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Friday, June 29, 2018

The path to dictatorship

Well, we can certainly hope that is what Qanon is laying the groundwork for:
Virtually everyone following politics has heard of the #Qanon story. Religiously followed by a growing mass of disciples and vehemently assaulted by a variety of left wing propagandists ranging from Vice to Newsweek, the validity of its claims have sparked a uniquely passionate debate on both sides.  The ones championing its teaching as unquestionable truth range from imageboard dwelling millennials to a considerable number of boomers.  Be it truly the broadcast of insider intel or merely the flagship conspiracy of our time, it’s certainly an exciting read that provides quality entertainment for the end times.

But those faithfully trusting in Q to lead the overthrow of the evil “deep state cabal” and restore American democracy to the people may be missing a much darker purpose for the Qanon posts.  Used as a highly efficient propaganda tool, Q’s drops may actually be aiding an attempt to dismantle the judiciary altogether.  Should it succeed in pushing this distrust across the public through the oft-cited “Great Awakening, this narrative may actually serve to weaponize Americans into removing the only barrier left to toppling democracy and clearing the way for an Emperor to ascend to the throne. That is, of course, assuming that a coup d’etat has not already taken place.
Forget democracy. Forget that worthless piece of paper that has been defined and redefined out of relevance. The God-Emperor has already promised us a Big Beautiful Wall and Space Marines. Let us hope that in his grand munificence, he will see fit to also grant us Inquisition and Crusade!

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Blogger James Dixon June 29, 2018 11:03 AM  

> ...this narrative may actually serve to weaponize Americans into removing the only barrier left to toppling democracy and clearing the way for an Emperor to ascend to the throne.

Given a choice between an Emperor who loves and supports my people and a democracy that hates them and wants them dead, the choice seems obvious.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook June 29, 2018 11:09 AM  

Exterminatus soon brothers praise the God Emperor

Blogger Crew June 29, 2018 11:11 AM  

I would be happy to see the God Emperor Trump as our dictator! I would even vote for it!

Blogger Nate June 29, 2018 11:18 AM  

" Be it truly the broadcast of insider intel or merely the flagship conspiracy of our time, it’s certainly an exciting read that provides quality entertainment for the end times."

ok.. I've been critical of Q but everything in this statement is completely accurate.

Blogger James Dixon June 29, 2018 11:19 AM  

I should also note that by all appearances Trump is in fact a direct successor of Cincinnatus and Washington. He's doing his duty, nothing more. If his duty requires the overthrow of the existing structure so that it can be replaced with a better one, that's what he'll do. But he's not doing it for power. He already had all the power he could want.

Blogger veryfunnyminion June 29, 2018 11:20 AM  

So long as salic law applies to the succession, we seem good for a couple of generations.

Blogger Brett baker June 29, 2018 11:21 AM  

"St. Augustino, please let the last body clear the helicopter as well as the first."

Blogger NO GOOGLES June 29, 2018 11:21 AM  

"My armor is Contempt. My shield is Disgust. My sword is Hatred. In the Emperor's name, let none survive."

-Trump 2024 bumper sticker

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums June 29, 2018 11:24 AM  

I always thought "Lord Inquisitor" has a nice ring to it.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch June 29, 2018 11:25 AM  

"Forget democracy. Forget that worthless piece of paper that has been defined and redefined out of relevance."

I've had this opinion for a while now.

I really do think this era of Freemasonic republics will come to an end. Unfortunately, I think we're looking at a future of corrupt tyrants, rather than a future of godly monarchs, as I would have.

Blogger Ceasar June 29, 2018 11:28 AM  

Whether Q is a Larp or real....he/she/they have done a great job of making people think about how those in powerful positions may use corruption to increase their power, take opponents out and secure their seats. Either way, I think it is a great exercise in critical thinking and deconstructing the actions of pyscho/sociopaths that we have elected to office.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown June 29, 2018 11:29 AM  

Replace "Mutant" with "SJW" and this is right on-the-nose.

"To be Unclean
- That is the mark of the Mutant
To be Impure
- That is the mark of the Mutant
To be Abhorred
- That is the mark of the Mutant
To be Reviled
- That is the mark of the Mutant
To be Hunted
-That is the mark of the Mutant
To be Purged
- That is the fate of the Mutant
To be Cleansed
- For that is the fate of all Mutants

Blogger Looking Glass June 29, 2018 11:33 AM  

Where do we sign up to purge heretics?

Blogger James Dixon June 29, 2018 11:35 AM  

> Unfortunately, I think we're looking at a future of corrupt tyrants, rather than a future of godly monarchs, as I would have.

The odds are ever thus, yes. We can only hope that Bismark was correct when he said “God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.” He's given us Trump, which is a very good sign that his favor continues.

Blogger Anno Ruse June 29, 2018 11:37 AM  

If you're going to establish a dynasty, it helps to already have a worthy successor. Don Jr. would be a worthy successor to the throne. He's comparatively young, smart, an outdoors and hunting enthusiast, he has five beautiful white children, he understands internet culture, and he's immune to most criticism because they already wasted the same attacks on his father.

Blogger wreckage June 29, 2018 11:38 AM  

How is undermining the Judiciary - the only part of the US government answerable to no-one - antithetical to democracy?

Robes, hierarchies, unassailable social position, ruling via questionable interpretations of rules they don't understand and didn't write? It's an atheist, neoliberal theocracy. Anything would be preferable, and among "anything" we find populist democracy, and its holy champion, Saint Donald.

Blogger Looking Glass June 29, 2018 11:40 AM  

Brett baker wrote:"St. Augustino, please let the last body clear the helicopter as well as the first."

So many modern ills can be solved with two things: Helicopters & Tom Petty music. A little Free Fallin' goes a long ways.

Blogger tuberman June 29, 2018 11:42 AM  

Seeing as how I always figured one of the major purposes of the judiciary set up by the two Bush Crime Family members, Bill Clinton, and the O'Muslim, were put in place, to take children away from parents, and expedite child trafficking, I want to see all of these jailed. Many were put in so child trafficking would reach the UK levels and beyond.

Blogger Matthew June 29, 2018 11:51 AM  

James Dixon wrote:I should also note that by all appearances Trump is in fact a direct successor of Cincinnatus and Washington. He's doing his duty, nothing more. If his duty requires the overthrow of the existing structure so that it can be replaced with a better one, that's what he'll do. But he's not doing it for power. He already had all the power he could want.

Cincinnatus had only the one acre. And I hope Trump doesn't return to his plow.

Blogger James Dixon June 29, 2018 11:53 AM  

> So many modern ills can be solved with two things: Helicopters & Tom Petty music. A little Free Fallin' goes a long ways.

Rebels seems appropriate somehow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jBi8XfKzk0

Blogger Kettle June 29, 2018 11:54 AM  

Some juicy drops are coming out as of late. Even if Q isnt "official" he's not just some 8 chan aspie LARPing about.

Blogger pyrrhus June 29, 2018 11:55 AM  

Democracy is a bad joke in America....But in any event the Judiciary was never intended to supervise the Executive branch. However, only Congress can get rid of the lower Article 3 courts, and only a Constitutional amendment can get rid of SCOTUS..so it won't happen. What has been happening is the appointment of government stooges as Article 3 judges, which is worse.

Blogger Kettle June 29, 2018 11:55 AM  

I suspect Emperor Trump would be widely supported by heritage Americans at this point.

Blogger insight June 29, 2018 12:02 PM  

"There are three main pillars which support any nation. These pillars are common religion, common ethnicity and common language. If you remove any of those pillars eventually that nation will fall..."

https://biblicalgenderroles.com/2018/04/16/is-biblicalgenderroles-com-advocating-for-overthrowing-the-government/

Blogger pdwalker June 29, 2018 12:02 PM  

I believe VD is exaggerating, but there’s a part of me that doesn’t want it to be an exaggeration.

Blogger Thucydides June 29, 2018 12:05 PM  

We have already devolved to the level of having corrupt tyrants rule over us, so might as well make it official. Just like Rome had a few good Emperors, so to the Imperial United States might have a run of good Emperors as well.

Blogger pyrrhus June 29, 2018 12:09 PM  

Trump as Pinochet II....may it rain commie scum...

Blogger Rick June 29, 2018 12:10 PM  

If I understand what an autist is, then there should be just as many of them working on debunking Q. Are there? Are there any?
I've seen plenty of people (on Twitter) claiming "Q's been debunked so many times now, lol," without ever providing proof.
They just say, "look it up", if you ask them.
That's odd, isn't it?
Not really.

Blogger cmbaileytstc June 29, 2018 12:11 PM  

The panicky Left is helping us will this into manifest reality IMO. If they hadn’t gone off the deep end Trump would simply have been a better Reagan. By spinning everything that happens as one of their poorly scripted nightmares and behaving badly they may force him into Emperorship. An appointment in Samara type of situation.

Blogger Looking Glass June 29, 2018 12:11 PM  

Making America Great Again will require making representatives actually responsible for their actions. The nature of the current Court System prevents that. Because of Marbury vs Madison, SCOTUS is the final say in the Constitutional Order. This is why they cause so many problems, as they act as Priests interpreting the gods.

Blogger pyrrhus June 29, 2018 12:11 PM  

Seems far fetched, but these are fast times...43% of Germans now want Merkel to resign.

Blogger Martin June 29, 2018 12:13 PM  

In my book, this only lends more credence to Q. Consider the normal media response to "conspiracy theory": Ridicule and dismissal. Not, "OMG, this conspiracy theory is going to overturn the entire government." If this refrain gets picked up by the mainstreamers, we will know for sure that Q is the real deal.

Anonymous Anonymous June 29, 2018 12:19 PM  

But according to boomercucks, overthrowing Muh Constitution is considered “leftist”....

Blogger pyrrhus June 29, 2018 12:19 PM  

Q also said early on that there would need to be deception and misinformation, but he was right on target on some important things, like NK.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch June 29, 2018 12:21 PM  

@26 "We have already devolved to the level of having corrupt tyrants rule over us..."

No. We have an oligarchy, the evil version of an aristocracy, whose biological equal is the cancer cell.

Blogger Jack Amok June 29, 2018 12:25 PM  

Given a choice between an Emperor who loves and supports my people and a democracy that hates them and wants them dead, the choice seems obvious.

You'd think the Left would understand, given how little use they have for democracy when the vote doesn't go their way. As a reminder, at the moment their hero is Robert Mueller, an almost completely unaccountable prosecutor justifying his investigation based on falsified reports filed by spies infiltrating the challenger's campaign.

Blogger Patrick Kelly June 29, 2018 12:25 PM  

There is an older conspiracy theory thread that has military intelligence, more specifically Naval, being at war with the various 3 letter agencies, starting with the CIA, since the aftermath of WWII.

Food for thought and grounds for further research. ;-)

Blogger allyn71 June 29, 2018 12:26 PM  

Democracy -> Oligarchy -> Dictatorship Think I read that somewhere before.

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein June 29, 2018 12:26 PM  

Tis the Dawning of The Age of W.Lindsay Wheeler...

Blogger Carlos Carrasco June 29, 2018 12:28 PM  

The Wall! Space Marines! And coming soon, the Founding of the Co-Dominion!

Blogger Jeff aka Orville June 29, 2018 12:29 PM  

Ave, Imperator.

Blogger Lazarus June 29, 2018 12:32 PM  

Military takeover is part of the Six phases of the “Continuum of Military Operations

to lead us to :

Phase 5: Enable Civil Authority. Legitimate civil authorities are enabled in their efforts to provide essential services to the populace. These activities include required coordination activities by U.S. military forces with multinational, interagency, and non-governmental organizations while promoting a favorable attitude among the populace toward U.S. and host nation objectives.

A coup by legally established precedent in order to clear out the bad actors and restore power to a non-corrupted civil authority

Blogger Mark Stoval June 29, 2018 12:38 PM  

In the book "Democracy: The God that Failed" the author makes the point that democracy is the worst form of government. The founders themselves knew that.

You sometimes see a fellow yell that we have a "representative republic" and not a democracy. After over 200 years of the SC rewriting the constitution to suit the whims of the day, we have perhaps the worst democracy in the history of mankind.

What to do now? We need to break this USA apart into various ethnic groups (real nations or tribes) and let each one choose their own way.

Even if you could eject every non-white person from this land, it would still be a war between asshat "liberals" and the right wing. The left is delusional and crazy. There is no way to have a democracy with them voting.

Oh, and women voting has not turned out so great either. (how to blame that on boomers??)

Blogger Robert Pinkerton June 29, 2018 12:43 PM  

Robert Silverberg's Hawksbill Station predicted our present time-frame as the "... never-ending depression," resulting in the downfall of the Constitutional order in the United States, replaced by a Chancellor and a Council of Syndics. Chancellor Trump, anyone?

Blogger tuberman June 29, 2018 12:43 PM  

This will spread, exponentially from here out. Q floats in parades, tons of Q shirts at rallies, and the MSM mentioning Q in full attack mode. Memes of course too. Popcorn time.

MSM will attack supporters more often, and again even physically. More arrests of the Lefty peons will happen, with less breaks given to them, and judge shopping slowly put down.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume June 29, 2018 12:44 PM  

@37

My father (was a CPO) served on a PBR in Vietnam. He worked alongside both SEALs and ONI for some time.

One of his old buddies in ONI (my Godfather) has been telling us about the rift between Naval Intelligence and the other agencies for decades. My father thinks "Jack" is paranoid. But some of the things he has said over the years sure do mesh with what Q has said.

I'm inclined to think it wasn't just God on Trump's side getting him elected against Madam Satan; I think Military Intelligence played a heavy hand too.

Blogger tuberman June 29, 2018 12:50 PM  

44. Robert Pinkerton

Considering that we've been ruled by some of the worst pervs in humanity for at least decades, with their influence going back much further, do you think we have much to lose? Perspective again, as in where have we and the rest of Western Civilization been at least since the

Blogger tuberman June 29, 2018 12:52 PM  

47. tuberman

...Bush Crime Papa came to the Presidency.

Blogger JACIII June 29, 2018 1:09 PM  

Do not forget the Marine Honor guard closing ranks around Trump at the inauguration. There are more players than we have seen in the open.

Blogger Cloom Glue June 29, 2018 1:09 PM  

That writer is on both sides, as discussed in the SJW movie-writers post; no clear script.

He mocks "deep state cabal", "bad actors" with quotes as if neither exists, and then finishes with wanting liberal woes of fifty years overthrown.

Our hero QAnon cannot be perfect and the villains cannot be too bad; SJW101: don't judge.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume June 29, 2018 1:10 PM  

@49

I don't remember that. Was it unusual?

Blogger Patrick Kelly June 29, 2018 1:10 PM  

PEPE/Q 2024 !!

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 29, 2018 1:13 PM  

@43 Mark Stoval
In the book "Democracy: The God that Failed" the author makes the point that democracy is the worst form of government.

What was Hoppe's analogy? Something like "A monarch owns the country: a president rents it."

Pretty much. And you can predict how much concern each will have for its long term welfare based on that.

Blogger AaMcavoy June 29, 2018 1:17 PM  

JACIII wrote:Do not forget the Marine Honor guard closing ranks around Trump at the inauguration. There are more players than we have seen in the open.

Was it this?

Blogger Looking Glass June 29, 2018 1:19 PM  

@51 Emmett Fitz-Hume

60s to 120s from the time Trump starts speaking during his inaugural address, there are representatives from every branch of the military standing behind him. They show up, stand there, then turn around & move away. The message was missed by almost everyone, and it seems to have been missed by the people that it was actually directed at.

Trump has been with the Military faction of the Elites for decades. Trump isn't an Outsider. He's a Power Elite from a different faction.

Blogger Longtime Lurker June 29, 2018 1:21 PM  

Q is the Eric Blair of our age.

Blogger ZhukovG June 29, 2018 1:22 PM  

If you think you might have to arrest half the Congress and Judiciary; being friends with the military is a good thing.

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Imperator Trump!

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume June 29, 2018 1:27 PM  

Thanks guys. I had never seen that or heard about it before.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 29, 2018 1:28 PM  

They say Heaven's Gates are guarded by United States Marines. We have that going for us too, which is nice.

Blogger centexguy June 29, 2018 1:29 PM  

I actually can't wait until Trump's second term. Not having to worry about re-election I see him going full-blown God-Emperer!

Blogger Nate June 29, 2018 1:29 PM  

Q mentioning freemasons... It's meta conspiracy at this point

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 29, 2018 1:36 PM  

Is the author of the opinion that he’s not living in a dictatorship?

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas June 29, 2018 1:44 PM  

How many heretics do we have to burn before the ice caps melt and New York, DC, Florida, and California are underwater? Is there a computer model for that?

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella June 29, 2018 1:46 PM  

So now someone panics that the judiciary will be removed? Right at the moment that conservative judges are being seated? Sounds like wish-fulfillment for the left, not a real prediction. "If we can't have a lefty judiciary, no one gets a say in government at all!!!"

If Trump were half the dictator that all the hormone disrupted heaving bosoms of w/m/xirs fantasize about, we would have already had right wing death squads taking out antifa, half of congress, any dual citizens, most immigrants. And yet, here they are, safe as houses, whining in daylight about being oppressed.

Criminal illegal aliens are being forcibly deported. Less criminal illegal aliens are deporting themselves- or not- the southern swarm sure seems to think they won't be ground into cement binder-

We don't have rapists hanging from lightposts along each highway. We don't have people hunting MS-13 for their skins- I mean, really, they already come pre-inked for binding evil spell-books. No one is taking away single women from their apartments in the middle of the night for crimes against civil finances -$150,00k net negative cannot continue. Gays keep having public parades, rather than hiding.

No one has taken insulin off the public formulary, nor HIV drugs, nor hepatitis drugs: the only aggressive public health restrictions have been against white men, age 45 and older: Rahm Emanuel wanted heart surgery to be off the table for men at age 45- that is, one year after gay men die, on average. White men usually have children going off to college, at about the point they need to worry about their aging bodies.

I really wish (((our esteemed visitors))) would quit panicking about governing documents. It's something we are good at cooking up- we've got 50 state constitutions, we've had at least four regional governing documents, we loan out people to help other nations write up their constitutions, and some states get excited and re-wrote their docs after the civil war. It's something we are good at, and they are still writing fan fic about how a rock with ten rules is from an interdimensional multi-gender unknowable being subservient to any of their rabbis. Nuts.

Blogger Zwiebel June 29, 2018 1:51 PM  

Democracy seems to favour psychopaths and narcissists (am I being redundant?).

Sometimes I think a monarchy wouldn't be so bad. But then I look at the Windsors...

Blogger AaMcavoy June 29, 2018 1:51 PM  

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Blogger AaMcavoy June 29, 2018 1:52 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:@51 Emmett Fitz-Hume

60s to 120s from the time Trump starts speaking during his inaugural address, there are representatives from every branch of the military standing behind him. They show up, stand there, then turn around & move away. The message was missed by almost everyone, and it seems to have been missed by the people that it was actually directed at.

Trump has been with the Military faction of the Elites for decades. Trump isn't an Outsider. He's a Power Elite from a different faction.


Link for the lazy.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 29, 2018 1:55 PM  

Pretty interesting picture m

Blogger Matthew June 29, 2018 2:01 PM  

Masons are OBVIOUSLY involved in the evil, Nate. ... Just not the part of the organization you're allowed to be in. That's for rubes.

Blogger Cetera June 29, 2018 2:12 PM  

AaMcavoy wrote:Looking Glass wrote:@51 Emmett Fitz-Hume

60s to 120s from the time Trump starts speaking during his inaugural address, there are representatives from every branch of the military standing behind him. They show up, stand there, then turn around & move away. The message was missed by almost everyone, and it seems to have been missed by the people that it was actually directed at.

Trump has been with the Military faction of the Elites for decades. Trump isn't an Outsider. He's a Power Elite from a different faction.


Link for the lazy.


Even more important was what he said during that time the military came and stood behind him:

"Today's ceremony however has very special meaning. Today we are not just transfering power from one administration to another, or from one party to another, but we are transfering power from Washington, D.C., and giving it back to you, the people."

Blogger DonReynolds June 29, 2018 2:12 PM  

"weaponize Americans into removing the only barrier left to toppling democracy and clearing the way for an Emperor to ascend to the throne."

There is that "democracy" word again!
Where the Devil did anyone get the impression that the USA is a democracy, or had ever been a democracy? Hey, if there was a democracy, they could elect an Emperor if they wanted to. Not possible.

Well, I will say it again. There is no democracy...not in either of the three branches of government.

The Executive Branch only elects a pair of people every four years by the Electoral College. No, it is not democratic.

Lincoln was elected with 39.8 percent of the vote in 1860 and did not even appear on the ballot in 15 states. In the only Southern state, where he was on the ballot....he received 1 percent of the vote. Yes, Virginia.

John Quincy Adams was elected with 30.9 percent of the popular vote. Andrew Jackson lost the same election with 41.4 percent of the vote.

Legislative branch tries to be more of a democracy, but still falls far short. Before 1962, "one man, one vote" had not been decreed by the Supreme Court. And since Baker v Carr, there is still wide variation in the population of Congressional districts. In the US Senate there is no pretense of proportional representation. Every state gets two Senators, no matter how many or how few people live in the state. (In fact, the 51 votes necessary to pass bills and treaties and make appointments in the Senate could be controlled by the 26 least populous states, totaling only 16 percent of the US population!) No democracy here either.

There is zero democracy in the Judiciary. None of the Federal judges are elected and there is no voter approval or disapproval required on any of their decisions.

Blogger Jew613 June 29, 2018 2:31 PM  

Just try this on for size, His Majesty, Donald of House Trump, the First of his name, builder of walls, defender of borders, expeller of invaders. Has a nice ring to it I think.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz June 29, 2018 2:39 PM  

The last paragraph of the linked article is : Q may instead be a sign of the empire to come, and a powerful weapon in crafting its long-overdue reign.

I got news for them! America is already an empire and it's already being run by the people who never leave. Those high level bureaucrats and "civil servants" do the real work of running the empire. The judicial system is by far the worst part of the imperial government. NOBODY ever thought that a group of 9 unelected permanent judges would be able to have the last and final say on everything. That there rulings become precedents which become the law of the land forever is just the icing on the cake!

Blogger El Rojo June 29, 2018 2:41 PM  

Mark Stoval wrote:...

What to do now? We need to break this USA apart into various ethnic groups (real nations or tribes) and let each one choose their own way.

...)


I disagree. If/when things come down to bullets and brass tacks, it will be for all the marbles.

Because the poor lefties will always try to move to the more productive areas and subvert them. We are already have big problems with our border on the south - and people here think it is a good idea to just give them California and get an even larger more indefensible border? LOLZ.

Even in the "red" states you have tens of millions of Lefties in the cities - how are you going to partition that? You can't. At a minimum you are talking about displacing and moving tens of millions of people... They are not gonna just meekly let that happen.

When the lefties finally go hot (They will fire the first shots - it is their nature) it will be for the whole shebang. Because the other side wants to do what commies do and kill/imprison/oppress us all. There will be no live and let live. In for a penny in for a pound, so you might as well take it all back.

It will be nasty and ugly, and I hope it will not be in my lifetime.











Blogger Kettle June 29, 2018 2:44 PM  

@74 El Rojo

It will be...complex. Some areas will be left V right, others ethnic V ethnic, in some places both will occur at the same time.
At the core of it all it will be tribal with the exact nature and make up of the tribes shifting with time and geography.

Blogger Kettle June 29, 2018 2:48 PM  

What may be very messy about it is that given the nature of US tech, mil and infrastructure, foreign interests will be virtually forced to get involved even if covertly, in order to protect their long term interests.

Blogger Crew June 29, 2018 2:54 PM  

Even in the "red" states you have tens of millions of Lefties in the cities - how are you going to partition that? You can't. At a minimum you are talking about displacing and moving tens of millions of people... They are not gonna just meekly let that happen.

Blockade the exits (freeways) and cut off power. They will die.

However, I agree. It's all or nothing. WWG1WGA.

Blogger Ingot9455 June 29, 2018 2:59 PM  

Stick with 'Wall-Might' from My Hero Magademia.

Blogger Patrick Kelly June 29, 2018 3:08 PM  

"I hope it will not be in my lifetime."

I have changed my mind about that. If it is in my children or grandchildren's lifetimes I'd prefer to die an honorable death fighting for them.

Blogger El Rojo June 29, 2018 3:23 PM  

Patrick Kelly wrote:"I hope it will not be in my lifetime."

I have changed my mind about that. If it is in my children or grandchildren's lifetimes I'd prefer to die an honorable death fighting for them.



That is a point worthy of deep consideration.

I do not have children. But I want children.

I believe you are right - I would much rather take such a thing on myself and spare them the worst of it, if possible.

Blogger Chris Ritchie June 29, 2018 3:33 PM  

@43, @53 - In the book "Democracy: The God that Failed" the author makes the point that democracy is the worst form of government. The founders themselves knew that.

I was thinking about that book too as I read the post. What other blog comment section would reference that book? Love this place.

But DonReynolds is right. We don't have a democracy. I guess we have a Republic, but's it's so covered over with duct tape and chicken wire that it barely resembles one.

Blogger Chesapean June 29, 2018 3:39 PM  

RE: "Let us hope that in his grand munificence, he will see fit to also grant us Inquisition and Crusade!"

We should start thinking about the geography we intend to occupy. We'll need ports, farmland, fossil fuels and defense positions.

I recommend Chesapeake Bay and Appalachia at a minimum.

Blogger tublecane June 29, 2018 3:52 PM  

"the only barrier left to toppling democracy"

Going after the highly undemocratic judicial system is a threat to democracy. As is going after the unelected Deep State.

This poorly-written quotation is a fine distillation of a corrupted mind. They can make you think up is down and down up by calling one thing "democracy" and the other "authoritarianism." For what does it even mean to them that democracy is toppling? Merely that they don't like the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED president executing his legitimate power.

Or, they know where the progressive power centers are, and they go into Alamo mode the moment they catch the hint of a whiff of threat.

Universities, NGOs-foundations, the Money Power, the Permanent Government/Deep State. These are their mechanisms of authority. (The judiciary I consider a part of the Permanent Government, despite the formality of elections.) The other side will reee like they've never reee'd before in their defense.

Blogger Matamoros June 29, 2018 4:00 PM  

Why do we need the judiciary and law? St. Thomas More answered very well.

Roper: So now you'd give the Devil benefit of law!

More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you — where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast — man's laws, not God's — and if you cut them down — and you're just the man to do it — d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.

Blogger Kettle June 29, 2018 4:10 PM  

If this is where we are only 2 years into trumps first term, I have to wonder where we will be at this point in his second term.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 29, 2018 4:10 PM  

My suspicion is that Q is Don Jr.

Blogger Ingot9455 June 29, 2018 4:14 PM  

John Adams: "I must study Politicks and War that my sons may have liberty to study Mathematicks and Philosophy. My sons ought to study Mathematicks and Philosophy, Geography, natural History, Naval Architecture, navigation, Commerce and Agriculture, in order to give their Children a right to study Painting, Poetry, Musick, Architecture, Statuary, Tapestry and Porcelaine."

Blogger James Dixon June 29, 2018 4:17 PM  

> It will be nasty and ugly, and I hope it will not be in my lifetime.

If you're under 40 it almost certainly will be.

> Why do we need the judiciary and law? St. Thomas More answered very well.

And how do you apply that principle when the Judiciary no longer serves the law?

Blogger Dirk Manly June 29, 2018 4:22 PM  

@37

"There is an older conspiracy theory thread that has military intelligence, more specifically Naval, being at war with the various 3 letter agencies, starting with the CIA, since the aftermath of WWII.

Food for thought and grounds for further research. ;-)"

Before the WW2, ONI was always the center of worldwide intelligence colllection and analysis -- for the simple reason that the Navy has always been the organization with the primary responsibility of overseas force projection.

It is for this reason that when we disband the USAF, we roll the long-range assets into the Navy.
--
USAF -- A fraternity pretending to be a military service.

Fraternity -- a drinking club pretending to be a community benevolence organization.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 29, 2018 4:27 PM  

@38

"Democracy -> Oligarchy -> Dictatorship"

Honest form serving all / Corrupt form

Autocracy / Tyranny (unfairly benefiting the tyrant)

Aristocracy/Oligarchy (unfairly benefiting the rich)

Republic / Democracy (unfairly benefiting the poor)

Blogger Dirk Manly June 29, 2018 4:32 PM  

@42

However, we are currently only stage 3

Phase 1: Deter the Enemy. This phase focuses on deterring specific opponents by demonstrating the capability and resolve to apply force in pursuit of U.S. interests. These actions will likely build upon Phase 0 activities and may include a show of force or initiatives that would facilitate deployment, employment, and sustainment of additional forces within the region.

Phase 2: Seize the Initiative. Hostilities commence during this phase. Combat power is applied to delay, impede, halt, or dislodge the adversary as well as to gain access to theater infrastructure and enhance friendly freedom of action. Concurrently, assistance is provided to relieve conditions that precipitated the crisis in order to promote stability.

Phase 3: Dominate the Enemy. The focus during this phase is on the exploitation, pursuit, and destruction of the enemy in order to break the opponent’s will for organized resistance. Stability operations will also be conducted as needed to facilitate transition to the next phase.


Phase 4: Stabilize the Environment.
Phase 5: Enable Civil Authority.


Q has repeatedly warned in recent weeks that things are going to get dangerous. That hasn't happened yet.

Blogger tublecane June 29, 2018 4:37 PM  

@16- "Democracy" means anything of which they approve.

When democratic results disagree with them, they call it "politics" (as in mere politics, dirty politics, corrupt politics, etc.), or jump immediately to Literally Hitler.

Blogger Brett baker June 29, 2018 4:39 PM  

Historically, tyrants tended to favor the middling orders over the other aristocrats. Thus aristocrats writing that the king was bad because he didn't favor them.

Blogger tublecane June 29, 2018 4:44 PM  

@33- Tell them it was overthrown long ago. If they start in with Muh Lincoln, shoot them in the back of the head.

Blogger Brett baker June 29, 2018 4:53 PM  

Glory to rot in three generations.

Blogger Brett baker June 29, 2018 4:54 PM  

Glory to rot in three generations.

Blogger Brett baker June 29, 2018 4:54 PM  

Historically, tyrants tended to favor the middling orders over the other aristocrats. Thus aristocrats writing that the king was bad because he didn't favor them.

Blogger tublecane June 29, 2018 5:00 PM  

@70- Remember how the MSM spontaneously [suppressed giggles] described that ceremony as "dark" and ominous across the board. And I had no idea what they meant, except that they don't like Trump.

Blogger VD June 29, 2018 5:17 PM  

Why do we need the judiciary and law? St. Thomas More answered very well.

His answer is entirely irrelevant today. Everything has already been cut down. You either fight the devil or die.

Anonymous Anonymous June 29, 2018 5:27 PM  

Vox: Have you seem the new book from Bronze Age Pervert?

Blogger Pozzy Shelly June 29, 2018 5:47 PM  

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Blogger Pozzy Shelly June 29, 2018 5:51 PM  

My take on democrazy has been essentially that of Moldbug - http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/search?q=democracy "Democracy means that popular opinion controls the State; intellectuals guide popular opinion; ergo, intellectuals guide the State."

I would actually add that not all intellectuals guide the State at all. In practice whoever has the most money buys the mass media and hires *certain* intellectuals to be intellectual whores for them. Democracy is really just a convoluted way of arriving at oligarchy.

Blogger tuberman June 29, 2018 6:00 PM  

Targeting the Therapists of the shooters will be next phase. They move from place to place and are assigned to another FF shooter after each shooting happens.

Blogger tuberman June 29, 2018 6:04 PM  

102. Pozzy Shelly

No, MSM is run by infiltrated three letter agency !00%, and no amount of money will get you access, unless you support their Narrative. But MPAI, so keep guessing.

Blogger DonReynolds June 29, 2018 6:53 PM  

Ingot9455 wrote:John Adams: "I must study Politicks and War that my sons may have liberty to study Mathematicks and Philosophy. My sons ought to study Mathematicks and Philosophy, Geography, natural History, Naval Architecture, navigation, Commerce and Agriculture, in order to give their Children a right to study Painting, Poetry, Musick, Architecture, Statuary, Tapestry and Porcelaine."

Thomas Jefferson said something very similar (great minds think alike)....

"I am a Farmer,
So my son can be a Merchant,
And his son can be a Poet."

Blogger tublecane June 29, 2018 8:05 PM  

@99- I never understood the Man for All Seasons argument, anyway. If the devil turns upon you, how is the law any protection? God's law, yes, but man's? The devil does not abideth such things.

Evil men, that's another matter.

Blogger tublecane June 29, 2018 8:10 PM  

@102- Ah, but who determines the way people with money think? Preexisting culture, as manipulated by intellectuals. If they should happen to be mavericks who somehow avoided influence, their children won't be, and they'll have to work with people who are.

The Ford and Carnegie foundations didn't maintain the philosophies of their founders. They went over to university-trained intellectuals and politician, members of the Deep State, and secret society folk.

Basically the same Managerial State that runs the Permanent Government runs the corporations, runs the foundations and NGOs. They all think the same way, almost all. Running the gamut from commies to libertarians.

Blogger Jack June 29, 2018 8:33 PM  

@105

"I am a farmer, so my son can be a merchant, and his son can be a poet, and then his son can be an SJW, and then his son can be a gay critical theorist, and then my bloodline shall be no more."

Jefferson may have erred in thinking merchants superior to farmers. I rather doubt he thought so, actually, since his ideal was a nation of yeoman farmers.

Blogger SciVo June 29, 2018 8:58 PM  

Should it succeed in pushing this distrust across the public through the oft-cited “Great Awakening, this narrative may actually serve to weaponize Americans into removing the only barrier left to toppling democracy and clearing the way for an Emperor to ascend to the throne.

Here we see again how the SocJus cult has Orwellian jargon. Just as they redefine "authoritarian" to mean "white dad success culture" (instead of their own "patron/serf structure"), they redefine "democracy" to mean their own "rule of the credentialed class" (instead of "rule of the People").

Actual democracy has already been toppled by the left, and their Imperial judges and administrators (and especially "administrative judges") are the authoritarians that did it.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 29, 2018 9:11 PM  

@55

They arrived late. They came in 2 columns, and stood at attention while the Marine Captain went to figure out where they were supposed to sit. He then directed each column where to go, they about faced, and filed to their seats.

You can see several of the white service caps on the left-hand side of the platform (it appears that those on the right-hand side removed their caps for some reason, despite being outside... perhaps out of courtesy for those behind them?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRBsJNdK1t0&feature=youtu.be&t=10m10s

Blogger Dirk Manly June 29, 2018 9:25 PM  

@108

"Jefferson may have erred in thinking merchants superior to farmers. I rather doubt he thought so, actually, since his ideal was a nation of yeoman farmers."

One thing is for sure: Jefferson predicted that the greatest threat to the nation would never be a foreign power, but instead, bankers.

It appears he has been shown to be correct.

Blogger Robert Pinkerton June 29, 2018 9:32 PM  

@97:Historically, tyrants tended to favor the middling orders over the other aristocrats. Thus aristocrats writing that the king was bad because he didn't favor them.

Both ends against the middle. When the Western working class did not act the role cast for it by Marxist "theology, the Marxists went over to the lumpenproletariat as their preferred horse to ride to power.

Your remark reminded me of a political discussion in high school Latin class, fifty-eight years ago. The teacher, a classicist who happened to know how to be an engaging lecturer, said that a "tyrant" was an illegal dictator (populist) in a constitutional order which provided for legal ("aristocrat") dictatorship. Part of the platform on which Mr. Trump stood for the Presidency, was Tribune of the Plebs.

Blogger tuberman June 29, 2018 10:00 PM  

" Part of the platform on which Mr. Trump stood for the Presidency, was Tribune of the Plebs."

Except in the USA only traitors use the terms plebs or Deplorable for USA citizens, as this country was founded on getting rid of such terms for honest working citizens, who are not to be preferred over the parasite class (and, no, I am not talking capitalists here, but I am talking about a class who fixes everything so that capitalism cannot work). I'm talking about a class of people who sit in on government meetings informing them of how the markets will be manipulated in the favor of their own, with tons of money laundering, and illegal crap going on behind the cover of people in on it. Think Uranium 1, and so forth. Think Haiti.

Blogger tuberman June 29, 2018 10:20 PM  

107. tublecane

Although, you are sort of or kind of correct, over the last two decades at least, all the media is pretty much daily controlled by the C_A, which literally gives "talking points" e-mailed at 4 AM every morning. I heard about "Mockingbird" media control about four years ago, long before Q came around, but the Q team confirmed it all with details back in October and November of 2017.

There was enough info out on various alt-Right sites, and some others to be convincing of their control by 2014, and possible 2013.

Blogger Assyrian Nationalist June 29, 2018 10:47 PM  

"Innocence proves nothing"
- Inquisition Court Slogan, 2024

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 29, 2018 10:49 PM  

@81 Chris Ritchie

But DonReynolds is right. We don't have a democracy. I guess we have a Republic...

@71
We are supposed to be a republic. What we actually have is an empire which uses the rhetoric of democracy, and is run via a combination of financial control, media/ 3 letter control, and kritarchy. As @73 noted.

@104 tuberman

No, MSM is run by infiltrated three letter agency !00%

But Operation Mockingbird was just a "conspiracy theory." Or they got bored with the idea, and gave it up. Or something. Intelligence agencies are involved in gathering intelligence, and sometimes covert ops overseas, but never in crafting or disseminating a narrative for domestic consumption. Or so we are informed by... the narrative.

@61 Or would meta conspiracy be if the Freemasons mentioned Q?

Blogger Dire Badger June 29, 2018 11:24 PM  

The Irony of our government system is that a Jury was supposed to automatically disregard precedent.
That lasted all of about 5 minutes.

Blogger tuberman June 29, 2018 11:32 PM  

116. Francis Parker Yockey

You understand? My pedantic mode is also ironic, sometimes! Or, I laugh at myself, as I know I'm not informing anyone of anything, usually. OMG, I'm getting as incoherent as Pinkerton, and that takes work. But, I'm on it.

Blogger Paul M June 30, 2018 12:54 AM  

> Let us hope that in his grand munificence, he will see fit to also grant us Inquisition and Crusade!

I doubt that Trump actually believes in a god.

Blogger tublecane June 30, 2018 3:34 AM  

@Robert Pinkerton- "Tyrant" ultimately derives from the Greek, meaning ruler unlimited by law or custom. Really, it meant a non-traditiona ruler. Like if you were to usurp a crown that's been on a line of descent for centuries.

It so happens that a handy route to untraditional rule is through the weight of numbers. The left makes use of lower orders like that, in order to centralize power all the time. Trump is doing some of that, but he's competing against people who literally want to make as much of the world American as possible. That's WAY more outside our nation's traditions than what Trump is up to.

Tyrant had come to mean absolute rule in an oppressive manner, but the out of line with tradition sense remains.

Trump is hated by the ruling class not because he's defying presidential custom, but because he's interrupting their super-secret schemes.

Blogger James Dixon June 30, 2018 10:28 AM  

> That lasted all of about 5 minutes.

A jury can rule however it wants. All the judge can do is kick off individual jurors or declare a mistrial. That much of their function remains.

> I doubt that Trump actually believes in a god.

Doubt all you want. It doesn't make your right: https://www.christianpost.com/news/donald-trump-on-faith-i-am-christian-sunday-church-person-49797/

Blogger Dire Badger July 01, 2018 6:33 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> That lasted all of about 5 minutes.

A jury can rule however it wants. All the judge can do is kick off individual jurors or declare a mistrial. That much of their function remains.


Yep, and any juror that tells OTHER jurors that they don't have to follow precedent and that their job is to judge the law as much as the individual gets kicked off and jailed for 30 days for 'contempt of court'.

In practice, it's much like those 'sovereign individual' types. Sure, they MAY be right, but that doesn't really matter when there are 800 million people and tens of thousands of gun-toting bullies with badges who don't really care or are convinced you are wrong.

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