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Wednesday, May 16, 2018

In defense of Jordan Peterson

You know, Jordan Peterson must be a real threat to the mainstream, a true dark intellectual renegade, when The Weekly Standard rushes to his defense because someone suggested that he just might possibly be less than entirely philosemitic. After all, we know that the mainstream media always makes it an absolute top priority to see that false accusations are exposed whenever someone is inaccurately accused of being insufficiently enthusiastic about minorities who are no different than anyone else except for being smarter and harder working and more successful or are falsely accused of membership in the defunct German National Socialist Workers Party, right?

I know I have always appreciated the forthright way with which The Weekly Standard staunchly defended President Trump, and all his loyal supporters, and GamerGate, and the Sad Puppies, and indeed, myself, from all manner of false and scurrilious charges.
Unscrupulously, Feldman also hid from readers all the notable Jewish individuals from across the political spectrum who’ve written or spoken positively about Jordan Peterson and his work. To name a few: Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, Harvard’s Steven Pinker, psychiatrist Norman Doidge, professor Jonathan Haidt, author Howard Bloom, novelist Melanie Phillips, journalist Barbara Kay, professor Gad Saad, editor Jonathan Kay, comedian Dave Rubin, writer Cathy Young, biologist Bret Weinstein, author Ben Shapiro, comedian Bill Maher, New York Times columnists David Brooks and Bari Weiss.

It’s frankly astonishing that not one editor at the Forward had the professionalism to insist on gathering some testimony on behalf of the accused from any of these reputable people. Evidently, at the Forward, it’s perfectly acceptable journalism to ask a loaded question about a man and then stack the deck against him by quoting only his accusers. One of those anti-Peterson complainants—Heidi Beirich from the controversial Southern Poverty Law Center—even suggested (without any evidence) that Peterson could be seen as “a possible ally in Holocaust denial.”

In sum, what Feldman did was to 1) lie about a neo-Nazi’s opinion of Peterson; 2) use that lie to suggest he has a vast neo-Nazi following at the Daily Stormer; 3) conceal all the Jews who like him; and 4) seek out political partisans to smear him as a possible Holocaust denier.

It’s as unethical as it’s unconvincing. Even the most superficial reading of Peterson’s oeuvre suffices to show he’s an uncompromising enemy of anti-Semitism–and a real friend to the Jewish people. As he demonstrates in his detailed response to Feldman, he has spent the last 30 years “lecturing and teaching about the horrors of the Holocaust.”
It's interesting, is it not, that it is so important for the media - supposedly Peterson's enemy, who, we are told are just waiting to pounce on any mistake it can use to ruin him - to defend him from discrediting and disqualification? After this and The New York Times puff piece, how much more confirmation do you require to accept that he is Fake Opposition?

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34 Comments:

Blogger Brick Hardslab May 16, 2018 11:15 AM  

Everywhere I go people are still treating him like he's on our side. Even when he says, "I'm a liberal," they take that to mean, "I am a liberal, wink, wink, I'm really on your side." Whatever side that might be.

Peterson is as Vox said compressed bullshit. People are projecting whatever it is that they want from him and hearing only what suits them. He could say, "I'm an occultist who dreams of eating the flesh of the nubile girls in my family while wandering through a world of destruction," and people would hear, "Blah, blah, blah, Jungian deep, blah, blah, blah. Save the West."

Blogger Brian S May 16, 2018 11:15 AM  

All those dog whistles nearly deafened me

Blogger Robert Divinity May 16, 2018 11:17 AM  

It's interesting, is it not, that it is so important for the media - supposedly Peterson's enemy, whom we are told is just waiting to pounce on any mistake it can use to ruin him - to defend him from discrediting and disqualification?

Yes, almost as interesting as what it really takes is a charge of anti-Semitism to discredit and disqualify someone. That's apparently much, much worse than a psychotic serving as a mental health provider to troubled young goy boys.

Blogger Hylean May 16, 2018 11:20 AM  

So they have explicitly revealed their semitism standards. That's good to know. I'm not anti-Semitic by the same standards as Jordan Peterson!

Blogger OneWingedShark May 16, 2018 11:22 AM  

This infographic was put together on /pol/ here, and shows some interesting connections. Particularly interesting is the "Purple Revolution" idea of which Antifa was supposed to play a major part.

Blogger PCA May 16, 2018 11:24 AM  

"WHOM we are told is just waiting"

The media is subject in this clause, not object. It should be WHO.

Blogger Damn Crackers May 16, 2018 11:24 AM  

Overreach is going to destroy Peterson. He'll start discussing how Disney's "Sleeping Beauty" represents the archetype of the black woman or something, and it'll be over for him in a torrent of tears caught on camera.

Blogger pyrrhus May 16, 2018 11:47 AM  

With this kind of praise coming from such high authority, are we really sure that Peterson is white?

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener May 16, 2018 11:52 AM  

After this and The New York Times puff piece, how much more confirmation do you require to accept that he is Fake Opposition?

A Voight-Kampff test perhaps?

Blogger OGRE May 16, 2018 12:01 PM  

Damn Crackers wrote: He'll start discussing how Disney's "Sleeping Beauty" represents the archetype of the black woman or something, and it'll be over for him in a torrent of tears caught on camera.

oh hes already done that. He hates Frozen but loves Sleeping Beauty and Moana.

http://time.com/5176537/jordan-peterson-frozen-movie-disney/

Blogger JuliusEvola.co May 16, 2018 12:33 PM  

Still waiting for you to bring all of Peterson's connections to light. Anyway, thanks for speaking the truth about him. You're doing God's work.

Blogger Damn Crackers May 16, 2018 12:38 PM  

I saw his presentation on Frozen. You don't have to be a genius to know it's feminist trash. But, we have more evidence that his metaphysics is Hermetic Hegelian garbage too:


"My God is the spirit that is trying to elevate Being. My God is the spirit that makes everything come together. My God is the spirit that makes order out of chaos and then recasts order when it has become too limiting. My God is the spirit of truth incarnate. None of that is supernatural. It is instead what is most real. It depends on what you mean by pray. I don't ask God for favors, if that's what you mean."- Reddit Ask Me Anything, 2017

Blogger VFM #7634 May 16, 2018 12:40 PM  

@Damn Crackers

My take: Peterson is definitely a pantheist.

Blogger JuliusEvola.co May 16, 2018 12:41 PM  

@1

People make all kind of appeals in Peterson's defense. "Oh, he did this, and that..." I've found the most effective response is to remind them that actions speak louder than words... and yeah, recall him editing the NWO document and being a Soros shill?

OpenID nikephoros-ii May 16, 2018 12:43 PM  

Even with all the Peterson criticism, it hadn't dawned on me that nearly every public "intellectual" that Peterson has a sustained relationship with is Jewish.

Shapiro, Saad, Haidt, Harris, Sommers, Weinstein, Rubin.

I mean, we know that they're (((overrepresented))) in media, but that is REALLY overrepresented.

The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is Steven Crowder.

Blogger JuliusEvola.co May 16, 2018 12:54 PM  

@13

From 12 Rules:

>The Bible is a library
composed of many books, each written and edited by many people. It’s a truly emergent document—a
selected, sequenced and finally coherent story written by no one and everyone over many thousands of
years. The Bible has been thrown up, out of the deep, by the collective human imagination, which is itself
a product of unimaginable forces operating over unfathomable spans of time.

>We evolved, over millennia, within intensely social circumstances.

>I rid myself, to the bottom of my soul, of primate-dominance
motivations and moral superiority.

>It is deceit that fills human souls
with resentment and vengefulness.

>The truth springs forth ever anew from the most profound wellsprings of Being. It will keep your soul
from withering and dying while you encounter the inevitable tragedy of life

>The Christian doctrine elevated the individual
soul, placing slave and master and commoner and nobleman alike on the same metaphysical footing,
rendering them equal before God and the law.

>In
consequence, the metaphysical conception of the implicit transcendent worth of each and every soul
established itself against impossible odds as the fundamental presupposition of Western law and society
The idea that hell exists
in some metaphysical manner is not only ancient, and pervasive; it’s true. Hell is eternal. It has always
existed. It exists now. It’s the most barren, hopeless and malevolent subdivision of the underworld of
chaos, where disappointed and resentful people forever dwell.
The mind is its own place, and in itself
Can make a Heav’n of Hell, a Hell of Heav’n.

According to Peterson, the Bible is a product of evolution.

If the bible and its God is only a story and a product of evolution, God isn't actually real. And if humans simply just evolved, humans can't have a soul because no actual God exists and metaphysical things can't come into existence by some progressive material process. Peterson is using the word soul as a synonym for mind, which today just means the element of "consciousness" in the material brain that allows one a sense of identity and self.

For Peterson, metaphysical things are one in the same as ideas of the human mind. As Peterson believes the human mind is actually physical only, """metaphysical""" things are the product of the chemical, determined process that is man (according to Peterson).

You can't take anything he says at face value. He's a charlatan. He doesn't believe in God, actual gods, or actual metaphysical things. He's a sophistry spewing charlatan.

Blogger JuliusEvola.co May 16, 2018 1:11 PM  

Aristotle - Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but we rather have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.

Jordan Peterson - Clean your room, Bucko.

Blogger R Webfoot May 16, 2018 1:25 PM  

'If the bible and its God is only a story and a product of evolution, God isn't actually real. And if humans simply just evolved, humans can't have a soul because no actual God exists and metaphysical things can't come into existence by some progressive material process. Peterson is using the word soul as a synonym for mind, which today just means the element of "consciousness" in the material brain that allows one a sense of identity and self.'

C.S. Lewis's materialist magician, as another commentator has said.

I think he desperately wanted to believe in God, and read Jung until his mind snapped, and an Eureka came to him: "Wait! God was inside us THE WHOLE TIME! And you can talk to Him with mushrooms!"

Blogger JuliusEvola.co May 16, 2018 1:30 PM  

@18
LOL. Something like that. The fact that he's connected to Soros, Podesta, and MK Ultra only makes it more concerning though.

Blogger Crew May 16, 2018 1:32 PM  

he has spent the last 30 years “lecturing and teaching about the horrors of the Holocaust.

He is probably unaware, then, that a great portion of those, ahhh, horrors took place in Riga and that there is evidence that the SS orchestrated looting and executions there.

http://fpp.co.uk/books/Hitler/2001/HW1.pdf

Look at the footnotes.

Blogger Anno Ruse May 16, 2018 1:51 PM  

> He hates Frozen but loves Sleeping Beauty and Moana.

Probably because Frozen's climax involves familial love. Judging by his crazy cousin cannibal dream, he can't get into loving a family member without wanting to fuck/consume/own them. No doubt he's got some Elsa/Anna porn on his "bucko's secrets" drive.

I'm quite surprised he's not an only child. He bears all the marks of being mommy's "special boy" who is "so smart". Maybe he's the only boy.

Blogger Dirk Manly May 16, 2018 2:03 PM  

The castle is ice-porn.

Blogger Damn Crackers May 16, 2018 2:19 PM  

@18 I think he desperately wanted to believe in God, and read Jung until his mind snapped, and an Eureka came to him: "Wait! God was inside us THE WHOLE TIME! And you can talk to Him with mushrooms!"

Another Gnostic heretic..."Since the divine spark is within me, I can speak for God!"

Blogger Brett baker May 16, 2018 3:57 PM  

(Runs away to scrub files)

Blogger Brett baker May 16, 2018 3:58 PM  

(Runs away to scrub files)

Blogger Neutrinoide May 16, 2018 4:31 PM  

Still talking bout him? He really is in your haed man. Get over it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 16, 2018 4:39 PM  

Neutrinoide wrote:Get over it.
You really don't get it. So long as you retards keep pestering Vox over it, he's going to keep pointing out what a bunch of incontent, emotionally-driven, effeminate, mentally unstable morons you are, and tearing you tin god to tiny shreds.
Enjoy it, cause it's not stopping any time soon.

Blogger Frank Lee May 16, 2018 4:41 PM  

Yeah, it's starting to look kind of obvious.

From the powerful elite who thought:

Hillary Clinton will win the general election if we just fix the google search results the right way.

You can easily impeach Trump with a phony Russian Conspiracy.

Stormy Daniels will turn women against Trump.

These same elites now think, "Hmm… how do we lead all those alt-right supporters by the nose? Hmm… a Canadian intellectual who challenges the liberals! Perfect! It can't go wrong!"

So stupid it must be true. From the gang who can't shoot straight.

OpenID crapulux May 16, 2018 4:42 PM  

Brick Hardslab wrote:Everywhere I go people are still treating him like he's on our side. Even when he says, "I'm a liberal," they take that to mean, "I am a liberal, wink, wink, I'm really on your side." Whatever side that might be.

It seems many conservatives desperately want to have a pet leftist who agrees with them on "most issues" and is their "friend".

Blogger Don't Call Me Len May 16, 2018 5:40 PM  

Everybody has their breaking point:

"These EVOL CORPOORASHUNS don't pay Their Fair Share™ and are destroying America!"

"You know, Jews are disproportionately represented at the top of many of those cor-"

"ANTISEMITE! They're there cuz they're GENIUSES and you're just jelly!"

Blogger DonReynolds May 16, 2018 6:04 PM  

What in Hell is a "possible holocaust denier"? Either they are or they are not. How does someone become suspected of doing something without having done it. Lemmie guess, the same way all men are "possible rapists" or all whites are "possible racists"? Give me a break.

Blogger tublecane May 16, 2018 6:34 PM  

@30- "Either they are or they are not"

Yes, but how do you know? By them publicly airing the slightest doubt about the veracity of the Holocaust Narrative, for one.

If they clear that hurdle, check for "dog-whistles" and other signs of crypto-"denial." Keep digging until you find something or you die.

Why are we exhaustively searching for something that might not exist? Because Peterson is a mild critic of the Narrative, and Evull White Supreeemist Natsees kinda like him. Which means he's probably a natsee, too.

Sorta like how they don't like Trump, therefore Trump must be a criminal.

Blogger English Tom May 16, 2018 9:42 PM  

Robert Divinity

As Voltaire said: "to know who rules over you, see who you are not allowed to criticise."

Blogger Ian Stein May 16, 2018 9:59 PM  

I'm petered out. Going back to my original 12 step program.

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