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Tuesday, May 01, 2018

Skin in the game

Last week, I was asked how the Israelis regard the Diasporans and their refusal to join the rest of the Jewish nation. This post by a Jew who lived for nearly 30 years in the USA before moving to Israel  is on the harsh side, but it generally sums up the contemptuous attitude of most of the Israelis I know:
I want a divorce. Not from my wife, whom I love dearly, but from the liberal and progressive American Jewish community. From those American Jews who believe that they have a special right to judge and advise the state of Israel because their parents were Jewish.... Your Jewish DNA does not make you any more knowledgeable than anyone else, nor does it give you a greater stake in the Jewish state, unless you decide to accept the generous offer it has made to all Jews everywhere by its Law of Return.

The fact that you had a Bar or Bat Mitzvah does not mean that your piece in the Forward or your letter to the New York Times in which you explain why, as a Jew, you are traumatized by Israel’s efforts to defend her southern border, should be published any more than that of any other person’s.

Even the fact that at some point in your life you have experienced antisemitism doesn’t qualify you to talk about how Israel should behave toward her own antisemitic enemies. If antisemitism in the US is problem for you, there is always that Law of Return.

There is no reason that the pronouncements of “If Not Now” are any more worth listening to than those of the American Nazi Party. Peter Beinart isn’t a more authoritative source about Israel and the Arabs than David Duke just because he has a bigger nose.

The head of the Union for Reform Judaism, Rabbi Rick Jacobs, likes to talk about how the demands he makes of Israel are made out of “unconditional love,” because he wants to “repair it” according to his notion of tikkun olam. What he calls “love,” I call hypocrisy. He owns an apartment in Jerusalem. He should live in it, send his kids to be combat soldiers in the army, pay taxes, and learn to practice situational awareness when he walks the streets or gets on a bus. Then he can try to fix things here (he probably would still give wrong advice, but then at least he would suffer the consequences).
It shouldn't be surprising that the Israelis are little more inclined to put up with the eternal backseat-driving and unrequested tikkun-olaming of their nomadic kindred than anyone else is. The difference is that unlike most other nations, they aren't hesitant to call out the Diasporans for their hypocrisy and their enmity-inspiring behaviors, especially since the latter tend to actively damage Israel's standing in the world.

For example, attempting to eliminate the First Amendment rights of Americans in the name of slowing down the BDS movement is a horrifically bad idea. There are few things more likely to lead to the USA cutting off all foreign aid to Israel; even the most philosemitic Christian Zionist is not going to legally amputate his own tongue for Israel.

Anyhow, this is the sort of thing that NN Taleb means when he talks about the importance of skin in the game; it is a very clear example of how those with skin in the game are always disinclined to respect or pay any attention to those who lack it.

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Blogger Archella May 01, 2018 5:15 AM  

There needs to be a dedicated thread for every periscope. That last one you did, was extremely powerful. Brought up a lot of emotions for me. I graduated from high school in 1990. I'm listening to the Scorpions, Wind of Change. Your periscope made me think of that song, strongly.

Blogger Phillip George May 01, 2018 5:26 AM  

More than any other group haven't (((they))) pushed multi cultic pluralism thinking that would help them.
Duel Citizenships didn't help them.
Ironically, singing Kumbayah might have helped if they really believed in the Y_H segment.

Jesus said, they [of another generation] didn't really believe Moses, nor understand the power .........

messianic Jews, unite

Blogger exfarmkid May 01, 2018 5:43 AM  

Having "skin in the game" used to be a concept so obvious it wasn't even necessary to discuss it.

Moments like this really bring it home how far we have fallen.

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 01, 2018 5:48 AM  

Well God did say everyone would hate them. Now we know that extends to their own people.

Blogger Mr. Deficient May 01, 2018 6:08 AM  

OT: You may already know of these in dentail. I had only had inklings of them. Two big pluses for Christianity as a pillar of western civilization.

The first being the shaping of criminality and non religiosity by the death penalty. The second being the positive eugenic effect of lack of birth control.

https://www.vdare.com/articles/death-penalty

Blogger Durandel May 01, 2018 6:16 AM  

Universal Suffrage was what killed the facsimile of skin-in-the-game for liberal democracy. If the West survives this Crisis of the Third Century of the USA maybe we can build a new system that focuses around skin in the game, equity, and truth. I won’t hold my breath.

Off topic, Vox, have you or any of the Ilk considered doing a book on all the bad scientific research done to prop up falsehoods this past century? Hearing that the “all races are genetically the same” comes from a study of blood proteins among different ethnic groups, along with the test proving so called Ashkenazi 115 avg IQ really has me wondering what other shoddy garbage has been used to trick thebpopulace. With such a horrible replication rate, there must be dozens of studies that upon examination quickly reveal themselves to be frauds or that frauds misenterpretted or over interpreted a study for a political angle.

Blogger Lovekraft May 01, 2018 6:17 AM  

And the concept of verifiability of a claim seems so deep-rooted and perhaps at the root of why the left is so despised. People naturally long to find truth, to not be tricked and to come to a reasonable course of action.

Political correctness turns this on its head. It forces man to put his experiences and observations to the side in order to follow some state-enforced ideology.

Any group that has relied on shaming and tut-tutting will eventually reap what it sows. Which is why Netanyahu's presentation yesterday is going to have deeper ramifications: it presents a new evidentiary standards, puts pressure on Iran to reply with facts (or rhetoric), and also puts liberal kumbaya politicians (Justin Trudeau's the poster child for this).

Not saying that Netanyahu is 100% truthful, but will be interesting how this proceeds (I'm also trying to figure out how the Syrian gas attack false flag ties into this).

Blogger tz May 01, 2018 6:20 AM  

Do read the whole post linked

Leftist Jews manage to Tikkun-off everone. But that is because they think they know how to fix everything - and worse, everyONE and won't stop to think about it. You must do it my way. Instead of planting a tree themselves, or buying land for a greenspace, they pass environmental or zoning laws. Instead of helping people curb bad habits, they ban or tax them or create NGOs.

The statistics show the American Jews, mostly secular - 70% voted Hillary - hate evangelicals. They are becoming via the state, oppressors and persecutors just like the opening chapters of the book of Acts. They want Abortion and LGBTQ privileges. It is becoming hard not to notice.

Even the conservative Jews on the side of Christians manage to show more loyalty to Israel than the USA. I recently linked to a Dennis Prager article where he says the luckiest Jews are born in Israel.

But to return to Tikkun-off people, why, when the right wing Jews know Abortion, Fiat Currency, and LGBTQ stuff is evil, don't they go home and fix Israel first? Israel is a socialist, secular, ethno-national state. Even anti-feminist in some regards. They do want us to tell Muslim countries to be more liberal like with the hijabs, but if we can interfere there, why not Israel?

You can take the post, and substitute "Red State America" for Israel, and it explains why Jews are becoming more hated. The ACLU just went full talmudic to justify shattering the Attorney Client Privilege. They ban prayer but want hard core porn Planned Parenthood sex-ed in schools. They want to ban guns (have they learned nothing from the Nazis?). And now speech. At some point they need to decide to move to Israel, or to join the Red-State defenders, or to stand with Anti-Fa and expose themselves as anti-Christ (kippa and facemask?).

Just as under Lincoln, you were either on one side or the other, there were no neutrals, and we are already past that point now. The deranged liberals won't accept any Trump supporter. Trump supporters are slowly shifting more alt-right as they see their opponents are zombies in the apocalypse that can't be returned to humanity and desire to and will destroy them. The Jews are either zombies or humans in the American conflict, or in Israel.

Blogger Robert What? May 01, 2018 6:33 AM  

Who are the ones pushing the United States into a war with Iran for the benefit of Israel? The diaspora, the Israelis or both?

Blogger VD May 01, 2018 6:47 AM  

Who are the ones pushing the United States into a war with Iran for the benefit of Israel? The diaspora, the Israelis or both?

The neocons have been pushing it for a decade or more. The Israelis don't actually appear to want it, for fear they'll get nuked if the USA does anything.

The current actions appear to be driven by the Trump administration and Saudi Arabia, and are related to draining the Swamp.

Blogger Robert Browning May 01, 2018 6:54 AM  

There are only two Teams. It is Team Jew versus Team white Christian.

Blogger D John May 01, 2018 6:56 AM  

@7

Note that the concept of the verification of claims as the basis of science was implicitly rejected when Popper's intellectual innovation of falsifiability was adopted a few decades ago. Though Popper's boosters will claim no functional difference between the two approaches and the philosophical superiority of Popper, the two approaches do lead to very different methods of science.

Replication aka verification builds up an edifice, it is constructive; whereas falsification is focused on undermining, it is corrosive.

Blogger CM May 01, 2018 7:02 AM  

It shouldn't be surprising that the Israelis are little more inclined to put up with the eternal backseat-driving

It isn't even back seat driving! People in the back seat are just as threatened by a driver's wrong decisions.

They are on the phone telling the driver how to drive!

Blogger Johnny May 01, 2018 7:28 AM  

We do the same thing with our race relations. Those on the spot worry outcomes while those distant preach morals for somebody else to follow.

Blogger Uncle John's Band May 01, 2018 7:30 AM  

For decades, diaspora Jews worked to support Israel. That's probably where a lot of the global Jewish conspiracy idiocy comes from. Once Israel was established, some degree of conflict was inevitable between nationalists with skin in the game and the wandering tikkun olam tribe. The madness of SJW and deep state globalism seems to have been the catalyst.

Blogger Resident Moron™ May 01, 2018 7:36 AM  

Replication aka verification builds up an edifice, it is constructive; whereas falsification is focused on undermining, it is corrosive.

With all due respect, as we say just before being disrespectful, this is nonsense.

Falsifiability is a critical criteria for even being considered as a scientific theory or proposition. The honest scientist is tge person MOST interested in falsifying his own theory because his primary interest and commitment is to discovering and understanding the truth of things.

“The wise man seeks correction.”

The charlatan avoids deflects and denies it.

Blogger D John May 01, 2018 7:46 AM  

@16 Resident Moron

Nope. Falsifiability is a very recent intellectual innovation that is alien to the basis of science. The basis of science going back centuries is verification, not falsification. Popper is a destructive but seductive interloper.

Blogger Stilicho May 01, 2018 7:50 AM  

The avoidance of skin in the game is a hallmark of the rabbit. Oh, they can't avoid it entirely, but ploys like "eat me last", "let's you and him fight", and nomadic resource consumption/depletion are all ways the rabbits try to avoid having skin in the game. After all, what's the point of being a rabbit if you think there will be consequences for your behavior?

Blogger Uncle John's Band May 01, 2018 8:03 AM  

@ 18. Stilicho

That's a good point. People just misunderstand the metaphor and don't see that "rabbits" can be cunning and powerful.

Blogger MJ Meyers May 01, 2018 8:23 AM  

On my blog where I have a post on race/IQ, I have a linked reference to the Ashkenazi Jewish IQ (which is brought up in conjunction with other data points), https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

"The Bell Curve (Herrnstein & Murray, 1994) presented general readers an update of the evidence for the hereditarian position along with several policy recommendations and an original analysis of 11,878 youths (including 3,022 Blacks) from the 12-year National Longitudinal Survey of Youth. It found that most 17-year-olds with high scores on the Armed Forces Qualification Test, regardless of ethnic background, went on to occupational success by their late 20s and early 30s, whereas those with low scores were more inclined to welfare dependency. The study also found that the average IQ for African Americans was lower than those for Latino, White, Asian, and Jewish Americans (85, 89, 103, 106, and 113, respectively; Herrnstein & Murray, 1994, pp. 273–278)." A link to buy The Bell Curve (which I've read) is also included.

I'll have to modify it now. People get stuff wrong. No reasonable audience expects perfection. You correct your errors and move on.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( your mom always did like me best ) May 01, 2018 8:24 AM  

5. Mr. Deficient May 01, 2018 6:08 AM
The first being the shaping of criminality and non religiosity by the death penalty.



that's actually another aspect of my comments about the genetic trash cleaning effects of Honor Dueling.

because it's possible to have highly intelligent Sociopaths, who could easily learn most of the obvious 'get out of jail' cards ( Benefit of Clergy ) and know enough to deploy them.

but Neurodeviants can't help themselves, they offend and abuse others *constantly*.

so, the widespread Death Penalty for most felonies subtracts the low IQ deviants from the gene pool while dueling would screen the high IQ sociopaths, borderlines and narcissists.

Blogger Lazarus May 01, 2018 8:33 AM  

9. Robert What? 6:33 AM
Who are the ones pushing the United States into a war with Iran for the benefit of Israel? The diaspora, the Israelis or both?


I the same people that pushed us into the war with North Korea? How is that working out?

Blogger Rabbi B May 01, 2018 8:34 AM  

Refreshing. Thank you, Vox.

Blogger Lazarus May 01, 2018 8:38 AM  

Apparently, the Israelis have had the material for Netanyahu's recent lecture since January 2017. I suspect Trump was told about it shortly thereafter. The plan for Iran is not a spur of the moment thing.

Blogger Avalanche May 01, 2018 8:45 AM  

"The difference is that unlike most other nations, they aren't hesitant to call out the Diasporans for their hypocrisy"

Israeli Jews don't risk destruction of livelihood and 'social acceptance' as in the U.S. or actual fines and jailing in many other countries. Thank God for the Founders and the First Amendment (rapidly being chipped away) for the slight protection we still have (in some places).

I'm trying to learn from your view on this, Vox, but since the Israel Jews absolutely LOVE the Diaspora-provided protections they benefit from. Are you saying they don't -- both benefit and want these continued? (UN vetos? millions of dollars of "aid"? the U.S. hunting down and punishing anti-semitism anywhere on the planet? the U.S. losing blood and treasure fighting wars that are none of our business? Where are Israeli jews saying: "stop, you've done enough? We're grown up now.")

I think I get your nuanced support for the country and its people. You have a deeper, longer, broader familiarity with 'actual' Israeli jews. Those of us who mostly know Diaspora Jews, and suffer their depredations onbehalf of Israel (whether or not that is merely an excuse for parasitism). I'm guessing you see what they 'could' be; I can only see what they allow and support their kin in doing, and do themselves, to my people.

If you would find and take the time, I would be very interested (and helped, no doubt) if you would lay out why / how you differentiate them. (If it is as you write:) Why is the damage and destruction (worldwide) of the Diaspora jews accepted by, urged on, and supported by Israel and the Israeli jews? I cannot just get over / excuse the vicious attack on the USS Liberty - BY the Israeli jews -- and the cover-up of that attack 'managed' by both Diaspora and Israeli jews. And that cover-up is still in place and viciously managed -- by both groups -- even today, 50 years later.

I'm struggling to find ANY way to not view the jews -- of both 'kinds' to be my active enemies. I don't see the difference you make, except maybe, possibly, in degree; nothing in kind. (Their "evil eviltry" really blocks that view.)

Blogger Avalanche May 01, 2018 8:56 AM  

@17 The basis of science going back centuries is verification, not falsification.

"I invented and am making many gazillion dollars selling statins! I'm going to do studies, and support/pay for studies, and finally only allow studies, that "verify" my belief in statins! I am NOT going to pay for, support, or even allow to be published any studies that 'falsify' my beliefs in my money-maker."

There. Your view is "falsified" in two sentences describing reality.

Blogger Avalanche May 01, 2018 9:01 AM  

@21 "dueling would screen the high IQ sociopaths, borderlines and narcissists."

Only if they lose.

Blogger Nakota Publishing May 01, 2018 9:09 AM  

I've said it before: the Israeli-Palenstinian conflict is none of America's business. But if they pass the BDS censorship bill I will be loudly and publicly boycotting Israel.

Blogger English Tom May 01, 2018 9:30 AM  

See the book: open secrets-Israel's nuclear and foreign policy by Israel Zahak. Published in 1995. They've been planning war with Iran since 1992. Zahak says there are two possibilities. Israel would deal with Iran alone OR the West will be "persuaded" to deal with Iran. Either way it's coming. Here's to the rain of death hitting Israel.

Blogger English Tom May 01, 2018 9:34 AM  

The USS Liberty. What about 9/11 Avalanche. When are (((they))) going to be held accountable for that atrocity?

Blogger Dirk Manly May 01, 2018 9:41 AM  

@12

"Replication aka verification builds up an edifice, it is constructive; whereas falsification is focused on undermining, it is corrosive."


Falsifiability IS important.

For example, Look at the Mann "hockey stick" graph.

The two Canadian statisticians showed that REGARDLESS of what data you threw into U. of Pennsylvania "Climatologist" Micheal Mann's algorithm, you go the same graph.

This is how they proved that Mann's output is not merely junk, but academically and criminally fraudulent.

If our standard was verifiability and ONLY verifiability, then Mann's junk-not-science would still be standing. The statisticians showed that Mann's algorithm's have NO room for falsifiability -- because random, or even down-trending data STILL produced an up-sloping graph with an exponential upturn at the end.

You REALLY don't seem to understand why falsifiability is absolutely as important as verifiability.

Verifiability in conjunction with falsifiability means that ONLY good theories get built up, and that ALL bad theories are corrosively destroyed.

Blogger VD May 01, 2018 9:47 AM  

I'm trying to learn from your view on this, Vox, but since the Israel Jews absolutely LOVE the Diaspora-provided protections they benefit from.

Everyone loves free money, even when they know it is bad for them. The Israelis are no exception.

Are you saying they don't -- both benefit and want these continued?

Did I say it? Learn to read what is actually there, not what you suspect might be there.

Blogger VD May 01, 2018 9:48 AM  

If you would find and take the time, I would be very interested (and helped, no doubt) if you would lay out why / how you differentiate them.

Skin in the game. Once there was a time when the two groups were virtually identical. The more time passes, the more responsible and self-sustaining the group with the skin in the game will be.

Israel is not the problem. Israel is the solution. That doesn't mean it doesn't cause other problems along the way, though.

Blogger Orthodox May 01, 2018 9:49 AM  

Israel's worst enemies are American leftist Jews and neocons (but I repeat myself). Their behavior is the source of growing antisemitism, directly through anti-nationalist policies such as mass migration and indirectly by attacking gentile cultures and religion. The Diaspora have no skin in the game anywhere, they curse Israel and the USA at the same time.

Blogger Dirk Manly May 01, 2018 10:00 AM  

@21

"so, the widespread Death Penalty for most felonies subtracts the low IQ deviants from the gene pool while dueling would screen the high IQ sociopaths, borderlines and narcissists."

OUTLAW status accomplishes the same thing.

An Outlaw is one who is outside the protection of the law. If you go and torture an Outlaw, and there is overwhelming evidence ... say you do it in the middle of mainstreet, in front of the court house ... now prosecutor will indict you, and no lawman will arrest you. Because your victim has been declared to be literally outside the protection of all laws. Not even if you go back home, grab a gun, and shoot him in the head -- it's NOT murder 1, because... the dead man was outside the protection of the law.

And 1st or 2nd degree murderer who somehow gets paroled should be placed in Outlaw status for the duration of his life.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira May 01, 2018 10:00 AM  

The owner of a gentlemen's club where I was employed, was an Israeli who hired me because his girlfriend loved me as a DJ from years before. One of the best dudes I've ever known. And entirely different from the local ones.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma May 01, 2018 10:08 AM  

The Diasporans are aggravating everyone around the world, but many people are displeased with Israel as well.
More people are knowing.
Chosenite's Lament -

History has shown your genetic disease
You're parasitically prone, you can never be pleased
Everywhere you've gone, you've been treated for fleas
It's time to delouse the house, we don't need none of these
Arming themselves to the teeth while taking Americans' guns
And all the time they're having so much fun
Just take a look what they've done

They took the gold from Qaddafi and the petrol from Hussein
Playing god with Assad's democratic regime
All over your TalmudVision ISIS is seen
But that big plasma screen is a crisis machine
High definition for the goyim
Holy Holohoax, Ilya Ehrenburg's dream
There's too many facets for you to understand the plan
for plundering opium & lithium in Afghanistan
to justifying a fraudulent crisis to attack Iran
and finalize the Greater Israel by taking Pakistan
Just look at the blue borders on their vile flag
The designer of that thing is a foul fag
Acting like it represents Tallit to this and that
But I have seen the 1947 Rabbi Fischmann map
The greed, lord have mercy
You want Iraq, Syria, Egypt, and even a little piece of Turkey

Tell me, when will you ever cease
Time immemorial you've acted like nefarious beasts
I can't follow your Hollowhoax dollar score
Especially when the Holodomor killed a lot more
I highly recommend it, that rhetoric you should end it
Your anti-Gentile penchant has me very offended
And with a straight face you embrace how it's right
You're overplaying your sympathy card again Talmudite

The people you call goyim are starting to awaken
and if you haven't noticed, they're focused on taking back their nation
Historically parasitic, utter degeneration
That is why you've been kicked out of 109 locations

All I'm saying
Chosenites Lament
God is not your real estate agent
Philistine aint for rent
All I'm really saying
Chosenites Lament
God is not your little real estate agent
The Lavant is not for rent

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma May 01, 2018 10:11 AM  

I can visualize the laughter when they pass a bill like NAFTA
and tell you there's a crisis named ISIS they've been after
They're setting off bombs, they're chopping off heads
Whatever boogieman they can get under your bed
And if you refuse to turn your state into a comprador
You can bet your petrol you're about to have a proper war
You're not allowed to have a sandstone aquifer
for independence. what the fck you think they killed Qaddafi for
They don't like One World enemies
This is the same pack the whacked Jack Kennedy
This is the same clique that kidnapped the Lindburg baby
and murdered it ritualistically

The system is comprised for a liars disguise
The lower you're willing to go now the higher you rise
The less empathy you possess, the more capital you'll ultimately be able to invest
in a fraudulent enterprise

Their talmudic lies are meticulously stacked
If you're able to deconstruct, it's ridiculously whack
Their talmudic eyes are specifically rat
You heard of vampire killers? This aint different from that

All I'm saying
Chosenites better Lament
God is not your real estate agent
Or they're going to be force to repent
All I'm really saying
Chosenites better repent
Your actions have been kind of flagrant
I don't think you quite understand it, all your sympathy cards have been spent

I want to give you a firm handshake
break your knuckles knock you the fck out wake you the fck back up and make you Rachel Corrie pancakes
The things I see you celebrating are utterly disgusting
From your eating of Haman's ears to promoting all these queers to your baby penis sucking
This is fascinating
You must be meshuggeneh


All I'm saying
Chosenites better Lament
God is not a real estate agent
Come on, it's not hard to understand my man
All I'm saying
You're a traumanik

You constantly claim you're a genius
While you suck baby penis
You like to mutilate, it's just a part of your nature
Disrespect your woman
Can you see there's a dichotomy
You'd have to be blind not to see
It's not about what you do to me
I'm simply making observations that I see
and what you accuse your opposition of is what you do
I racked my brain trying to understand
All of these atrocity crimes I see with my own eyes


Climate deniers got me hotter than a hoarders head
Make me want to take them way back into the slaughter shed
The engineering is so glaring it's a power shed
Imagine that, water coming out a German shower head

(Michelle Fields hoax on Trump campaign)
omg I'm so offended
He grabbed my arm I think he bent it
He grabbed my arm, I almost did a slide
I haven't felt this bad since my father died

These people have Tay Sachs
The psychological ashkenazim disorder which attacks
It's so easy to diagnose, they're feeding on the host
Parasitic to the max


Chosenite's Lament by PAYDAY MONSANTO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bJx75zkHoI

Blogger Brick Hardslab May 01, 2018 10:32 AM  

As Ann Coulter said, "how many Jews are there anyway?" We have a couple dozen or more dual citizenship Israelis in our legislature. If that's not nepotism nothing is.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 01, 2018 10:53 AM  

D John wrote:Note that the concept of the verification of claims as the basis of science was implicitly rejected when Popper's intellectual innovation of falsifiability was adopted a few decades ago.

Results should be repeatable. Theories should be falsifiable.

Blogger OneWingedShark May 01, 2018 1:14 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Apparently, the Israelis have had the material for Netanyahu's recent lecture since January 2017. I suspect Trump was told about it shortly thereafter. The plan for Iran is not a spur of the moment thing.
Given the theatrical nature of the presentation, and it WAS theatrical, I wouldn't be surprised if it was staged; but Cui Bono?

A bunch of the 4chaners think Israel (though it's sometimes hard to tell where the mocking ends, I think there's a general sense of No Thank You for this war), and it makes sense to spend someone else's soldiers instead of your own, if you can. (eg Let's you and him fight.)

Blogger Avalanche May 01, 2018 3:42 PM  

@30 "The USS Liberty. What about 9/11 Avalanche. When are (((they))) going to be held accountable for that atrocity?"

I agree Tom -- but I'm ex-Navy, so the Liberty is hugely important to me. And the actions, cover-ups, and lies strike closer to home for me.

Blogger Avalanche May 01, 2018 3:44 PM  

@33 VD: "Skin in the game."

Thank you, I will go read the book.

Blogger Yakov Merkin May 01, 2018 3:57 PM  

As I have said before, since moving to Israel over a year and a half ago (and since joining the IDF about 5 months ago), my opinions of mainstream American Jewry, which was never high, with some few notable exceptions, have only gone down further. I’m fast running out of patience with most of them, and I very much hope that some of the few who I know that think as I do make their way here before too long.

OpenID bgkoranburner May 01, 2018 4:10 PM  

I don't blame jews for eating all my cashews, but I understand the goldmine importing 55IQ HIV+ Somalis onto welfare is for them, when FREE AIDS meds run $8000 a month per person.

send his kids to be combat soldiers in the army, pay taxes

I thought only Freiers paid taxes or is that just in their host nations?
"“What do Israelis say when dodging military reserve duty? ‘What do I look like, a freier?’"
https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2015/03/04/thou-shalt-not-be-a-freier/

Jesus said, they [of another generation] didn't really believe Moses, nor understand the power
I heard the only time Moses could keep jews in line was when GOD parted the Red Sea so they didn't have any choice.

millions of dollars of "aid"? the You misspelled 8 Billions a year, 1/2 of it STR8 cash

And 1st or 2nd degree murderer who somehow gets paroled should be placed in Outlaw status for the duration of his life

If you did that for pedophiles just think of how many jews would make Aliyah! 1/2 of Hollywood would be there the next day.

OT: at a discussion of giving tranny hormones to kids, I used my gay card before saying that I thought the only ethical situation for stopping puberty was if kids had a long term disability were the parents would have to be caring for them for the rest of their lives. Parents would be better off caring for a 100lbs invalid than trying to roll over a 6'tall one to clean diapers.

OpenID vfmshadow0342 May 01, 2018 5:25 PM  

There are few things more likely to lead to the USA cutting off all foreign aid to Israel; even the most philosemitic Christian Zionist is not going to legally amputate his own tongue for Israel.

VD, I think you underestimate the power of the Dispensationalist beliefs. The morons who post there think they would be doing God's will by laying down America lives for Israel (and denounce the people who question that belief).

What bothers me about it is that their attitude is basically Jew-worship in the name of God.

OpenID vfmshadow0342 May 01, 2018 5:26 PM  

Correction: *a good number of the morons who post at any conservative site (eg American Thinker, PJ Media)

Blogger fiendeJ May 01, 2018 6:19 PM  

Regarding falsification vs. replicability, and Taleb.

Replication proves robustness.
Falsification antifragility.

A lack of either, fragility.

Blogger Peter May 01, 2018 7:45 PM  

This whole Israel thing .. lets take all of the most hated people in history, put them in one place, in the desert, no water or energy resources and surrounded by their enemies. Old proverb about all eggs in one basket seems to come in here. If i were a Jew, i would stay in NY city, better food at Katz's AND you have the whole US military standing between you and your enemies... having a home in the middle east is way overated.

Blogger VD May 02, 2018 5:46 AM  

If i were a Jew, i would stay in NY city, better food at Katz's AND you have the whole US military standing between you and your enemies.

What if the US military is full of your enemies and New York City is surrounded by them? Like those odds?

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