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Monday, April 09, 2018

Facebook tracks non-users

They might as well go ahead and shut Facebook down now, given the latest revelations and those that are still to come. The number of laws that Zuckerberg's company has broken must be in the triple digits by now:
Facebook's problems just keep accumulating, drip by drip—or more like splash by splash. It’s now been discovered that Facebook not only collects and uses the personal data of its members but also collects the data of those who never signed up for Facebook.

So if you're one of those who blames Facebook users for allowing their personal data to be compromised, don't be so smug. Facebook may be sharing your personal data as well.

Daniel Kahn Gillmor, senior staff technologist at the ACLU, discovered that, although he never joined Facebook or any other social network, Facebook has a detailed profile on him.

Facebook obtains information from those not on Facebook in two different ways: from other Facebook users and by tracking people who visit other other sites on the web.
I can't believe Trump hasn't taken this opportunity to booster his popularity by coming out hard against Big Social yet. He must be occupied with something even more important....

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73 Comments:

OpenID winstonwebb April 09, 2018 1:07 PM  

Book 'em, Donno.

Blogger The Smoking Man #3424 April 09, 2018 1:08 PM  

time to call in an orbital bombardment.
Engage Exterminatus.

Blogger Ransom Smith April 09, 2018 1:09 PM  

Facebook also never deletes your old account either.
I made the mistake of using Facebook as a login for something. And a year after deleting Facebook, logging into this site automatically reactivated my Facebook. Data totally intact

Blogger Hammerli280 April 09, 2018 1:09 PM  

Well, Trump's got a crisis in Syria, the Chinese getting frisky in the South China Sea, trade talks, nut-jobs getting nukes, and the Democrats. He's booked.

Blogger #7139 April 09, 2018 1:10 PM  

Burn FB down-burn it to the ground and salt the earth.

Blogger RobertT April 09, 2018 1:11 PM  

Q

Blogger Hammerli280 April 09, 2018 1:12 PM  

Fortunately, I don't own Facebook stock...as I suspect it will be worthless by the end of the month.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener April 09, 2018 1:13 PM  

Block unnecessary javascript. Facebook isn't the only offender here - other companies like Akamai apparently do the same thing.

Blogger kurt9 April 09, 2018 1:21 PM  

What's worse is when Facebook tried to get patients' private medical information from hospitals and other medical facilities without the consent of those patients.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 09, 2018 1:28 PM  

"So if you're one of those who blames Facebook users for allowing their personal data to be compromised, don't be so smug."

Sounds like a reason to be even more smug. Assuming you've taken appropriate precautions to stop FreakBook's involuntary stalking.

"and by tracking people who visit other other sites on the web."

Noscript. Learn it, live it, love it.

Blogger Ken Prescott April 09, 2018 1:31 PM  

I hope the first word from the hospital rhymed with "duck." That's an instant HIPAA violation. I know a woman who lost her RN ticket because she took a selfie with a hi-res phone camera, and you could read the patient data off of the monitor behind her.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 09, 2018 1:31 PM  

"other companies like Akamai apparently do the same thing."

Lots and lots of other companies. Nothing like opening the Noscript UI on a page and seeing it go off the page.

"Facebook tried to get patients' private medical information from hospitals and other medical facilities"

There go about fifty more laws whistling over Zuckerborg's head. Link?

Blogger Joeplanet April 09, 2018 1:36 PM  

Shields up, people. Think of all the soon to be unemployed SJWs that will scatter like roaches to infect and infest other companies when the FB fully implodes. It cannot happen quickly enough and these people need to be kept far away from real companies with real business models.

Blogger Arthur Isaac April 09, 2018 1:37 PM  

OT.

The media blackout in Canada regarding the circumstances and the driver of the semi in the Humboldt hockey team bus accident makes me suspicious.

Blogger Starboard April 09, 2018 1:39 PM  

@12 - https://kek.gg/u/LbQw

Facebook Building 8 explored data sharing agreement with ...
Facebook's Building 8 team approached top hospitals about a data-sharing agreement, ... It then tried to use this data to target political ads to them.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 09, 2018 1:47 PM  

I presume Twitter is in the same boat, and why their idiot CEO sounds like Jim Jones trying to stay in the good graces of the SJW mob

Blogger Dire Badger April 09, 2018 1:53 PM  

The question is, is Trump going to make Amazon actually pay for it's USMail use first, or designate Faceborg for JD takedown?

He seems to be a lot more interested in Amazon and company.

Blogger Hammerli280 April 09, 2018 2:04 PM  

@9: Oh, my. The Feds (and lawyers) take HIPPA seriously. Nail FB for that, and they'll sell the company at a sheriff's sale to pay the bills.

Zuckerberg should probably spend some of his money on coaching...on how to survive in prison. Where he will probably be spending most of the rest of his life.

Blogger Brick Hardslab April 09, 2018 2:10 PM  

@18 Hammer,
You need to read the earlier post about equality or lack thereof. Zuckerborg is not going to prison.

Blogger Andrew April 09, 2018 2:15 PM  

Some Q drops from today are relevant:

YOU are being TRACKED.
NO FB account required.
This is BIGGER than you think.
Agencies attached.
Q

Think 'Bridge'.
GOOG.
FB.
TWITTER.
IG.
'Central' algorithm.
The stage had to be set.
Q


Also, Q says Israel's strike has made proving the Syria false flag more difficult. (But not impossible I gather.)

Syria.
Hold until CONF.
MIL assets on the ground locked out of GZ.
ISRAEL strike harmed ability to prove events.
Clown report must be VERIFIED.
Troop unwind to STILL occur.
Have faith.
Trust POTUS.
Q

OpenID would-be-tellin April 09, 2018 2:25 PM  

You need a lot more than NoScript. At minimum, add Disconnect to it, plus of course an ad blocker. Or if you're willing to learn a bit more about web technologies, uMatrix instead of NoScript and Disconnect.

Blogger Nate April 09, 2018 2:30 PM  

"I can't believe Trump hasn't taken this opportunity to booster his popularity by coming out hard against Big Social yet. He must be occupied with something even more important...."

yet he has time to bitch and wine about the only big tech company people actually like: Amazon.

Blogger YIH April 09, 2018 2:35 PM  

Denninger's been pointing that out. Go to his site and put ''facebook'' in the search box. How does it work?
So let's assume you're Facesucker. You make it "easy" for site owners to put "likes" and even use sign-on features from Facebook's authentication on your page. Say, you're a newspaper.
Ok, so I go to www.mylocalnews.dirtbag/my-local-jackass-city-council.html.
As the page loads it requests the "like" buttons from Facebook for the articles, and in addition requests the sign-in box for comments. Both of those generate a request to Facebook's computers and in that request is the exact URL I am reading -- that is, from where the request came.
{snip}
What's even worse is that I don't have to actually have signed into Facebook, ever, or even have an account in order for this to occur. The first time that request goes to Facebook if there are no cookies sent Facebook can assign me one and check my browser's characteristics, including the IP address I'm coming from. I now am "branded", in that the same cookie will be used to track me forever, and if I at any time in the future sign into Facebook or otherwise use any of their facilities I will then retroactively associate all of that browsing data with my person.
Now you know why Facebook allows (for "free") the user of the OAUTH sign-on facility and promotes "like" buttons all over the web. It is not about increasing your social experience.
It is about snooping on everything you do online so they can sell and use that data without your knowledge or consent and in fact it is impossible for you to give prior consent because you have no idea the buttons are there before you visit the page!

Another trick they pull is the use of ''web beacons''; there doesn't even have to have a ''like'' or ''sign in with faceberg'' on the page. Just a 1 pixel by 1 pixel transparent .gif
You don't know it's there, you can't see or ever even find it. But 'dumbFgoyim.gif' is served by the Faceberg servers to whatever page it's put on. You load the page, it pings Faceberg. And accesses whatever 'cookie' database they've already built on you - even if you've never deliberately established a Faceberg profile.
An amusing tale: A guy named Don Black in south FL did establish a Facebook profile, gave it all true and correct information, including his real name and his homepage (since 1995 - mouse over the link to see what it is).
What did he get? ''Banned for violating Facebook Terms Of Service''. Gee, what a surprise :)

Blogger peppermint88 April 09, 2018 2:37 PM  

If FB and Twitter and Google disappeared tomorrow, no one's life would chamge. Amazon is a much larger threat that needs to be handled gently over time, starting by making them pay the full cost of delivery so people won't get used to buying essentials from Amazon with government subsidies, which will allow other online businesses that don't have Amazon's clout to survive.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora April 09, 2018 2:38 PM  

I use a script blocker and never allow Facebook scripts to run because I suspected this was the case.

Blogger Andrew April 09, 2018 2:41 PM  

YIH,

Excellent, thanks for that. What you want to bet that Amazon/Bezos was in on it knowingly and willingly? But muh Amazon is so convenient and helpful. Heh.

OpenID bgkoranburner April 09, 2018 2:43 PM  

I can't believe Trump hasn't taken this opportunity to booster his popularity by coming out hard against Big Social yet.

TRUMP is incredibly patient & is obviously waiting for the right predictable trigger to react.

Blogger Pale Male April 09, 2018 2:46 PM  

@ Solaire:  I run noscript, and specifically block Faceborg and addthis.com, but I still get Faceborg cookies now and then.  The only thing I've found that works to get rid of the cookies (and presumably the tracking) is to block Faceborg at the DNS level.

Blogger Johnny April 09, 2018 2:48 PM  

So I know this guy who gets stopped at the border and goes to jail. Why did they think to do a thorough search? Chance event?

They are never going to tell you what they know about you. It is contrary to their interests. So if you are really up to stuff, assume they know it all. Telephone, credit cards, bank accounts, Internet. If not totally true, close enough.

And if current trends continue, or already, they know where you are by your cellphone, or maybe the car also.

Blogger seeingsights April 09, 2018 2:49 PM  

I resent Facebook now. Never had Facebook account, for two reasons: 1. It is not conducive to substantive discussion. 2. There is no real privacy.
Up to now, I was bemused by the Facebook scandaI --I mean, Facebook users couldn't figure out Facebook's business model?

I'm a stock investor. I do not see Facebook as a good investment now. Competitors that respect privacy will arise. Heck, I can see a non profit such as the Wiki Foundation create an alternative to Facebook.

Blogger Nate April 09, 2018 2:54 PM  

"If FB and Twitter and Google disappeared tomorrow, no one's life would chamge. Amazon is a much larger threat that needs to be handled gently over time, starting by making them pay the full cost of delivery so people won't get used to buying essentials from Amazon with government subsidies, which will allow other online businesses that don't have Amazon's clout to survive."

this is an amazingly ignorant comment. Amazon doesn't pay the cost of delivery. The customer does. As for the post office deal... I suggest you actually look it up. its a matter of public record. Amazon was thriving when Fed Ex and UPS had their contracts. The post service deal is comparable. The difference is the post office often takes 3 days to deliver prime goods rather than 2... because Government.

But hey... why bother to actually work to be informed about something when you can just shoot your mouth off.

Blogger Johnny April 09, 2018 2:55 PM  

>>There go about fifty more laws whistling over Zuckerborg's head...

>>You need to read the earlier post about equality or lack thereof...

Hey, how about a little law enforcement here. PLEASE!!!

Blogger VFM #7634 April 09, 2018 2:59 PM  

Yeah, I have a Faceborg account, but I have been extremely careful. In fact, Faceborg apparently thinks I'm "Liberal".

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 09, 2018 2:59 PM  

Nate wrote:yet he has time to bitch and wine about the only big tech company people actually like: Amazon.
Yes, Nate, we know you have some weird attraction going with Alexa, the only woman in the world that follows commands without bitching about it.

You'd be surprised how few people actually harbor any affection at all for Amazon as a company, and instead view it as a utility, like Walmart or ebay, a place to buy things, or Netflix, a place to watch TV shows.

Blogger Johnny April 09, 2018 3:01 PM  

>>this is an amazingly ignorant comment. Amazon doesn't pay the cost of delivery. The customer does.

It is an arbitrary distinction who pays for it. It gets billed and if the bill is too big, you buy elsewhere. Thus a subsidy works to the company's interest because it lowers the net cost of the product as delivered. Give my gas station a subsidy deprived of your gas station across the street, and your gas station will go broke for want of sales. And worrying about "who pays" won't do you a bit of good.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 09, 2018 3:01 PM  

Facebook also never deletes your old account either.
I made the mistake of using Facebook as a login for something. And a year after deleting Facebook, logging into this site automatically reactivated my Facebook. Data totally intact


Facebook does allow you to do that, but only within the last couple of years. Before that, you could only deactivate it.
https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener April 09, 2018 3:05 PM  

Why the fetish for Amazon? There is no question that all of these big tech companies are hostile toward right wing nationalism.

Blogger Ransom Smith April 09, 2018 3:11 PM  

@VFM#7634
I had done a full delete .
But the information still remained .

Blogger LP999-16 April 09, 2018 3:31 PM  

Reads like this is made possible via the phones/clouds not so much non users or maybe not but the phones are involved so would Amazon along with serious lack of consent of anyone's information.

Would that qualify as a massive breach of privacy and lack of consent?

Anyhow given the sharing of data among retail stores to friends of friends not at fABok anything is possible.

I've heard those questioning BigSocialEvilGuyFB actually received money from or favors from Zuck. Rumor~

Zuck was a regular to the 2008 to 2016 administration inner circles or seemingly present in varied meetings. Fact~

Other matters?

I want Bolton neutered and removed from the WH ASAP.

Yesterday was a wonderful WV'ian POTUS Par-Tay, great fellowship, the ladies and I cooked, nice spread. Plenty to talk about.

We are up to 30 people every 8th of the month as we do things quietly, some there seemed to think the WH has taken notice to the criminality of FB regarding live videos of self harm to suicide to banning or committing racism against woke Diamond/Silk, two ladies that love Milo, GE and America.

Anyhow, our group or the new people are joining IDKA, I had shared Vox's posts with them earlier. The new people are also teachers and farmers together, we decided to up goals to help the food insecurity by 20 to 25% to help the kids and seniors.

Blogger Chase April 09, 2018 3:32 PM  

If you think you can use any part of the internet without the Deep State knowing what you’re doing, I’m afraid you’re more trusting than me.

Blogger Paradox April 09, 2018 3:43 PM  

For the love of God don’t use the word faggot on FB anymore. You’ll get zucked.

Blogger Nate April 09, 2018 3:45 PM  

"You'd be surprised how few people actually harbor any affection at all for Amazon as a company, and instead view it as a utility, like Walmart or ebay, a place to buy things, or Netflix, a place to watch TV shows."

alexa is a fun toy. Utility is precisely why I like Amazon. It has fantastic utility. It provides valuable services at a very good price.

Compare this to facebook... or twitter... which provide what? At what cost?

Snidely... your opinion is not even remotely close to the norm. Amazon is absolutely loved. Take a look around at how many of your friends and family get stuff delivered every single day.... or at least a couple of times a week.

Amazon provides access to things that places like Walmart cannot match.

Sure... people in larger cities... they have access to stores where things are easy to get. Best Buy and other retailers like that are easy to get too. Rural communities however.. that's another story. The closest best buy may be 2 hours away. To that person... Amazon is a huge benefit.

Sure... there are other places online. There are also other places online to buy books.

now ask Vox how many he sells on those other places compared to Amazon.

But amusingly you've gutted your own argument. You just listed many of amazon's direct competitors... walmart.com ... ebay... newegg... Amazon is not a monopoly. Not even close. Trump's insane focus on it, rather than google and facebook, is flat out stupid.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener April 09, 2018 3:46 PM  

Zuckerbot getting taken down by two sassy black women in real time.

Blogger James Dixon April 09, 2018 3:50 PM  

> Noscript. Learn it, live it, love it.

NoScript is an absolute essential.

> yet he has time to bitch and wine about the only big tech company people actually like: Amazon.

That's a reminder to Bezos to keep WaPo on it's leash, pure and simple.

> You need a lot more than NoScript.

More is better, yes. But NoScript is the best place to start for most people.

> Amazon doesn't pay the cost of delivery. The customer does. As for the post office deal... I suggest you actually look it up. its a matter of public record. Amazon was thriving when Fed Ex and UPS had their contracts. The post service deal is comparable. The difference is the post office often takes 3 days to deliver prime goods rather than 2... because Government.

All true. But all it takes is a change in management focus to turn an otherwise good company bad. And Amazon is building the infrastructure to surpass Google in it's ability to do harm should it turn.

Blogger James Dixon April 09, 2018 3:51 PM  

> We are up to 30 people every 8th of the month

Where do you hold them, LP?

Blogger Thucydides April 09, 2018 3:51 PM  

Sounds like there is an opportunity for a class action lawsuit by everyone who has ever been tracked by FB without consent (i.e. has no account or FB activity.

Any people with the legal knowledge to comment on this idea?

Blogger Nate April 09, 2018 3:52 PM  

Oh look.... World's Most Admired Companies... Amazon is number 2.

http://fortune.com/worlds-most-admired-companies/

Blogger Nate April 09, 2018 3:55 PM  

"And Amazon is building the infrastructure to surpass Google in it's ability to do harm should it turn."

Wouldn't it be nice to live in a world that was so well controlled that we could spend time worrying about potential threats rather than real present ones?

of course we don't live in that world. And Google and Facebook are real. Right now.

Blogger James Dixon April 09, 2018 3:56 PM  

> Oh look.... World's Most Admired Companies... Amazon is number 2.

Apple is number one and Google (Alphabet) is number three. :)
Well, one out of three ain't bad.
Six of those 10 aren't worth the powder to blow them to h***.

Blogger James Dixon April 09, 2018 4:00 PM  

> Wouldn't it be nice to live in a world that was so well controlled that we could spend time worrying about potential threats rather than real present ones?

I just prefer to remember who I need to keep an eye on Nate. Google didn't start out evil either. They did a lot of good things in their early years. Facebook? Yeah, they were always what they are, as was Twitter.

Blogger YIH April 09, 2018 4:03 PM  

Johnny wrote:So I know this guy who gets stopped at the border and goes to jail. Why did they think to do a thorough search? Chance event?

Possibly true. Customs has a reason to search - crossing a national border (even if you just stepped off the plane, say, from Paris, France to Paris, Texas). Same with non-living stuff, Customs can grab it at random and rummage through it. They find quite a bit of drugs that way.

Blogger David Rohm April 09, 2018 4:05 PM  

Who would’ve thought. Zuckerbot is becoming the gift that keeps on giving.

Ahh...irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 09, 2018 4:10 PM  

LP999-16

What is your first language, please? I find your English interesting, but I can't tell what is influencing it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 09, 2018 4:34 PM  

@Nate, I wasn't making an argument that Amazon was a monopoly. Not even close.
"Most Admired" company doesn't equal "I LOVE ALEXA!!!!" fanboydom.

I make literally dozens of phone calls a day. That doesn't mean I love the phone company. I drive hundreds of miles a week, that doesn't mean I love the Department of Transportation. I spend all day working at a Windows computer, that doesn't mean I love Microsoft. I make my living working on Linux, that doesn't mean I love RedHat.

You confuse your own emotional attachment to a modern mail-order house with normal people's reactions

Vox can sell more book through Amazon, it is true. He is also actively moving his customers to his own marketing platform. Examine why that is and then come back and talk to the adults.

Blogger Troushers April 09, 2018 4:55 PM  

>Amazon was thriving when Fed Ex and UPS had their contracts.

Oh? How much profit did the thriving Amazon make the year they signed the original post service deal?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 09, 2018 5:05 PM  

Troushers wrote:Oh? How much profit did the thriving Amazon make the year they signed the original post service deal?
You mistake "profit" and "thriving". The goal of Amazon is not, and has never been to make a profit ... yet. It's to first destroy the retail industry in America, and then make rentier profits among the ruins.
So long has they had investor cash to burn, why would they need to make a profit?

Blogger Wayne April 09, 2018 5:21 PM  

He must be occupied with something even more important....

A consistent reading of CTH will leave the impression that the biggest summer blockbuster will NOT be show in theatres, but on prime time TV, on every network and news channel. Will FB provide a live stream?

Blogger VFM #7634 April 09, 2018 5:23 PM  

I had done a full delete .
But the information still remained .


@39 Ransom Smith
Are you absolutely sure? If you logged in as if you hadn't deleted it and it came right back up as before, then you didn't delete it, you deactivated it.

Blogger Francis The Pope April 09, 2018 5:45 PM  

No matter how bad the stories of Facebook are, I am certain that Google easily surpasses Facebook when it comes to the total surveillance of every human on the planet.

Blogger Bob Loblaw April 09, 2018 6:26 PM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:Azure Amaranthine wrote:"and by tracking people who visit other other sites on the web."



Noscript. Learn it, live it, love it.


It's not enough. Social networks (not the companies, but actual social networks) really are networks. That means you can know a lot about a node by the nodes to which it's connected.

So if your friends are on FB, especially if they post pictures, the company has a good idea how you spend your time, how old you are, what sex you are, whether and where you went to college, and your political leanings.

Blogger kurt9 April 09, 2018 6:30 PM  

Francis The Pope wrote:No matter how bad the stories of Facebook are, I am certain that Google easily surpasses Facebook when it comes to the total surveillance of every human on the planet.

No doubt! You will notice several things in retrospect. One, we've not heard a peep out of either of the Google founders for several years now. This suggests they are keeping silent on advice of council. Two, you hardly ever hear comments from any of the senior managers either. This suggests a policy of "laying low" on the part of Google with regards to public announcements. Google is facing several lawsuits, both in the U.S. as well as Europe.

Blogger Nate April 09, 2018 7:39 PM  

"No matter how bad the stories of Facebook are, I am certain that Google easily surpasses Facebook when it comes to the total surveillance of every human on the planet."

yes. and its not even close.

Both companies make Apple look positively conservative.

Blogger Nate April 09, 2018 7:47 PM  

"You mistake "profit" and "thriving". The goal of Amazon is not, and has never been to make a profit ... yet. It's to first destroy the retail industry in America, and then make rentier profits among the ruins."

Its amazing how uninformed you people are... and yet you still manage to have strongly held opinions.

Amazon has a Zero profit corporate policy. Which means whatever it earns... it spends. Anything left over in the bank goes back into the business as capital investment.

You may think this is a new strategy unique to amazon but it isn't at all. Lots of companies have the same strategy. GE is probably the company that has been doing it the longest... because they have been around forever.

More capital investment means lower prices means better customer experience means more revenue means more capital investment.

Boom.

That's what they do.

It has nothing to do with destroying anything. You and Trump are delusional.

Blogger Ken Prescott April 09, 2018 8:40 PM  

"I can't believe Trump hasn't taken this opportunity to booster his popularity by coming out hard against Big Social yet. He must be occupied with something even more important...."

Perhaps the stars are not yet right.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit April 09, 2018 8:47 PM  

Ah. I've been hating Facebook since 'ought 8. Though sometime in 2014 they axed my header that began "I loathe Facebook with the passion of a 1,000 flaming suns."

It's fun when so many more people finally see the light.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 09, 2018 8:53 PM  

@13

"Shields up, people. Think of all the soon to be unemployed SJWs that will scatter like roaches to infect and infest other companies when the FB fully implodes. It cannot happen quickly enough and these people need to be kept far away from real companies with real business models."

Fortunately, lots of them are H1-B's.

H1-B's can get new jobs while in country, but they are not allowed to be "between jobs". If an H1-B's employer goes out of business, they are required to vacate the country immediately.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 09, 2018 9:16 PM  

@18

"Zuckerberg should probably spend some of his money on coaching...on how to survive in prison. Where he will probably be spending most of the rest of his life."

The thought of that weasel waking up every morning in fear of getting raped makes me smile.

It will certainly wipe that smugness off of his ever-so-punchable face

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 09, 2018 9:30 PM  

Nate wrote:More capital investment means lower prices means better customer experience means more revenue means more capital investment.


Which is why GE is still the corporate and consumer brand behemoth it was in the 1960s.

Blogger Jack Amok April 09, 2018 10:25 PM  

this is an amazingly ignorant comment. Amazon doesn't pay the cost of delivery. The customer does. As for the post office deal... I suggest you actually look it up. its a matter of public record. Amazon was thriving when Fed Ex and UPS had their contracts

Completely agree with Nate on this. And I'm pissed at the Post Office contract because their delivery is unreliable. I left instructions with Amazon that I did not want USPS as a delivery choice after a handful of eff-ups. Amazon, horrible, evil company that they are, listened to me and all my Amazon stuff comes UPS or Fed-Ex now.

As far as Zuckerberg goes, I would be glad, 20 or so years from now, to toast his new CellBook startup.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) April 09, 2018 10:59 PM  

Which is why GE is still the corporate and consumer brand behemoth it was in the 1960s.

At least in the 1980s GE had phenomenal returns on their R&D and CapEx investments:

https://alphaarchitect.com/2018/03/20/buybacks-viewed-through-an-alternative-lens-investment/

During the 1980s, General Electric (GE) made good use of its capital by spending $19.9bn while ending with an equity value of $50bn.

...

On the flip side, the GE investments created between $18 – 36 bn, according to the assumptions in the paper.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 10, 2018 12:18 AM  

@41

"For the love of God don’t use the word faggot on FB anymore. You’ll get zucked."

A bunch of Zuckerbergs in chaps got arrested after holding their own, impromptu gay pride parade


Learn how to play the game.

Blogger Dirk Manly April 10, 2018 12:20 AM  

@42

Alexa is a corporate spying-bug, which I actually paid for to put inside my own house.


There, fixed it for you.

Blogger Bobiojimbo April 10, 2018 12:30 AM  

Indeed. I hope it is more important, and not the red flag of the matador's.

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