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Tuesday, April 24, 2018

Even dead, he's more productive

JRR Tolkien is releasing a new book, The Fall of Gondolin, which sounds right up my alley.
In the latest sad episode of the saga of George R. R. Martin’s next book in the A Song of Ice and Fire series, The Winds of Winter, never being published, legendary deceased author J.R.R. Tolkien has reportedly finished another book before Martin could complete Winds of Winter. Not only is the legendary Lord of the Rings author publishing a new book before Martin, but he’s publishing them at a faster rate in general. Tolkein’s new book, The Fall of Gondolin, which will be published in 2018, follows 2017’s Beren and Lúthien, meaning despite being dead since 1973, Tolkien is somehow able to release books at a rate of one per year, while Martin hasn’t released a new ASOIAF book since 2011’s A Dance With Dragons.

The Fall of Gondolin is billed as the first “real” story of Middle Earth, and tells of the fall of the titular city to dark forces. Edited by Tolkein’s 93-year-old son, Christopher Tolkien, the book was reportedly written while J.R.R. Tolkien was convalescing after the Battle of the Somme. The Guardian, which broke the story, provides a summary of the story:

The book, said publisher HarperCollins, sets the “uttermost evil” of Morgoth against the sea-god Ulmo. Morgoth is trying to discover and destroy the hidden city of Gondolin, while Ulmo is supporting the Noldor, the kindred of the elves who live in the city.

The story follows one of the Noldor, Tuor, who sets out to find Gondolin; during his journey, he experiences what the publisher described as “one of the most arresting moments in the history of Middle-earth”: when Ulmo, the sea-god, rises out of the ocean during a storm.

When Tuor arrives in Gondolin, he becomes a great man and the father of Eärendel, an important character in Tolkien’s The Silmarillion. But Morgoth attacks, with Balrogs, dragons and orcs, and as the city falls, Tuor, his wife Idril and the child Eärendel escape, “looking back from a cleft in the mountains as they flee southward, at the blazing wreckage of their city”.

It might seem shocking that a deceased author could publish two books in his popular fantasy series in just two years, while Martin has taken over 7 years to provide fans with the penultimate chapter of his series and seems unlikely do so before HBO finishes Game of Thrones, the television adaptation that had to chart its own course after lapping Martin. However, it’s worth noting that, being dead, Tolkien needn’t be distracted by things like LiveJournal or WildCards books, so he has a distinct advantage.

Look for The Fall of Gondolin sometime this year. Don’t bother looking for The Winds of Winter. It’s never coming out.
They may well be right. I strongly suspect that George RR Martin simply can't write at the same level as his previous books in the series anymore, and he knows it. Being a gamma, he'd rather not even try than take the risk of trying, failing, and destroying his literary legacy.

That's my current theory, anyhow. And it's totally not based on any concerns about the rest of A Sea of Skulls living up to the first two-thirds....

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73 Comments:

Blogger Blume April 24, 2018 11:33 AM  

This is amazingly cruel, bravo.

Blogger mike mike April 24, 2018 11:34 AM  

"The book was reportedly written while J.R.R. Tolkien was convalescing after the Battle of the Somme." Stud

Blogger Nate Winchester April 24, 2018 11:48 AM  

Source for the article?

Blogger Resident Moron™ April 24, 2018 11:49 AM  

I heard he wrote The Hobbit while climbing Everest.

When is SoS coming out, again?

Blogger Daniel Bendele April 24, 2018 11:51 AM  

Not that you need my validation, but the quality of your writing could seriously deteriorate and it would still be better than 99% of the currently available Sci-fi and fantasy out there. The Arts of Dark and Light was the first thing I have read that brought me the same sense of wonder as the first time I read Tolkien's original trilogy.

Anonymous Anonymous April 24, 2018 11:51 AM  

And Tolkein did it without resorting to floppy wieners and raping.

Blogger lazlo azavaar April 24, 2018 11:51 AM  

Tolkien was a prolific man.

Blogger Some Guy April 24, 2018 11:52 AM  

"When is SoS coming out, again?"

Next year if we let Tolkien do it.

Blogger A rebel without a General April 24, 2018 11:55 AM  

Hey Vox, when the next book coming out I wanna know more about Marcus Valerius.

Blogger CoolHand April 24, 2018 11:56 AM  

Stiff upper lip there Vox. Once more into the breech and all that.

And should you find that you've slipped ever so slightly, take heart, because even if you only manage to be 80% as good as the first bit with the rest, it'll still be 25% better than just about any epic fantasy now being written.

We all appreciate you striving to maintain/exceed your track record of excellence, but you've got some margin there to work with, should you need it.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer April 24, 2018 11:57 AM  

George RR Martin is still writing Wildcard books?

Oh well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlAxL5942OE

Blogger Some Guy April 24, 2018 11:59 AM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAp_luluo0

Still my favorite! :-)

Blogger Nate April 24, 2018 12:00 PM  

"And it's totally not based on any concerns about the rest of A Sea of Skulls living up to the first two-thirds...."

what I write today is not as good as what I wrote in my 30s. Sometimes I go back and read some of the stuff I wrote back then and i can't believe it was something I typed up off the top of my head.

So yeah I do agree that you get better the more you right.. there comes a time in everyone's life when their fastball is just not there anymore. So then its time to switch gears and write differently.


Anonymous Anonymous April 24, 2018 12:06 PM  

I heard he wrote The Hobbit while climbing Everest.

Next year the family will be releasing a book originally written on napkins while Tolkien was bored at a dinner party.

OT- Oy Vey Christianity is subverting the narrative on (((TV)))

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/04/christian-television-reshaping-american-politics-no-one-paying-attention/

Blogger Nate73 April 24, 2018 12:09 PM  

There was an article in GQ explaining why you shouldn't read the bible because it's racist and sexist. However they decided to be more creative than the typical SJWs and actually provide a list of SJW-approved replacements for popular books. Can you guess what they recommend instead of JRR Tolkien?

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/gq-magazine-condemns-holy-bible-repetitive-self-contradictory-sententious

Blogger VD April 24, 2018 12:11 PM  

And should you find that you've slipped ever so slightly, take heart, because even if you only manage to be 80% as good as the first bit with the rest, it'll still be 25% better than just about any epic fantasy now being written.

Thanks, but I'm actually quite confident about the rest of this one. It's just sometimes hard switching gears between writing fiction, editing, and writing comic scripts.

Blogger El Rojo April 24, 2018 12:24 PM  

My Cousin's theory which I am buying into more and more, is that Martin either bought an outline or had a ghost author for the first three books.

I am leaning to the outline theory, and after the first three books he started to change things around more and more wanting to make the series more "his". Which is where of course things started to suck.

He just started adding way too many extra characters, going off on way too many tangents, when the first three books were headed in a clear direction.

He performed what I like to call: "A fit of artistic expression".

You see this phenomenon from time to time in artistic types when they want to put their stamp on things that are being enjoyed by a mainstream audience. Usually ruining the property in question.

Anonymous Anonymous April 24, 2018 12:25 PM  

'I strongly suspect that George RR Martin simply can't write at the same level as his previous books in the series anymore, and he knows it.'

I always thought the issue with his books was that he let his way to many protagonists drift way to far apart. Now he has two books left to properly end a story that can not be properly ended.

'And should you find that you've slipped ever so slightly, take heart, because even if you only manage to be 80% as good as the first bit with the rest, it'll still be 25% better than just about any epic fantasy now being written.'

I agree with you. Even if Vox disappoints us, I would prefer to be disappointed than not finding out how his work ends.

Blogger VD April 24, 2018 12:28 PM  

He just started adding way too many extra characters, going off on way too many tangents, when the first three books were headed in a clear direction.

That is the core problem. He tried to go back and fill in the years while the dragons aged, created over a dozen new perspective characters in the process, and found himself with far too many strings to bring back together.

That's why I am ruthless about keeping my number of perspective characters under control.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira April 24, 2018 12:37 PM  

This is fortuitous, since I am awaiting a special edition LOTR in in the mail, as well as a vintage 3rd edition Hobbit.

Some good reading ahead.

Blogger L' Aristokrato April 24, 2018 12:38 PM  

Does it boil anyone else's blood to hear bugmen talking about how Tolkien is "simplistic", whilst stuff like GOT, or Harry Potter is "complex"?

Blogger Brick Hardslab April 24, 2018 12:41 PM  

Martin hates heroes. Maybe because he hates his own bloated carcass and shriveled spirit. All his stories are stuck in a loop without a way forward. The Wildcards novels are no different.

He has the chops to write. A Game of Thrones shows that, he just can't get past the idea that all people are either, shitty, selfish, dupes, or monsters.

I think losing some weight would help as well as finding Christ.

Blogger Jack Amok April 24, 2018 1:00 PM  

so the deal to have Gaiman ghost-write the rest of Martin's series fell through?

Blogger Akulkis April 24, 2018 1:07 PM  

OT: Mark Stein just said that since many blacks who saw Black Panther think the place actually exists, Trump should appoint Jesse Jackson as Ambassador ro Wakanda, and we would never see JJ again.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) April 24, 2018 1:08 PM  

That's my current theory, anyhow. And it's totally not based on any concerns about the rest of A Sea of Skulls living up to the first two-thirds....

Next year in Amorr!

Blogger F Harper April 24, 2018 1:08 PM  

Well, we should keep in mind that Vox runs a book publisher (and serves as editor), a comics imprint, Infogalactic, Voxiversity, and various other projects.

Rape Rape blogs occasionally and cashes checks from HBO. I mean, getting in and out of the bank takes literally forever.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 24, 2018 1:08 PM  

"Being a gamma, he'd rather not even try than take the risk of trying, failing, and destroying his literary legacy."

Considering how much leftoids love DisneyWars, I don't see what his problem about that kind of risk is.

Although being a gamma, it's not unlikely his love life isn't a happy one and his muse is moribund.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 24, 2018 1:11 PM  

I always thought the issue with his books was that he let his way to many protagonists drift way to far apart. Now he has two books left to properly end a story that can not be properly ended.

@18 qualitycontrol1
I don't see why he can't simply kill off most of his characters and finish the series with just a few, or even one. After all, he strikes me as the nihilistic sort.

Blogger Resident Moron™ April 24, 2018 1:25 PM  

He LIKES the shitty characters he’s created. He can’t bring himself to cull them as he has anyone heroic or merely decent. So there’s no way out but through - and it’s a very long and winding road ....

Blogger John S April 24, 2018 1:29 PM  

Get a load of this fat boomer nerd's critique of Tolkien:

"Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s tax policy?Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these orcs? By the end of the war, Sauron is gone but all of the orcs aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?"

From beyond the grave, the Chad Tolkien still manages to stuff the Virgin Martin into a locker.

A picture is worth a thousand words:

https://i.redd.it/a9w331ea75yz.jpg

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 24, 2018 1:31 PM  

Or drop some sort of Great Attractor into the middle of the landscape, and bring all the various actors to a single crisis, where Westeros will be won and lost.
Kill a half-dozen characters just trying to get there, to heighten the tension, and alleviate the story telling complexity. Lay waste to entire provinces. Genocide entire peoples. Go grand.

Martin could do it, he's a good enough writer. But he'd rather write yet another rape scene. Yawn.

Blogger S1AL April 24, 2018 1:32 PM  

I can't tell if this is an Onion article or not...

Blogger CM April 24, 2018 1:32 PM  

Martin hates heroes. Maybe because he hates his own bloated carcass and shriveled spirit. All his stories are stuck in a loop without a way forward. The Wildcards novels are no different.

I criticize a lot of modern entertainment over this to my husband. Heroes are considered a trope to be avoided. Entertainment is no longer inspired or entertaining, it just cuts off the nose to spite the face.

We watched Tale of Tales the other night and I was ok with it all the way up to the ending. And it ended. It was so nihilistic. What was the point in what I just watched? There was no inspiration, there was no truth, light, enlightenment... It wasn't even real! Heaven forbid we should have decent heroes and epic stories. That isn't real enough. Real, defined as "we live, we die, most of us will accomplish squat. The end."

Blogger Amy April 24, 2018 1:37 PM  

@ L’Aristokrato,

My sister can’t read Tolkien. Boring, she says, takes too long to get anywhere. My SIL and Bro say the same. Good movies, difficult books. But they all love Rape Rape. For his refreshing realism, or something.

My Sister loved the recent film version of A Wrinkle In Time. Perfect! She said. Better than the book. Her quibble with the book? L’Engle is not a good writer (smh), she builds and builds and then...nothing. But sister could not cite a single example. For sister, I think the movie was all about Oprah and the non traditional cast. The poor writing of L’Engle is just an excuse to prove that we must move on from such impoverished beginnings.

Martin was good, once. I can’t convince anyone I know that he is not any longer, and hasn’t been, for a great while now. HBO has improved his image and fandom, even while taking over the source material and making it a coherent and watchable series. Watchable, but forgettable.

Blogger Amy April 24, 2018 1:42 PM  

@ CM, my kids are 5, 7, 9 years old. Perfect age for intros to mythology. We watched the 1980s version of Clash Of The Titans the other night. Then spent an hour reading over an illustrated book of mythology I have in the home library.

Heroism can live, if we let it. Time will come to teach them to distinguish Challahwood gloss from cultural and historical facts, but they e got the hero ideal in them. It. Is. Important.

Blogger pyrrhus April 24, 2018 1:52 PM  

It just hit me--Can you imagine what Jack Vance or Roger Zelazny could have done with Game of Thrones?

Blogger Amy April 24, 2018 1:54 PM  

Vance would slay. I’m making my way through Tales of the Dying Earth, again, and I’m still in awe of his storytelling and cutting sight of the human condition.

Blogger Ingot9455 April 24, 2018 1:58 PM  

Amongst all the other stated things, aren't the books getting to the point where the protagonists are going to have to man up and be heroes; or all die?

Since it's supposed to be a reskin of the War of the Roses, doesn't Henry Tudor have to defeat his last primary enemy, then marry the Princess of York to unite the two houses, then clean up?

Blogger Amy April 24, 2018 2:06 PM  

They will just die, Ingot.

Heroes are so passé. We’re all heroes and individuals now.

Anonymous Anonymous April 24, 2018 2:31 PM  

@24. Akulkis
Can you link me a source. I would like to see this for myself.

@28. VFM #7634
I don't think his readers would forgive him this 'everyone died for nothing, everything was pointless and you don't even get to see the bad guys win trope'. It would ruin his legacy.

'Does it boil anyone else's blood to hear bugmen talking about how Tolkien is "simplistic", whilst stuff like GOT, or Harry Potter is "complex"?'

I don't think I've every seen anyone call Harry Potter 'complex'. When Bugwomen talk about GOT being complex the aren't all that wrong. GOT has a large cast, many parallel plot lines that interfere with each other and is easy enough for the IQ 100 to 110 reader/viewer to understand beyond the plot that is happening right now. These people that call Tolkien 'simplistic' do not have the intelligence and education that is required to understand the complexity of his work. Or they are too lazy to read an essay that describes the hidden meaning of his work. All they see is a fellowship of different races trying to destroy a ring. And in the end they think it's proof of the greatness of multiculturalism because Legolas and Gimli become friends.

Blogger CM April 24, 2018 2:43 PM  

Yes. We are reading Narnia, Wright, and mythologies, and Lloyd Alexander. I have a long list for the summer. I'm excited about it. I'm finally at that age where I can share my favorite kids books with them!

Blogger Hammerli280 April 24, 2018 2:46 PM  

Tolkien was a titan because of his world-creation. Much of which wound up being behind-the-scenes background. It'll be interesting to see what gets done - because a film adaption of the Silmarillion would have a lot of potential.

That, and Tolkien's magnificent prose. I don't think it was accidental that he wrote poetry. Poetry teaches meter and rhyme, two cornerstones of good prose. But what gets assigned as poetry these days is suitable only for tween girls. Give it to a boy, and he'll gag. Sad.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 24, 2018 2:46 PM  

@34 Amy

Some books are too rich for some people, I guess. That's what the whole young adult market is for.

Heck, John C. Wright makes me stop and think a lot, so I could fully imagine the 100 IQ set finding it too much to handle.

I don't think his readers would forgive him this 'everyone died for nothing, everything was pointless and you don't even get to see the bad guys win trope'. It would ruin his legacy.


@40 qualitycontrol1
I thought that pretty much *is* his legacy. (shrug)

Blogger Jason H April 24, 2018 3:20 PM  

Nate, the article is from Bleeding Cool.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/04/10/game-of-thrones-shocker-j-r-r-tolkien-finishes-new-book-before-george-r-r-martin-does/

Blogger Blume April 24, 2018 3:21 PM  

If Martin's sex life sucks then that is all on him. Even L. Ron Hubbard new how to play yacht game. Just go to Dragon con pick a hot 30 year old cosplayer and take her to the Rivera for some wine, sun and sex.

Anonymous Anonymous April 24, 2018 3:24 PM  

@43. VFM #7634
I agree that that's his thing. Yet I think his legacy is determined by the positive feedback that he gets from his fans.

Blogger Jeff Wood April 24, 2018 3:35 PM  

@42

Hammerli, last year I vaguely remembered that Thomas Macaulay had written a poem I enjoyed as a boy - which wasn't yesterday - which I thought I might introduce to my grandsons. If only I could remember...

Of course, the poem is Horatius, one of the Lays of Ancient Rome. I bought the book, and soon decided I enjoyed the poem more than I did over fifty years ago. Second childhood I suppose, or perhaps the fact that I now live in Tuscany, and can easily imagine the march on the young Rome.

Anyway, the metre and imagery are rich enough for men to march to, and the other Lays are very fine too. I would guess that the story, and the poem read aloud, would grip many a lad.

I hope you own the pistol you chose as your handle. I was thinking of buying one, then Dunblane happened (I was living there again at the time). I foresaw the Confiscations, so didn't buy.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( your mom always did like me best ) April 24, 2018 3:41 PM  

i heard he wrote the Silmarillion while recovering the Ark of the Covenant from Top Men, purging St Patrick's Purgatory and sinking the getaway sub that Hitler was using to try to escape too Brazil.

Blogger pyrrhus April 24, 2018 3:52 PM  

So one good thing came out of the Battle of the Somme....

Blogger Ingot9455 April 24, 2018 3:58 PM  

The Night King did nothing wrong.

Blogger Eli April 24, 2018 4:40 PM  

Thank you for writing A Throne of Bones. It blew me away the first time I read it last year. I really like the lore you developed. I'm quite behind in reading the other material you have at this point for it, but am looking forward to reading the rest soon. Looking forward to all future material as well. Dare I say I think it would make for an excellent crpg setting as well.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len April 24, 2018 4:49 PM  

But what gets assigned as poetry these days is suitable only for tween girls.

If that. Maya Angelou is suitable for no one smarter than a border collie.

Anonymous Anonymous April 24, 2018 5:21 PM  

"Maya Angelou is suitable for no one smarter than a border collie."

I could never figure out what people saw in her poetry. Seemed all pretentious drivel.

Blogger tublecane April 24, 2018 5:22 PM  

@17- I have to go off of the tv series, because I've only ever read a few pages of Game of Thrones. It's obvious to me where that show started its steep decline into stupidity and pollinating, which was around the time they both went beyond the books and hit substandar material from last published book.

Up to the point, they had a pretty strong overarching story of the feud between Starks and Lannisters, the whole War of Five Kings thing, the conflict within the Lannister family, and the Stark Diaspora. There were of course the stories of Jon Snow and the Dragon Lady, which were building up to something bigger, but it was never clear how the zombies and dragons would be shoehorned into the main plot. Apparently that was never properly figured out.

The main story, whose outline I take it was cribbed from the War of the Roses, ended after Season Four, or in the books I guess before A Dance with Dragons. The series loitered for a while, then suddenly turned into cartoon fantasy action schlock.

Martin doesn't have that option. Though it would be funny if he said eff it and made the final installments comic books.

Blogger tublecane April 24, 2018 5:23 PM  

@53- "what people saw in her poetry"

Blackness.

Blogger Jack Ward April 24, 2018 5:25 PM  

@5 Daniel:

The Arts of Dark and Light was the first thing I have read that brought me the same sense of wonder as the first time I read Tolkien's original trilogy.

Hear, hear!

Blogger Hammerli280 April 24, 2018 5:27 PM  

@47: Yes, I do own a Hammerli 280. Although I've gone into black powder more and more these days. The old guns have personality that the modern firearms lack.

Blogger Jack Ward April 24, 2018 5:30 PM  

@Vox:\
And it's totally not based on any concerns about the rest of A Sea of Skulls living up to the first two-thirds....

I have no fears that will happen. Been trying to hold off re-reading that first 2/3 but resolve is slipping....Worse case; I read it again and two weeks later you publish the total of it. No problem. Just pick it up at 2/3's and keep sailing.

Blogger S1AL April 24, 2018 5:49 PM  

The other thing that Martin lacks is Tolkien's exquisitely dry sense of humor. I don't recall anything genuinely funny in his work.

Blogger OGRE April 24, 2018 6:52 PM  

Martin is rich, old, fat, and lazy. Why bother at this point? He knows he made a mess of it all, but the HBO guys will finish the story out for better or worse (much worse apparently) and he'll still get his royalties. He might even have assumed he'd be dead by now so why even start writing?

Tolkien had been building his world his entire life. It was a reflection of his person, containing parts of every aspect of his self. He never ceased creating it--drafting and editing and rewriting--until he died. He probably was incapable of stopping even if he believed in his own declining capacity. Thats the thing with prolific creators like that, it flows out of them as readily as the air they breathe.

Blogger FUBARwest April 24, 2018 7:56 PM  

HBO's ending will be a predictable good guys win ending which is going to disappoint the fans of the series and wont be Martin's ending which was to kill everybody off and the white walkers win.

Give credit to him for attempting to top Tolkien but Tolkien will remain king. If for no other reason than he actually finished his story.

Blogger Stilicho April 24, 2018 8:49 PM  

@ Jeff Wood:
For how could man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his gods

Blogger wreckage April 24, 2018 8:58 PM  

The only way to ruin your legacy is to chicken out, Vox. Buck. Buck buck. BUCKBUCKBUCKBUCKAAWWWK!

(High quality discourse 24/7 at a price you won't believe, that's me.)

Blogger wreckage April 24, 2018 9:04 PM  

@36 Jack Vance would out-nihilist GRRM's face clean off, still have hard narrative drive and a satisfying pay off, and pull some good laughs along the way. Vance's Dying Earth is proof that a sh*t world full of sh*t people is no excuse for telling a dull story.

Blogger Avalanche April 24, 2018 11:01 PM  

@55 @53- "what people saw in her poetry"
Blackness.

Or as The Derb would say: "blackity blackity black black blackity."

Blogger Mandos April 25, 2018 12:49 AM  

"Tuor, one of the Noldor"
Jesus Christ, even on non-political topics, at the basic reporting level, the leftist press can't ever get it right, can they?

Or is it me and Tuor was originally conceived as a Noldo in the Book of Lost Tales? Don't have my books with me. But would a Guardian journalist know it?

Blogger S1AL April 25, 2018 1:07 AM  

He was the only one of the race of men to become likel unto one of the Noldor, living forever in the blessed lands... so I guess halfway accurate?

Blogger Dirk Manly April 25, 2018 1:43 AM  

@17

"He just started adding way too many extra characters, going off on way too many tangents, when the first three books were headed in a clear direction.

He performed what I like to call: "A fit of artistic expression".

You see this phenomenon from time to time in artistic types when they want to put their stamp on things that are being enjoyed by a mainstream audience. Usually ruining the property in question."

In other words, the typical scriptwriter in (((Hollyweird))).

Blogger Dirk Manly April 25, 2018 1:57 AM  

""Maya Angelou is suitable for no one smarter than a border collie."

I could never figure out what people saw in her poetry. Seemed all pretentious drivel."


African Sign-Language Interpreter Syndrome.

Blogger CoolHand April 25, 2018 4:13 AM  

VD wrote:That's why I am ruthless about keeping my number of perspective characters under control.

I'd noted that in the AToB, and then this new guy pops up and I think to myself, "Hang on, this guy's new, what's this now."

Then he lasted for all of about a dozen pages.

Ruthless indeed.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 25, 2018 7:16 AM  

@40


@24 Akulkis

>> Can you link me a source. I would like to see this for myself.

He was guest-hosting for Rush Limbaugh. Not sure if rushlimbaugh.com transcribes guest hosts or not.

Blogger Thucydides April 25, 2018 3:49 PM  

"despite being dead since 1973, Tolkien is somehow able to release books at a rate of one per year,"

Greatest.Author.Ever.

Blogger Mandos April 25, 2018 8:52 PM  

But at no point in the story does he qualify as a Noldor, only at the very end when it's all over and he sails West with Idril. Even then it is said that he lives among them and his fate is separate from that of the mortals, but not that he actually becomes a Noldor.
The entire point of the story is having a son of the Edain living among the Eldar, so presenting him as a Noldor is downright unprofessional. It's like saying "Gandalf sends Elessar, the King of Gondor, to help Frodo in his quest"...

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