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Thursday, May 03, 2018

Where is the problem?

Population experts are belatedly beginning to worry about the effects of abortion on various countries:
Scientists have sparked controversy after creating a pin-prick test that can determine the gender of a baby after just eight weeks.

Concerns have been raised the test could trigger a rise in sex-selective abortions, especially in countries such as India and China where families desire boys over girls for cultural reasons.

A recently published government report in India found that the country has 63 million fewer woman then it should because families are choosing to abort their female babies.

The situation is much the same in China, where men outnumber women by 34 million - significantly more than the entire population of Australia.

Experts claim the controversial one-child policy, which lasted from the 1970s until 2015, helped to create the imbalance as families sought to have a son.

It is feared the new pin-prick test could fuel a 'genocide' of female babies in India and China as parents are given more time than previously to make a decision on whether to abort their babies.

India's Government revealed in January that there will be 105 boys for every 100 girls without any human intervention. But previous estimates from 2011 suggest the problem is already worse than that, with 914 girls under the age of six to every 1,000 boys the same age. In China, the UN states there are nearly 116 boys for every 100 girls, however reports claim the ratio is much higher in poor rural areas.
I fail to see how this is a problem. Isn't worrying about the male-female ratio transphobic, considering that an individual can now be whatever sex it identifies as being? And it's very identity politicist, to say nothing of culturally appropriative, to interfere with the individual choices of women in other countries to make choices about their own bodies.

The Alt-Right is inevitable because we do not advocate suicide, on either an individual or a group basis.

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43 Comments:

Blogger Hammerli280 May 03, 2018 11:12 AM  

Those of us working national security issues have worried about this for twenty years or so. Both India and China have a surplus of men of military age. Which is a recipe for war.

Blogger James May 03, 2018 11:12 AM  

The left's lunacy becomes very visible in this issue. Remember how feminists gave BJ Clinton a pass on his sexual abuse because he was their ally? Here you have feminists giving the murder of females a pass because "my body, my choice", which apparently is more important than life.

Blogger Dirk Manly May 03, 2018 11:15 AM  

And where will all the surplus males end up?

A) Army/Marine forces conducting expeditionary operations (i.e. invasions) ... motivated by the opportunity to enter a land which isn't a giant sausage-fest.

2) Immivading the civilized world.... with the gleeful cooperation of the politicians because the Marxist government-provided pensions-for-all systems (like Social Security) were designed for 4+ children per couple surviving to adulthood, NOT 1-2 children per couple, because the rest were all aborted/birth-controlled out existance.

Blogger Edward Isaacs May 03, 2018 11:21 AM  

How much longer will the Most Blessed of all women hold back her Son's avenging hand. The devil hates the woman with a special viciousness. Anything to degrade her or her image.

Blogger Crew May 03, 2018 11:22 AM  

It is amusing to see that journalists at the Daily Mail do not know the difference between then and than:

63 million fewer woman then it should because families are choosing to abort their female babies

They also seemed to want to obfuscate the current male to female ratio by giving a different set of numbers.

914 girls to 1000 boys under six is ~109/100 although the live-birth ratio is likely slightly higher than that.

However, a couple of things should be remembered in this discussion.

1. With modern medical care and nutrition, male babies who would not survive to term or who died after a few years are now surviving longer, thus skewing the 105/100 number higher.

2. There is believed to be rampant hiding of female children in China (ie, failing to register them) and if accounted for would probably bring their live birth ratio closer to what is expected.

3. Different races have different live birth ratios, with East Asians being higher for males and Africans being lower ...

Blogger Dirk Manly May 03, 2018 11:25 AM  

"Those of us working national security issues have worried about this for twenty years or so. Both India and China have a surplus of men of military age. Which is a recipe for war."

That was the FIRST thought I had when I heard about China's one-child-per couple policy back in the 1980's... that the Chinese government were deliberately creating conditions where their (then future) male population would be EAGER to go to war, just for the opportunity to invade neighboring countries so that they can meet their women (aided all the more by killing some of the neighboring men).

In fact, it nearly has to be done, because vast legions of single men with no hope of getting wives is a prescription for revolution if they aren't killed off in foreign war(s).

That both China and India have this situation, and they border each other... is good for the rest of the world.

An old saying in Europe was that "when the cousins argue, the people die" (i.e. the royalty of Europe were all closely related to each other through intermarriage, and their arguments turn into wars). And of course, petty arguments among family members are ALWAYS a good reason to kill off portions of your own populations... [Especially if you realize that pre-Napoleon, the Knights (i.e. nobility) of the opposing armies would eash line up on their own extreme right (thereby avoiding contact with each other)...and winners of most battles were literally "who killed more peasants?" Blood sport, with peasants as the live game.

Nothing new, really. David did the same thing to the husband of a woman he wanted.

Blogger Dirk Manly May 03, 2018 11:28 AM  

@5

"2. There is believed to be rampant hiding of female children in China (ie, failing to register them) and if accounted for would probably bring their live birth ratio closer to what is expected."

Still, stories of peasant Chinese men walking DOZENS of miles to visit a girl started circulating in the 1990s.

Blogger FUBARwest May 03, 2018 11:35 AM  

What will the feminists say about this?

Blogger Mocheirge May 03, 2018 11:41 AM  

In addition to the increased threat of war mentioned, a shortage of females is going to make hypergamy even worse in those nations. Hopefully the rumor of unregistered daughters in China is true, or Chinese men will be given a choix terrible: marry a harpy or pine for a foreign woman who will change your home nation's culture.

Blogger Crew May 03, 2018 11:47 AM  

That was the FIRST thought I had when I heard about China's one-child-per couple policy back in the 1980's... that the Chinese government were deliberately creating conditions where their (then future) male population would be EAGER to go to war, just for the opportunity to invade neighboring countries so that they can meet their women (aided all the more by killing some of the neighboring men).

That doesn't make sense to me, because:

1. Mao ramped up the Chinese population enormously before the OCP by convincing women in China it was their patriotic duty to have babies. Hmmm, that technique would work elsewhere.

2. Then they discovered that they would have a problem feeding all those people so they instituted the OCP.

3. However, under normal conditions, there are about 107 live males born per 100 live females in the Chinese population, and that ratio does not cross 1:1 until around age 30 (or possibly later for the Chinese, the crossover is for Caucasian pops).

Also, given the number of women who do not marry, and the above numbers, there will always be a surplus of males with which to wage war and they will not be only-males and thus families will be less concerned about them being in the military!

So, I don't think they created the OCP to ensure they had a surplus of males for the military.

Maybe they did it so a certain CEO could engage in his homosexual activities:

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/04/todays-blind-items-they-dont-exist.html

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction May 03, 2018 11:57 AM  

It would be interesting to contrast Christian Indians and Chinese to their non-Christian brethren in this regard. Something tells me they wont have the same gender imbalance issue.

Blogger YclepedBobAli May 03, 2018 12:06 PM  

It's so depressing. In Australia all the major cities are subject to city planning that is designed to DOUBLE their populations in twenty years. Already catching the train to western Sydney for some guys I know is literally like Frodo and Sam when they're caught up in the Orc troop in Mordor when they're moving to the black gates. I guess the only good thing is that Australia will be dominated by Indians and Chinese so it will be raped financially, just not literally.

Blogger Lovekraft May 03, 2018 12:07 PM  

Confucious say 'man who has no girlfriend will find a handy alternative'

and

'man who is shamed in using hand for pleasure, will use hand to strike the shamer.'

Blogger Brick Hardslab May 03, 2018 12:14 PM  

Saw an article today about infanticide in Pakistan. Talk about tragic dirt. Pretty soon they'll be turning our dirt as tragic as their own.

Blogger AnvilTiger May 03, 2018 12:20 PM  

Sex robots will be a booming business in a few years....

OpenID everybodyhatesscott May 03, 2018 12:21 PM  

Just wait until they figure out if "born this way" is true and there's a test for it.

Blogger JRH, esq. May 03, 2018 12:25 PM  

Once they find an early test for homosexuality, heads will explode from the dissonance between the unfairness of carrying an unwanted baby and the need to support gay rights. I'd expect the result to end up with gays about as common as Downs Syndrome babies have become in every country that isn't European or Anglo.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 03, 2018 12:40 PM  

JRH, esq. wrote:I'd expect the result to end up with gays about as common as Downs Syndrome babies have become in every country that isn't European or Anglo.
97% of Downs children are aborted.
Something like 60% of non-Catholic parents of children with Downs wind up joining the Catholic Church.
These are not unrelated statistics.

Blogger Giraffe May 03, 2018 12:46 PM  

100 Million "excess" men.

Feminism, socialism, and secularism kill by the hundreds of millions. Satan's real name must be "ism".

Blogger tz May 03, 2018 12:51 PM  

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Blogger Matt May 03, 2018 12:58 PM  

"How much longer will the Most Blessed of all women hold back her Son's avenging hand"

Not to derail, but... are you under the impression Mary tells God what to do?

Blogger AaMcavoy May 03, 2018 1:00 PM  

Perhaps there is an excess of single males, but in China at least, there is an even greater excess of needy grandparents.

Four grandparents have two children, who have one son. Someone should chime in, but I understand in China there is a strong duty to care for your elderly. This sounds more like a recipe for revolution than war, but I'm not familiar with the culture.

Blogger MJimmy May 03, 2018 1:12 PM  

@14 Female infanticide in Pakistan

Blogger Iron Spartan May 03, 2018 1:14 PM  

Demographics is destiny. China has no choice but to be expansionist or to collapse into civil war (or violent internal purge). I didn't realize India was in the same boat. The war for dominance of SE Asia cannot be avoided, only delayed. It will be the bloodiest conflict the world has ever seen and if we are lucky the God Emperor will keep us out of it.

Blogger freddie_mac May 03, 2018 1:15 PM  

@7 Dirk Manley
Still, stories of peasant Chinese men walking DOZENS of miles to visit a girl started circulating in the 1990s.

And women who managed to escape from North Korea didn't get very far once they made it to the China side of the border.

@17 JRH, esq
Once they find an early test for homosexuality ... end up with gays about as common as Downs Syndrome babies

There was lots of noise about the search for a gay gene in the 90s, and about the time that the Downs Syndrome test came on the market, that research just went away. Somewhere, people have already made the connection between test and abortion, and decided to stop looking.

Amusingly enough, even the liberals realized that those horrible Christians wouldn't bother with the tests or abortions, but the liberals would do both.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 03, 2018 1:17 PM  

And where will all the surplus males end up?

1) Army/Marine forces conducting expeditionary operations (i.e. invasions) ... motivated by the opportunity to enter a land which isn't a giant sausage-fest.

2) Immivading the civilized world.... with the gleeful cooperation of the politicians because the Marxist government-provided pensions-for-all systems (like Social Security) were designed for 4+ children per couple surviving to adulthood, NOT 1-2 children per couple, because the rest were all aborted/birth-controlled out existance.


@3 Dirk Manly
I suspect war for China and immivasion for India.

In fact, I know that Canada is already basically being used as a safety valve for the surplus sons of India's middle and upper classes. They're snapping up white Canadian women like crazy. This may be true for Britain, Australia, and N.Z. as well. It would be happening in the U.S. too, but outside of areas like Silicon Valley, it's muted due to our relatively tighter immigration laws.

As far as war... surplus males have been a chronic problem in East Asia. There are strong hints that the Taiping Rebellion, and Japan's escapades before and during WW2, were fueled by excess males. This is also predicated on the fact that East Asian men aren't as able to attract white women as South Asian men are.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants May 03, 2018 1:35 PM  

Calling the letter peckers at Daily Mail, "journalists," is your first mistake.
Bozo the gorilla would have less errors in stories than what's in the average DM post.
I read a story on Arizona Central a couple of days back, and it was literally the same paragraph written three different ways, with inconsistent dates, inconsistent locations and the same quote was attributed to 3 different people, one each in the 3 separate paragraphs.
The best part? It was linked on Drudge Report.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants May 03, 2018 1:41 PM  

I'm sure (eventually) having dozens, (hundreds?) of excess males vs. females in the future will all work out totally fine. What could *possibly* go wrong with such a scenario?
What with genetic designer babies just around the corner, along w/life-like sex robots, and the possibility to live even longer?
Sounds like a recipe for success.

Blogger Crew May 03, 2018 1:58 PM  

There are strong hints that the Taiping Rebellion

It's a foregone conclusion, isn't it, that the rebellion was largely because of too many unmarried males. As to the causes, part of it has to be hypergamy meaning that some males had many wives and many males had no hope of ever getting married.

There may have been other reasons as well, of course, perhaps among them was the practice of dividing farming land among sons leading to many men not having enough land to support a family ... and probable historical female infanticide etc.

Blogger Dave W. May 03, 2018 2:14 PM  

No wonder they're always asking for bobs and vagene

Blogger Robert What? May 03, 2018 2:58 PM  

Wasn't WW1 basically a kill off of Europe's (then) excess male population?

OpenID hornofthemark May 03, 2018 3:26 PM  

FrameGames had a stream the other day where they talked about China using their surplus males to ethnically cleanse Tibet. Basically, they're sending them there to pick up Taiwanese girls, raise the family Chinese, and write any notion of a non-Chinese Tibet right out of history.

OpenID bgkoranburner May 03, 2018 3:29 PM  

I still think the best choice is to allow women to get any abortion they want but if they apply for a marriage license their partner is informed & given the option to break all contracts with her if not married.
Skanks could turn their vag into roast beef, good girls wouldn't have abortions, would make good men want to apply for marriage license, prevent good men who want to have kids from marrying a skank whose fertility has been messed up, & once good men start saying NO less women will want abortion.

Different races have different live birth ratios, with East Asians being higher for males and Africans being lower

We have made great strides in keeping crack baby niglets alive when born premature, but hardly any difference in premi babies that leave healthy. This means we have more unhealthy permanently disabled niglets getting taxpayer paid care for life. East Asian & Whites need hardly any care until they are 50+ compared to black/brown.


OT: Moslem tranny mixer

Teacher chosen by jew dykes disses TRUMP in person
TRUMP should have known any teacher winning would be pushing the POZZ

gaye TRUMP refugee letters full of moslem Taqiyya lies while wearing buttons supporting trannies. trans & moslem don't mix

https://www.yahoo.com/news/teacher-year-sends-tump-message-without-speaking-224904855.html

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction May 03, 2018 3:43 PM  

Calling the letter peckers at Daily Mail, "journalists," is your first mistake.
Bozo the gorilla would have less errors in stories than what's in the average DM post.

No one cares.

I read a story on Arizona Central a couple of days back, and it was literally the same paragraph written three different ways, with inconsistent dates, inconsistent locations and the same quote was attributed to 3 different people, one each in the 3 separate paragraphs.
No one cares

The best part? It was linked on Drudge Report.
No one cares

Blogger Julian Kowalczyk May 03, 2018 4:08 PM  

Males are expendable females not so much. One male can impregnate at least two females per day. More if he has a lot of vitality. Do the math. But this is the system employed in third world countries.

looks to me like a gradual descent into hell.

Blogger Dad29 May 03, 2018 6:37 PM  

Ah. We now have entire nations of InCels, who--it is reported--are inclined to school shootings and other mass-murderous activities.

Blogger Thucydides May 03, 2018 8:17 PM  

Mark Styne had perhaps the best quote about the results of China's "one child" policy and the male/female imbalance:

"China may be the first gay superpower since Sparta"

Blogger SirHamster May 03, 2018 9:38 PM  

Theproductofafineeduction wrote:It would be interesting to contrast Christian Indians and Chinese to their non-Christian brethren in this regard. Something tells me they wont have the same gender imbalance issue.

Related thought, that would have a strong impact on the culture of their next generations.

I've heard that Christianity conquered Rome through the desirability of Christian wives.

When the girls are probably Christian because they aren't aborted, how long until Christians become the majority of those countries?

OpenID paulmurray May 04, 2018 2:32 AM  

@21 - "Not to derail, but... are you under the impression Mary tells God what to do? "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veneration_of_Mary_in_the_Catholic_Church
https://www.catholic.com/index.php/qa/what-is-the-cult-of-mary

It's all rather pagan, rather similar to the ancient ideas of Gods as being pretty much like people, but bigger. Mary "tells Jesus what to do" because she is his mother. Being a woman, she's sweet and gentle and so she has a civilising and moderating influence on the godhead, who is otherwise a shade rough and uncouth.

OpenID paulmurray May 04, 2018 2:36 AM  

@30 "No wonder they're always asking for bobs and vagene"

LOL. Funny as all hell - what was that link again? Oh, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GM2YTZ_j6Q .

Blogger D John May 04, 2018 8:35 AM  

@25 freddie_mac

Very true about the early genetic tests killing interest in a biological test for homosexuality among the medical community in the West 20-ish years ago. But biotech marches on and it isn't only being done in the West. Eventually a test will be developed by specialists in East or South Asia, and then we're back to the 'splody heads situation.

Probably multiple tests. Female homosexuality appears to be almost totally bisexual in nature - which is sensible from an evolutionary perspective. Male bisexuality appears to be male heterosexuals in a constrained or socially permissive environment - prison or ancient Athens/ modern NYC. Male exclusive homosexuality is the odd duck and may be multiple syndromes with different causes but the same behavioral outcome - genes, hormonal dysfunctions in utero, and/or the gay germ hypothesis.

The 'splody heads will be interesting to watch.

Blogger FlashGordon May 04, 2018 9:01 AM  

Result: big increase in polyandry.

Blogger DonReynolds May 04, 2018 12:24 PM  

The balance between the numbers of men and the numbers of women only seems valid in the world of paper dolls, where there is monogamous pairing of the two. Even there, the balance means nothing without special attention to how the society is organized. In a society where some of the men can have multiple wives, then the balance means nothing.

If three men and three women were shipwrecked on a remote deserted island and assuming they were roughly the same age and reasonably compatible, what would happen? Pollyanna would say that the women would use their powers of ranking to match up the men and women into three natural pairs and live happily ever after on their new island home.

Of course, the egalitarians of the world would be grossly disappointed, because that is NOT what would happen. Men are not equal to other men and men are not equal to women, nor would they become so by virtue of being isolated.

The men would rank themselves and in the end.....one man would be dominant and end up with all the women. The other two men (if they were not killed in the process) would face a life of service and poverty, one likely being more favored and privileged than the other.

Since when has it ever been any different?

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