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Tuesday, June 12, 2018

And you thought the movies were safe

Now that Brian Bendis has achieved his goal of converging their comics, Marvel is determined to converge the movies as well. Marvel Comics Universe film guru Kevin Feige addresses diversity and Marvel's future plans:
Kevin Feige on diversity: 'It's something that is necessary to continue to tell stories. You don't want to look around the room and see everybody looks like you. It is detrimental to the project'

He adds: There are more women on the track to leadership at Marvel #ProducedBy2018

Audience question: Marvel has had men directors for its past 20 some movies. Can the next 20 feature women to balance?

Kevin Feige: I can't promise you that all 20 future Marvel movies will have women directors, but a lot of them will

On Miss Marvel after Capitan Marvel: We wanted to get Captain Marvel out there first so that there is something for a young Muslim girl to get inspired by

 What next after Avengers IW2?  Kevin Feige says he is working on:
- Continuing stories of characters you're familiar with
- Different incarnations of characters you know
- Introducing completely new characters you never heard of before (unless ur a comics fan)
Smells like... opportunity! And yes, we are rapidly moving towards Alt-Movies. Treatments and scripts are already being prepared, budgets are being debated, possible directors are being consulted, and we'll have a Brainstorm to discuss these developments later this week.

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84 Comments:

Blogger Cetera June 12, 2018 11:48 AM  

I'm working on some stuff for you to eventually publish, Vox. Trying to do my part...

Whenever anyone asks me what I want to be when I grow up/retire, I alwasy say "writer." I figure there's no better time than now to get started, unless it was 10 years ago. So now it is!

Can't wait for Castalia Films!

Blogger Matthew McDaniel June 12, 2018 11:50 AM  

I expect a leading role due to my dashing good looks.

Blogger Looking Glass June 12, 2018 11:51 AM  

Alt-Movie Mogul Vox needs the mohawk back, I think, as a signature style.

Blogger VD June 12, 2018 11:53 AM  

I expect a leading role due to my dashing good looks.

I'd rather see you get your colorist on track again so we can get Issues #2 and #3 out....

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 12, 2018 12:04 PM  

I think we should start planning for the eventual purchase of Marvel and its associated properties. The sooner the better. It is offensive to my nostrils to see Captain America possessed by the spirit of Social Justice. He isn't just another superhero guy. He is named after my country, and is a military officer to boot. He is a hill to die on, so their odious lies can not be spread through his character any more.

Blogger Eli June 12, 2018 12:09 PM  

Audience questions are always insufferable at these types of things. Always with the angle of diversity or "equality." The Marvel franchise wouldn't last 20 straight female directors.

Blogger freddie_mac June 12, 2018 12:13 PM  

You don't want to look around the room and see everybody looks like you.

umm, white people aren't clones so we don't all look alike. But, love his presumption that all white people have *exactly the same experiences* and that only non-white people have different experiences which are worthy of chronicling in film.

Self-hatred much?

Blogger Out of Nod June 12, 2018 12:21 PM  

To quote Q, "These people are stupid." I look forward to the coming media empire!

Blogger Not a lefty June 12, 2018 12:22 PM  

Quantum Mortis movie stylized like blade runner? Where do I point my wallet?!?!

Make Movies Great Again!

Blogger Ostar June 12, 2018 12:28 PM  

They're going with the Muslima Miss Marvel?!?
Well, I predict after the female Captain Marvel disappoints and empties the reservoir of audience good will, any Miss Marvel movie will become Marvel's Solo.

Blogger Theophilus Chilton June 12, 2018 12:29 PM  

You don't want to look around the room and see everybody looks like you.

Actually, yes, yes I do.

Blogger Peaceful Poster June 12, 2018 12:32 PM  

Actually, yes, yes I do.

#Metoo

Looking forward to seeing who you cast as Rebel.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 12, 2018 12:34 PM  

I hope some Muslim chops his head off for the lulz.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira June 12, 2018 12:41 PM  

Just when you thought it couldn't get any gayer...

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams June 12, 2018 12:43 PM  

Captain Muslim: Rabombathon

The heart warming story of an oppressed woman Muslim who uses her super powers to destroy an evil patriarchal Christian church. She frees all from the tyranny of salvation!

Blogger Chris Jackson June 12, 2018 12:46 PM  

I expect the movies are headed toward convergence, and in many ways, you can see the signs in what's been produced so far. There being more subtle about it than Soy Wars.

Blogger RC June 12, 2018 12:47 PM  

Great leaders build momentum and then it serves their purposes.

Blogger Nameless One June 12, 2018 12:50 PM  

Make a historical epic called "The Hammer" about Charles Martel and the Battle of Tours. It's such a great story I'm shocked nobody has made a movie about it. (Actually I'm not shocked).

Blogger James Dixon June 12, 2018 12:55 PM  

> And yes, we are rapidly moving towards Alt-Movies.

Wow. I didn't expect that for at least another five years. Things are moving fast.

> I think we should start planning for the eventual purchase of Marvel and its associated properties.

Only if you buy them out of bankruptcy. The left will see them destroyed before they'll let us get our hands on them.

Blogger L' Aristokrato June 12, 2018 12:57 PM  

Ostar wrote:They're going with the Muslima Miss Marvel?!?

Well, I predict after the female Captain Marvel disappoints and empties the reservoir of audience good will, any Miss Marvel movie will become Marvel's Solo.


Captain Marvel might succeed, given its ties with the current Avengers story-line there is interest in the movie. Of course, it turns out to be terrible with critical and audience receptions alike...
I think interest in Superhero movies may start to dwindle after the plot Marvel started back in 2008 finally concludes. People will have their closure and they might move on to something else.

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 12, 2018 12:57 PM  

Of course this is just about the most predictable thing ever. Yay progress.

Ugh

Blogger Cecil Henry June 12, 2018 12:58 PM  

You don't want to look around the room and see that everyone looks like you??

Sure you do, that's exactly what you want most of the time. Its called community.

Or China.

Blogger Quilp June 12, 2018 12:59 PM  

Wow. How does one get on a list to get an invite?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 12, 2018 1:00 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> And yes, we are rapidly moving towards Alt-Movies.

Wow. I didn't expect that for at least another five years. Things are moving fast.

> I think we should start planning for the eventual purchase of Marvel and its associated properties.

Only if you buy them out of bankruptcy. The left will see them destroyed before they'll let us get our hands on them.


Even better.

Blogger Duke Norfolk June 12, 2018 1:01 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:It is offensive to my nostrils to see Captain America possessed by the spirit of Social Justice.

Hear, hear.
Although I'm frankly surprised they didn't go straight for the ultimate killshot and make him a tranny muzzie.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 12, 2018 1:08 PM  

@7 - What he meant was "you don't want to look around the room and realize everyone is smarter and more talented than you."

Blogger Warunicorn June 12, 2018 1:12 PM  

I'm just amazed at how much the mass psychosis has gripped roughly half this country of ours. Zero to crazy in just a few short years.

I look forward to watching these false gods they've built all come crashing spectacularly down. Stone-cold reality is a bitch.

Blogger Matthew McDaniel June 12, 2018 1:15 PM  

*tfw Vox spanks you publicly in the blog comments.

A and I don’t seem to understand each other. I’m gonna get it squared away tonight.

Blogger mike mike June 12, 2018 1:15 PM  

Probably should order another 25 copies of Alt-Hero #1.

Blogger SDaly June 12, 2018 1:27 PM  

Was this interview before or after it became apparent that Soylo would barely make $200 million domestically and not reach $400 globally? Disney may not want this cash cow to follow Soy Wars into the loss column.

Blogger Matthew McDaniel June 12, 2018 1:29 PM  

Has there been a Kickstarter film before? A significant one I mean.

Blogger pyrrhus June 12, 2018 1:30 PM  

Why not make a movie of Throne of Bones, suitably scripted for the audience?

Blogger Nostromo June 12, 2018 1:35 PM  

If they cast Lindsey Pelas as Powergirl they can have all my money

Blogger Johnny June 12, 2018 1:37 PM  

As a franchise it would appear that Star Wars is finished. I would imagine Marvel is the same. Two movies in a row that aren't much good, and then the next one would have to stand on its own merits. No coattails in the name any more.

Blogger VD June 12, 2018 1:38 PM  

A and I don’t seem to understand each other. I’m gonna get it squared away tonight.

Good. I suggest talking, email takes too long and is too easily misunderstood.

Why not make a movie of Throne of Bones, suitably scripted for the audience?

Look at the budget for A Game of Thrones. That's why.

Blogger Nostromo June 12, 2018 1:52 PM  

SJW = Horde of locust. Do the locust care that there's nothing left to eat?

Blogger tuberman June 12, 2018 1:57 PM  

Tried to watch "Logan" a few days ago, and it was so bad, I could not watch it even for free. Totally absurd, and it's not near as bad as the new stuff.

Black ranchers with horses got to be too much, on top of the main characters being not anyone to much identify with, and the usual untrained GRRRL power in a small mutant girl. It's his daughter and he does not care, for over half the movie, so they are starting to deconstruct Wolverine, and the Professor is just sad.

Already, nothing to see there. Only 3/5 SJW points, but too much.

Blogger Lovekraft June 12, 2018 2:02 PM  

SJW comics is obsessed with the mythical evil white male, where statistics just don't bear out his status as villain.

Meanwhile, inner-city black thugs, jihadis, open-borders globalists, gun-grabbers, secret cabals, bureaucratic tyrants ALL deserve to be placed front and center as the villain.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 12, 2018 2:12 PM  

Saw Thor Ragnarok.

That franchise isn't coming back, and I expect all the rest to be hot on its heels.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 12, 2018 2:15 PM  

If Ragnarok is considered subtle, SW must be like a face full of alien wing wong.

Blogger Elijah June 12, 2018 2:19 PM  

let us know how to invest in alt hero movies. we can fight the good fight and make money!!!

Blogger Matthew McDaniel June 12, 2018 2:20 PM  

I enjoyed ragnarok, if nothing more that I find Goldblum amusing.

Blogger R Webfoot June 12, 2018 2:26 PM  

As much as I would enjoy "The Missionaries" as a movie, I'm sure Antifa would start burning down movie theaters.

Blogger Steve June 12, 2018 2:32 PM  

We wanted to get Captain Marvel out there first so that there is something for a young Muslim girl to get inspired by

I hear the action figure comes with a detachable clitoris.

Blogger dh June 12, 2018 2:37 PM  

The problem with movies unlike books, games, etc is that you can't iterate them very effectively. It's a one time, release once, pay now, and then be done, model. Not doing it very well from the get go can be very damaging long-term.

The Marvel Cinematic Universe may look like a 1.0 product from the outside but the truth is that Disney did lots of market research and even did some alpha testing. The Fantastic four movies, the Sony Spider-man movies, and the X-men movies all served to set the stage for the powerhouse that the MCU has become 20 movies in.

Blogger haus frau June 12, 2018 2:40 PM  

This is a wonderful development. I long to see a big box office movie come out starring a lesbian, muslima, super hero of color and her merry band of rainbow gendered side kicks. I cant imagine hollywood putting out anything more entertaining in the MAGA america if today.

Blogger Bastion Harm June 12, 2018 2:44 PM  

I would love to see some revenge-type movies (a la Death Wish) that show just how feral blacks can be by having a plot centering on a particularly heinous, real-life black-on-white crime. Think of the Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom, for example. Mold that story into a revenge plot. And not only show the utter savagery of the way those feral nogs tortured, raped, then murdered Channon and Christopher, also work into the plot the ways in which shitlibs continue to make excuses and defend this feral behavior.

I think a lot of people would like to see such a movie.

Actually, I think a lot of whites NEED to see such a movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

Blogger Bastion Harm June 12, 2018 2:46 PM  

^ because (((Hollywood))) would most certainly make such a movie if the races of the criminals and victims were reversed.

Blogger The Gray Man June 12, 2018 2:48 PM  

Can someone link me to the instructions to subscribe to Darkstreams and Brainstorms et ?

Blogger The Gray Man June 12, 2018 2:50 PM  

Sorry if it is linked anywhere. I don't remember and I'm in the road for work so I only see vox on my phone for a few days

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 12, 2018 2:52 PM  

Fiege is already on the record as stating he wants to introduce the Muslim version of Ms. Marvel, Kamala Khan.

Blogger Looking Glass June 12, 2018 3:12 PM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:Fiege is already on the record as stating he wants to introduce the Muslim version of Ms. Marvel, Kamala Khan.

He says that, but he might also want to keep his head attached to his body.

Blogger Pax_Romana June 12, 2018 3:12 PM  

Excellent to hear that scripts are moving forward! I'll tell my agent to look out for casting calls.

Blogger Peter Gent June 12, 2018 3:25 PM  

Steve wrote:We wanted to get Captain Marvel out there first so that there is something for a young Muslim girl to get inspired by

I hear the action figure comes with a detachable clitoris.

Thread win!!!

Blogger Latigo3 June 12, 2018 3:34 PM  

As time goes on, I find that I am viewing less and less of the crap that Hollywood puts out. When I saw Thor Ragnarok I was so pissed that the Valkyrie chick was a black chick. I tell people, when I go visit Denmark, Sweden or Norway, I expect to see blonde haired blue eyed people. Well, what can you expect from Disney. I have not seen the last two offerings from the Star Wars franchise, but everywhere I turn it is in your face. From the movies to video games. I know this is not exactly topic, but I just saw the video for the new Halo, I hope they have steered away from the direction they were going. I didn't buy the last game.

Blogger WillBest June 12, 2018 3:45 PM  

What he meant was "you don't want to look around the room and realize everyone is smarter and more talented than you."

Considering Feige has lead Marvel to generate ~17 billion in global box office and at least that much in DVD and toy sales, I doubt he will find himself in very many rooms where he is the dumbest or least talented.

I suspect what has happened, because Feige has deflected prog nonsense in the past, is that he had a vision or a story he wanted to tell and he is done telling it (or will when IW2 comes out). From a principles standpoint, he should step down and let Iger appoint somebody else to destroy Marvel. But he probably wants the paycheck and maybe the power to tell another story if he thinks one up.

Blogger Wolfman at Large June 12, 2018 3:47 PM  

Looking forward to the Hitler in Hell mini-series.

Blogger Double E June 12, 2018 3:48 PM  

"You don't want to look around the room and see everybody looks like you."

Except that is EXACTLY what everybody else wants, and is trying to accomplish. Everybody but cucked westerners.

Blogger Sub June 12, 2018 3:52 PM  

OT: Bad day for pizza lovers

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/more-2300-suspected-online-child-sex-offenders-arrested-during-operation-broken-heart

Blogger James Dixon June 12, 2018 4:10 PM  

A ZeroHedge writer realizes why the alt-right is inevitable: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-12/dear-white-men-0

Blogger Chris Mallory June 12, 2018 4:15 PM  

Matthew McDaniel wrote:Has there been a Kickstarter film before? A significant one I mean.

"31" by Rob Zombie was crowdfunded using another funding platform than Kickstarter. He raised $1.5 million for the project.

Veronica Mars and Super Troopers 2 were both crowdfunded with over $4 million each.

Blogger Dire Badger June 12, 2018 4:19 PM  

Steve wrote:We wanted to get Captain Marvel out there first so that there is something for a young Muslim girl to get inspired by

I hear the action figure comes with a detachable clitoris.


I just figured they want a way to move millions of Unsold 'Jawa' figures.

Blogger Dire Badger June 12, 2018 4:21 PM  

Latigo3 wrote:As time goes on, I find that I am viewing less and less of the crap that Hollywood puts out. When I saw Thor Ragnarok I was so pissed that the Valkyrie chick was a black chick. I tell people, when I go visit Denmark, Sweden or Norway, I expect to see blonde haired blue eyed people. Well, what can you expect from Disney. I have not seen the last two offerings from the Star Wars franchise, but everywhere I turn it is in your face. From the movies to video games. I know this is not exactly topic, but I just saw the video for the new Halo, I hope they have steered away from the direction they were going. I didn't buy the last game.

What did NOT piss my off was that she was obviously a Lesbian. Valkyries being man-hating dykes actually fits well with the Lore.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas June 12, 2018 4:25 PM  

Somewhat related, the media is trying to hype up the "record breaking" all-female Ocean's 8.

Yet their opening weekend numbers are almost identical to Ghostbusters, which was considered a massive flop, and it's sold the fewest tickets of any movie in the franchise.

Blogger SciVo June 12, 2018 4:37 PM  

R Webfoot wrote:As much as I would enjoy "The Missionaries" as a movie, I'm sure Antifa would start burning down movie theaters.

From what I recall of the excerpts, I suspect it would be best animated.

Blogger Warunicorn June 12, 2018 5:14 PM  

Latigo3 wrote:As time goes on, I find that I am viewing less and less of the crap that Hollywood puts out. When I saw Thor Ragnarok I was so pissed that the Valkyrie chick was a black chick. I tell people, when I go visit Denmark, Sweden or Norway, I expect to see blonde haired blue eyed people. Well, what can you expect from Disney. I have not seen the last two offerings from the Star Wars franchise, but everywhere I turn it is in your face. From the movies to video games. I know this is not exactly topic, but I just saw the video for the new Halo, I hope they have steered away from the direction they were going. I didn't buy the last game.

Did you see "The Last of Us, Part 2 - The Lesbianing" (last part added by me) gameplay trailer? I already knew Ellie was a lesbian but they were so in your face about it, plus grrrrl power where she gets right back up after being thrown by a guy five times her size.

And they had the nerve to complain about Bayonetta and how she flaunts her sexuality...

Blogger Troushers June 12, 2018 5:20 PM  

The good thing about Muslim women superheroes is that they're already half way there with the costumes.

I wonder if Bendis really wants to open that mile radius can of worms re: what is inspiring young Muslim girls (beheading).

Finally, I want to see some ethnically and culturally linked superpowers to really showcase Islam's contribution to our current civilisation, but I realised they've had heroes with invisibility or who undertook indiscriminate slaughter. I can only think of some sort of clitorectomy based power?

Blogger Pierre Truc June 12, 2018 5:43 PM  

Star Wars is not alone. For example Mass Effect... death by SJW Andromeda. Lots of franchises could be up for grabs in the future...

Blogger The Observer June 12, 2018 5:46 PM  

And yes, we are rapidly moving towards Alt-Movies. Treatments and scripts are already being prepared, budgets are being debated, possible directors are being consulted, and we'll have a Brainstorm to discuss these developments later this week.


And to think the Dark Lord estimated it would be five years before alt-movies could be on the plate. Moving fast, indeed.

Blogger Pale Male June 12, 2018 5:49 PM  

From what I recall of the excerpts, I suspect it would be best animated.
I will be reading the whole thing soon, and I hope to get back to you on that.

Blogger Cloom Glue June 12, 2018 6:09 PM  

I think an SJW-romantic-comedy could be of a SJW female who gets into multiple serious jams on her quest for social justice, compromising virtue and common sense along the way: A beta orbiter man accompanies her, coaching and rescuing her from SJW blunders. At the end, he gives up and finds his sanity and self-respect with the better woman who was with them all along. It is a love-triangle, with an anti-SJW twist.

But what is the setting? Maybe it could be three university graduates looking for an angle to earn an income, a three way partnership, but are dominated by an alpha dunderhead obtuse SJW female diverting the resources to SJW strategies and they have to learn to get away from her as every idea fails, like a Theranos fraud, but funny because the beta-orbiter hero male engineer studiously invents anti-gravity, flexible super-conductors, specialized fluids, and other engineering marvels to stay ahead of the SJW female's public lies. Her faith in SJW diversity inclusiveness solutions all sequentially fail, nearly uncovering her multiple frauds as he rescues the situation with his multiple inventions to save her from arrest to win her affection. What a dope. But he learns and marries the other woman, who was better, recognized his talent, encouraged him, loved his family, petted the family dog, and was not ever a diabolical SJW.

Blogger tublecane June 12, 2018 6:45 PM  

@7- Odd thing is that sounds just like one of the (very few) attempted justifications of Dieversity: people want to look around and see people with whom they identify.

But of course that doesn't if you're a white male.

Blogger nswhorse June 12, 2018 7:06 PM  

Seems like they're planning on converging Transformers as well. Not sure how you can make a story about warring alien robot tribes based on a toy line carry an SJW message, but I have no doubt they'll manage it.

Who ever thought there'd come a time Michael Bay's direction would look good by contrast?

Blogger Wynn Lloyd June 12, 2018 7:42 PM  

They ruined Dragon Age big time. Still pissed about that one.

Blogger Daniel June 12, 2018 9:34 PM  

Savage

Blogger hightecrebel June 12, 2018 9:42 PM  

Castalia already has at least one script that I'd love to see get the movie/mini-series treatment - The Stars Came Back by Rolf Nelson. Heck, I'd like to see Heretics of St Possenti or the Ames Archives get a screen treatment as well

Blogger Brick Hardslab June 12, 2018 9:48 PM  

I'd love to see the super luminary books made into movies.

Blogger OneWingedShark June 12, 2018 10:53 PM  

VD wrote:Smells like... opportunity! And yes, we are rapidly moving towards Alt-Movies. Treatments and scripts are already being prepared, budgets are being debated, possible directors are being consulted, and we'll have a Brainstorm to discuss these developments later this week.
Several questions:
(1) Can I get in on this brainstorm?
(2) Are these scripts/treatments already finished; or are we talking about doing them?
(3) I'm a writer myself [though unpublished], is it possible for me to help?

Blogger OneWingedShark June 12, 2018 10:58 PM  

Ostar wrote:Well, I predict after the female Captain Marvel disappoints and empties the reservoir of audience good will, any Miss Marvel movie will become Marvel's Solo.
I think it was The Last Jedi that emptied all goodwill from the SW fans; not Solo. The Force Awakens was BAD, essentially a complete rip-off of A New Hope... bad fanfiction given Hollywood high-budget production. The Force Awakens, though? That was hate-mail, or rather a burning bag of dung, sent to the fans; IMO that's what really killed off audience goodwill.

Blogger Harambe June 13, 2018 3:21 AM  

I do a mean South African accent.

Blogger Bradford Walker June 13, 2018 3:45 AM  

Banking remains the chokepoint. You're going to see the SJWs retreat to that line as more forks around their points of convergence take off and begin their growth phase. They know that they can win if they can control finance, and that means Alt-Banking is needed and needed now.

That's right, a fork-and-replace of the banking system. Once we see a few promising forks murdered by financial treachery, this won't be gainsayed anymore. I'm not a banker, so I can't do more than point out this obvious need, or I'd be doing it; I'm busy putting a novel together.

Blogger VD June 13, 2018 4:06 AM  

(1) Can I get in on this brainstorm?
(2) Are these scripts/treatments already finished; or are we talking about doing them?
(3) I'm a writer myself [though unpublished], is it possible for me to help?


No, but we'll have an open one next week. Some treatments are done. We have the writers; the main way people MAY be able to help on this one is through providing the initial seed money. We can probably increase whatever we raise by 5x for the final budget.

Blogger James Dixon June 13, 2018 5:44 AM  

> ...the main way people MAY be able to help on this one is through providing the initial seed money.

Let us know when and how.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 13, 2018 4:41 PM  

You don't want to look around the room and see everybody looks like you.
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No we don't want movies with relatable characters.

I hope Thanos wins.

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