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Saturday, March 03, 2018

The emotional continence of little girls

If you ever wonder why I'm still around while the various bloggers of yesteryears past have mostly gone by the wayside over time, this shrieking overreaction by the Z-Man to the God-Emperor's latest apparent blunder should serve as a reasonable explanation.
This jackass has undone generations of hard work by the very people who put him in office. Not even that feckless nitwit George Bush did something this egregiously stupid. Even Barak Obama was unwilling to go this far. This idiocy is right up there with Poppy Bush breaking his tax promise in order to get the Democrats in Washington to like him. It worked. They loved him, which was why he was a one term president. Trump is now setting himself up to follow Bush into the void of stupidity.

Now, the counter argument you will hear is that Trump is just playing more 4-D chess and this will amount to nothing. Well, a smart politicians would know enough to not do that with this issue. This is not a parlor game. The pro-gun voter has no sense of humor on this stuff and they have zero tolerance for limp-wristed politicians too afraid of the girls to do the right thing. Speaking only for myself, I’d vote for a gay black Muslim over Trump right now. That’s right. I’d vote for Obama over Trump, just to send the 2A message.

I think everyone who voted for Trump understood they were getting a guy who would be long on bullshit and short of tangible accomplishments. The point of voting for him was to send a message, but also legitimize populist issues. Trump was the guy who would flip over the tables and discredit the status quo, opening the door for ambitious politicians to run on patriotic issues like immigration reform. Trump would build his wall, end some of the egregious immigration abuses, but the real work would be up to those who come next.

So far, Trump is looking like he is not going to deliver anything other than blowing his own horn every day and maybe dodging prison in the Mueller probe. Worse yet, the trade-off for his vanity will be the undermining of the one cause that truly defines what’s left of old stock America. By legitimizing gun-grabbing and executive fiat, he has just made it possible for the next President Obama to DACA the gun issue, by issuing new gun laws via executive order. Trump is proving to be one step forward and ten steps backward.

The one lesson of the Trump era is to not put too much stock in what Trump says. He is, after all, a bullshitter. He’s also a guy who will wheel on a dime if he senses he is on the wrong side. He is rather shameless in that regard. Still, the damage he has done to the cause of gun rights is incalculable and it will not be forgotten. Unless he eventually signs off on some bold pro-gun laws, lots of his voters will choose to spend the election day at the range come 2020, rather than cast a vote for a duplicitous gun grabber.
And Trump can never break 35 percent, never win the nomination, blah freaking blah. Didn't we literally just go through this with DACA and the Dreamers? Do the shrieking little girls of the Right never learn that politicians sometimes say things that are not true?

Now, I don't like Trump's response to the post-Parkland media campaign either. And I can assure you that the response that I recommend would have been considerably more forthright than anything I've seen the Z-man or anyone else advise, which is apparently to do nothing and trust the states.

On an issue like guns, doing nothing is usually the best course. Most states are sensible on guns, so letting the states handle it is good for us.

Not necessarily. In any event, this is what I would advise instead of doing nothing and trusting the states to be sensible.
  1. Arrest Dan Israel, take Nikolas Cruz into custody, stop the demolition of the school, and order an investigation into the Broward County Sheriff's Office, the Secret Service, and every other federal, state, local agency that had any contact with that school in the last six months. Then publish the results of the investigation and have the DOJ prosecute the various guilty parties.
  2. Criminalize the public advocacy of gun control, using the anti-BDS template. Any television or radio station advocating gun control would lose its broadcasting license. Any corporation advocating gun control would lose its federal contracts.
  3. Announce mandatory carry reciprocity between states on pain of losing federal highway funds.
  4. Stop all federal funding to all universities, colleges, and schools that ban guns on campus.
  5. Announce an executive order suspending all state and local gun control laws.
So, let's not pretend that I'm not as hard core and absolutist about gun rights as anyone else. That being said, John Derbyshire is right. Who else do we have besides Trump? There is no point in taking your ball and going home, because unless you are actually going to go out and take action to shut down the gun control advocates by yourself, the God-Emperor is literally all we have on the political front.

I'm not saying that we should support him in even speaking soothing words to the insane people who want to kill him and impose a violent dictatorship on a disarmed American people. I'm not saying that I think his actions are wise, well-advised, or even sensible. I'm not saying that one shouldn't feel discouraged, annoyed, or even angry about what looks very much like a foolish and unnecessarily damaging political blunder.

But I am saying that it accomplishes nothing to throw a tantrum and very publicly withdraw your support from the God-Emperor, especially when we all know that you're going to be slinking back and hoping that no one notices when you try to quietly clamber back aboard the Trump Train rather than be left behind with Ben Shapiro, Bill Kristol, Mona Charen, Rick Wilson, and all the rest of the Never-Trump losers.

At the very least, wait until Trump actually does something rather than merely makes another of his self-contradictory public statements before you reach any firm conclusions about his actual intentions or the probable consequences.

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122 Comments:

Blogger Derek Kite March 03, 2018 1:04 PM  

Trump has pretty well guaranteed that the 2018 election will be about gun control. The Democrat base will be forcing their candidates to take strong positions.

I fail to see a downside.

Blogger Justin Bailey March 03, 2018 1:07 PM  

Trump may very well be the last chance for non violent solutions to many issues. On the other hand, forced demographic change will also force violence regardless, and it will happen sooner rather than later.

Blogger Lovekraft March 03, 2018 1:16 PM  

I have only one word for someone who would elect an Obama over a Trump:

ubergay

Blogger Hammerli280 March 03, 2018 1:17 PM  

Vox, I like your plan. It's high time that the gun grabbers got a good dose of Federal civil rights law...specifically, 18 USC Section 241. Ten year sentence for that one, unless someone gets killed.

Then the offense is capital.

Blogger Jack Ward March 03, 2018 1:21 PM  

I must stand with and for President Trump. For now, and until he makes that stand untenable.

Blogger Looking Glass March 03, 2018 1:23 PM  

"Prediction: no one thinks Trump can be Machiavellian, so this is the chance to use it properly. He's pushing some DACA resolution because it'll crush the GOPe. Rather than feeding the GOPe the poison pill, he's holding their head back and shoving it in."

I wrote that 6 months ago. Trump has played DACA perfectly. And, by perfectly, I mean to his objectives. It's looked ugly all around, but that's just part of the process.

The comments at the working meeting we're "eh". Trump was still working to harmonize a response & see where things stand. You can see he took to Twitter the next day to defend the 2nd Amendment. Trump is currently in the process of aligning the biggest macroeconomic changes in 50 years and this event cropped up. He'll flail around until he has figured out the contexts for all of the actual details. (Not the ones everyone says.)

If people haven't picked up on this, don't claim to be an observer of Trump, as you aren't paying attention. 6 months ago, sure. DACA was the first big test and it's dead in a bit over 48 hours with no bill even written to do anything about it.

The trap was set for the NRA. See David Hines' discussion of it in an activism/war context. They had a lot of pre-planning for when Parkland happened. You always get caught when an enemy springs a well-planned offensive. Regroup, reorient and work the issue. What a concept.

In the deeply hilarious department, so the "Gaming Press" has spent years talking up Games => Violence imagined connection. It's been the go-to point for CNN for well over a decade, yet the instant Trump brings it up, the "Gaming Press" go ballistic. That, right there, is just damn funny.

Blogger Shimshon March 03, 2018 1:29 PM  

Z Man just wants to be Margaret Thatcher to Trump's wobbly George HW Bush. Of course, Maggie did stand by Bush. Z stands by his man Obama.

Blogger Looking Glass March 03, 2018 1:29 PM  

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/81rm28/man_shoots_himself_outside_wh_geotus_is_safe/

Clearly, most of the Left wants gun control because they want to kill themselves.

Blogger Atlas March 03, 2018 1:36 PM  

If I may be so bold,

6. Any and all firearms, accessories, ammunition, and training are all tax exempt from all taxes, federal, state and local. This cannot be reviewed by any court whatsoever.

-- Atlas

Anonymous Anonymous March 03, 2018 1:36 PM  

VD

I'm glad you wrote this. I've been here long enough to know you were thinking something like this, but given the current climate, it's reassuring to hear it from you. We're listening to outragous shit where I am.

Blogger Matthew March 03, 2018 1:44 PM  

Looking Glass early favorite for 2018 MVP.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 03, 2018 1:46 PM  

I will admit I was pretty disheartened Wednesday. It all looked like it was going to hell. I hadn't yet really learned to trust the God-Emperor.
Now I can see the strategy.
The Left is actually and openly talking about gun confiscation, about jailing people for owning guns. They are openly and defiantly, (at least in Washington State) refusing to do anything in the schools to protect children, including not just allowing some teachers to be armed, but even funding school safety officers.
Trump said "tell us all what you really want", and they are. Frankly, it's amazing.

Blogger Shimshon March 03, 2018 1:49 PM  

Looking Glass, I've been following your comments of DACA and Trump's execution of it (in many senses of the word). Maybe the recent statements are careless mistakes, but given the track record, I don't think he was being careless or mistaken. It's hardly 3D or 4D chess when you are dealing with 1D opponents. If he gets the Dems to double down on making "sensible gun control" the linchpin of their 2018 campaigning, how could this not be an even more epic troll than DACA? So far, still not tired of winning.

As far as Vox's prescription, would that Trump do any one of them. I'm glad to see you coming around to seeing the benefit of speech bans. There is almost nothing more anti-American than advocating for gun control of any sort. And free speech in practice, even in America, is not anything close to absolutist, as I think you've pointed out. Anti-BDS laws, while distasteful, and certainly offensive, target the exact same people. Since there are efforts already in the pipeline (as opposed to nothing yet for your idea), it is something you might want to consider getting behind. Plus, their mere existence lend significant justification to your proposal. Israel-supporting gentiles, which far outnumber Israel-supporting (((fake Americans))), love them their guns probably more than they love Israel. But you gotta get people to be far less squeamish about regulating speech.

Blogger Keyser Soze March 03, 2018 1:50 PM  

The histrionics from Z are sad to see. Who else in this last 50 years has done more for America (I’m talking to you conservatives now!) than GE. Either a blunder or he is laying the groundwork to further embarrass the demorats. Still not tired of winning.
GE is the indispensable man, the man we have waited so long for....a little more time and maybe he defeats the Deep State/CIA and the wars can stop. I can dream and pray, as we all should.

Blogger Duh-ave March 03, 2018 1:54 PM  

I agree with this post but can't help but be entertained by the storm. The incontinence of the right is nothing compared to the left. When the capital lawn is filled with screaming gun nuts armed with torches, pitch forks, tar, feathers and maybe even rope the will cling to the arms of their freshly moistened sofas when president 'Bluto' Blutarsky Trump makes his stupid and futile gesture. Truly these are the best as well as the worst of times.

Blogger Zundfolge March 03, 2018 2:00 PM  

I'll be honest, Trump asking Difi to put the AWB into the gun bill has shaken my confidence in him a little bit. But I look back to the fist time Trump shook me by seeming to go along with amnesty and that hasn't turned out to be him turning traitor on us (and may have ended up killing the chance that even the 800k DACA brats will get amnesty which is a win AFAIC) so at this point I'm comfortable waiting and seeing what will come of this before I freak out.

So until he actually signs an AWB he's still got my support (keeping in mind that it will require a tremendous amount of GOPe/RINO cuckery ... possibly more than they're capable of, for it to actually get to his desk).

Blogger SemiSpook37 March 03, 2018 2:04 PM  

It's rope-a-dope. Pure and simple. Sure, I may not like the public side of it where it "looks" like Trump is capitulating to the establishment, but what keeps me from having a giant hissy fit (not that it's worth expending the energy to do so) is the fact that Trump isn't the usual idiot within the establishment.

I learned long ago that emotion is a horrible means to measure the effectiveness of any sort of policy measure.

Blogger D. March 03, 2018 2:04 PM  

I think Z was trolling. ymmv

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 03, 2018 2:13 PM  

"And Trump can never break 35 percent, never win the nomination, blah freaking blah. Didn't we literally just go through this with DACA and the Dreamers? Do the shrieking little girls of the Right never learn that politicians sometimes say things that are not true?"

I'm actually cheering them on. The more of them are oblivious to what's actually going on, the more the leftist leadership likely is too.

Yes, I'm using "our" perpetual infidels as canaries in the coal mines of leftist thought.

Blogger Hunsdon March 03, 2018 2:15 PM  

GE stabs us in the back? Again? Get back to me in two weeks, a month.

The train is fine.

Blogger Looking Glass March 03, 2018 2:18 PM  

@13 Shimshon

"Free Speech isn't a suicide pact". (This ignores that 1900 1st Amendment vs 1970 1st Amendment are different things because they've destroyed the language & law.)

People don't understand Americans if they don't realize the line "I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands" isn't some catchy phrase that the NRA crafted. It was turning a reality into a meme. It's a version of the "Shit like this is why I got elected" meme about Trump.

As for Trump's statements at the meeting and around 2nd Amendment, Trump established during the campaign he was good on the big picture stuff, but if it wasn't a big issue, he wasn't always up on the really wonky details. Now he uses that to his advantage. I can't tell if you Trump went into all of this with some details wrong about current gun laws or not. None of us can know, which is exactly to Trump's advantage.

It was actually Larry Schwikart https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart that pointed out Trump didn't want reciprocity in any bill because it would attract support from the Right. But that also happened late into the meeting. Was Trump's approach & position different from the start to the end? I don't know! He's already taken a very different approach to these working meetings, coming in with a Strategy but little in the way of hard details he wants.

The other thing to remember, which effects a lot of things, is that Trump's nose for when a deal won't work is quite good. If there's no "deal" to be made, he's going to extract value from his time. If he's going to spend an hour in front of the camera, he's going to extract maximum value from it. That's what 50 years of being quick on your feet gets you.

Blogger Looking Glass March 03, 2018 2:23 PM  

@17 SemiSpook37

I know it hasn't been a year yet, but in April 2017 the entire Western Establishment tried to drum up WW3 for 3 days. After Trump dealt with that extremely well, I'll let Trump do his thing. If he can absorb that, he can absorb more than anyone else can toss his way.

However, he does need to figure out his staffing issues. Too much of the upper management of the government is against him, and they need to be removed.

Blogger The Observer March 03, 2018 2:24 PM  

I'm glad to see you coming around to seeing the benefit of speech bans. There is almost nothing more anti-American than advocating for gun control of any sort. And free speech in practice, even in America, is not anything close to absolutist, as I think you've pointed out.

Blasphemy and lese-majeste laws have always existed, the only question is what the subjects of such laws are.

Blogger Crew March 03, 2018 2:26 PM  

Meanwhile, has Donald Rumsfeld always been an Israeli agent?

http://www.targetfreedomusa.com/doj-released-files-president-kennedy-ag-robert-kennedy-fighting-zionists-when-murdered/

Blogger pyrrhus March 03, 2018 2:46 PM  

VD--Arrest Dan Israel, take Nikolas Cruz into custody, stop the demolition of the school, and order an investigation into the Broward County Sheriff's Office, the Secret Service, and every other federal, state, local agency that had any contact with that school in the last six months. Then publish the results of the investigation and have the DOJ prosecute the various guilty parties.
Criminalize the public advocacy of gun control, using the anti-BDS template. Any television or radio station advocating gun control would lose its broadcasting license. Any corporation advocating gun control would lose its federal contracts.
Announce mandatory carry reciprocity between states on pain of losing federal highway funds.
Stop all federal funding to all universities, colleges, and schools that ban guns on campus.
Announce an executive order suspending all state and local gun control laws.

Yes, just so. But Trump is obviously deluded, or just plain soft on the gun control issue, even though the legislation will never happen. This is an area where Trump can actually gain votes by doing just one or two of the things you suggest, and I can easily think of others--like the Ear Protection issue stalled in Congress...Trump needs to start listening if we want to have a Trumpslide.

Blogger saintCrispee March 03, 2018 2:47 PM  

"Criminalize the public advocacy of gun control, using the anti-BDS template. Any television or radio station advocating gun control would lose its broadcasting license. Any corporation advocating gun control would lose its federal contracts"

The congressional attempt at passing anti-BDS legislation never went anywhere. The attempt to do so was never a real legislative effort. It was virtue signaling. Those who wrote the legislation and those who supported it knew from the beginning that the ACLU was correct in its description of the bill: entirely unconstitutional.

The idea of criminalizing advocacy for gun control as well as political expression is equally unconstitutional and equally virtue signaling.

Blogger EasyCompany March 03, 2018 2:56 PM  

@18. D.

"I think Z was trolling. ymmv"

Yep, and all the anti-trumpers came running out of the wood work.

Of course, VD is never wrong, so Z-Man really is a never-trumper.

Blogger Ingot9455 March 03, 2018 2:58 PM  

There's loads of entirely unconstitutional laws on the books.

Blogger crypto.fashion March 03, 2018 3:02 PM  

@5 We stand with Jack Ward. It's company policy.

Blogger pyrrhus March 03, 2018 3:11 PM  

O/T Meanwhile, Putin's speech reveals that Russia's technological advantage in weapons just keeps getting greater. The US blue water Navy, as I have been predicting for a decade, is dead man walking, and our expensive (and old) ABM system is going to be useless...

Blogger Lovekraft March 03, 2018 3:12 PM  

@26: perhaps, but are you counting the possibility that doing so would shift the Overton and expose the left's position?

Blogger Banjo March 03, 2018 3:18 PM  

I think it's "Scott" Israel of the BSO...

Blogger Geoarrge March 03, 2018 3:22 PM  

Public advocacy of gun control is already a crime. 18 USC §241. Conspiracy against constitutional rights is punishable by up to ten years in prison.

Blogger saintCrispee March 03, 2018 3:24 PM  

@26

No, I'm not taking that into account. Far more devious attempts to curtail speech have occurred over the years and the judicial support and public support for the 1st Amendment has only gotten stronger.

Blogger saintCrispee March 03, 2018 3:29 PM  

"Public advocacy of gun control is already a crime. 18 USC §241. Conspiracy against constitutional rights is punishable by up to ten years in prison."

LOL...That's a novel use of 241. I just don't think you could find a prosecutor on the left, in the center or on the right to buy into the interpretation. Advocating for a change is laws isn't the same as blocking access to the polls.

Blogger tz March 03, 2018 3:37 PM  

Yes, we just went through this thing with DACA and the Dreamers, and Trump offered 1.8 million amnesties for passage of something like REACT, and the Democrats rejected it.

You are watching a master deal maker - who has to get the opposition to reveal their hands (or clasp them together like Diane Feinstine while grinning), and then arrange it so THEY reject the deal.

Maybe we will get 62 Senators and add a few seats to the house at this rate.

The Dreamers and immigration lobby is irate. Note how the vitriol shifted from Trump to Shumer and Pelosi on the issue. No one remembers the intracacies of the actual bills. The Democrats made it about DACA.

Bump stocks is a calculated risk as it is probably not legal for him to use an executive order and it is one of the most useless or counterproductive "accessories". Like a ban on rabbit ears TV antennae.

But watch and see if the Democrats vote against their own "common sense" legislation when it comes time to vote on a real bill. The first draft is not the last, and reciprocal concealed carry and such might be enough of a poison pill, or something else that if the Democrats vote No, the status quo remains and everyone calms down, but if they vote Yes, the positives will outweigh the negatives.

It is an ugly game, and requires compromise, and is about as nice as making sausages, but that is politics, especially when there are decades of crony corruption accumulated.

Also Trump seems to prefer working in the background. He's already accomplished 64% of his agenda while we've been watching the Oooh, Shiny.

Blogger tuberman March 03, 2018 3:40 PM  

Rope a Dope.

And,...and, the Left really think they are winning. They are bringing out more, and more of their wooden cannons.

What would Sun Tzu say about the God Emperor's recent moves? "Hide your heavy armaments until you are ready to

It's too early to act, unless it's completely secret ops, all the public stuff comes with the appropriate timing. It's almost fun to watch these people's shear arrogance, as if everything will be business as usual, only more so for the Left. It IS ABOUT TO ROLL WHOLLY OVER.

Blogger FP March 03, 2018 3:42 PM  

@18

From Zman's reactions in the comments (and some of his past posts), I doubt it.

Blogger kurt9 March 03, 2018 3:46 PM  

The Z Man is generally quite good and I read him everyday. However, I was quite surprised at his whinny rant about Trump the other day. It seemed out of character to his previous writings and my respect for him went down a bit.

Blogger Geoarrge March 03, 2018 3:48 PM  

Certainly, applying 18 USC §241, 242, or 245 to the Second Amendment would be novel territory.

Granted, several forms of public advocacy might be defensible. But authoring, co-sponsoring, or voting for any unconstitutional bill; using public institutions to denigrate constitutional rights; or claiming nonprofit status while denigrating constitutional rights could probably be targeted.

Blogger Jack Amok March 03, 2018 3:49 PM  

LOL...That's a novel use of 241. I just don't think you could find a prosecutor on the left, in the center or on the right to buy into the interpretation. Advocating for a change is laws isn't the same as blocking access to the polls.

What you don't understand is that we have two choice. We can put enough gun-grabbers in prison that the rest stop trying, or we can let things continue to the point where we have to shoot them out of self-defense.

So you can pooh-pooh the idea all you want, but it or worse is coming.

Blogger Jack Amok March 03, 2018 3:54 PM  

I think Z was trolling. ymmv

No, he wasn't. Or else he's the most incompetent troll on the internet. As far as mileage varying, Volkswagen is more honest in their mileage estimates.

Blogger saintCrispee March 03, 2018 4:00 PM  

@40
"Granted, several forms of public advocacy might be defensible. But authoring, co-sponsoring, or voting for any unconstitutional bill; using public institutions to denigrate constitutional rights; or claiming nonprofit status while denigrating constitutional rights could probably be targeted."

You can target whatever you want just like you can sue anyone for whatever you want. The problem you have with using 241 to target the 2nd Amendment is that the Supreme Court has long (and recently) said that the right to bear arms is not absolute. There are limits that can be placed on the way the 2nd Amendment is applied. No one even thought of challenging Scalia when he noted that some limits on the 2nd Amendment were allowed.

@41
"What you don't understand is that we have two choice. We can put enough gun-grabbers in prison that the rest stop trying, or we can let things continue to the point where we have to shoot them out of self-defense."

We have many more than 2 choices. First of all, your first option isn't even a choice. You can't imprison someone for suggesting that we ought to pass a law that requires a waiting period.

Blogger Anti Dem March 03, 2018 4:01 PM  

Maybe Trump won’t actually do anything on guns. I hope so. But am I really supposed to give him some kind of big thumbs up if he doesn’t? Don’t think so. He’s a Republican. He’s not *supposed* to pass any new gun control laws. As Chris Rock said, you don’t get extra credit for doing stuff you’re just *supposed* to do. “I know I said I might pass the most radical new gun control in 25 years, but in the end, I didn’t!” What do you want, a cookie? Even if he doesn’t sign any, demonizing his closest allies and ceding the moral high ground to his enemies on this issue was phenomenally stupid, a yuge backstab, or both.

I tire of the public cucking and subsequent reversals, and of the “Will he turn heel or not?” bullshit. You’re not at goddamn Wrestlemania anymore, Mr. Trump. Act like the president of a first-world country. Lead. Support your base. Dance with who brought you. No more treating your base like a beaten housewife who just burned the pot roast, and enough with the fucking six-dimensional interstellar backgammon. This incident is the point at which that jumped the shark. I want honesty, courage, and leadership. “I’ll say I’m going to betray my most passionate supporters and then count on Paul Ryan to save me from having to commit to whether or not I’d really do it if the bill hit my desk” isn’t what leadership looks like.

Blogger Ford Prefect March 03, 2018 4:02 PM  

Just noticed on IGN that BlackRock is starting to give firearms manufacturers a rough time. Over the years, I've heard of various "ethical funds", funds which don't include guns or tobacco or name your terrible product. I've often wondered whether there are any "unethical funds", funds that aim for guns and tobacco and other horrible products. I'd be interested in seeing their return rates, if they exist.

Anyone ever heard of such a thing? Or want to start one?

Blogger Man of the Atom March 03, 2018 4:13 PM  

crypto.fashion wrote:@5 We stand with Jack Ward. It's company policy.

Smart company!

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) March 03, 2018 4:22 PM  

Anyone ever heard of such a thing? Or want to start one?

Last year I looked at an ATF strategy using the Dow Jones industry indices for alcohol, tobacco, and defense. I don't remember the exact returns, but they weren't bad.

Unfortunately, starting a mutual fund costs several hundred thousand dollars.

Blogger tuberman March 03, 2018 4:28 PM  

It's not a matter of will he or won't he, like some hair supplies commercial. It's a matter of is the God Emperor doing a Sun Tzu on the Left? "Act weak, when you are strong." When the pounce comes, a major part has to happen all at once, if public, otherwise secret ops are necessary. Although, hints are around, if you are looking for the negative or. "Nothing is being done, 'cause I don't see nuttin'," you will find it, as it is put out there for the stupid Dims on both sides.

The state of intelligence gathering is incredible, and this is the data leads to Broward County:

"Four cops taking heavy dufflebag to a truck
4 cops stood by while shooting happened
Teacher reported shooter had full body armor in hallway
Body armor weighs 40 pounds
Reports of 2 (maybe 3)shooters from multiple witnesses coming up each stairwell to create killbox.
Assuming 2 shooters with body armor, total weight 80 lbs + ammo and guns....100 lbs.
Just about the size and weight of that dufflebag thrown into the back of that truck....
Place two cops at each exit to control entry while op happens, and you pretty much explained the data at scene of the crime....."

Simple, and Trump and his people KNOW ALL OF THIS, and more. Not time for public pouncing.

Blogger tuberman March 03, 2018 4:35 PM  

Z-Man just goes as the winds blow? Gets immediate clicks that way. A finger to the wind lacks integrity.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore March 03, 2018 5:00 PM  

I cannot get worked up over Trump's comments. In the campaign he did that thing with the NRA. He came out on stage holding a musket as a sign. I cannot think of a time when Trump did not keep his word.

I'm not sweating this at all. In fact, I am more optimistic about the future of our nation than before. In fact, I have a slight optimism about the defeat of the globalists and the so-called Deep State. I actually think the potential of a bright future is a real possibility.

Imagine three or four years from now. We're all watching the Democratic Party going into a complete disintegration. People who were loyal Democratic voters are distancing themselves from the Democrats. Antifa is reduced to a handful of Marxists who cannot get a job shoveling sh!t. Gitmo is bursting at the seems with people who are not Jihadi terrorists. And Ron Paul has written a lengthy article titled "Now That the Fed is Gone, What's Next?"

Blogger Duh-ave March 03, 2018 5:10 PM  

@43 Check how Abe, Woody and Frank couldn't arrest anyone.
@44 Godspeed! You'll be the one with the rope. I just know it. Seriously, the GE is counting on this. Froth away!

Blogger LP999-16 March 03, 2018 5:16 PM  

Perhaps zman is not a heretic just yet, it appears Z is venting, emoting, upset and mostly rhetorical today.

He will need some to chill, relax, take a few breaths. No worries, time for Z to curl up next to this Trump 2020 shirt and rest.

The 1A, 2A along with immigration main priorities.

Excellent hard news items at infogalatic news.

I am not alarmed at all by Ash Wednesday, locally it was spoke of and local pd knows about and disallows/does not follow the dictates of any promise program furthering youthful criminality.

Blogger Mister Excitement March 03, 2018 5:28 PM  

If anybody hasn't noticed that Trump plays "Rope A Dope" on almost every issue, they haven't been paying attention.

Or they're just dumb. Or dishonest.

Or all of the above.

Guns in America are safe with Trump. Trump Jr. is an avid shooter, and Trump has had a concealed carry permit for many years.

It comes down to trust. Trump is the first national politician in my lifetime that I trust.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore March 03, 2018 5:34 PM  

If this Q stuff is real then I do believe that we are in a moment that is somewhat akin to the English Civil War. The AmRev comparisons, in my opinion, are not in play.

Blogger van helsing March 03, 2018 5:35 PM  

like snidely, i am not happy with trump either, but he kind of aimed a barb at toomey to see if difi would like it. we will have to see. i do think that adding reciprocity to any bill will get dimrats and cucks to react very noticeably. no way they want national reciprocity. it could be the chip to threaten them with to see what else can be obtained. / and its always ok to get irritated with trump and/or hold his feet to the fire. remind him we exist.

Blogger ReluctantMessiah March 03, 2018 5:39 PM  

Now, I don't like Trump's response to the post-Parkland media campaign either.

Trump is known as the Comeback Kid for a reason. Sure his initial response raised eyebrows. But like you've said many times Vox, he is quick to correct mistakes. And in the end, the results speak much louder than any words Trump says

Blogger Jack Amok March 03, 2018 6:12 PM  

First of all, your first option isn't even a choice. You can't imprison someone for suggesting that we ought to pass a law that requires a waiting period.

Really? And you can't fine someone for refusing to bake a gay cake either, can you? And White South African farmers can't have their land taken away either, right? You can't use the IRS to target opposition groups and you can't use the FBI to wiretap your opponents campaign either.

You have limited historical knowledge if you really think anything "can't" be done.

Anonymous Anonymous March 03, 2018 6:14 PM  

I do not like that post by the Z-Man, but I sort of understand it.

We have been disappointed by politicians so damn often that a guy is just waiting for the next one to double cross us. However, Vox is spot on to point out that we have to wait to see what this President will DO before we go crazy. So far, it is all talk on the gun issue. We will see what we will see.

Blogger DaninMD March 03, 2018 6:21 PM  

Wherein the Vatican goes all favor of in Zimbabwe-style land appropriation from whites:

http://www.vaticannews.va/en/church/news/2018-03/south-africa-bishops-new-president-land-reform.html

Blogger John Bradley March 03, 2018 6:23 PM  

I recall Molyneux pointing out some time ago -- possibly during the DACA fooferall -- that "Trump can't do it on his own, he needs his base to apply heat to their representatives and melt the phone lines", or words to that effect.

I'd suggest that perhaps the more hysterical "he's selling us out!" types on the right, at least when they aren't being defeatist or flouncing, are doing their part to rile up the rank-and-file... whether they realize it or not.

Blogger DaninMD March 03, 2018 6:24 PM  

Typo:

Wherein the Vatican goes all-in for Zimbabwe-style land appropriation from whites:

http://www.vaticannews.va/en/church/news/2018-03/south-africa-bishops-new-president-land-reform.html

Blogger The Rev March 03, 2018 6:27 PM  

Stick with Trump until he screws up with actions instead of words.

Blogger Nakota Publishing March 03, 2018 6:39 PM  

Vox, I'd be 100% against abridging the 1st Amendment to save the 2nd. But I do think Trump should sic the IRS on non-profits that oppose guns, and initiate anti-trust action against Google and other SJW social media monopolies.

Blogger Andrew Pryzant March 03, 2018 6:50 PM  

One issue that has been a complete failure for progressive traitors is that of gun-grabbing, mainly because is energizes patriots. As a result they have stayed away. This November it will be necessary to have an energizing issue to counter the anti-Trump mania of the bad guys. Perhaps getting the dimwits to commit openly to gun confiscation is that energizing issue.

Blogger Ransom Smith March 03, 2018 7:02 PM  

I'd be 100% against abridging the 1st Amendment to save the 2nd
The first amendment is already dead .
You have to bake a cake, can't openly criticize many groups , and now Israel included .
The first she most definitely tenth amendments are dead .
Save the second while still possible .

Blogger Jack Amok March 03, 2018 7:04 PM  

BTW, one of the targets of the Crisis Actors Guild was NRA TV. Both Amazon and Roku were targetted with demands they remove NRA TV from their services. Neither has as of the moment, and Roku specifically stated they will not censor content. I checked Amazon - lots of Lefty trolls leaving fake one-star reviews, claiming the channel promotes violence. Lying in a review strikes me as a reason to report it for abuse.

There are some legit one-star reviews that discuss the quality of the programming. They're not abuse.

Blogger VD March 03, 2018 7:05 PM  

I think Z was trolling. ymmv

If so, he's admirably committed to it.

I'd be 100% against abridging the 1st Amendment to save the 2nd.

Will you give up the 2nd to save the 1st? Because those may be your options.

Blogger tuberman March 03, 2018 7:08 PM  

63. Nakota Publishing

Let's suppose that many NGO's have been up to no good for a long time, and their assets will be seized for the crimes involved. Will the IRS even exist as the IRS anymore, as everyone their has made money from the corruption on the left/nwo. I don't have any idea what will be done with the tech left, but taxing the money sent home by all the dot Indians/Pakis by a large percent will help to get them to self deport. These foreign devils make up the majority of the censors/SJW doing the job of taking away Right voices.

Blogger van helsing March 03, 2018 7:13 PM  

giving up the 2nd wont save the 1st. it will kill it too, instantly. (and the others as well, altho maybe barely on life support now.) like destroying the village to save it.

Blogger LP999-16 March 03, 2018 7:25 PM  

No, no 1A, 2A remain in place as obvious shall nots.

Urgent its serious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f62fPtG0ues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKhnTtHi7w


More Serious;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrq6LQvqjSY


Let us be out of time for feelings.

Blogger Thebrainfuggler March 03, 2018 7:42 PM  

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Blogger NeoNietzsche: March 03, 2018 8:09 PM  

@33 "18 USC §241. Conspiracy against constitutional rights is punishable by up to ten years in prison.

Cool, let's add that to the obmination's charge sheet!

Blogger Nate March 03, 2018 8:12 PM  

Amen Vox.

As I have been trying to say for some time... Trump is not above criticism.. and at the same time... criticism does not mean you do not support Trump.

No man is infallible.

I want Trump to be wildly successful. And I want Trump to grow to be a bit more circumspect on certain topics.

Blogger James Dixon March 03, 2018 8:12 PM  

> Meanwhile, has Donald Rumsfeld always been an Israeli agent?

Pretty much, yes. He was a consummate neocon after all.

> Trump needs to start listening if we want to have a Trumpslide.

Have you written him a nice polite letter explaining what it is he should do?

> I've often wondered whether there are any "unethical funds", funds that aim for guns and tobacco and other horrible products.

The phrase you're looking for is "sin stocks". See:

https://investorplace.com/2014/08/best-mutual-funds-sin-stocks/
https://www.thebalance.com/mutual-funds-investing-in-sin-stocks-2466800
https://money.usnews.com/funds/mutual-funds/large-blend/usa-mutuals-vice-fund/vicex

I'm sure you can find lots more with a simple search.

Thanks for the reminder that I need to email the White House, Vox. I've been busy.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 03, 2018 8:21 PM  

Didn't the President already counter-signal with this?
He did so faster than expected possibly.

It's happened too many times for anyone to get emotional or abandon him. He plays games. He has a reasoning and strategy behind it, though I don't pretend to know what it is. Maybe it's to galvanize his base, who, unlike the unemployed bottom and privileged top of the democrats, can get mired in the life of work and family to the point that political participation falls by the wayside. This is a totally uninformed guess.

The president come come out and say, "We need criminalize heterosexuality," and yet we shouldn't react. He clearly does the abject opposite of what he says. Maybe it's a NY Real Estate technique. Who knows?
He's not an apple pie midwestern or southern (myself). He's a slick, manipulative New Yorker who doesn't mind a few decoys being used.


Maybe that's for the best. We see what the old style gentleman AG is doing. Though I don't pretend to know what is going on there.

I just know there is absolutely zero chance of him taking anyone's guns or passing any anti gun legislation. If he really thought that, he would be the most politically braindead politician we've ever had. The man carrying es himself, even.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 03, 2018 8:23 PM  

* carries himself.

Blogger saintCrispee March 03, 2018 8:29 PM  

"You have limited historical knowledge if you really think anything "can't" be done."

And if you think a law could be passed and survive that punishes someone for advocating for a gun law then you ignoring political reality.

Blogger NeoNietzsche: March 03, 2018 8:30 PM  

@44 'Act like the president of a first-world country."

You mean, like the obamination or the Bush Monkey? What "first world" president have you been even slightly satisfied with? We NEED different. We GOT different. I'm LOVING different!

Blogger Dire Badger March 03, 2018 9:11 PM  

I am usually cool with Z-Man, but this time he went WAY off the goddamned rails.

Blogger James Dixon March 03, 2018 9:27 PM  

> And if you think a law could be passed and survive

It only has to survive long enough to make an example of certain groups of people.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 03, 2018 9:39 PM  

"And if you think a law could be passed and survive that punishes someone for advocating for a gun law then you ignoring political reality."

Hardly.

It's quite easy, really. Make a little law, that only criminalizes certain things, like all warrantless search or seizure period. Start by shoring up the gaps and adding just a biiiit extra.

Next you move on to things like age limits on firearms purchases, or repealing laws against certain firearm accessories.

Then you start with laws that seize and invert things the left is already going after. Produce (by hook or crook if necessary) court judgements defining hate speech with regards to armaments and the people the own them. Seems very liberal, no?

Then you start taking scalps for display. Media pops up with a school shooting, pushing to ban firearms? Licentious hate-speech against arms owners isn't free speech anymore, do not pass go, welcome to jail, fines, and revocation of broadcast licenses for subversive activity.

Obviously you don't go straight for the jugular.

If you honestly think it can't be done you're a completely ignorant fool, on more subjects than simply history. Whether it ought be done is a different question.

Blogger LP999-16 March 03, 2018 9:40 PM  

Must hear; https://www.periscope.tv/voxday/1ynJOAXveVrKR

Blogger Duh-ave March 03, 2018 9:50 PM  

@77 No law needs to be passed. Abe arrested the entire Maryland state legislature to keep them from voting. He personally suspended habeus corpus when that power was reserved to the legislative branch. Strong presidents often get away with doing whatever they want and congress never fixes it. Trump is making everyone decide what they want and when they do he will enact a solution. It may be a final solution for the internal enemies of America. He won't let the country fall waiting for some stinkin law.

Blogger D. March 03, 2018 10:04 PM  

@67
"I think Z was trolling. ymmv

If so, he's admirably committed to it."

He was going to do his weekly podcast on this topic but refrained.
I think he likes press folk's buttons. His next post is on the "free" trade cult. ymmv

Blogger Lazarus March 03, 2018 10:05 PM  

Hint From History:

Differing views and solutions to national policy were encouraged based on the famous expression by Communist Party Chairman Mao Zedong: "The policy of letting a hundred flowers bloom and a hundred schools of thought contend is designed to promote the flourishing of the arts and the progress of science." The movement was in part a response to the demoralization of intellectuals, who felt estranged from The Communist Party.After this brief period of liberalization, Mao used this to oppress those who challenged the communist regime by using force. The crackdown continued through 1957 as an Anti-Rightist Campaign against those who were critical of the regime and its ideology. Those targeted were publicly criticized and condemned to prison labor camps.

Trump is flushing out the opposition into the [kill zone]

Blogger tuberman March 03, 2018 10:16 PM  

Within three months you guys are going to be pleasantly shocked, and not just surprised by what happens (except the shills, and you need to pack your bug-out bag, real quick).

It's all been figured out, and the Wild Hunt ist sehr bald. Verstehen du?

Hapsburgs goodbye! Royal families too.

Blogger Felix Bellator March 03, 2018 10:18 PM  

@77 "Oh now who's being naive, Kay?"

Blogger Jack Amok March 03, 2018 10:27 PM  

And if you think a law could be passed and survive that punishes someone for advocating for a gun law then you ignoring political reality

You have no idea how ephemeral political reality is.

Blogger tuberman March 03, 2018 10:30 PM  

The Law can change to be reversed on the SJWs, and it will, or I expect it to go that far and further.

Blogger tuberman March 03, 2018 10:36 PM  

I expect there will be all sorts of laws passed to destroy SJWs at all levels. It will be absolutely necessary.

Blogger Lazarus March 03, 2018 10:46 PM  

Trump Strategy endorsement

This woman thinks a lot of the leaks about chaos in the Trump WH are generated by the Trump team itself.

Sounds good, too.

It suits him to let them swim in their deluded world and to regard him as a buffoon. Part of his genius is that he creates the reality his enemies WANT to see.
19. Because they cannot understand Trump, they use the simplistic narrative & caricature he creates, in order to make sense of the chaos he is ALSO creating. They are off-balance and confused, 24/7.

Trump owns them.

Blogger Frank Brady March 03, 2018 11:18 PM  

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Blogger Frank Brady March 03, 2018 11:25 PM  

With all due respect, for the President of the United States to take a public position that attacks the 2nd Amendment and its supporters is "actually doing something" and it is very dangerous.

Blogger Lazarus March 03, 2018 11:41 PM  

@93

Frank. You are watching a movie. A movie, Frank.


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Mar 1

Many ideas, some good & some not so good, emerged from our bipartisan meeting on school safety yesterday at the White House. Background Checks a big part of conversation. Gun free zones are proven targets of killers. After many years, a Bill should emerge. Respect 2nd Amendment!


=Just enforce the laws already on the books.
=Gun free zones are [kill zones]
=2A good.

Blogger Frank Brady March 03, 2018 11:45 PM  

To clarify, in the run up to 2020, how many times do you suppose the Democrats will run the video with Trump urging Feinstein to attach "assault weapons ban" language to her bill? How many low-information voters do you suppose will see it and be influenced by it?

Blogger Frank Brady March 03, 2018 11:48 PM  

A movie? That's the point. Millions of Americans who don't much care about the 2nd Amendment will be influenced by this "movie" to believe that an "assault weapons ban" must be no big deal if even the "Republican President" doesn't care about it?

Blogger rsj March 03, 2018 11:55 PM  

@ 86/Tuberman

Ride, Hide, or Die. Where we go one, we go all. I am so blessed to live in and witness such exciting times.

@95/ Frank

Tighten up dude. Your fears are hiding your balls. They will try what you are saying they will do, but it wont work. The news cycle rolls too fast for that and they have lost, they know it, and are desperately lashing out.

Besides, instead of wringing your hands over that, work to change it. Talk to your friends, coworkers and fellow 2A people when this topic comes up and fill them in. Prayer is a good thing too.

Blogger lowell houser March 04, 2018 12:01 AM  

Anonymous Zack Updates Infowars About What Is Going On In The World And Trumpland
https://www_youtube_com/watch?v=Bvwv3ahR5FQ&t

"There's dead kids. Trump politically can't do NOTHING. SO he's proposed as little as possible."

Zack says "dead kids" a lot. And he talks about the upcoming military tribunals that Q mentioned coming soon to a GITMO near you. Funny thing, my own baby boomer NRA father that raised me with semi-auto firearms just this morning used the phrase "military-style weapons" and "if it saves one child" before saying "the world has changed and we have to change with it." Just like I'm absolutely certain he heard on Fox News that morning before our argument.

I responded, NO WE DO NOT. We need give up NOTHING. We must fight EVERYTHING.

I continue to support the God Emperor for what little difference my private facebook page matters, but this is gonna make life difficult for everybody on the Trump Train.

Anonymous Anonymous March 04, 2018 12:02 AM  

6. Provide cash bounties for killing communists

Blogger VFM #7634 March 04, 2018 12:04 AM  

Trump hasn't let us down yet, and I fail to see how he's gonna start now.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 04, 2018 12:47 AM  

"How many low-information voters do you suppose will see it and be influenced by it?"

You mean the same ones who don't responsibly own arms, and want more gun control?

Blogger Frank Brady March 04, 2018 12:59 AM  

Here's the first volley with ammunition provided by Trump. It's only just begun: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/03/03/feinstein-i-hope-trumps-comments-can-be-a-lesson-for-congress-to-pass-gun-reforms/

Blogger Frank Brady March 04, 2018 1:06 AM  

@100 Azure Amaranthine

"How many low-information voters do you suppose will see it and be influenced by it?"

You mean the same ones who don't responsibly own arms, and want more gun control?
--------------------------------------------------------------
That's exactly who I mean. There are millions of them and many of them vote.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 04, 2018 1:50 AM  

@Frank Brady,
See the title of yhis post. He's talking specifically about you.

Blogger Wolfman at Large March 04, 2018 3:51 AM  

The Military Intelligence Patriots must have had 4 to 6 years to plan the De-Clintoning of America.

That said people are getting very impatient and popcorn supplies are running low.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 04, 2018 4:35 AM  

What you're describing is similar to the Spartans and their slaves (the Helots).
The king of Sparta was struggling against Athens, and decided to grant the helots freedom in exchange for serving in the army.
When thousands of brave Helots, old and young, arrived at the mustering grounds, the Spartan king had them all massacred, for daring to think they could ever be free. He also got rid of the bravest of the Helots.

Blogger Duh-ave March 04, 2018 6:02 AM  

@95 Two years can be a very long time. Why are you so sure that there will be any Democrats left to vote? I'm uncomfortable myself with our situation but war does that to most people. Like it or not we are in the middle of a war. Expect friendly fire casualties.

Blogger Microraptor zhaoianus March 04, 2018 6:51 AM  

Do you actually get the "God-Emperor" reference, or is that just some phrase you picked up from people mocking your ilk and, ignorant of its meaning, adopted in an attempt to "turn their weapons against them"`?

Although, given how utterly twisted and insane you are, you would probably consider the Imperium of Man utopic, anyways.

Blogger VD March 04, 2018 6:59 AM  

Do you actually get the "God-Emperor" reference, or is that just some phrase you picked up from people mocking your ilk and, ignorant of its meaning, adopted in an attempt to "turn their weapons against them"`?

I'm a game designer. What do you think, heretic?

Blogger Duh-ave March 04, 2018 7:11 AM  

Purrrrrrrrrrr

Blogger Anti Dem March 04, 2018 7:39 AM  

As @101 said, gun grabbers are already using Trump's stupid comments from this past week as a weapon against the Second Amendment. He really screwed the pooch on this. There's no defending it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fscpG9LF3-c

Blogger Jeff March 04, 2018 9:05 AM  

Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 04, 2018 9:22 AM  

"That's exactly who I mean. There are millions of them and many of them vote."

You're not very bright, are you? You might want to go back and re-read that argument.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 04, 2018 9:51 AM  

"As @101 said, gun grabbers are already using Trump's stupid comments from this past week as a weapon against the Second Amendment."

You guys are either incredibly ignorant or entirely dishonest. We actually WANT the left showing this stuff to their own people, as it polarizes even their own bases against each other.

As for Frank, that set of low-information voters were going to vote that way either way. Now, even their slightly-higher information brethren (who happen to own weapons even while being on the left) are going to be turned against them, because they're going to hopelessly, mindlessly double down on it.

Queue the further irreconcilable fracturing of, and damage to the Dem voter base.

Blogger Frank Brady March 04, 2018 12:36 PM  

No, many low information voters who haven't voted in the past and think they want "gun control" (because the media brainwashes them with lies) will read Trump's ill advised comments as evidence that the anti-gun lies are correct. It will add to, not damage, the Dem voter base.

Blogger VD March 04, 2018 3:44 PM  

No, many low information voters who haven't voted in the past and think they want "gun control" (because the media brainwashes them with lies) will read Trump's ill advised comments as evidence that the anti-gun lies are correct. It will add to, not damage, the Dem voter base.

You're wrong. And you will soon see how wrong you are when Trump exceeds expectations. Again.

Blogger Frank Brady March 04, 2018 3:57 PM  

I hope you are right, Vox. You most often are. I initially voted for Trump despite misgivings about his previous positions on some important issues because he had all the right enemies. We shall see.

Blogger James Dixon March 04, 2018 8:23 PM  

> Within three months you guys are going to be pleasantly shocked, and not just surprised by what happens

I wake up every morning shocked and surprised Hillary isn't our President and I'm not having to make plans to leave the country. Trump is a gift from God.

> It will add to, not damage, the Dem voter base.

Frank, all the anti-gun people are already in the Dem's base. There's no one to add.

The best you can argue is that it will energize them to vote, and that was already the case.

Blogger Frank Brady March 04, 2018 8:57 PM  

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Blogger Frank Brady March 04, 2018 9:02 PM  

No James, the biggest issue is not losing an election (although that could happen if clips of Trump's comments discourages enough supporters), but losing the war of ideas. When the President of the United States who should be the strongest defender of the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution appears to concede the argument on television, he places the entire argument at potential risk in the Congressional elections of 2018, the Presidential election of 2020, and potentially for decades to come.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 05, 2018 12:23 PM  

Frank Brady wrote:When the President of the United States who should be the strongest defender of the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution appears to concede the argument on television, he places the entire argument at potential risk in the Congressional elections of 2018, the Presidential election of 2020, and potentially for decades to come.

You haven't read any of the comments here about how Trump has energized his pro-gun base and forced the Dems and some of the GOPe to make gun control an issue in November. That's not going to help the Leftists in the safe Lefty seats, and it's going to hurt the Leftists in the not-so-safe seats.

You have a grand prescription for another round of noble losing. It's a good thing Trump isn't filling that script.

Blogger Frank Brady March 05, 2018 10:55 PM  

The comments here about Trump "energizing his pro-gun base" are from well-intended wishful thinkers. Social media posts indicate that Trump's comments have demoralized many of his followers. Most voters don't have a real stake in the 2nd Amendment because a majority of them don't own guns. The argument that appearing to abandon the 2nd Amendment is a clever strategy is novel, I'll give you that.

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