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Friday, April 20, 2018

SJWs in SF: Sad Puppy version

Sarah Hoyt laments the ejecting of John Ringo from something called ConCarolinas:
It’s been known for years – as long as I’ve been published in SF/F – that conservatives get invited to be guests of honor at conventions far less often than leftists in SF/F and infinitely less than red-diaper-babies in SF/F, but ConCarolinas seemed like a weird place for a conflagration of snowflakism.

I went over to John Ringo’s page and read about it.  As far as I could tell, a bunch of people on Twitter had been badgering both the con-committee and the other (very leftist) guest about inviting someone who was… what the heck was he?  I don’t know.

In the beginning, the accusation against him was that he was “Puppy Adjacent.”

For those of you wanting to follow this at home, the score card is this: Five years ago, my friend Larry Correia started a movement called Sad Puppies, which was a half joking attempt to get books not of solid leftist bent (not even right wing, just not preachy left) nominated for the Hugo, which used to be one of the most prestigious fan awards in science fiction.

When Larry tired of the game after two years, my friend Brad Torgersen took it over…

It was supposed to be me, but a cancer diagnosis and emergency surgery stopped it.

Brad ran it creditably, suggesting fan-favorites who had never got nominated (over the last decade, the Hugos have become a log-rolling club of leftists.) He got people who’d never before nominated to nominate, increasing the number of people involved by three fold.  And we got practically everyone on our suggestions list on the ballot.  (Ours because I was involved both in planning and defending the guys, as was my friend Kate Paulk and my friend Amanda S. Green.)

Imagine our surprise when we found out that:
  1. We’d promulgated an immutable slate, that had to be voted for in order. We must have managed that by cleverly telling people to read and vote for those they liked, or add others, or whatever, just get involved.
  2. We were against the participation of women, people of color, and people of different gender identification and orientation in science fiction and fantasy. (How we were supposed to divine all that except perhaps women, is beyond me.  And even there, there are gender neutral names.)  The fact that three of us, in the “inner council” were women made no difference.  Since we’re not leftists, we’re obviously not “real women.” Oh, by the way, we also nominated women, people of color, and I think at least one gay person for the Hugo.  That most of those recused themselves had nothing to do with us, and was a function of the attacks by the left, who threatened to destroy careers of those who stayed on the ballot, or promised them they would get nominated by them next.  (On the eve of never, I’ll wager.)
  3. We’d done this to oppress people by being gatekeepers. Note our coalition was one best selling author (Larry Correia), a promising beginner (Brad Torgersen), a midlist author (me), and two indie authors (Kate Paulk and Amanda S. Green).  None of us had or had ever had gatekeeping powers.  In fact, the people who called calumnies against us to Entertainment Weekly (who later retracted) and other national publications were gatekeepers, since everything points to their working for TOR.
Anyway, that was the conflagration called Sad Puppies.  After our nominees were treated horribly at the 2015 Hugos, after leftists bought memberships by the dozen for the express purpose of voting “no award” over people they proudly admitted they’d never read, we thought there was no point.  My friend Kate Paulk, probably the most conciliatory woman in the world, ran it the next year and did everything the left said they wanted done.  They still attacked her.  I and Amanda claimed the right of succession, but never took it, because it was obvious the Hugos were dead, their reputation destroyed and only academics seeking tenure could be interested in them.  The only reason we claimed them was to prevent a few deluded people from trying to ride a movement they had nothing to do with to fame.

So.  This is now three years later.  There have been no Sad Puppies for two years.  And by the way, John Ringo’s extent of involvement in this was to be our friend and to joke about giving Larry and Brad the Don Quixote award.

But he was “puppy adjacent” and the deranged game of post office on the left adduced to him all the things they said we were.  You know the drill: racisss sexisss homophobic.  (They really need to come up with a more sibilant word for that.)
I find this rather fascinating for what it omits. The Baen cum Sad Puppies crowd is in an uncomfortable position not terribly different from that of Never Trump and the cuckservatives. They are accustomed to being the sole opposition to the SJWs in science fiction, and viewing themselves as the proper and respectable opposition, so they really don't know what to do about the Rabid Puppies or the considerably less accommodating opposition that is now represented by Castalia House, Arkhaven, and Dark Legion. Nor do they understand how various trends favor the growth of our influence, in part at their expense.

So, they push a narrative to the public in which we don't exist, even though without us, Sad Puppies would have remained what it was prior to our involvement, a minor bump in the road that didn't even require any suppression outside of the usual routine. This is not to say that what they did was not admirable, and indeed, their construction of the Dragon Awards will likely prove to be more significant in the long run than our demolition of the Hugo Awards. I merely observe that their efforts would have been insufficient in our absence.

But unlike the SJW narrative, the Sad Puppy narrative does not harm us at all. I am content to let them push it in peace; after all, they are not the enemy. Right now, we are marshaling our forces and preparing to engage in offensives on multiple fronts, some of which are known and others which will prove to be unexpected.

Understand that many people are going to become exhausted. Others are going to fall away for one reason or another. Friends will become allies, and allies will become neutrals. All of that is fine. None of that gives us any cause for concern nor should any such transitions be discouraged or criticized. The core remains stronger than ever, and our focus and our efforts remains relentlessly targeted at the enemy.

Let the others trail in our wake at their own pace. As long as they refrain from either attacking us or getting in our way, they are not part of the problem. They are trying to be part of the solution, even if they go about it in different and suboptimal ways.

Speaking of the SJW narrative, the crazy never ends.
I liked The Hobbit. A lot. But while Tolkien's Lord of the Rings books are influential as exercises in world building, as novels they are barely readable. It never seemed to me that Tolkien cared about his story as much as he cared about rendering, in minute detail, the world he built. Why not instead read Ursula K. Le Guin's magnificent (and as beautifully rendered) stories and novels surrounding Earthsea? Le Guin captures the world of Earthsea through a powerful, dark, gorgeous kind of storytelling that is irresistible. Perhaps Le Guin's work—along with an entire universe of fantasy fiction—wouldn't have been possible without Tolkien's influence behind it, but in its time, Le Guin's books are more influential and make for better reading.
—"21 Books You Don’t Have to Read", GQ
Only on Planet SJW are Ursula Le Guin's tedious and tedentious books deemed more influential and better reading than Tolkien's.

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105 Comments:

Blogger TM Lutas April 20, 2018 8:28 AM  

Given your number of aggressive responses, I had honestly wondered if you were capable of playing nice with others. It's nice to see that you can, and you certainly picked a decent person to adopt that approach with.

Blogger Markku April 20, 2018 8:34 AM  

He's usually nice with people. It's just that when he's not, those are the exact times it ends up on this blog because that's what the blog is about.

It's the same thing as when you read the Bible the first time, you get the impression that miracles were happening all the time and you wonder why they aren't now. But it's because the Bible is about the times when God acted. When that didn't happen, 400 years are skipped with one or two sentences.

Blogger VD April 20, 2018 8:34 AM  

Given your number of aggressive responses, I had honestly wondered if you were capable of playing nice with others.

I am not only capable of playing nice with others, I am an excellent teammate and role-player. However, I do not tolerate people getting in my way, particularly not when they do so in an attempt to control me, and I do not allow people to try to elevate themselves by taking shots at me.

That being said, people sometimes confuse my attacks on the ideas being expressed or championed by an individual with attacks on the individual himself. I could probably do a better job of drawing a hard and bright line between the two. Then again, I am not responsible when someone publicly challenges my ideas, loses badly, and gets upset at me as a result. I do my best to avoid such direct confrontations, but as readers here know, that is not always possible.

Blogger The Kurgan April 20, 2018 8:34 AM  

Strategically you may be right.
Tactically and personally my intense instinct against such “moderates” is to metaphorically spit at their feet as I walk past them covered in the blood of our enemies with tomahawk dulled by splitting their skulls and scalps at my belt.

They were MAYBE firing a few shots from the distance of a well fortified trench and wish to present themselves as our moral betters. No. No they are not.

The ones in hand to hand combat at the front lines doing the dirty work knowing full well both what is required and the cost of it are my moral brothers in arms. Not these lukewarm peasants in borrowed soldier’s uniforms.

Blogger VD April 20, 2018 8:39 AM  

The ones in hand to hand combat at the front lines doing the dirty work knowing full well both what is required and the cost of it are my moral brothers in arms.

Certainly. But it is from the ranks of the lukewarm that some of the warriors of tomorrow will come. So, treat them lightly and save your fury for those who actually desire to see you and yours destroyed. Don't despise them, but rather comport yourself in a manner that inspires them to despise themselves.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 20, 2018 8:46 AM  

IMO let the moderates and SJW fight.

With the moderates being womanish they will seek the easy victim to punch down upon so they need to be redirected to fight the SJW instead of punching down on Papa Conservative willing punching bag because principles weakness

Blogger pyrrhus April 20, 2018 8:50 AM  

Women and neutrals squabbling with SJWs over awards that have already been consigned to the ash heap of history....Whatever, I don't care....

Blogger Nate April 20, 2018 8:51 AM  

funny... reading over that.. i was thinking precisely the same thing. Sad Puppies under Brad... accomplished nothing. Rabid Puppies dominated everything that year.

Blogger The Kurgan April 20, 2018 8:51 AM  

Damn. You’re right of course.
And, paradoxically, this will be easier for me to do when my metaphors become reality.

Blogger Sherwood family April 20, 2018 8:52 AM  

I think you can draw a straight line from Gamergate through the Sad and Rabid Puppies multiple campaigns to the outcome of the 2016 election.

Gamergate and the Puppies campaigns showed a lot of the people that you could stop the lefist ratchet if you fought hard enough.

They also showed that there was literally nothing that the SJWs would not try to infest, co-opt, corrupt, or destroy. Be it the domain of video games, sci-fi, or anything else.

The fact that some people are still slow to understand that is unfortunate. But I suppose it shouldn't be unexpected.

Blogger The Kurgan April 20, 2018 8:53 AM  

And Sad Puppies under the woman was really Dead and Forgotten Dogs. They didn’t even register. At all.

Blogger VD April 20, 2018 8:54 AM  

Sad Puppies under Brad... accomplished nothing.

Actually, their few accomplishments were harmful. They put people on who withdrew, who then permitted SJWs to make the final ballot and avoid No Awards.

In fairness, I made a mistake or two of that type myself, nominating people who turned out to be squishier than I'd thought. That's why I no longer attempt to persuade people to join us. They are too psychologically weak and unreliable. And the more they feel they have to lose, the squishier they are.

Blogger Markku April 20, 2018 8:54 AM  

Damn. You’re right of course.
And, paradoxically, this will be easier for me to do when my metaphors become reality.


Also remember that guerillas can't function without considerable support of the general population. Only the extreme few have what it takes to become a guerilla, but almost everyone has the ability to secretly support them with supplies, food, and other low-cost strategies. This, realistically, is the function of the former moderates.

Blogger Salt April 20, 2018 8:55 AM  

The Kurgan wrote:And Sad Puppies under the woman was really Dead and Forgotten Dogs. They didn’t even register. At all.

That's sad.

Blogger Markku April 20, 2018 9:02 AM  

The moderate has probably been moderating all his life, and may be in a particular place in our society, that the hardcore guy would never have gotten in. Because he will not kowtow. These positions have strategic importance, if we can just wake up the moderate enough that he starts employing low-cost strategies there.

Blogger pyrrhus April 20, 2018 9:09 AM  

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Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 20, 2018 9:09 AM  

Never let the moderate punch right without a high cost.

Blogger Aeoli April 20, 2018 9:09 AM  

OT, I may just have figured out why leftists accuse others of what they're doing. It's analogous to why SJWs reveal their insecurities in their bullying tactics (e.g. "no one loves you!"). Add the belief that reality is determined by what is said about it, where it follows that anything that exists must have been spoken into being by group consensus. Therefore, negative transference comes from the belief that the immediate painful reality one experiences (e.g. rising misery index) necessarily was spoken into being by a conspiracy of enemies. And so the only way to fight it is to form counter-conspiracies to speak new counter-narratives into existence.

Blogger Sherwood family April 20, 2018 9:09 AM  

The SJWs know that the moderates are the supply base for Alt-Right guerillas. That is why to try to create "no man's lands" around the moderates so that they can keep Alt-Right from sheltering or resupplying. They do that by trying to make normal things/thoughts seem unacceptable now or beyond the pale but all they will eventually succeed in doing is simply outgrouping more and more moderates, driving them into the Alt-Right because there will be nowhere else to go.

Blogger Amy April 20, 2018 9:19 AM  

Aeoli: magical thinking. Or, spell-casting, if you wish. Books like The Secret and pretty much anything written by Tony Roberts are all about this ability to “will into being” anything you wish to be so. Manifestation, they call it. It’s 21st century witchcraft.

Blogger Amy April 20, 2018 9:21 AM  

*Robbins, not Roberts

Blogger The Kurgan April 20, 2018 9:24 AM  

While of course there are subtle lines between varying types of guerrillas and it’s good to be clear about them, I think even within such groups there are individuals that can really leave a mark.
Flammen & Citroen come to mind.

Blogger Meimou April 20, 2018 9:46 AM  

Amy
Aeoli: magical thinking. Or, spell-casting, if you wish. Books like The Secret and pretty much anything written by Tony Roberts are all about this ability to “will into being” anything you wish to be so. Manifestation, they call it. It’s 21st century witchcraft

Books like the secret put the law of attraction in a negative because it focuses on the material and makes the loa look like magic, but thoughts can affect reality, if you believe in the placebo effect, then you should believe in the loa.

http://www.thelawofattraction.com/six-things-need-know-science-behind-law-attraction/

Blogger paul b. April 20, 2018 9:46 AM  

That list is something else alright. I thought that these guys adore the likes of "Blood Meridian" and "Gravity's Rainbow", but I guess that's just more of that dead old white guy literature that is ripe for replacing. And of course, there's the customary flamboyant atheist with a cringe inducing comment about the Bible.

That Tolkien bit, btw, it is obvious that the person in question read Moorcock's ever popular criticisms of Tolkien rather than, you know, reading Tolkien. Not that that article's audience would ever spot the difference.

Blogger Sherwood family April 20, 2018 9:50 AM  

I actual enjoyed some of LeGuin but comparing her to Tolkien is comparing Warhol to Vermeer. LeGuin's best work hardly compares with Tolkien's dabblings. There is not only a difference of degree between the two but a difference of kind. Her attempts at the "numinous" are like reading a description of the Grand Canyon while Tolkien's are the real thing, full of danger and wonder.

Blogger Bogey April 20, 2018 9:54 AM  

They are too psychologically weak and unreliable. And the more they feel they have to lose, the squishier they are.

The squishies were trying to gain traction in and industry full of SJWs.

Is it good to go hard on your views from the very beginning. I was thinking of Ethan Van Sciver, by the time people discovered his views and started shrieking he was already an undeniable talent, yet starting out with views like his and trying to get work would be difficult.

I heard Feng Zhu (a well known concept artist) state in a video to clean up your Facebook or put it on private because employees will look at the stuff you post.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 20, 2018 10:08 AM  

Salt wrote:The Kurgan wrote:And Sad Puppies under the woman was really Dead and Forgotten Dogs. They didn’t even register. At all.

That's sad.


Sad but true.

When Larry Corriea bowed out as leader of the Sads a lot his MHN went with him.

Brad... Dear, sweet Brad. He was trying to reason with crazy people.

The SMOFs could have saved the Hugo's reputation easily enough. If they had just said something like, "everybody calm the fuck down and just vote the ballot as it is, this will all be over with quickly The Puppies are all Rightwingers, if we stay quiet and don't make a big deal about this, they will either start fighting with each other in public and generally shooting themselves in the foot or get bored and wander off. Just be quiet about this and vote the ballot as is and it will all blow over."

You may as well have asked rain to not be wet.

Not with Queen Toadina braying out her calls for Jihad at the top of her vast lungs. The mentally ill are not big on being reasoned with.

Not only did the SJWs blow up their own award's reputation with their "no award" award drives. They then bounced the rubble by giving the Best Novel of Year award to the utterly mediocre works of the utterly mediocre N. K. Jemison.


Everybody knew who Larry Corriea was. A lot of people knew Brad of Torgersen. But when "Kate the Impaler" stepped forward everybody said, "who?"

Blogger VD April 20, 2018 10:11 AM  

They then bounced the rubble by giving the Best Novel of Year award to the utterly mediocre works of the utterly mediocre N. K. Jemison.

Just wait until she wins for the third year in a row.... The only better result would be Scalzi winning for The Collapsing Empire.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 20, 2018 10:20 AM  

Hell, Vox told them explicitly how to make the hurting stop.
Just being honest.
Not as a demand, but that it would take the wind out of our sails and the whole thing would go away. They just couldn't find it within themselves to be honest. They straight-p refused.

Blogger tuberman April 20, 2018 10:25 AM  

From a shear entertainment perspective, I'm enjoying Castilia House, Arkhaven, and Dark Legion. On my 14th fiction, and six non-fiction, plus three comics.

Is Monster Hunters by Larry Correia any good?

Blogger VD April 20, 2018 10:29 AM  

Is Monster Hunters by Larry Correia any good?

It is a fun and entertaining spin on the genre. I would say it is worth reading.

Blogger Matt Sellitto April 20, 2018 10:30 AM  

Also on that list of "21 Books You Don't Have to Read"

"The Bible"

Yeah, what a surprise.

Blogger Desdichado April 20, 2018 10:30 AM  

Not only did the SJWs blow up their own award's reputation with their "no award" award drives. They then bounced the rubble by giving the Best Novel of Year award to the utterly mediocre works of the utterly mediocre N. K. Jemison.

Mediocre is generous. I found her work insufferable. But I admit that my patience with bad fiction has plummeted as I've aged.

Blogger Weouro April 20, 2018 10:30 AM  

"But while Tolkien's Lord of the Rings books are influential as exercises in world building, as novels they are barely readable."

LLOL.

Blogger S1AL April 20, 2018 10:42 AM  

"Is Monster Hunters by Larry Correia any good?"

As a series, it develops from "entertaining" to "Well this guy damn well learned how to write and when's the next one coming out, again?"

I prefer Grimnoir Chronicles, though. I'd put 'Hard Magic' in his top 2.

Blogger slarrow April 20, 2018 10:45 AM  

Vox, I was kind of wondering why you'd ignored the Hugos this year. I figured it was because you'd achieved your strategic goals of getting the SJWs to overextend themselves, stuff the ballot full of irrelevant and overrated hacks, and starve Worldcon of cash. Seeing Sarah acknowledge that the Hugos "used to be one of the most prestigious fan awards in science fiction" makes me think Mission Accomplished.

I don't really fault the Sads for their efforts. Indeed, in a better world, I'd prefer their approach where people of good will could come together in good faith and work out problems. We just don't live in that world (if we ever did), and the Sads did not recognize that, nor did they recognize the nature of the enemy as Vox did.

Perhaps they should have, but don't forget that this all started because it was fun. Larry started the whole thing for fun (hence Wendell the Manatee), and Vox's early involvement generated the Evil Legion of Evil and the assorted titles (like the Supreme Dark Lord, the International Lord of Hate, and even the Beautiful but Evil Space Princess Sarah herself.) Seeing the Rabid Puppies logo for the first time cracked me up, and watching SJW heads explode was a blast.

But Vox was the one who recognized this as an opportunity in the culture wars and acted accordingly. Sun Tzu, man. Sun Tzu.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 20, 2018 10:50 AM  

VD wrote:Is Monster Hunters by Larry Correia any good?

It is a fun and entertaining spin on the genre. I would say it is worth reading.


Since this thread started because of Ringo anyway, my favorite of the Monster Hunter books is Monster Hunter Memoirs: Saints by Ringo and Corriea.

Ringo pulled the old trick of standing the long established conventions of the MHI world on it's head.

In New Orleans MHI has excellent relations with the MCB office. They are fast friends and they have a bar they all go to for Bourbon Chicken and...well...bourbon. "Team Hoodoo" operates pretty much out in open because everyone in New Orleans knows that the supernatural is real, which is why the MCB doesn't bother with intimidation of witnesses.

Chad, the hero of the book, also acquires a Jeeves of sorts in the character of Remi.

It's not a good start book for the MHIverse but for my money it's the best of them.

Blogger slarrow April 20, 2018 10:51 AM  

I prefer Grimnoir Chronicles, though. I'd put 'Hard Magic' in his top 2.

The narrated versions by Bronson Pinchot are a lot of fun, too. Balki's got chops.

Blogger OneWingedShark April 20, 2018 10:52 AM  

VD wrote:I am not only capable of playing nice with others, I am an excellent teammate and role-player. However, I do not tolerate people getting in my way, particularly not when they do so in an attempt to control me, and I do not allow people to try to elevate themselves by taking shots at me.

That being said, people sometimes confuse my attacks on the ideas being expressed or championed by an individual with attacks on the individual himself. I could probably do a better job of drawing a hard and bright line between the two. Then again, I am not responsible when someone publicly challenges my ideas, loses badly, and gets upset at me as a result. I do my best to avoid such direct confrontations, but as readers here know, that is not always possible.

Re: attacks on ideas vs people.

In my experience, this is actually very hard to do, especially when I can say something not intending any offense/hurt and later realize that what I said could be taken that hurtful way... properly/explicitly delinting the line between person and idea is at least an order of magnitude harder, especially because I am quite happy in the world of ideas and invest a lot of myself into them, and so tend to think that others are the same.

I think it was here on this blog where I heard someone say "people don't have ideas, ideas have people" -- meaning, in part, that an idea without womeone advocating/acting on it is nothing/useless -- which I found to be extremely interesting, and a helpful different perspective.

In any case, this is a long-winded way for me to (1) express my appreciation of your endeavors in the area, and (2) offer some encouragement.

Blogger VD April 20, 2018 10:54 AM  

Vox, I was kind of wondering why you'd ignored the Hugos this year. I figured it was because you'd achieved your strategic goals of getting the SJWs to overextend themselves, stuff the ballot full of irrelevant and overrated hacks, and starve Worldcon of cash. Seeing Sarah acknowledge that the Hugos "used to be one of the most prestigious fan awards in science fiction" makes me think Mission Accomplished.

Declining marginal returns. They will do 90 percent of the damage that we could do without us having to lift a finger even pay attention. The trajectory is going precisely as I intended once it became clear that they were going to react; if the situation changes and our intervention is necessary again, then we will intervene.

Blogger Nathan Housley April 20, 2018 11:03 AM  

The Sads continue to look for approval from the kickers to the point of publishing for Kickers (see Wordfire press and who the staff is--might explain why Sad Puppies died). It has been interesting to watch those books sell less than bootleg fanfic.

Blogger slarrow April 20, 2018 11:07 AM  

The trajectory is going precisely as I intended once it became clear that they were going to react;

They should never have accused a gamer of gaming the system when he hadn't even tried yet. Talk about your Challenge Accepted....

Blogger Crew April 20, 2018 11:08 AM  

Just wait until she wins for the third year in a row.... The only better result would be Scalzi winning for The Collapsing Empire.

It is amusing that after the advertising budget etc put into that book it is only at #76 in the Galactic Empire Science Fiction at Amazon. BV Larson's Steel World etc series has more books in the top 100 and has several well ahead of him, and Larson does not have a big-name publisher behind him (essentially self published, I believe.)

Also, Nick Cole's Galaxy's Edge Legionnaire makes it into the top 100.

Blogger VD April 20, 2018 11:11 AM  

They should never have accused a gamer of gaming the system when he hadn't even tried yet. Talk about your Challenge Accepted....

(nods) Now they know what it looks like when I game something.

Blogger pyrrhus April 20, 2018 11:17 AM  

I liked A Wizard of Earthsea, though not her other works, but saying that LeGuin's books are more influential than Tolkien's is just barking mad.....Tolkien and Philip K Dick are the dominant SciFi/Fantasy authors of our era, and Hollywood has confirmed that...Robert E. Howard isn't doing badly either.

Blogger pyrrhus April 20, 2018 11:20 AM  

@43 Yes, Nick Cole's Galactic dumpster fire series has definitely made a believer of me....

Blogger Michael April 20, 2018 11:21 AM  

Sad Puppies ended up introducing me to John C. Wright's work, so I think it accomplished something of significant personal value to me. I can't remember the last time the Hugo's introduced me to a good read.

Anonymous Anonymous April 20, 2018 11:24 AM  

"Why not instead read Ursula K. Le Guin's magnificent (and as beautifully rendered) stories and novels surrounding Earthsea? Le Guin captures the world of Earthsea through a powerful, dark, gorgeous kind of storytelling that is irresistible."

Irresistibly putting to sleep, maybe.

No, seriously. In my youth I've read TONS of trash fantasy novels, including literal fanfics. I've finished most of them, even if not all left fond memories. But I never could read any Earthsea books after the first from end to end, even though I tried a few times because I was told they're good.

Anonymous Anonymous April 20, 2018 11:36 AM  

Read her 'article'. Is this postmodernist twit aware of how horrendously shallow she is? It's not that she can't see the forest for the trees, she can't see past the end of her own nose.

Blogger James Dixon April 20, 2018 11:38 AM  

> but in its time, Le Guin's books are more influential and make for better reading.

More influential? Better reading? Those words don't mean what they think they mean.

It tells you all you need to know that the Bible is on their do not read list. I guess they were too afraid to put Atlas Shrugged on their because of the backlash they knew they would get.

Blogger freddie_mac April 20, 2018 11:49 AM  

Sads led me to Rabs, which led me here. Sad Puppies can be summarized as a bunch of thoroughly nice people try to nicely discuss discrimination with crazy people. Just about anyone (except the Sads) could have predicted the results. The good point is that not only did the campaign introduce me to Rabs/Vox, but it also opened my eyes to the vast pool of indy SFF.

LeGuin: umm, yeah, hard to say anything good. I did read Earthsea #1, and promptly forgot it. Tried to read #2, but could just never get into it (my only overdue library book). Read Left Hand of Darkness, and recall that I got to the end of the book and was wondering when the plot would start.

I'm getting much, much more out of The Bible than I ever would from any of the books on the list (original or replacements). Repetitive? Sure, 'cause the Israelites can't seem to follow instructions. sheesh "Do this or face the consequences." They *don't* do this, face the consequences and wail "whaat, you really mean it? that's so mean!" rinse & repeat.

Blogger Scott Rassbach April 20, 2018 12:51 PM  

I just listened to Wizard of Earthsea on audiobook. I had read it years ago, and thought I'd enjoy it. I was surprised that it was a basic Jungian retread (you have to know your shadow) without ever actually getting to know the shadow. There was no exploration of the negative aspects of Sparrowhawk's character, simply that this bad thing from another world was the shadow of Sparrowhawk, and he had no power over it until he knew it's name and it might take him over. It was all telegraphed from the very beginning that this would be the outcome. And everyone seemed to know, but no one would tell Sparrowhawk.

It was like a poorly rendered idea of the Upside Down from Stranger things, and compared to the corruption Frodo fights, or the doubts of Samwise, or the struggles of Aragorn, it does not hold a candle.

Blogger Jack Amok April 20, 2018 12:52 PM  

And the more they feel they have to lose, the squishier they are.

...

The moderate... may be in a particular place in our society, that the hardcore guy would never have gotten in... These positions have strategic importance, if we can just wake up the moderate enough that he starts employing low-cost strategies there.


Moderates will move Right under three conditions:

1) they cease having too much to lose, because the Left has continued to push them farther into the bucket.

2) they realize there is no appeasing the Left, that it really is a matter of hoping the alligator eats them last, but the alligator is batshit crazy with hunger so it's only a matter of time before the jaws snap at them.

3) they start to think they have less to fear from the Left as the Left loses power over status and money.

#1 is our enemies' job, and they do it very, very well, so we can let it take it's course. The second and third points are our job. Lever them out of power, destroy the institutions they're wearing as skin-suits, get them fighting each other, expose their fundamental irrationality and insatiable appetite for sacrifice.

I don't think we'll get all that many people from #2, but the ones we do get will be pretty savvy. I suspect a lot of us fall at least partially into category 2 - we realize where all this is going if something doesn't change.

Blogger James Dixon April 20, 2018 1:13 PM  

> LeGuin: umm, yeah, hard to say anything good.

Her short stories are good.

> I was surprised that it was a basic Jungian retread (you have to know your shadow) without ever actually getting to know the shadow. There was no exploration of the negative aspects of Sparrowhawk's character, simply that this bad thing from another world was the shadow of Sparrowhawk, and he had no power over it until he knew it's name and it might take him over. It was all telegraphed from the very beginning that this would be the outcome. And everyone seemed to know, but no one would tell Sparrowhawk.

The entire book summarized in one paragraph. Excellent work.

Blogger MendoScot April 20, 2018 1:23 PM  

At the same time PJMedia give a loud shoutout to The Last Closet in an article on Planned Perverhood's "sex education" classes.

Blogger Jason H April 20, 2018 1:28 PM  

Has anyone read The Broken Earth trilogy? I bounced off the first book initially, but I gave it another shot a few months back and was shocked at how great it really is.

Don't judge a book by it's half-savage author.

Blogger Wayne April 20, 2018 1:32 PM  

@27. I like the reference to the seven sons of Sceva in Acts 19:14-16.

Blogger Amos Bellomy April 20, 2018 1:35 PM  

Look, I don't agree with Vox on lots of things and have said so. But Vox would stand by me in a fox hole and moderates would not. And that's the difference.

Blogger Resident Moron™ April 20, 2018 1:47 PM  

“ Sad Puppies under Brad... accomplished nothing.”

Yeah ... nah ... sort of.

At least they demonstrated to the rational observer that the SJWs are everything they rail against. They’re not tolerant, they’re not liberal, they’re not open-minded, they’re not willing to let people alone, they’re not believers in equality.

That’s a useful demonstration, in my view.

Blogger Resident Moron™ April 20, 2018 2:08 PM  

“They *don't* do this, face the consequences and wail "whaat, you really mean it? that's so mean!" rinse & repeat.”

Ha ha ... ancient jews as SJW prototypes - priceless!

Blogger bob kek mando - ( your mom always did like me best ) April 20, 2018 2:25 PM  

this is the level of critique which GQ brings to Literature:
"I never could get into Joseph Heller's Catch-22. It fails to capture the absurdities and impossible conflicts of war."

"The Holy Bible is rated very highly by all the people who supposedly live by it but who in actuality have not read it."

"The few women in Slaughterhouse-Five die early, are porn stars, or are “bitchy flibbertigibbets.”—Nadja Spiegelman"


says the bitchy flibbertigibbet.

i didn't much care for Catch-22. but to assert that the book does NOT capture absurdities and impossible conflicts?

talk about not having read the work which you are declaiming upon.

Blogger Fenris Wulf April 20, 2018 2:42 PM  

"Melville thinks whales are fishes. LOL. What a tool. Skip this one, it's not like anyone uses whale oil anyway."

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 20, 2018 2:57 PM  

"Why not instead read Ursula K. Le Guin"

If I could tell it was all a trashy freakshow before reading five chapters as a fourteen year old...

"I may just have figured out why leftists accuse others of what they're doing."

It's the solipsism. They intrinsically assume that everyone else works the same way they do.

"I guess they were too afraid to put Atlas Shrugged on their because of the backlash they knew they would get."

The last umpteen pages of pure propaganda-speech of Atlas Shrugged was both less disgusting and more entertaining than the few chapters of Guin I ever read. To even compare her to Tolkien, let alone try to claim she's better... trash human flag.

Anonymous Anonymous April 20, 2018 3:09 PM  

tuberman wrote:Is Monster Hunters by Larry Correia any good?
Yes.  You will not be disappointed.

As for LeGuin, I would recommend The Dispossessed and The Lathe of Heaven before giving up.  Earthsea isn't for everyone, though I gobbled it up at the time (I used to read almost everything).  But if you've got some Nick Cole or Correia left unread, don't feel compelled to put the LeGuin ahead of it.

I read Catch-22 when I was really too young to get it.  It makes more sense now.

Blogger Fenris Wulf April 20, 2018 3:40 PM  

The Dispossessed is unintentionally hilarious because it tries to argue that Newspeak is a good idea. LeGuin is the senile cat lady of SF.

Blogger D. Bay April 20, 2018 3:48 PM  

Reading through the Social Justice Gestapo Warrior pukeage of that so-called GQ article was painful.

The Hobbit still holds up today as does The Great Gatsby, Catch-22, Blood Meridian, The Lord of the Rings, The Catcher in the Rye. Huck Finn I didn't care for, it was corny and had more slurs than a Klan rally.

But what all these old books are missing to make them relevant to the Social Justice Gestapo Warrior crowd at GQ?

Gay sex.

Simply make Huck and Jim gay and have the novel rewritten a la one of those classic novels where they add zombies. Like Pride and Prejudice and Zombies. Simply make Holden Caulfield of The Catcher in the Rye transgendered, non-binary or some other such crap. Or make all the characters of these classic novels transgendered, non-binary Muslims. Nothing the Social Justice Gestapo Warriors love more than the so-called religion of peace. Mohammed Caulfield.

Blogger tublecane April 20, 2018 3:49 PM  

"Why, John Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave."

Blogger James Dixon April 20, 2018 3:58 PM  

> ...talk about not having read the work which you are declaiming upon.

Do you think the author has actually read any of the books on the do not read list? I know which way I'd bet.

> As for LeGuin, I would recommend The Dispossessed and The Lathe of Heaven

I still need to read The Lathe of Heaven. People I trust like it. I've read most of her other books.

Blogger tublecane April 20, 2018 4:00 PM  

This 21 Books list is one of those worthless "most over-rated" lists. I say worthless because the compilers never bother trying to find maximal difference between esteem and value, but rather bitch above not liking what they're supposed to like. Usually because the books were assigned to them in school. No one enjoys reading assigned books. Or it's a fashion thing .They want to prove they're with-it by countersignaling what was hip when they came up. Or it's a Culture War thing.

However, I can't help but feel this is a Deliberate Dumbing Down of America-type thing. We were talking about progressive education in another thread, and this list reminds me very much of educationists trying to make their students dumber than they otherwise would have been.

Blogger Starboard April 20, 2018 4:11 PM  

tuberman wrote:
Is Monster Hunters by Larry Correia any good?
Pale Male wrote:
Yes. You will not be disappointed.

Agreed. The most important thing about MHI is that it is fun. It moves fast, is pro male, is pro gun, and is anti evil even when the lines are blurry. It is Fun. Read it on the plane or waiting for an appointment, but don't read it right before bed. It falls into that zone of easy but engaging that can keep you turning pages into the wee hours.


Lathe of Heaven was good. Left Hand of Darknesss was not. Never read Earthsea.

As for the list of what not to read. The editors make their choices based on problematic intersectional isms and, my favorite, "I just didnt like it."

Blogger tublecane April 20, 2018 4:11 PM  

There are more objective grounds for compiling lists like this than "I don't get why everyone is so into it; it's boring, eww."

Obviously, plenty such lists are explicitly political. For instance, if you're a commie don't read these capitalist-apologist books. Or don't read these crypto-fascist racist books. Those lists you can find at leisure.

I'd like to read a list on books that caused a sensation and were "ahead of their time," but which we no longer need to read because the shock has worn off and their messages are commonplace and even platitudinous by now. Naturally, a lot of this type book will disappear on its own. But some persist.

One author I read put forward Samuel Butler's Way of All Flesh as an example. There's your template.

Then there are child-rape apology books. I'd like a list of that. Incest books, too.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len April 20, 2018 5:03 PM  

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Blogger Don't Call Me Len April 20, 2018 5:08 PM  

It's not too long, and it's not effortful.

In today's totally non-shocking top story, the "editors" of GQ happily demonstrate they are lazy dullards.

Yet these blind squirrels apparently managed to find two nuts: Catcher in the Rye is tedious crap, and Dispatches is an excellent book on men at war. Someone smart must have told them.

Blogger Were-Puppy April 20, 2018 5:19 PM  

@36 slarrow

I don't really fault the Sads for their efforts. Indeed, in a better world, I'd prefer their approach where people of good will could come together in good faith and work out problems. We just don't live in that world (if we ever did), and the Sads did not recognize that, nor did they recognize the nature of the enemy as Vox did.
---

That's very true. I started as Sad Puppy but reality turned me into Were-Puppy.

Anonymous Anonymous April 20, 2018 5:25 PM  

In today's totally non-shocking top story, the "editors" of GQ happily demonstrate they are lazy dullards.
Perfectly in tune with their times and their readers.

Blogger Ingot9455 April 20, 2018 5:31 PM  

@66 Mohammed Caulfield works really well actually. All that whining about everyone else being phony and not Muslim enough. He'll show them!

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener April 20, 2018 5:39 PM  

Rabid Puppies was fun. The SDL should unleash the minions to wreak havoc more often.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( your mom always did like me best ) April 20, 2018 5:43 PM  

68. James Dixon April 20, 2018 3:58 PM
I still need to read The Lathe of Heaven.


it was a big "meh" for me.

so far as i could tell, it was a book by a Narcissist, fantasizing about a world in which Narcissists could create any change they wanted, simply by imagining it.

it reminded me of the Marxist Lament that Communism / Socialism are the perfect system
...
but due to their imperfections, men can't stand to live under it.

so we'll have to remake man.

69. tublecane April 20, 2018 4:00 PM
but rather bitch above not liking what they're supposed to like.



at the same time that they're busy telling you WHAT YOU SHOULD LIKE.

that's the irony.

Anonymous Anonymous April 20, 2018 6:39 PM  

"... But while Tolkien's Lord of the Rings books are influential as exercises in world building, as novels they are barely readable."

That may be the single stupidest comment I have read in months, perhaps years.

Tolkien's books are barely readable? The writer of that sentence must be barely literate. Or, perhaps just a damn liar who thinks such garbage comments support the leftist narrative somehow.

Blogger James Dixon April 20, 2018 7:40 PM  

> The writer of that sentence must be barely literate. Or, perhaps just a damn liar...

Embrace the power of and.

Blogger Crew April 20, 2018 8:09 PM  

The next installment of Galaxy's Edge is released next Wednesday!

Blogger Skyler the Weird April 20, 2018 8:38 PM  

I have actually been to con Carolinas. It basically a Baen publicity tour. If Baen decides to stop going there won't be anything but fanfic authors, Pink Jesus, extras from the Walking Dead, and a Land Whale burlesque show.

Blogger Crew April 20, 2018 9:03 PM  

I liked The Hobbit. A lot. But ... as novels they are barely readable.

Are you often in the habit of liking books that are barely readable?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 20, 2018 9:35 PM  

Crew wrote:Are you often in the habit of liking books that are barely readable?
He likes the movies, which are almost unwatchable bilge. He hates the book which he calls almost unreadable. Which tells you everything you need to know. He's illiterate.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( your mom always did like me best ) April 20, 2018 10:07 PM  

it's worse than that.

LOTR and 'The Hobbit' are two different things. 'The Hobbit' is a children's book, far shorter and fairly simplistic.

what he's saying is that he likes books written for 8 year olds, but that he finds books written for junior high students too complex.

God forbid he ever try to read The Silmarillion.

Blogger tublecane April 20, 2018 10:11 PM  

@79- I'm going to assume pure ignorance on their part. They couldn't get into, so they assume most other people wouldn't, either.

Except it's massively popular, everyone knows it is, and happens to be one of the most loved and obsessed over books of the past couple centuries. The sort of book people build lives around. And though not everyone reads every page, it's one of the classics regular people actually do read.

I have encountered more than one person who gave up after Tom Bombadil showed up, but it probably wasn't for them.

Blogger A Loving Tribute to Falco April 20, 2018 10:15 PM  

Crew and Snidley; you realize The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings are different books? He's saying he like The Hobbit, but not the Lord of the Rings. To spell it out further, he liked The Hobbit, but not The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King. Are you two retarded?

Vox, what happened to the commentariat here?

Blogger Brett baker April 20, 2018 10:54 PM  

Huckleberry Finn was set in the 1840-50s, so there would be a lot of slurs. Obviously, the person in the article was too stupid to understand that.

Anonymous Anonymous April 20, 2018 10:55 PM  

The writer of that sentence must be barely literate.
With the bullshit about "close reading", going over boring bits of text many times, the majority of public-school students in the USA are being trained to hate the written word.  No wonder they'd be unable to appreciate Tolkein; it's how they've been programmed.

I read scientific and legal papers for my own edification, so I barely share a world with such crippled people.

Blogger Brett baker April 20, 2018 10:59 PM  

Finally read Left Hand of Darkness a couple of years ago. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. The refusal to grasp sexual dimorphism affects the sexes on this planet was amusing.

Blogger Brett baker April 20, 2018 11:06 PM  

Finally read Left Hand of Darkness a couple of years ago. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. The refusal to grasp sexual dimorphism affects the sexes on this planet was amusing.

Blogger Brett baker April 20, 2018 11:06 PM  

Huckleberry Finn was set in the 1840-50s, so there would be a lot of slurs. Obviously, the person in the article was too stupid to understand that.

Blogger bethyada April 21, 2018 2:52 AM  

Instead of the Bible read the Notebook?! What?!

What kind of civilisation would these people build? They would destroy every last copy of Shakespeare if they could only keep The Very Hungry Caterpillar.

Blogger VD April 21, 2018 4:53 AM  

Vox, what happened to the commentariat here?

The traffic grew and the average common denominator necessarily declined. Too many people are skimming the posts, then commenting in half-ignorance rather than reading them in their entirety first.

Blogger Wild Ape April 21, 2018 8:23 AM  

I'm convinced that Gamersgate and Rabid Puppies created big shockwaves that led to big things like the election of the God Emperor, Brexit, and widespread right wing censorship. These movements were blueprints of how to fight the SJWs and they win. And, who wrote the book on how to fight them?

Correia had the right idea but his tactics fell short while the Rabids were effective because Vox knew what to do. No one ran screaming from the Sad Puppies because they had no respect. SJWs rely on civility as in this case of people turning the other cheek and hoping people will respond in kind and go back to being civil. I learned the hard way that cuckservatives just keep turning the cheek hoping the other's arm get tired as they pimp slap them. Vox may sound uber harsh to some slowly transitioning from Sad to Rabid but reprisals are needed. I am beginning to fight back and I have to say that I'm starting to like it. SJWs are waiting for you to do the Kabuki Theater Cuckservative responses. Being bold makes others bold too. I'm finding that friends and coworkers are stepping up and voicing out more and more. I might be here late to the party with reinforcements, but isn't that how the Battle of the Five Armies finished too?

Blogger wreckage April 21, 2018 10:58 AM  

Seems to me the main problem with the Sad puppies was a lack of persistence. Pick someone who has the energy to do so, and go again. And again, and again. Keep going until the SJWs start leaving in disgust. Only relent when the institution is either owned by our side, or gutted.

Blogger GK Chesterton April 21, 2018 2:31 PM  

I've been disappointed in Brad and Sarah both. Though Sarah seems to have adapted better than Brad has.

Blogger James Dixon April 21, 2018 7:49 PM  

> What kind of civilisation would these people build?

They wouldn't. They might manage grass huts, with some assistance.

Blogger SacrificialLamb April 21, 2018 8:11 PM  

So....the editors of GQ are godless atheist neo-Marxists, and are actively telling people TO NOT READ THE BIBLE?

I remember when mainstream media wasn't so openly anti-Christian and culturally nihilistic. I really do miss those days....

And that crack about Le Guin being more "influential" than Tolkien? Is this a joke? Have these people never heard of the tabletop rpg industry, or the fantasy miniature industry, or the fantasy computer game industry (all of which have been influenced by Tolkien), or even all of the other fantasy novels inspired by Tolkien?

Tolkien inspired entire industries; Le Guin did not.

Blogger Thucydides April 21, 2018 8:32 PM  

Read Le Guin as a kid (there wasn't much in the way of SF in the library those days) as well as LOTR.

For the quality of the writing, I can tell you LOTR and the rest of Tolkien's cannon gets re read by me, I have never bothered to re read Le Guin.

Blogger JT McCleery April 22, 2018 12:48 PM  

Wait a second. I read this a little closer. Then I did a quick search online.

Let me see if I can wrap my brain around this one.

"I and Amanda claimed the right of succession, but never took it, because it was obvious the Hugos were dead, their reputation destroyed and only academics seeking tenure could be interested in them....The only reason we claimed them was to prevent a few deluded people from trying to ride a movement they had nothing to do with to fame."

Let us for the moment ignore that she claimed right of succession, but never took it, but claimed it anyway.

Aside from that, did I read that right? They killed what could have been an interesting cultural movement because there was a slight **possibility** that some people might rise to prominence due to the PR boost from DISCUSSING BOOKS?

God forbid that the woman who routinely boasts that she doesn't need any stinking publisher accidentally help another smaller or indie author get a small bit of PR from the glorified book discussion that she threatened that SP5 would be.

Also, if an author has nothing to do with Sad Puppies, how could one be elevated by Sad Puppies? Does she mean that "Oh no, someone who is not ONE OF US is being talked up in discussions! They may get some sales."

Like how NKJ got the SP4 endorsement for the Hugos?

I did a little bit of background research in my free time this weekend. How many times has this story changed?

In mid-November, 2016 the announcement was "SP5! A book discussion! We're moving away from the Hugos. They're dead." Yay. I guess.

Later that month, on her blog, she notes that she has some medical problems, but "It's not a big deal. I don't need any help." She spent a lot of time screaming at friends and commentators about that.

In January of 2017, there are at least two massive posts at Mad Genius screaming about how "WE'RE IN CHARGE OF SAD PUPPIES!" They both come with an implication that an author is trying to take over Sad Puppies on behalf of Vox. The comments at MCG there and at File 770 imply that it's someone named Finn?

In June of 2017, the Mad Genius Club party line is "Oh, there wasn't going to be a Sad Puppies 5, but then someone (again, the implication is someone named Finn) tried to steal it from us! So we had to do something. And we tried to make a website, but Wordpress is hard. And we were hacked!"

Now, the story has become "We meant to do this the entire time. Honest."

Hoyt should pick a narrative and stick to it. If she was going to kill it, why did she announce SP5 would happen?

And if she was going to kill it, why did she spend thousands of words strongly hinting that this Finn guy / Vox was the problem? And why did she hint that Finn was doing it on behalf of Vox, if Finn doesn't work for Castalia?

Blogger John Wright April 23, 2018 12:46 PM  

For the record, I started as a Sad Puppy because Larry Correia is such a great human being, and, at first, I thought the Hugos could be turned around. George RR Martin convinced me otherwise, and I turned Rabid, and joined the bloodthirsty choir howling to Vox Day and urging him to burn the Hugos to the ground, salt the earth, leave no stone standing on another.

Also for the record, GALAXY'S EDGE is fun and clever and solidly built, half mil sf and half space opera. It is what STAR WARS should have been. Go, Nick Cole!

Ursula Le Guin's early work is readable, and some of it is good, even great. LATHE OF HEAVEN is the beginning of her senile period, where she stopped paying attention to the ordinary craft of storytelling. Basically, an ambitious psychiatrist discovers a passive jellyfish of a man named George Orr can change reality by his dreams, and so attempts to improve the world by hypnotically commanding Orr to dream solutions to various world problems. Each new world thus created is plagued by unmeant consequences, leading the psychiatrist to try again and again.

While this sounds like nothing more than the conservative view of life (that it is a tragedy where every solution has a cost, every improvement is also a loss) my impression was sour: the repeated jellyfish image leads me to conclude the book is preaching passive obedience to the mystical Tao of Lao-Tzu, a philosophy of quietism, which frowns at the act of seeking solutions.

Someone should write a sequel where the psychiatrist is Jordan Peterson, and he tells George Orr to dream about getting his darned room cleaned up.

Blogger great_o'rety April 24, 2018 7:14 AM  

I remember when mainstream media wasn't so openly anti-Christian and culturally nihilistic. I really do miss those days....

Well, Vonnegut is as nihilistic as one can only get and still ended up on the index. This list is nuts. You could reliably follow the VD's advice about listening to scientist and do exactly opposite to what those lunatics recommend.

As for Vonnegut, as much as you can say about the man, his poseur, meticulously cultivated image (naturally-curly-looking-but-fake hair and all) notwithstanding, he at least was undeniably talented and funny. His books are full of undercooked ideas for brilliant SF stories he never cared to follow in full force (on fears of being pigeonholed to what he considered an entirely inferior genre) and their never bore. I would even go so far as to say most would do well to steer clear of his books (the entertaining factor be damned), because he's that good and his nihilism gets infectious.

Blogger great_o'rety April 24, 2018 7:49 AM  

Someone should write a sequel where the psychiatrist is Jordan Peterson, and he tells George Orr to dream about getting his darned room cleaned up.

How fortunate I wasn't drinking any coffee reading this paragraph...LOL. I read quite a lot of Le Guin's back in the day, but not "Lathe of Heaven", so I have no way of being sure, but I'd wager that was probably the only way for this Orr fellow's room to get cleaned up :)

Blogger Matthew April 24, 2018 2:11 PM  

That GQ article at the end is full of Current Year dementia. Every single author to be cast aside is a male, and about half of the replacements are female. Color me shocked.

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