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Tuesday, June 26, 2018

Will no one rid Disney of this troublesome SJW?

Star Wars is broken, Kathleen Kennedy broke it, and Disney doesn't know how to fix it or who is going to fix it for them.
Disney staged a big "secret" conference call with ranking people in the Star Wars division. Security guards were posted outside the doors at offices to prevent eavesdropping. Pixar and Marvel representatives were able to listen in on the call, but not speak on it. Apparently this was allowed to get feedback, I guess at a later point, about the Star Wars situation.

Disney's head Bob Iger wants to fire Kathleen Kennedy, but there's a problem: No one they're willing to offer the job to is willing to take it. JJ Abrams (Randolph reports) was offered the job, but turned it down flat. "Several" were approached.

One person that's brought up as a possible replacement for Kennedy, Dave Filloni, isn't being considered for the job by Iger, I guess because he hasn't run anything big like a studio.

Randolph says (speculating, I think) that no one wants the job because the Lucasfilm team is divided between old-guard Star Wars people and Kennedy's handpicked loyalists.

I would speculate myself that, assuming this claim that no one wants the job is true, it's because the brand is broken, and people know that, and it's a no-win situation: Everyone seems to think that Star Wars is supposed to make money automatically. That's no longer true post-Solo, but people still think that, so any head of Lucasfilm is in a situation where the best they can do is meet expectations (make money), and the worst they can do is fail spectacularly.

There's no upside. Well, except a huge pile of money, but I imagine the people being approached are already getting huge piles of money from other ventures with more of an upside as far as their reputations.

So no big-name person would want to walk into that situation. Smaller names would take that chance, but apparently Disney hasn't gotten desperate enough to offer it to a smaller name. Yet.

Randolph says that Disney feels that Star Wars is too targeted to "older SJWs," instead of its traditional fan base of men, and this is also hurting Star Wars in its merchandise sales, as "older SJWs" don't really buy movie tickets and certainly don't spend a lot of money on Milennium Falcon playsets.

She also reports that all the Star Wars "anthology" movies are indeed on hold as Disney tries to figure this out, except maybe for one: The Obi-Wan movie, which Disney thinks it should have made instead of Star Wars. However, while this movie is not officially on hold, it's also not on the front-burner, either.
SJWs are corporate cancer. I'm glad I didn't finish the book in January like I'd originally planned. To quote the former Disney employee formerly known as The Sports Guy, "The lesson, as always, is this: women ruin everything."

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135 Comments:

Blogger widlast washere June 26, 2018 4:22 PM  

So, even the dimwits that run Disney can grasp the obvious.

The wonders never cease.

Blogger Dave June 26, 2018 4:26 PM  

Ultimately, even within Disney, it eventually always boils down to the bottom line.

Blogger Damn Crackers June 26, 2018 4:27 PM  

The Obi-Wan movie will be put on hold until they find out how sexually fluid the Jedi will be.

Blogger Dave June 26, 2018 4:30 PM  

Instead of making a boys' adventure franchise she didn't get and didn't like, she made it into something she could like: a girls' empowerment fantasy.

This kind of sums up the problem with Social Justice Warriors taking over male-skewing sections of pop culture: They just don't like it. They never did like it. Some of them even feel that these parts of pop culture encourage "toxic masculinity," and therefore are evil.

And therefore must be subverted and remade into something they never were before.


Gee, ya think?

Blogger widlast washere June 26, 2018 4:30 PM  

"The Obi-Wan movie will be put on hold until they find out how sexually fluid the Jedi will be."

The only Jedi that was not celibate was Anakin, and he went off the deep end largely because of obsession over the woman.
(and being too stupid to grasp that he was being played by Palpatine)

Blogger doctrev June 26, 2018 4:32 PM  

Disney had zero problem with the SJW nonsense until the effects couldn't be covered up with heavy-handed PR and Youtube censorship. No matter what, Episode 9 will be a total waste of time and money. At least, compared to the opportunity cost for Disney as a whole.

If they want short-term money, go for a total reset. Offer Harrison Ford whatever he wants for one more movie in a new trilogy, and Mark Hamill gets input into the series that defined his career. SJW though he is, the man has a few decent Star Wars insights. Keep parts of the current female fanbase with a lady hero, and a truthful explanation that Episode 9 would be a disaster plot-wise, we're starting over.

If they were really smart and cared about the long-term viability of the franchise, they'd put the whole thing on the back burner until a new team focused on entertainment delivered something everyone could enjoy. But they obviously won't do that, as Hollywood is going all out to spit on white Americans and initiate a soft civil war- they're confident of winning, and recent history offers that view a lot of support. What they're actually doing is making themselves the enemies of real Americans, and cutting themselves off from their supply of golden eggs, but shhh. Never interrupt the enemy when they're making a mistake.

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 26, 2018 4:38 PM  

Kathleen Kennedy came up with a unique method of job security you have to giver that. Who wants to be the captain of the Titanic after it's hit the ice berg.

The problem for Iger is that he wants a Big Name to replace her and none of those guys want to throw the dice on it. You can't really blame them.

This is a situation where the guy who takes over has both a toxic work environment to straighten out and he has to win super big right out of the gate.

Risk/Reward ratio is too slanted towards risk.

And to make matters worse, the production of Episode IX was too far along when Soylo exploded on the pad. It's going to have to be made.

Let's face it, it's going to bomb too. Nobody wants to take over when the next film is almost a guaranteed bomb.

Kathleen Kennedy was so bad at her job, nobody in his right mind wants it.

Blogger KPP June 26, 2018 4:38 PM  

>>Instead of making a boys' adventure franchise she didn't get and didn't like, she made it into something she could like: a girls' empowerment fantasy.<<

Which is something that she thinks boys should like, so shoving it down their throats was fine. Because it's good for them.

I abandoned Disney. I haven't been to the last few Star Wars films, the last few Marvel films, and I'll be skipping Pixar as well. I may not totally eschew everything they produce, but if I do consume it, it will be on the second-hand market, where Disney can neither make a dime from my purchase, nor count me in their accounting as generating demand.

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 26, 2018 4:47 PM  

The reason it's guaranteed to be a bomb is that there is no narrative to the third trilogy so there is no reason to see the third movie.

The trilogy is supposed to be analogous to the three act play. The Setup, The Confrontation and finally the Resolution.

The first trilogy fit this model perfectly. The second one...meh not as well but the structure was followed.

This third one was blown by that incompetent man-boobed idiot Rian Johnson. He made the Resolution the second act.

There is literally no compelling reason to see the third movie in this series.

And sure as hell, nobody is going to go because they love these new characters. Who cares if Kylo Ren is defeated? Rey did that in the first movie. Who cares if he turns back to light? He'll still be a patricide and besides there will then be no Dark Lord for him to fight.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 26, 2018 4:50 PM  

The Jew cries out as the woman strikes him .

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 26, 2018 4:51 PM  

I suppose the last and biggest reason Episode IX will fail is this.

The Last Jedi wasn't the biggest fight. It wasn't the worst fight.

It was just the last fight. It was the, "this relationship is over" fight. It was the break-up fight.

Sure Star Wars is now sobbing in her bed because it's over but it is over because we just don't care about the relationship anymore.

Have a good life, I really hope you find someone who is right for you Star Wars because it clearly and obviously isn't me... It's you.

Blogger English Tom June 26, 2018 4:52 PM  

I heard one of Kennedy's mentors had some advice for her to overcome this tribulation: use the force Kath, use the force.

Blogger Matthew June 26, 2018 4:59 PM  

@12

It is female after all, or so I have been led to believe...

Blogger Ingot9455 June 26, 2018 5:02 PM  

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Blogger James Dixon June 26, 2018 5:03 PM  

> Star Wars is broken, Kathleen Kennedy broke it, and Disney doesn't know how to fix it or who is going to fix it for them.

It couldn't happen to a more deserving company. I hope it costs them billions before it's over.

Blogger Ingot9455 June 26, 2018 5:06 PM  

Imagine being J.J. Abrams and having left dangling plot threads for someone... like you're the best in the world at dangling plot threads with Chris Claremont a distant second...

And Rian crapped all over them so not even you can pick them up. (Not that you're good at picking up your own plot threads mind you. )

Blogger Anno Ruse June 26, 2018 5:08 PM  

Star Wars at a dead end, Pixar can't make fun movies anymore, Marvel about to ramp up their "girls can be heroes (and directors) too!" films... Disney sure does seem to suck the life out of everything they touch.

Blogger Andrew Wetzel June 26, 2018 5:13 PM  

The problem being, they (Disney, the Star-Wars people, the director) have painted themselves into a corner. There is literally no place to go in the original story line (which they killed) to break away from the tact they took without so jumbling the storyline that no-one would recognize it.

Unless they just went ahead and completely rebooted the whole franchise, or at least Episode 7 and 8. Which they won't.

The only maneuvering room is in the anthologies and prequels that predate Episode 7. And they managed to kill the golden goose (admittedly it was pretty diseased from Episode 1-3. (Though I liked watching the sanctimonious Jedi get slaughtered like the ass-hats they sure seemed to be (yes, even the kids, just think of them as Ewoks and you'll join in the fun), the hours-long (so it seemed) circle-jerk at the end took all the fun out of the movie.

Dead. They killed the franchise. They actually made people sympathetic to the Imperials. They made Space Nazis seem fun and good. No place to turn from that steaming pile of Ton-Ton guts.

Female, male, cis, trans, beta, meta... don't care. Again, they made Space Nazis the good guys. Oy Vey.

What next, a remake of "Casablanca" where we end up rooting for the Nazis over Rick and Renault?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 26, 2018 5:13 PM  

Disney's fresh idea will be to put Stormy Daniels in the movie, as I wrote at Dark Herald IMO the whole SW trope is over run it into the ground like a rocket powered lawn dart.

A feminized culture has captured Disney there is no hope, from that culture the worst of the worst rule the roost . The next movie will according to my WAG be one resting bitch face after another trying to out scowl one another, somewhat like an old Samoan battle contest of making faces but with females.

Blogger Out of Nod June 26, 2018 5:15 PM  

There is only one Star Wars universe and that is the one that Disney erased. You want to save the series? Scrap episodes 7-9 (and all the crap in between), find viable replacement actors for the Skywalker/Solo clan, and make the Thrawn Trilogy. It's what Disney should have done in the first place. Disney would have made their money and the fans would be complaining how the movie doesn't follow the books well, but they'd still be fans.

Blogger The Only Cigar in the Box June 26, 2018 5:18 PM  

Kathleen Kennedy: "The Force is female."

Yoda: "That is why you fail."

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 26, 2018 5:27 PM  

Watching Disney slide into K-Mart-like irrelevance is going to be more entertaining than any books or film they've managed to produce in my lifetime.

Blogger Brian S June 26, 2018 5:30 PM  

"Instead of making a boys' adventure franchise she didn't get and didn't like, she made it into something she could like: a girls' empowerment fantasy."

Sounds like the same problem with K-12 public education

Blogger RB June 26, 2018 5:30 PM  

I can't believe women could be so obtuse that they would even want The Force (God) to be female. If that were to come to pass, the flood of Noah would be a weekly event..

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 26, 2018 5:31 PM  

Trump will be the next Grand Admiral.

Blogger NO GOOGLES June 26, 2018 5:33 PM  

I'm not sure how you fix the main series of movies after The Last Jedi. TLJ so thoroughly destroyed basically everything that people loved about the original trilogy and offered basically nothing but extremely shallow and mostly poorly written cardboard characters to replace it.

I think Star Wars could have been redeemed from The Force Awakens, but it would have taken some really ballsy measures to do so. The biggest would be redeeming Kylo Ren (one of the only halfway interesting characters in the new movies) and turning Rey into Snoke's apprentice. They could have easily done that with the info that was given in TFA but they obviously didn't want to take such a risk when TFA made $2 billion.

I'm still not even decided if Rian Johnson is just epically incompetent or if he did a halfway subtle job of intentionally destroying Star Wars. There's just so much intentional dismantling of fan favorites and even the accomplishments and values of the old movies while even destroying the few lifelines that TFA set up for the new characters. Rey has no interesting backstory while they systemically invalidate Luke and Leia. Snoke is killed off nonchalantly with no backstory. The New Republic evaporates overnight off screen and we literally NEVER saw anyone or anything related to it.

Even the Rose character being the biggest possible traitor while lecturing Finn about "defending what he loves" as her betrayal literally sentences all but a handful of the remaining rebels to death because she wanted to bone Finn. That one shot of the laser firing in the background and she recites her insane, idiotic pablum is so blatant that it alone is a huge argument for Rian ruining TLJ intentionally.

I wouldn't want to be in charge of Star Wars after TLJ either. How do you fix it? All of the good characters are dead. The Rebellion is dead, the New Republic is dead and literally everything that was fought for and accomplished in the original trilogy has been invalidated. All you have is some bad characters that no one cares about left. You'd have an easier time starting over from scratch.

Blogger qualitycontrol June 26, 2018 5:34 PM  

It's not about fixing Star Wars. Disney wants to hire a big name that will give people the confidence to buy the ticket for the almost finished 'Episode 9' (or at least they already spend half or more of it's budget).

@6. doctrev
I agree with you. Star Wars has the potential to win almost everyone back. The franchise is to strong and episode 4-6 still exist. But they won't do it. So let's hope one of our guys will be able to buy the franchise for cents on the dollar in a few years. But I wouldn't be surprised if Disney just stops doing anything with it. Just to spite at the white males that liked star wars.

Blogger R.G. Camara June 26, 2018 5:34 PM  

I have a pet conspiracy theory that Kathleen Kennedy actually isn't the problem, but she's the designated fall guy.

I conceived of this because her vast body of work shows she's very good at making movies that white men love and show white males being heroic and saving the day: she had a hand in all the Indiana Jones films and all the Back to the Future films, plus a bunch of others.

The idea that in her late-career she'd flip to make some SJW, anti-white, anti-male, pro-grrrl-power cow dung doesn't seem to jibe with the rest of her work. So my thought was Disney corporate brought her on (yay! a female producer!) and told her to say all the grrl power things, but that its someone higher up (say, on the corporate board itself) that's forcing this on her. And that she, herself, is the source of the leaks on Solo and other bad leaks for the studio (for example, the leaks about Rogue One doing reshoots because of the fallout from Girlbusters).

Anyway, that's just my pet theory, I don't know anyone involved, don't work in the industry, nor do I have a dog in this fight.

Blogger lowercaseb June 26, 2018 5:40 PM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:I suppose the last and biggest reason Episode IX will fail is this.

The Last Jedi wasn't the biggest fight. It wasn't the worst fight.

It was just the last fight. It was the, "this relationship is over" fight. It was the break-up fight.

Sure Star Wars is now sobbing in her bed because it's over but it is over because we just don't care about the relationship anymore.

Have a good life, I really hope you find someone who is right for you Star Wars because it clearly and obviously isn't me... It's you.


That is one of the best ways I have heard of how to sum up the whole situation. Consider that stolen...

Blogger NO GOOGLES June 26, 2018 5:40 PM  

@28
The thing you have to understand is that Kathleen Kennedy worked on those movies, but she wasn't "in charge" of those movies. At this point she's not just another cog in the machine, she's the one pulling the levers.

Secondly, remember that Indiana Jones and BTTF were literally ~25+ years ago. A lot can happen to a person in that time and back then, the whole "SJW" nonsense was completely unknown even if it did exist in the bowels of some campus library basement.

Blogger VoodooJock June 26, 2018 5:44 PM  

I'm sure there's plenty of old-line Star Wars fans, like a Kevin Smith, that could take control of the franchise and remain faithful to the core material and the core fanbase. They literally could clean house and fire all things Kathleen and start over like any good corporate turn-around artist would do. They won't, because that entails violating their SJW ethos.

Disney's problem is that conflicts with their SJW bent. Their problem isn't how to save the franchise, it's how to make it palatable to their SJW platform yet make money. They're not going to be any more successful than alchemists trying to convert lead to gold.

Blogger Nate June 26, 2018 5:47 PM  

this shouldn't be that hard. you look at everyone Kennedy hired or promoted... and you fire them.

Blogger NO GOOGLES June 26, 2018 5:50 PM  

@32
Right, but they don't think Kennedy's politics are the problem: just that she screwed up something considered literally impossible to screw up. They want to keep the politics but get Star Wars back to making money. Mostly because they haven't been making money on Star Wars merchandise even though that was the biggest reason they bought Star Wars. Movie profits are ancillary but all of the new toys aren't selling and are ending up on clearance right after the movie debuts in theaters.

Blogger VoodooJock June 26, 2018 5:52 PM  

The franchise isn't dead. The franchise as we know it is dead. All they really need to do is reboot the series. How many times has Batman fought the Joker on the Silver Screen? Joker got killed each time.

All it would take is all these perverse story lines culminating in a new tyrranical empire (An SJW empire would be even better), and another rag-tag bunch of disparate heroes (from Alpha to Delta and Sigma) thrown into the fight against a villain and her gamma orbiters.

They grow a pair and make a movie like that with a complete absence of those diversity 'morality plays' they've been making, watch how fast it'd return to the prominence of the first 2 movies made.

Blogger MrNiceguy June 26, 2018 5:53 PM  

And while they're looking at the EU books, take the X-Wing series and turn it into a TV series. Mil-sci makes for decent TV - just look at the good parts of Battlestar Galactica.

Blogger MrNiceguy June 26, 2018 5:57 PM  

... Or at least monthly.
All too easy

Blogger kapy53 June 26, 2018 6:09 PM  

I never even considered that Rian would deliberately destroy the series that he likely loved as a kid. He knew the prequals were grabage and decided to take the jump on directing a Star Wars film, but knew killing it would be the only way to allow the original trilogy to survive.

Blogger Pierre Truc June 26, 2018 6:12 PM  

Material for tomorrow's Jordanetics Day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIfLTQAKKfg

This one is high-level! JP says ancient indians knew about DNA because they saw a double helix while high on ayahuasca. But he's "speculating", as he says "I'm operating at the edge of my understanding!"

Holy shit.

Also, aliens.

Blogger qualitycontrol June 26, 2018 6:13 PM  

@28. R.G. Camara
It's an interesting theory but Kathleen Kennedy seems to be incredible lucky to tag along Steven Spielberg. I don't think she created anything great. Ever. Star Wars was her big chance to show everyone (and especially Spielberg) that she could do just as well of a Job. That she was just as important in creating Movies like Jurassic Park.

Disney puts her in charge of Star Wars and she can't fill it's shoes. Sure she saw the movies George Lucas made but she never was a true fan. Someone that truly understood the franchise. She then does things all liberal women CEOs do: Hire more women & minorities, promote more women & minorities, follow the culture as you think it is and purge all white men that understand and love Star Wars.

The lesson to learn from this is: If you inherit or buy a franchise, make sure that you put it's true fans in charge.

Blogger kapy53 June 26, 2018 6:13 PM  

The only way to save it is make the next film heavily focus on Kylo Ren and bring in that weird 'Jar Jar Evil Sith Lord" fan theory and just go balls out crazy with it. Make the Empire good, make the resistance out to be a bunch of idiots. Have Rey and Kylo a romantic team.

It won't be a conclusion so much as an actual new start for something different.

Blogger Chris McCullough June 26, 2018 6:17 PM  

Nothing spells disaster than a Kennedy and Johnson at the helm.

Blogger ar10308 June 26, 2018 6:19 PM  

Star Wars is the greatest destruction of a brand that has ever been done.

All they had to do was make something like a Marvel movie with fun and likable characters on an adventure, they would have made money. Give them a compelling, scary enemy to fight and you have a good movie.

If they had made the new Star Wars similar to Serenity/Firefly, they would have been successful. But they couldn't help themselves. They had to meddle to the point of destroying it. The story of the Frog and the Scorpian come to mind here.

Blogger Howard Stone June 26, 2018 6:22 PM  

Who’s Kathleen Kennedy?

Blogger artensoll June 26, 2018 6:24 PM  

@21 Yoda: "That is why fail, you do"

fify

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 26, 2018 6:25 PM  

MrNiceguy wrote:... Or at least monthly.

All too easy


Impressive. Obi-Wan has taught you well.

Blogger rws June 26, 2018 6:31 PM  

If you look at Kathleen Kennedy's history as a producer it's always paired with Frank Marshall. He's gone; she's got nobody to keep her in check anymore.

Blogger steb June 26, 2018 6:33 PM  

If they want to save the franchise, they've got a bring back Luke.

They don't even need to really explain how he's still alive. Have a new set of young, likable characters get into some kind of jam and then, a third of the way through the movie - hey, turns out that old guy who lives in the wilderness is a Jedi master in hiding, and he's going to train us to use the force!

Blogger Peaceful Poster June 26, 2018 6:35 PM  

Women ruin everything

Paging cryptofasion.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 26, 2018 6:39 PM  

What would be better would be "How To Succeed At Movies Without Really Trying".
White Male Christian documentarian rises to the top by making movies that would enthrall his 12-year-old self, dealing humiliation, butthurt, and corporate one upmanship to a vile assortment of loathesome gays, feminazis, SJWs, Commies, freaks and trannies on the way.

Blogger Ingot9455 June 26, 2018 6:41 PM  

Hey, the Luke who died in TLJ could have been a clone grown from the cut-off hand in Empire. That would explain where whoosis picked up Luke's old lightsaber that was clutched in it at the time.

Blogger Al K. Annossow June 26, 2018 6:45 PM  

Perhaps Disney could draw the non-SJW crowd again by casting Maxine Waters as a mid level but tragic alien character. Pelosi? Jabba the Moore?

Blogger Eli June 26, 2018 6:46 PM  

Hey Vox, I know we haven't received the Faraway Wars book yet, but could that be a potential film franchise that you could create in the future as well?

Blogger Mr. Bee June 26, 2018 6:53 PM  

"I have a pet conspiracy theory that Kathleen Kennedy actually isn't the problem, but she's the designated fall guy."

She's been the designated affirmative action hire for a series of big name directors. She started off as Spielberg's secretary and was brought along for the ride because she could take care of the stuff the directors didn't want to be bothered with. She would probably be fine as the person who deals with the finance end, but she's gotten involved with the creative end and has imposed her politics on it. She isn't anyone's "fall guy". She picked the directors and okayed the stories.

Blogger Starboard June 26, 2018 6:55 PM  

To fix it, they need to fast forward ten years and pick up the storyline of the stableboy who shows evidence of telekinetic power at the end of the last film. Jettison the whole current cast, and have ghost Luke train him. They never used ancient texts or jedi trees before in the movies. Why start now?

There. Done. Episode 8 and 9 were just ill-fated feminist water under the bridge.

Blogger Br'er Shaygetz June 26, 2018 6:59 PM  

I take my kids to the Star Wars 7, 8, 9...simply to experience it on a nig screen...they're on their own for the others. It is comforting though, to see them come around to dad's opinion as the wow factor wears off over time. That slone is worth the price of admission...

Blogger James Dixon June 26, 2018 7:01 PM  

> Star Wars is the greatest destruction of a brand that has ever been done.

In movies? Probably. But Immelt's destruction of GE outranks it overall.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums June 26, 2018 7:01 PM  

"Women ruin everything." - Benjamin Netanyahu circa June 2018

Blogger Mr. Bee June 26, 2018 7:02 PM  

Who cares if Kylo Ren is defeated? Rey did that in the first movie. Who cares if he turns back to light? He'll still be a patricide and besides there will then be no Dark Lord for him to fight.

There's something like 25 million tween girls in the US alone. If Rey "fixed" bad boy Kylo and got busy they'd buy tickets like you wouldn't believe. Disney has a history of pandering to girls, it's what they do best - at least under the last two administrations. They'd have to keep the costs under 300mill but they're already re-running the same computer programs over and over so no big deal there.

Blogger Looking Glass June 26, 2018 7:06 PM  

kapy53 wrote:The only way to save it is make the next film heavily focus on Kylo Ren and bring in that weird 'Jar Jar Evil Sith Lord" fan theory and just go balls out crazy with it. Make the Empire good, make the resistance out to be a bunch of idiots. Have Rey and Kylo a romantic team.

It won't be a conclusion so much as an actual new start for something different.


I'd have gone to see the movie several times if they had honestly gone with Darth Jar Jar. It also isn't a crazy theory, just the unintentional result of what they put in the movie. Jar Jar is actually responsible for a significant portion of Palpatine's rise to power, as he was written in as the plot driver for the first movie anyway.

As for the recent movies, after TLJ came out, the comment thread here gave about 10 different treatments that would have worked 10x better, but we also respect both the fans & the characters within the series. These people hate making money, but they love destroying stuff & virtue signaling the entire time.

Blogger Ceerilan June 26, 2018 7:09 PM  

It's obvious that Disney needs to find someone familiar with the internal politics of LucasFilm, who can identify and eliminate Kennedy's hand-picked acolytes.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 26, 2018 7:16 PM  

That's the easiest thing to take care of. Nate showed you the way.

Mandatory questionnaire:

1. Who hired you?
2. Favorite Star Wars movie?

Blogger doug whiddon June 26, 2018 7:17 PM  

I'd bet that even the little names that Disney hasn't risked have better resumes than Kennedy

Blogger Jew613 June 26, 2018 7:20 PM  

TFA wasnt great but their was potential to clean things up. Cataline suggested this for Luke and I think it would have worked.

"The clock is rewound to just slightly before Rey meets Luke.

Luke looks up and sees the Millennium Falcon flying to his island. He says, "she's here."

Ghost Han Solo is lounging on a rock (probably the new guy since there is no way in hell they got Harrison Ford back). He banters a little bit with Luke about his Young appearance and Luke's old one. There is the vaguely unfair implication that Luke has some choice about how he looks.


Han: I kept my promise. I never told her.

Luke: I know.

Han: Well, I have to get going. (Pause) Hey, Luke take care of yourself.

Luke smiling fondly at a distant memory: you too.
(*Which is how you do a proper call back to an earlier film*)

Rey arrives and offers him the lightsaber. Luke says something like, "keep it you're going to need it." And begins training her.

Obligatory training scenes are shown. The climax of which is Rey finding in a place that Luke had forbade her to go, a tattered old Jedi robe, a rusty lightsaber and a equally rusty prosthetic hand. Luke fades in before her now outlined in Jedi ghost blue. He's been dead for years.

As bonus you can make him Rey's father and he was guiding and watching over her for years. That would tie up why she was so good at everything without trying."

At this point Disney should scrap the newest films besides Rogue One, and do the Thrawn Saga.

Blogger VFM #7634 June 26, 2018 7:23 PM  

"It's obvious that Disney needs to find someone familiar with the internal politics of LucasFilm, who can identify and eliminate Kennedy's hand-picked acolytes."

@Ceerilan
Shouldn't be too difficult: 1) women, 2) gammas, and 3) lambdas.

Blogger Dave June 26, 2018 7:28 PM  

And in other Female SJW news-

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/26/red-hen-restaurant-owner-resigns-as-director-of-main-street-lexington-business-group/#more-151091

Blogger DJT June 26, 2018 7:30 PM  

They should offer it to George Lucas. (I'm sure he would say no.)

Blogger OGRE June 26, 2018 7:32 PM  

@63 Jew613

Thats not half bad. I found the films to be downright awful, but oddly enough I very much enjoyed the entire Rebels series, because of the story and characters. There was some of the grrl power stuff going on but it wasn't over the top or out of place anymore than Princess Leia was. All in all it was just a fun adventure series with an ensemble cast, much as the original films were, and I think that was one of the primary attractions to the original trilogy; there were various characters that different people could identify with so it had a broader pull than a simple Lone Hero's Journey.

Blogger Darwinite June 26, 2018 7:44 PM  

@Cataline <— this. Even though Vox’s take-down of JBP has helped shift me out of my Joseph Campbell phase, I really wanted to find out how Darth Vader’s third act would be resolved in the final trilogy. I wanted to find out how he was going to reunite the dark and light sides of the force, knowing that he had to be killed by his son to get there. The second Lucas sold out to Disney, I knew I’d never get to find out how the story ended, and that the world would never really know that Anakin was meant to be the hero of all nine films.

Blogger Henry Lee June 26, 2018 7:46 PM  

Speaking of giving a large enterprise to a small name: once the chairmanship of AT&T was given to a guy who was running the phonebook subsidiary. He lasted about six weeks and all that was ever said was that he lacked the "intellectual rigor" to run the larger company. It's been a long time so if I got some details wrong please be gentle.

Blogger Henry Lee June 26, 2018 7:47 PM  

I think he went out with $34 million.

Blogger Chris Ritchie June 26, 2018 7:48 PM  

Disney is provably evil. I'm enjoying watching them fail.

"The Schadenfreude is strong with this one..."

Blogger VD June 26, 2018 7:53 PM  

Who’s Kathleen Kennedy?

Joe Rohan's girlfriend.

Blogger Jack Ward June 26, 2018 8:06 PM  

65. Dave

Has the repercussions already hit red hen that hard? Or, are they trying some damage control in advance. It was mentioned today, Limbaugh, that after the Trump folks were kicked out of the hen, a group from the hen followed them to another restaurant they chose to have their meal, harassing them every inch of the way. I don't know about where the hen is located but in this neck of the woods something like that is actionable. Like legally. I would sue the crap out of those idiots. But, that's just me, you see.

Blogger DeeJay June 26, 2018 8:07 PM  

Yeah, there may still be a 'Hail Mary' play here with the Timothy Zahn sequel trilogy. It's been around for decades. EVERY Star Wars fan knows about it, and most have read it. Indeed, during that dry patch between ROTJ and TPM, it was the most significant addition to the Star Wars canon: a Lucas-endorsed, 'official' continuation of the story after Return of the Jedi. Thrawn himself has quite a following, a la Boba Fett.

Meanwhile, Disney bought out Lucasfilm, signed on Hamill, Fisher and Ford, announced they'd be filming a sequel trilogy in an era when big literary adaptations are all the rage (Tolkien, Harry Potter, Hunger Games, etc)... and ignored Zahn's stuff entirely in favor of their own horrible fanfic.

But that's the past.

So re-number TFA and TLJ as Episodes X and XI, respectively: we've seen far worse historical 'Greedo-shot-first' revisionism before in Star Wars. Then slowly lure back the fans with a strict, no-BS adaptation of the Zahn trilogy, utilizing new actors and/or CGI gholas as needed. And muzzle EVERYBODY involved in the production on audience-alienating Current Year political nonsense; nobody gives a fetid dingo's kidneys what you believe Talon Karrde's sexual preferences are, Keanu.

And maybe five years after The Last Command, release Episode XII, with any lingering loose threads concerning what happened to the New Republic, Mara Jade, et al resolved in Disney's otherwise meandering, misbegotten mess. Of course, all the actors there will be over a decade older, but given the non-cliffhanger way TLJ ended, this'll be appropriate.

Blogger Lovekraft June 26, 2018 8:10 PM  

Was there a misprint in the last paragraph of the article posted? Should have read 'Solo' instead of Star Wars.

A good youtuber I've been following lately gives pretty good insight on SWJ activities is The Quartering. Check him out.

The 90s gay era is over. Done. Fizzled out. Overplayed. Ellen Degeneres, the View, Sex and the City, Madonna are all decrepit old hags.

More modern carry-overs like Gaga, Katy Perry and Cyrus have the stench of witchcraft about them.

Will be interesting to see how Kanye and Candace advance.

But as for audiences of good science fiction, it will always be men. Not faggy nerds. Cool nerds.

Blogger WillBest June 26, 2018 8:10 PM  

Episode 9 opens without traditional scroll. Close up on Luke's eyes closed. He startles from a jedi meditative trance. Looks over and see ghost Yoda and says "How can I prevent this from coming to pass."

Ben Solo enters asks if Master Luke is ready for today's training.

Cut to scroll

Blogger Dave June 26, 2018 8:22 PM  

Jack Ward wrote:65. Dave

Has the repercussions already hit red hen that hard? Or, are they trying some damage control in advance. It was mentioned today, Limbaugh, that after the Trump folks were kicked out of the hen, a group from the hen followed them to another restaurant they chose to have their meal, harassing them every inch of the way.


Yes, Treehouse covered it yesterday. Wilkinson followed Sanders to another establishment after they left the Red Hen. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/25/red-hen-restaurant-owner-followed-sanders-family-to-next-restaurant-to-continue-harassment/

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 26, 2018 8:23 PM  

I agree with you. Star Wars has the potential to win almost everyone back. The franchise is to strong and episode 4-6 still exist.

No matter what you think of the prequels (hate, love, whatever) they don't damage the original trilogy.

You can watch all six in order and the adventures of Han, Luke and Leia aren't ruined.

Now imagine watching all eight episodes strong together. The characters that you loved and rooted for all had failed, awful miserable lives. Everything they fought for and the sacrifices they made came to nothing.

Han threw away everything he'd built up, his wife, his son, his career and devolved back to being a low life smuggler and conman.

Luke was an even bigger failure. And Leia buried herself in work to avoid her pain.

Sorry to say it but the original trilogy is severely damaged so long as the third one remains canon.

Blogger DJ | AMDG June 26, 2018 8:25 PM  

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Blogger Dave W. June 26, 2018 8:43 PM  

Thrawn is actually canon since he appeared in Rebels. An actual movie/trilogy of the Zahn stories would be amazing.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 26, 2018 8:45 PM  

George Lucas created magic in 1977 when he set a fairy tale into space with amazing special cinematic effects for the time. He created an exciting, mind-blowing galaxy that viewers ached to join. He created the absolute greatest cinematic villain of all time in Darth Vader, a mysterious, powerful, cunning figure of incredible evil. Yet Vader was also just a minion and slave to a higher power.

Then, Lucas assembled a very charming band of misfits tasked to overcome this powerful evil and save the galaxy, and gave these characters real charm. Viewers wanted to be a part of this grand adventure, they wanted to hang with the rebels and fight the good fight. And what a good fight it was, since the deck was stacked against them and they overcame it against all odds like true heroes.

Lucas called the original _Star Wars_ film 'Episode 4: A New Hope' in the famous opening, which led to the question of why? Originally Lucas admitted it was a homage to the episodic, comic-book nature of the Buck Rogers series. Soon his ego would lead him to state that this was all part of a grand plan, a giant space opera including three trilogies.

This proved to be an obvious lie, as anybody who has seen the behind-the-scenes cuts from the making of the disastrous prequels. Lucas was pulling stuff out of his behind, no question, he had no overarching grand epic of real consequence. At least none that he dared to craft on film.

But this was evident even earlier. Lucas was fixed on the arc of an epic he was feeling out by the second film. _The Empire Strikes Back_ is arguably the greatest film of the entire _Star Wars_ canon, yet the strains of producing at once a self-contained entertaining film and at the same time producing one faithful to the (yet to be completed) announced epic arc were there.

The prequels were a descent into madness and a joke.

Lucas got Disney to take it off his hand, and Disney made the same mistake that Lucas had been in the habit of making. They focused more on the external agenda of the films instead of making a sound film in its own right.

Everything is a rip-off in the prequels and since the Disney take-over. Half of the rip-off is a marketing thing to cash in on merchandising (Jar-Jar Binks). The other half of the rip-off is that the _Star Wars_ brain trust never knew where it was going. From the beginning. Hell, Disney even made the epic arc a free-for-all not only absent a Loremaster but with one who smashed it all to pieces with _The Last Jedi_.

It is interesting to see these internal convos at Disney now. Iger knows that TLJ was a franchise-killer. He knows they have made the franchise a hot, smoking mess, and so does everybody he's appealed to fruitlessly in order to right the ship.

But that's not the public face of Disney, who are trapped in their own lies. They have put it out to the public and to their investors that the problem with _Solo_ was timing, scheduling, Star Wars fatigue, etc. The revelations from the board meeting show they know different.

The revelations show they know what the Great Cataline Sergius has said: They have hit an iceberg.

Blogger pyrrhus June 26, 2018 8:50 PM  

@77 Wilkinson was kicked out of her position as executive director of Main Street Lexington the next day.....Sweet

Blogger Nate June 26, 2018 9:05 PM  

"You can watch all six in order and the adventures of Han, Luke and Leia aren't ruined."

in fact... the scene where Obi-wan gives Luke Anakin's Lightsaber packs a huge punch after you realize Anakin killed 25 kids with it.

Blogger bob kek mando - ( "an entirely disconnected spew of word vomit" ) June 26, 2018 9:12 PM  

5. widlast washere June 26, 2018 4:30 PM
The only Jedi that was not celibate was Anakin, and he went off the deep end largely because of obsession over the woman.


if you pay attention, i think you'll find that when it suits their purposes, the Left will have no problem arguing that ONLY Penis-In-Vagina sex counts as "sex". see: Bill Clinton and the meaning of "is" and whether or not oral sex qualifies as sex for the purposes of an investigation.

also, all sex ( being that PiV is the only 'real' sex ) is rape.

and, within the Star Wars mythos, the problem wasn't sex per se anyways. it was the emotional attachment to your partner that was the problem.

ie - the 50 partners a night in the bath house fag scenario could easily be argued to NOT be 'against' the Jedi ethos.

no emotional attachment, you see.


7. Cataline Sergius June 26, 2018 4:38 PM
And to make matters worse, the production of Episode IX was too far along when Soylo exploded on the pad. It's going to have to be made.


as with the Dollar-Gold peg, this is an entirely arbitrary 'problem' caused entirely by shitty management directives and constraints.

a - push ep 9 production back however far is needed

b - clean house. anybody throwing temper tantrums about Current Year and Muh Gender Fluidity gets kicked to the curb.

c - acknowledge that ep 7-8 have become a complete fustercluck ( mostly because of 8, 7 wasn't particularly good but it was at least a competent rip off of ep 4-5, far better than ep 1-3 ), and declare 9 to be a full reboot of 7 ( 9 of 7? you don't say... )


the main problem with a full reboot being that Carrie Fisher ain't coming back from the dead and Harrison Ford is both too old and has hated Han for decades and probably won't ever come back anyways.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora June 26, 2018 9:16 PM  

Their first mistake was doing away with the extended universe. They should have kept it and tried making original stories within the Star Wars universe. Instead they remade the original trilogy but worse and killed all the beloved characters. This problem might be bigger than SJWs. The feminist and paint-by-numbers racial representation is just the cherry on top.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 26, 2018 9:20 PM  

Let Star Wars die. Don't try to fix it or waste time imagining how it can be fixed. Walk away. Star Wars belongs to Disney now.

Let them keep it.

Blogger Nate June 26, 2018 9:23 PM  

if you gave me the reigns of Star Wars... the first scene of the next movie would start with Darth Maul (complete with creep cyborg legs) would walk out of the shadows and kill Rey... and Kylo would completely lose it and gradually turn back to the Jedi side... as the only way available to him to take down Maul.

He would be working to rebuild the Rebellion... and would fight Maul to stall him while the rebels and their new forces got away from maul's attack. Kylo wouldn't be able to beat Maul though. He'd lose but survive.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 26, 2018 9:24 PM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R6DaN8LU6A&feature=youtu.be

Blogger Ingot9455 June 26, 2018 9:41 PM  

So like, we know what gammas/Democrats/etc would have to do to become decent, valuable people. We also know that almost none of them will ever do it.

We know any number of things that would save Star Wars. (Or at least be a dozen times more fun than what's there now.) We also know that there's pretty much zero chance Disney will do them.

There was already a well-regarded set of Han Solo books AND Lando Calrissian books. If you wanted to steal from them it would have only cost pennies. But no. Soylo it was.

Blogger Stilicho June 26, 2018 9:46 PM  

May the schadenforce be with you

Blogger Alexandros June 26, 2018 10:01 PM  

Nate wrote:if you gave me the reigns of Star Wars... the first scene of the next movie would start with Darth Maul (complete with creep cyborg legs) would walk out of the shadows and kill Rey... and Kylo would completely lose it and gradually turn back to the Jedi side... as the only way available to him to take down Maul.

He would be working to rebuild the Rebellion... and would fight Maul to stall him while the rebels and their new forces got away from maul's attack. Kylo wouldn't be able to beat Maul though. He'd lose but survive.


Please convince Disney to hire you.

Blogger Rough Carrigan June 26, 2018 10:10 PM  

The solution is so obvious.
Disney should do with the film executives exactly what they've done with many of their other employees.

Fire your American employees and, in direct contradiction of the requirements of the H1B visa laws, make them train their foreign born replacements. Just make the top Star Wars film execs the first 50 guys off the streets of Hyderabad.

Blogger JM June 26, 2018 10:17 PM  

Speaking of Disney, I just don't understand why The GE does not force them to rehire all the IT staff who were illegally replaced by Indian H1B invaders. Each former employee should be given his job back, given generous back pay, and paid for his pain and suffering, and each invader should be prosecuted, American assets frozen, and forcibly shipped back to his native country. The Indian internationalist taffing agencies that brought them here should have their assets frozen, too.

This is such an easy win for the GE! Everyone in IT has been through something similar over the past 20 years, and they would all rally behind the GE. Many converts would be won. And Disney would be brought down several notches. It would be a wonderful service to our beloved country. Pray for the GE!

Blogger Thucydides June 26, 2018 10:56 PM  

@92

A Bollywood version of Star Wars would actually be rather entertaining, although there would be the issue of where, exactly, the dance number would fit in-before the space battle or afterwards?

Didn't John C Wright have some ideas of where to take the Star Wars story? I'd like to see that translated into film. OTOH, I'd pretty much like to see any one of his works translated into the visual medium. A long term project for Castalia Studios, perhaps?

Blogger Lazarus June 26, 2018 11:11 PM  

Star Wars.

Clinging to the past is a sign of the calcification of the personality that comes with aging.

Let it go

Blogger bob kek mando - ( "an entirely disconnected spew of word vomit" ) June 26, 2018 11:23 PM  

Red Hen Quiz:
https://2m2l2d2d.blogspot.com/2018/06/your-daily-manjaw-quiz.html

Blogger beerme June 26, 2018 11:39 PM  

The only way to save Star Wars is for Luke to wake up the day after RotJ with the worst hangover ever and write their mess off as a nightmare of a Force premonition. Then start over and create a new continuity that isn't shit.

Blogger Hammerli280 June 26, 2018 11:41 PM  

The only way I see them salvaging the franchise is to formally declare the TFA and TLJ not canon. Withdraw them from distribution. Then sack the entire current management team. Hire J. Michael Scrazinsci (Yes, I mis-spelled it) as producer.

Then pay John C. Wright whatever he wants for the script.

Blogger Garuna June 26, 2018 11:45 PM  

Star Wars is garbage. Aside from the original trilogy, it's all just shitty fan-fiction. The prequel trilogy, the sequel trilogy, the spinoffs, the expanded universe, the cartoons, the comics, the games... It's all just jerking off over the same old shit. It has to be the smallest "universe" anybody ever thought up. And the worst part is that the audience demands more of the same. Like a fix or a fetish.

Just look at all the suggestions for Episode 9. Just more shitty fan-fiction. With this mindset from the storytellers and the fans, Star Wars can never be great again.

The SJW infection simply ensures that it won't even be good or passable again either.

Blogger pyrrhus June 26, 2018 11:55 PM  

@99 My opinion has always been that Star Wars was always just a typical space opera with a few good scenes, watchable but nothing great....Obviously many disagree, but I think that Blade Runner, for example, is a far superior movie..But it has made a lot of money, so Disney's refusal to stick with winning characters (compare the James Bond movies, which remain enormously successful) is obviously the product of disordered thinking. Heh, Disney needs to clean its room...

Blogger S. Thermite June 27, 2018 12:01 AM  

in fact... the scene where Obi-wan gives Luke Anakin's Lightsaber packs a huge punch after you realize Anakin killed 25 kids with it.

Yikes! Ain’t enough Purell in the ‘verse to sanitize that stain.

Blogger Garuna June 27, 2018 12:04 AM  

Star Wars is unsalvageable.

I travel often. And I've been to several countries in several continents. The worldwide normie reaction to these films is "meh". And they're not going to watch them anymore.

Star Wars had a great brand value in 2015. And the mediocre Force Awakens benefited from being perceived as a cinematic event. But each new (mediocre to terrible) installment has tested patience, spent good will, and damaged the brand. Oversaturation made it worse. A Star Wars film is a non-event now. This is actually why "Soylo" bombed even though it was superior to The Last Jedi.

To win back the normies, Star Wars cannot simply go back to making passable fan-fiction anymore. There has to be a string of very good films to bring normies back at this point. And that will not happen.

Blogger Ronin F9 June 27, 2018 12:17 AM  

Star Wars was going down hill after Empire. Ford knew it when he read the script for Jedi. He asked that Han be killed off because the character wasn't going anywhere. This is important because Han was who every man wanted to be and every women wanted to have. The fact is Lucas got lucky with the first movie and the second one had really talented people in charge. The rest of the franchise has been coasting on nostalgia.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len June 27, 2018 12:19 AM  

Randolph says (speculating, I think) that no one wants the job because the Lucasfilm team is divided between old-guard Star Wars people and Kennedy's handpicked loyalists.

What is preventing her "loyalists" from getting kicked to the curb, too? Isn't a wholesale purge the entire point?

Blogger Jack Amok June 27, 2018 12:26 AM  


What next, a remake of "Casablanca" where we end up rooting for the Nazis over Rick and Renault?

You mean Rikki, the female owner of the bar? Her love is still of course Elsa, a strong, independant lesbian fighting for the rights of intersectional migrants trying to get from North Africa to Europe. Her "husband", Lezlow (played by Ellen DeGeneres) is trying to get ahold of security codes that will allow the rescue ship SS Rainbow Showers to land in Taranto with its cargo of huddled masses yearning to breath free Italian cigarettes. Renault, a drag queen police captain, refuses to arrest them as StormTrumpers raid the bar and The Resistance sings a Gary Glitter song to drown out the StormTrumpers stinging the Star Spangled Banner.

Who wants to finance me?

As far as salvaging the Star Wars franchise, forget it, it's done. But... similar to beerme and WillBest: The opening scene is Harrison Ford as Han Solo waking up screaming.

HAN: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

LUKE (bursting through door): "Han. Han! What's the matter?"

HAN "Nightmare. Bad one. Bad dream. No sense. (describes episodes 7 and 8)

LUKE: "That's was more than just a bad dream. I sense a new Sith Lord rising. He's disturbing your dreams with defeatist propaganda. We have to find him."

HAN: "Kid, I just buried my wife. You just buried your sister. Can't someone else save the Universe this time?"

KYLO REN (sticks head in door): "Dad! Dad! Are you okay?"

Blogger Ervin Huntley June 27, 2018 12:36 AM  

How about an workplace comedy about the team of engineers who developed the Corellian YT-1300f Light Freighter?

Blogger Azimus June 27, 2018 1:26 AM  

Rey finds out Ren lied about her parents, and Ren killed them. Rey gets pissed kills Leia. Ren turns good guy kills Rey. There are ways to end well. Truthfully they should consider the "it was all a dream" Bob Newhart-style reboot.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 27, 2018 1:31 AM  

Sure we can call it The Big Bantha Theory.

Blogger Magson June 27, 2018 1:48 AM  

This skit was put out 4 years ago before even episode 7 and it captures pretty well how bad the Disney-fication has turned out -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UgpggCueHE

Of course they also released this skit about a week or so before TLJ came out and it's uncanny how accurate they were in predicting how badly Lue's character got destroyed -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o21dVBqvTxU

Blogger Andrew Wetzel June 27, 2018 2:55 AM  

Jack Amok...

You... Suck... Cannot... Get... Visual... Out.... of my... Head....

Must do.... Toilet bowl Swirlies.... to purge... the PAIN....

Blogger Mega-Buster Shepard June 27, 2018 2:58 AM  

Nah. I don't think it'll recover. The fanbase has turned on them due to their treatment of the ip, as such Disney and their media shills turned on them.

It will die a quiet and ignoble death, deserted by its fans and the general public alike. I'll remember it as it once was, a nice callback to sword and planet fiction on a galactic scale; but I no longer care about it.

We've hit peak Geek Culture friends, it's all downhill from here.

Blogger Dire Badger June 27, 2018 3:57 AM  

I know how to fix the franchise. Kylo Ren kills Rey, but then is so filled with remorse that he becomes light side Jedi to make amends. HE is the last Jedi, not rey.

He founds a new school.

Blogger Brad Matthews June 27, 2018 4:12 AM  

Ren should have beat the hell out of Rey and hideously scarred her face. She could have gone to luke for training and revenge, leading to a dark side twist. Black jar jar should never have been a stormtrooper. Need a cool black character? Could have been a suave son of Lando. TFA was bad. TLJ was one of the worst movies I have ever seen.

Blogger Brad Matthews June 27, 2018 4:15 AM  

The franchise is dead. No one cares about it, the characters, the ships, the toys....nothing. how many chubby Asian and useless black ex storm trooper action figures did they sell?

Blogger Brad Matthews June 27, 2018 4:16 AM  

FFS, I carried a Yoda action figure in my pocket all through grade school.

Blogger Brad Matthews June 27, 2018 4:18 AM  

My grand father let me skip school and we went and saw Empire on opening day.

Blogger Станислав Бартошевич June 27, 2018 5:43 AM  

Outside of Anglosphere Star Wars is maybe not entirely dead, but relegated to the level of inconsequential zombie franchises like Terminator or Aliens (I cannot speak for every country, but such is the situation in Russia and, most importantly, China). While on the premier day of Ep.III theaters were full, audience applauded at key moments, and you could see teens cosplaying as Star Wars characters across the city, Ep. VIII already was met with a resounding "meh". And I've seen its merchandise discounted 50% on the release week.

And not only the movies which fell flat. The Clone Wars TV series eventually won near-total approval from Star Wars' grognard fans, you know, the sort who compulsively collect expensive models, but the series that succeeded it, The Rebels, ended up divisive to put it mildly, and ended with obvious signs of premature cancellation. The general consensus about new books and comics, even on English-language forums seems to be along the lines of "zero improvement from the old Expanded Universe, so ditching it was pointless at best". Video game support for DisneyWars so far has been incredibly scant in general, with the only noticeable offering (Battlefront 2) creating one of the biggest recent scandals in gaming. Tabletop game offering are pretty much nonexistent, with tabletop game creators seeming to be actively trying to avoid any mentions of DisneyWars.

Basically the whole franchise was mismanaged to an astonishing degree. Maybe in USA there are still reserves of old fans who will get back to consuming Star Wars stuff if only Disney puts on a show of contrition and tries to make some gestures towards them. But I'm pretty sure that you will need a succession of at least two high-quality (not merely your average blockbusters that no longer try to offend their core audience!) movies to restore SW reputation, and make Star Wars releases to be events again in the rest of the world.

Blogger Dire Badger June 27, 2018 6:56 AM  

Brad Matthews wrote:My grand father let me skip school and we went and saw Empire on opening day.

My older brother helped me ditch so we could sneak into 'Star Wars' When it (finally) came to the Bolling Base theater.

Blogger Dire Badger June 27, 2018 6:59 AM  

weirdly enough, despite the inclusion of that Negro scientologist hack, Most of Rogue seemed to be a reasonably decent movie.

Blogger Dire Badger June 27, 2018 7:08 AM  

Станислав Бартошевич wrote:Tabletop game offering are pretty much nonexistent, with tabletop game creators seeming to be actively trying to avoid any mentions of DisneyWars.

I play with SW players a LOT, and while a few are willing to accept episode 1-3, not ONE has expressed even the slightest interest in including FA+ into the world... despite BB-13.

Although the 'rogue stormtrooper' plotline actually had a ton of potential before they pissed it away turning him into comic relief.

Blogger Iron Spartan June 27, 2018 9:16 AM  

Darth Mouse only gives a shit about money. The underlings, on the other hand, only care about advancing the narrative. Darth Mouse's baleful eye has now turned to the rot the underlings spread, and it will be interesting to see what come about.

Episodes 4-6 helped Reagan win the Cold War. The underlings were never going to allow something like that to happen again, which is why 7-8 worked so hard to poison 4-6.

TLJ, along with SJW posturing from the cast, poisoned Solo. No matter what the SJW's say, that truth cannot be denied. There is hope that Darth Mouse will live up to his Sith reputation and purge the rot.

Blogger Geoarrge June 27, 2018 9:38 AM  

My preference at this point would be to let the whole thing lay fallow for a bit, then do a clean remake of the main saga. New actors, new score, refresh the art design. Then roll into Episodes 7-9 adapted from the Zahn trilogy. Although it would also be fun to do the Jedi Search trilogy with the Sun Crusher business.

Blogger Dire Badger June 27, 2018 12:22 PM  

Star wars- Obi wan.

Wherin Ewan McGregor reprises his role from "I love you Phillip Morris"

Blogger Dirk Manly June 27, 2018 3:31 PM  

@19

"
A feminized culture has captured Disney there is no hope, from that culture the worst of the worst rule the roost ."

I blame "Disney Princess" syndrome. That's what turned the entire thing into a Lesbian love-in.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 27, 2018 3:32 PM  

@22

"Watching Disney slide into K-Mart-like irrelevance is going to be more entertaining than any books or film they've managed to produce in my lifetime."

And the end of ever-lengthening copyright protection will finally end, and be replaced by something reasonable, like 20 years.

Blogger Dirk Manly June 27, 2018 3:34 PM  

@24

"I can't believe women could be so obtuse that they would even want The Force (God) to be female. If that were to come to pass, the flood of Noah would be a weekly event.."

More like every 28 days.

Blogger Daniel June 27, 2018 4:09 PM  

I thought I was the only one lol

Blogger Daniel June 27, 2018 4:11 PM  

Would be a success. Thrawn is a really interesting character. Al the rebuilding too

Blogger Silent Draco June 27, 2018 5:58 PM  

From the post title, then, Kray-K gets excomunicated and Disney goes under the Interdict? Sounds just fine. The penance will be awesome to watch, but means a huge bag of popcorn.

Blogger tz June 27, 2018 6:29 PM  

I didn't think of the femijedi as a Disney Princess, but it makes perfect sense.

But it is so hard to accept corporate chemo for the corporate cancer.

Disney wishes to remain both SJW and profitable (as does Google, Facebook, Microsoft, etc.). But that is like wishing to remain morbidly obese and healthy.

Blogger Daniel June 27, 2018 7:38 PM  

My thought exactly

Blogger Daniel June 27, 2018 7:46 PM  

+1 for killing rey. Unidimensional boring annoying character

Blogger Daniel June 27, 2018 8:04 PM  

It all went down when they modified that scene when han shoots vader on sight

Blogger Unknown June 28, 2018 12:16 AM  

It seems to me that instead of creating a new story with it's own background and lore, they need to take an established IP and swap the gender of the protagonist(s) - and then blame the people that didn't buy into it for their failure.

Sad, really. They even sjw'd the new Lego movie.

Blogger TalongMan June 28, 2018 6:39 AM  

Only problem is Maul is canonically dead in Rebels. He has final showdown with obi wan and lost

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