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Friday, April 06, 2018

Compare the narratives

Austin Bay considers the Seven Chinas grand narrative.
Nations have always used narratives to support their diplomatic operations. Not all of them are "weaponized," but a powerful, moving story gives a diplomatic initiative additional energy. Often these narratives incorporate nation or ethnic historical and cultural themes. Since they support a diplomatic initiative, they are always political.

In February, the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies published a short paper entitled "Seven Chinas: A Policy Framework." The paper briefly examined "seven identities" that the Chinese government uses to "shape and justify policy."

Each identity is a narrative.

China 1: Self-sufficient civilization (We generate our own values)

China 2: Most humiliated nation (Our senior civilization, conquered and despised)

China 3: Leader of the developing world (Late developing China leads developing nations)

China 4: Champion of plurality (We are ending Western/American hegemony)

China 5: Sovereign survivor (We survived the collapse of Communism because we are unique)

China 6: Last man standing (The West is declining while our wealth is increasing)

China 7: Herald of the high frontier (China and shares the global trade and communications commons)

In the South China Sea China's narrative weapons have augmented its military and economic clout. It's proved to be a powerful combination.
Compare these to the ever-shifting globalist and SJW narratives that have replaced the traditional Western narrative. It is eminently clear that in any matchup of these particular weaponized narratives, China is not merely winning, China is going to win.

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Blogger Nate73 April 06, 2018 1:08 PM  

Do us whites have a chance of immigrating to china for a better life at this point?

Blogger Aquila Aquilonis April 06, 2018 1:14 PM  

The Ottomans are gone but the Turks live on.

Blogger lazlo azavaar April 06, 2018 1:43 PM  

Stories are fun.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 06, 2018 1:44 PM  

"China 2: Most humiliated nation (Our senior civilization, conquered and despised)"

Gamma Secret-King China

Blogger David The Good April 06, 2018 1:47 PM  

Nate73 wrote:Do us whites have a chance of immigrating to china for a better life at this point?

They generally tolerate us but think we're idiots. Fitting in there would be almost impossible. There's a level of hivemind you can't fake, and you will always be foreign.

Blogger Nate April 06, 2018 1:51 PM  

"China is not merely winning, China is going to win."

when?

I mean we've been hearing this crap for 30 years now. And yet somehow China still can't manage to actually feed itself.

Broken record is broken.

Anonymous Anonymous April 06, 2018 1:53 PM  

@1 Their culture is VERY DIFFERENT from that of an American (or anyone from the West). They're also not very tolerant of Christianity or any type of independent thinking.

Blogger Orthodox April 06, 2018 1:58 PM  

Gamma Secret-King China

To some extent yes, but it really is pathetic considering how they think of themselves. Imagine 50 years from now, the USA is invaded by Costa Rica, Congo and Burmese troops who crush our military, burn down the White House and loot our natural resources. That would burn for centuries.

Blogger Damn Crackers April 06, 2018 2:00 PM  

I read (maybe here) that China is basing their nation on the grandeur of 1950s U.S. It's not a bad model to emulate.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) April 06, 2018 2:10 PM  


I read (maybe here) that China is basing their nation on the grandeur of 1950s U.S. It's not a bad model to emulate.


In order to emulate that model you have to destroy the industrial capacity of the rest of the world and kill millions of people.

Blogger Chase April 06, 2018 2:12 PM  

And who would want to, really? No one feels fully at home and comfortable in an alien nation. Look at the Jews: being in semi-hostile states for most of their existence has had profound evolutionary impacts. Ones that I would not consider positive, even if I were Jewish.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 06, 2018 2:21 PM  

David The Good wrote:They generally tolerate us but think we're idiots. Fitting in there would be almost impossible. There's a level of hivemind you can't fake, and you will always be foreign.

Not just almost impossible. Chinese is a race, and you aren't in it.

Anonymous Anonymous April 06, 2018 2:22 PM  

In order to emulate that model you have to destroy the industrial capacity of the rest of the world and kill millions of people.

"Yeah, so?"
---Xi Jianping

Blogger Johnny April 06, 2018 2:30 PM  

If the Chinese had been more expansionist oriented they would have become the dominant race group two and a half millennium ago. They were the most advanced civilization and had the numbers to do it.

The best outcome for us is for the country to self hobble itself with a self serving leadership. Along with a lack of innovation, that is the core problem with the hive mind.

Blogger Nate April 06, 2018 2:33 PM  

remember... for all of its increased output china's agriculture is facing a lot of really big problems. China is expected to become a net food importer in the next few years.

Blogger 罗臻 April 06, 2018 2:41 PM  

My take having lived there for a number of years: you wouldn't like it if you were a Baizuo, but you have much more freedom of speech and thought as long as you're not criticizing the government. You would be more limited economically than a Chinese in the USA, you'd have to really "buy in" to the CCP and probably marry a Chinese to be allowed to get really rich. You'd do much better socially than Asians in the U.S. relative to your economic status.

Chinese are civilized and treat guests well, they're more open to foreigners than Korea or Japan from what I've heard. I wouldn't want to be there in the midst of a trade war though. When their mobs get going, they really get going.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd April 06, 2018 3:02 PM  

You will never fit in. The staring they do will be as constant at the end of a year living there as it is at the end of the first week.

You're very much in high demand by girls over there, though, so if you're looking to try to weasel around self-improvement and still want a thin girlfriend, it's easy to do there.
Which is why westerners who live in Asia are often the worse people period. Nearly all are gammas.
If you're a decent, normal American man, these guys will betray you to no end. You're better off just being around Han women. I wouldn't want to have kids with one, but if you're not yet responsible enough for marriage, they are very fun to run around with, because they don't have a trace of masculinity in them, which is refreshing in a girl. They're actually less fickle than these hardcore gamma expats, though, if you can believe it. Obviously not all expat are gamma. I was an expat myself. Just pointing out the majority.
It's a great trip for a young guy in his 20s, or even to do research there, because of the deep antiquity of their civilization, but trying to live a normal life there would be impossible. Fortunately, after a couple weeks you understand why a "normal life" there is undesirable to 99% of westerners.

Blogger Brick Hardslab April 06, 2018 3:02 PM  

Poland, Hungary, Czech republic, who else is western and Christian? Idaho and Montana are great but will the left coast malignancy spread further than Colorado?

Blogger Wynn Lloyd April 06, 2018 3:10 PM  

What province are you in, if you don't mind my asking.
I was in Sichuan. When I got back, I was putting extra hot sauce on Cajun food ha.

Could you imagine being Japanese there when a mob is forming?

Https://jalopnik.com/5944170/all-japanese-must-be-killed-proclaims-sign-allegedly-in-front-of-chinese-audi-dealership

Wonder if that was a successful sales tactic.

Blogger freddie_mac April 06, 2018 3:21 PM  

All of the Seven Chinas -- including #2 -- have a strong sense of self identity and history. The West, otoh, has tossed those very elements into the ash heap of history.

@10 Josh (the sexist thing here)
In order to emulate that model you have to destroy the industrial capacity of the rest of the world and kill millions of people.

China's already done the second part of that (not counting their missing girls), and with free trade they're working on the first part too.

If the West continues down the road of self-hatred, I can see China succeeding, not necessarily because China is better but because they're willing to do anything to reach their objective.

@18 Brick Hardslab
will the left coast malignancy spread further than Colorado?

Honestly not sure. Wyoming is mostly live and let live, sparsely populated, so it tends to get ignored. There's only two big cities, and you need to get used to being on the end of the supply line.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville April 06, 2018 3:24 PM  

I read (maybe here) that China is basing their nation on the grandeur of 1950s U.S. It's not a bad model to emulate.

You mean Ward Zing Hua, his wife June and little Bleaver?

Blogger Avalanche April 06, 2018 3:27 PM  

OT: Listening to the 'cat' at Truth Factory.

She says:
The kids are blaming the NRA for "selling arms" even though they don't; but not complaining about Planned Parenthood even though THEY DO!

Blogger Jeff aka Orville April 06, 2018 3:30 PM  

China can find lebensraum in Africa, and they are already setting up bases there. Africa is low hanging fruit. My three book sf series coming out this fall has China depopulating Africa with a virus as a historical background to the story.

I could totally see the PRC doing such a thing.

Blogger lowercaseb April 06, 2018 3:45 PM  

@23 sorry to slightly threadjack, but can you give a link to your books? Sounds like an interesting read.

Blogger Shane Farrell April 06, 2018 3:50 PM  

What can be done to stem the tide though Vox? In previous posts you've stated the Alt Right is inevitable as it will replace the moderate conservative token party, but can they get to power and put the West on a path to restoration? It does seem like a tall order. Samuel Huntington believed that in Great Power politics China could be the biggest player in the history of Man but that there was huge scope for a renewal of Western Civiliation. Can we regain the drive or do we become like modern Greece, a proud history but irrelevance.

Anonymous Anonymous April 06, 2018 4:01 PM  

the Alt Right is inevitable as it will replace the moderate conservative token party, but can they get to power and put the West on a path to restoration?
Not ALL of it. Some parts are too far gone and the cancerous cells need to be cut off to wither and die.

Blogger Crew April 06, 2018 4:10 PM  

@23: Seven Kill Tiger!

Blogger Duke Norfolk April 06, 2018 4:23 PM  

It's like they're actually adults, vs the silly children with their delusional nonsense.

Anonymous Anonymous April 06, 2018 4:23 PM  

My three book sf series coming out this fall has China depopulating Africa with a virus as a historical background to the story.I could totally see the PRC doing such a thing.

I am working on a book that has China depopulate Africa after declaring that has black's ovaries are the new rhino horn.

"In the 5 years since the discovery that squatonium, (only exists in niggerette ovaries that lets blacks squat out 20+ crack babies)extends life in everyone else, China has eradicated blacks in 1/3 of Africa."

To Whom it may Concern:
The plague is far worse here than anyone in the media is letting on. The numbers are mind boggling. And yet we will not give up. We will continue to fight. You have our vow that we will rid the continent of the negro infestation.
Sincerely,
Ebola

Blogger Crew April 06, 2018 4:31 PM  

Chinese organization -- a type of self-sufficiency -- helped the Peoples Republic avoid a Soviet Union-type collapse.

My take here is that there wasn't much of value in China prior until recently that it was worth while for the globalists to try to loot.

That is, pure dumb luck on the part of the Chinese.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville April 06, 2018 5:15 PM  

lowercaseb, you can sign up for my mailing list at www.RedPillWriter.com and get advanced notice. Releasing all three books 30 days apart this fall.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants April 06, 2018 5:43 PM  

China<Japan

All day, every day.

Blogger Unknown April 06, 2018 5:47 PM  

Compare these to the ever-shifting globalist and SJW narratives that have replaced the traditional Western narrative.

What Is this "Western narrative" you speak of? The West has never been a place where not even five ideas have prevailed above all others. Unless you include 'freedom in our built environment under our government and economy encouraged by our superior weaponry'. Or perhaps the 'themas' of the church of Rome prior to Vatican II, under which popes had almost total control over the narrative on pain of death, purgatory and/or hell.

Which is rather making my point: the West is the West only because there is no dominant narrative. Certainly people have tried to claim there is, but you can find many more who have eviscerated it according to whatever competing philosophy they hold. One could qualify the "replaced Western narrative" to the nth degree, for example 'freedom' or 'just' goverment or 'denocracy', but there are strong arguments on either side of those claims. The Western narrative is an ongoing, interminable, pseudoscientific metaphysical, socio-economic debate. Basically, people of the West agree on nothing.

Some might argue 'Christendom' could qualify, but it was never a coherent narrative, given the bloodiness of Western history between its own people. There has never been a time in the West when Christendom meant the same thing to everyone. It rather neatly explains why we find ourselves looking at China's (and Russia's) balls of steel and lamenting ours of clay.

Blogger 罗臻 April 06, 2018 5:48 PM  

@17

I was in Hebei and Beijing. I also got into the hot sauce, but Sichuan still burns my mouth off. I was there when the anti-Japanese protests formed in 2005. They told the Japanese students to say they were Korean and to keep a low profile. Those were relatively organized protests, seemed like the CCP was behind it. 2012 was riots. Lots of signs and bumper stickers declaring Diaoyu Islands are China's and "no Japanese" signs at restaurants.

Chinese protested KFCs a couple years ago because of some South China Sea ruling that few in the USA even heard about. I can only imagine what's going to happen to high-profile American brands like McDonald's in a trade war.

Blogger Almodavar April 06, 2018 6:50 PM  

Things are heating up.

Finally, the GE unleashed.

Blogger Crew April 06, 2018 6:56 PM  

Someone thinks that China can win in one!

https://theweek.com/articles/765276/how-china-win-trade-war-1-move

Blogger Matamoros April 06, 2018 7:23 PM  

Compare the narratives
Austin Bay considers the Seven Chinas grand narrative.

Nations have always used narratives to support their diplomatic operations. Not all of them are "weaponized," but a powerful, moving story gives a diplomatic initiative additional energy. Often these narratives incorporate nation or ethnic historical and cultural themes. Since they support a diplomatic initiative, they are always political.

In February, the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies published a short paper entitled "Seven Chinas: A Policy Framework." The paper briefly examined "seven identities" that the Chinese government uses to "shape and justify policy."

Each identity is a narrative.

China 1: Self-sufficient civilization (We generate our own values)

China 2: Most humiliated nation (Our senior civilization, conquered and despised)

China 3: Leader of the developing world (Late developing China leads developing nations)

China 4: Champion of plurality (We are ending Western/American hegemony)

China 5: Sovereign survivor (We survived the collapse of Communism because we are unique)

China 6: Last man standing (The West is declining while our wealth is increasing)

China 7: Herald of the high frontier (China and shares the global trade and communications commons)

In the South China Sea China's narrative weapons have augmented its military and economic clout. It's proved to be a powerful combination.

Compare these to the ever-shifting globalist and SJW narratives that have replaced the traditional Western narrative. It is eminently clear that in any matchup of these particular weaponized narratives, China is not merely winning, China is going to win.


I will disagree. China at the moment is where Japan was prior to their crash. And where are they now?

China outside the big cities is still in the middle ages without running water and flush toilets. Heck, when I was in China (several cities) in the mid-2000s, they big cities were just getting flush toilets in government buildings and public facilities, like western style restaurants.

China cannot maintain upward momentum, they are going to crash big time due to the internal haves vs. have nots, cities and countrysides; not to mention their being in many ways matriarchal.

When Japan became too big, the powers that be, ((())) or not, began building up China to replace them. Now India is being built up to replace them, with Indonesia in the wings.

George Friedman's The Next Hundred Years predicts a war between China and a remilitarized Japan (built up militarily by us) that defeats China; and begets a whole new bag of problems.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales April 06, 2018 7:26 PM  

@33

Not sure if serious or poop. Recommend burning this heretic at the stake though and those who talk like him, if its all the same to folks here.

Blogger MendoScot April 06, 2018 8:04 PM  

The Century of National Humiliation 1839-1949
百年国耻
Look it up.

The War of Northern Aggression.

[The Deep State's War in the Middle East].

People don't forget.

Blogger Hammerli280 April 06, 2018 8:16 PM  

China is very reminiscent of Wilhelmine Germany. Rising Great Power, a bit late in developing, and very much wanting tokens of status. And with a chip on their shoulder in many ways.

They're like Germany in another way...geography doesn't favor them. Their major shipping lanes go either East to the USA, or through the Straits of Malacca and the Indian Ocean. The PLAN can talk all they want about the Inner Island Chain, the USN can and will set up interdiction in the Indian Ocean. The same way that the Royal Navy interdicted German shipping in the North Sea during the First World War.

Just as long as we don't get involved in the equivalent of Flanders' fields. Which is a definite threat...Goldwater-Nichols is no friend to good strategic thinking.

Blogger (((Rambam))) April 06, 2018 8:21 PM  

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Blogger David The Good April 06, 2018 8:24 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:David The Good wrote:They generally tolerate us but think we're idiots. Fitting in there would be almost impossible. There's a level of hivemind you can't fake, and you will always be foreign.

Not just almost impossible. Chinese is a race, and you aren't in it.


You're right on that. I'm only talking about the bare basics of "fitting in," not as in total integration. I live in a foreign nation myself and know I'll never really "fit" for both racial and cultural reasons. You can fit enough to get a drink with the locals or speak the local language, but that's it. You can be a good guest but not a native. Chinese thinking is almost completely alien to Westerners, though I greatly enjoy speaking with the few who live here. I grew up among Chinese international students and scholars. Our Christian Chinese friends have been a huge blessing to my family - but in almost everything, they are Chinese first.

Blogger Johnny April 06, 2018 8:37 PM  

If the Chinese were more expansionist, they would have taken over much of the world two and a half millennia ago. At that time they were the most advanced culture and had the population numbers need for a lot of expansion.

I doubt our Western Cultures can consistently oppose the Chinese if they stay with their plans. The best outcome for us would be for the country to get hobbled by a corrupt and self serving leadership. Given their group think approach and regimentation, that could easily happen.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd April 06, 2018 9:10 PM  

That sounds interesting. A mutated AIDS, or something more exotic?
The Africans are sitting on so many untouched resources. Sooner or later the temptation will probably to great for China and they'll seize direct government.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd April 06, 2018 9:12 PM  

Squatonium is the perfect name for it.

Blogger (((Rambam))) April 06, 2018 10:46 PM  

@33
BanHammer countdown initiated at 5:48 p.m.
This is an exclusive club, and you won ain't in it Bro. Do you like comics by chance?

Blogger The Stygian April 06, 2018 10:57 PM  

Arm Japan with nukes and problem is solved. China is its own worst enemy. If Ghengis khan couldn't capture the west the pussy ass commies have no chance, so get your ass back in there and make me my sweet and sour chicken bitch.

Blogger DonReynolds April 06, 2018 11:05 PM  

The Chinese I have known in my lifetime have always be perfectly delightful people. Never a problem. What they might be like when all of my neighbors are Chinese, I had rather not speculate. For the most part, I would hope to simply be ignored and tolerated to some extent. I know they can be aggressive, as can any other human society.

The point that must be made is that the Chinese see themselves as the center of the world... and the most civilized of all the people...and they may be. All the other nations of the world are (to them) along the periphery of China or merely the hinterland of China.

There was never a time when China tried to conquer the world and I do not expect them to in the future, simply because they do not want barbarians to be part of China or to share their country with "foreign devils".

That is not to say that the Chinese would not deliberately cultivate foreign places (like Afrika) in order to have easy access to foreign resources. No doubt they have and will in the future. They would consider it shrewd to win without fighting a battle, especially if only patience was required. Patience was invented in China.

Blogger (((Rambam))) April 06, 2018 11:17 PM  

Lived next door to Chinese for 25 years. Good friends and neighbors. Never bothered our pets.

Blogger The Stygian April 06, 2018 11:21 PM  

Did any pets disappear, say right before a major Chinese festival because they love dog meat in certain parts of the country.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf April 06, 2018 11:37 PM  

Yes you can immigrate, but I don't know if you'll find a better life awaiting you in China. If you're an expert and can speak from 8:00 until 5:00 in 40 min intervals with a 2 hour break, 4 days a week, you could earn $2.5 to 5K per week. That's quite common.

China is a place where beautiful 5 star hotels sit next to open trench-style lavatories.
With ease.
The atmosphere is crushing IMO. If you've lived out of hotels, maybe you could hack it? Personally, other than a once in awhile side-gig or means of making connections, I'd suggest making a life in the USA. That said, a young man could find China fun for a few years assuming you had no other good options. My time in China is from the perspective of an expert. I bring gifts and receive them in return. If I don't want to go out drinking I say as much. For gifts I like to bring wines, unique foods, children gifts if they have kids.

If you're not an expert, then you're pretty much going on your unique looks and command of English. I wouldn't expect much. More like an backpacking adventure. Which could be fun I suppose?

Generally Whites are liked by E. Asians both for our once great past accomplishments and culture but also aesthetically - when ideal. We're beautiful people. It's not uncommon for both men and women to speak of your lovely eyes, etc.... You know, like an exotic animal.

LOL

That said, Whites will never be accepted as a separate group inside any E. Asian EthnoState. The most one could hope for is to marry into a family and your children and their children may be accepted. In time for sure.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 06, 2018 11:41 PM  

David The Good wrote:Chinese thinking is almost completely alien to Westerners ...

They have very different expectations, and that leads them to see very different incentives in the same situations.

I suspect that when the Han nation becomes culturally Christian, they will seem far less alien to Westerners. Christianity will ease the zero-trust clannishness, at least. Of the several non-White races, the Han may be the least alien, or maybe they're just the smartest and most able to blend when they're among us.

Blogger Jack Amok April 07, 2018 2:23 AM  

China's problem is it's full of Chinese (where as America's problem is it's full of !Americans!). They're clannish, low trust people who think it's not only justified but admirable to rip off someone outside their clan. I think they lost the bulk of their high-trust gene pool to Korea and Japan thousands of years ago.

Yes you can immigrate, but I don't know if you'll find a better life awaiting you in China

Granted, all my time in China was in Beijing and maybe other cities are better, but I would never want to live there. The whole place smelled like old dishwater. Like a slow-moving kitchen drain. Not an overpowering stench, just a low-grade background micro-aggression against your sense of smell.

I'd rather live in Minsk or Kiyv than Beijing. They have their problems (the background smell there comes from the Russian petrol they burn in their cars, sweet and sticky), but the people, though different than westerners, are not as alien or barbarous.

I don't care what the Han think of themselves on the civilization scale, their peasants are barbarians. Maybe all peasants are, but the Chinese are heartless ones.

Blogger Joe Katzman April 07, 2018 2:44 AM  

It goes even deeper. Remember the second half of Sun Tzu's most famous aphorism?

http://blog.lareviewofbooks.org/essays/dancing-chains/

"A prediction: China will produce some of the world’s most interesting scholarship on American literature within a generation.... The Chinese are fascinated with our scholarship, not just our texts, and are delighted with tales of “political correctness” on America college campuses leaving so many topics unexamined.... For me, the absence of identity politics in China is liberating. Chinese scholars do not care about my background or ancestors, only my arguments and my evidence. I’m seen as objective. During my talk I remarked that two Jewish scholars whose talks included old photographs of family members killed in the Holocaust were engaging in a very American form of scholarship. American eyebrows shot up, but not Chinese. The Chinese scholars sharing the panel could not — and would not — make a personal appeal during an academic presentation. An “unspoken assumption” of Chinese interest in Holocaust studies, a prominent Chinese scholar remarked, is that while comparisons to the Nanjing Massacre may be made, one must be warily respectful of American scholars’ emotional attachment to their topic. The personal attachments that are the norm in American academia are absent in China.... Chinese scholars dancing with chains to negotiate strict state limitations on their own academic freedom are keeping a close eye on the self- and socially-imposed constraints binding American scholars."

Blogger Timmy3 April 07, 2018 11:36 AM  

“China 4: Champion of plurality”

Not same as supremacy. Depends on decline of the US, which could happen.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 07, 2018 12:23 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:China's problem is it's full of Chinese ... They're clannish, low trust people who think it's not only justified but admirable to rip off someone outside their clan.

That matches well with what I've seen. Two tales:

Chinese hear ``Well, if I didn't do it (corruption or fraud of some sort), someone else would have,'' and nod their heads approvingly. That's just common sense - if there's going to be corruption, we want our share.

A Chinese friend explained to me that one cannot buy and hold stocks on the Chinese market, because the expectation is that the management is looting the company. After all, the management isn't related to the stockholders.

Anonymous Anonymous April 07, 2018 9:27 PM  

Crew wrote:Someone thinks that China can win in one!

https://theweek.com/articles/765276/how-china-win-trade-war-1-move

It won't be that easy, by far.  First, REE exports are fungible.  Second, the USA's restrictions on REE refining (like the "radioactive byproducts" problem, meaning associated thorium) are self-imposed and just as easily self-removed.  Third, the USA is working on ways to pull REEs (and maybe thorium, to replace imported uranium) from coal ash and acid-mine drainage.

A lot of current "scarcity" is artificial, promoted by rent-seekers.  Bypass the restrictions which support those rents and a lot of "impossibilities" become commonplace.

Speaking of rent-seekers, let me point you at this newly-released document from Royal Dutch Shell which states in part (emphasis in bold added):

In the light of the possible effects of an increase in greenhouse gases, it is important to examine the likely political responses to expressions of environmental concern.  Awareness of environmental matters is much stronger than it was only a few decades ago.  At present, the focus is on acid rain and nuclear energy.  While opposition to nuclear energy is strong in the USA, Australia and some European countries, it is possible that perception of a serious environmental threat could swing opinion away from fossil fuel combustion and lead to a revival of interest in conservation, renewable resources and particularly in nuclear energy.
Do you see what I see?  Anti-nuclearism is used by fossil-fuel interests to preserve their economic rents.  This has been the case since the 1960's at least.  The FF lobby has also coupled environmentalism to anti-nuclearism, whereas the original motto of the Sierra Club was "Atoms Not Dams".

Do you see it yet?  How The Narrative you've been fed is, at best, crosswise to the truth if not 100% wrong?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 08, 2018 1:30 AM  

Pale Male wrote:The FF lobby has also coupled environmentalism to anti-nuclearism, whereas the original motto of the Sierra Club was "Atoms Not Dams".

That's one reason the big oil companies fund outfits like Greenpeace. Keeping regulatory costs high to keep out the wildcatters is another.

Blogger Jackie Chun April 08, 2018 12:54 PM  

The replies about a westerner in China lead to an interesting dilemma. The red pill types say if you bring a foreign wife back to a western country she'll become as spoiled as western women. But if you stay over there then you'll never be fully part of Chinese culture (to say nothing of potential children).

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