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Saturday, May 26, 2018

You must withhold judgment

The Z-man reconsiders the God-Emperor in light of the recent Deep State revelations:
The bigger issue though, the thing now looming over his entire presidency, is the wide ranging conspiracy engineered by senior elements of the intelligence community. A few months ago it looked like a handful of radicalized mid-level bureaucrats. What’s becoming clear is this was a conspiracy hatched by the men at the top of the intelligence community, with help from the White House, to not only help Hillary Clinton, but engineer a coup after the election to get rid of Trump. This reality has to color any assessment of Trump.

Think about the stones it takes to face off against the intel community. They literally know all of your secrets. In the case of Trump, they have the secrets of his friends, family and business associates. Even if they can’t ruin him, they can ruin people he knows. It was 18 months ago that Chuck Schumer warned Trump about doing this. When Schumer said, “Intel officials ‘have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you'” he was not being flippant or rhetorical. We now know the intel community has been at this for a while.

It’s not just the fact that the intel community has the capacity to spy on everyone and appears to be spying on everyone. It’s that these are vicious, craven people lacking a moral compass. It’s ironic that James Comey was fond of accusing his people of lacking a moral compass, when it is now clear the guy is a sociopath incapable of knowing right from wrong. Clapper and Brennan have no scruples whatsoever. There’s also the fact that on the CIA side, they still have guys who kill people on behalf of the American deep state.
This is exactly right. That's why I've been recommending cutting President Trump considerable slack from the start. You cannot reasonably judge a performance when you do not know the degree of difficulty involved.

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83 Comments:

Blogger Matt May 26, 2018 8:36 AM  

Brass Balls.

Blogger Peaceful Poster May 26, 2018 8:37 AM  

Yuge.

Blogger Dire Badger May 26, 2018 8:39 AM  

Like Z-Man isn't an absolute nevertrumper. He may seem reasonable-ish now, but the moment he thinks Trump might do something he doesn't understand he will start screaming like a twelve-year-old Down's kid denied Candy. Again.


It's the NeverTrumper reality. After the last year and a half, anyone who isn't on the Train is incapable of grasping reality and will NEVER do more than stand in the tracks and hope to be carried along instead of run over.

Blogger #7139 May 26, 2018 8:50 AM  

When the God-Emperor meme appeared during the 2016 election, I considered it a funny joke. During the past 18 months, it became the reality. Trump really is the God-Emperor. It is incredible to watch.

Blogger Johnny May 26, 2018 8:56 AM  

You cannot reasonably judge a performance when you do not know the degree of difficulty involved.

A lot of us know that already and those who don't should take it into consideration. Right now Trump is so much better than the second choice that there is no second choice.

Blogger Nathan May 26, 2018 9:33 AM  

IC reform when? Its long past time that these agencies be significantly restructured, and new more effective safeguards be put into place.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey May 26, 2018 9:40 AM  

I don’t understand why we don’t have a military tribunal set up already, and construction started on the gallows. Why the people haven’t demanded it. This is shaping up to be the biggest scandal ever.

Blogger Phillip George May 26, 2018 9:43 AM  

Well said Vox.
What is the point of bringing an indictment before an utterly corrupt judge?

Activist Judges/ judicial review is a cancer killing the host.
The host is you.

Blogger Phillip George May 26, 2018 9:51 AM  

Vox, you might find this amusing.
I went to a concert tonight put on by Yale University Consert Band celebrating 100 years of performance largely initiated from returned soldiers of the first world war.
A young student wrote a piece called "Don't be Evil" about the very core of Google's ethical core code of conduct.

ie. Google had a rule "Don't be Evil".

With only one single law to keep what happened in Eden?

Human don't do law well. The West had Jesus. The West thrived. Without Him, there is no West.

True Story

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) May 26, 2018 9:55 AM  

as i pointed out when Stephen Halper came to light; the lack of reaction for US intelligence assets SPYING ON A SITTING PRESIDENT in 1980 demonstrates that the intelligence agencies had already been out of control for quite some time.

think of this in private sector terms.

lets say i'm a VP at GenericCorp. for whatever reason, the CEO and i aren't getting along. so i delegate a security guard to go into the the CEO's office one night and copy all of his files and plant listening devices and bug his phone.

what is going to be the consequence to the security guard ( Halper ) when the CEO finds out what has happened?

what's going to happen to ME ( George Bush in this scenario ) when the CEO finds out what i've done?

am i going to continue my employment in this company? will the CEO or the Board of Directors ever work with me again?

what about that schmuck security guard?



now, imagine that i've done this AND I'M NOT EVEN AN EXECUTIVE AT THE COMPANY ANY MORE. i was a VP for the *previous* CEO and i walked out the door when the new management team came in.

not only was no one fired, no one was even put on trial for spying on Carter. now, i hate Carter, but that's outrageous.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 26, 2018 10:09 AM  

So Trump was supposed to burn up huge amounts of political capital for bump stocks?

So Z-man fell into the old standby "We wuz betrayed, again." routine, but on the other hand at least he did not put out a 52 part youtube series on "educating" the choir on bump stocks.

The Left is begging for a good discrediting, disqualifying and delegitimizing, but the Right is too principled for that.

Blogger Hammerli280 May 26, 2018 10:16 AM  

@7: If Trump is going to tear the head off the conspiracy, he's going to have to strike hard, with a razor-sharp sword. Especially since it looks like the degree of corruption is not the same across the agencies. The FBI is wholly rotten. The CIA less so. NSA? It looks like NSA may have told Trump in the first place.

Blogger Hammerli280 May 26, 2018 10:18 AM  

And if Trump has half the brains he claims, he'll be running the 2020 campaign entirely with encrypted communications. Force the Dems to spend real resources cracking them.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer May 26, 2018 10:27 AM  

The z-man, like a lot of other people who should know better, compares Trump to some imaginary idea of a politician who does not and never will exist. Its the old "good is the enemy of the ideal" thing. Trump may indeed make mistakes, and it is perfectly acceptable to criticize him when he does. But, when doing so, you should remember that the alternatives to Trump were Hillary Friking Clinton and JEB!. Imagine the state of the gun rights debate if either one had been elected.

Blogger Long Live The West May 26, 2018 10:43 AM  

The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey wrote:I don’t understand why we don’t have a military tribunal set up already, and construction started on the gallows. Why the people haven’t demanded it. This is shaping up to be the biggest scandal ever.

If you don't understand why, then you don't understand any of what's going on. People are only just beginning to accept the idea of a global conspiracy. Do you really think Trump could round up tens of thousands of criminals (Including some very big figures, think congressmen) on some claim that they're part of one of the biggest conspiracies of all time?

These things take time.

If you'd thought about it you'd have realized that you answered your own question. Why aren't the trials going? Because the people won't accept it. Why aren't the people demanding it? Because they don't accept it. Simple as that.

Thinking is hard.

Blogger Garuna May 26, 2018 10:51 AM  

Immigration
Trade
Draining the Swamp in the Intelligence Community

Any President who can fix these three will be an all-time great. Trump is the only one even willing to fix them, not to mention we already went through the effort to get him into office. This is why abandoning him now is stupid. If we abandon him and the swamp destroys him, nobody will want to be the next Trump. And we will lose.

It is more important to help Trump win and incentivize others to continue his work after 2024 than it is to purity signal.

Blogger Doug Cranmer May 26, 2018 10:53 AM  

Interesting nothing has been heard from Q, at least on qanon.posts, since May 15'th.

There was a bit of a let down article on American Partisan on May 10'th that I found to be worth reading.

http://www.americanpartisan.org/2018/05/who-was-qanon-and-why-should-you-care/

Don't know. But it's all interesting.

Blogger Ledford Ledford May 26, 2018 11:01 AM  

Save some cut slack also for Jeff Sessions. He has to deal with a complex immigration bureaucracy whose passed down-priority for decades has been non-enforcement. You don't fix that with a few phone calls.

Blogger kurt9 May 26, 2018 11:05 AM  

That the CIA is a rogue agency with regards to foreign ops has been known for a long time. What is surprising is just how deep they have involved themselves in the electoral process. That the FBI has followed the CIA over the edge is also surprising given that many people (like myself) assumed that the FBI were the squares compared to the rogues of the CIA.

This is a dangerous period for Trump and for the country as a whole. If Trump fails, we no longer have representative government as far as I'm concerned.

Blogger Atticus May 26, 2018 11:35 AM  

President wallfacer.

Blogger pyrrhus May 26, 2018 11:39 AM  

What Trump has faced is unprecedented in US history (except perhaps for Andrew Johnson) and we need to understand that all of his moves are colored by that danger...

Blogger Johnny May 26, 2018 11:39 AM  

This is a dangerous period for Trump and for the country as a whole. If Trump fails, we no longer have representative government as far as I'm concerned.

That is about the size of it. Our enemy the state.

Blogger pyrrhus May 26, 2018 11:48 AM  

Obama and the entire leadership of the FBI, CIA and Democratic Party have been engaged in high treason against the elected President, supported by most of the media. MI6, Israel and probably the Royal Family have supported the effort..This is a decisive point in American history, comparable to the late 1850s..Pray for Trump's victory.

Blogger Ledford Ledford May 26, 2018 11:56 AM  

OT: livestream of Tommy Robinson protests:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXRmDO5DYGo&feature=youtu.be

Blogger Wynn Lloyd May 26, 2018 11:58 AM  

Too many sunshine patriots. I wonder if some of the Continental Congress turned against General Washington during the winter at Valley Forge. Historians of the period can employ some fierce rhetoric here, I bet. Wish I knew more about it.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 26, 2018 11:59 AM  

It's ironic that James Comey was fond of accusing his people of lacking a moral compass, when it is now clear the guy is a sociopath incapable of knowing right from wrong.

Ann Coulter nailed this aspect of the Comey persona a while back.

https://www.vdare.com/articles/ann-coulter-one-percent-chance-comey-not-a-self-dramatizing-fruitcake

It's not that he thinks that he's on the side of the angels on this particular issue because [insert rationalization here]. It's that he believes (or at least appears to) that he is always right because he is, simply and self-evidently, virtue and integrity personified. Therefore anyone opposed to him is, by definition, evil. QED.

This kind of self-aggrandizing, sanctimonious hubris is much worse than simple corruption or moral weakness.

@10 Good point. That one pretty much got glossed over in the regular coverage. Not much interest. You'd think the "Democrats" would be eager to to publicize this evidence of nefarious, underhanded deeds perpetrated by the "Republicans" against one of their own...

Blogger Wyndie May 26, 2018 12:00 PM  

The CIA is THE most rotten agency. Does the Kennedy assassination ring a bell?

Blogger Unknown May 26, 2018 12:02 PM  

This is all the more reason to push for the dismantling of many federal agencies and cabinet level posts. The permanent bureaucracy has become a menace...as many of us have suspected for a long time.

Blogger Michael O'Duibhir May 26, 2018 12:12 PM  

@19 "...we no longer have representative government ..."

We're already there.

Blogger dumnonia-watchman May 26, 2018 12:18 PM  

Plenty of reasons to be suspicious of Trump:

https://aeolipera.wordpress.com/2018/05/21/guest-effortpost-why-trump-is-not-trust-worthy/

Hard to imagine that anyone gets to power anywhere in the world who isn't bought and paid for. Hence, Ron Paul: ignored by the media; Trump: President. Echoes of Churchill, who was also bankrolled by the you-know-whos.

Blogger cheddarman May 26, 2018 12:26 PM  

We need to pray that God would break the power of these evil bastards.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 26, 2018 12:36 PM  

dumnonia-watchman wrote:Plenty of reasons to be suspicious of Trump:

https://aeolipera.wordpress.com/2018/05/21/guest-effortpost-why-trump-is-not-trust-worthy/

Hard to imagine that anyone gets to power anywhere in the world who isn't bought and paid for. Hence, Ron Paul: ignored by the media; Trump: President. Echoes of Churchill, who was also bankrolled by the you-know-whos.


I think ``trust Trump'' is a category error. He's what we have. Ride that horse until we get a better one. Cheer him on when he does something good, and look for a far more extreme chad for 2024.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey May 26, 2018 12:36 PM  

Think about the stones it takes to face off against the intel community.

Of course, in addition to the opposition from the intelligence services/ bureaucratic element of the deep state, Trump also faces more open opposition from the kritarchy and its enablers. Good thing Obama left so many judgeships open...

Here's Comey buddy/ leak conduit Benjamin Wittes, a Hoover/ Brookings/ Harvard guy, openly laying out at least one part of the "insurance policy" back in October 2016 on a Brookings-backed blog literally named "Lawfare":

https://www.lawfareblog.com/coalition-all-democratic-forces-part-iii-what-if-trump-wins

Clearly, if you refer to the group involved in your plot by a name that sounds both grandiose and righteous, such as "The Coalition of All Democratic Forces," rather than a paranoid, unnecessarily-mean, "conspiracy theory" sort of term like "deep state," then the whole process must be just "democracy" in action, right? Word magic.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 26, 2018 12:37 PM  

Oh, and primary your incumbent this fall!

Blogger DonReynolds May 26, 2018 12:46 PM  

In the Soviet system, the intense rivalry for power over the state apparatus was between the military, the communist party, and the KGB. Whoever is in control can be seen from who was the apparent (though temporary) dictator. The orthodox church was pushed into the background or suppressed. The media was under the control and direction of the state bureaucrats. And the legislative body, "elected by the people", was irrelevant and little more than a rubber stamp. Yes, the Soviets also had a Constitution and a judiciary.

The only American "improvement" on the Soviet system is the ridiculous idea that ANY ONE of the thousands of Federal judges, regardless of their actual jurisdiction, can overrule and command the military (worldwide), both houses of Congress, and every department of the Federal government, and the White House. Hopefully, they will correct this "improvement" during my lifetime. (In my opinion, ONLY the Supreme Court should be able to overrule the president or Congress. There needs to be some adult supervision in the judiciary.)

Blogger SidVic May 26, 2018 1:02 PM  

I wanted Cruz for pres, but i must admit that it is hard to conceive of him as president now. For good or bad Trump is my guy now.

Blogger OGRE May 26, 2018 1:04 PM  

This is completely OT, but

An article about Jordan Peterson was published in the Toronto Star authored by the professor who "hired" him at the U of Toronto. This is a man who knew JP well and worked with him for a number of years. Now while the author is of the academic quasi-marxist and apparently has a trans daughter(?) so apply grains of salt liberally, but he offers some significant insight into Peterson.

A couple things that stood out: 1) Peterson at one time wanted to buy a church...so that he could establish a church and give sermons in it, 2) "(he) presented conjecture as statements of fact," and 3) JP is a "biological and Darwinian determinist" as well as a "Social Darwinist."

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 26, 2018 1:09 PM  

An analogy that might work for some people is warfighting.

We saw US military personnel piss on dead Taliban, shoot people out of an abundance of caution, etc. How many people back home that said it was awful also think everyone WW2 behaved themselves perfectly?

I guarantee there was some bad ass shit that went down on the island hopping campaign, but you never heard about it. Ernie Pyle sure didn't write able it.

If the NeverTrump fuckheads knew the extent of pure satanic evil that their political heroes have engaged in over the years, they'd be screaming for Trump to behead them all. Either that or have a complete psychotic break with reality.

This is truly a war. And Trump is running across a danger area towards the machine gun nest with a grenade and a 1911.

Blogger Webmaster May 26, 2018 1:14 PM  

Trump *is* the deep state. LOL

Blogger Webmaster May 26, 2018 1:16 PM  

The alt-reich is politically immature so they have no clue

Blogger tuberman May 26, 2018 1:25 PM  

Cleanup on #39 & 40.

Blogger David Hill May 26, 2018 1:31 PM  

Trump is a member of one faction of the elite wagging war against a different faction of the elite just like Roman and Carthage the leadership is recognizing that the can be only one gobal elite. Pray that it's Trump even with his faction worts

Blogger VFM #7634 May 26, 2018 2:16 PM  

When the God-Emperor meme appeared during the 2016 election, I considered it a funny joke. During the past 18 months, it became the reality. Trump really is the God-Emperor. It is incredible to watch.

@3 #7139
I always parse "God-Emperor" as, "our Emperor, by the grace of God", dating back from when Europe was still Christian. But "by the grace of God" takes added meaning nowadays for multiple reasons, considering how we could've been stuck with Hillary.

Trump is the rowboat coming by to save the drowning man who's begging God to save him. The NeverTrumpers are those who insist on getting drowned.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd May 26, 2018 2:17 PM  

Looks like they have no section for comments.
Funny how so many leftist sites claim to be the voice of the masses, yet leave us masses nowhere to state our peace.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 26, 2018 2:30 PM  

You're going to come here of all places and try to promote Aeoli's work?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 26, 2018 2:38 PM  

Tuberman,

Don't be gay.

Blogger Other Josh May 26, 2018 2:48 PM  

When will Trump fire Sessions and get an AG will balls to match his own? He needs a pit bull who will use the sickle of justice to cut down America’s enemies. For me, Sessions has turned out to be one of the biggest disappointments of the Trump presidency. The dude is a bumbling old man.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 26, 2018 2:54 PM  

That's exactly what he wants you to think, Other Josh.

Blogger tublecane May 26, 2018 3:50 PM  

Did anyone see Comey on the Conan O'Brien show? He was getting lobbed softball questions, as you'd expect, along the lines of, "Trump is a meanie-head, isn't he?" But Conan noticed Comey was answering as if he were under oath before a Senate subcommittee, and called him on that .Because, you know, it's a comedy show.

That's exactly how Comey sounded, because he must keep close watch of his every word, lest he slip up. That's his life now.

Blogger Rhology May 26, 2018 4:12 PM  

It isn't difficult to refuse to sign a budget bill that fully funds Planned Parenthood.

Cut Trump less slack.

Blogger tublecane May 26, 2018 4:22 PM  

I don't really understand how lukewarm critics of Trump missed all this. I mean, it is revelatory how widespread the conspiracy against him is, and I've been surprised how shameless some of these people are. But if you couldn't tell in the early days of the Trump presidency that there was a gigantic covert op against him, you weren't paying attention.

Muh Russia alone, the constant leaks, the MSM firestorm (which admittedly had been going on since he announced), acting as if firing his FBI director might spell the doom of his presidency I can't even imagine anyone thinking that all just happened. I knew there was Spy vs. Spy going on behind the scenes.

How could you be surprised top brass might be in on it? Doesn't anyone remember yesterday's news? Clapper lying about the NSA, Brennan lying about spying on the Senate, Comey doing Lynch/Clinton's dirty work for them by letting Hillary off the hook. I remembered.

All that, plus the inherent limitations of the office. It's exceedingly difficult to be a revolutionary president, because though it is a powerful office, presidents don't actually control much directly. They don't really even run the White House. Trump has all the institutions against him. The MSM, obviously. The Permanent Government, especially the judiciary. His own party is against him at least as often as for him. Then there's the rest of the world.

Considering all that, it's a wonder anyone could not think to themselves, "Wait, maybe there's more going on than I know about."

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 26, 2018 4:28 PM  

Rhology,

Trump is cutting PP funding now, using other tools.

His NK gambit would be somewhat hamstrung without the money to make sure the naval assets and other things were taken care of. He's chipping away at the bullshit using the CRA and other tools he has.

Blogger Robert What? May 26, 2018 5:01 PM  

Vox, I agree about cutting Trump lots of slack. But for God's sake, John Bolton? Is this the act of a weak minded Trump, a Trump captive to the Deep State, or a Trump playing five dimensional chess?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 26, 2018 5:10 PM  

It's Bolton being a tool that is used for a specific policy objective, then changed out for another tool that will meet the next policy objective.

Do you like your phillips screwdriver more than your Crescent wrench? Do you use it everywhere?

Blogger Dire Badger May 26, 2018 5:58 PM  

You know what? Screw that "Don't trust Trump" crap. Trump is the first politician I have ever seen that actually seems to be making an effort to keep his campaign promises. It's staggering.... for 40 years I have seen EVERY president lie and fail to even try to keep his word, and that includes the cuck's Saint Reagan.

I trust Trump implicitly. I would Jump off a bridge if he told me to, because I KNOW there would be mud or a net at the bottom, or that he judged my swimming ability well enough.

I still don't like him personally, but I am not suspicious of him in the slightest, I trust his EGO. He has determined that he will be the greatest and most HONEST president of all time, and his ego will allow nothing less. His arrogance will not allow him to fail. That is what I trust.

Blogger Dexter May 26, 2018 5:59 PM  

When I look at photos of Comey, Brennan, and Clapper, I am struck by how strongly they radiate evil.

Blogger Dire Badger May 26, 2018 6:08 PM  

Hell, I feel the same way about Vox... I dislike him intensely, I find his arrogance intolerable and insufferable, and often unwarranted, But I still trust him, and respect him even when he's wrong... because his Ego keeps him on the straight and narrow and he can be trusted. I would hand him my wallet while I went swimming without hesitation, even if His airs make me want to punch him in the face.

I wouldn't trust most conservatives, politicians, or pundits like Shapiro to watch an aisle at wal-mart without a security camera and a sidearm at my spine.

Blogger Dire Badger May 26, 2018 6:17 PM  

Dexter wrote:When I look at photos of Comey, Brennan, and Clapper, I am struck by how strongly they radiate evil.

Sneaky, Leaky, and Freaky

Blogger SciVo May 26, 2018 6:46 PM  

DonReynolds wrote:The only American "improvement" on the Soviet system is the ridiculous idea that ANY ONE of the thousands of Federal judges, regardless of their actual jurisdiction, can overrule and command the military (worldwide), both houses of Congress, and every department of the Federal government, and the White House. Hopefully, they will correct this "improvement" during my lifetime. (In my opinion, ONLY the Supreme Court should be able to overrule the president or Congress. There needs to be some adult supervision in the judiciary.)

/rant on

It is a fact that the SCOTUS is the only part of the Federal judiciary that was established by the Constitution; the rest was established by legislative statue. Regardless of Congress's explicit Constitutional authority to create the judiciary, what you can create you can destroy, and what you can destroy you can control.

Only Congress and the Supreme Court are peers of the Executive; the lower courts are par with mere cabinet members, having their posts created and appointments confirmed by the Legislature. If a Senator called up a lower judge to lean on her to rule the way his constituents would want, and then the President ignored the ruling if he didn't like it, that would be *more* Constitutional than the excessive, slavish deference that Federal judges are currently shown.

If someone claims to be of the right, and claims to understand the American political system, and then claims that it would cause a Constitutional crisis for Congress and the President to act that way, then not only is he wrong about the third one, but I would suspect him of consciously lying about at least one of the other two.

And while there are few sure things in life, if I were a gambling man, I would bet hard that as soon as a Democrat President starts getting overruled by Trump appointees, the American left will suddenly rediscover the written text and historical context of the U.S. Constitution, as if found in a Dead Sea cave. So, the only valid reasons not to do it are purely tactical -- if it would immediately harm Trump's achievement of objectives more than it would help -- not even strategic, let alone legal or moral.

Blogger VD May 26, 2018 7:01 PM  

I dislike him intensely, I find his arrogance intolerable and insufferable, and often unwarranted.

With fans like these.... I'll admit it. I laughed.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 26, 2018 7:11 PM  

Vox and I would probably not get along in person but who cares. He's right and he's smarter than I am, so those are the two main reasons I listen to him.

Blogger James Dixon May 26, 2018 7:40 PM  

> I don’t understand why we don’t have a military tribunal set up already, and construction started on the gallows.

What makes you think we don't? The fact that things aren't public doesn't mean they aren't happening.

> Hell, I feel the same way about Vox... I dislike him intensely, I find his arrogance intolerable and insufferable, and often unwarranted, But I still trust him, and respect him even when he's wrong...

Actually, one of the things I like about Vox is his arrogance. You'd probably have to know me to understand why.

As for his being wrong? Yeah, it happens on occasion. But I've found that when I think Vox may be mistaken it's usually a good idea to double check things.

> Vox and I would probably not get along in person but who cares.

Vox is a jock and I'm a geek. We'd mix like oil and water. But that doesn't mean I can't like an respect him.

Blogger VD May 26, 2018 8:06 PM  

Vox is a jock and I'm a geek. We'd mix like oil and water.

One of the things I think that startles geeks when they grow up is how intensely dislikable the young ones can be. As an exercise, I strongly recommend sitting near a group of geeks, closing your eyes, and listening to them talk.

Then do the same with a group of jocks. It can be rather eye-opening. The jocks are usually laughing, busting on each other, and talking about which girls are hotter. The geeks are usually engaged in a snide, never-ending exercise in one-upsmanship. I find it intolerable.

Blogger James Dixon May 26, 2018 8:14 PM  

> The geeks are usually engaged in a snide, never-ending exercise in one-upsmanship.

You needed a better class of geeks, Vox. :) Mine weren't that bad.

Whereas the jocks you describe match the ones I associated with extremely well.

When your entire 7-12th grade school has less than 200 people, you associate with pretty much everyone, like it or not.

Blogger Damaris Tighe May 26, 2018 8:27 PM  

this president is a soft, civic nationalist and i'm thankful that the nationalist constituency - of asny type - is on the rise.

i dont think there's much 4d chess going on.
trump is a media savant who has good instincts and good judgement in the moment. this winging-it style of intelligence is inconceivable to sam harris, who i note is still utterly confounded by trump and can only suggest that he is ''crazy''.

Blogger Avalanche May 26, 2018 9:42 PM  

@47 "For me, Sessions has turned out to be one of the biggest disappointments of the Trump presidency. The dude is a bumbling old man."

And you think the God Emperor wouldn't NOTICE?! What does our Dark Lord tell us over and over and over again: TRUST Trump!

WAIT to see what he has set-up, because it seems really rare (if it has occurred at all!) that the President -- our president -- does not have a meaning and plan behind every action he takes!

IF Sessions were a disappointment to Trump, think you he'd still BE there?! IF Session were not doing exactly what Trump set him to, in exactly the way and time Trump wanted him to, do you think Trump would not fire him?

Blogger Dire Badger May 26, 2018 9:59 PM  

VD wrote:I dislike him intensely, I find his arrogance intolerable and insufferable, and often unwarranted.

With fans like these.... I'll admit it. I laughed.


Wouldn't you rather be trusted and respected than liked? At least by random strangers or would-be writers?

Blogger James Dixon May 26, 2018 10:15 PM  

> Wouldn't you rather be trusted and respected than liked?

What makes you think Vox cares one way or the other when it comes to 99.9% of the population?

Blogger Dire Badger May 26, 2018 11:15 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> Wouldn't you rather be trusted and respected than liked?

What makes you think Vox cares one way or the other when it comes to 99.9% of the population?


99.9% of the population doesn't read his blog or buy the books he publishes.

My customer's trust concerns me even if they disagree with me, that's why I am always scrupulous in my commissions.

Blogger Dirk Manly May 26, 2018 11:30 PM  

Actually, Trump is already Greater than a mere God Emperor.

God Emperor Hirohito foolishly allowed his Generals and Admirals to try to create the Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.

Greater than God Emperor Trump has already nixed the Trans-Pacific Co-Prosperity Sphere.

Blogger Dave May 26, 2018 11:30 PM  

Wouldn't you rather be trusted and respected than liked? At least by random strangers or would-be writers?

Why would anyone care what random strangers think?

Blogger Dirk Manly May 26, 2018 11:41 PM  

@47

"When will Trump fire Sessions and get an AG will balls to match his own? He needs a pit bull who will use the sickle of justice to cut down America’s enemies. For me, Sessions has turned out to be one of the biggest disappointments of the Trump presidency. The dude is a bumbling old man."

Are you under the impression that

A) Trump doesn't notice when subordinates are underperforming
and
B) That Trump has difficulty firing people?

Becuase only if A and B are true does your meandering scribbles make any sense.

Now...back here in the real world, I Trust that Trump knows EXACTLY what Session is doing, AND finds his progress acceptable, otherwise he would have kicked Sessions to the curb months ago. Like every other person how hasn't (for whatever reason -- from lack of capability to personal/domestic issues) performed up to snuff.

That's how succcessful businessmen run their organizations.

Blogger Dirk Manly May 26, 2018 11:44 PM  

As Q has said, the arrests and public indictments can't start until AFTER the FBI and CIA have been fumigated. This requires public exposure of their wrongdoing, BY A NEUTRAL PARTY (i.e. not Sessions, nor anyone who Sessions controls)... which is why everything depends on the IG report -- which, according to those who have been privy to some of the details, may well lead to firinq squads for people such as Comey and McCabe.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 26, 2018 11:45 PM  

Dire Badger wrote:Wouldn't you rather be trusted and respected than liked? At least by random strangers or would-be writers?
"Let them hate, so long as they fear."

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 26, 2018 11:51 PM  

ZFG what most people think of me.

Blogger VD May 27, 2018 1:53 PM  

Wouldn't you rather be trusted and respected than liked? At least by random strangers or would-be writers?

Certainly. I'm not looking to make friends.

Blogger Dire Badger May 28, 2018 3:50 AM  

Dave wrote:Wouldn't you rather be trusted and respected than liked? At least by random strangers or would-be writers?

Why would anyone care what random strangers think?


Why wouldn't anyone care what random strangers think?
You may not have any interest in them, but they almost certainly have an interest in YOU. Knowing what they think is what lets you know when it's time to stop ignoring them and to start shooting.

Blogger Rhology May 29, 2018 11:16 AM  

@52 re: Planned Parenthood

His NK gambit would be somewhat hamstrung without the money to make sure the naval assets and other things were taken care of.

That's a piss-poor excuse for perpetuating and furthering the curse of God for the blood guilt of dead babies on the nation. It's because Trump is a pragmatist, which means his worldview is flawed and self-destructive on its face.

Blogger BriarRabbit May 30, 2018 12:41 AM  

Yes!!

Blogger BriarRabbit May 30, 2018 1:06 AM  

What was unfathomable yesterday will be routine thought tomorrow.

Blogger BriarRabbit May 30, 2018 1:09 AM  

Until Christianity of olde is mainstream again, this danger exists.

Fluid morality isn't.

Blogger BriarRabbit May 30, 2018 1:32 AM  

Regardless of your view on Peterson, I stopped reaching said article when the author divulged the two aforementioned tidbits.

Nothing a confessed Marxist says holds water.

Blogger BriarRabbit May 30, 2018 1:44 AM  

Well said.

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