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Sunday, March 11, 2018

A cuck's call for civility

Because civility is more important than winning. And as we all know, for the cuckservative, it's not whether you win or lose that truly matters, but whether you successfully managed to avoid being called racist:
Maintaining an even temperament and avoiding overstatement and invective can improve our political discourse.

On the right, online pugilists mock more mainstream or “establishment” conservatives as unwilling to do what it takes to win. They mock conservatives who refuse to make Trump-style attacks and decry Trump-style rhetoric as obsessed with “muh principles.” In the face of a ferocious Left, we just don’t have what it takes — or, as Milo Yiannopoulos said earlier this week in a long piece calling me “the most reliably frustrating person in conservative media,” we’re more prepared to “lose gracefully” than to “be seen as lacking in manners.”

First, let’s acknowledge that there’s more than a kernel of truth in these critiques. Civility isn’t always a virtue. There are times when injustice demands a dramatic response. The modern image of Jesus Christ as essentially the nicest person who ever lived is laughably one-dimensional. He compared the Pharisees to “whitewashed tombs.” Jesus cleansed the Temple “with a whip made out of cords.” He modeled grace and compassion. He also modeled righteous anger.

Moreover, it’s also true that calls for civility are often one-sided, manipulative, and made in bad faith. It turns out that each ideological tribe is often quite tolerant of the vicious voices on its own side and positively repulsed by anger in response. You see the double standard all the time. The same people who lament the angry voices on Fox News or talk radio will positively thrill to the latest Michael Moore documentary or make excuses for Democratic leaders who just can’t quite bring themselves to condemn Louis Farrakhan.
There is no improving our political discourse. We're currently in a cold intra-imperial war. Call an enemy an enemy, a traitor a traitor, and a cuck a cuck. Don't worry about civility or mainstream approval, concern yourself with speaking the truth, or at the very least, speaking in a corceptive manner that leads the listener to the truth.

David French is doing the opposite here. He is communicating in a deceptive manner. Because, while it is technically true that civility is not surrender, civility is one of the weapons used to help encourage and impose surrender on the right.

Everything the Left does is in bad faith. How could it not be, when they serve the Father of Lies? One absolutely must assume bad faith on their part in all circumstances, based on the evidence of their behavior over the last 100 years.

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88 Comments:

Blogger S1AL March 11, 2018 11:59 AM  

The Right should have realized they were genuinely evil after the legalization of abortion. We didn't need any more evidence. Throw in the Communism and, well...

Blogger TM Lutas March 11, 2018 12:07 PM  

I would love to read how this is to be reconciled with a legitimate, honest, real christian interpretation of Luke 15.

Blogger James Dixon March 11, 2018 12:09 PM  

> One absolutely must assume bad faith on their part in all circumstances, based on the evidence of their behavior over the last 100 years.

Whether or not the left was acting in bad faith 100 years ago (I lack the ability to look into the hearts of men long dead), there is no question but that they are now. They do not deserve any benefit of a doubt.

Blogger James Dixon March 11, 2018 12:11 PM  

> I would love to read how this is to be reconciled with a legitimate, honest, real christian interpretation of Luke 15.

These are neither lost sheep nor our sons/brothers. They're enemies. Wolves in sheep's clothing.

Blogger tuberman March 11, 2018 12:20 PM  

David French, I assume bad faith from you, up to and including, David is a Traitor, and should be dealt with as such.

Blogger TM Lutas March 11, 2018 12:20 PM  

@4 In that case, we would not be in a "cold", "civil" war. Your interpretation doesn't hang together internally with what VD wrote. A cold war might be possible, if you squint enough, but civil war implies a shared polity that might break apart. Civil wars are always brother fighting brother.

Blogger Cecil Henry March 11, 2018 12:24 PM  

Cucks like this want the best seat on the Titanic.

As long as they can be seen.

Apres moi, le deluge.

Blogger tuberman March 11, 2018 12:24 PM  

Since the mid-1950's there has been no reason to assume anything but evil from the Left running things, also the Nazis. Hitler's grandparent (one of them it turns out) was a Rothschild. Surprised? I am not.

Blogger James Dixon March 11, 2018 12:24 PM  

> Civil wars are always brother fighting brother.

Not always. Was the dissolution of Czechoslovakia a civil war or not?

Blogger VD March 11, 2018 12:24 PM  

In that case, we would not be in a "cold", "civil" war.

Good point. I have corrected the original post. We are in a cold intra-imperial war.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 11, 2018 12:30 PM  

A conservative's work of keeping anyone from challenging the Left on the moral plane of conflict is never over, David French is a hard working man.

Blogger Jack Amok March 11, 2018 12:32 PM  

In that case, we would not be in a "cold", "civil" war. Your interpretation doesn't hang together internally with what VD wrote.

The lost son admitted his sins and asked for forgiveness, and was willing to be accepted back as a mere servant. When the looney left does that, we can talk Luke. Until then, no dice.

Blogger Truth teller March 11, 2018 12:36 PM  

"The modern image of Jesus Christ as essentially the nicest person who ever lived is laughably one-dimensional. He compared the Pharisees to “whitewashed tombs.” Jesus cleansed the Temple “with a whip made out of cords.” He modeled grace and compassion. He also modeled righteous anger."

Is that all you got? You haven't seen nothing yet, wait till you see what Christ does to the globalist's armies in the Valley Of Megiddo, blood to the horses bridles. Does that disturb your Churchian sensibilities?

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira March 11, 2018 12:40 PM  

The fact that they act in bad faith so often almost makes them pitiable, it's like watching an addict.

Blogger Jack Ward March 11, 2018 12:41 PM  

OT. A request. I would pay some good money for a detailed guide on how to establish your own platform. One that insulates you from as many of the dangers of de-platforming as possible. Maybe someone has already done it. A link, then. Your very own internet gateway? I have no idea, thus the request.
And, apologies for the OT.

Blogger Quilp March 11, 2018 12:44 PM  

"The same people who lament the angry voices on Fox News or talk radio will positively thrill to the latest Michael Moore documentary or make excuses for Democratic leaders who just can’t quite bring themselves to condemn Louis Farrakhan."

I don't know anyone, besides David French & Pals, who are still lamenting anger. Anger on the right is useful, if channeled correctly, and anger on the left is something perhaps to be mocked from time to time, especially on outrage venues like twitter. I honestly don't know anyone on the right who cares the Bill Maher, Roger Moore, Joy Reid, or anyone else appears angry and uncivil.

The money Quote from French, for me, is this: :
"Read the best, and you’ll not only learn, you’ll also find that your fellow citizens — people who also see through a glass darkly — often share many of your core values and seek the public good with equal (or often superior) diligence." I find that to patently false. Worse, it's delusional, & harmful in that it plays into the one of the left's favorite tropes- "Our Values", Whatever version of Judeo- ______ they happen to be this week.

Blogger The Observer March 11, 2018 12:49 PM  

> One absolutely must assume bad faith on their part in all circumstances, based on the evidence of their behavior over the last 100 years.

Whether or not the left was acting in bad faith 100 years ago (I lack the ability to look into the hearts of men long dead), there is no question but that they are now. They do not deserve any benefit of a doubt.


100 years? Try after the slaughter of the Vendee, if one's going for within the last 300 years.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 11, 2018 12:57 PM  

"One absolutely must assume bad faith on their part in all circumstances, based on the evidence of their behavior over the last 100 years."

You don't even have to be smart, just go with your gut. If your gut tells you someone's speaking fluent wormtonguese, nineteen times out of twenty it's because they're actually a satanic serpent in a human-fleshcloak.

Blogger Felix Bellator March 11, 2018 1:05 PM  

@13 Truth teller - Amen.

@18 Azure Amaranthine - speaking of satanic serpents in a human-fleshcloak, I give you Noah Rothman. I am assuming bad faith and lack of purity in all his generations....

Blogger Hammerli280 March 11, 2018 1:05 PM  

@9 James Dixon: The breakup of Czechoslovakia was a peaceful, civil separation. It was always a synthetic country stuck together from parts of the old Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Blogger Skyler the Weird March 11, 2018 1:11 PM  

He believes himself Cicero opposing Caesar. He doesn't expect Caesar who is quite reasonable to be replaced by Antony and Octavian. He expects a return to the Old Cuck Order.

Blogger Matt March 11, 2018 1:25 PM  

So here's the deal with the moral high ground: we are not permitted to actually sin for the greater good. Can't cheat on my wife even if it helps my ideology, can't bear false witness in court, can't blaspheme God, can't break into houses and steal stuff, etc.

But niceness is neither a Christian virtue nor a universal good idea. When the time comes to fight, fight. Unilateral disarmament is a fool's errand.

Anonymous Anonymous March 11, 2018 1:29 PM  

"One of the earliest and arguably most historically significant North American colonies was Plymouth Colony, founded in 1620 in what is now known as Plymouth, Massachusetts. ... the original colony had written into its charter a system of communal property and labor. ..."

We have known since the 1620s that socialism does not work and will starve the people. Yet, the left continues to push socialism both economic and social. (as if there is any real difference)

And if our own experiment at Phymouth was not enough, the USSR was kind enough to demonstrate the futility of socialism for all to see yet again.

So, yes, the left has been evil for a long, long time. Thomas Sowell said that slavery never broke the back of the black family but that welfare did. Everyone on the left knew that was coming. The left knows it is preaching evil.

One more time; the left knows it is preaching evil.

Blogger tuberman March 11, 2018 1:29 PM  

12. Jack Amok

Some will, and perhaps many, but quite a few, as you know, will be too far gone. Just look at the insanity that they've accepted at this point. And, many have shared the guilt, by projecting their own faults. If you share the evil to enough of an extent, there is no way back.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 11, 2018 1:36 PM  

"the left knows it is preaching evil."

Some do, but I doubt they are consciously aware of the magnitude. Sowing deception has a way of leaving you uniquely prone to being deceived. Prone isn't imperative enough of a word though...

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 11, 2018 1:55 PM  

I see people still claiming that our enemies are well intentioned. How can you think that anyone who works in the abortion industry or supports it can be well intentioned in anything ?

Blogger Lovekraft March 11, 2018 1:57 PM  

Dhimmi is the term for him.

Worries about whether the drapes are straight while the mob gathers outside.

Blogger Dirtnapninja March 11, 2018 1:58 PM  

"civility"

The battlecry of controlled opposition

Blogger pyrrhus March 11, 2018 2:00 PM  

French's piece reads like a parody...Next he'll be adopting African children and virtue signaling....Oh wait..

Blogger Durandel March 11, 2018 2:00 PM  

The Virtues of our Christian fathers vs. the Churchian Cukservatives:

Christian Virtue Churchian Virtue
Faith Moderation
Hope Naivete
Love/Charity Tolerance
Prudence Fear
Temperance Acceptance
Justice Surrender
Courage Civility

Blogger pyrrhus March 11, 2018 2:02 PM  

@28 "Battlecry" sounds awfully uncivil and aggressive....

Blogger pyrrhus March 11, 2018 2:04 PM  

@27 Worries about whether the drapes are straight while the mob gathers outside.

Makes sure the tea service is properly laid for visitors...

Blogger Weouro March 11, 2018 2:11 PM  

Someone that stylistically limp is absolutely defeated.

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 11, 2018 2:12 PM  

When people are promoting something as more important than winning in a civilization war, they're telling you that their stakes are a bit different from yours.

Blogger James Dixon March 11, 2018 2:19 PM  

> The breakup of Czechoslovakia was a peaceful, civil separation.

You are correct. I was misremembering. I was probably associating it with Bosnia.

Blogger RobertT March 11, 2018 2:22 PM  

This is the last chance to right the ship. Vox is right. Go for the jugular. If we don't win this time, we'll probably not get another chance. I do not remember this split when I was growing up. Although even then people were definite Democrats or Republicans and didn't mind being identified that way. It was definitely there in the 90s when I ran for Congress. And I don't see many converts. I've never seen many converts. I can't think of a single person who used to be a lib and is a conservative today. My guess is there are more converts to Christianity than there are to right wing politics. I don't think you can convert people either direction. You're either wired left or you're wired right. Trump did not win by converting people, he won by dangling a carrot and threatening a stick from the other party. The entire election may have come down the the coal miners, who are traditionally unionized labor. The other side will figure that out, and if they can manage the discipline it takes, we'll have a bloody war on our hands. When that happens, unless we can figure out another carrot & stick, we'll lose. The majority, even in the Republican Party, is left.

Blogger tz March 11, 2018 2:25 PM  

It is war. A cultural war.
David French is Tokyo Rose.
Or perhaps David French should be called David Vichy.

Civility is something we have between reasonable people having a discussion to determine truth.

But the failure is more profound. The screaming toddlers who throw tantrums, trophy awards, triggering and safe spaces are all from the utter failure of the society - culture - to teach politeness and manners.

Thank you National Review for going full Vichy and creating a generation or two of spoiled brats who know nothing of politness or manners much less civility.

The Cuckservatives are reaping the whirlwind they have sewn.

The only difference is Generation Zyklon is rebelling against the socialist - progressive prison and is generally uncivil toward them while when talking within the alt-right they seem to have no trouble with handling reason, logic, discussion, and wish to discuss (argue not in the quarrel sense) and learn. Which I can say is not true either of the libs or the cucks.

Blogger James Dixon March 11, 2018 2:25 PM  

> The entire election may have come down the the coal miners, who are traditionally unionized labor.

Not just the coal miners, but the unionized workers as a whole who have been betrayed by NAFTA and the free traders of the world. The old Reagan voting base.

Blogger tz March 11, 2018 2:27 PM  

I put that badly - Civility is part of OUR culture, and not any others. We shouldn't fight barbarian people armed with spears by getting rid of our guns just to make it more "civil".

Civilized people can handle guns and even more destructive weapons.

Blogger tz March 11, 2018 2:28 PM  

Coal miners v.s. Coal burners?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 11, 2018 2:28 PM  

Civil wars are always brother fighting brother.

By definition, a civil war is citizen fighting citizen, not brother vs brother. In an Imperium, a fellow citizen is often not a even fellow national, let alone a brother.

Blogger Lovekraft March 11, 2018 2:29 PM  

@36 RobertT:

what I've observed is how fast the traditional conservatives have been exposed and are lumped in with the left. The McConnells and Ryans have been reduced to obstructionists.

It's either Trump's nationism, or Harris-style Hard Left. The moderates and so-called traditional liberals are irrelevant neutrals.

Blogger tz March 11, 2018 2:38 PM  

Dear David Vichy,
You yourself need to put the most positive construction on those who are providing the most merciless mocking memes aimed toward you. They don't have a multi-decade long history of betrayal, smiling then reversing, being uncivil to the point of violence, or watch the pussy-mad-cap "Women's march", and I dare you to play it in front of your or related children.

We are to forgive seventy-times-seven. We aren't to be stupid or patsies more than once or twice - and first you ask direct in private, then bring a witness you both respect, then the church, then you treat them with contempt.

Precisely when will you treat Schumer, Pelosi, or Maxine Waters with the same contempt you reserve for Trump - who is actually keeping his promises.

--

Side note: the best description comes from David Freedman (Milton's son) who noted in Libertarian circles, Heretics were treated worse than Pagans.

You cannot convert someone to Christianity at gunpoint.
You CAN fix the problem with someone who is an Anti-Christ in your midst using guns.

They can't "live" "here". But I don't say they must go back, because it is only the juxtaposition of the two words that is the problem. Although it is a grave matter, there is the "Final Solution".

Blogger tuberman March 11, 2018 2:39 PM  

I would call this the War against the Globalist Manipulators, and they are anti-nationalists, and anti-all civilizations except for their own, which is not civilized..

Blogger Felix Bellator March 11, 2018 2:41 PM  

Bill Kristol, oh so civil. Along with his commenters. Ugh.

Blogger seeingsights March 11, 2018 3:00 PM  

Concerning civility: I consider it solely as a tactic. In some cases, civility is the way to go. For example, debating someone in front of an undecided audience. The person acting like a loon will not find favor with such an audience.
On the other hand, being uncivil can be effective rhetoric.

Blogger Jay March 11, 2018 3:04 PM  

French does not sound at all concerned about politics, about competing for power. He talks as if debate were a purely aesthetic issue, about the need for "perspective and proportion," how "grace is a virtue". He laments comparing university activists to al-quaeda as "offensive".

He thinks he can dialectic his way out of the liberal cultural onslaught. Like VD has said this "convservatism" is nothing but a pose, a posture. They are completely uninterested in fighting for anything and they refuse to really engage in the battle for public opinion, which requires effective rhetoric.

"Any informed conservative is reluctant to condense profound and intricate intellectual systems to a few pretentious phrases; he prefers to leave that technique to the enthusiasm of radicals" -Russell Kirk

Blogger Nate March 11, 2018 3:12 PM  

"Maintaining an even temperament and avoiding overstatement and invective can improve our political discourse."

no doubt the moderate would have given the same advice to Jesus for speaking to harshly to the religious leaders of the day.

Blogger Nate March 11, 2018 3:18 PM  

at the peak of our civilization... senators shot each other over disputes... and congressmen literally beat each other with canes in the capital building.

We act like 'small hands' is a new low for American politics... yet Thomas Jefferson called a political opponent a hermaphrodite in a campaign speech.

its never about civility. its always about capitulation.

Blogger weka March 11, 2018 3:24 PM  

Christ once called Peter Satan. Hang around. My taniwha is hungry, and trolls are so crunchy.

Blogger Demonic Professor El March 11, 2018 3:24 PM  

"Everything the Left does is in bad faith."

Precisely.

And besides, what part of "Culture WAR" do they fail to understand? I mean, it wasn't "World Debate II." Maybe the Romans misunderstood Hannibal's invasion. It wasn't the Punic War at all, it was the Punic Discussion.

I like how Jordan Peterson put it - those who hide behind the veil of "morality" and civility when attacked are cowards.

Blogger Demonic Professor El March 11, 2018 3:28 PM  

seeingsights wrote:Concerning civility: I consider it solely as a tactic. In some cases, civility is the way to go. For example, debating someone in front of an undecided audience. The person acting like a loon will not find favor with such an audience.

On the other hand, being uncivil can be effective rhetoric.


This isn't a bad tactic, especially when exposing how lunatic or malicious the Left (Islam, etc.) really is. The naive or the fencers, if you will.

Calling a Leftist a hypocrite won't get the Lefty to change, but it might be the sugar on the red pill someone else needs. Lefties know they're hypocrites, it's merely a tool in their arsenal.

Blogger Demonic Professor El March 11, 2018 3:29 PM  

Er, above should read "For the naive or the on-the-fencers."

Blogger FP March 11, 2018 4:16 PM  

"I’m deeply opposed to campus intolerance, but to mention university activists in the same context as al-Qaeda was silly and offensive, and it undermined my credibility."

Why yes Mr. French, at least al-Qaeda is open about their goals. The activists here all promised that there was no slippery slope with gay marriage and yet now we're forcing bakers to make cakes and calling people transgenderphobes if they won't date the caitlin jenners of the world.

Perhaps the time for civility has ended Ms. RickyBobby (the Night Elf priestess) when your opponent claims you have no agency over your sexuality but they of course do over their 57 genders. Because reasons.

Go dance on mailboxes for your thirty pieces of gold in front of the goldshire inn, I'm off to warsong gulch to kill the horde.

(For amusement search for Mr. French and warcraft on endgaget)

Blogger Tank March 11, 2018 4:35 PM  

This is what Ann Althouse, who is not alt-right, or even right, has rightly labeled civility bullshit. Civility as a weapon.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 11, 2018 4:41 PM  

"Was the dissolution of Czechoslovakia a civil war or not?"

Czechoslovakia was never a country. It was a creation of the Treaty of Versaille, in which the Czechs and the Slovaks were put together in a sham marriage.

Neither wanted it.

The artificial common law marriage dissolved as peacefully and harmlessly as it was created.

Blogger TM Lutas March 11, 2018 4:47 PM  

@9 the dissolution of Czechoslovakia on 1/1/1993 was not pursuant to any sort of war, civil or otherwise so no, not a civil war. I don't think it was even a cold civil war.

@10 Thanks for the recognition

@12 If the door's open to reconciliation upon repentance that's consistent with Luke and I agree it's sound christian theology. I don't think your construction is consistent with what VD wrote.

@15 If you want your own platform, Get actual IP addresses assigned to you permanently (alas, probably impossible for IPv4 but there are plenty of IPv6 ones available) and have enough technical chops to build out a link that other people use and would find very inconvenient to route around. Attach your service to that line. Own your own community, in the sense that you keep a list of the contact methods to get in touch with your people. Finally, try not to commit felonies that are malum in se, things like running assassin for hire match services and producing kiddie porn that you host. Nothing's going to stop your deplatforming if you're killing people and/or destroying lives.

@23 the left has become highly adept at giving itself amnesia. My son went to private school for a year. He graduated from that tiny school and every kid gave a speech (all 12 of them so it was bearable). He was the only one to reference the past in any way, shape, or form. Academically it was a good school, probably best in area that we could afford but they were growing a generation unanchored from the past.

@48 We can learn from the prisoner's dilemma games out there. Generous Tit for Tat seems to be the current reigning strategy:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerkay/2011/12/19/generous-tit-for-tat-a-winning-strategy/

As for Jesus, I think His preferred strategies are well documented and worth studying. Don't cherry pick though to fit your prejudice. You won't have as good a result.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 11, 2018 4:53 PM  

@25

"Sowing deception has a way of leaving you uniquely prone to being deceived."

As the con-man says, "you can't con an honest person." The con-man eases his conscious in that every single con-job out there relies on the fact that the mark is attempting to get some money which he (the mark) knows he has no right to. The conman RELIES on that, because the mark isn't going to to go the police and claim, "I got ripped off trying to get money which wasn't mine!"

Blogger Beau March 11, 2018 6:13 PM  

As for Jesus, I think His preferred strategies are well documented and worth studying.

Beyond reading about and studying, he prefers we perform them.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 11, 2018 6:30 PM  

The Old Papa conservative cuckolds are part of the problem they simply enable and ultimately legitimize the hysteria of the left.

IMO if we don't get a handle on discrediting and disqualifying this hysteria then we are up Fecal Creek.

Blogger Felix Bellator March 11, 2018 6:33 PM  

Be civil to the beastialists (SFW, but not for sanity). and the advocates of tentacle porn. What sorts of sexually transmitted diseases will be get out of these deviants?

Blogger Kudos The Lexecutioner March 11, 2018 6:33 PM  

@2 TM Lutas

How about reconciled with Matthew 10:36?

"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household."

Blogger Kudos The Lexecutioner March 11, 2018 6:36 PM  

@52 Demonic Professor El

The red pill is not too uncomfortable when it's swallowed. When it's forcibly taken as a suppository, it's a different story.

Blogger James Dixon March 11, 2018 6:37 PM  

> Coal miners v.s. Coal burners?

A bit harshly stated for French's taste perhaps, but I'd have trouble arguing against it.

> In an Imperium, a fellow citizen is often not a even fellow national, let alone a brother.

Exactly.

Blogger James Dixon March 11, 2018 6:55 PM  

OT, but since I doubt either Bucknell or WVU will make the final four, much less both, it looks like no bet this year Vox. :(

Blogger DonReynolds March 11, 2018 7:17 PM  

Conflicts between gentlemen COULD be conducted according to reasonable limits or rules, perhaps even the Marquis de Queensberry rules or the International Laws of Land Warfare.

Fortunately or unfortunately, the only gentlemen these days are spectators and there are no impartial referees or umpires to met out penalties for infractions of the rules.

I am no gentleman and I am opposed by no gentlemen. It is dog eat dog. No prisoners taken. No quarter given or asked for. No surrender. There are no rules other than survival itself and if your ideology assumes civility on one or more sides, then you will be swept into the bleachers to cheer and watch the event. You will not be one of the players. Survival is a rough game and there are no winners or trophies. If you survive, it is because others did not.

Blogger Zaklog the Great March 11, 2018 7:21 PM  

@22 Matt

Good is not nice. Absolutely. And we were never called to be "nice".

https://youtu.be/8Q-H2WE-faU

Blogger Jack Amok March 11, 2018 7:24 PM  

I don't think your construction is consistent with what VD wrote.

It's apples and pine cones, Lutas. The Left has not repented, not admitted their sins, not asked for forgiveness and not shown a willingness to even be an equal, let a lone a servant.

Luke 15 is only applies after that happens. Trying to make any comparison of what's happening now to that is just looking for a reason to cuck.

They surrender - if they're capable - then we can accept them back. Until then, stop trying to excuse their actions.

Blogger bw March 11, 2018 7:27 PM  

Eschewing the Rock of Offense.

No understanding or concern whatsoever of Who or What that is in Western Civ.

Blogger jandolin March 11, 2018 7:30 PM  

This from a man, who along with his colleagues at National Cuckview, used the most vituperative language against Trump during his campaign. In fact he and his repugnant colleagues devoted a whole issue of National cuckview railing against Trump. French gets paid to help his neocon masters to police the American right.

Blogger LP999-16 March 11, 2018 7:31 PM  

Wow, that is some serious mental gymnastics here French. Cucked.

Many people today do not care, are unfazed to even embracing the lies said about them; sexist, racist, homophobe, deporable, etc.

Today survival and bills to offline existences are more important than the Oscars, tech toys, local or national news corps raving about topics that simply are not important or exist in the realm of reality.

Calling people names is not an argument its like an observation in many cases meaning it can be interpreted as mere words but often a correct judgement call.

Perhaps an unintended consequences of social media is particularly how overly sensitive the left is to even how the right bears a callous colder zero fricks given tell the truth attitude. (ZFG is something I read from Chateau Heartsite.)

Blogger Phillip George March 11, 2018 7:43 PM  

best Q summary so far.
best connect all the dots summary of satanism in governments, Obama, Islam, the real war

http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2018/03/latest-q-posts-927-944-with-commentary-2588014.html

Blogger TM Lutas March 11, 2018 8:04 PM  

@59 There's quite a lot of people crying out Lord, Lord who don't actually follow Jesus. The existence of the phenomenon is a minor theme of the blog as I understand it. Performance is ultimately the point but following a different god while claiming to follow Jesus is one of the more subtle traps out there for the inattentive.

@62 I have no objection to you pursuing your question so long as you admit the legitimacy of pursuing mine.

As for your citation, I'd spread it out a bit for better context, say Matthew 10:32-42. Yes, our enemies will sometimes be within our very households and for the enemy, combat and the sword when necessary. That's not the whole teaching though. What follows is just as important, that actual behavior matters, not ideological or tribal affiliation. The implicit ability to turn about, repent, and cease to be an enemy is in that chapter as well. If anyone gives us a cup of water, they are due their reward.

Enemy categorization is clearly about enemy behavior and behavior is always subject to revision and repentance.

@68 the right is filled with people who can truthfully say "I used to be on the Left and then I grew up" and who thereafter live that out in their actual lives and their writings and speech. The Left as a movement has not repented of its insanity but plenty of members of that group have. It's the lack of discernment and recognition that sometimes people do actually change that is the heart of my objection. In my opinion, it's strategically a loser move to refuse converts. They're there.

Blogger LP999-16 March 11, 2018 8:09 PM  

Blue Ribbon panels are losers! Mueller is crook heretic!

"Stop funding sanctuary cities that are killing Americans!" Kate Steinle was mentioned, "no more visa lottery no chain blocking." The heretics will not do not their job, "democrats will not approve over 200 positions, they obstruct, delay they have no ideas."

"The failing NYT's, the crowd chants, Build the Wall!"

POTUS in Moon township PA nearby PittB, 40 mins from where I am in WV. My friends whom live in WV bordering OH, PA, WV, etc., RustAppalachia bought the tix FAST them up!! Tix were sold out fast!

Anyhow friends are reporting via skype what a fun delightful time, how wonderful it was so much fun, so much winning, democrats in serious serious trouble.

https://www.periscope.tv/Cernovich/1mnxeXwqrnrJX

Blogger LP999-16 March 11, 2018 8:11 PM  

73 Let those people go, they are on their own journeys to God.

Blogger Phelps March 11, 2018 8:32 PM  

Civility in the face of barbarism is the definition of surrender.

Blogger mushroom March 11, 2018 8:35 PM  

Re: Anger. When these cuckers like French are running interference for pedophiles, abortionists, anti-Christ one-worlders, jihadists, rape gangs, and assorted perverts, I say, anger is an obligation.

Blogger Beau March 11, 2018 9:31 PM  

Performance is ultimately the point ...

So go do it.

Blogger Jack Amok March 11, 2018 11:36 PM  

In my opinion, it's strategically a loser move to refuse converts.

Converts are being refused? No, you're just making shit up now.

David French isn't a convert. He's nominally on the Right already, though he spends the bulk of his time attacking his own side for being insufficiently servile and accomodating to the Left.

Kinda like you.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch March 11, 2018 11:52 PM  

Vox, this is one of your most important posts. I intend to repeat it/paraphrase it for my audience, so is unfamiliar with your work. It is important that as many people on our side as possible understand what you are saying on this issue.

Blogger Crew March 11, 2018 11:58 PM  

Meanwhile, some see Trump's tariff action as preparing for a war:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-11/lawrence-solomon-real-reason-trumps-steel-tariffs-hes-preparing-war

I tend to agree, although I wonder if it is one the Globalists are fomenting in order to teach white America a lesson.

Anonymous Anonymous March 12, 2018 1:28 AM  

When National(!) Review hires back all the Nationalist thinkets it fired and publically apologizes with at least as much gusto as it's Against Trump I may be consider listening to Mr. French.

The American people do not do Charlie Brown to Lucy's football. It's about time Charlie kicked Lucy's ass.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 12, 2018 4:19 AM  

How the hell does Vichy Review even exist anymore? They have to be getting serious funding from somewhere other than the readership.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 12, 2018 4:30 AM  

I almost forget those people exist until I click on something like that.
At this point they are so despicable, there's not much I'd have a problem with when it comes to shutting them up.
To be so stupid as to think 08-16 was a good era for America.
They are just intrinsically different people. Maybe the Spartans were right to expose them as infants. We would certainly be right to stop being "civil" with them.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 12, 2018 4:37 AM  

That's true. That's a reminder that should be broadcast wide from time to time.
I almost made the "we're in a new era and need to adapt to their newfound savagery" argument, until I read your comment.

Maybe the big difference isn't in the left being civil or uncivil, but actually between the old and new right wing, e.g. Lindsay Graham and Preston Brooks. Brooks would probably have little problem overcoming the left's incivility today.

Blogger James Dixon March 12, 2018 6:07 AM  

> I tend to agree, although I wonder if it is one the Globalists are fomenting in order to teach white America a lesson.

That's entirely possible. But I doubt the GE will be fighting for their side if so.

> We would certainly be right to stop being "civil" with them.

When they say that my community and those like it "deserve to die", I have no problem being uncivil.

Blogger jandolin March 12, 2018 6:27 AM  

The call for civility by neocon a__holes is rich considering their history of destroying the careers of ideological opponents like Mel Bradford and Samuel Francis.

Blogger Sherwood family March 12, 2018 6:54 AM  

I am losing the will to even try with these people anymore. If they spent half as much energy engaging the enemy instead of trying to shame their own side we'd have won the culture war by now and eliminated the filth that they've allowed to be perpetrated against our people.

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