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Friday, April 27, 2018

A Nobel for the God-Emperor

There is no question that the next Nobel Peace Prize should go to Donald Trump:
North and South Korea will seek a peace 'regime' to end the 68-year Korean War, their leaders announced today, after Kim Jong-un agreed to a 'complete denuclearisation' during historic talks. Kim became the first North Korean leader to step into the South for 65 years as he met with President Moon Jae-in for a peace summit.

The two sworn enemies exchanged a warm greeting at the 38th parallel in the truce village of Panmunjom before the pair held talks and planted a commemorative tree together. The dramatic meeting has been seen as a precursor to planned talks between Kim and US President Donald Trump next month.

This afternoon, Kim and Moon embraced warmly after signing a statement in which they declared 'there will be no more war on the Korean Peninsula'. The two countries said they will push for talks with the US, and potentially China, to officially end the 1950-53 conflict, which stopped with an armistice and left the Koreas still technically at war.

They also agreed to rid their peninsula of nuclear weapons but did not provide any new specific measures outlining how to achieve the objective.

Kim said: 'We are going to be one again, as we share the same history, the same language, the same culture, the same blood. We are going to happily look back at the hard times in the past when we achieve a new future. No pain, no gain. Let us go forward, step by step for the bright future together.'
This is a staggering development of the sort we have not seen since 1989. I expect the Nobel committee will give the award to Kim and Moon, of course, but the world knows who really deserves it. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Donald Trump is already one of the greatest presidents in the history of the United States of America.

And he hasn't even delivered on either of his signature campaign promises yet. But he will.

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Blogger Al From Bay Shore April 27, 2018 8:11 AM  

"Build the Wall" - That's gonna happen.

"Mexico Will Pay For the Wall" - given what has happened so far, I have no reason to doubt this. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the current president of Mexico and several persons from the US Army Corps of Engineers were spotted in a Home Depot in the near future, and the president is telling a sales associate "Get whatever they ask for."

"Drain The Swamp" - Not only is he doing it (Priestap, a big fish flipped like Sammy the Bull) but it is reasonable to entertain the idea that draining the Swamp involved what we are seeing in the Korean Peninsula, Syria, and will see in Iran.

Blogger #7139 April 27, 2018 8:13 AM  

This is incredible. POTUS Donald J. Trump, Peacemaker.

Blogger Robert Browning April 27, 2018 8:15 AM  

It is evident Trump is intent on reducing the worldwide scope of Americas military. Trump will be removing American forces from the Korea peninsula and removed an America threat to the China motherland. What next Syria?

Blogger Bubba April 27, 2018 8:20 AM  

Why do I have a bad feeling that this is going to wind up costing America a few hundreds of billions of dollars? Uncle Sugar is going to pay, somehow.

Blogger pdwalker April 27, 2018 8:31 AM  

The peace prize is often given to those who are anti-peace. It’d be an insult to the GE.

On the other hand, not giving it to him will make them look more foolish than they already appear.

The GE can’t lose.

Blogger VD April 27, 2018 8:32 AM  

Why do I have a bad feeling that this is going to wind up costing America a few hundreds of billions of dollars? Uncle Sugar is going to pay, somehow.

It will be cheaper than maintaining military forces on the peninsula.

Blogger Henry Lee April 27, 2018 8:36 AM  

Kim will get the prize.

Blogger Nate April 27, 2018 8:41 AM  

Anyone else remember Perestroika? At the time.. all the credit for the Wall coming down was given to the wine stain on Mikhail Gorbacev's forehead.

but by the mid 90s... it was all Reagan... and today?

well today only a handful of us even remember the word Perastroika.


As you say... it will be the same for Trump. For a time the media will do all in their power to give credit to anyone but Trump... but History will not be blind to his actions. Our kids and grandkids will know Trump as a President who did something that could not be done.

Still build the damn wall though.

Blogger Nate April 27, 2018 8:52 AM  

the interesting thing to me.. is that we think of trump as a billionaire that became President... a reality tv star... that became President.

Our grandkids will only think of Trump as a president though. They will learn he was on tv before he was President and they will think that's just an interesting bit of history. He will be defined though by things like what he is accomplishing in Korea.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 27, 2018 8:52 AM  

"Anyone else remember Perestroika?"

Yes, but I'm the most black sheep in that regard, considering I wasn't quite born yet.

Yet more props go to G. Edward Griffin for that neat trick.

Blogger wreckage April 27, 2018 8:55 AM  

Glory to the Emperor!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 27, 2018 8:56 AM  

I guess the "Team B" types will be the most vocal critics, the perpetual war for perpetual peace crazies.

Blogger Iron Spartan April 27, 2018 8:57 AM  

The near panic of Demonrats over this is eminently satisfying, and the message between the two sides and the accomplishments of their standard bearers could not be more clear.

The previous President destabilized the world, empowered dictators and despots, while tearing down America from within.

The God Emperor ended a more than 60 year old war, his firm hand has brought stability to much of the world, while making America a force to be reckoned with again.

All Hail the God Emperor!

Blogger Al From Bay Shore April 27, 2018 9:05 AM  

BREAKING: In a stinging rebuke to Trump, 9th Circuit rules that the Korean War must continue!




[stolen comment from Hot Air]

Blogger Unknown April 27, 2018 9:08 AM  

Don't be taken in by Kim's rhetoric. He know NK can't deliver on its recent threats and promises. He knows he needs to reconcile with SK in case someone calls his bluff. There'll be no nuclear disarmament other than for show any time soon. China and Russia have a predatory glint in their eyes and their sabres are much bigger.

Blogger Tony DeAngelo April 27, 2018 9:09 AM  

What? You mean they should award the NPP based on actually promoting peace and not just for breathing?

OpenID widlast April 27, 2018 9:10 AM  

Quite the accomplishment. It would take an outsider like Trump to pull this off. This will be a great improvement for the North Korean people. Makes will wonder what sort of position Kim would be willing to have, absolute power is a hard thing to give up. Maybe he'll retire to someplace pleasant and eat cheese til he explodes.

Blogger FUBARwest April 27, 2018 9:10 AM  

Obama: Awarded Nobel Peace Prize right when he got elected. Proceeds to be at war every day of his presidency.

Trump: Halfway through his first term is responsible for ending a 60 year war. Wonder who wins the Peace Prize this year...

Wonder what the normies are going to think?

Blogger Nate April 27, 2018 9:18 AM  

God I hope they give the Nobel to Hillary... holy shit that would be funny.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 27, 2018 9:19 AM  

"What? You mean they should award the NPP based on actually promoting peace and not just for breathing?"

I'd take NPP going to people just for breathing 999/1,000 over the people it's actually been going to.

Namely, financier-class persons who live by skimming off the top of their thievery from the American taxpayers to fund tyrannical warlords, despots, and communist dictators in foreign nations.

Blogger McChuck April 27, 2018 9:21 AM  

Sure, we can denuclearize our forces in Korea. After all, that's what sub-launched missiles are for.

Blogger wreckage April 27, 2018 9:30 AM  

@19; a timely reminder that our greatest loyalty is to Kek.

Blogger Killua April 27, 2018 9:36 AM  

Once again, Scott Adams predictions become true. He predicted Trump may achieve something like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9fJpx86pHY

http://newbostonpost.com/2018/03/19/how-dilbert-creator-scott-adams-got-the-trump-north-korea-story-right/

Ever since he predicted Trumps victory I am amazed at how many things this guy gets right which many other "experts" don't.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 27, 2018 9:36 AM  

FUBARwest wrote:Wonder what the normies are going to think?

If they actually thought much, would they remain normies?

Blogger rusty April 27, 2018 9:37 AM  

Off topic, but I thought it was interesting https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-hit-by-perfect-currency-storm-/29185332.html

Blogger Nate April 27, 2018 9:39 AM  

'Wonder what the normies are going to think? "

it is important to remember that normie does not equate to NeverTrump. if it did Trump would've lost. What normie is going to think... is "holy shit that is a great accomplishment. Well done President Trump."

OpenID simplytimothy April 27, 2018 9:45 AM  

Blessed are the peacemakers...

Blogger VD April 27, 2018 9:46 AM  

Ever since he predicted Trumps victory I am amazed at how many things this guy gets right which many other "experts" don't.

Don't be too impressed. He also predicted Trump's loss after the Access Hollywood tape emerged. He likes to hedge his bets.

Blogger Nate April 27, 2018 9:50 AM  

in fact.. we should stop even hedging this. Some of us have been saying "if this or that really works out" but the fact that these two leaders freaking shook hands... met.. and had a real discussion about peace?

That alone was entirely unthinkable just 10 months ago. Not even within the realm of possibility.

So it already IS a historic.. massive accomplishment. if more happens on top of it... that's fantastic... but it is already a win for the ages.

Blogger Sillon Bono April 27, 2018 9:54 AM  

FUBARwest wrote:Obama: Awarded Nobel Peace Prize right when he got elected. Proceeds to be at war every day of his presidency.

Trump: Halfway through his first term is responsible for ending a 60 year war. Wonder who wins the Peace Prize this year...

Wonder what the normies are going to think?


Well they are already saying that it was China who did it.

So yeah, quicky call Obama we need to give him the nobel price... oh wait.

Blogger Longtime Lurker April 27, 2018 9:55 AM  

If Trump wins the Nobel Peace Prize, he should let Secretary Mattis wear it. At least for a day. After all, it was Mattis who applied the requisite degree of military pressure on North Korea. Pompeo just had to show up. And Trump hired them both.

Blogger Sillon Bono April 27, 2018 9:58 AM  

Nate wrote:in fact.. we should stop even hedging this. Some of us have been saying "if this or that really works out" but the fact that these two leaders freaking shook hands... met.. and had a real discussion about peace?

That alone was entirely unthinkable just 10 months ago. Not even within the realm of possibility.

So it already IS a historic.. massive accomplishment. if more happens on top of it... that's fantastic... but it is already a win for the ages.


Kim wants to keep playing with his PlayStation 4, he's pragmatic and knows the regime is in a dead end.

He can have a dignified exit and keep his PlayStation, and at the same time as a bonus North Koreans can do advanced things like eat, have clothing, and cough syrup when they catch a cold.

Blogger Nate April 27, 2018 10:04 AM  

"Kim wants to keep playing with his PlayStation 4, he's pragmatic and knows the regime is in a dead end."

I think the boy wants to be loved. he wants to be admired as a hero. This is how he can get that done.

Blogger Dave April 27, 2018 10:09 AM  

in fact.. we should stop even hedging this. Some of us have been saying "if this or that really works out" but the fact that these two leaders freaking shook hands... met.. and had a real discussion about peace?

That alone was entirely unthinkable just 10 months ago. Not even within the realm of possibility.


It wasn't unthinkable to Trump. I'm more and more convinced between his Main Street economic plan and peace in the ME and this; he's been thinking and scheming for years. He thinks he'll be on Mt. Rushmore eventually.

Blogger Matthew April 27, 2018 10:13 AM  

Welcome back, Nate.

Blogger xavier April 27, 2018 10:16 AM  

I'm floored by tbe development as well.
Strategically does this signify that American troops leave Korea?
Also what does this portend for Chinese-American relations?

xavier

Blogger Al Du Clur April 27, 2018 10:22 AM  

It will be interesting to see if Trump gets any credit or if this, more likely, will be used for his impeachment. Chuck Todd is already saying Trump gave up tot much while Trump says he gave up nothing. The AP and NYT are saying no agreement has been reached. As we have learned with Putin, Putin, Putin and all the other fake news, that if repeated enough times the left will believe it and use it to become more motivated. Since they use everything else for calls for impeachment, I imagine they will use this too. They will likely say the agreement had nothing to do with Trump except that the Koreas were worried about how mentally unstable Trump is which will be used as another reason we need to impeach him!

Blogger Eze Garcés April 27, 2018 10:39 AM  

Don't forget Kissinger

Blogger tuberman April 27, 2018 10:40 AM  

Yea!!

Blogger Anno Ruse April 27, 2018 10:42 AM  

"Don't be too impressed. He also predicted Trump's loss after the Access Hollywood tape emerged. He likes to hedge his bets."

To be fair, Vox, you've had a few blog posts in which you've implied the God-Emperor is ABOUT to cuck. You don't quite come out and say he's going to cuck, or he has cucked, but you're comfortable predicting a possible cucking.

Maybe you and Mister Adams can rub your chromedomes together and try to create a positive thought between the two of ya's. I understand Injuns know how to make fire. That should help.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 27, 2018 10:46 AM  

Hillary will have orchestrated this through the Clinton Foundation with Bill as the behind the scenes go between, when CNN is done with the story.

Blogger Zapp Brannigan April 27, 2018 10:48 AM  

@9

"the interesting thing to me.. is that we think of trump as a billionaire that became President... a reality tv star... that became President."

That is interesting. And you're right: my kids (all under 10) only know Trump as a president. It rolls off their tongues so easily while, even now, it still has a twang of unreality to me. I'm reminded of that scene in Back to The Future when Doc asks Marty who's president in 1985:

"Who's president of the United States in 1985?"

"Ronald Reagan."

"The ACTOR? Then's who's vice-president? Jerry Lewis?"

Blogger Eze Garcés April 27, 2018 10:49 AM  

It wasn't the God-Emperor who conviced Kin it was...Dennis Rodman :v

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 27, 2018 10:52 AM  

This is very true. My kids also only know Trump as president. But they also know who all the Power Rangers are in every one of the 25 different Power Rangers TV shows.

Blogger YIH April 27, 2018 10:53 AM  

Unknown wrote:Don't be taken in by Kim's rhetoric. He know NK can't deliver on its recent threats and promises. He knows he needs to reconcile with SK in case someone calls his bluff. There'll be no nuclear disarmament other than for show any time soon. China and Russia have a predatory glint in their eyes and their sabres are much bigger.
I too am skeptical, all this reminds me of the old saw ''if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is''.
I'm wondering what Kim Jong Un gets out of this, possibly the lifting of sanctions (which due to China haven't really been much of a hindrance anyway) and some good PR for NK. There is also the issue that those who have given up their weapons programs, lived (or more accurately, died) to regret it.

Blogger Resident Moron™ April 27, 2018 10:54 AM  

xavier wrote:I'm floored by tbe development as well.

Strategically does this signify that American troops leave Korea?

Also what does this portend for Chinese-American relations?

xavier



Free trade may not be good for everyone but endless war is bad for everyone?

Blogger Blume April 27, 2018 10:59 AM  

Nate to be fair most people wanna be the hero. His family always had a shot at it but let pride get in the way. He might be trying for a British royal family exit. It would mesh well with the northern kim family worship. Maybe the Trump presidency combined with the political troubles in the south have lead him to believe there is a shot at that now.

Blogger English Tom April 27, 2018 11:01 AM  

Not really. This deal just frees up the US to focus exclusively on solving the Iran question. They can always renege on this putative Korea deal if/When it suits them.

Blogger Peaceful Poster April 27, 2018 11:10 AM  

I will be sporting my Trump shirt this weekend.

Blogger Dave April 27, 2018 11:35 AM  

This is very true. My kids also only know Trump as president.

ESPN was playing a clip last night of Bill Clinton at one of the NBA playoff games. As he was walking into the tunnel he was stopping to pose with people for pics. A mother in the stands had her son and daughter pose with Clinton for a pic. Then as Clinton walked away you could clearly see the little girl mouth the words "who was that?" to her mother. Time keeps on rolling into the future.

Blogger Dire Badger April 27, 2018 11:57 AM  

The Nobel Prizes now have all the same value as the Hugo and Nebula Awards.

Blogger Dire Badger April 27, 2018 12:12 PM  

Dave wrote:in fact.. we should stop even hedging this. Some of us have been saying "if this or that really works out" but the fact that these two leaders freaking shook hands... met.. and had a real discussion about peace?

That alone was entirely unthinkable just 10 months ago. Not even within the realm of possibility.


It wasn't unthinkable to Trump. I'm more and more convinced between his Main Street economic plan and peace in the ME and this; he's been thinking and scheming for years. He thinks he'll be on Mt. Rushmore eventually.


He belongs there. We should knock off Lincoln's face and replace it.

Blogger Katusov April 27, 2018 12:14 PM  

I am cautiously optimistic. Deals to end conflict have fallen through before. It would be great if Trump can get it done.

Blogger Duh-ave April 27, 2018 12:15 PM  

Kim is in a tough position. If he eases up (even a little) the foot pressure he has on the throat of his people they may well jump up and bite his. The possibility must be on his mind. His best hope is exile with a pile of cash.

Blogger Harris April 27, 2018 12:26 PM  

My first candidate of choice was Scott Walker. When he quit, I migrated to Rick Perry, and then we he quit, I migrated to Ted Cruz. I doubted the sincerity of Trump - bigtime. But unlike Never-Trumpers, I celebrated his victory, and in hindsight, I believe ONLY Trump was capable of overcoming the built-in system bias in favor of Hillary.

Trump has truly exceeded my wildest expectations. His style may still sometimes be uncomfortable, but that has turned out to be a BIG positive, unnerving his (our) opponents and enemies alike. Congratulations to Trump for a momentous world-changing victory. It's refreshing to have a man leading this nation that actually believes in the nation as a force of good, and fights to protect its integrity.

Blogger Ingot9455 April 27, 2018 12:35 PM  

If you're down with the Q, the CIA/Globalists were heavy North Korea backers - so as to have an enemy to fight to keep paying their salaries et al.
No more CIA backing, a few nuclear silo 'accidents' to back it up, and suddenly the handwriting is on the wall.

(To add. North Korean flagged ships were used for all kinds of illegal contraband for a good long time, to say nothing of their extensive counterfeiting operations.)

Blogger Scott April 27, 2018 12:40 PM  

Nate wrote:Anyone else remember Perestroika? At the time.. all the credit for the Wall coming down was given to the wine stain on Mikhail Gorbacev's forehead.

but by the mid 90s... it was all Reagan... and today?

well today only a handful of us even remember the word Perastroika.



I would recommend the book Revolution 1989: The Fall of the Soviet Empire by Victor Sebestyen. Reagan definitely played a role. Gorbachev's contribution was more about the mistakes he and his predecessors made.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 27, 2018 12:45 PM  

Also read New Lies for Old, by Golitsyn.

Blogger Brett baker April 27, 2018 12:45 PM  

I've been predicting a US-DPRK mutual defense treaty ever since I heard the God-Emporer was going to meet Kim.

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Blogger Volpack April 27, 2018 1:22 PM  

Walker, Perry or Cruz couldn't have done this.

Blogger Nate April 27, 2018 1:30 PM  

"I would recommend the book Revolution 1989: The Fall of the Soviet Empire by Victor Sebestyen. Reagan definitely played a role."

....

/facepalm

Blogger Scott April 27, 2018 4:00 PM  

@Nate

Care to elaborate on that reaction?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 27, 2018 4:17 PM  

"Also read New Lies for Old, by Golitsyn."

Have, so long ago I've forgotten about half of it.

Blogger James Dixon April 27, 2018 4:57 PM  

> Kim is in a tough position. If he eases up (even a little) the foot pressure he has on the throat of his people they may well jump up and bite his.

Not if he can offer then a fraction of the prosperity South Korea has. Reunification would do that. It would be a long process and involve him eventually stepping down, but if his people actually did love him for it, he might be able to live with that.

> ...and in hindsight, I believe ONLY Trump was capable of overcoming the built-in system bias in favor of Hillary.

Agreed. No one else could have beaten the Hillary machine. As I told dh at the time, Trump was the best hope and Hillary was the worst candidate. If he couldn't win, no Republican could.

Blogger James Dixon April 27, 2018 5:00 PM  

> Care to elaborate on that reaction?

"...Reagan definitely played a role" is damming with faint praise. It was almost all his doing.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 27, 2018 5:06 PM  

@34

"It wasn't unthinkable to Trump. I'm more and more convinced between his Main Street economic plan and peace in the ME and this; he's been thinking and scheming for years. He thinks he'll be on Mt. Rushmore eventually."

I'd vote for replacing the undeserving Teddy Roosevelt's mug with Trump's face right now.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 27, 2018 5:14 PM  

@36

"I'm floored by tbe development as well.
Strategically does this signify that American troops leave Korea?
Also what does this portend for Chinese-American relations?"

The best way to see that this doesn't somehow turn into a new Korean war is for US and Chinese troops to be spread throughout both halves of the peninsula, for say, 10(?) years, as peace keepers, maybe teams of 8 (2 US, 2 Chinese, 2 NK, and 2 SK). With both backers' troops spread from end to end throughout the peninsula, and in close contact with each other, preferably operating out of the same bases, this should mimimize any opportunity for anyone to stir up any belligerency. It also gives substantial time for both governments to properly merge, and for the old ways to be allowed to pass away.

A lot of NK's are going to be shocked that SK's and US troops aren't the monsters that they constant propaganda has presented.

Blogger Duke Norfolk April 27, 2018 5:28 PM  

Dire Badger wrote:He belongs there. We should knock off Lincoln's face and replace it.

Seconded!

Blogger seeingsights April 27, 2018 7:26 PM  

It's also great PR for Trump. When a US president promotes peace, the media--including the old media-displays it prominently. Nixon going to China made the front page of newspapers. Reagan saying that the US and Russia would join forces to repel an extraterrestrial threat was broadcast on TV.

Blogger toadold April 27, 2018 11:06 PM  

What would be cool if Trump wins the prize would be if he sent Sec. Def. Mattis to pick it up.

Blogger Bobiojimbo April 28, 2018 1:04 AM  

Trumpslide 2020.

Blogger Scott April 28, 2018 2:00 AM  

James Dixon wrote:> Care to elaborate on that reaction?

"...Reagan definitely played a role" is damming with faint praise. It was almost all his doing.


Ah, I see. Taken from the standpoint of what world leaders were doing to try to bring about the collapse of Soviet communism, sure, I agree, far more than Thatcher did, for example. I was more balancing his contribution against the many failures of communism itself and the actions of resistance figures like Lech Walesa and Laszlo Tokes. The latter's refusal to stop preaching in the face of threats from Ceausescu's regime precipated the events that led to the otherthrow of communism. Even the fall of the Berlin Wall itself came about when it did due to a bureaucratic mistake.

What Trump did in North Korea was something else entirely. Not only did he put real pressure on North Korea and break their cycle of threats and appeasement, but he actively negotiated peace. I don't think Reagan could have done that.

Blogger Scott April 28, 2018 2:01 AM  

I meant to say ...precipated the events that led to the otherthrow of communism in Romania.

Blogger Meimou April 28, 2018 4:24 AM  

Harris
My first candidate of choice was Scott Walker. When he quit, I migrated to Rick Perry, and then we he quit, I migrated to Ted Cruz. I doubted the sincerity of Trump - bigtime. But unlike Never-Trumpers, I celebrated his victory, and in hindsight, I believe ONLY Trump was capable of overcoming the built-in system bias in favor of Hillary.

Not Rand Paul? You started at Walker? Jesus. Universal suffrage at work.

Blogger xavier April 28, 2018 4:57 AM  

Resident moron

Thanks. That's helpful

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia April 28, 2018 1:33 PM  

@VD
"Don't be too impressed. [Scott Adams] also predicted Trump's loss after the Access Hollywood tape emerged. He likes to hedge his bets."

As a smart guy does.

I think SA has recalibrated his thinking about the negative effects of the GE's sexual attitudes/behavior -- i.e, that if had/has the change to f--k a beautiful woman, he probably did/will do it, being the Alpha/Sigma type he is, and it won't make a damn bit of difference to his followers.

See his recent periscopes on Stormy Daniels.

It would interesting to calculate SA's percentage accuracy on his Trump predictions. My guess it's north of 50%, which would make it more than just mere chance, but it's just a guess.

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. April 28, 2018 3:01 PM  

Yes. And this explains why he signed that horrible omnibus bill

Blogger Lamarck Leland April 29, 2018 10:35 PM  

I can see Trump winning the Nobel Peace Prize if he goes to war against Iran and Russia.

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