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Wednesday, March 14, 2018

The roar of the toothless lion

I fail to see the point of Britain's posturing here, unless the neocons are going to try to get their Russian war in an indirect fashion:
Theresa May vowed to expel 23 Russian spies today as she laid out Britain's retaliation over the Salisbury nerve gas outrage. In the biggest diplomatic swipe for decades, the Prime Minister gave the 'undeclared intelligence agents' a week to leave the country and suspended 'all high level contact' with the country.

Mrs May also paved the way for a crackdown on Russian oligarch money in London and urged the international community to join sanctions.

As tensions with Moscow reached new lows, the premier also suggested that covert reprisals would be undertaken - in an apparent hint at cyber attacks.

Mrs May said she was determined that the package would 'fundamentally degrade Russian intelligence' capability in the UK.
Theresa May won't stand up to the European Union and she can't protect British girls from being raped and murdered by third-world invaders, but she's going to stand up to Vladimir Putin and Russia. Sure she is.

At least she's been able to defend the British Isles from Brittany Pettibone!

What a global embarrassment May has turned out to be. Even Red Jeremy wouldn't have been so haplessly incompetent.

UPDATE: Yes, that is what it is. The neocons know they can't get Trump to start a war with Russia over Ukraine or Syria, so they're using May to start it, then rely upon the NATO treaty to force the US to go to war with Russia.
May argued that the incident can be characterized as a state-directed chemical weapon attack that occurred on British territory -- in other words, an act of war. She mentioned invoking NATO Article 5 as a response to incident. NATO Article 5 -- also called The Three Musketeers Clause -- commits the alliance to defend an ally when its territory is attacked. 
Of course, the God-Emperor is far too canny to be manipulated in this obvious way. In fact, the situation may present a golden opportunity for him to tear up the NATO treaty altogether.

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141 Comments:

Blogger Dirk Manly March 14, 2018 9:11 AM  

Last.

With apologies to Andrew Jackson:

"Mrs May has made her decision, now let her enforce it."

That ought to go as well as the 3 stooges doing the plumbing.

Blogger #7139 March 14, 2018 9:11 AM  

Brittany Pettibone had to be turned away from the British Isles, Vox. She was a bigger threat than Russia!

Blogger Salt March 14, 2018 9:12 AM  

Covert reprisals? Since she's taking on the Russians she must have ordered James Bond into action too.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 14, 2018 9:12 AM  

@2

Low hurdle. Russia isn't a threat to Christian Europe.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 14, 2018 9:13 AM  

I skimmed over an article yesterday about how Ukraine was upgraded in the NATO admittance project, so the nerve gas hoax seems to be part of the globalist scam. If I were a Russian on the outs with Putin and cooling my heels in the West thinking life is good I would very, very nervous.

Blogger Robert Divinity March 14, 2018 9:14 AM  

Re: Neocons

Bear in mind Tony Blair manipulated the hapless moron Jorge el-Busto into the Iraq invasion.

Blogger Long Live The West March 14, 2018 9:18 AM  

"Theresa May won't stand up to the European Union and she can't protect British girls from being raped and murdered by third-world invaders, but she's going to stand up to Vladimir Putin and Russia. Sure she is."

Little girls being raped? People run over by cars driven by individuals clearly following Islamic doctrine? Acid attacks? Nothing to see here. Little girls and boys have about as much value as a squirrel. Actually less, I bet the UK police would respond to someone torturing baby squirrels.

A nationalist country doing something perfectly logical? (Assuming they even did it) Defcon 1 people! It is unacceptable that someone would even dare to have a backbone!

Blogger pyrrhus March 14, 2018 9:20 AM  

Since the poisoning was botched and injured many bystanders, we can be pretty sure it was the CIA...possibly MI-5. Too bad the bystanders weren't muslim rape gangs....

Blogger Bobo #117 March 14, 2018 9:22 AM  

Levels of Stupid:

1) Stupid
2) Really Stupid
3) War with Russia

Blogger pyrrhus March 14, 2018 9:23 AM  

Fortunately, no prospect of a war with Russia...The generals aren't that crazy....Just the usual aimless stirring up of trouble.

Blogger Robert Divinity March 14, 2018 9:25 AM  

Fortunately, no prospect of a war with Russia...The generals aren't that crazy....Just the usual aimless stirring up of trouble.

The Neocon goal is a proxy war somewhere. Syria appears to be off the table. We are fortunate the GE is president rather than any of his opponents.

Blogger Shimshon March 14, 2018 9:26 AM  

There is no questions these deaths could benefit the Deep State's UK franchise as much or more than it benefits Russia. No one likes or trusts a turncoat, not even those he turned to. Once they've been debriefed, their value is purely propagandistic. If Putin wanted to take down a few turncoats, I doubt he would be so stupid as to inflict a lot of collateral damage or make it so easy to figure out whodunnit.

A simple heart attack or car accident (so sad!) seems much more appropriate for the Russians.

Blogger Long Live The West March 14, 2018 9:28 AM  

Vox,

Realistically what do you think the UK's chances of survival are? It seems to me that there are a lot of countries that are having a resurgence of nationalism and are fighting back. Hungary, Poland, etc... and even here in America there's a fairly sizable number of people who would fight back when backed into a corner.

But I never really hear anything about people fighting back in the UK. Their infestation of illegal aliens seems more aggressive, in part I would assume, because they allow it. Are they almost to the point of no return?

Blogger SciVo March 14, 2018 9:36 AM  

What is she, a school security officer? "Stop! or I'll yell 'Stop!' again!"

Blogger GithYankee March 14, 2018 9:37 AM  

See now here I disagree - the idea that May is incompetent because she's a woman, and that Brexit-failure, Sharia welcome mat, and Russia sabre rattling are symptoms of incompetence seems unlikely. They seem to me to be part of a plan.

Theresa May is a controlled globalist, and is very successful at her agenda.

Much like the US, the UK can no longer be seen as a Western power. It is a nuclear armed, heavily financed multicultural something else.

Blogger wreckage March 14, 2018 9:38 AM  

@13 they are fighting back, which is why the suppression has gone up a notch.

Blogger tuberman March 14, 2018 9:41 AM  

These deaths just happened to be within eight miles of where the UK develops their nerve agents. Seems May has received her marching orders from...whom? Merkle jumped on this bandwagon so fast, she maybe knew it was about to happen?

Blogger ReluctantMessiah March 14, 2018 9:43 AM  

Leader of the "Conservative" Party. Once again, what have conservatives conserved?

Blogger Peaceful Poster March 14, 2018 9:46 AM  

As an American (i.e. English stock), how do you feel about the fall of England?

1) Sad the homeland is gone.
2) Good riddance (grateful your ancestors saw the writing on the wall).

Blogger Looking Glass March 14, 2018 9:49 AM  

The Syrian Gas Attack false flag was almost assuredly a MI6 operation, even at the time it happened. The further we've gotten from then, the more it's clear how much it was. (Syria was using gas on a few places, but not that one. That's part of why the responses were so weird from everyone.)

They're really, really feeling the pressure if they're going to go this route. It should be noted that Article 5 is more of a "suggestion" ran an actual requirement, and there's no way Trump will fall in line with this. Heck, no one else probably would either.

This is probably in response to Brexit and trying to get the UK mired into everything they can, as it looks like Brexit is still happening. A lot of would-be puppet masters are getting pissed that the strings don't work.

Blogger Harambe March 14, 2018 9:50 AM  

ReluctantMessiah wrote:Leader of the "Conservative" Party. Once again, what have conservatives conserved?

Well Daniel Hannan is really good at telling people they suck, so there's that.

Blogger Looking Glass March 14, 2018 9:50 AM  

@19 Peaceful Poster

I think the proper American response is more, "sweet, we get to actually invade Britain this time. I've got dibs on a castle on a random lake that doesn't make any sense, but it has moss!".

Take the Red Pill, not the Black Pill. Embrace the phrase, "Right of ownership by conquest", it's gonna be big.

Blogger Desdichado March 14, 2018 9:54 AM  

There are reports that Hungary repatriated its gold from London. http://www.mnb.hu/sajtoszoba/sajtokozlemenyek/2018-evi-sajtokozlemenyek/hazaerkezett-az-orszag-aranytartaleka

Blogger Hammerli280 March 14, 2018 9:56 AM  

Completely OT, but it occurred to me that one of the effects of globalism is to undermine the identity of the individual.

No man is an island. A certain amount of our identity comes from being part of a group. And a substantial part of that group-based identity comes from citizenship in a nation.

Globalism treats the common man as part of a grey mass of producing/consuming goo, to be manipulated for the profit of the ruling elite. But reducing people to this nationless mass strips them of identity...and that's not healthy.

It's probably smarter in the long run to promote a healthy nationalism (as opposed to chauvinism). And one wonders how much of Globalism is rooted in sociopathic behavior - treating the victim as a lump of goo is characteristic of a sociopath.

Blogger Hammerli280 March 14, 2018 10:00 AM  

WRT the mess in the UK, this is the sort of thing normally handled on the QT. It's extremely bad manners to indulge in wet work on another nation's sovereign territory. An occasional breach may be tolerated IF there are no innocent bystanders.

The normal countermove at this point would be to expel a slew of Russian "diplomats" (actually intelligence agents). Maybe kill an illegal or two.

Blogger Looking Glass March 14, 2018 10:00 AM  

@24 Hammerli280

Omni-nationalism, my friend, it's going to be big. (Go read the 16 points again.)

Blogger Antony March 14, 2018 10:02 AM  

According to the commentator Michael Black, the Novochol nerve poison manufacturing details are actually on the web, and that the Soviet Union lost control over much of its weaponry during its collapse, furthermore, some of it was distributed to cells in Western Europe ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ldC5shb4w0&feature=em-uploademail .
All the Russophobia is just the (((Cabal))) and military-industrial complex get goading West Europeans to fight East Europeans in yet another damaging brother war to punish Russia for its helping of Assad, and because they traditionally hate the Slavs.

Blogger Mocheirge March 14, 2018 10:03 AM  

Peaceful Poster wrote:As an American (i.e. English stock), how do you feel about the fall of England?

1) Sad the homeland is gone.

2) Good riddance (grateful your ancestors saw the writing on the wall).



3) "Bring me my bow of burning gold..."

Blogger Peaceful Poster March 14, 2018 10:04 AM  

@22 Looking Glass

I like your style!

According to Infogalactic, the percent whites in the UK is still close to 90% while it is rapidly approaching 60% in the USA.

Blogger Teleros March 14, 2018 10:06 AM  

May argued that the incident can be characterized as a state-directed chemical weapon attack that occurred on British territory -- in other words, an act of war.

I did read that the Russian killed was connected to a certain Mr Steele... seems like a more sensible reason for bumping him off than because he was a double agent that Moscow agreed to exchange.

Even Red Jeremy wouldn't have been so haplessly incompetent.

Mrs May is "just" a laughing stock, humiliating my country on the world stage. Agent Cob... well let's just say I bet MI5 has a thick file on him and his fellow Stalinists.

Not exactly a nice choice, but I'd still pick Sharia May over the champagne socialist (and his vociferously anti-Brexit, anti-UK party).

Of course, the God-Emperor is far too canny to be manipulated in this obvious way. In fact, the situation may present a golden opportunity for him to tear up the NATO treaty altogether.

Oh happy days.

Blogger peter blandings March 14, 2018 10:06 AM  

...is far too canny to be manipulated in this obvious way. In fact, the situation may present a golden opportunity for him to tear up the NATO treaty altogether.

you're dreaming, Vox. trump will do whatever he is told to do. he's already said publicly he will take whatever theresa may says as a statement of fact. within 3 months of taking office he reversed himself on every single policy he campaigned on and that got him elected. it only took him 3 weeks to betray flynn, one of his most loyal and competent supporters from the beginning. during the campaign he said nato was obsolete, which is the greatest thing i'd heard in 20 years. but in his first week he sent pence to europe to yammer about how comitted the u.s. was to nato. montenegro was brought into nato on his watch. there are walmart parking lots that are bigger than montenegro so their contribution should be quite significant. he signed off on sending weapons to ukraine, something even obama refused to do. he's deported 26% fewer illegals in his first year in office than obama did in the year before. he'll be told to back up that dumb cunt in england, and he will do exactly that. putin should send one of his hypersonic precision war heads right through the front door of #10. give those faggots a taste.

Blogger Looking Glass March 14, 2018 10:10 AM  

@25 Hammerli280

It's not the cold war. Using highly toxic nerve agents doesn't make a lot of sense for the current Russian government's clandestine operation. It's a great way to cause an international incident, which means why assume Russia has anything to gain by this? Information about the creation of the nerve agent has been in Western hands since the early 90s.

Q's statements on this should be interesting.

Blogger Edwin March 14, 2018 10:10 AM  

May thinks this is her Thatcher Falklands moment.

Blogger Brick Hardslab March 14, 2018 10:15 AM  

Why make threats you can't follow up on? This makes zero sense. Unless the globalist want to humiliate England and play the cold war over again.

Blogger VD March 14, 2018 10:16 AM  

you're dreaming, Vox. trump will do whatever he is told to do. he's already said publicly he will take whatever theresa may says as a statement of fact. within 3 months of taking office he reversed himself on every single policy he campaigned on and that got him elected. it only took him 3 weeks to betray flynn, one of his most loyal and competent supporters from the beginning. during the campaign he said nato was obsolete, which is the greatest thing i'd heard in 20 years. but in his first week he sent pence to europe to yammer about how comitted the u.s. was to nato. montenegro was brought into nato on his watch. there are walmart parking lots that are bigger than montenegro so their contribution should be quite significant. he signed off on sending weapons to ukraine, something even obama refused to do. he's deported 26% fewer illegals in his first year in office than obama did in the year before. he'll be told to back up that dumb cunt in england, and he will do exactly that. putin should send one of his hypersonic precision war heads right through the front door of #10. give those faggots a taste.

You're stupid. Go cry and wait for your hero riding a unicorn. The God-Emperor isn't perfect, but he's been a damned sight better than anyone had expected. And he's not even close to being done.

Blogger Looking Glass March 14, 2018 10:16 AM  

@33 Edwin

No one will remember this next week.


On the Q front, in the run up to the tariffs, something interesting. From March 10:

EU.
Enough is enough.
She was warned.
Q

Then...


10 to comply.
Choice is yours.
Q+

Always so much going on.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 14, 2018 10:16 AM  

May thinks this is where her offshore bank account gets much larger if she can do her part to gin up the hysteria which drives the West to ever greater levels of stooooooopidity.

Blogger Looking Glass March 14, 2018 10:18 AM  

@34 Brick Hardslab

Do you really think the British Pound lost 20% of its value over night because Brexit won? They exact deep costs to anyone that goes against their game. Never forget that.

Blogger Looking Glass March 14, 2018 10:24 AM  

Syrian Gas Attack was in 4 April 2017. It's been 11 months, good timing for another European-based false flag.

Anonymous Anonymous March 14, 2018 10:26 AM  

I’m no expert on espionage, but does the cited article sound silly, as in the same way that all of the Russia Russia Russia news over the past year has?

“You killed one of our former double agents? We’ll, we’re going to expel twenty-three of your spies and retaliate with cyber warfare!”

Me thinks one wouldn’t have to wait for an incident to occur in order to justly remove “Spies.” Also, if May had targeted twenty-three spies, wouldn’t expulsion be a rather soft reprisal?

Blogger Avalanche March 14, 2018 10:26 AM  

VD: "Of course, the God-Emperor is far too canny to be manipulated in this obvious way."

From your keyboard to God's ears!!

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar March 14, 2018 10:31 AM  

If The God-Emperor were to speak out against this idiocy, we can rely on Democrats to begin beating the war drums. Hawks would be everywhere.

Blogger Amy March 14, 2018 10:33 AM  

Russia, Russia, Russia!

Why are they a problem, again? I’m Gen X, I remember the Cold War and East Germany and the USSR. Half of my family fled Ukraine to East, then to West Germany, and ultimately to America, in the ‘50s (they probably have to go back. I know.)

But, glasnost and S.A.L.T. and the fall of the Wall and the end of the USSR have happened and I find it difficult to conceive of a nefarious Russian plot to rule the world, since Russia and Slavic nations in general don’t want to rule anyone but themselves, and will go on offense insofar as it aids their relative isolationist impulses.

They e perhaps seen a few too many kickboxing sexy spy films.

Blogger Steve March 14, 2018 10:34 AM  

Related: I've heard a rumour that the police are using Gab.ai to profile British people with "extreme right" views, such as that we should put a stop to Muslims raping our children.

Apparently they're posing as students on there and ask for Skype interviews so they can "understand" your opinions.

NWA were right.

Blogger wreckage March 14, 2018 10:37 AM  

"within 3 months of taking office he reversed himself on every single policy he campaigned on and that got him elected"

Wow. Dude. Mushroom foraging really isn't for everyone. What colour are the spiders that are feeding you these truths?

Blogger Johnny March 14, 2018 10:41 AM  

>>which means why assume Russia has anything to gain by this?

Yeah, exactly. Could be they did it but it has the smell of a false flag. For me, no matter how cynical I get it isn't quite cynical enough.

Also, England is a banking center and they hold a lot of money from outside England. Could be it is the financial stash that is pushing this stuff.

>> trump will do whatever he is told to do.

Events could push Trump into this or that or anything else, but he is self evidently his own man as much as any of us are.

Blogger BassmanCO March 14, 2018 10:48 AM  

@31 peter blandings -

You talk like a fag. And your shit's all retarded.

Blogger SciVo March 14, 2018 10:52 AM  

May argued that the incident can be characterized as a state-directed chemical weapon attack that occurred on British territory -- in other words, an act of war. She mentioned invoking NATO Article 5 as a response to incident. NATO Article 5 -- also called The Three Musketeers Clause -- commits the alliance to defend an ally when its territory is attacked.

Oh noes! This is certainly the very first time in his life that a woman has tried to play "let's you and him fight" on Donald J. Trump. He is therefore sure to be tricked into white-knighting the faux "damsel in distress." I has a sad. :(

Blogger Nakota Publishing March 14, 2018 10:54 AM  

Why would anybody believe the Russian security services would poison a former spy in such a sloppy and incompetent manner? Even the Norks were able to kill Kim's brother with a targeted skin-based chemical. Stupid MI6 can't even pull off a plasuible false flag. Should have hired the Mossad to do it.

Blogger VD March 14, 2018 10:55 AM  

Apparently they're posing as students on there and ask for Skype interviews so they can "understand" your opinions.

Interesting. I got two requests like that within the last few months, both of which were similarly worded. Of course, I turned them both down.

Anonymous Anonymous March 14, 2018 10:56 AM  

VOX, you are completely wrong about Putin's internal policy. Russia under Putin is not nationalistic state (as you think). It is oligarchy, similar to Papa Dok's Gaiti. All active Russian nationalists are now detained in prison (colonel Kwachkov, Belov etc) or forced to fly from country (Maltsev etc). And Moscow is called Moscowabad in the same way as London – Londonstan.

Blogger tz March 14, 2018 11:02 AM  

Perhaps Argentina should try to reclaim the Malvenas again. May is no Thatcher. And this time they can flood it with boat-people refugees first that will eventually vote to change alliances.

Blogger Matthew Asnip March 14, 2018 11:05 AM  

Yes, Prime Minister foresaw this.

https://youtu.be/ZhVaSWYcdyQ

Blogger Looking Glass March 14, 2018 11:08 AM  

@52 tz

Given the current state of Argentina, the UK could send the supports of Barnsley FC and win in a rout. The Argentine Navy might not have any working weapons.

Anonymous Anonymous March 14, 2018 11:16 AM  

Ha! Yeah, that’s good stuff.

Blogger Tino March 14, 2018 11:25 AM  

The kerfluffle over expelling the diplomats is not about War With Russia. Nobody is ready for that and already the U.S. has been called out. No one is going to go thermonuclear over a dead spy or two. This is simply a strategic move to set intel collection in the UK back a decade or so.

Blogger tz March 14, 2018 11:48 AM  

It may be that The Russian Oligarchs basically own London, maybe the best parts. The Lion may have obtained its dentures on credit.

The UK: This isn't Aslan, it's Puzzle in a Lion's skin.

Blogger tz March 14, 2018 11:51 AM  

@54 Argentina may lack weapons, but the UK lacks will. Think 4GW. They can't keep Muslim Terrorists from taking over Londonistan. They can stop a few people that would provoke Muslims out at the border. But to project power that far? Do they have a base at the Falkands? A real one?

Blogger bob kek mando - ( I love the smell of Autism on the internet. It smells like ... victoREEEEEEEEE ) March 14, 2018 11:53 AM  

Mrs May said she was determined that the package would 'fundamentally degrade Russian intelligence' capability in the UK.

implicitly admitting that they are PERMITTING Russian intelligence capability within the UK right now.


also suggested that covert reprisals would be undertaken - in an apparent hint at cyber attacks.

i'm given to understand that cyber attacks upon Muh Dumbocracy are an Act of War. so Theresa is going to commit Acts of War upon Russia ... but not actually degrade their military capability?
???
Winning!



Theresa May vowed to expel 23 Russian spies today as she laid out Britain's retaliation over the Salisbury nerve gas outrage. In the biggest diplomatic swipe for decades, the Prime Minister gave the 'undeclared intelligence agents' a week


THAT will show them how serious you are. give them an entire week to pack their luggage. *headdesk*

i'd prefer a Benny Hill routine for Prime Minister. still not funny but at least we'd get titties.


gave the 'undeclared intelligence agents' a week to leave the country and suspended 'all high level contact' with the country.


i see that standards of language comprehension and composition are falling in the UK as well. you don't use the same indeterminate pronoun to reference both opposing parties, especially not within a single sentence.


i was promised a "Battle Plan".

which is a promise that there will be a Battle for which we will have Planned.

i see no evidence that Theresa has any intention of following through on her previous promise ...

where is my Earth shattering kaboom? there was supposed to be an Earth shattering kaboom!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fcaXmpZydI

Blogger tuberman March 14, 2018 11:55 AM  

Looking Glass,

EU.
Enough is enough.
She was warned.
Q

10 to comply.
Choice is yours.
Q+

I assumed this was aimed at Merkel, but could be May. Merkel is some kind of direct kin to Hitler, but need to see more proof. Perhaps in a few days??

Blogger pyrrhus March 14, 2018 12:00 PM  

May and some chickenhawk MPs are talking about pulling out of the World Cup because of this bogus "incident." If so, Ukistan will be banned from the 2022 World Cup as well. That'll go over big with British soccer fans....

Blogger Steve March 14, 2018 12:06 PM  

Yes, the Falkland Islands are pretty well defended.

It would be difficult for the Argies to occupy the place via 4GW means - the Falklands are a godforsaken collection of rocks a thousand miles off the coast of Argentina with a population of about 3,000 people and half a million sheep. There's no urban areas to infiltrate and no welfare state or under-the-table employment to sustain immigrants.

Blogger James Higham March 14, 2018 12:14 PM  

Brittany is posting a video of an interview with Tommy Robinson any time now. Look out for it.

Blogger Looking Glass March 14, 2018 12:15 PM  

@60 tuberman

I think people thought "10 days", but "10", in Q parlance, would almost assuredly be 10 Downing Street, aka the UK PM's office. (Also, Q+? That's interesting.)

This would put two attacks using "gas" by Western but not USA intelligence services in the last year. Now I have to ask if those same services also killed Kim's older brother? (That hit still doesn't make sense.) Actually, if the US & NK do work out some big treaty in the next few months, that pretty much assures it was the same Network involved in all 3 incidents.

Blogger James Higham March 14, 2018 12:19 PM  

Here is that Brittany interview:

https://youtu.be/WnQ3pmDjfkc

Blogger Azimus March 14, 2018 12:23 PM  

Merkel is some kind of direct kin to Hitler

That would be a bit of a challenge since he was a childless Austrian from Salzburg, and her parents were from Berlin and Danzig. But I suppose its possible. Do you have a link?

Blogger Looking Glass March 14, 2018 12:24 PM  

@58 tz

While I don't think the UK could summon up much will, I know if I believe that Argentina could even get their ships to the island. They'd probably have to fly them commercial.

Blogger John Best March 14, 2018 12:24 PM  

Nothing Britain can do to the Russians and NATO won't go war over a poisoned double agents. It is really all being done to cover up the Asians, African and Eastern European crimes in Britain. Mainstream media cares about Russia, Alt-media cares about these people being banned. So nobody covers the mass rape of the British nation. I am forming a defence association all the anti-Islam people just do protests and petitions, we actually need to start giving our people an option to protect them when the state won't. Of course people want to undertake violence right now, but without an organization and community support and good will anything operation will fail and not be sustained. For now all we can do is hold the state accountable and offer our people protection. The avenging hand of the British nation comes later. Britain isn't finish and there are people moving against the forces of evil here, in fact we control an entire province in Northern Ireland.

Blogger Resident Moron™ March 14, 2018 12:29 PM  

@Pyrrhus

You gotta be in to lose.

Blogger Resident Moron™ March 14, 2018 12:31 PM  

This is the same idiot playbook the spooks ised on GWB over Iraq. Just tell the home ck any damned thing.

“But how do they fake the DNA?”

“You don’t fake the DNA; you issue a press release!”

Blogger tuberman March 14, 2018 12:37 PM  

64. Looking Glass

I was switching to your line of thinking after yesterday's happenings, as their are no coincidences. Trump's intelligence people saved May's life (or likely), by alerting her to an assassination attempt that probably would have worked. But the real leaders of the UK seem to have gotten her in line. We'll see.

Q+ is the second occurrence of adding the +. Q is probably a team with a predominate leader, but a least a couple of others, but this is maybe (undoubtedly) another cryptic message too.

Blogger Brett baker March 14, 2018 12:38 PM  

If Kim thought the older brother would replace him after a Chinese-backed coup, the hit makes sense.

Blogger Brett baker March 14, 2018 12:39 PM  

If Kim thought the older brother would replace him after a Chinese-backed coup, the hit makes sense.

Blogger tuberman March 14, 2018 12:40 PM  

68. John Best

Idiot, Of course we do care about the rapes of school girls in the UK. It's why I became interested in the Alt-Right years ago.

Try not to tell other people what they do, or do not think about!

Blogger tuberman March 14, 2018 12:47 PM  

John Best,

If you think you are isolated and on your own, you are not thinking Right. Put in more positive perspective, there are tons of people rooting for you and on your side.

Blogger Anchorman March 14, 2018 12:48 PM  

After what was done at the UN before the Iraq War (Powell with the poster boards), I think Americans are very wary of trusting the Intel Community. Trump was especially skeptical at the time (albeit, you can find times when he supported the actions).

It wouldn't shock me if Russia was clumsy in their assassinations.

Still doesn't rise to the level of committing thousands of lives to achieve...what strategic purpose? What goal is to be accomplished? To stop foreign powers from killing their citizens on home soil?

I'll tell you what the real scandal is and why I think they're distracting the crowds.

How did Russia (presumably) get it into the country or manufacture it without raising alarm bells?

Another colossal failure of the IC.

Blogger John Best March 14, 2018 12:49 PM  

@74

What are you talking about? Also every is 'interest' or 'cares' enough to do totally nothing about it. I will tell other people what I think and what I think should be done. You can keep 'taking an interest' if you like. I am a British Loyalist and Cavalier Tory, the alt-right in Britain has a lot to learn and a lot of work to do, as we all do.

Blogger John Best March 14, 2018 12:51 PM  

@75

Thank you, I appreciate your comment. Same to you and your people as well.

Blogger tuberman March 14, 2018 12:52 PM  

Best,

So "Just Do It"

Blogger James Dixon March 14, 2018 12:53 PM  

> There are reports that Hungary repatriated its gold from London.

They had better check it carefully: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/fake-gold-wafer-rbc-canadian-mint-1.4368801

This isn't the first such incident.

Anonymous Anonymous March 14, 2018 12:55 PM  

Odds are these "assassinations" are just another false flag. Considering how it's all playing according to (((their))) plans, that seems more likely than Putin bumping off some random guys in another country.

Blogger Duke Norfolk March 14, 2018 1:09 PM  

"n fact, the situation may present a golden opportunity for him to tear up the NATO treaty altogether."

Man do I hope you're right, Vox. These people are determined to start WWIII. Let's hope the G-E is indeed able to stop them.

Blogger The Kurgan March 14, 2018 1:14 PM  

Pyrrhus: you got it right

Blogger The Kurgan March 14, 2018 1:18 PM  

It was an American mercenary group that did the Syrian gas attacks. Russia released the emails of the people who did it.
The gay mulatto couldn’t even deny it on live TV the next day.

Blogger Steve March 14, 2018 1:44 PM  

Odds are these "assassinations" are just another false flag.

Dunno. Could be any of the following:

* Putin is basically a Bond baddie and wants people executed in bizarre, high-profile ways so that everyone knows it was him.

* The Russians™ aren't actually a monolithic ant hive and this was some FSB or mafia (assuming there's a difference) plot but nothing to do with the Kremlin.

* MI5/CIA/Mossad false fag.

I reckon these are all plausible scenarios.

Sergei Skripal is a traitor to his homeland who made hundreds of enemies in Russian intelligence and probably elsewhere too. We don't know what he's been up to in England for the past few years, but it probably wasn't flower arranging.

A lot of bad people had good reasons to want to do him harm.

Blogger John (not the pope) March 14, 2018 1:52 PM  

Well...given that she just ANNOUNCED "covert reprisals" does that mean they're not "covert" any more?
Asking for a friend.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 14, 2018 1:58 PM  

I'd say the old crone May is such a feeble joke that some good old Agree & Amplify would about settle her dust.

Blogger Akulkis March 14, 2018 2:07 PM  

A Bond Baddie who is also the most prominent defender of Christianity in all of Europe?

Blogger One Deplorable DT March 14, 2018 2:07 PM  

So if Britain goes to war with Russia it will basically be Russia bombing radical Muslims like they do in Syria, right?

I don't see the problem here. At the very least British teen girls are less likely to get raped by Russian troops than by Paki...I'm sorry, "Asian" Muslim rape gangs.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 14, 2018 2:22 PM  

One Deplorable DT wrote:At the very least British teen girls are less likely to get raped by Russian troops than by Paki...I'm sorry, "Asian" Muslim rape gangs.
Every single East German woman of the 1940s would like a word with you.

Blogger One Deplorable DT March 14, 2018 2:32 PM  

Every single East German woman of the 1940s would like a word with you.

Ah...you got me there.

Blogger Some Guy March 14, 2018 2:37 PM  

I thought this was a country to country shit test when I saw it. I know you don't do Alpha game plan anymore, but I thought it would be interesting to think if women in power subconsciously bring that BS to their jobs of running a country.

Blogger James Dixon March 14, 2018 3:00 PM  

> At the very least British teen girls are less likely to get raped by Russian troops than by Paki...I'm sorry, "Asian" Muslim rape gangs.

"Lie back and think of England." Well, at least any offspring would be white.

Blogger vorlos March 14, 2018 3:07 PM  

God speed, John Best

Blogger John Best March 14, 2018 3:13 PM  

@93 let us not forget what was perpetrated on the East Prussians by the Russians, the same has been happening in Britain, and like with the Germans the Liberals don't care.

Blogger John Best March 14, 2018 3:14 PM  

@94. Thank you, Nam Legatum.

Blogger Demonic Professor El March 14, 2018 3:31 PM  

@89 One Depolorable DT

Yeah, I can't really see the downside of this. In fact, while Eastern Europe is generally distrustful of Russia, they really don't like the British.

That whole constantly betraying Eastern Europe to the Ottomans leaves a sour tasted.

As for the UK government getting bigger powers to fight their wars for them? That's been their policy for a very long time. Aside from World War I, they've never been that great of allies either. Except to Portugal, oddly enough.

My hunch has been, for a while, that the EU would let Turkey in to get money, Muslims, and a counterweight to Russia. Now, I'll bet that the UK stays in the EU and becomes Turkey's sponsor - and historically, the UK preferred Turkey/Ottomans over Eastern Europe and Russia. Now this seems more feasible.

Blogger Jonathon Davies March 14, 2018 3:50 PM  

War fever has now gripped UK papers and MSM. Even though both Trump and Macron say they are waiting for definitive proof. Globalists want to bind us back to the EU. Tjis is their way of doing it.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) March 14, 2018 4:05 PM  

A Bond Baddie who is also the most prominent defender of Christianity in all of Europe?

Orban is a bond villain?

Anonymous Anonymous March 14, 2018 4:30 PM  

As if on cue, (((puppet))) Nikki Haley is now warning that "the Russians" might start assassinating people in NYC.

Wouldn't that be convenient for the narrative?

Hell, why not just nuke Russia right now?

Blogger Mocheirge March 14, 2018 4:52 PM  

Josh (the sexiest thing here) wrote:A Bond Baddie who is also the most prominent defender of Christianity in all of Europe?

Orban is a bond villain?


Give him an eye-patch, and I think it could work!

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim March 14, 2018 4:56 PM  

Daily Mail needs better writers... "low" tensions would be a good thing.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 14, 2018 4:57 PM  

"Daily Mail needs better writers"

Welcome to the club.

Blogger Demonic Professor El March 14, 2018 4:59 PM  

Basically, who doesn't want a Bond villain for their political leaders right now?

Orban, Putin, Trump.

On the other hand, isn't George Soros an actual villain? Helped Nazis (literally), ruins national economies, starts wars, multiple international warrants...

Blogger freddie_mac March 14, 2018 5:01 PM  

Theresa May won't stand up to the European Union and she can't protect British girls from being raped and murdered by third-world invaders

Never fear, the police are on the job, right? Hmm, maybe not.

West Mercia Police Supt Tom Harding said the estimated figures for the scale of child sexual abuse in the town were "sensationalised". "I don't believe Telford is any worse than lots of places across England and Wales," he told the BBC.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/14/telford-child-abuse-figures-sensationalised-police-officer-says/

So, if --- per the police --- Telford isn't any worse than lots of places across England and Wales, what exactly does that say about the state of thinks in the UK?

Blogger Jonathon Davies March 14, 2018 5:07 PM  

Whole thing stinks. It is supposed to be the biggest, baddest nerve agent out there. Yet no one is dead, and people who may have been in contact with it are advised to merely "wash their hands and clothes." Hmmm....

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 14, 2018 6:01 PM  

Probably CS gas or pepper spray.

Anonymous Anonymous March 14, 2018 6:41 PM  

At least this time they didn't contaminate half of Europe with Polonium 210, like they did in the case of Alexander Litvinenko in 2006. No, I do not know who "they" were any more than I know who is behind the present incident.

The difference between the two cases is that Litvinenko was an active thorn in the Russian government's side, while Sergei Skripal was caught spying for the Brits, served his jail time (in Russia), and was then released. If the Russians wanted Skripal dead, they could have killed him any time during the 13 years he was sitting in jail.

Litvinenko, however, was an FSB defector who kept talking about the Moscow apartment bombings and other violent acts inside Russia, which he alleged were a false flag op by the GRU/FSB/TLA. The Russian government allegedly wanted to reopen the war in Chechnya and/or strengthen the desire for a powerful leader like Putin. Thus they sponsored random bombings and events like the Moscow theater hostage taking, all blamed on Chechen terrorists.

Thus, there was actually a motive for circles inside or closely allied to Russian TLAs to kill Litvinenko. No such motive exists for the Russians to have acted in the Skripal case.

Blogger One Deplorable DT March 14, 2018 6:53 PM  

@100 - Hell, why not just nuke Russia right now?

Cue David Hogg: If it saves even one child's life!

Anonymous Anonymous March 14, 2018 7:13 PM  

It is as if the entire West has gone f'ing crazy. Letting in invaders, no, welcoming invaders to rape your women and then trying to start a war with Russia.

Damn, do we not know that Russia has a lot of nukes and the capability of delivering said nukes? F'ing idiots that call for war don't know they could be playing with the end of life as we know it?

Hell, maybe the end of human life altogether. Nuclear war is not a game to be played.

Anonymous Anonymous March 14, 2018 7:25 PM  

Well, the Guardian has what can certainly be called a novel theory for why Skripal was poisoned (https://tinyurl.com/ybatuusd):

Moscow’s covert operation to support Trump during the 2016 US election was a large enterprise. It involved career intelligence officers, cyber-criminals and professional trolls. Only Putin and a few top officials know its full scope. But a wider group of individuals understand parts.

Anyone thinking of cooperating with Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating collusion, will think twice.


There you go, it was all to sabotage the investigations of the intrepid Mueller!

Blogger Lovekraft March 14, 2018 8:08 PM  

O/T but moar winning:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/irving/2018/03/14/clockboy-ahmed-mohamed-lawsuit-irving-isd-city-dismissed

I also recommend this essay. A good read.

https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/03/how-the-gop-establishment-created-the-dissident-right/

Blogger Oliver Cromwell March 14, 2018 8:08 PM  

It is an act of war, though a conventional military response is clearly out of proportion.

A strong government would have started assassinating Russian officials.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 14, 2018 8:11 PM  

Oliver Cromwell wrote:A strong government would have started assassinating Russian officials.
Or, more appropriately, British former spies in Moscow.

Blogger James Dixon March 14, 2018 8:12 PM  

> Nikki Haley is now warning that "the Russians" might start assassinating people in NYC.

Nikki, let me explain this to you: They could kill everyone in NYC and I wouldn't shed a tear. They could even add in the LA/SF metropolitan areas and I wouldn't care. If they added in Chicago, I might manage a faint smile.

Blogger Oliver Cromwell March 14, 2018 8:28 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Oliver Cromwell wrote:A strong government would have started assassinating Russian officials.

Or, more appropriately, British former spies in Moscow.


Yes, if there are any.

It's a worrying breakdown in etiquette all-around. You are not meant to kill people who were traded, because it makes future trades impossible. It's like civilised states starting to kill each others' PoWs.

The significance of the action is that it is Russia signaling that it no longer regards the UK as a civilised state entitled to the considerations usually pertaining to such a status. That's a very dangerous signal to allow to go unpunished.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 14, 2018 8:51 PM  

Oliver Cromwell wrote:It's a worrying breakdown in etiquette all-around. You are not meant to kill people who were traded, because it makes future trades impossible. It's like civilised states starting to kill each others' PoWs.
You're still assuming it was a Russian Op.

Why? Because the May government said so? Are you really that naive?

You've listed 5 reasons it would have been an incredibly stupid and counterproductive thing for the Russians Intelligence Services to do, yet insist on using the frame of the war mongers.

Did the Russians sudden get dumb? Did the Russians forget how to kill someone quietly? Did the Russians suddenly start chewing off their own genitals on public street corners?

False flag is the only frame that makes sense, either American or British.

Blogger Robert Divinity March 14, 2018 8:59 PM  

@112:

Thanks, Lovecraft, for that link. While perhaps overly optimistic it is excellent recruitment material and is on the money about the next shoe that will drop (it's happening slowly now).

Back on topic: odd how these "Russian assassination victims" more or less have fallen off the radar screen. It's almost like a war can't be ginned up any longer. Thanks at least for that one positive development, Jorge.

Blogger Oliver Cromwell March 14, 2018 9:03 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Oliver Cromwell wrote:It's a worrying breakdown in etiquette all-around. You are not meant to kill people who were traded, because it makes future trades impossible. It's like civilised states starting to kill each others' PoWs.

You're still assuming it was a Russian Op.

Why? Because the May government said so? Are you really that naive?

You've listed 5 reasons it would have been an incredibly stupid and counterproductive thing for the Russians Intelligence Services to do, yet insist on using the frame of the war mongers.

Did the Russians sudden get dumb? Did the Russians forget how to kill someone quietly? Did the Russians suddenly start chewing off their own genitals on public street corners?

False flag is the only frame that makes sense, either American or British.


If the Russians did it and they expect the British response to be war, it would have made more sense for them to have done it quietly, or not at all.

If the Russians did it and they expect the British response to be nothing much, it makes sense to do it more or less publicly. It reduces Britain's status and prestige for little real risk, while boosting their own.

Your theory that it's a ploy by a faction within the West to start a war with Russia assumes that Britain will make a very aggressive response. You might be right, but I think it's unlikely. I think what little Britain has done is about the most it will do.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 14, 2018 9:10 PM  

Oliver Cromwell wrote:Your theory that it's a ploy by a faction within the West to start a war with Russia assumes that Britain will make a very aggressive response. You might be right, but I think it's unlikely. I think what little Britain has done is about the most it will do.
That's not my theory. Mine is that it is a naked ploy by the American deep state to keep hysteria ginned up about Russia in hopes it will make Trump look bad, in line with their goal of removing him from office. Once the hysteria ebbs, there will be very little chance of getting it back. Which I hope you will admit is at least as likely as Russia doing something this dumb.
Either may was given her part to play, or, more likely, she was fed the right emotional triggers and is freaking out on her own. Women can be so predictable.

Blogger Lovekraft March 14, 2018 9:12 PM  

It may serve one to go rewatch the Oliver Stone movie "JFK" to get a sense that there were forces behind the scenes then, and no reason to believe there aren't any now.

If we are entering into a new phase of global politics that involve bringing NATO and the U.S. into large-scale military engagement, I will just advise fellow readers and alt-right theorists to keep a tight narrative.

Blogger Oliver Cromwell March 14, 2018 9:13 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Oliver Cromwell wrote:Your theory that it's a ploy by a faction within the West to start a war with Russia assumes that Britain will make a very aggressive response. You might be right, but I think it's unlikely. I think what little Britain has done is about the most it will do.

That's not my theory. Mine is that it is a naked ploy by the American deep state to keep hysteria ginned up about Russia in hopes it will make Trump look bad, in line with their goal of removing him from office. Once the hysteria ebbs, there will be very little chance of getting it back. Which I hope you will admit is at least as likely as Russia doing something this dumb.

Either may was given her part to play, or, more likely, she was fed the right emotional triggers and is freaking out on her own. Women can be so predictable.


OK, so either:

1. Britain is willing to gas its own territory in order to contribute minorly to upholding an American media narrative that is not that of the government

or

2. people within the American government are willing to invade and gas the territory of Britain - at presumably some risk of being caught - in order to commit an act of treason

It does rather seem more likely to me that the Russians just decided to kill a traitor of theirs and humiliate Britain at the same time.

Blogger tuberman March 14, 2018 9:13 PM  

Yes, this was a PF, or Phony Flag, and a sign of the Brit rulers getting desperate. It will go nowhere, as NATO needs USA to do anything. The people who rule the UK are our enemies, as well as the UK common people's enemies. They will be brought down, and there is intense pressure on them Right now to clean up there act, and this stupid crap is a signal they want to stay in power.

Steel was not really retired, and he had the blessings of the highest people in MI6 to try and take down the God Emperor. How pathetic was that?!

Their days are numbered, but they will take it to the limit.

Blogger Robert Divinity March 14, 2018 9:17 PM  

@123:

The UK Establishment is sweating. While they got Zuckerberg to ban the English Defense League today, all they are getting from these "Russian assassinations" is Nikki Haley flapping her arms and giving the God Emperor one more reason to send her packing behind Tillerson.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 14, 2018 10:19 PM  

Oliver Cromwell wrote:OK, so either:
1. Britain is willing to gas its own territory in order to contribute minorly to upholding an American media narrative that is not that of the government
or
2. people within the American government are willing to invade and gas the territory of Britain - at presumably some risk of being caught - in order to commit an act of treason

You are again accepting their frame. if it was the mythical nerve agent that is "5x as deadly as conventional nerve gas", how did it not kill the target? We're talking picograms here. On whose word do you accept that it was a nerve gas? The UK government's? The News media's?
Consider instead that is was an expendable, and expended asset. Nobody likes traitors, especially their handlers. Considering the number of people killed by intelligence agencies around the world on the regular basis, why would they care about this one? You yourself said it would be stupid move by Russia, because it makes future spy swaps infinitely more difficult.
Which is more likely, that a rogue Western operation killed an unimportant Russian that nobody liked in order to achieve their political goal, and then told every lie they could to pin it on Putin, or that the Russians would do this at all.

Stop accepting their frame.

Blogger Oliver Cromwell March 14, 2018 10:25 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Oliver Cromwell wrote:OK, so either:

1. Britain is willing to gas its own territory in order to contribute minorly to upholding an American media narrative that is not that of the government

or

2. people within the American government are willing to invade and gas the territory of Britain - at presumably some risk of being caught - in order to commit an act of treason


You are again accepting their frame. if it was the mythical nerve agent that is "5x as deadly as conventional nerve gas", how did it not kill the target? We're talking picograms here. On whose word do you accept that it was a nerve gas? The UK government's? The News media's?

Consider instead that is was an expendable, and expended asset. Nobody likes traitors, especially their handlers. Considering the number of people killed by intelligence agencies around the world on the regular basis, why would they care about this one? You yourself said it would be stupid move by Russia, because it makes future spy swaps infinitely more difficult.

Which is more likely, that a rogue Western operation killed an unimportant Russian that nobody liked in order to achieve their political goal, and then told every lie they could to pin it on Putin, or that the Russians would do this at all.

Stop accepting their frame.


I'm struggling to understand what you are even claiming here. Do you think there was no attack at all and the story was entirely invented? Or that Skripal was indeed attacked by the US and/or UK governments in a complex conspiracy to bring down the US government - either the UK attacking itself to influence politics in a foreign country to no national advantage, or a totally rouge part of the US government committing an act of war against a treaty ally as part of a treasonous act to depose its own commander in chief?

And I never said it would be a stupid move by Russia. I said it would be a stupid move by Russia if the UK would respond by causing serious damage to Russia, which seems unlikely to me.

Blogger Lazarus March 14, 2018 10:30 PM  

@126

I'm struggling to understand what you are even claiming here.

It is not because what was said was difficult to understand. Think about that for a bit.

Blogger DonReynolds March 14, 2018 10:34 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:Last.

With apologies to Andrew Jackson:

"Mrs May has made her decision, now let her enforce it."

That ought to go as well as the 3 stooges doing the plumbing.


Tomorrow is General Andrew Jackson's birthday, but I am sure you already knew that.

Happy Birthday, Andrew Jackson.
God Bless Him.

Blogger tuberman March 14, 2018 10:36 PM  

Snidley,

Everyone except the shill understands you perfectly, it's just that the NWO biggest lie is the claim that they do not understand.

You do know the poop makes money when you talk to them. What you say is intelligent, but do not talk to the turds, just say what you want without addressing them.

I know, I know, sometimes it's fun, but....

Blogger tuberman March 14, 2018 10:41 PM  

Happy Birthday Andrew!!!

Blogger DonReynolds March 14, 2018 10:49 PM  

Perhaps the solution is to admit Russia to NATO as a full member.

Why? Because NATO is a solution to only one problem.....Soviet invasion of Western Europe. It is a mechanism for coordinating the few military formations of Euro nations with a huge American presence to oppose that invasion.

NATO is strictly a military alliance aimed at the Soviet Union...and maybe, just maybe....the Warsaw Pact nations of Eastern Europe.

NATO is not a diplomatic organization and the goal of NATO is not peace between NATO members. We know this from the inability of NATO to intervene on the island of Cyprus, which was divided between Greek and Turkish occupation for many years. Cyprus was over-run and NATO did nothing to prevent it and nothing to restore the joint occupation of the island.

In short, NATO has no playbook for resolving conflicts between member states and no plans should war break out between member states. NATO would basically dissolve in such a situation.

So go ahead and admit Russia to NATO. They have already made member states of virtually every member of the Warsaw Pact. All we need now is a spark and there will be no NATO.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 14, 2018 11:00 PM  

I'm not sure if the U.K. can do serious damage to
Russia right now.
I even question our ability to at this point.

We can be superior on paper in every way, but could we really endure a serious, protracted war against a competent, committed opponent?

Once our first ranks are decimated, will there be enough replacements to continue the war effort? Certainly conscription is out of the question. How many volunteers would we get?

I guess since I'm a veteran that I feel more comfortable criticizing our armed forces, but we are lucky things went as well as they did in Iraq. I would guess that the situation is much different now.
I'd favor your average Scots-Irish, Pennsylvania to Mississippi 23 year old 2Lt. over his Russian counterpart, but those affirmative action combat arms officers? They've increased in number and they were always horrible when I was in and I'm guessing they are horrible now.

Everything will change once 10,000 American soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines are killed within one month's time span.
If we go by the proxy war in the Ukraine it would be even worse. The Eastern Ukrainians have utterly slaughtered the Westerners. The Westerners now lack field artillery due to the Easterners capturing so much of it, and the Westerners lack armor due to entire tank columns having been destroyed.

Having evil leaders can put a country in a bind, having evil leaders who are also functionally retarded is much worse.

Blogger MycroftJones March 14, 2018 11:08 PM  

I was told by one of the strategy instructors for the British Navy that the two countries, Britain and the USA, are so intertwined, they can't function without each other. If Britain goes to war, the USA could get dragged no matter what the status of NATO is. Trump on the other hand, should be able to put Theresa May in her place.

Blogger MycroftJones March 14, 2018 11:09 PM  

By intertwined, I'm referring to the navies of US and Britain.

Blogger DonReynolds March 14, 2018 11:21 PM  

The United States Army has one armored division....the First Armored Division.
For decades after WWII, it was stationed in West Germany, but was recently relocated.

Where is it parked now?

Fort Bliss (El Paso, Texas)....right in the middle of the Mexican border.

Blogger Dirk Manly March 15, 2018 2:18 AM  

49th Division and 50th Division (both National Guard) are also armored.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 15, 2018 1:04 PM  

Oliver Cromwell wrote:I'm struggling to understand what you are even claiming here.
okay, I'll break it down.
1) what do you know, actually KNOW, about this event?
Wrong.
You don't know anything. You have several reports circulated in the media. Those reports are, every single one of them, based on what was told to a reporter by a government official. Most of those officials work in intelligence.
Intelligence officers don't just lie routinely. They prefer a well-crafted lie to telling the truth.
Here is the report: A soviet defector was attacked on British soil and almost killed by Russian agents using a super-secret nerve agent only the Russian government has access to."
Let's take these one by one.
Was he poisoned? Certainly. It's easy to poison someone and very difficult to fake. Since we're dealing with an entire industry completely without moral compunction, the idea that anybody in the intelligence business would hesitate to kill someone is ludicrous.
He was indeed poisoned, and probably with a nerve poison. it's always good to keep your corroborating witnesses, like doctors, telling the truth. Was the nerve agent a super-secret Russian formula only available to the Russian government? Almost certainly not. It probably wasn't a military nerve gas at all. Military nerve agents are designed to be absorbed readily through the skin and kill with doses in the microgram range. We know it wasn't a military nerve agent because 1) nobody's died yet and 2) the only precaution given by the government was to wash hands if you thought you might have been exposed. Washing your hands after exposure to military nerve agents will do absolutely nothing to protect you.
The idea that there's some super-secret Russian only nerve agent is also bunk. anything the Russians developed in the 1990s is known to Western militaries, and chemical engineering is a developed science.
If the nerve agent is so unknown outside Russia, how on Earth could it be identified almost coincident with the event? An unknown chemical takes some time to categorize under the best circumstances. A highly toxic chemical, in an incredibly small sample, would not be identified within hours, and probably not within days.
Even then, how do you know it's the super-secret Russian chemical, if the Russian nerve agent is so super-secret? Because the MI6 chemical lab issued a press release saying so?
So no, the nerve agent is not super-secret sauce only available to the Russian government.
The likeliest candidate for the poison is ricin. Cheap, easy to synthesize, and relatively safe for your agent to handle, because it doesn't absorb well through the skin, and must typically must be aerosolized to deliver an effective dose.

The target was not a Russian defector. He was a double agent, who was serving time in prison in Russia when he was exchanged for a Russian spy caught by the British. He has not had access to any Russian secrets for a couple of decades. he is worthless, useless and expended as an intelligence asset. Unlike Polonium Man, he was smart enough to keep his head down and not cause trouble for Russia on an ongoing basis.
There was literally no reason for Russia to go after him. None. His use to either side was expended long ago. By killing him, Russia would be breaking established protocol in the intelligence world for absolutely no gain.

So what we have is a Russian national, poisoned in a way to try to make it look like the Russians done it. Who would do that? Who would profit by it? Well, the British Deep State was obviously involved. They're giving television interviews, for Pete's sake. the US Deep State, because they like more hysteria about Russia, which they hope to use against Trump. The Fucking French, as they are known in intelligence circles, because they're the Fucking French and they don't need any other reason to get involved.

Blogger Daniel March 15, 2018 7:11 PM  

Fuck yeah

Blogger Daniel March 15, 2018 7:14 PM  

That's true. We can not even patrol properly to expel the ilegal chinese mega fishing ships in our waters

Blogger Oliver Cromwell March 16, 2018 12:34 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Oliver Cromwell wrote:I'm struggling to understand what you are even claiming here.

okay, I'll break it down.

1) what do you know, actually KNOW, about this event?

Wrong.

You don't know anything. You have several reports circulated in the media. Those reports are, every single one of them, based on what was told to a reporter by a government official. Most of those officials work in intelligence.

Intelligence officers don't just lie routinely. They prefer a well-crafted lie to telling the truth...


Why do you think Skripal is even a real person? It would be much easier to just invent some victim and incident entirely than to posit some ultracomplicated conspiracy involving hundreds of people like this. With this kind of resources, obtaining actual nerve agent is no problem at all. It's not even in the top ten of problems with this plan.

I actually considered the possibility that the attack never happened at all reasonably likely, say 5-10% likely. Maybe 70% likely that it happened more or less as the media state. Your theory, maybe 0.1% likely.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 16, 2018 12:45 AM  

So, stupid it is then. It suits you.

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