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Wednesday, May 30, 2018

Moderates mourn the middle ground

It's interesting to see how the mainstream media is belatedly discovering the fact that there is no longer any middle ground between Americans and the 100 million Not-Americans who invaded the dirt that turned out to lack the necessary magic. One has to wonder what they thought was going to happen in light of the post-1965 immigration changes. Were they really that ignorant of the consequences of every previous mass human migration?
More and more voices are raising concerns that the 2018 elections will ignite a terrible clash between supporters of President Trump and his increasingly agitated critics in a partisan battle that has been brewing for years.

Stanley Greenberg, former President Bill Clinton’s pollster, is warning of a “civil war.” Purdue University President Mitchell E. Daniels, former President Ronald Reagan’s political director and a two-term Indiana Republican governor, sees the nation dividing into feuding “tribes” that gravitate to tyrants who “bludgeon” opponents.

In two separate reports, the two opposites come to a similar conclusion that the nation and even families are terribly divided and that the media has played a big role in creating the split.

Daniels is well regarded as level-headed and has been dubbed the best university president in the nation. He has used his commencement addresses to push for openness and understanding, but this year he noted a shift to “tribalism,” where sides cluster in cliques.

“It’s no longer just a matter of Americans not knowing and understanding each other. We’ve seen these clusters deepen, and harden, until separation has led to anger, misunderstanding turned into hostility. At the individual level, it’s a formula for bitterness and negativity. For a self-governing people, it’s poison,” Daniels told his students this month.

Among the culprits he cited were biased media, the “anti-social media.” Said Daniels, “Our various modern media lead us to, and feed us from information sources that reinforce our existing biases. They put us in contact with other tribe members, but rarely those who see things differently. We’re starting to resemble ominously our primitive forebearers, trusting no one outside the tribe.”

And he called that “dangerous,” warning “almost all of history has belonged to the tyrants, the warlords, the autocrats, the totalitarians. And tribes always gravitate toward tyrants.”

He didn’t name names, mention President Trump or former President Barack Obama, on purpose. The reason: both sides and their mouthpieces are to blame. “It’s a general phenomenon,” he said in an interview in which he bemoaned “there is no overlap anymore.”
What I want every civic nationalist, every centrist, and every moderate to consider, and eventually, come to terms with is the fact that this is precisely the destiny they helped create. Every single identity-conflicted individual to whom I have ever spoken tries to carve out an exception for their wife, their children, their neighbords, their colleagues, their friends, and their immigrant grandparents. Every single one.

And that's understandable. I have no problem understanding the temptation to do so, being an identity-conflicted first-generation immigrant myself. But this is a category error; the vast majority of the micro exceptions are totally irrelevant when it comes to the macro issue. Reality doesn't care that you think it would be really terrible to be forced to choose between your nation and your neighbor, or between your family and your friend. War does not require your approval in order to take place.

Despite the largest invasion in recorded human history, most people in the United States have not been materially affected in a way they recognize. That is why they are oblivious to the obvious, and why they will most likely remain oblivious until it is far too late to do anything about the situation.

Donald Trump isn't even trying to address the situation. The efforts of most politicians will only make things worse. Jordan Peterson's Hail Mary assault on human nature will fail too. The desperate measures that are now required to salvage the nation and avert a war that will make the Civil War look like a casual warmup are on the level of those utilized for the Spanish Reconquista, and are not even close to being politically viable yet. Six years ago, I was warning you about this. Now the likes of Stanley Greenberg and Mitch Daniels are doing the same.

You have about 12-15 years to prepare for this now, possibly less, in my estimation.

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156 Comments:

Blogger Longtime Lurker May 30, 2018 9:24 AM  

The process is already well advanced in California. It's there for the rest of the country to see. No excuses when the hammer falls.

Blogger English Tom May 30, 2018 9:24 AM  

Vox it could come a lot sooner. Once the economic collapse intensifies, the search for scapegoats will be on and the impulse to tribalism will accelerate even faster. The Turner Diaries on steroids!

Blogger Johnny May 30, 2018 9:26 AM  

I don't read this stuff any more. At best I just skim through it.

Let see, "feuding “tribes” that gravitate to tyrants who “bludgeon” opponents." Well, you know, it is only tyrants bludgeoning when it is us, not them.

"a shift to tribalism" Hey guy, it has always been tribalism on the other side.

A typical academic, therefore well thought of. The milder well thought of ones use neutral language but always implicitly addressed to those they disagree with. I get just so tired of the casual bias.

Blogger Brick Hardslab May 30, 2018 9:42 AM  

If any of the mainstream republican candidates had taken Trump's position on the border, immigration and trade they would have swept the nomination process.

None did, they explicitly counter-signalled. Immigration, free market, and the national economy are not totems or gods. They acted like Trump was frothing at the mouth mad.

Now they can live with the consequences. Too bad for them.

Blogger Gloriam Deo May 30, 2018 9:46 AM  

Sounds good to me. Let's get this show on the road.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 30, 2018 9:52 AM  

No fun and games there, GD. Civil War is hell.

Blogger Zapp Brannigan May 30, 2018 9:53 AM  

"We’ve seen these clusters deepen, and harden, until separation has led to anger, misunderstanding turned into hostility."

No, there's no misunderstanding. The two sides fully understand each other. That's the problem.

Blogger Desdichado May 30, 2018 9:58 AM  

"The desperate measures that are now required to salvage the nation and avert a war that will make the Civil War look like a casual warmup are on the level of the Spanish , and are not even close to being politically viable yet."

I presume there's a missing Inquisition there?

Another good comparison is what the Anglo settlers did to the Indian nations. Either we're going to do it to the current crop of colonists and invaders, or they're going to do it to us. Two cultures can't occupy the same space at the same time.

Blogger Unknown May 30, 2018 9:58 AM  

Not 12-15 years. The tipping point has already been reached. There is nothing that can be done now that will turn back the tide. Even if the women of the West find their moral compass and the men of the West their testicles, brown women generally don't take The Pill. The androgynous species that GMO and technology are turning whites into don't have the stones to match Smart Islam, which has been growing by stealth for the last 30 years and is now ready to emerge. The upside is that you won't see it coming.

Blogger Rocklea Marina May 30, 2018 10:00 AM  

More than two sides, think about how permutations of people's are possible, under just two sub-categories, religion and ethnicity for example.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 30, 2018 10:03 AM  

Smart Islam has still been defeated every time, albeit at great cost every time.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey May 30, 2018 10:04 AM  

The great cataclysm should have happened in 2008. That was the natural timing for it. They managed to kick the can again, pretty much always a bad idea. Now the poisons are even more systemic, financially, culturally, politically, all across the West. And also insuring that when she does blow, it'll be an order of magnitude worse than what it should have been.

Blogger insight May 30, 2018 10:08 AM  

"More than two sides, think about how permutations of people's are possible, under just two sub-categories, religion and ethnicity for example."

Ethnicity trumps everything even Christian brotherhood.

Blogger Gloriam Deo May 30, 2018 10:10 AM  

@6 Perhaps, but getting the fight over with is preferable to having it hang over your head. Besides, violence is fun and damn the naysayers.

Blogger James Jones May 30, 2018 10:11 AM  

He misses the point. It is the civilised versus the barbaric. It is the shiny secularists versus the theists. It is Western Culture versus the pagans. It is the global elite versus the common man. It is the mentally challenged on the left versus the sane. It is the emotionally challenged snowflakes versus the mentally healthy. It is the prince of this world versus the church. It is good versus evil. To reduce it down to media led tribalism is completely missing the point.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown May 30, 2018 10:12 AM  

@7

"No, there's no misunderstanding. The two sides fully understand each other. That's the problem."

THIS.

Blogger VD May 30, 2018 10:18 AM  

I presume there's a missing Inquisition there?

Reconquista, actually. Fixed.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 30, 2018 10:33 AM  

Let's get it over with, Stg58. The sooner it starts, the milder it will be.

Blogger Some Guy May 30, 2018 10:36 AM  

"Ethnicity trumps everything even Christian brotherhood."

No, God divided us into nations, tribes, and tongues at the tower of Babel. The vast majority of these people aren't Christians, so the rules God instituted still apply. Remember, the minute they declare peace is the minute He comes back.

Blogger eyeslevel May 30, 2018 10:40 AM  

And the Alex Jones types say "the elites are trying to divide us and get us to fight each other so they can rule." Which is true, but they disingenuously ignore the mass immigration and forced assimilation (in only white countries) which causes the division in the first place. They want to pretend that people don't have racial interests and are not naturally loyal to their own kind.

If the Alec Jones types were serious about fighting globalism, they would push for racial separation. The only thing that's going to defeat globalism is nationalism.

Blogger Mark Stoval May 30, 2018 10:44 AM  

I don't think there is any way to avoid a great blood bath, but if there is any hope at all it is separation.

If the USA were to allow the 50 states to leave the union if they want to, and if those states broke apart along tribal lines then we might avoid the greater share of bloodshed. (no hope for it to be totally bloodless)

I would love to see the blacks with a nation of their own. Let them be "Kangs" and show us how it is done!

I would propose ejecting (with whatever force is needed) the non-whites from the deep south. Then we can worry about other areas. But others might have different plans for a great divorce.

This multicultural marriage is broken beyond repair. Let us go our own ways.

steps that might help:

1) stop all welfare, entitlements, perks, affirmative action, and so forth.

2) no quotas allowed which favor women, blacks, browns, or any other group. Go full MLK and say NO QUOTAS.

3) Tell the world that everyone is racist. Time to tell the truth. By the way, the USA blacks are the most racist group on the planet. They can not have a conversation without blaming whitey for some damn thing or the other.

4) Death penalty to all here illegally. They are invaders. This is a war.

A few years of the above would get things moving in the right direction, but totally separation is the only answer.

Blogger Gloriam Deo May 30, 2018 10:52 AM  

@18 Precisely. It's easier to deal with an enemy while it's still easy to source cholera cheaply.

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 30, 2018 11:01 AM  

He’s a liar.

Separation doesn’t lead to misunderstanding and rhen conflict.

Proximity leads to understanding.

Then conflict.

If you’re a civilised white man and you don’t understand that you have domestic enemies trying to destroy you and everything you believe in, you’re a freaking idiot.

Or, like Mr Pithy Quote above, a liar.

Blogger Stilicho May 30, 2018 11:07 AM  

Exceptions to the rule are fine (see, e.g. Mrs Trump and Mrs. Kratman) and as long as you have a rule that is enforced. We abandoned any pretense of an immigration rule in 1965, then doubled down on that abandonment in 1986.

Blogger freddie_mac May 30, 2018 11:18 AM  

the mainstream media is belatedly discovering the fact that there is no longer any middle ground

WTF??? From my POV, this has been accelerating since 2000 (really picked up speed as of 2008), to the point that I moved out of concerns for my own safety a few years back. Now that I've relocated, I have a low-level unease (time to prepare) as opposed to a heightened sense of urgency (just short of panic mode).

I admit that my identification of the factions had mostly been liberal/prog or other, but since most of the immigrant groups tend to side with progs, the initial factions have only been refined, not replaced.

Blogger insight May 30, 2018 11:19 AM  

"He’s a liar.

Separation doesn’t lead to misunderstanding and then conflict.

Proximity leads to understanding.

Then conflict."


This.

"No, God divided us into nations, tribes, and tongues at the tower of Babel.

And the devil is rebuilding it again using MPAI as the mortar.

Blogger Dire Badger May 30, 2018 11:20 AM  

Things are accelerating fast. I give it 3 years.

Blogger Al Du Clur May 30, 2018 11:24 AM  

As much as I want to believe that there will be a civil war, I just can't get myself to be that optimistic. People are very far from admitting the gravity of the genocide (or that it is actually happening) and are too easily distracted by circuses and manufactured crises. I see us instead becoming South Africa Norte

Blogger VD May 30, 2018 11:28 AM  

I see us instead becoming South Africa Norte

Then you clearly don't understand the relative population demographics involved. Seriously, some of you really need to stop expressing opinions about these things when you clearly haven't done 10 seconds worth of reading on the subject.

The black population is 89 percent of the population in South Africa and rising. It is 12.6 percent of the population in the United States and falling.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim May 30, 2018 11:39 AM  

http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/14/election-marks-end-americas-racial-detente/

The sooner people realize that the old rules were shattered by the left, the better.

Blogger Ceerilan May 30, 2018 11:43 AM  

It's quite amazing that one side will start a fight, after the defending side cowers for a few decades then decides to grow a spine rather than die, the original attacker chides "both sides" for being at fault. Entirely dishonest.

Blogger Dirtnapninja May 30, 2018 11:47 AM  

We started down this route when we allowed a permanently alienated and resentful tribe of people with a 2000 year old grudge against us to gain a hegemonic position in the institutions.

Blogger Crush Limbraw May 30, 2018 11:54 AM  

The Examiner article is all about tone and not substance - which pretty much confirms my own experience in whatever discussions I have occasionally with friends or family members.
They don't read, aren't interested outside of day to day mundane matters and consider anyone like me a troublesome irritant.
Nothing has changed in human nature!

Blogger Man of The West May 30, 2018 12:02 PM  

Daniels (the university prez) sounds like a fool when he is quoted to blame separation for anger and misunderstanding. The tribes in America are not suffering from any form of separation or misunderstanding. Quite the opposite is true, the country’s different groups with different agendas are far too integrated and understand each other. That’s precisely why there is anger. Those who want to parasitically leech off of westerners and abuse replace the culture with the defunct homeland they fled from are entirely aware that we westerners want to stop them, and they despise us for both calling them on their deceit, and trying to oppose it. There is no separation, and there is no isolation. Integrating the US was what caused these problems. We cannot be neighbors with people that would profit from our death, and they cannot integrate without abandoning their original culture/ethnicity. Smashing these groups together isn’t going to force away these polarized values. It’s going to exaggerate them.

Blogger Man of The West May 30, 2018 12:05 PM  

Exactly! Caught that same thing. The proximity and understanding is the cause of the anger and opposition, not the solution.

Blogger James Dixon May 30, 2018 12:07 PM  

> You have about 12-15 years to prepare for this now, possibly less, in my estimation.

Immigrant fueled civil war combined with a full economic collapse at roughly the same time? Well, it's not like it's unprecedented.

> No, there's no misunderstanding. The two sides fully understand each other. That's the problem.

Agreed. But I don't see recognizing reality as a problem.

> The tipping point has already been reached.

You have absolutely no idea how good we are at killing, do you?

Blogger Looking Glass May 30, 2018 12:09 PM  

It's Brazil Norte that's their end-game. They love themselves some Racial Elite ruling class over a mix-raced underclass, but with a generally defined middle class that keeps the lights on & the streets clean. This allows them to produce a Global Super State in the future, without anyone standing in the way.

@21 Mark Stoval

"I don't think there is any way to avoid a great blood bath, but if there is any hope at all it is separation."

It's avoidable at a low cost of blood, even at this late of a date. It's always just a matter of people are programmed into illogical thinking about the way it all works. ~150 of the right people dead, all of the control networks collapse, then the cleaning of the stables happens. Sure, there'll be a need to remove a lot of people, but people without ties to a location are surprisingly easy to convince to leave.

Deeper reality is that someone is going to simply cross the Rubicon via a military coup. It's definitely Rome-Redux on the Potomac.

Blogger Looking Glass May 30, 2018 12:14 PM  

@36 James Dixon

People make the strange assumption the "White Man's Way of War" is to repeat WW1. In civil/domestic warfare? You barely need guns for what the next conflict will look like.

The modern world is incredibly fragile, and, if you send the most inventive group of Men in human history on the warpath, you're not going to like what they'll come up with.

Blogger Calvin May 30, 2018 12:20 PM  

I fear something similar to SA, in that whites remain pacified and offer no meaningful resistance as they're ground down and eventually genocided by the brown hordes. Which flavor of foreigner does so doesn't matter so much.

Blogger Looking Glass May 30, 2018 12:26 PM  

On the timeline issue, I think much "hotter" civil conflict happens before economic collapse. I know the debt numbers are insane, but they figured out a way to "solve" those. You have to take a deep study of how Japan has dealt with their debt to understand it, but the answer goes something like "you can squeeze more out in ways you never thought possible". The centrality of the US Economy to every other financial system is such that they would never let it collapse. What they'll do is pillage the 3rd world and the US Middle Class as much as possible to inflate-away the issue. They can drag it out for decades without collapse. It's incredibly evil, but everyone is too tied to their assumptions about the way Money actually works in a Fiat System.

To my mind, the actual trigger event is if the Left ever gains any real power again. They're going to be on such a warpath that they're going to force someone into defending themselves. They'll try to setup so many False Flags that one of them is going to get away from them; that's when Hell breaks out.

Thus, it's really every election that can trigger the next event. 2024 is your first big crossroads date, which does explain why the Trump-aligned forces are working to get the Dems to internally explode over their contradictions. Hard-Left Socialists are winning primaries, which is a good sign of a coming collapse of the Dems as a national part. Or a Military Coup. One or the other.

In related news, it's clear Kamala Harris is the designated candidate for 2020 from the Dems. They didn't move CA to near the front of the primary schedule with it.

Blogger eyeslevel May 30, 2018 12:26 PM  

Truth is not a compromise,

Blogger James Dixon May 30, 2018 12:30 PM  

> and, if you send the most inventive group of Men in human history on the warpath, you're not going to like what they'll come up with.

The ability to create a genetically biased virus that kills 90% of the target population is probably already reality and within the means of people with only 10's of thousands of dollars, just to name one of the many possibilities.

Blogger eyeslevel May 30, 2018 12:31 PM  

You can be loyal to a set of words or you can be loyal to a people. Likewise, a country can be based on a set of words or a people. Those two systems are incompatible. There can be no compromise between them which does not entail contradictions and hypocrisy.

America was founded as a white homeland for "ourselves and our posterity", not for everyone and everyone's posterity.

Blogger Nostromo May 30, 2018 12:36 PM  

I think some consideration has to be given black/ Hispanic antagonism. A lot of blacks believe that if the whites are eradicated, they're next on the chopping block. Don't be surprised when the shooting starts to find a few trying to crawl into the foxhole with us.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 30, 2018 12:42 PM  

Foreign intervention is here soon it will be overt and it will be an open colonization with the help of the Left.

And it will be done quite openly with a "what are you going to do about it" attitude.

This could spiral out of control as these powers rush towards controlling the nuclear arsenal.

Blogger James Dixon May 30, 2018 12:51 PM  

For those with questions about my post #42 above, see https://singularityhub.com/2015/09/08/gene-editing-is-now-cheap-and-easy-and-no-one-is-prepared-for-the-consequences/ for some basic info. It looks like I may have overstated the costs.

Blogger Looking Glass May 30, 2018 12:58 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> and, if you send the most inventive group of Men in human history on the warpath, you're not going to like what they'll come up with.

The ability to create a genetically biased virus that kills 90% of the target population is probably already reality and within the means of people with only 10's of thousands of dollars, just to name one of the many possibilities.


Yup, though going straight to genetic weaponry also brings up unintended consequences via mutation. Best to stick to more practical means.

Though the clear "down in numbers" approach is Optical Weaponry. A small fleet of drones could disable an entire city pretty quickly. Not that a city is all that hard to disable & starve out.

Blogger VD May 30, 2018 1:00 PM  

Foreign intervention is here soon it will be overt and it will be an open colonization with the help of the Left.

It's not about colonization. It's about Russia and China, to say nothing of the Muslim world, finally getting a free hand to operate internationally once the US is tied up with internal dissension.

Blogger Looking Glass May 30, 2018 1:02 PM  

@45 Mr.MantraMan

Nukes aren't actually the important part. It's the Gulf Coast ports and the Central State rail network. Take a look at US Food Exports at some point. "He who controls the Wheat, controls the World", or something like that.

Which, again, points to exactly why a Military Coup is still the most likely outcome of all of this. Hopefully far more Pinochet than anyone else.

Blogger AnvilTiger May 30, 2018 1:03 PM  

The USA does not exist in isolation. War with the PRC will happen. Probably after the next global economic implosion - as that will hit China's economy especially hard. When it occurs, it will not just be a naval war, and the continental USA will be hit by hundreds if not thousands of Chinese cruise missiles. Not all at once, of course, but over the course of years. The USA will respond in a similar way.

And when that happens the Left will be especially hammered as the west coast urban centers will be hardest hit (initially). Plus millions of illegals of Mexican background will flee back to Mexico.

Blogger kurt9 May 30, 2018 1:09 PM  

You have about 12-15 years to prepare for this now, possibly less, in my estimation.

The early 30's being when the crunch hits has been the estimate for at least 10 years. The dynamic I came up with about 8 years ago was the following: The boomers retire in large numbers during the 20's, creating an every increasing demand on social security payouts as well as both public and private pension (many of the latter ending up on the PBGC and thus being publicly financed as well). This, combined with the ever continuous military interventionism abroad and the increasing demands for social spending on the NAMs, will drive deficits higher and higher. It is reasonable to assume something will giver around 2032 or so.

However, there are factors, which did not exist 8 years ago, that could kick this can down the road another 20-30 years. One is the fracking revolution that has made us energy independent and a net exporter (Peter Zeihan talks about this in his latest book). This give us lower energy prices as well as help boost demand for the U.S. Dollar in forex markets. Along with this energy revolution comes a manufacturing renaissance driven by both cheap energy and technology innovation in automation. The U.S. becomes more of a manufacturing exporter as well. As such, we are both "Saudi America" as well as an "East Asian exporter" economy. I believe Trumps policies will be good for realizing both of these. Thus, I do not believe the final crunch will come around 2032 (as I previously believed). I think we have another 40 years before we really have problems.

Coincidently, it is the fracking and automation revolutions that can make the U.S. into a manufacturing power again that is the reason why I still favor free trade, despite all of the arguments to the contrary on this and other alt-right blogs. Fracking and automation will create the factor advantages that will allow the U.S. to benefit again from a free-trade regime. HBD, which is also a mainstay for many of you in here, also favors free trade for the U.S. Once China reaches its demographic and economic capacity, there will be no "other China's" to take over China's role in manufacturing because the human capital simply does not exist in the rest of the world for a China-like manufacturing renaissance.

Blogger Lyon May 30, 2018 1:09 PM  

"You have about 12-15 years to prepare for this now, possibly less, in my estimation."

Whether you agree or not with Vox on the time line, however we quibble over it, the reality is this:

The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The next best time is now.

Blogger Skyler the Weird May 30, 2018 1:12 PM  

Blacks know Hispanics hate them more than Gringos. Latin America had African Slavery but aside from Cuba and a few islands the former descendants of slaves in Spanish speaking countries are small cause a lot starved after emancipation.

Blogger Looking Glass May 30, 2018 1:16 PM  

@51 kurt9

Yup. Fracking + Trump could easily kick the can out a lot further. Wall + removing the vast majority of the illegals will help with that as well. Eventually, though, the piper will need to be paid.

Blogger Garuna May 30, 2018 1:20 PM  

Due to the proportions of native vs. invaders, I think Europe will ultimately purge the immigrants, while America will be partitioned.

to say nothing of the Muslim world, finally getting a free hand to operate internationally once the US is tied up with internal dissension.

Islam could become the most dominant religious force in the world. It's the only major religion even attempting to control female promiscuity at the moment.

Though I have noticed that once Muslim women become liberalized, they become bigger whores than anybody.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 30, 2018 1:20 PM  

"The USA does not exist in isolation. War with the PRC will happen."

@50 AnvilTiger
I don't expect the Chinese to bother nuking us, especially if the USA collapses in civil war. They're very patient. They'll just watch the country collapse, and make deals with various factions.

"Blacks know Hispanics hate them more than Gringos"

@53 Skyler the Weird
No they don't. The vast majority of them are pig-ignorant, and still preoccupied with sticking it to YT.

Blogger James Dixon May 30, 2018 1:23 PM  

> Yup, though going straight to genetic weaponry also brings up unintended consequences via mutation. Best to stick to more practical means.

As long as you have any hope of winning, yes. But if you're looking at a war you've already lost, what's the downside? People don't seem to understand that yes, we really do have the capability to take everyone else.

Blogger James Dixon May 30, 2018 1:24 PM  

...everyone else with us. I tried to delete half a line and deleted too much.

Blogger Lyon May 30, 2018 1:29 PM  

@23 Resident Moron

"Separation doesn’t lead to misunderstanding and then conflict.
Proximity leads to understanding.
Then conflict." -R.M.

"Good fences make good neighbors." - via Mending Wall by Robert Frost

Fences, walls, boarders, boundaries... And, like the poem, if the wall is falling down, best to mend it.

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 30, 2018 1:29 PM  

Let us not prepare the boomer way, which is to run away to some cabin for no purpose at all beyond keeping their fat asses and fat wives uselessly stealing air.
We need new non-boomeristic concepts of prepping. Like having only two or three guns you get trained and really damned good at instead of 50 guns you can't shoot for shit. And what's the point if a cabin in the woods when you still have to be driving distance from a Walmart because big fat wife just has to have her meds? The leftists know that mopping up the preppers will be easier than the red army mopping up the white Russians.
New generation, new war, new battlefield, nowhere to run, no running away...
Leningrad must burn this time.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia May 30, 2018 1:31 PM  

Unknown wrote:Not 12-15 years. The tipping point has already been reached. There is nothing that can be done now that will turn back the tide. Even if the women of the West find their moral compass and the men of the West their testicles, brown women generally don't take The Pill. The androgynous species that GMO and technology are turning whites into don't have the stones to match Smart Islam, which has been growing by stealth for the last 30 years and is now ready to emerge. The upside is that you won't see it coming.

An optimistic way to look at it is this.

Brownies may breed, but they are Catholic (though don't get me wrong, we have to stop the flow NOW, and send back as many as we can who snuck in).

In contrast, soy Whites DON'T breed.

I dunno about a full fledged, take up the muskets civil war happening. Maybe. I think these "siren calls" by civic nationalists like Mitch Daniels and cucks from the Goldberg/Kristol/Corker/Ryan axis are the equivalent of asphyxiating fish flapping their tails on the shoreline because they have been reeled out of the water by the GE.

Who cares what they say or think now? They are yesterday's news.

It's the "war" with the left that really matters now. They must be crushed. With the GE at the helm we have our best shot. Let's hope it's not our last.



Blogger saintCrispee May 30, 2018 1:31 PM  

""You have about 12-15 years to prepare for this now, possibly less, in my estimation."

This is not a good judgment of socio/Political/economic trends. It assumes a terrible economic breakdown far beyond the 08/09 occurrence. That's unlikely. What's more likely is a convergence of attitudes among most Americans that economic and social policy ought not be so tilted toward the rich. Tax and employment policy are likely to help settle the debt issue, despite the impact of baby boomer retirement. In addition the coming revolution in transportation and movement of goods is likely to act as a significant safety valve.

The focus negative focus on race and ethnicity is a fringe concern that is a reflection of the easiest and simplest minds need to vent, but not a reflection of any significant cultural trend in the United States. Most important, there is the barely the tiniest likelihood this anti-ethnic mindset would coalesce into the underlying grounds for "war", let along upheaval.

As an indication of this, consider that over the past 20 years, as diversification of the country's ethnic makeup has sped up considerably, there has been no significant push back by the majority white population. Talk of the "alt right" or "white nationalism" is really no more than a convenient slur aimed at Trump voters. But the white trump voter doesn't deserve this slur. They are a response to the continued tilt of economic policy toward the very rich and the lack of real allocation in recent economic gains. Trump got the vote of those who saw a "recovery" but didn't feel it.

In the end, beware those who claim civil war is on the way. It's almost always a rhetorical gambit.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 30, 2018 1:32 PM  

Note this is all happening in a nearly one sided war against American whites.

Now imagine American whites out from under the thumbs of the conservatives who prattle ceaselessly about the legitimacy of the establishment, as I have said for years I don't think the conservatives can save liberalism for that much longer.

Blogger Lyon May 30, 2018 1:34 PM  

*borders, not boarders

Blogger Salt May 30, 2018 1:36 PM  

It's about Russia and China, to say nothing of the Muslim world, finally getting a free hand to operate internationally once the US is tied up with internal dissension.

By the time that happens the dividing lines should be well demarcated and the nationalist population might well handle the problem itself, especially if an ultra should be in office. That would give full meaning to Jefferson's tree of liberty being watered. The military would not be needed.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia May 30, 2018 1:39 PM  

VD wrote:

Then you clearly don't understand the relative population demographics involved. Seriously, some of you really need to stop expressing opinions about these things when you clearly haven't done 10 seconds worth of reading on the subject.

The black population is 89 percent of the population in South Africa and rising. It is 12.6 percent of the population in the United States and falling.


And quite a few of them are killing each other!

And others, believe it or not, LOVE the GE! True, the percentages are small, but the inroads are YUUUUUGGEE!!

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/11/black-support-trump-rising-danger-zone-democrats/

Blogger ace May 30, 2018 1:42 PM  

A conservative is someone who warns continuously of the increasing water temperature, yet is bewildered when you tell them it's time to jump out of the pot.

Blogger Lyon May 30, 2018 1:43 PM  

@62. saintCrispee

obfuscation much?

Blogger Gen. Kong May 30, 2018 1:47 PM  

@Doctor Jeep:

So true. Cabins in the woods by themselves aren't that defensible if an armed mob of 200 out-of-work badge-gangers and dindus show up on a looting expedition. Even someone with real combat skill might take out 15 or even 30 but they would end up like the British army Isandlwana when the festivities were done. Deep-state and Antifa know this. MS-13 (Obama's promised army = deep-state grunts) aren't afraid to take plenty of dead comrades either. The badge-gang (feds) will be commanding, with dindus as cannon fodder and MS-13 and Musloids to wipe out any serious resistance. The boomers with cabins in the woods and 50 guns they can't shoot will be sitting ducks.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 30, 2018 1:48 PM  

Crissy (hands over ears):
I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!! EVERYTHING IS FINE. IT'S ALL GOING TO BE FINE!!!! NOTHING AT ALL WILL CHANGE BECAUSE NOTHING HAS EVER CHANGED EXCEPT FOR THE BETTER!

Blogger Gloriam Deo May 30, 2018 1:52 PM  

@69 which is why tribalism and community is so important. we MUST build local tribes which can and will support and defend eachother in times of need.

Blogger saintCrispee May 30, 2018 1:54 PM  

"obfuscation much?"

No. I'm just saying, you folks are having trouble seeing reality due to your laser like focus on the issue or race, which is so incredible less important than nearly everything else.

But hey.....wait for your war. It's coming. It is. It really is. It's coming soon. Really soon. It'll be here. Just wait. It's coming.

Blogger tublecane May 30, 2018 1:58 PM  

"tribes always gravitate towards tyrants"

This is hot air. It means nothing to me. Midcentury Consensus Liberalism, with everyone watching the same nightly news and everyone happy supposedly thinking the same dull thoughts--apparently what they desire--gave us all the tyranny we'd ever need. It ruined the country. Ruined it.

Blogger pyrrhus May 30, 2018 2:08 PM  

I think some consideration has to be given black/ Hispanic antagonism. A lot of blacks believe that if the whites are eradicated, they're next on the chopping block. Don't be surprised when the shooting starts to find a few trying to crawl into the foxhole with us.

I have observed this happening already where I live...Hispanics in the southwest have made it very clear that blacks have no special status in their society, and had better behave themselves just to be tolerated.

Blogger tublecane May 30, 2018 2:09 PM  

@7- Since MPAI, they don't really understand eachother. But despite their best efforts to keep people intellectually bottled up, there's more, not less information available. So we probably know each other better than before.

Not before-before. There are decades of brainwashing to bypass. But before as in after the Long March and the institution of PC, say.

Blogger justaguy May 30, 2018 2:12 PM  

Looking at other societies of mixed tribes, they were/are held together by a strongman and a rule of the powerful-- not a land of equal rights under the law. We are already seeing many of the cultural and legal norms handed down by our English ancestors being destroyed and leaving the in place a population and culture ready for domination by an elite. The first and second amendments are bulwarks against the tyranny that is coming, but those amendments have already been stripped of most of their rights and value. I do not see a war, I see a rule of the powerful where any who resist disappear or are legally destroyed. I thank that 1984 will come to fruition, not a war.

Blogger pyrrhus May 30, 2018 2:12 PM  

@73 "This is hot air. It means nothing to me. "
Of course it is, these grifters know they can't tell the truth and keep their gigs in the media.
The truth is closer to "you don't have enough ammo."

Blogger Ingot9455 May 30, 2018 2:14 PM  

@62 @72 They thought the Soviet Union would never fall even though basic math required it.

If something can't go on forever, it will stop.
Promises that can't be kept won't be kept.

The question is when. The Soviet Union carried on a long time past when most mathematical people thought it had to collapse - but it still surprised a heck of a lot of people who thought it would never stop.

These threads indicate several kinds of things that are going to stop - eventually, kicking the can down the road hits a wall you can't overcome. There's going to be small pension breakdowns then large pension breakdowns. There's going to be small home mortgage meltdowns and then large home mortgage meltdowns. There's going to be small welfare crises then large welfare crises. There's going to be small government debt crises then large government debt crises. Most of the times politicians will figure out how to push the problem off some more.

Probably each time people will cry about this being the end and now people are going to rise up.

But plenty of people are going to be surprised when it really happens.

Blogger VD May 30, 2018 2:18 PM  

This is not a good judgment of socio/Political/economic trends. It assumes a terrible economic breakdown far beyond the 08/09 occurrence. That's unlikely.

A lot of morons like you said the same thing when I started warning about a financial crisis back in 2002.

It's not "unlikely". It is "inevitable".

Blogger tublecane May 30, 2018 2:20 PM  

I can barely stand to read that pablum. Academics whining about their phony, nonexistent consensus being discovered to have no clothes. Why don't you start by admitting you don't understand the world, and begging our forgiveness for misleading us?

Take race, which is obviously an inconvenient truth for the ruling order. (One which the intellectuals appear to know could puncture their legitimacy all by itself, hence their schizophrenic treatment of it.) You trained whites to be colorblind, successfully enough. As much as could be expected, in a 1984 "how many fingers" sense.

However, you didn't bother with all the other races. Did you think that wouldn't matter? Even when whites lost majority-status? Are you that stupid?

Yes, they are that stupid. They're stupid smart people. Or rather silly-smarts, as I think one person once put it.

Moderates are the useful idiots of the enemies of Western Civilization, who at least have the excuse of working productively toward their end. Though they have no viable plan for replacement.

Blogger VD May 30, 2018 2:22 PM  

An optimistic way to look at it is this. Brownies may breed, but they are Catholic.

Right, they are natural conservatives. Thank you, Mr. Bush.

Blogger pyrrhus May 30, 2018 2:22 PM  

I do not see a war, I see a rule of the powerful where any who resist disappear or are legally destroyed. I thank that 1984 will come to fruition, not a war.

The global average temperature has already dropped 1* F, and we are just entering a solar minimum...There is going to be war over resources generally and food specifically...No power structure can convince people to accept starvation, particularly in the most heavily armed country in the world...

Blogger pyrrhus May 30, 2018 2:34 PM  

A lot of morons like you said the same thing when I started warning about a financial crisis back in 2002.

It's not "unlikely". It is "inevitable".

Indeed, the financial condition of the world in terms of debt is far worse than it was in 2008...

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 30, 2018 2:36 PM  

James Dixon wrote:The ability to create a genetically biased virus that kills 90% of the target population is probably already reality and within the means of people with only 10's of thousands of dollars, just to name one of the many possibilities.

That's silly, even if true. I suspect that destroying fewer than 100 substations would cause the entire Hillary Archipelago to self destruct. Substations are easy targets. Wiping out the enemy is not hard, if the desire is there.

Blogger Mr Darcy May 30, 2018 2:46 PM  

@79 & @83:

It's not only inevitable, it has already begun. And nothing can stop it. Add to that the Eddy Minimum, and you've got the perfect storm. Tight seatbelts are indicated.

Blogger Iron Spartan May 30, 2018 2:48 PM  

As far as i can tell, the last chance to stop the split without bloodshed was right after the Iron Curtain fell. Instead of rounding up and evicting our internal enemies, we protected them with positions of power in our institutions. That was our fatal mistake.

McVeigh delayed things by ending the Clinton era policy of killing Americans in their beds. The single least bloody way this ends is a nuke going off in a major city that we can prove was smuggled in from Mexico.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch May 30, 2018 2:53 PM  

I know that our quarter has the emotional and intellectual capacity to exercise "realtalk" and race realism. But I really think that the majority of Americans have a--dare I say--bred in, genetic, DNA-infused aversion to ethnonationalism. Sort of like the seemingly genetic American aversion to monarchy, or our national Zionist preferences.

I could be wrong.

Blogger Lovekraft May 30, 2018 3:14 PM  

Academia is stuck in a lethargic comfort of avoidance and self-congratulation, stuck in some 1970s style of analysis.

For every political/social/psychological theory that a professor espouses, the students have a right to ask "that's all well and good, but what about when it doesn't work?"

The entire umbrella of critical theory/post-modernism spouts about upturning the established narrative, but on something like immigration vis a vis democracy, the first question that should come to mind would be 'how can the system be exploited'?

Blogger tz May 30, 2018 3:17 PM  

The exceptions are the problem. It is defining deviancy down.
It is also never the apparently fully assimilated wife who served in the marines and can recite the constitution and all amendments from memory, but the "nice" but clueless wife that confuses Marxism, or the Zeroth amendment, or the welfare state as "American".
A simple question might suffice: "Why should the 17th Amendment be repealed?". If you can't immediately answer the question because you know why, you are outside of the American Nation. Yes, many Anglos, and Europeans, and Whites can't answer it directly, but they accept and want the roots - federalism and subsidiarity.

The middle - perhaps it is the polis version of the Aristotelean mean - is the health of the society. Crony democracies have the elites and the mob, the former with wealth, the latter with votes. You have the big central government, and the individual. In a healthy society there is a big middle class that has enough wealth to want it and the structures that created it (e.g. blue collar jobs, mom and pop stores) preserved. So too there is a big middle level - States and Counties and even the cities or villages that handled everything. Even in America 1.0, Maine was not New York was not Virginia was not Georgia. This was a good thing.

And that is the only "escape" or delay from the civil war. You can't have Christendom and Globalist Perversion Cronyism (socialism is the label) coexisting, much less where it has become clear the latter will do anything including any dirty trick to win.

Blogger Lyon May 30, 2018 3:17 PM  

@72
"obfuscation much?"

“No. I'm just saying, you folks are having trouble seeing reality due to your laser like focus on the issue or race, which is so incredible less important than nearly everything else.” -saintCrispee

Reality is rather easy to see. It is also non-negotiable. It is the antithesis of an Overton Window, where one can always tweak the view to serve an agenda. Biology is real. Our nature is the foundation of our physical reality. Biology is destiny.

You merely confirm my observation as you play to your type. You’re a caricature of it, in fact.

To muddy the water with non sequiturs, to obscure meaning, this is demonstrably your shtick. And in your self-imposed bewilderment you project it on the likewise dim and dark… in a word, you obfuscate.

Nature is inevitable. Nature is.

Blogger tublecane May 30, 2018 3:22 PM  

@87- First of all, "ethnonationalism" is redundant.

Secondly, of course Americans don't have a genetic aversion to it. Their blood comes from the national groups of Europe. Not long ago, they were a billion times more ethnically chauvinistic than they are now.

What we have now is a cultural problem, mixed with ethnic conflation. America is multiethnic and multinational. Which worked okay when the WASP held the whip hand, but the WASP screwed it up.

For all the internet talk of *the* ethnostate, they never specify an actual ethnicity. Whiteness is not an ethnicity. When white America gets real on race, it's going to split the fake-nation up, not bring it together.

Blogger tublecane May 30, 2018 3:26 PM  

@88- "stuck in some 1970s style of analysis"

Brezhnevism.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 30, 2018 3:30 PM  

Iron Spartan wrote:The single least bloody way this ends is a nuke going off in a major city that we can prove was smuggled in from Mexico.
The lesson on 9/11 was lost on you.
What did Iraq or Afghanistan have to do with one of the Saudi power blocs deciding to take out a bunch of American landmarks?

Blogger VFM #7634 May 30, 2018 3:33 PM  

"Brownies may breed, but they are Catholic (though don't get me wrong, we have to stop the flow NOW, and send back as many as we can who snuck in)."

Heh. I'm Catholic, and I don't want them here. Because I'm also an American.

Here's a pro tip to tell whether a given group can be American: if a majority of them vote Republican. If they're majority Democrat, AND their Republicans are cucks on immigration (I'm looking at you Cubans), then no, they cannot be American.

"In contrast, soy Whites DON'T breed."

Therefore we should rely on non-soy Whites. Duh.

Blogger AaMcavoy May 30, 2018 3:34 PM  

Gloriam Deo wrote:@69 which is why tribalism and community is so important. we MUST build local tribes which can and will support and defend eachother in times of need.

You can't build a tribe without family. You all must intermarry. Your children must stay andmarry your neighbor's children. Your grandchildren must stay and marry your other neighbors.

It's how the Virginian colonists became a powerful, cohesive group that stayed in charge so long and how the Protestants in Ireland resisted the IRA.

Blood is thicker than water.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 30, 2018 3:36 PM  

"If they're majority Democrat, AND their Republicans are cucks on immigration"

That should be OR, not AND.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 30, 2018 3:38 PM  

It is also never the apparently fully assimilated wife who served in the marines and can recite the constitution and all amendments from memory

You really don't get this.
It absolutely IS the apparently fully assimilated wife who served in the marines and can rattle off the constitution. Your very description belies your assertion. Americans can't rattle off the amendments because we don't need to. In so far as the amendments have any meaning, it is as an expression of American culture. Her children will not be American either.
So your personal complication IS the problem, cuck-boy.

Blogger tuberman May 30, 2018 3:51 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:@51 kurt9

Yup. Fracking + Trump could easily kick the can out a lot further. Wall + removing the vast majority of the illegals will help with that as well. Eventually, though, the piper will need to be paid.


You and Kurt9 have a point. Also, Trump will do more than expected by a Civic Nationalist, and he will not show his full hand at any time, or until the last couple of years of his Presidency. Many of the illegals will be gone. I believe he will cut back on legal immigrants too in the second term.

There are intentions to confiscate trillions from the parasites, all the way to the organizations. There has been a secondary banking system being established since PDJT was placed in power.

Blacks short-term possibly will break from their Leftist slavery, but will probably still be a minority (but big enough to hurt the DNC badly). This will only last through Trump's years.

In spite of what of what one person said the animosity between Blacks and Hispanics is huge in certain areas, but they still to a large extent focus on Whites when it comes to their victim status.

Demographics are huge though. Moderates are even now giving ground, so the on-going civil war is mainly one-sided.

I'm hoping the Culture Wars heats up everywhere, and takes the red-pill where it barely goes now. The next 3-4 years are critical.

History is going to happen, and some of that is going to further awaken Whites in America, although many on the surface will only see fear, uncertainty and doubt. For those history happenings (think South Africa) to awaken people, it will require Culture War information to be spread far and wide.

My theory: Heroic efforts can put history off for a time, and that extra time can be used to change thought processes for whatever is necessary. There are heroic efforts being made to undermine the elites in Europe and the USA presently.

Blogger justaguy May 30, 2018 4:03 PM  

#82. "There is going to be war over resources generally and food specifically."

Food production per unit of land has gone up generally over 5X in the last 70 years. Uncontrolled population growth with subsidies for more kids = population growth of those that need others to feed them. Mainly Africa which migrate to Europe. Every year currently more and more land is taken out of agriculture in the highly developed West.

So I still think that things will go here in the strongman/little rights for the citizens direction instead of anything like our Civil War. Something like more and more Branch Dividian massacres more swats raids on the resistance (called criminals by media), but who is going to be the 10%+ that openly resist to lead the rest into being the South that aren't picked off one by one?

Blogger Akulkis May 30, 2018 4:05 PM  

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Blogger Akulkis May 30, 2018 4:15 PM  

@Looking Glass

"Deeper reality is that someone is going to simply cross the Rubicon via a military coup. It's definitely Rome-Redux on the Potomac."

Remember, the Generals and Admirals who recruited Trump were already planning a coup to restore the concept of the fedgov working within the limits of the Constitution. The recruited Trump as a last ditch effort to avoid pulling a coup. Don't be surprised if we get a military coup within a few years of Trump leaving office.
It would be the best route if a civil war comes -- a bunch of 3 and 4-stars of all the services in open rebellion will make it much easier for Joe Private and John Lieutenant do serve in the rebellion, because he can wear his uniform, and identify as a loyal soldier fighting the internal enemy mentioned in the last phrase of their oaths of service.

Blogger weka May 30, 2018 4:25 PM  

Besieging New York and starving ten million and making Arlington flow in the dark would be likely.

I now consider Tom Kratman is an optimist. The kiwis and Aussies will purge the Muslims or join the caliphate, but we will have merely rivers of blood. The dissolution of the USA will make lakes.

Blogger Tommy Hass May 30, 2018 4:26 PM  

What on earth is an "invasion"? Your definition of it is very different from that of anyone I've ever met.

NO ONE can invade the US. Or Europe for that matter. (well maybe Russia)

Blogger Tommy Hass May 30, 2018 4:27 PM  

Btw, what if Jordan Peterson's "assault on human nature"? Trying to fight against tribalism?

I dunno Vox. "Civilization" is an assault on human nature too, don't you think?

Blogger Akulkis May 30, 2018 4:27 PM  

I have no problem with a black man who jooins me in the foxhole if he's willing to admit that Affirmative Action was both a failure AND a significant cause of the war in the first place, and that if we win, it's abolished forever.

Booker T. Washington was right: the best way to help the black community is for whites to give them zero assistance. Responsibility produces civilized adults. Welfare produces 50-year old perpetual children and shake-down artists which breeds resentment.

Blogger Looking Glass May 30, 2018 4:28 PM  

@84 Ominous Cowherd

Shh..

Blogger Steve May 30, 2018 4:28 PM  

a war that will make the Civil War look like a casual warmup

I need a cigarette after reading that.

I used to think war was hell, and it no doubt is, but peace can be worse.

Look at Europe. We've been at peace for 73 years, and it's killing us.

The history of intermittent European bloodshed gave us national identity, solidarity and purpose and technological advancement. It inspired the arts and religious revivals. It put the truth into brutal crystal clarity.

There is no Scotland without Wallace. No England without Agincourt. No Wales without the man-sheep love associaton. War isn't just an inevitable part of the human condition, it's a necessary part. We need to occasionally kill our enemies and grieve our fallen heroes. We need mass spectacle and drama and common goals.

The Gay Peace has given us decadence and degeneracy and death, cowardice and weakness and the unbound cuntish id of our womenfolk. Look at Ireland - a small country with below replacement level birthrates - revelling in the decision to kill what few babies they produce. Look at the barren bugmen and manjaws running European institutions. We won't survive many more generations of this peace.

And why would we want to? So a growing section of the population can cry and hump waifu pillows or die their hair pink and get their sex organs mutilated? So we can get fatter and grub for more cheap Chinese plastic grot in place of our souls?

Love will tear us apart, again. War will bring us together. All we are saaaaying, is give war a chance.

Blogger Akulkis May 30, 2018 4:29 PM  

Foreign intervention won't last more than a few plane loads of troops. 2nd Amendment exercise will shut it down.

Blogger Looking Glass May 30, 2018 4:29 PM  

@101 Akulkis

Without saying much of anything, if you look for the tea leaves, there's clearly been the backup plan for a while.

Blogger Akulkis May 30, 2018 4:31 PM  

@Looking Glass

"Which, again, points to exactly why a Military Coup is still the most likely outcome of all of this. Hopefully far more Pinochet than anyone else"

As long as there's helicopter rides.

Anonymous Anonymous May 30, 2018 4:32 PM  

if you send the most inventive group of Men in human history on the warpath, you're not going to like what they'll come up with.
Even when you explain to a bunch of blacks exactly how easy it would be to kill them by the hundreds of thousands at a time, they don't believe you.  They don't even believe it when told by one of their own.  The only thing keeping the USA from returning to a practically crime-free Whitopia is the White police and military holding back those ready to git 'er done.

(It's going to be funny in retrospect when it actually happens.  It would be a piece of cake to do the same to many/most of the Mexicans etc. in the barrios of California by slightly different means.  Just have to have the right people in the right place do the right thing at the right time.)

Best to stick to more practical means.
Yes indeedy.  Unleashing Herbert's White Plague on ourselves is something we'd only get to do once.

One is the fracking revolution that has made us energy independent and a net exporter
No we aren't, you nitwit.  The USA is still a net importer of 3.7 million barrels a day out of 20-odd.  We export more refined products than we import, but those are usually made with imported crude.  We still have that 3.7 million barrel daily deficit.

Blogger Akulkis May 30, 2018 4:37 PM  

Islam teaches women that they are born whores. Thus when the are given freedom, it's self-fulfilling prophecy.

Blogger weka May 30, 2018 4:37 PM  

It is about Russia and China, to say nothing of the Muslims world, finally having a free hand to operate internationally...

NZ and Australia are rearming and increasing foreign aid to the Pacific, not because they want to, but because the Chinese and Russians are already there.

NZ and Australia are censoring social media to appease the Mullahs, who are converting sports stars and criminals.

This is not going to end well.

Blogger Akulkis May 30, 2018 4:39 PM  

American blacks never served as slaves to Hispanics. Blacks who were enslaved by Hispanics have very few descendants.

Blogger Akulkis May 30, 2018 4:41 PM  

The optimal ground is suburban--it will also be the most contested.

Blogger Akulkis May 30, 2018 4:43 PM  

@KPinSunnyPhiladelphia

Daniels is farther right than you think.

Blogger James Dixon May 30, 2018 4:44 PM  

> It assumes a terrible economic breakdown far beyond the 08/09 occurrence. That's unlikely.

Sure it is. That $20T in debt going up by almost $1T/year is absolutely nothing to worry about. People will just keep loaning us money forever.

> What's more likely is a convergence of attitudes among most Americans that economic and social policy ought not be so tilted toward the rich.

So we'll become Venezuela, then?

> Tax and employment policy are likely to help settle the debt issue, despite the impact of baby boomer retirement.

Whatever you're smoking must be good, I'll give it that.

> But hey.....wait for your war. It's coming. It is. It really is. It's coming soon. Really soon. It'll be here. Just wait. It's coming.

Folks like you on twitter seem to think it is: https://gabfiles.blob.core.windows.net/image/5b0df1942c704.jpeg

But half the population will just accept being rounded up as traitors with no violence at all, right?

Blogger weka May 30, 2018 4:46 PM  

You have a far too high opinion of the Wwlsh. And war is coming... Tommy Robinson was released so avoid it.

Because May knows that in a revolution the minister's mi the crown are hanged while the crown works with whomever has power.

Blogger weka May 30, 2018 4:49 PM  

Minister's of the crown... And note that the British Empire has fallen, so the embarrassing and politically treasonous cannot be exiled to an imperial post.

Politics is going to end up bloody. As in the time of Cromwell, the Tudors, the Lancasters...

Better to not be bear b capital in this decade.

Blogger tublecane May 30, 2018 4:50 PM  

@104- "'Civilization' is an assault on human nature, too, don't you think?"

No. Civilization is artificial, but not contrary to human nature.

Though I can see how you might think it so, living as you do in a sick civilization.

Blogger tublecane May 30, 2018 4:53 PM  

@103-

Invasion (noun):

·an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.

·an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain.

The main connotation of "invasion" is with armed incursion. But you don't need arms necessarily.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 30, 2018 4:54 PM  

Tommy Hass wrote:What on earth is an "invasion"? Your definition of it is very different from that of anyone I've ever met.

NO ONE can invade the US. Or Europe for that matter. (well maybe Russia)

Says the invader.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 30, 2018 4:54 PM  

"You really don't get this.
It absolutely IS the apparently fully assimilated wife who served in the marines and can rattle off the constitution."

@97 Snidely Whiplash
Sen. Tammy Duckworth (Anti-American-IL) is a good example. Product of an American and a Thai, ends up a liberal Democrat. Hence, Not-American.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd May 30, 2018 4:54 PM  

"Positive" intervention could happen, where foreign powers attempt to gain influence by siding with the faction most favorable to them.

Russia- helping the rebels
E.U./Canada/Possibly China/Latin America- helping the government/anti-white faction.

That way only one group of the population would be interested in the "rifle behind ever tree" scenario.

Blogger English Tom May 30, 2018 4:56 PM  

@JamesDixon

There's an outstanding book called: six legged soldiers which is about the human use of insects in war. Very informative!

Blogger Wynn Lloyd May 30, 2018 5:00 PM  

Have you ever seen porn with chicks in Burkas?
Very disturbing.

Blogger English Tom May 30, 2018 5:07 PM  

@Pyrhus

Re: Grand Solar Minimum. Check out the following on youtube:
Adapt 2030

Ice Age Farmer

Oppenheimer Ranch Project

Blogger English Tom May 30, 2018 5:09 PM  

Yeah Brezhnev. And those caterpillar eyebrows!

Blogger Looking Glass May 30, 2018 5:14 PM  

@98 tuberman

I believe Trump can extend the reckoning beyond his own life, a bit Andrew Jackson-like. He's built too much of New York to want to see it burned to the ground. Can't blame him for that.

Blogger Looking Glass May 30, 2018 5:18 PM  

@125 English Tom

Drone Swarms. Very lethal Drone Swarms. Domestic US Conflict would produce some of the most terrifying locally produced weapons in history. Think of "/pol/ at War". Then be very, very scared.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd May 30, 2018 5:40 PM  

Hey! Been a long time.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd May 30, 2018 5:42 PM  

I wonder how Ian Curtis would see things if he were still alive?

Blogger Unknown May 30, 2018 6:16 PM  

You have absolutely no idea how good we are at killing

On the contrary. That's abundantly clear, assuming the 'we' you speak of is the white West. The problem is that we've never known how to stop. It's the ghost of the berserker. We think we kill for the good, but we don't. We kill for our own narcissistic purposes. We kill because we've made a messiah in our own image and wield weapons forged at his altar. We have no friends there, only sycophants, war propheteers and lackeys of the evil one who are always ready with their hit lists.

Friends are those who fight hard for our soul, who try to break down our narcissistic strongholds. We're good at killing them too.

Until we learn who not to kill and why, the only guarantee is that more and more people will want us gone.

The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The next best time is now.

The wisest words I've read here in a long time.

The choice is before us. We can die fighting an unwinnable war or we can start planting better seeds.

Blogger DonReynolds May 30, 2018 6:40 PM  

Rocklea Marina wrote:More than two sides, think about how permutations of people's are possible, under just two sub-categories, religion and ethnicity for example.

There are always more than two sides...in every conflict.

During WWII, the Swiss Air Force shot down more than two dozen German aircraft that violated Swiss airspace.

Add to the fact that there are more than two sides, the historical fact that allies in war sometimes switch sides and join what was their enemy. What side was Spain on in WWII, or Finland, or Italy, or Thailand? Until Operation Barbarossa, the Soviet Union was an ally of Germany and jointly participated in the invasion of Poland....and occupied more than half the country.

During the Napoleonic wars a number of countries switch sides from time to time, Spain being one noticed the most. A British ship approaching a Spanish ship could not be certain if they were at war with Spain or whether they were allies since they last left port.

Blogger DonReynolds May 30, 2018 7:05 PM  

I am hoping that the people in this country will understand that separation is the HUMANE alternative and without separation, an awful civil war is unavoidable.

There are segments of the current population that merit expulsion (a form of separation) and that act is much more humane (and costly) than alternatives that might be categorized as genocide.

Once it becomes a common understanding that separation is the only workable and practical way to avoid the profuse blood, we may even find a leader who will bring about the separation....with or without negotiation. I am doubtful that those being expelled or re-settled elsewhere will agree to any negotiation, so we must be willing to act without their agreement. If they were rational, they would leave where they are not welcome voluntarily, and no doubt that will happen if they are given a hard deadline to act. But this all depends on leadership.

The partisans in a civil war are not going to bother with separation. Immediate liquidation will be the order of the day with very few prisoners. Removal would seem to be much more attractive to the people being liquidated.

Blogger Ursus Maritimus May 30, 2018 7:29 PM  

The lefts biggest advantage is ORGANIATION.
Their biggest disadvantage is lack of triggerpullers.
Their achilles heel is their OVERCONFIDENCE.

Can they use ORGANIZATION to get triggerpullers? Yes they can.

The world is full of wannabe triggerpullers who'd love to serve the left just for the chance to engage in plunder and rapine. Ask the cartels and the muslim brotherhood to gather the prospective recruits, use the Air Mobility Command and Civil Reserve Air Fleet to pick them up and fly them to US bases, give them weapons from the base armories and just send them out. The bottleneck will be gathering them. Transporting and arming tens of thousands per day is entirely possible. This is how to use ORGANIZATION to rapidly get a lot of (somewhat) loyal armed men.

What about OVERCONFIDENCE. The overconfidence is that they would think they could get rid of them afterwards...

Blogger tublecane May 30, 2018 7:39 PM  

@135- If Southrons and Yankees couldn't separate peacefully, I don't see how we do it.

Even if normie whites lack fighting spirit, no one else does.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf May 30, 2018 7:43 PM  

I'm not sure about Kiwis, but Australia will most likely become Chinese. Demographically Sydney already is a Chinese city.

Queensland's State Government sold off land for a Chinese city to be built near Brisbane.

My guess is that the Chinese will tolerate Islam in their new colonies about as well as they do in Western China.

Blogger James Dixon May 30, 2018 7:46 PM  

> The problem is that we've never known how to stop.

You stop when there are no opponents left standing.

> We think we kill for the good, but we don't.

We kill because it's necessary. The rest of your paragraph merely shows you're incapable of understanding that.

> We can die fighting an unwinnable war or we can start planting better seeds.

Be my guest. Plant all the seeds you want. I even wish you luck. You're going to need it.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf May 30, 2018 7:54 PM  

If European populations have undergone a process of dysgenic collapse for 150+ years, resulting in the loss of at least 1 SD in IQ, this suggests that when The Age Exploration occurred Europeans were 7 pts above modern E. Asians.

We're now nearly 1 SD below.

How does civil war fix this?

Other than eugenics, which the Chinese practice, how is our IQ problem going to be dealt with, if at all?

We cannot rebuild Western Civilization while missing the genes needed to do so.

Blogger SciVo May 30, 2018 8:00 PM  

Mark Stoval wrote:If the USA were to allow the 50 states to leave the union if they want to, and if those states broke apart along tribal lines then we might avoid the greater share of bloodshed. (no hope for it to be totally bloodless)

Out of all of the possible candidates for the next Constitutional amendment, the best right now might be one laying out a process for peaceable secession. (But I'm not necessarily for it, because in the long term any breakup would likely sacrifice our oceanic fortress walls, with China ultimately gaining a foothold in California.)

Blogger wreckage May 30, 2018 8:15 PM  

Assuming race war, assuming a lot of things:

America has a line of segregation between its two largest ethnic populations; North American (British admix) and South American (latin-indian admix). It's the Mexican border.

The Wall is what might contain the violence by permitting whatever degree of self-segregation the population is compelled to. Civil war, in the 4th generation sense, is already underway - MS13 is effectively a paramilitary.

Open conflict may never happen, IF .... IF nationalism can be re-established. Crackdowns on illegal immigration and crime, coupled with identity, may provide the incentives needed. But if the law and the border are not upheld, then yes, war is coming, because the alternative to war will have been discarded.

Blogger Michael Maier May 30, 2018 8:26 PM  

Unknown wrote:Not 12-15 years. The tipping point has already been reached. There is nothing that can be done now that will turn back the tide. Even if the women of the West find their moral compass and the men of the West their testicles, brown women generally don't take The Pill. The androgynous species that GMO and technology are turning whites into don't have the stones to match Smart Islam, which has been growing by stealth for the last 30 years and is now ready to emerge. The upside is that you won't see it coming.

"SMART ISLAM" .... There's a laugh.

They don't have the discipline to be "smrt".

Blogger Michael Maier May 30, 2018 8:28 PM  


Brownies may breed, but they are Catholic



More or less Catholic than the Pope?

Or do you mean Venezuelan-type Catholic?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 30, 2018 8:50 PM  

The choice is before us. We can die fighting an unwinnable war or we can start planting better seeds.
Jesuse won't save you ... from having to take a stand.

Blogger justaguy May 30, 2018 11:04 PM  

Time will tell whether or not the result is civil war- large scale casualties and wide-spread fighting, or the continued power-gathering of the elite where the military and the law enforcement take on the few who try to resist.

With drones, modern military, and a complacent media- those who do not bow will become the terrorists and picked apart singly.That is my guess.

I do not see any large organization that is capable of organizing any resistance in the US. The church? -- see VD's post of its issues, education- taken over and now is propaganda, the people- with lowering IQ and most of the growth in the parasite classes? I don't see another Donald Trump-- too many are being taken down that helped him and the D is too boxed in to save them. He might survive, but will he get a Congress where the majority doesn't hate him? I'm open to hearing other's thoughts on why a portion will rise and fight and how???

Blogger BriarRabbit May 30, 2018 11:33 PM  

He knows the real deal - that the cause of American cultural destruction is 1965 immigration law - it just isn't something you can say out loud. Yet.

Blogger BriarRabbit May 30, 2018 11:39 PM  

Dindus and raghead do not like rural areas.

Pick your cabin location strategically.
Learn basic skills of living - gardening, farming, survival, food preservation ... and actually live it.

Much more enjoyable.

Cities are death traps.

https://www.thelocal.se/20150101/refugees-protest-rural-sweden-re-location

Blogger Raging Papist May 31, 2018 12:03 AM  

The sooner they each the fork in the road, or the breaking point, the better. I'm tired of their demand for "civility" and their compromise with evil.

Blogger Garuna May 31, 2018 2:13 AM  

He didn’t name names, mention President Trump or former President Barack Obama, on purpose. The reason: both sides and their mouthpieces are to blame.

These are the kind of idiots who play the "would you kill baby Hitler" game. Even if there was no Hitler, there would be backlash against Jewish fake Germans. It was inevitable.

The people who blame Obama or Trump from the current situation are just showing that they don't understand what's going on and why it's happening.

Blogger tublecane May 31, 2018 2:22 AM  

@146- Sometime the dishonesty inherent to our political culture gets to me. Look at these men, privileged in the field of intellect, babbling about a real problem in laughably trivial terms.

News bubbles. Lack of knowledge of the other side(s). Yeah, sure, that's why we're withdrawing into ourselves and polarizing. Meanwhile, TENS OF MILLIONS OF ALIENS ARE FLOODING THE COUNTRY.

Hmm, you think that might have something to do with "tribalism?"

Blogger James Dixon May 31, 2018 8:12 AM  

> We cannot rebuild Western Civilization while missing the genes needed to do so.

Which merely shows that you don't understand genetics. The genes are there. They merely need to be cultivated. They haven't been for a hundred years or more, and you see the result. They will be.

Blogger ted beale May 31, 2018 1:11 PM  

Some Guy wrote:He comes back.

he isn't coming back...he's already here...(he never left)...

- - -

"What I want every civic nationalist, every centrist, and every moderate to consider, and eventually, come to terms with is the fact that this is precisely the destiny they helped create. Every single identity-conflicted individual to whom I have ever spoken tries to carve out an exception for their wife, their children, their neighbords, their colleagues, their friends, and their immigrant grandparents. Every single one."

it's a shame you went the last 2 years blowing every one of those types, including IDF dads, in order to...?

it's a shame it took you this long to post something this decent. i guess when you're busy promoting intellectual horseshit alt kikers and busy deleting posts critical of your fag lolbergtard cave patrol...

all i gotta say is welcome to the club you nazi faggot. best steer clear of me when on the field because i am going to fucking destroy everything in front of me and i have eyes on the back of my head.

still plan on being on a new yacht...in the south
i see you're catching up on the leopard...nice...nice...good man
your next step is RCIA...do it faj!

fuck armageddon- los angeles is hell

Blogger Daniel May 31, 2018 4:01 PM  

Yet another guy claiming a black swan event won't happen

Blogger Meng Greenleaf May 31, 2018 10:06 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> We cannot rebuild Western Civilization while missing the genes needed to do so.

Which merely shows that you don't understand genetics.
This is true :)

James Dixon wrote:>
Which merely shows that you don't understand genetics. The genes are there. They merely need to be cultivated. They haven't been for a hundred years or more, and you see the result. They will be.
I suppose I was wondering about the cultivation part / eugenics. How does that happen?

Blogger James Dixon June 02, 2018 5:45 PM  

Hard times breed strong men.

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