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Thursday, May 17, 2018

And yet the population grows

As US birth rates continue to fall:
The number of babies being born in the United States continues to fall, with the birth rate reaching a new record low in 2017, according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Last year, about 3.8 million babies were born in the U.S., which is 2 percent lower than the number born in 2016, and the lowest recorded number of births in 30 years, according to the report.

What's more, there were about 60 births per 1,000 women ages 15 to 44, which is 3 percent lower than the rate in 2016, and the lowest recorded rate since the government started tracking birth rates in 1909.
This is the real reason for the sterile and secular Left's staunch devotion to immigration. Without it, the fertile religious Right would outnumber it completely in two generations. So, they have recruited alien mercenaries to buy themselves time and keep themselves in the game.

Unfortunately, foolish cuckservatives have embraced the Left's immigrationist rhetoric and are actively cooperating in their own marginalization.

Want to win the cultural war? Get married, have kids, and homeschool them.

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103 Comments:

Blogger pyrrhus May 17, 2018 11:45 AM  

Mass immigration, low native birth rate, declining IQ....what could go wrong?

Blogger Rabbi B May 17, 2018 11:52 AM  

It's a brave new world.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 17, 2018 11:57 AM  

Check on all three

Blogger Tom May 17, 2018 12:00 PM  

This has to be the best sound bite of the year.

"Want to win the cultural war? Get married, have kids, and homeschool them."

Blogger S. Misanthrope May 17, 2018 12:02 PM  

Done, done, and working on it!

Blogger 罗臻 May 17, 2018 12:09 PM  

Immigration policy is 180 degrees out of step with the people's revealed preferences. Those with higher fertility benefit because they children get a higher share of capital investment. Those with low or no fertility generally want environment protected and less crowded cities, cheaper homes.

The irony of Vox's point is that for the non-religious, rising urban home prices is a fertility dampner. Immigration policy is wiping the native left out.

Blogger Anno Ruse May 17, 2018 12:09 PM  

> Want to win the cultural war? Get married, have kids, and homeschool them.

Then move out of the US like Vox Day!

Blogger Jonathan May 17, 2018 12:31 PM  

Get married...to someone of the same race.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 17, 2018 12:33 PM  

From the CDC:

“Among the three largest race and Hispanic-origin groups, the provisional number of births declined 2% for Hispanic and 3% for non-Hispanic white women from 2016 to 2017; the number of births for non-Hispanic black women was essentially unchanged (Table 2) (3). The number of births declined 2% for non-Hispanic Asian and 5% for non-Hispanic AIAN women but was essentially unchanged for non-Hispanic NHOPI women.”

Interesting that Trump's policies have already caused Hispanic and Asian births to drop.

If Trump's policies boost white birth rates, it will only start showing up in 2018 because of the 9-month delay.

In regards to the lack of a drop among dindus, I suspect a baby boomlet caused by Obama's refugee resettlement policy which Trump only repealed in January. It had been resettling record numbers of Africans, and would, again, have an extra 9 months to dribble out baby Somalis and Congolese.

And besides that, unsurprisingly, African chain migration has greatly increased as a whole over the last few decades. The way current immigration policy is set up to favor high-birthrate countries with copious family ties, Africans are guaranteed to replace Latin Americans and Asians in the chain migration flow. Not something we want.

Blogger Rabbi B May 17, 2018 12:39 PM  

Anno Ruse: Making lobotomies great again!

Blogger Rick May 17, 2018 12:40 PM  

Better yet, have 30 kids and start your own school!

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia May 17, 2018 12:48 PM  

How much of this decline is attributable to (1) white male Millenials delaying/opting out of marriage due to poor economic prospects and an inclination to embrace MGTOW, along with (2) the current feminist imperative to ride the cock carousel while proceeding along the careerist cunt path?

Ah, data is easy...causes are hard!

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) May 17, 2018 12:58 PM  

Want to win the cultural war? Get married, have kids, and homeschool them.

Preach.

Blogger Johnny May 17, 2018 12:59 PM  

The one certain thing is that as a population we have lost our way and are slowly doing ourselves in.

Blogger Ceerilan May 17, 2018 1:19 PM  

Originally, the left looked at Americas manufacturing as if it would always be there, so they started taxing. Then the left looked at white America as if it would always be so, saying white people would never be replaced. Then the left looked at Americas remaining wealth thinking we had so very much, so they fed money to the banks to keep them powerful.

Blogger Ledford Ledford May 17, 2018 1:44 PM  

"...the fertile religious Right would outnumber it completely in two generations."

A demographer notes (with mild alarm) that in 2017 minority birth rates fell faster than white birth rates:

https://ifstudies.org/blog/baby-bust-fertility-is-declining-the-most-among-minority-women

Blogger Dirk Manly May 17, 2018 1:46 PM  

@15

"A demographer notes (with mild alarm) that in 2017 minority birth rates fell faster than white birth rates:

https://ifstudies.org/blog/baby-bust-fertility-is-declining-the-most-among-minority-women"

It will decline even faster after we declare open season on hajibs

Blogger Ledford Ledford May 17, 2018 1:46 PM  

The secular/religious birthrate differential in Israel may partly explain the increasing call for European Jews to make Aliyah.

Blogger Looking Glass May 17, 2018 2:04 PM  

@15 Ledford Ledford

Minority birthrates rapidly fall to Liberal White levels, not Religious White levels.

Granted, no one talks about the eventual Amish Conquest of North America.

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 17, 2018 2:08 PM  

Wonder how many white babies are not being reported. Once met an underground midwife in the Pacific Northwest and she said business was booming. Heck if illegals can run around undocumented, well then sauce for the goose...

Blogger Ledford Ledford May 17, 2018 2:09 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:@15 Ledford Ledford

Minority birthrates rapidly fall to Liberal White levels, not Religious White levels.

Granted, no one talks about the eventual Amish Conquest of North America.


Same demographer (you asked):

https://medium.com/migration-issues/how-long-until-were-all-amish-268e3d0de87

Blogger Brett baker May 17, 2018 2:09 PM  

Are you an ex-girlfriend or something?

Blogger Brett baker May 17, 2018 2:13 PM  

Trust me, there'll be an Amish deacon who will receive a revelation to bring fire and sword to the non-Plain.

Blogger Brett baker May 17, 2018 2:13 PM  

Trust me, there'll be an Amish deacon who will receive a revelation to bring fire and sword to the non-Plain.

Blogger Brett baker May 17, 2018 2:13 PM  

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Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 17, 2018 2:16 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:Granted, no one talks about the eventual Amish Conquest of North America.
Something less than half of children born to Amish families wind up joining the church.

Blogger Anno Ruse May 17, 2018 2:17 PM  

> Anno Ruse: Making lobotomies great again!

VD, maybe pay your moderators something, that way you won't get stupid ones who keep replying to "banned and spammed" posts. Or move to a better blog system where you can actually ban people. It's not like I'm going out of my way here. I'm just leaving comments like I did before you "banned and spammed" me.

The funny thing is, I assumed these comments were just being lost until your dopey mods started replying to them.

Blogger Looking Glass May 17, 2018 2:23 PM  

@20 Ledford Ledford

So mid-2200s still from the lower baseline assumption.

The Demographics issue is exactly why the Left has acted the way they have. The Hart-Cellar Act happened at the peak of Irish Catholic demographic & political power. Without the importation of Leftists, they'd have already lost all of the culture wars. The top echelon knew this, which is why they acted the way they did.

May the fires of Hell torment them for all eternity.

Blogger Looking Glass May 17, 2018 2:24 PM  

@23 Brett baker

I would not want to get into a siege engine war with the Amish. Just saying.

Blogger pnq8787 May 17, 2018 2:24 PM  

The presence of black people act as a birth control agent to other, more sensitive, populations. The inherent repelant nature of blacks to more sensitive peoples causes a great motivation to get out of their presence. Since the law prohibits housing discrimination based on race, there must be housing discrimination based on price. Otherwise, people who would be content with smaller, more inexpensive houses would buy them and start having children earlier. Indeed the high house price in not a negative thing but the very feature of the house that is being sought after in a much it is the high price of the house which deters blacks from existing in that space. Thus, the more sensitive populations must work extra hard to get to a place where they feel ready to procreate. The less sensitive populations have no such inhibitions and will procreate at will.

Blogger Looking Glass May 17, 2018 2:26 PM  

@25 Snidely Whiplash

At a TFR of around 7, and even the non-Church attending ones will carry the similar personality traits.

The hyper-industrious eventually get the bright idea to solve a lot of their "problems" by simply removing them. How'd Dr. Pournelle put it?

Blogger VFM #7634 May 17, 2018 2:31 PM  

A demographer notes (with mild alarm) that in 2017 minority birth rates fell faster than white birth rates

@16 Dirk Manly
Nonwhites are adopting liberal white Democrat birth patterns. Which means that the progs are going to fight tooth and nail against any immigration restrictions, harder than they would otherwise.

Blogger Ledford Ledford May 17, 2018 2:31 PM  

In a sense, it goes back to Mr. Day's comment on Jordan Peterson: why expect your kids to be proud of you if you can't be proud of your forebears?

If kids are shamed for pride in their parents, why have them? Why be a father?

Blogger Looking Glass May 17, 2018 2:34 PM  

@25 Snidely Whiplash

If they hold to the more conservative doubling every 30 years, and they have 400k population at 2020.

2050 - 800k
2080 - 1600k
2110 - 3200k
2140 - 6400k
2170 - 12800k
2220 - 25600k
2250 - 51200k

So, yeah, mid-2200s.

The Saxon-Amish Wars of Conquest are going to be Lit.

Anonymous Anonymous May 17, 2018 2:42 PM  

History may well show that industrial civilization, where everything can be cheaply mass-produced except smart people, always succumbs to dysgenic fertility. In that case, refer to a map of Koppen climate zones. In the year 2200, the D and C zones will be populated with Amish farmers, the B zones with Muslim goat-herders, and the A zones with savages running naked through the jungle poking each other with pointy sticks.

Amish birth rates must fall eventually. Even in the best-case scenario, where a shipload of Amish lands on a verdant, uninhabited continent, as the population grows exponentially, so does the average distance one must travel to reach the frontier. When an Amish father in Ohio buys a farm in Iowa for his third son, does he load up a horse cart or call Atlas Van Lines?

Blogger seeingsights May 17, 2018 2:46 PM  

Since the death of Prime Minister Rabin, Israel has had a right--of-center government around 80 percent of the time.
I submit that is due to demographics. Right-of-center Jews have more offspring than liberal Jews. Also Israel has a sensible immigration policy which takes European Jews who are center-right by and large.
Nationalists can learn from Israel (!)

Anonymous Anonymous May 17, 2018 2:48 PM  

"Africans are guaranteed to replace Latin Americans and Asians in the chain migration flow. Not something we want."

Oddly enough, my wife and I were at the local safeway the other day and saw a new sight in our neighborhood: Somalis. This did not cheer us up, to put it mildly.

35 year old Somali man with what looked like a 20 year old wife. Two kids already and she was pregnant with a large belly. Speaking to an immigration physician last year (the kind who does the medical tests for green card applicants), he said that he had never seen a Somalian woman with less than 5 kids.

Of course, the left liberal whites love it when people like this enter the country, while at the same time they are telling us that domestic Americans/Canadians/Brits/etc must reduce their birthrate for the sake of the environment.

It's a scam that has been going on since the end of WW2 in places like the UK and France. Tell the locals not to reproduce while at the same time you import legions of tribal, primitive and rapidly procreating Arabs, Somalis, Indians, Pakis, etc.

Anonymous Anonymous May 17, 2018 2:50 PM  

@34

Same is true in Turkey. I recall seeing a story on changing demographics, and the religious Turks are heavily outbreeding the most westernized secular Turks. One reason why Erdogan has such a lock on power.

Blogger seeingsights May 17, 2018 2:51 PM  

I'm a Generation Xer. We are a smaller generation that the Boomers and Millenials. We are also one of the most right of center generations in history.
That is because the percentage of whites in Gen X is closer to historical averages than the generations after us.

Blogger Ledford Ledford May 17, 2018 2:56 PM  

A traveling salesman's car breaks down in Amish country. He walks up to the farmhouse and the farmer says "You can spend the night here, but you'll have to share a bed with my three point five daughters."

A hundred and fifty years later, his great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren reconquer France.

Blogger yoyodyne May 17, 2018 3:04 PM  

That's what my sister did, 8 kids and most of them home-schooled at least in part.

Blogger AnvilTiger May 17, 2018 3:17 PM  

A science factoid: major municipal water systems no longer dump the cleaned waste water - they recycle it. (So yes, unless you have a well, you are drinking some recycled piss.) However, when women on birth control piss, out comes extra estrogen. The water cleaning process does not remove this. Thus tap water in major municipalities contains ever increasing amounts of estrogen. This negatively impacts male fertility. It is also a suspected cause in young males today having more effeminate physiques, as well as a delay in developing male body hair.

Blogger Dirk Manly May 17, 2018 3:21 PM  

Brett Baker wrote:
> Anne Ruso wrote:
>> Then move out of the US like Vox Day!
> Are you an ex-girlfriend or something?

Worse.
It's Tad the Fag, and his unrequited love.

Blogger tz May 17, 2018 3:25 PM  

In the delicious irony category, The 70% that voted 2x for Obama and Hillary think it will by a Yuge problem when BDS is written into the Democrat's platform

Blacks, Latinos, Sommalis - hey maybe Palenstinian refuges can all go to Minnesota and send millions each week to Hamas! - are either indifferent to Israel or outright opposed.

I'm not a dispensationalist, but the greatest counter-argument I see is how hard the Devil is attempting to destroy the socialist, secular, etc. nation. But the Devil does break his own toys.

Blogger tublecane May 17, 2018 3:34 PM  

OT: I see Trump has judoed the MSM into defending MS-13. They thought they had a gotcha quote with Trump referring to illegal immigrants as a whole as "animals," which of course would mean he's Literally Hitler out to genocide them. (Though of course he had already revealed himself to be Literally Hitler, sometime in whatever context. Take your pick.)

Naturally they didn't backtrack but doubled-down and claimed it's still racist to call a murderous army of criminals animals.

Blogger Lovekraft May 17, 2018 3:35 PM  

An average guy wanting to 1. find a reliable wife of his ethnicity who isn't indoctrinated in grrlpower feminism, 2. get a job that pays enough to support said family even though family ties have been fractured and 3. ensure said children are raised with values that would continue this trend even during 18 years of indoctrination in public schools is similar to:

finding a buried treasure in the dark without a map while the waves crash against you. Not saying it's impossible to find that treasure, just that the odds are ...

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) May 17, 2018 3:43 PM  

3. ensure said children are raised with values that would continue this trend even during 18 years of indoctrination in public schools is similar to:

You missed the part where vox said homeschool.

Reading comprehension is hard.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 May 17, 2018 3:52 PM  

A major problem with the Amish is that they are heavily imbred.

Preferring quality over quantity does apply to birth rates. If whites of IQ ranges between 85 and 90 outbreed everyone then you just get a large class of white criminals.

Blogger AaMcavoy May 17, 2018 3:56 PM  

Lovekraft wrote:An average guy wanting to 1. find a reliable wife of his ethnicity who isn't indoctrinated in grrlpower feminism, 2. get a job that pays enough to support said family even though family ties have been fractured and 3. ensure said children are raised with values that would continue this trend even during 18 years of indoctrination in public schools is similar to:

finding a buried treasure in the dark without a map while the waves crash against you. Not saying it's impossible to find that treasure, just that the odds are ...


Maybe in the cities. Get out of the cities and into a church. Lots of the orthodox presbyterians around where I used to live homeschooled, had five+ kids, who then homeschooled their kids. Also Mormons, though people not raised in it find that faith less palatable, I think, than the OPC's.

Blogger Wanderer May 17, 2018 4:06 PM  

It would be great if the manosphere and alt-right and various other dissident right-wing groups could organize to make divorce reform a thing. Getting married to a former turboslut would be more reasonable if I didn't have my money and children robbed from me by the government through no fault of my own.

Blogger AaMcavoy May 17, 2018 4:11 PM  

Wanderer wrote:It would be great if the manosphere and alt-right and various other dissident right-wing groups could organize to make divorce reform a thing. Getting married to a former turboslut would be more reasonable if I didn't have my money and children robbed from me by the government through no fault of my own.

I think blog.jim.com talks a lot about the forced marriages in the beginning of Australia that turned rather loose women into decent housewives. The kicker was that the women couldn't leave the marriage and the men could physically force their wives monogamy.

Blogger Michael Maier May 17, 2018 4:18 PM  

Want to win the cultural war? Get married, have kids, and homeschool them.

It's on the to do list.

Blogger Bob Loblaw May 17, 2018 4:19 PM  

Interesting that Trump's policies have already caused Hispanic and Asian births to drop.

Mexico's birth rate is barely over replacement level - 2.2 children per woman, last I looked. It's been low for some time now. That's why "Hispanics" coming into the US are more likely to be from places like Guatemala and El Salvador.

Blogger Michael Maier May 17, 2018 4:20 PM  

A traveling salesman's car breaks down in Amish country. He walks up to the farmhouse and the farmer says "You can spend the night here, but you'll have to share a bed with my three point five daughters."

HALF A POINT ON A TEN SCALE???? That's one fugly 4-way.

Blogger Nate May 17, 2018 4:28 PM  

"finding a buried treasure in the dark without a map while the waves crash against you. Not saying it's impossible to find that treasure, just that the odds are ..."

you're right. you should just give up.

Blogger Nate May 17, 2018 4:30 PM  

The masses: VOX VOX!!! WHAT CAN WE DO TO SAVE WESTERN CIVILIZATION!

Vox: do this and this and this.

The Masses: oh... ummm.... wait that sounds like it would be hard to do. And risky. And maybe even dangerous. isn't there an easy way we could save western civilization instead?

Blogger Brian Dean May 17, 2018 4:33 PM  

What if I am an evil person and therefore, I should not be having children?

Blogger insight May 17, 2018 4:34 PM  

"If whites of IQ ranges between 85 and 90 outbreed everyone then you just get a large class of white criminals."

You just described SJWs,progressives,lefttards,white niggers etc...

Blogger kurt9 May 17, 2018 4:35 PM  

This is the real reason for the sterile and secular Left's staunch devotion to immigration. So, they have recruited alien mercenaries to buy themselves time and keep themselves in the game.

I believe this is called "electing a new population". Of course it will backfire on them very badly. But then again liberals always have trouble understanding the concept of unintended consequences.

Blogger Nate May 17, 2018 4:38 PM  

"What if I am an evil person and therefore, I should not be having children?"

everyone is evil dummy. Do you even Christian bro?

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) May 17, 2018 4:59 PM  

everyone is evil dummy. Do you even Christian bro?

We can send him to gitmo

Blogger Brian Dean May 17, 2018 5:25 PM  

"Do you even Christian bro?"

What exactly does that mean? And how is the fact that everyone is evil show that I should have children?

Anonymous Anonymous May 17, 2018 5:34 PM  

As many regulars here know, VD has been saying 'homeschool or die' for meany years. Lest anyone continue in their stupid delusions, take note of what is being taught in public school in a largely 'Christian' state like West Virginia. Also take note that the (((ADL and $PLC))) - ever-ready to ban even instrumental Christmas Carols from music programs in public schools nationwide - never have a word to say about this type of thing, since some religions are more equal than others. Public schools have been teaching Islam for over a decade now, upheld several times by federal blackrobed philosopha-kangz.

Blogger SciVo May 17, 2018 5:45 PM  

I can almost understand the Establishment wanting to export industrial production to countries with weaker environmental and labor laws. Their profits go up, and it isn't their job market, air, water, working conditions, or communities that suffer. It's somewhat rational, at least for narcissistic sociopaths.

But how dementedly solipsistic do you have to be to export your fecundity to the Turd World?! It's self-evident that low-IQ, high-aggression population replacements can't prop up top-heavy social welfare systems, given that they take more out than they put in.

But that's the least of it! When you're physically helpless in your old age, you'll be lucky if they don't get drunk, break into your nursing home, rape you, and kill your wife. Or work there, and laugh at your dying breaths.

The transnational managerial class likes to pose as sophisticated cosmopolitans; but in reality, a Native European must be the most ignorant of naifs -- having been born yesterday, and then immediately fallen off a turnip truck -- to believe that domestic anti-natalism + foreign food aid + open borders = a bright future.

Blogger Looking Glass May 17, 2018 6:10 PM  

@62 SciVo

Leftism is a religion of Serfdom. It's highly feudal in nature, and seeks to replicate it in all possible manners. There weren't many feudal lords, but there were a lot of underlings. The public facing "intellectuals" are thus always heralding the virtues of their masters, whom they try to pleasure, lest they be left to being killed the masses. Or, their worst fear, have to live with the serfs.

That's why they had to murder Christian theology over the last 300 years. The elites need their underlings afraid of them, not God.

The feudalistic aspects of all Leftism really dials in the analysis of it as a religion. It all comes from the elite-supported philosophical movements that spawned as the feudal age was ending and larger nations were starting to come together. That's also why they've always been so hostile to Nation States: they have a clear instinctual hatred of the post-Westphalia system.

This is one of the reasons why the public-facing ones are such rootless cosmopolitans. The think of themselves as working to secure a spot within the castle walls, thus they're only concerned about keeping that spot. Then, if something goes wrong, they'll retreat to another castle: in this case, another country. Since the entire class lacks any introspection, they can't understand why it keeps happening. (They aren't paid to understand Cause & Effect.)

Anonymous Anonymous May 17, 2018 6:12 PM  

A demographer notes (with mild alarm) that in 2017 minority birth rates fell faster than white birth rates

Who will supply gays with fatherless niglet boys if these trends continue.

(((Modern Family))) the gay couple is adopting a blond boy just like Ben Stein

OT- Peace Corpse starts firing HIV+ men willing to work with kids in shitholes. Who would have thought.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/05/peace-corps-firing-gay-men-test-positive-hiv/

Blogger Duh-ave May 17, 2018 6:26 PM  

DON'T PANIC! 60 kids per year for the 30 year fertility period given is still 1800 births per 1000 moms. During the great depression that number was about 2200 but the infant mortality then was huge. The surviving number of kids are about the same for both eras. We can pull out of this just as we did then. All we need is a return of the middle class and faith in God.

Blogger Nate May 17, 2018 6:30 PM  

"What exactly does that mean? And how is the fact that everyone is evil show that I should have children?"

You claimed the reason you should not have children is because you are evil. I explained why that particular reason was invalid.

if you have other reasons... like maybe you're particularly dim and you don't want to contributing to lowering the collective IQ even more... then maybe you really shouldn't reproduce. But simply saying "I'm evil" is not a good reason. We're all evil.

Blogger Cecil Henry May 17, 2018 6:37 PM  

Calling Jordan Peterson:

https://i.imgur.com/27uMbxF.jpg

Blogger GAHCindy May 17, 2018 6:52 PM  

" And how is the fact that everyone is evil show that I should have children?"

Repent, follow Jesus, then have children.

Blogger L' Aristokrato May 17, 2018 6:52 PM  

Unrelated to the topic, but just FYI, Jean-François Gariépy will be doing a stream about how 'Sargon of Assad' misrepresented Vox' critique of the most-holiest Saint Peterson.

Blogger electricsheeple May 17, 2018 7:01 PM  

Sorry to be off topic, JF Gariepy is doing a live show on VD. Would love to see Vox on JF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFbROBXhecQ

Blogger Brian Dean May 17, 2018 7:08 PM  

"You claimed the reason you should not have children is because you are evil. I explained why that particular reason was invalid."

If everyone is evil then maybe nobody should have children. Also, I asked you what "Do you Christian bro?" means. Why didn't you answer it?

Blogger Brian Dean May 17, 2018 7:10 PM  

"Repent, follow Jesus, then have children."

What if I have committed the sin mentioned in Hebrews 6:4-6?

Blogger Dire Badger May 17, 2018 7:32 PM  

AaMcavoy wrote:Lovekraft wrote:An average guy wanting to 1. find a reliable wife of his ethnicity who isn't indoctrinated in grrlpower feminism, 2. get a job that pays enough to support said family even though family ties have been fractured and 3. ensure said children are raised with values that would continue this trend even during 18 years of indoctrination in public schools is similar to:

finding a buried treasure in the dark without a map while the waves crash against you. Not saying it's impossible to find that treasure, just that the odds are ...


Maybe in the cities. Get out of the cities and into a church. Lots of the orthodox presbyterians around where I used to live homeschooled, had five+ kids, who then homeschooled their kids. Also Mormons, though people not raised in it find that faith less palatable, I think, than the OPC's.


Not Utah anymore. When I came here 15 years ago, it was a great place to live, the mormons were good neighbors, and Salt Lake was a clean and fairly decent place.

Today West Valley has become unliveable MS13 gangland, there are bums on every corner begging for handouts, a quarter of the cars have gay propaganda bumper stickers, and half the employees at Deseret Industries are Muslim.

Small Towns and homesteading are becoming the new 'Gay thing'. The only thing better about them is the lower crime rates, which is generally made up for by the fact that cities are frantically exporting their useless welfare cases into those small towns in order to 'gentrify'.

My own neighborhood went from white nerd heaven to section 8 shithole in less than 3 years. It's probably past time to move.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 17, 2018 7:38 PM  

@Dire Badger

The consequences of cycling and McMuffining.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 17, 2018 7:38 PM  

*cucking. For crap sake.

Blogger Dire Badger May 17, 2018 7:43 PM  

Brian Dean wrote:"Repent, follow Jesus, then have children."

What if I have committed the sin mentioned in Hebrews 6:4-6?


Then you would have been alive for a very, very long time.

Then again, I figured it was probably a rhetorical device to point out that it is pretty much impossible to truly see the reality of Christ and the kingdom of heaven and then reject it... As far as I know, Lucifer was the only one that ever succeeded. Lucifer is the ultimate SJW.

Blogger Dire Badger May 17, 2018 7:44 PM  

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Blogger Dire Badger May 17, 2018 7:45 PM  

Mcmuffining?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 17, 2018 8:30 PM  

Brian Dean wrote:"Repent, follow Jesus, then have children."

What if I have committed the sin mentioned in Hebrews 6:4-6?

Stop bragging. you're not special. Not in any way, sugar tits.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants May 17, 2018 9:16 PM  

@78 Dire Badger I'm assuming McMuffining is a verbal play on Evan McMullin's nickname, Eggs McMuffin.
I'm certain it's something you never want to do or be.

Blogger GAHCindy May 17, 2018 9:22 PM  

Then you won't be much interested in repentance, and the way of the ungodly will perish, so...

But you can repent, I'd bet. Paul was talking about some deliberate traitors to the faith. and not mere backsliders.

If you think you're the man in the iron cage, as in The Pilgrim's Progress, I won't be the one to try to convince you otherwise. The Lord is merciful, though. Try him.

Blogger Ezekiel May 17, 2018 10:01 PM  

Duh-ave wrote:DON'T PANIC! 60 kids per year for the 30 year fertility period given is still 1800 births per 1000 moms. During the great depression that number was about 2200 but the infant mortality then was huge. The surviving number of kids are about the same for both eras. We can pull out of this just as we did then. All we need is a return of the middle class and faith in God.
...or another worldwide war on behalf of international zionism against whichever group of people are getting too uppity this time. My bet is on the Persians.

Anonymous Anonymous May 17, 2018 11:13 PM  

Want to win the cultural war? Get married, have kids, and homeschool them.

We need that AND the Wall AND extreme immigration reform for the numbers to work out.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) May 17, 2018 11:55 PM  

33. Dave May 17, 2018 2:42 PM
When an Amish father in Ohio buys a farm in Iowa for his third son, does he load up a horse cart or call Atlas Van Lines?



you don't know the Amish at all.

the Amish use bus / vans all the time. there's an Amish bus service that runs from the Midwest down to Florida, because there are Amish communities down there and they like to visit.

the Amish farmer with a pay phone installed out at the road is a notorious joke amongst us 'English'.

the Amish aren't permitted to OWN these things themselves. there's nothing against them being conveyed on them or putting a quarter in a phone and 'renting' it.

also, there are very, very few hook-and-eye ( no buttons or zippers, too modernish ) type Amish left. there are some Amish churches which permit internal combustion powered lawn mowers now.

Blogger SmokeyJoe May 18, 2018 2:27 AM  

72. Brian Dean May
"Repent, follow Jesus, then have children."

"What if I have committed the sin mentioned in Hebrews 6:4-6?"

Are you referring to the "unpardonable sin?"

Blogger Harambe May 18, 2018 3:08 AM  

Meanwhile the Dread Ilk are churning out babies like a factory.

Blogger Brian Dean May 18, 2018 5:16 AM  

"Stop bragging. you're not special."

None of us are. A starfish can regenerate limbs. Also, there is a species of jellyfish called Turritopsis dohrnii which is immortal. When they grow old, they can regenerate into a younger version of themselves. If animals are intelligently designed then why did the designer give the jellyfish immortality and not us?

Blogger Wanderer May 18, 2018 6:06 AM  

Brian Dean wrote:If animals are intelligently designed then why did the designer give the jellyfish immortality and not us?
Well, we were made to be immortal originally. Then came Satan and through him came sin, decay, and death. This is like the first or second page of the Bible. Pretty entry level stuff.

Blogger wreckage May 18, 2018 7:11 AM  

Got married, got kids, homeschooling because they inherited autism off me and the modern tolerant enlightened etc school system had them showing all the symptoms of a distressed animal.

@87 why would I care? Here it is: are you a materialist? I'm better than you. I reproduced. Game over. Either live your philosophy, or admit that it is an untenable, hence pathological, memetic infection.

Your ideas are an infection, a disease, an informational virus infesting your neural net. Correct them, or do not correct them, but kindly stop the passive-aggressive whining.

Oh, you like being annoying? Go get your submission kink somewhere else if that's what it is.

Blogger Brian Dean May 18, 2018 8:46 AM  

"Here it is: are you a materialist? I'm better than you. I reproduced. Game over."

You knowingly created people with autism. Wow, everyone should bow to your moral insight!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 18, 2018 10:15 AM  

Brian Dean wrote:You knowingly created people with autism. Wow, everyone should bow to your moral insight!
Kill yourself, don't kill yourself, just stop whining, you pathetic, mewling faggot. No one cares

Blogger wreckage May 18, 2018 11:57 AM  

Yes I did, and I would have created more, but *yo momma joke here*

Blogger wreckage May 18, 2018 11:59 AM  

Thing is, while there are very painful aspects to my existence, I am deeply and profoundly at peace with who and what I am. Given the opportunity, I'd have "knowingly created" a dozen more.

The age of normies is ended. The hour of the pede is at hand. Here is your moral wisdom, here is your insight. Here. In me.

Blogger AaMcavoy May 18, 2018 12:00 PM  

Dire Badger wrote:

Not Utah anymore. When I came here 15 years ago, it was a great place to live, the mormons were good neighbors, and Salt Lake was a clean and fairly decent place.

Today West Valley has become unliveable MS13 gangland, there are bums on every corner begging for handouts, a quarter of the cars have gay propaganda bumper stickers, and half the employees at Deseret Industries are Muslim.

Small Towns and homesteading are becoming the new 'Gay thing'. The only thing better about them is the lower crime rates, which is generally made up for by the fact that cities are frantically exporting their useless welfare cases into those small towns in order to 'gentrify'.

My own neighborhood went from white nerd heaven to section 8 shithole in less than 3 years. It's probably past time to move.


True. Very true. I left a gay, crap-hole city for Utah, only to find the liberals had beat me to it and were already calling for more gays and more people to crap on the streets. But not their streets. Salt Lake's streets. But not by Temple Square.

Mormons are too dumb to keep the society our ancestors built for us. The LDS Pres just called for more racial harmony, without giving any details. Rather than thinking to allow people to at least self-segregate or enforce strict rules, Mormons interpret this to mean befriending more blacks and having them live next door. An ER doc in Provo just watched, with sadness, his daughter marry a Nigerian she met in Idaho. He didn't think he should express his disapproval.

Anonymous Anonymous May 18, 2018 12:30 PM  

Getting married later this year, planning having as many children as my wife's body can handle (I want 5-10 but realistically due to her and my age, early 30s, we'll be lucky to get 4), and planning for her to homeschool all of them. She's going to be a SAHM once #1 comes into the world.

Blogger SirHamster May 18, 2018 2:28 PM  

Brian Dean wrote:If animals are intelligently designed then why did the designer give the jellyfish immortality and not us?

He did give us immortality.

If you're going to reference the Bible, why not read it before criticizing in ignorance?

Blogger rumpole5 May 18, 2018 4:35 PM  

And clean your room while yoy're at it.

Blogger rumpole5 May 18, 2018 4:40 PM  

Even if 6 of your 10 children leave the church, you've increased the population of your church.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 18, 2018 4:44 PM  

But not the proportion of your inbred cult to the general population.

Blogger Brian Dean May 19, 2018 10:39 AM  

"He did give us immortality."

What is your objectively verifiable evidence for this?

Blogger Dire Badger May 23, 2018 6:22 PM  

Brian Dean wrote:"He did give us immortality."

What is your objectively verifiable evidence for this?


Right next to your objectively verifiable proof of the opposite.

Go troll somewhere else, F*ckface.

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