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Tuesday, July 31, 2018

Darkstream: How Arkhaven will shake up comics



From the transcript of the Darkstream:

How Arkhaven is going to shake up the comics industry. We've been talking about this a fair amount today on the blog and this was really sparked by discussion of someone saying, "well, you know, what the right-wing needs to do is we need to band together, you know, we need all the creators to team up to create a new Marvel." But the problem is that creators teaming up is not creating a new Marvel, creators teaming up is creating a new Image Comics. And that's not going to work because Image Comics has not been successful overall as a organization. It's not going to work and the reason it's not going to work is three-fold as far as I can tell.

Number one, people on the right are pretty individualistic. They have a tendency to want to pursue what is of maximum interest and value to them at the moment. They don't tend to think in terms of building organizations and institutions, and they definitely don't think in terms of taking over existing organizations and institutions and modifying them to their liking. So that's the first reason. If you look at what is happening already, look at what has happened since we launched the Alt-Hero campaign and set off this whole comics Kickstarter thing, if you look at what has happened, the guy from Diversity & Comics has had a lot of success, Ethan van Sciver has had a tremendous amount of success, you've got folks like Tim Lin and Chuck Dixon doing Trump Space Force, Will Caligan has been doing some other stuff, Jon Del Arroz has done Flying Sparks and he's got another, bigger, project in the works.

If these people were all thinking in terms of institutions and infrastructure, then they would all be working with Arkhaven or Dark Legion, but most of them aren't. Some of them are, yeah, we're going to be publishing Jon Del Arroz's stuff at retail, we're going to be publishing Will Caligan's stuff  too, but everyone else wants to do their own thing.

Now, there's nothing wrong with that! Please understand, I am not criticizing! But what is going to happen is the same thing that has happened in the world of independent publishing, which is that you're going to have a few really big winners, and they're going to do very well, and almost everyone else is going to pretty much go by the wayside and be unable to really do anything at all. And in comics, it's just that more difficult because it's a lot easier to just write a book and put out an ebook on Amazon than it is to put together the various moving pieces that involve the writing, the illustrating, the coloring, the publishing, and the selling. You know, there are people who can do all that - Ethan van Sciver is very clearly one of them - but you're not going to be able to build a publishing company off that. We've already seen this in the world of independent publishing.

Castelli House was supposed to publish Milo's Dangerous. Four times we were told "yeah yeah yeah we want you to publish this," but then they got all excited about the fact that they had a number one Amazon bestseller in pre-order and all that sort of thing, and thought, "well, you know, we will
start a publishing house around it." The problem is that a publishing house involves a considerable amount of infrastructure and a lot of strategic relationships and that sort of thing, and what most people don't understand is that we had this infrastructure assembled since 2014. We did the Alt-Hero
kickstarter in October 2017, so we already had everything in place for more than three years. The kickstarter was just the thing that allowed us to take it to the market, but we already had all the infrastructure in place.

It's also very different publishing other people's stuff than just doing your own thing. Now, I'm not saying that people are not going to be successful. Quite to the contrary, you know some people are going to be very successful, just not most of them. If you look at independent publishing, you look at how well people like Nick Cole and Jason Anspach are doing with Galaxy's Edge, you look at how well a writer like Richard Fox is doing with The Ember War, but that is one-tenth of one-tenth of one percent of all the people who are tempted to play there, and the Amazon marketplace only exacerbates that "win big if you're lucky, most of you lose" situation.

The other reason, the second reason, is that most illustrators can't write. We had this discussion when we first started Arkhaven and I told people not to worry about the art. We had the writing, we had the stories, we had the characters, and as for the art, we were going to improve. People have already seen how we are improving the art and yet those first issues are still selling very well. Why? Because it's the stories that matter. Art is great, the art attracts a lot of attention, I'm not denigrating the art, I'm simply saying that the art is one part of the puzzle, it's one ingredient in the cake, and it's not the most important one, it's just the most obvious.

I think there might be a way for us to add some value at Dark Legion by putting together writers and illustrators and bringing them together to start you know working on new IP, new creator IP, that Dark Legion could publish. Now, I just started thinking about this today, I haven't figured out exactly how the model is going to work. There's always the problem because the artist has more work and it takes him more time, but the story created by the writer is actually more important in the long run, so how do you balance that? You know, what's a fair division of labor there and so forth? I don't know, maybe some of you will have ideas if you're at all involved in that sort of thing.

And then the third problem is that you have to be willing to follow the leader. You don't have to like the leader, you don't have to agree with everything they do. Do you really think that everybody who joneses to get published by Marvel agrees with everything that Marvel's editor-in-chief thinks? Of course not, you probably don't even know who he is or what he thinks! Oh speak of the devil... Ethan's here!

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62 Comments:

Blogger Nate July 31, 2018 11:14 AM  

Why must the Right be so hell bent on reinventing the Wheel?

I mean if you want to create comics.. why would you even want to spend your time dealing with the problems of the infrastructure? Particularly when CH and Arkhaven are sitting right there... offering very good deals?

Delusions of Grandeur. That's my best guess.

Blogger Salt July 31, 2018 11:35 AM  

Wouldn't writers rather have a publisher who's willing to publish them? Going on your own really does suck.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella July 31, 2018 11:38 AM  

Manchester VS Birmingham: centralized, which can break, vs decentralized, which can break multiple times and still keep going.

Executive functioning is a skill. Having people get assigned to work is a skill. It's not the only method, but it is a successful method.

God Speed, may you all flourish and prosper in the marketplace.

Blogger VD July 31, 2018 11:39 AM  

Wouldn't writers rather have a publisher who's willing to publish them?

Not necessarily in the KU era. Of course, what they don't realize is that Amazon is the publisher now.

Blogger Stickwick Stapers July 31, 2018 11:42 AM  

Number one, people on the right are pretty individualistic. They have a tendency to want to pursue what is of maximum interest and value to them at the moment. They don't tend to think in terms of building organizations and institutions...

That's a major reason I went with Castalia House over publishing independently. If my books sell well, I might make a bit more money going it alone, but that doesn't compare with the satisfaction of helping build an institution.

I wonder if part of the problem with the strong individualist streak on the right is the decline of Christian identity and community. Being part of something larger wouldn't have been a priority when I was an Objectivist atheist. As a Christian, however, it is.

Blogger Vessimede Barstool July 31, 2018 11:45 AM  

I still think Milo is his own worse enemy. He has a devoted fan base and should be killing it but ill discipline and dumb business decisions are destroying his brand.

Btw the point about video length isn't about aesthetics, it's keeping your viewers engaged for the majority of your video and avoiding click offs, i.e. attention span. The algo will pick click offs as poor engagement, combine with linking viewers away from YT means the algo will kill a channel. The likes of EVS will do a 2 hour long livestream because super chat. Earning $500- $1000 makes up for the algo suppression and constrained sub growth/ engagement.

Anyway I've been enjoying your streams, great content. Def consider making the thumbnails and titles more clickbaity (nothing wrong with that). If you're discussing some pop culture issue de jour make the most of it, shocktastic title and a celeb pic. EVS (not to pick on him but I note he was on your stream) got a massive sub and viewer spike because Star Wars. There's a ton of Youtubers who made their bones on Gamergate. And the comment about engaging with other YTers on the right is a great idea. Jeremy on the Quarteing is the next Sargon, he's a semi cuck but like EVS is a natural for the medium.

Blogger phunktor July 31, 2018 11:45 AM  

STICKWICK HAS BOOKS???

Blogger Stickwick Stapers July 31, 2018 11:47 AM  

Salt: Going on your own really does suck.

Why, exactly? I have a couple of colleagues who are considering whether to go independent or talk to Vox. It'd be good to have some reasons for choosing CH besides appealing to their sense of community.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope July 31, 2018 11:49 AM  

one reason that those on the right side of the political and social spectrum don't wish to invade and modify existing institutions is that they tend to respect too much the property rights of the original founders and creators. Not the only reason, but it is significant and a deeply held belief.

It just goes against the grain of the mindset to be so subversive.

How I've managed to overcome that mindset in both myself and others who I've gathered to my cause in remaking a couple institutions....
1. Find the original charter and see what the founders originally intended. Then compare to the current mission and see if the current custodians allowed SJW and progressive corruption.
2. Talk to the founder or their immediate family and close friends and discuss what the original intent was, and write it down.
3. Repackage the language and intent into modern language, and MAKE IT RELEVANT to the current situation.
4. Talk about the possibilities of the institution when it is brought back into line with the original intent.
5. Positive. Always frame the return to the original vision not as a return, but a refreshed and renewed and vigorous and positive change for the future.
6. Never let anyone shake your reframe of the intent back to some progressive version. Get as many others as you can excited and involved. Stay on message. Make sure your family is always on message, because they will be asked by the wives and you have to change the attitudes of a significant minority before the shift can begin.

7. Profit.

Blogger Stickwick Stapers July 31, 2018 11:49 AM  

phunktor: STICKWICK HAS BOOKS???

CH published my Astronomy & Astrophysics homeschool curriculum a while back, and then offered me a contract for several science and Christianity books. First manuscript will be submitted soon.

Blogger Salt July 31, 2018 12:00 PM  

Stickwick Stapers wrote:Salt: Going on your own really does suck.

Why, exactly? I have a couple of colleagues who are considering whether to go independent or talk to Vox. It'd be good to have some reasons for choosing CH besides appealing to their sense of community.


Marketing. It's not for everyone. Sure, okay, so you wrote a good book.

you're going to have a few really big winners, and they're going to do very well, and almost everyone else is going to pretty much go by the wayside and be unable to really do anything at all

Blogger Revelation Means Hope July 31, 2018 12:01 PM  

Good heavens, Stickwick, please hurry up! My child is almost ready for your astronomy course and I'd love to see your science books. While Sonlight curricula is a pretty good base, having your materials would be better.

Also, regarding going with a known publisher.... who wants to spend the time and brain power learning all the ins and outs of self-publishing to make sure your stuff is marketed and you are getting the money your intellectual content deserves? Moreover, who wants to keep monitoring it 1 year later, 2 years later, 5 years later to ensure it is still being marketed and available AND the revenue is still coming to you as it should?

It is also a matter of trust. Do they trust Amazon to not change the rules and playing field a few months or years down the road? Let's face it, Amazon is going to shaft as many as it can to make as much $$$ for itself as possible.

A publishing company that establishes a reputation for honesty and consistency is a much better bet in the medium and long term. Your colleagues may be smart, so encourage them to add wisdom to their quivers.

Blogger Dire Badger July 31, 2018 12:01 PM  

Art is weird because while it is not as important as the ideas, aka the story, it is also the biggest point of failure.

It's like the New River Bridge... That bridge is utterly vital, so the idea of the bridge is the most important part, but without the engineering skill it will fail, and fail badly.

I am an illustrator. I KNOW I am replaceable, but I also know that it is my work that marks the difference between success and failure. It's a weird position to be in. I cannot write interesting stories to save my life, but there are some stories that I would probably give my left nut to illustrate (Rod walker's books come to mind)but, without a good idea guy... someone to set up the composition, a better inker than me, an editor, letterer, and someone to bring them all together, it will never, ever happen.

Blogger freddie_mac July 31, 2018 12:21 PM  

@8 Stickwick Stapers
Why, exactly? I have a couple of colleagues who are considering whether to go independent or talk to Vox. It'd be good to have some reasons for choosing CH besides appealing to their sense of community.

Number one reason is that the author will spend a fair amount of time doing business-related things, as opposed to focusing on the creative aspect. Not too bad with one or two books, but this becomes a real time sink for people who are fairly prolific. Instead of cranking out book 27, he needs to spend time working on administrivia: working out problems with Amazon/Kindle, following up with any suppliers (even if the copy editor/proofreader is a friend), etc.

@11 Salt mentioned marketing; essentially, anything that a publisher might do now becomes the responsibility of the indy author.

Blogger McChuck July 31, 2018 12:22 PM  

Re: Cake metaphor. Art is how the cake looks. Story is how the cake tastes. Looks will draw you in, taste will keep you there. Failure at either one will make you shun the maker.

Blogger VD July 31, 2018 12:26 PM  

CH published my Astronomy & Astrophysics homeschool curriculum a while back, and then offered me a contract for several science and Christianity books.

Time to get that into paperback, I think.

Blogger ZW July 31, 2018 12:31 PM  

The culture wars have selected for a certain amount of orneriness among those willing to remain on the right, which, as Vox points out, makes organization difficult.

Blogger electricsheeple July 31, 2018 12:38 PM  

Has Image Comics been converged? What is Vox's take on that company?

Blogger Doomfinger July 31, 2018 12:38 PM  

In a thread on Twitter about deranged and sick people in the comic book industry, I said "let's replace them" and linked this video. 340 impressions, but I think only 5 people watched the video...

I could run around and support all these other people going alone but I don't think I'll bother.

Blogger James Dixon July 31, 2018 12:40 PM  

> Why must the Right be so hell bent on reinventing the Wheel?

Full creative control. The same reason many football coached want to have full control. And the same reason so many of them fail spectacularly when they're given it.

> Why, exactly?

Marketing, primarily. Most people are lousy at it. With Castalia House, the marketing almost takes care of itself because people trust Markku and Vox's judgment.

Blogger James Dixon July 31, 2018 12:42 PM  

> Has Image Comics been converged?

Long, long ago.

Blogger Anno Ruse July 31, 2018 12:50 PM  

> Has Image Comics been converged? What is Vox's take on that company?

If you look at the content of their bestsellers, it's all leftist trash. A lot of sex, much of it "queer". More and more diversity. Popular title "The Wicked + The Divine" is one of those "what if evil pagan gods were real, and sexy" stories.

The stories and art are of better quality than what Marvel does, but not so much better that it makes the work enjoyable to someone not buying into the leftist propaganda. It's like HBO. You're getting a more sophisticated version of the same crap.

Blogger Vessimede Barstool July 31, 2018 12:51 PM  

If you're 'of the right' then by definition you're in a head space to at least appear self sufficient. Asking for help can seem like charity, personally I'd rather be kicked in the face than have someone think I'd take a hand out. What I took from the stream was the importance of utilizing existing expertise and infrastructure and the dangers of underestimating the difficulty of creating your own.

I had a nice chat to Milo when he was in Australia, entertaining and fascinating conversationalist, but all one way which speaks volumes.

Blogger Doomfinger July 31, 2018 12:52 PM  

"With Castalia House, the marketing almost takes care of itself because people trust Markku and Vox's judgment."

I don't think other people understand that simply publishing a work is an automatic sale here. It may take me a long time to get around to reading what I actually buy, but I buy it when I see it, so the money is there.

Blogger Groffin July 31, 2018 1:01 PM  

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Blogger Groffin July 31, 2018 1:05 PM  

actually read some of his original comments about Image: They have been converge, but that’s not what original caused them to fall apart, what caused their first crisis was that their initial workforce was made up of a small group of conservative illustrators who had no talent for story-building, less business acumen than they assumed, and were constantly jockeying for position within the company. He uses them as an illustration of his point that to many right-wing content creators are too committed to self-made success for their own good and most wouldn’t function well in an actual start-up corporation, at least as they are now. They’d all end up wanting to do their own thing, and wouldn’t run a tight enough ship to guard against convergence.

Blogger R Webfoot July 31, 2018 1:22 PM  

On comics, is there a reason the inside covers and last pages of Arkhaven comics are blank instead of including the ads one sees in the ebooks?

Blogger RobertT July 31, 2018 1:43 PM  

Imagine VAn Gogh, Andy Worhal & Picasso forming a company to produce paintings.

Do creatives fly in formation?

Blogger Matrick July 31, 2018 1:45 PM  

I see that David Cole has responded with a hit piece on VD and the alt-right. He's mainly correct in his criticism of the pedo hysteria, but he's showing his true colours as no real ally of the right.

Blogger James Dixon July 31, 2018 1:50 PM  

> I don't think other people understand that simply publishing a work is an automatic sale here.

It's like the old Del Rey line. If Lester and Judy-Lynn del Rey chose to publish it, you could almost guarantee it was worth reading. I'd buy Del Rey books on spec without ever checking. Their judgment was that good. Sadly, that didn't carry over to their successors.

Blogger Daniel July 31, 2018 1:52 PM  

Ha! The company would be deaf to customers, doodle in the ledger and last 15 minutes.

Blogger Matthew July 31, 2018 1:57 PM  

R Webfoot wrote:On comics, is there a reason the inside covers and last pages of Arkhaven comics are blank instead of including the ads one sees in the ebooks?

Yes.

The last page is always reserved for the printer's barcode. If we added a final even-numbered page, you'd then get a leaf with both sides blank (except for that barcode).

Our printer can do duplex covers, but the cost is prohibitive when we're trying to keep the price at $2.99 for an issue.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 31, 2018 2:21 PM  

VD wrote:

Time to get that into paperback, I think.


Yes! I'll order it as soon as it's available.

Blogger SirHamster July 31, 2018 3:06 PM  

Mildly related, some Castalia Direct feedback:

Bought Wright's new book + 4 comics for $4 basic shipping last week 7/24, shipped 7/25, going to get it later today 7/31. Supporting some of the other Alt-Right comics from Antartic Press made me realize the CD shipping price isn't bad for bulk orders. Even ended up cheaper than Amazon thanks to a discount on the book.

A little miffed on shipping time because other people got their orders in two days, but they are probably much closer to the shipping center. My order was TN to West Coast.

Haven't even finished reading my last order of CH books, so no hurry.

Blogger S. Misanthrope July 31, 2018 3:35 PM  

Vox, I believe you recently said that Castalia House is not accepting submissions and that if CH is interested in you, they will reach out. Is that not the case for Arkhaven? Can comic writers submit stories?

Blogger Desdichado July 31, 2018 4:06 PM  

Stickwick Stapers wrote:I wonder if part of the problem with the strong individualist streak on the right is the decline of Christian identity and community. Being part of something larger wouldn't have been a priority when I was an Objectivist atheist. As a Christian, however, it is.
I think it's even more primal for a lot of us. My ancestors have lived in frontier regions since the time of freakin' Hadrian's Wall, and as soon as the English/Scottish border was pacified in the 1600s, they set sail for America and immediately went to the frontier again, mostly, I'm convinced, so nobody would tell them what to do. They didn't trust the totalitarian Puritan Yankees any more than they did the elitist plantation lordlings. Independent and contrarian is just in my genetics, and I suspect for a lot of Right-wingers it's the same; that's a big part of the reason why right-wing ideology is so appealing and left-wing ideology isn't, after all.

Sometimes we overthink this and look for causes that are more complex than simply hbd: "I was born that way" but given that some 80% or so of our behavior patterns are genetically informed, that's often the serendipitous answer. It's *hard* for some of us to band together.

And although I'm not trying to publish anything, finding and getting to know someone with the expertise to complement the business end of publishing can be at least as daunting, if not more, than simply trying to figure it out yourself.

Not saying that it's a great strategy, because objectively and obviously it isn't. But it's going to continue to be a thorn in the side of the Right, probably forever, because the reasons for it are less about choices that we consciously make and more about reverting to our behavioral mean.

Blogger Dave July 31, 2018 4:13 PM  

A little miffed on shipping time because other people got their orders in two days, but they are probably much closer to the shipping center. My order was TN to West Coast.

I think you copied my order; Superluminary and 4 comics however I ponied up another buck and a half for priority shipping. Got it in three days to the East Coast. I'll take priority shipping for $5.49 all day long. I am surprised Ingram doesn't have a distribution center closer to the west coast.

Blogger Mocheirge July 31, 2018 4:19 PM  

Desdichado wrote:Sometimes we overthink this and look for causes that are more complex than simply hbd: "I was born that way" but given that some 80% or so of our behavior patterns are genetically informed, that's often the serendipitous answer. It's *hard* for some of us to band together.

WE WUZ THALZ

Blogger Stickwick Stapers July 31, 2018 5:27 PM  

VD: Time to get that into paperback, I think.

Agreed. Matthew and I are already working on it.

Along with that, I'm doing a serious revision of the biblical supplement, which will also serve as Book 0 in my series.

Blogger VD July 31, 2018 5:28 PM  

Can comic writers submit stories?

Not without an illustrator attached to the project.

Blogger VD July 31, 2018 5:33 PM  

He's mainly correct in his criticism of the pedo hysteria

No, he's not. Not even a little bit.

Blogger John D Alden July 31, 2018 5:49 PM  

Salt wrote:Wouldn't writers rather have a publisher who's willing to publish them? Going on your own really does suck.

Sure, I would, as long as it's a fair deal of course.

Unfortunately, as far as I can see publishers aren't exactly desperate for authors. Almost all of the non-converged, non-magazine publishers I know of and with whom I'd be willing to work have closed submissions.

The handful of non-converged magazines around can only buy so many stories, and besides, I prefer to write longer fiction than magazines want. I have started writing stories specifically for magazine submission calls recently but it's a small fraction of my overall output.

I'm not actively publishing on Amazon yet; all I've done so far is put out a couple stories on Steemit. I'll probably be ready to start publishing for real by the end of the year---I should have at least two novels and a couple novelette collections done by then, with about another million words worth of fiction planned out---and at that point I'll be handling everything myself except for making the cover art.

This is the only open path I see.

I suspect the same is true for most indies. They're not walking away from publishers because they prefer to do it all themselves. They just never had a serious alternative available.

Blogger James Dixon July 31, 2018 5:56 PM  

> Unfortunately, as far as I can see publishers aren't exactly desperate for authors.

True. Also, publishers used to handle editing, formatting, printing, publicity, and distribution. As far as I can tell by what's being published, if you're not one of their "favored brands" of the day (and sometimes even if you are), editing and publicity seem to have completely gone by the wayside.

Blogger Dave July 31, 2018 6:22 PM  

I just posted this on the Alt★Hero Forum:

Vox happened to announce on yesterday's Darkstream [How Arkhaven will shake up the comics industry] that RDR#3 was now on Kindle and sure enough, today it's the #1 New Release in Military Graphic Novel.

I've really been enjoying this series, if nothing else just to see how much more out there it will get!

https://www.amazon.com/Rebel-Dead-Revenge-Running-Devil-ebook/dp/B07FZBNW6Z/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1533074983&sr=1-1&dpID=512eGn1JqSL&preST=_SY445_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Blogger The Observer July 31, 2018 6:23 PM  

If you're 'of the right' then by definition you're in a head space to at least appear self sufficient.

The modern right, maybe. The right which goes back before the Enlightenment readily recognises the organic bonds which hold people together and joins their efforts.

Asking for help can seem like charity, personally I'd rather be kicked in the face than have someone think I'd take a hand out.

Pride. There isn't any shame in asking a brother for help and reciprocating in turn.

Blogger Dave July 31, 2018 7:00 PM  

Is Vendetta going all Deadpool breaking the fourth wall on us? You made check my copy of Chuck Dixon's Avalon #1 to see if she was wearing the Arkhaven Comics Logo on her forehead like in the opening of the OP Darkstream.

Blogger tuberman July 31, 2018 7:09 PM  

Like many, I started out with the two non-fiction classics, "SJWs Always Lie," and 'Cuckservatives," then moved on to many other CH titles, mainly fiction, but several other non-fiction too. Impressed then and still impressed. Just figured intuitively that Arkhaven would be a force.

Blogger Unknown July 31, 2018 8:28 PM  

Fyi playing with your balls would be a better way to spend your time then trolling people. Also plz don't troll me for this.

Blogger D. July 31, 2018 10:54 PM  

ot chutzpah news

The Alt-Right Is Bringing Back AIDS!

by David Cole

July 31, 2018

Please share this article by using the link below. When you cut and paste an article, Taki's Magazine misses out on traffic, and our writers don't get paid for their work. http://takimag.com/article/the_alt_right_is_bringing_back_aids_david_cole/print#ixzz5MtJz0tt5

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey July 31, 2018 11:06 PM  

I hope that I am wrong, but I get the impression that Milo is punching around kinda lost right now. I hope that I am wrong or if I am that he gets his act together.

If I am correct, Milo's example stands as a good argument for why you should never try to re-invent the wheel yourself.

Blogger Quilp July 31, 2018 11:35 PM  

Nice little list of who to support, thanks.

Blogger Daniel Babylon August 01, 2018 1:17 AM  

Do you think putting badass women in comics is kowtowing to feminists or is there a different perspective that I'm missing?

Blogger wreckage August 01, 2018 6:15 AM  

Understanding that atomic individualism is as anti-human and as obliterating of the natural human self as what we term "collectivism" is vitally important.
If you prefer to work alone and are more effective working alone, look for people who can leverage that on your behalf.

Blogger wreckage August 01, 2018 6:17 AM  

@49; what a seething pile of wish-fulfillment and deliberate misdirection.

Blogger MC August 01, 2018 6:28 AM  

OT ... and Tommy Robinson has been "freed"

Not vindicated entirely ... there will be a retrial ... but at least he's going home from his 23 hours per day "protective" solitary confinement for now

Apparently he is the first journalism to be imprisoned in England since 1949 ...


Blogger MC August 01, 2018 6:29 AM  

* Apparently he is the first journalist to be imprisoned for journalism in England since 1949 ...

Blogger Uncle John's Band August 01, 2018 6:36 AM  

@49 D.

The only "chutzpah" is someone as stupid and dishonest as you posting something as stupid and dishonest as that.

If you'd rather not see a liar paid for his "work", the article runs interference for Pedowood by raising MSM-driven Satanism fears of the 80's. That's the "AIDS". Seriously.

Blogger GithYankee August 01, 2018 8:10 AM  

@49 When Richard Spencer was the best employee you ever had, you're platform is in trouble.
A Jew tries to justify protecting a pedophile in the name of free speech, and calls itself a "right wing" outlet. Wow just wow.

Blogger Unknown August 01, 2018 3:49 PM  

I can't reply to any of the threads on the Arkhaven forum. Anyone know why? Is there a vetting period or something?

Blogger Electric Dinosaur August 01, 2018 3:54 PM  

Also ("Unknown" above is me), y'all do take comic submissions?

Blogger VD August 01, 2018 4:33 PM  

Also ("Unknown" above is me), y'all do take comic submissions?

If it's a finished comic, we'll look at it.

Blogger Killua August 02, 2018 5:55 AM  

Speaking of story-telling, I am just reading A throne of Bones. Cool stuff. I am sure Arkhaven will be a big player in the entretainment world sooner than expected. Keep it up!

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