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Saturday, June 09, 2018

What was your first clue, Sherlock?

Or should one say, Shylock:
George Soros recently lamented the rise of President Trump and anti-establishment parties across the globe, saying “everything that could go wrong, has gone wrong.”

Soros made the comment in an interview with The Washington Post published Saturday. He also said that he did not expect Trump’s election, saying, “Apparently, I was living in my own bubble.”
And yet, things haven't even begun to go seriously wrong for George Soros and company yet. George Soros is the poster child for the historical Jew who blindly devotes himself to amassing wealth and influence in order to tikkun the olam without ever stopping to think for two seconds about the obvious consequences of his actions or how the majority population that surrounds him on every side feels about them. They didn't keep hold of Babylon. They didn't keep hold of Judea. They didn't keep hold of Greece. They didn't keep hold of Andalusia. They didn't keep hold of Russia. They didn't keep hold of Germany. They didn't keep hold of Poland. They won't keep hold of Britain or the USA much longer either, and for much the same reasons they previously lost control.

Sooner or later, a Tiberius, a Stalin, a Hitler, a Ferdinand, or a Cyrus will emerge. That is why Soros fears and hates the God-Emperor Trump. He sees in Trump a similar historic figure.

Soros is living in his own evil bubble. What he has accomplished is to lay the groundwork for a second Holocaust that will be broader in scope, more intentional, and more thorough than the first one. That's why Soros opponents like Prime Minister Netanyahu are openly telling Jews to return to Jerusalem this year rather than a next year that never seems to come. Netanyahu is smart and he is looking out for his people. He knows what is likely to happen once the global economic meltdown begins.

Now, obviously all Jews are not culpable for the horrific damage that their co-ethno-religionists have wrought throughout the modern West. That's not even possible. But that is also irrelevant. Just as no army has ever concerned itself with the question of whether the individual enemy soldier has fired so much as a single bullet their way before opening fire on him, no one anywhere in the world is going to concern themselves whether a particular Jew ran the Federal Reserve or agitated for the 1965 Immigration Act or tried to overturn Brexit before concluding that they simply don't want Jews interfering with their God-given right to self-government, trying to take their First Amendment rights away, controlling their money supply, opening their borders, or healing their societies anymore.

Whether you think this is a good thing or a bad thing doesn't matter, this is what is going to happen, sooner or later. The Bible predicts it. History chronicles and anticipates it. Hell, freaking Game Theory dictates it. So, deal with the reality of the situation, don't bother appealing to specious "it can't happen here because magic dirt" theories.

I am not at all impressed by so-called "Jewish intelligence". I am reliably informed that Jews have an average IQ of 115. (It's not true, it's actually more like 103, but let's play along anyhow.) Congratu-fucking-lations. That's more than two standard deviations below mine. To put this delta in perspective, recall that moderate mental retardation is defined as being three standard deviations below normal.

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83 Comments:

Blogger Mark Stoval June 09, 2018 5:40 PM  

"The Bible predicts it. History predicts it. Hell, freaking Game Theory predicts it. So, deal with it."

The problem is that most men don't deal with things they don't want to see. They would rather believe the "official story" from the government than listen to experts who question the narrative.

"A man sees what he wants to see, And disregards the rest." - Paul Simon

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 09, 2018 5:46 PM  

Soros' last words after conviction will be something consistently clueless like "but I'm a good guy!" "I was just trying to help!"

Blogger Dirk Manly June 09, 2018 5:53 PM  

Nah... he didn't put the UK's economy into a tailspin in the 70's by accident when he shorted the pound. Even if it was an accident, every time thereafter, he had to know the consequences of taking out a massive short position would do (especially to nations with even smaller economies).

This man thrives on the suffering of others, and had done so since he was a child. For a Jewish teenager to go around assisting the Nazis in rounding up the Jews in his neighborhood (so that he could gather all the remaining valuables out of their houses) requieres a special form of heartlessness.

I'm really surprised the Mossad never put a bullet through his head.

Blogger Lyon June 09, 2018 5:53 PM  

"...without ever stopping to think for two seconds about the obvious consequences of his actions."

Therein lies their hubris betrayed.

Blogger Salt June 09, 2018 5:58 PM  

What he has accomplished is to lay the groundwork for a second Holocaust that will be broader in scope, more intentional, and more thorough than the first one.

He enjoyed his time with the Nazis so much he wants to recreate it.

Blogger pyrrhus June 09, 2018 6:02 PM  

What he has accomplished is to lay the groundwork for a second Holocaust that will be broader in scope, more intentional, and more thorough than the first one.

He enjoyed his time with the Nazis so much he wants to recreate it.

Yes, I don't see the problem for Soros...Good times!

Blogger R Webfoot June 09, 2018 6:06 PM  

If he was already a Marxist, he could have been practicing Marx's answer to the Jewish Question by helping get rid of Jews who weren't Communist.

Blogger Jew613 June 09, 2018 6:07 PM  

Soros is an evil old man who just wants to watch the world burn, including his own people and the state of Israel. While his evil will survive him his successors are not as capable as him. May the Living G-d send him to Hell soon.

Vox, maybe your right that the average Jewish IQ isn't high. I've been hearing Gregory Cochran is willing to debate you on the issue. Regardless he has some pretty interesting ideas, definitely a race realist. Greg Cochran Interview on Luke Ford Show

Blogger JACIII June 09, 2018 6:17 PM  

Hopefully that whoreson's lament is due to his enemies proactively raining negative outcomes down on his vampiric ass.

Blogger Cecil Henry June 09, 2018 6:19 PM  

A little serious self-reflection by Jews would be a refreshing change. But not likely to happen based on the past 2000 years.

Making society better..... Nope.

Making it better for Jews by attacking, exploiting and destroying others.

THAT's where the opposition comes from.

https://i.imgur.com/w30yaAs.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qQOXDAs.jpg

Blogger Dirk Manly June 09, 2018 6:28 PM  

@10

2000?

Look all the way back to Genesis and Exodus. The tribes have cultivated a culture of sucking up to government leaders at the expense of the governed for a long, LONG time.

Look at Joseph's solution for the Pharoah's dreams:
During the 7 years of good harvests -- overtax the people and set all the excess grain aside in storehouses.
During the following 7 years of famine -- extort every bit of wealth (livestock, land) out of the populace before returning their grain to them. Joseph is lauded for making the Pharoah more powerful (because now his subjects have nothing).

The next thing we see in the Bible is the Hebrews have been entirely enslaved by the Egyptians.

Gee, I wonder why.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) June 09, 2018 6:30 PM  

Vox has an IQ of 150-ish.

subtract 35 to get

the Jewish ((( IQ ))) of 115.

subtract 35 to get

the estimated IQ ( 80 ) of a Border Collie.

sounds about right.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 09, 2018 6:35 PM  

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Blogger Dirk Manly June 09, 2018 6:36 PM  

We see a similar story regarding Daniel in Babylon... resulting in Shadrach, Meshack and Abednego being thrown into a furnace. Of course, being Babylon, who knows what sort of demonic activities the general populace were involved in. But the principle is still there -- Daniel manipulates the king ("here's how you can become more powerful in your nation") as a way of waging war against the king's subjects.
We never see a Hebrew or Jew in a host-nation government making the King or government stronger by strengthening the nation as a whole -- only through weakening the populace via some sort of vampire-like policies, in which the government sucks the wealth and life out of the people, and gives them nothing in return.

Blogger Lovekraft June 09, 2018 6:49 PM  

Hope someone can clear this up for me. I wonder how much Soros's finances are tied into national debt interest. Am I essentially working to pay taxes to support his schemes?

Blogger Dirk Manly June 09, 2018 6:50 PM  

I wouldn't be surprised.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 09, 2018 6:51 PM  

What would happen if the entire Rothschild family tree were wiped out?

Blogger Robert What? June 09, 2018 6:52 PM  

Jews are successful not because they are more intelligent but because they are more conniving.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 09, 2018 6:54 PM  

Indeed.

Anonymous Anonymous June 09, 2018 6:56 PM  

I do think Jews are stupid. I am reliably informed that they have an average IQ of 115. (It's not true, but let's play along anyhow.) Congratu-fucking-lations. That's more than two standard deviations below mine. To put this delta in perspective, recall that a literally retarded individual is a bit more than three standard deviations below normal.
(Actually, that would be 2 STDV; retardation officially is IQ 70 and below.)

Since you introduced this topic, I'm going to share a little tidbit I stumbled across recently and one of the implications.

Full-sibling IQ comparisons show that the male IQ distribution is wider by about 0.1 standard deviation than the female:

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.569.52&rep=rep1&type=pdf

If the average STDV is 15 points, that means it's roughly 15.75 points for white males and 14.25 points for white females (Africans have a narrower distribution, STDV roughly 12-13).

This has an ENORMOUS impact out at the tails.  Assuming a normal distribution, you can plug the numbers into the NORMDIST function in your spreadsheet to see the difference.  For instance, to see how many wind up at 50 points off the mean, you'd do this:

male = NORMDIST( 50; 100; 15.75)
female = NORMDIST( 50; 100; 14.25)

The male fraction at 30 points off the mean is about 50% greater than the female.  This disparity grows rapidly; at 35 points it's almost 2:1, it's 2.2:1 at 40 points, almost 3:1 at 45 points and at 50 points off mean the male fraction is more than 30 times as large as the female fraction.  In short, Larry Summers was absolutely 100% right.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 09, 2018 6:57 PM  

"I'm really surprised the Mossad never put a bullet through his head."

Perhaps he serves some vital purpose that they don't wish to be interrupted.

Blogger Oznoto Ignoto June 09, 2018 7:01 PM  

@VD,
Pardon me, but where does the Bible predict the extermination of the Hebrew people?
Please let me know. Thank you.

Anonymous Anonymous June 09, 2018 7:12 PM  

According to Rev. 7:4, only 144,000 Jews will survive. The rest (the Synagogue of Satan) must get holocausted for real this time.

Blogger Stilicho June 09, 2018 7:42 PM  

Retardation begins 2 SD below average.

Blogger Phillip George June 09, 2018 7:58 PM  

The killer of Aurelie Chatelaine is being housed, fed, receives free medical and dental care from the government and has his "rights" to multiculturalism respected.

The killer of Lee Rigby is being housed, fed, receives free medical and dental care from the government and has his "rights" to multiculturalism respected. He is also taunting the Lee's family from prison.

ie. The governments of Britain and France are aiding and abetting the enemies of the British and French.

every Multiculturalist likewise is aiding abetting the enemies of Jesus Christ. It costs bigly.


Blogger VD June 09, 2018 7:59 PM  

According to Rev. 7:4, only 144,000 Jews will survive.

One of the many reasons Jews aren't particularly keen on the New Testament.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 09, 2018 8:05 PM  

Planting redpill seeds, most of them sprout into well enough disciplined plants in the fertile soil of minds.

This one in particular has a tendency to grow wild and uncontrollable.

Many people just aren't capable of telling one from another. Many people just don't have time to waste even attempting to do so, and that segment is only going to balloon.

They are indeed paving the way to a second holocaust. The Germans were saying things not too different from now, and as now, they were mostly correct (((in))) their assertions at that point too. They knew who was playing the financial games. They knew who ordered the absurd and cruel plundering of Germany after their defeat in WWI, and who instigated the whole mess. Heck, they even had to get high on ideological poisons manufactured by (((people))) in Russia before they could bring themselves to begin the purge.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 09, 2018 8:15 PM  

As I've said before, no one in positions of power really wants to see the world burn just for the evulz.

Rather, they realize that ordered systems naturally harden against resource extraction by external entities. They don't want to see the world burn, they just want to tenderize it with a mallet, then slowly boil it alive so it's nice and tender for consumption.

This is exactly the sort of thing that drives subconscious/mystic thoughts of cannibalistic spirit cooking into the arms of pedophillic rape. If the old aren't consuming/expending the young in some fashion, it's just no fun for them. Inversions all the way down to the ninth circle.

Blogger Phillip George June 09, 2018 8:22 PM  

https://twitter.com/i/status/1005523300901163009

The first united states president for a very long time.

Blogger Phillip George June 09, 2018 8:30 PM  

what divided loyalties get you

OR saluting the flag of self immolation multiculturalism:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdMfx7DW4AAO38K.jpg

Blogger pyrrhus June 09, 2018 9:12 PM  

"Actually, that would be 2 STDV; retardation officially is IQ 70 and below.)"

You're confusing being too stupid to execute, per SCOTuS, with retardation. According to an old piece by Dr. Thompson, the Brits have found that people with IQs under 87 are "ineducable to any standard"...That's the kind of retardation we normally see. Kids with IQs in the 70s are in separate institutions.

Blogger pyrrhus June 09, 2018 9:13 PM  

Which means that most Africans cannot be educated at all in US schools.

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 09, 2018 9:25 PM  

You see why I have always been a fan of Israel.
It's a place we can deport Jews to.
No more of that "camps" crap where something could go wrong like a war or disaster then a bunch of them starve or get sick and die, then we get stuck with another 70 years of guilt trip.
Nope. No more. They have a country to go live in. If they don't want to live there, well it's nobody else's fault this time.
And yes, it's ok to tell people to leave. I didn't hear Jews complaining when the governor of New York told pro lifers and gin owners to go live somewhere else. As their SJW projects say:"Silence is consent ".

Blogger Ian Stein June 09, 2018 9:26 PM  

Soros is an anti-christ archetype.

Blogger R Doom June 09, 2018 9:34 PM  

3 SD below the mean is far worse than "moderate retardation," and I see others have pointed it out.

Can you point me to where Game Theory predicts as you say? Game theoretical calculations assume perfectly rational activity by the optimizer; I have my doubts in a semi-apocalyptic situation (or worse) that anyone at all will be acting perfectly rationally.

Blogger Lazarus June 09, 2018 9:48 PM  

Q research planefags report AF1 landided NW of Venice recently. POTUS probably meeting with Vox right now!

Blogger Tino June 09, 2018 9:54 PM  

EurAsia will make mince-meat of any Jews in its territory. Already those planning EurAsia intend the repatriation purge. If any Jew squawks, the EurAsian hawks intend extermination. So Vox's prediction is already in play.

Blogger Lazarus June 09, 2018 9:59 PM  

Aviano NATO base

Blogger Wolfman at Large June 09, 2018 10:03 PM  

@36 or Perhaps The God-Emperor is confronting the Snake Pope and giving him one last chance to repent?

Blogger Lovekraft June 09, 2018 10:32 PM  

On a positive note, the Marines gave the boot to that recent graduate of military college who flashed his pro-communism shirt.

Blogger Sheila4g June 09, 2018 10:48 PM  

OT: There is apparently a 20,000 strong demonstration in London in support of Tommy Robinson; they've injured 11 cops. I saw video of a crowd of White Brits literally chasing at least 2 dozen cops down the street chanting "We want Tommy OUT!"

Blogger kurt9 June 09, 2018 11:05 PM  

Phillip George wrote:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdMfx7DW4AAO38K.jpg


Is this true? What is the source of this information?

Blogger Gen. Kong June 09, 2018 11:19 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:

This man thrives on the suffering of others, and had done so since he was a child. For a Jewish teenager to go around assisting the Nazis in rounding up the Jews in his neighborhood (so that he could gather all the remaining valuables out of their houses) requieres a special form of heartlessness.

I'm really surprised the Mossad never put a bullet through his head.


The really strange thing - though not so strange when you actually think about it - is how there is hardly ever a breath of criticism directed at him from fellow members of the tribe - despite the fact that he was a literal Nazi collaborator. Old Glen Beck (the Cheetoze Jeezus) did a special about the activities of (((Soros))) at the end of WW II and (((guess who))) got him canned from Fox News? It gets better though. Guess who young George actually worked for in rounding up Jews in Hungary, looting their assets and handing them over to the Nazis?? The same fellow who Israel kidnapped and hanged (despite virtue-signals about not having a death penality) - Adolf Eichmann. Soros was Eichmann's errand boy, and perhaps much more given what's been leaking out about our wonderful Oligarch overlords like (((Jeffrey Epstein))).

Blogger Gen. Kong June 09, 2018 11:40 PM  

I'm really surprised the Mossad never put a bullet through his head.

There might be some Israeli Jews who would be in favor of this, but I expect that Israel itself (and Mossad) is controlled by the Body-Snatchers at least to a significant degree. Notice how the heat is turned up on Netanyahu from time to time? For example, when he decided to deport the African illegals the initial plan was to ship them home. This was changed to send them to EUSSR and other white countries (probably Trudeauville). Apparently some of the goyim got wind of this plan from the smartest, bestest and brightest folks in the history of the universe!!! (as they always remind) and its purpose - to genocide YT - became more obvious (since the tribe in EUSSR, KwaBananaland, etc. were quite supportive). Netanyahu reversed himself again and all of the sudden the scandal-pot was being heated local Ministry of Truth, which is probably owned by folks connected to Body-Snatchers. Perhaps that's what the notorious Q was referring to when he remarked that 'Israel is last'.

Blogger Eagle Elk June 09, 2018 11:58 PM  

@40.... Not the Corps...the Army: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/commie-west-point-grad-spenser-rapone-given-other-than-honorable-discharge-from-us-military/

Blogger VFM #7634 June 10, 2018 12:01 AM  

"subtract 35 to get

the estimated IQ ( 80 ) of a Border Collie."

@12 bob kek mando
I'll never forget the time when a relative's two border collies urged me to go out into the yard and play a ball game that they themselves invented, and taught me. It was some interesting variation of fetch, although I can't remember all the details.

Blogger tz June 10, 2018 12:04 AM  

Building holocaust museums and memorials while tearing down Confederate statues isn't being taken very well. A lot of the sons of the South fought Hitler.

And instead of gratitude for being in a country that let them be free to flourish and generally leave them alone, they seem to want to destroy White Christians and replace them with Muslims (who hate Jews) and Latinos (who don't care), and promote Blacks who believe the Jews are exploiting them (Farrakan just lost his check mark on twitter!).

Vox's post is NOT hyperbole. Most Jews, even conservatives don't understand that the Holocaust card has been overplayed for a while, and that "Anti-Semite" has been diluted just like "racist" or "white-supremacist", or even "Nazi". These are meaningless insults now.

The Jews who supported Hillary are just high-functioning antifa.

But just like our drones and bombers just target based on signals, so take out buildings with women and children, schools, hospitals, and wedding parties, the Jews won't be safe here.

Many posts ago I think Vox said "your skin is your uniform".

One point they should take from JBP is they need to fix themselves - they've been broken for 20 centuries since they killed their messiah - before worrying about fixing the world.

Blogger Ingot9455 June 10, 2018 12:05 AM  

Soros is actively evil, not passively evil or mistaken.
Remember that he implants spies in government and large company financial departments and uses the information he receives for his trades.
That's how he 'broke the Bank of England'. He had an insider tell him where the currency peg was and what the Bank of England's policy was going to be if their currency fell. He used that to devise a trade that the BoE would take the other side of and essentially give him money over and over until they couldn't any more.

It's a trick he's pulled many times, but like Jeffrey Epstein, he has too much pull and too much money to just try and arrest for a crime. If he gets personally threatened he tips dominoes and a lot of other people go down. So naturally they align themselves with him and start taking actions if he's threatened.

This is the whole thing with Q, defusing all these links and connections so that some of these people can actually be rooted out.

Blogger Ingot9455 June 10, 2018 12:07 AM  

@44 Israel has loads of serious commie leftists in positions of power. Imagine what the US would be like if the Supreme Court had 6 Ginsburgs, one Sotomayor, one Kagan, and one Kennedy. That's the Israeli Supreme Court.

Blogger liberranter June 10, 2018 12:09 AM  

"I'm really surprised the Mossad never put a bullet through his head."

Perhaps he serves some vital purpose that they don't wish to be interrupted.


That's the only theory that makes sense. If Soros were a genuine threat to The Tribe (especially Tribestan), the Mossad would have eliminated him decades ago.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 10, 2018 12:30 AM  

So, do they get some sort of benefit from Soros?

Otherwise, I'm sure he'd be regarded as a competitor.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 10, 2018 12:31 AM  

@17 Dirk Manly
What would happen if the entire Rothschild family tree were wiped out?
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There should be worldwide rejoicing. A large amount of what people blame as Jews is Rothschild scheming.

Blogger lowercaseb June 10, 2018 12:57 AM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Soros' last words after conviction will be something consistently clueless like "but I'm a good guy!" "I was just trying to help!"

More like: "Execute Order 66!"

Blogger lowercaseb June 10, 2018 1:11 AM  

Sheila4g wrote:OT: There is apparently a 20,000 strong demonstration in London in support of Tommy Robinson; they've injured 11 cops. I saw video of a crowd of White Brits literally chasing at least 2 dozen cops down the street chanting "We want Tommy OUT!"

Worth the view...

The push-through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9q-0wj31-E

The chase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5amAqkz2ro

This is the shape of things to come...

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas June 10, 2018 1:51 AM  

"Building holocaust museums and memorials while tearing down Confederate statues isn't being taken very well. A lot of the sons of the South fought Hitler.

And instead of gratitude for being in a country that let them be free to flourish and generally leave them alone, they seem to want to destroy White Christians and replace them"

Charleston, South Carolina was actually one of the birthplaces of Reform Judaism, less than 50 years after Independence. They rewarded the religious liberties they were given by American blood with centuries of tikkun olaming.

Blogger Q June 10, 2018 2:38 AM  

It's no surprise that the antichrist is a Jew.

Blogger Freddy June 10, 2018 2:55 AM  

joe Imbriano calling AJ out. Clowns own top positions

Blogger Rabid Ratel June 10, 2018 3:31 AM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:They are indeed paving the way to a second holocaust.

Hopefully, for them, this time it is really six gorrillion that gets holocausted.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) June 10, 2018 3:44 AM  

46. VFM #7634 June 10, 2018 12:01 AM
I'll never forget the time when a relative's two border collies urged me to go out into the yard and play a ball game that they themselves invented, and taught me.


it's scary enough to realize that Vox is as much smarter than your average Jew as the avg Jew is smarter than a Border Collie.

and that the Border Collie is basically as smart as your average Negro.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Creepy Joe Biden always asks for consent before changing your baby's diaper ) June 10, 2018 3:47 AM  

42. kurt9 June 09, 2018 11:05 PM
Is this true? What is the source of this information?



is it really that hard to search the internet or use wikipedia ( i would reference Infogalactic but i'm pointing that this is all fully acknowledged in public and there's no possible accusation of "biased and disreputable sources )?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank#Early_life,_education,_and_early_career

Blogger I DontTroll June 10, 2018 5:15 AM  

Average border collies have a higher IQ than the average national IQs of ALL of Sub-Saharan Africa.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Nations_and_intelligence

Blogger Станислав Бартошевич June 10, 2018 6:38 AM  

@27 "They knew who ordered the absurd and cruel plundering of Germany after their defeat in WWI, and who instigated the whole mess."

Germany was treated with immense leniency, absurd only in how utterly undeserved it was, after its defeat in WWI, which was instigated by Vienna with approval from Berlin.

As the absolute bare minimum, Entente should have mirrored Germany's treatment of France in 1871. I.e., levy a tribute intentionally set to the level they considered ensuring long-term economical ruination of the country (instead of only the level meant to recompense direct damage done by Germany) and occupy a huge part of the country until it is paid, accepting no excuses whatsoever (instead of allowing Germany to basically not pay much of all). The fair and just approach would have been mirroring Germany's treatment of Russia in 1918, i.e, partition the country, annexing or giving to your puppet states all the choicest pieces, and also levy a crushing tribute, with the eye of keeping the remaining part forever incapable of retaliation.

Blogger VD June 10, 2018 6:44 AM  

Germany was treated with immense leniency, absurd only in how utterly undeserved it was, after its defeat in WWI, which was instigated by Vienna with approval from Berlin.

That's utterly stupid and totally false.

Blogger Станислав Бартошевич June 10, 2018 6:52 AM  

"That's utterly stupid and totally false."

That's entirely true, and I don't think truth can be stupid. What exactly are you saying? That Germany was not treated with absurd leniency compared to Imperial Germany's own treatment of the defeated? Saying that is nothing more than brazen denial of the basic historical facts. That Germany did not instigate the WWI? Vienna sent the ultimatum to Serbia with the express intent to start a war, and Berlin greenlighted that. That they were deluding themselves about the composition of the coalition they are going to face testifies to their stupidity but does not change their intent. And regarding the final pulling of the trigger, while Germany tried to excuse their decision to start mobilization (which, in case of Germany, meant automatic war against a specific combination of enemies, namely France and Russia) by Russia's mobilization (which, unlike German mobilization, did not automatically mean war), the decision in Berlin was reached before getting news of that, merely published after them.

Blogger VD June 10, 2018 7:17 AM  

That's entirely true, and I don't think truth can be stupid. What exactly are you saying? That Germany was not treated with absurd leniency compared to Imperial Germany's own treatment of the defeated?

It's not true at all. The Treaty of Versailles was vicious, unmerited, and the armistice would have been rejected out of hand by the Germans had they any idea the subsequent treaty was going to be so harsh on them.

Germany lost 67,273 square kilometers, one-eighth of its territory, with a population of 5,138,000 people. Germany lost all her colonies. All merchant ships with a capacity over 1,600 tons’ displacement were confiscated, as well as one-half of the merchant ships exceeding 1,000 tons’ displacement, a quarter of the fishing fleet, and one-fifth of the river fleet. Germany was also required, for the next five years, to build for the Allies merchant ships, totaling 200,000 tons’ displacement per year. Germany was obligated to supply France with up to 140 million tons of coal, Belgium 80 million tons, and Italy 77 million tons. Also, it was required to transfer to the winners half of its paints and non-military chemicals and to provide up to a quarter of the future production through 1925.1 The Allies received the right to use German ports, railroads, and waterways on very beneficial terms. On top of all this, Germany was forced into paying astronomical amounts of retribution. The Versailles Treaty was not only extremely unfair and degrading to Germany, it was ineffective and did not carry any basis for a lasting peace.
- Viktor Suvorov

Everyone from Lenin to John Maynard Keynes knew the Versailles Treaty was excessive, morally wrong, and doomed to failure. Lenin even planned to use it as the basis of world revolution.

“The order held by the Versailles peace treaty lies over a volcano, since the seventy percent of the world’s people who are enslaved are anxiously awaiting someone to come and start a struggle for their liberation, and to rock the foundation of their countries.”
Vladimir Lenin, October 15, 1920

That's why Lenin and Stalin helped fund the Nazi Party. They intended the Nazi conquest of Western Europe to lay the foundation for global communist revolution.

You are stupid, you are historically ignorant, and you are totally wrong. Do not attempt to correct your intellectual superiors again.

Blogger VD June 10, 2018 7:24 AM  

The fair and just approach would have been mirroring Germany's treatment of Russia in 1918, i.e, partition the country, annexing or giving to your puppet states all the choicest pieces, and also levy a crushing tribute, with the eye of keeping the remaining part forever incapable of retaliation.

You don't understand at all. That was Lenin and Trotsky, not the cruel and greedy Germans. They knew the Germans needed lots of resources to stay in WWI longer. So, they provided them, in order to prolong the game of "you and him fight."

Russia wasn't beaten. It intentionally laid down to keep the Germans from being beaten.

To be capable of fighting in the war as long as possible, Germany needed strategic resources in large quantities. Lenin and Trotsky again came to Kaiser Wilhelm’s aid. They signed the Brest-Litovsk Treaty in March 1918. The Russian Communists, without battle, handed over approximately a million square kilometers of their territory to the Germans. Fifty-six million people, about a third of the Russian empire’s population, inhabited this territory. The occupied area encompassed more than a quarter of the nation’s cultivated lands; it housed 26 percent of the railways, and major industrial capabilities. Seventy-three percent of Russia’s iron and steel was cast in these territories, and 89 percent of Russia’s coal was mined there.

Most important of all, these were Russia’s most fertile lands. Mass export of food to Germany began immediately. A financial agreement, signed on August 27, 1918, stated that Russia had to pay Germany war reparations totaling 6 billion marks. Without such a gift, Germany would have been unable to support herself until November of 1918.

- Viktor Suvorov

Blogger Solon June 10, 2018 7:57 AM  

Never thought I'd see the day when someone claimed that the Versailles Treaty was "lenient" to Germany.

Blogger Станислав Бартошевич June 10, 2018 8:17 AM  

"It's not true at all. The Treaty of Versailles was vicious, unmerited, and the armistice would have been rejected out of hand by the Germans had they any idea the subsequent treaty was going to be so harsh on them."

The Treaty of Versailles was lenient, unmerited in its leniency, and the Germans never had the option to reject the armistice, except in their imagination, because the armistice was, in fact, the unconditional surrender of the Second Reich, which, as its military leadership understood very well in October of 1918 (but denied later) had no greater chances of successfully resisting the armies converging on it than the Third Reich had in October of 1944. (Anyone wishing to argue that, should consider that not only the German army on the Western front was in full retreat, with no manpower reserves left, disputable prospects of getting to the other side of Rhine in relative order, and not only the German fleet just rebelled when ordered to do battle which would have been unwinnable anyway, every single ally of Germany had by that point already collapsed, freeing millions of the Entente's soldiers, and creating an inevitable new front in the south.) The Germans were the ones who came begging for the armistice, its conditions, such as unilateral disarmament of the German army left not a shred of doubt that it was in fact a surrender, the fact that the German delegation was not at any point even invited to discuss peace terms left not a shred of doubt that Germany had, in fact, surrendered. And that any of the German people managed to convince themselves otherwise at any point testifies only to the depth of their rejection of reality.

"Germany lost 67,273 square kilometers, one-eighth of its territory"

Little more than a year before that, Germany (directly or through formation of puppet states that remained occupied by German troops) annexed 780,000 square kilometers with population of 56 millions from Russia. They had to know that this would instantly turn the pacifists in the surviving Entente countries into advocates of war to the bitter end, and they had to know that this would make any compromise peace unacceptable in a situation where the remaining enemy coalition still outnumbered and outproduced the Central Powers, but they just could not help their imperial greed! So, cry me a river about poor unfairly treated Germans.

Blogger Станислав Бартошевич June 10, 2018 8:17 AM  


"The Versailles Treaty was not only extremely unfair and degrading to Germany, it was ineffective and did not carry any basis for a lasting peace."

It was ineffective and did not carry any basis for a lasting peace because it was not nearly punishing enough. Indeed, with Russia greatly weakened by the revolution and out of the political game for a time, Eastern Europe now filled with weak national states, and France never getting recompensed for utter ruination of its northern departments (because Germany never paid most of the contributions levied on it), it left Germany in the position of greater relative power in the continental Europe. Further examination of this topic can be found in "Myth of Reparations" and other articles by Sally Marks.


"Everyone from Lenin to John Maynard Keynes knew the Versailles Treaty was excessive, morally wrong, and doomed to failure."

So, everyone from one morally bankrupt, downright evil left-winger who ruined his country to another morally bankrupt, downright evil left-winger who ruined his country, albeit not as swiftly and radically as Lenin?


"“The order held by the Versailles peace treaty lies over a volcano, since the seventy percent of the world’s people who are enslaved are anxiously awaiting someone to come and start a struggle for their liberation, and to rock the foundation of their countries.”
Vladimir Lenin, October 15, 1920"

Germany contained that seventy percent of the world's people? Really? Words of a professional demagogue (and a great one at that) may be taken at face value? Really?

"That's why Lenin and Stalin helped fund the Nazi Party. They intended the Nazi conquest of Western Europe to lay the foundation for global communist revolution."

Only in Victor Suvorov's works of fantasy. If you want to blame someone besides Germans themselves, blame Wall Street rather than Kremlin, what with their policies aimed to alleviate Germany's problems and strong-arm England and France into lifting the conditions of Versailles, as described, say, by Tooze in "Wages of Destruction". Keynes' opinion is only informative insofar as he spoke for them. That by the way did not prevent the Third Reich's leaders from imagining a conspiracy of Wall Street's Jewry intended to keep Germany down.

"You are stupid, you are historically ignorant, and you are totally wrong."

You forgot to add "Gamma".

Blogger LAZ June 10, 2018 8:38 AM  

It's too early for popcorn ;)

Blogger VD June 10, 2018 8:58 AM  

It was ineffective and did not carry any basis for a lasting peace because it was not nearly punishing enough.

As I said, you're stupid. Ludicrously stupid. You don't even know Russian military history as well as I do.

Germany contained that seventy percent of the world's people?

No, you idiot. Lenin and Trotsky planned world revolution. They intended to continue what they started in Russia in Germany, as per Marx. Hence the Soviet support for Hitler's failed Bavarian Putsch.

Only in Victor Suvorov's works of fantasy.

There is no "fantasy" about it. Nigel Askey's massive multi-volume operational study of Operation Barbarossa completely supports Suvorov's very logical conclusions:

The Soviet armed forces that were Deployed (D) on 22nd June 1941 easily represented the largest armed forces in the world at that time. In fact the Soviet armed forces that existed on 22nd June 1941 were probably the largest armed forces ever maintained by any single country that was not at war.

5,447,900 men, 23,300 tanks, 20,800 combat aircraft, 15,100 anti-tank guns, 8,600 anti-aircraft guns, 56,100 mortars and 34,000 artillery pieces. They were mostly positioned forward, with fast light tanks and light air-to-ground bombers, because Stalin was planning on taking all of Europe from Hitler. Hitler's attack on the Soviet Union wasn't an act of epic stupidity, but epic desperation.

So, you're not only stupid, you're also lying. You're banned. Don't ever comment here again.

Blogger James June 10, 2018 10:14 AM  

"That's why Soros opponents like Prime Minister Netanyahu are openly telling Jews to return to Jerusalem this year rather than a next year that never seems to come. Netanyahu is smart and he is looking out for his people. He knows what is likely to happen once the global economic meltdown begins."

I wonder how Netanyahu really feels about a massive influx of mostly Ashkenazi immigrants? Historically, Israeli leadership has been disproportionately Ashkenazic, but the majority of the population is Sephardic/Mizrahi. Will the new citizens, who don't play well with others in the rest of the world, play well with Israelis? Israel survives because they recognize they can only do so via cooperation with each other. Can returning Ashkenazi overcome their scorpion natures and not kill the frog?

Blogger VD June 10, 2018 10:20 AM  

That by the way did not prevent the Third Reich's leaders from imagining a conspiracy of Wall Street's Jewry intended to keep Germany down.

That false assertion is further confirmation that you're a shameless liar. It also demonstrates that you are knowingly attempting to push disinformation on the readership here. World Jewry very publicly declared war on Nazi Germany in 1933. It was described in The Daily Express on Friday, March 24, 1933.

Contra your fellow disinformationists, it's not an Internet myth. I've confirmed the existence of the article myself.

Don't come back again.

Blogger Blunt Force June 10, 2018 10:21 AM  

62. Станислав Бартошевич

' Germany was treated with immense leniency, absurd only in how utterly undeserved it was, after its defeat in WWI, which was instigated by Vienna with approval from Berlin."

Out of kindness I suppose.


Conjuring Hitler

https://archive.org/details/ConjuringHitler

Blogger cavalier973 June 10, 2018 10:41 AM  

A recent poll says that 77% of,Israeli Jews approve of Pres. Trump's handling of U.S.-Israeli relations, compared,to only 34% of U.S. Jews.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/06/10/poll-shows-deep-divisions-between-israelis-and-american-jews.html

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 10, 2018 12:17 PM  

Blunt Force wrote:which was instigated by Vienna with approval from Berlin.
No. Austria-Hungary was cracking down on a rebellious protectorate after the Communists that were festering there assassinated the Imperial crown prince.
It was France, England and Russia's choice to escalate what should have been an internal matter of the Empire to the level pan-European war.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( Campaigning to recognize the Democratic voting Rights of Border Collies and Negros ) June 10, 2018 12:32 PM  

Communists Always Lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOtinTlx7yo

Blogger James June 10, 2018 4:34 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Blunt Force wrote:which was instigated by Vienna with approval from Berlin.

No. Austria-Hungary was cracking down on a rebellious protectorate after the Communists that were festering there assassinated the Imperial crown prince.
It was France, England and Russia's choice to escalate what should have been an internal matter of the Empire to the level pan-European war.


The truth is that all the major players wanted war. Historians will often point to protocols enshrined in the treaties and army policies that made war inevitable. For instance, the German General Staff was going to mobilize if any of the major powers mobilized. The Russian Army mobilized, so the German Army mobilized to be ready before the Russians could reach the front. The Russian Emperors had decided that Russia was the protector of the Slavic people, which justified them intervening in an internal affair of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. But, the English wanted war to prevent Germany from becoming the major continental power, the French wanted war to get revenge on their Franco-Prussian humiliation, and Germany wanted war because it was their turn to be the boss. Plus, Europe had become very boring and the lads needed to kill some other lads and blow things up to relieve the boredom.

Blogger DonReynolds June 10, 2018 4:45 PM  

Murphy's Law is that if things CAN go wrong, they will. But I have found that Murphy was an optimist. Very often things go wrong when they CANNOT, but they do anyway. This often happens when people do not understand how things work, so they cannot see any possibility of failure. They are blinded to real possibilities, but they happen anyway.

This is particularly true of the Left, who has been completely blindsided for years (and their civic nationalist cousins). They cannot imagine how it is possible for anyone to honestly hold a contrary or opposing opinion, but many people do so every day, and that is why they lose and why they will continue to lose. They fail to address the concerns of very many people because they refuse to admit that such concerns exist or are truly significant to others. The Liberal Agenda is based on lies, false assumptions, and unrealistic expectations.... the most unrealistic being that no one will ever push back.
So....Push back hard.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 10, 2018 8:01 PM  

@59

"and that the Border Collie is basically as smart as your average Negro."

Are you sure?
I've never heard of a Border Collie smoking crack....

Blogger Dirk Manly June 10, 2018 8:10 PM  

@64

"Saying that is nothing more than brazen denial of the basic historical facts. That Germany did not instigate the WWI?"

For someone calling himself Stanislav Bartoshevich, and written in Cyrillic, no less, you are incredibly ignorant.

World War 1 wasn't even a war until the foolish Czar Nicholas ignored Gregori Rasputin's adamant advice to stay the hell out of Yugoslavia (regardless of "little-brother" Serbians), or the consequences would be losing the country and his life.

Russia invades Austria-Hungary
This invokes the alliance with Germany.
Germany invades Russia.

In WW1, Russia got everything that it deserved. And as most everyone here (especially Het1) will attest, I tend to defend Russia rather strongly.

Станислав Бартошевич

Blogger Dirk Manly June 10, 2018 8:15 PM  

Stanislav, your are either a liar or an idiot.

Even before the negotiations were finished, observers at the Treaty negotiations were saying (and even writing in newspapers) that the terms being demanded by the French and British were so harsh that they were laying the foundations for a 2nd World War.

Were these reporters in 1918 time-travellers, or were they just reporting the obvious.

Blogger tz June 11, 2018 10:06 AM  

Even better, (Putin needs Twitter) Putin notes how his chef is a "private citizen", but the USA keeps claiming that George Soros is also a "Private Citizen" when he is trying to overthrow countries in Eastern Europe, interfere with elections in other countries, and manipulate currencies

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