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Thursday, July 12, 2018

Darkstream: Trump, Putin, and the religious war



From the transcript of the Darkstream:

Whether you believe in the spiritual aspect of life or not,  even if you're a rational materialist and you believe that the only things that exist are things that you can see and feel, there is no shortage of material evil that you can see and feel and use to choose the right side. What that evil is is what I call the religion of Neo Babel and the European Union is one of the centers for that ancient religion.  Now this is not a coincidence, this is a painting by Bruegel on the left of the Tower of Babel. That was how he conceived of it, and we don't know what it actually looked like but that was just one painter's idea of it.

Now what is the architectural statement that is being made by the EU Parliament in Strasbourg? What they are very clearly stating in a language that anyone who speaks architecture can understand is that they represent Babel. They are the new Babel, and so the connection that a lot of people don't make, the connection that a lot of people don't realize is that these are the same people who in the U.S. are called neocons. They're the same people who in the old Soviet Union were called communists, Bolshevik,  and eventually, Trotskyites. The difference between Stalinism and Trotskyism in the 1930s was that Trotsky stood for world revolution.

Stalin on the other hand picked up the idea of communism in one country. Now obviously the Soviet Union was not a good place, it was not anywhere you'd like to live, it was a economic contradiction in terms, it was bound to fail. Alexander Solzhenitsyn did a good job of chronicling the evils of Stalinist communism, but the fact is was that once communism ceased to be Trotskyite, it ceased to be the primary vehicle for world revolution. And because of the growing power of the United States, because of the fact that in the United States you had the only surviving industrial economy, you know you had the only global power that had not been destroyed during World War II, that became the center of the world revolution. They don't call it Trotskyism, they called it neoconservatism, but if you read Irving Krystol - he's the father of Bill Kristol, the fake conservative and Never Trumper - the neoconservatives were the heirs of Leon Trotsky, they're the heirs of global revolution, and that's why the neocons are constantly pressing for war with everyone, but they're particularly pressing for war with Russia because Russia has escaped their grasp. They began to lose their grasp on it thanks to Stalin.

Now people didn't necessarily make all these connections because Stalinist communism didn't seem all that different than Leninist communism, and so you know, as you look into this, you begin to see that globalism is not something new. Globalism is the same thing that Trotsky preached, it's the same thing that Antonio Gramsci preached, it is the world revolution. They called it world revolution because world revolution is supposed to bring about global government. Now where this gets religious, one thing that you may have noticed - even those of you who are pagans and hate the cucked Churchians as much as I do - one thing that you may have noticed is that these people absolutely hate Christianity.

They do their best to destroy Christian institutions, they invaded and began to destroy the Catholic  Church with Vatican II, they have invaded every single Protestant denomination,  I mean even the Southern Baptists, who I would have sworn 20 years ago could not be penetrated by these these lunatics, has been. Russell Moore and the people at the head of the Southern Baptist Conference are absolutely globalists, and so you know, when you look at this, you can see very clearly that this is ultimately not merely a political clash, it is a religious war, not only is it a religious war, it is THE religious war.

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88 Comments:

Blogger Dad29 July 12, 2018 8:12 AM  

Nope. They invaded the Catholic Church in the 1940's or just before that. Vatican II was-arguably-the result of that invasion.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville July 12, 2018 8:15 AM  

Trump views Putin as a competitor, not as an enemy. While there is always a winner and loser, competition strengthens both. It's a tide that raises all boats. I look forward to what the GE can hammer out with Putin.

And slightly off topic, I admire the Russian supreme court for ruling to expel the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Blogger Peaceful Poster July 12, 2018 8:27 AM  

Stalin was a good boy.

Blogger Sherwood family July 12, 2018 8:35 AM  

Stalin was a conservative of sorts. He wanted to stop the Leftward spiral that made the Soviet Union of the 1920's bat$#!t insane. And he did it the only way it can be done: seized the levers of power and purged everyone who would not fall into line. Was he a good guy? Of course not. He was a paranoid psychopath. But when anyone tells you that Communism would have been okay in Russia except for that Stalin guy they are lying. CCCP under Lenin was evil and under Trotsky was evil with a side order of evil.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 8:45 AM  

It's infuriating and aggravating to the extreme to see Trump winning on trade, and finally see China being successfully confronted on their corrupt and underhanded ways, then listen to all of the idiot fucking libertarians and their stupid free trade ideas rush to attack him with their "tariffs are taxes on poor people" bullshit.

And they they cheer on their compadres in Congress, all bought and paid for traitors, rush to vote on legislation to require congressional approval to impose national security tariffs.

I hate libertarians and free trade morons so much I can barely see straight. Pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine July 12, 2018 9:07 AM  

"Stalin was a good boy."

Even moreso when you realize that he actually was. Right up until he went to seminary...

Blogger GAHCindy July 12, 2018 9:12 AM  

It's been a real eye-opener watching Russell Moore and, to a lesser extent, Al Mohler click as hard as they have. I thought the Southern Baptists would be the last refuge, but the feminist rebellion going on within that determination has been swift unchecked. Amazing how fast that happened. We're down to a couple of unorganized nondenoms around here for nonconverged worship options, and I'm not sure it won't be a few families worshipping from their living rooms before much longer. Churchianity is the religion of the age. Whether it's hard hearts, or simple naivety, I'll leave it to the SDL to say. ;)

Blogger GAHCindy July 12, 2018 9:13 AM  

Click=cuck, obviously. Proofreading is thmart.

Blogger GAHCindy July 12, 2018 9:15 AM  

And denomination, not determination. Calling it a day, y'all. Yeesh.

Blogger VD July 12, 2018 9:17 AM  

It's been a real eye-opener watching Russell Moore and, to a lesser extent, Al Mohler click as hard as they have. I thought the Southern Baptists would be the last refuge, but the feminist rebellion going on within that determination has been swift unchecked. Amazing how fast that happened.

I first heard about infiltrations in Southern Baptist churches back in 1998.

Blogger S1AL July 12, 2018 9:17 AM  

Vatican II may have been their first triumph, but the Bull of Unam Sanctam was the declaration of the intent.

And the Southern Baptists were corrupted the same way all these other huge Christian denominations are - by the bureaucracy. Every single time, the fight is lost in the most political aspect of the organization, because politics is about compromise and the Church must be about anything but compromise.

Blogger Tim from Nashua July 12, 2018 9:21 AM  

The Globalists must elevate other countries as enemies/competition to the U.S. in order to keep the debt train rolling down the tracks. Money from nothing, get their shiksas for a fee.

Blogger LES July 12, 2018 9:25 AM  

Irving Kristol is considered the godfather of neo-conservatism and wrote a book
Neo-conservatism: The Autobiography of an Idea


The (((tribe))) needs a one world government for the Messiah to come.

Blogger GAHCindy July 12, 2018 9:30 AM  

VD wrote:It's been a real eye-opener watching Russell Moore and, to a lesser extent, Al Mohler click as hard as they have. I thought the Southern Baptists would be the last refuge, but the feminist rebellion going on within that determination has been swift unchecked. Amazing how fast that happened.

I first heard about infiltrations in Southern Baptist churches back in 1998.


I grew up in the far reaches of Appalachia. Took a while to get here. They really were staunch for a long time.

Blogger LES July 12, 2018 9:30 AM  

The Judeo-Christians like the Southern Baptists want to Make Israel Great Again even as the Jews demonstrate their hatred for Christianity.

Blogger LES July 12, 2018 9:33 AM  

And, yes, Irving Kristol was a Trotskyite.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 9:34 AM  

LES,

No shit. We know that here, of all places.

Blogger Peter Gent July 12, 2018 9:35 AM  

There has only ever been one war and one enemy.
Ephesians 6:12 "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavens."
But, they have many supporters, sycophants, and fifth columnists of the flesh in their service.

Blogger Howard Stone July 12, 2018 9:40 AM  

I read a film theory somewhere that Mel Gibson’s Apocalyptico was actually the sequel to his Passion.

Blogger LES July 12, 2018 9:41 AM  

Stg58, Why the hostility? There are new readers all the time. Nothing wrong with a little repetition.

Blogger Peaceful Poster July 12, 2018 9:53 AM  

LES, Stg58 is in a bad mood because of the libertarians.

Blogger Phillip George July 12, 2018 10:02 AM  

10 good men is a minyan/the quorum from which a nation can be built.
Noah and Lot couldn't come up with ten. It was the critical absence of mass. Critical mass in reverse. It kept Israel out of the promised land.

Why mention it? I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert but I can look and see the sun in winter time. Joshua had his day, in the sun He just needed everyone He knew to die. Time did exactly that. So it goes. [kurt vonnegut]


Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 10:07 AM  

I am not a peaceful poster.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 10:23 AM  

Stuart Varney just had a lobbyist slug from the National Retail Federation on his show. This fucker declares tariffs don't work and have never worked. And that tariffs hurt America! I'm screaming at the radio like I'm Tyrone at the horror movie.

Blogger tuberman July 12, 2018 10:25 AM  

Even while many churches have been converged, others are pushing ourselves into greater connections with real religion, and on a humble level. Saying that, we are not humble against these enemies.

There are prayers constantly for revelations of the Truth, and ways to act on that Truth. Then prayers for protection of the forces acting for that Truth.

And, of course, Stg58 is completely on target with the libertarians.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 10:26 AM  

Globalist horse shit!

Blogger Dire Badger July 12, 2018 10:33 AM  

You know it's a holy war because they have decided they are God, and we are convinced that we prefer the real thing.

Blogger Stilicho July 12, 2018 10:44 AM  

You can have free trade or you can have freedom. Choose wisely as they are mutually exclusive.

Blogger VD July 12, 2018 10:56 AM  

Why the hostility? There are new readers all the time. Nothing wrong with a little repetition.

Yes, yes, there is. This is not the place to helpfully restate the obvious for the benefit of theoretical newcomers while annoying virtually all the regulars.

Blogger tuberman July 12, 2018 10:56 AM  

The UK started on the free trade road strongly in the mid 18th century, after the UK banks were comped in 1815. The USA started, in fits and pieces after the Fed was taken over in 1913, but FDR got the ball rolling hard when he placed academics in control of trade in the mid-1930's. WWII saved the USA from economic disaster for a few decades, but it came home to roost. It is free trade that has never worked.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 11:01 AM  

The biggest blind spot I see in libertarian economic thinking is the assumption that supply will remain static; that it will not expand to meet existing demand, or more importantly an increasing demand. There is an assumption that I see time and time again...almost like the feminist hate PlayBook in its ubiquity...that when a force such as tariffs make one product/source of supply less competitive, domestic supply will not increase to exploit that opportunity.

Is it more profitable to raise prices on your existing supply, or to increase your existing supply overall? Steel tariffs made Chinese steel less competitive. Will domestic steel suppliers just raise prices and take baths in their money, or will they increase their production to take advantage in the market correction caused by the tariffs on Chinese steel?

We see the answers all around us. Domestic and foreign steel companies are restarting idled production lines, building new production lines, and even building new plants altogether! So the hypothesis here had the divinepy granted opportunity to see these economic questions play out in real time, and to test them in the real world. Any honest economist should be ecstatic to have a chance to see the predictions either be proven true or false.

Let's also be clear that tariffs are not a tax on poor people by any stretch. This particular claim is odious. A tariff simply equalized the playing field between artificially cheap Chinese steel and domestic steel, which has a different price floor than Chinese steel. The tariffs merely evens the playing field and doesn't allow Chinese steel to undercut American steel. And the side benefit also allows more domestic employment. Hey libertarian geniuses maybe the poor Americans can now get jobs in the steel mills and not be poor any more!

Blogger wreckage July 12, 2018 11:07 AM  

Tuberman, your causality is all wrong. WW2 only saved the USA from near-total economic control by the Trotskyist trade unions and populist socialism. Neither war nor international trade was relevant in that.

Blogger Joeplanet July 12, 2018 11:09 AM  

And of course let's not forget that Chinese steel is purposefully made to be inferior and will fail.
"Nice aircraft carrier you have there, America. Sure would be a shame if something happened to it."

Now replace aircraft carrier with bridge, skyscraper, M1 Abrams, pressurized tanks, etc.

Blogger Matamoros July 12, 2018 11:09 AM  

@1. "Nope. They invaded the Catholic Church in the 1940's or just before that. Vatican II was-arguably-the result of that invasion."

You are a little late on that. The freemasons, marranos, etc., within the Church were wanting a council at least as far back as Pope St. Pius X.

That is why the Pope required and enforced the anti-modernist oath, which was obligatory until after VatII.

He tried to root them out, but most were just driven underground. Read "The Plot Against The Church".

Blogger wreckage July 12, 2018 11:09 AM  

*in that period of recovery.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 11:10 AM  

Joeplanet,

Don't be spilling the beans on Chobham armor composition!

Just joking there but you're absolutely right. It's like feeding your enemy rotten food.

Blogger Matamoros July 12, 2018 11:12 AM  

@11"Vatican II may have been their first triumph"

Actually mainline Protestant groups were their first triumphs what with the World Council of Churches, social gospel, etc.

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 12, 2018 11:23 AM  

Stg58

If a tarrif is a tax on poor people then those same poor people are paying taxes to a foreign government, as is WalMart, when they buy chinese goods.

Doesn’t that make them material supporters of a hostile regime?

No?

Well, the libertards can’t have it both ways. Then tarrifs are not a tax on poor people.

Blogger tuberman July 12, 2018 11:23 AM  

wreckage wrote:Tuberman, your causality is all wrong. WW2 only saved the USA from near-total economic control by the Trotskyist trade unions and populist socialism. Neither war nor international trade was relevant in that.



Where do you not see that it is all interwoven and all interconnected? "....control by the Trotskyist trade unions and populist socialism" is connected to intentional free trade, even though it was not obvious then.

Free trade and the money behind promoters of free trade only happened after the banks were taken over by the Rothschilds, and Elite families on their side. Connect dots,trade unions, socialism, free trade, World Revolution by Trotskyists, are all part of the same process.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 12, 2018 11:35 AM  

"Hey libertarian geniuses maybe the poor Americans can now get jobs in the steel mills and not be poor any more!"

I hate to be the one to tell you this, and I know you hate libertarians, but there are all different kinds of people one might call "libertarian".

One kind is the "left-libertarians" that are noting more than commies who want legal drugs and free sex. Some think they are anarchists but they require massive force for their mandatory wealth redistribution.

One kind is the belt-way libertarians who are just fancy conservative cucks. They have bow-ties too, but they want private garbage pick-up!

One kind is the mini-arch libertarians who want a government the size and power of the one under the Articles of Confederation. They are like the alt-right in many ways.

Another kind is the hard-core right-wing market anarchists who hate government with a passion that passes all understanding. (a little church reference there) We believe most problems could be helped a lot if all property was privately owned and no one had a monopoly on the legal use of force.

The hard right "libertarians" sometimes reject the term "libertarian" because it has been destroyed just like the "classical liberals" had to toss the term "liberal" away after the socialist progressives stole the name.

A good take on what liberalism was in the 1700s and later is told by historian Ralf Raico in this essay: https://www.mises.org/library/what-classical-liberalism

If I can find the energy to post another essay I will send you the link. If my health allows, the essay will be about why the "libertarianism" of Hans Herman Hoppe and the alt-right of Vox Day are very similar.

Love your comments by the way. We almost always agree even though I am a hated AnCap: which means libertarian I think but I have not checked with the central planning committee lately. (there might be a bit of snark in that last sentence) :-)

If this was too long, please forgive me Vox.

Blogger Dire Badger July 12, 2018 11:35 AM  

@STG58-

You forget, Libertarians are, in their soul, global socialists. They are desperate for a Star Trek Future.
What's funny is, that most of the financial offenses lefties accuse right-wingers of are actually held up by libertarians. They believe, deeply, that incorporation and shared liability/privatized profit is the ultimate sort of personal freedom. Nevermind that it's also the ultimate form of tyrannical Oligarchy driven exclusively by the worship of greed.

The Tyranny of Union communism only exists because of the tyranny of conglomerate corporatism... one feeds off of the other, and neither can exist without the existence of the obverse.

Libertarians are the carefully-controlled opposition safety valve for corporate liberalism. "Side with the Unions or side with the conglomerates!". Both are insane.

Libertarians will ALWAYS side with Globalists, because corporations require global access in order to maximize profits and escape from the side effects of the much vaunted Market forces.

Global governance is the only way they can see to make market forces work, because in their world of the non aggression principle humans have no right to protect themselves from predators through non-market forces.

Local governments exist because people have chosen to cooperate to protect themselves from bands of rapacious roving opportunists. Libertarians side with the opportunists, and feel that with a world government those opportunists will finally be able to stick it to those damned independents that refuse to 'get with the program' of paying danegeld.

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 12, 2018 11:37 AM  

That’s kind of funny as every non-cucked protestant I ever met thinks the World Council of Churches is a Vatican counter-reformation plot.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 11:43 AM  

Dire Badger,

Why do you think I hate them so much?

Mark Stoval, familiarity breeds contempt. I've known all those varieties you laid out over the years. They have tried to recruit me to the party, no doubt to get me to run for political office as a libertarian. I'll have none of it.

I know there are different flavors of libertarians. Guess what, you're all painted with the same brush. Paint color: crazy.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 11:44 AM  

You can Google me or click on my screen name to see how long I've been around, how many idiots I've dealt with and how many libertarians I've known.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia July 12, 2018 11:51 AM  

VD wrote:

Whether you believe in the spiritual aspect of life or not, even if you're a rational materialist and you believe that the only things that exist are things that you can see and feel, there is no shortage of material evil that you can see and feel and use to choose the right side.

Bravo.

VD, it's your blog and you can choose how not to suffer fools gladly in your own inimitable way, but keep in mind that others who are not practising Christians, or not Christian at all, and who tend to have a materialist/traditional science bent, absolutely agree with you about the globalist evil and your alt-right principles.

For example, guys like me.

I was raised a Protestant in a working class neighborhood, went to church every Sunday, was an altar boy. I am glad I was raised that way. But the last time I was at a church was years ago during a funeral. Being raised a Christian does inform my character to some degree I can't really ascertain, but I nkow it's there.

But a Christian today? Not really.


Blogger benedictsanctus July 12, 2018 11:56 AM  

If you want to get an idea of how bad and far the infiltration of the Catholic Church hierarchy is listen to Ann Barnhardt's latest podcast (#055).

I believe that all institutions of power in the West are this bad.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 12, 2018 11:59 AM  

@44 Stg58/Animal Mother

"They have tried to recruit me to the party, no doubt to get me to run for political office as a libertarian. I'll have none of it."

How that is funny. The "Libertarian Party" is not libertarian. They ran a presidential ticket made of a two clowns who did not know who Murray Rothbard was. Too funny.

I am glad you know there are different flavors of the beast, and most are dead wrong on many things. Mises, Rothbard, and Hoppe are the real deal, not those idiots at Reason, Cato, and the LP.

A short essay that you might like. No, really you might.

http://austrolibertarian.com/mises-hoppe-rothbard/


However, I must move on now. Have fun.

Blogger Jehu July 12, 2018 12:14 PM  

Whacking Trotsky was the one good thing Stalin did.

Blogger VD July 12, 2018 12:14 PM  

VD, it's your blog and you can choose how not to suffer fools gladly in your own inimitable way, but keep in mind that others who are not practising Christians, or not Christian at all, and who tend to have a materialist/traditional science bent, absolutely agree with you about the globalist evil and your alt-right principles.

I am aware of that. I welcome all allies to the nationalist cause. The problem is that until you are able to accept the reality of the spiritual level, you will never be able to attack the enemy's core. After all, you can't target what you can't see.

That's why I tend to focus on the materialist case rather than the spiritual one.

Blogger Dire Badger July 12, 2018 12:43 PM  

I like that. "How can you fight evil when you don't believe it exists?"

Sounds like the core plot of a supernatural horror book.

Blogger Gritón del Desierto July 12, 2018 12:58 PM  

What about having a "If You're New Here" section with a selection of tour best articles,Vox?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 1:03 PM  

Did you miss the "Dark Lord of Evil" bit, Griton?

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Blogger James Dixon July 12, 2018 1:16 PM  

> Just joking there but you're absolutely right. It's like feeding your enemy rotten food.

Don't get me started on chains like Walmart and Kroger importing food from China. I can go off the rails on that one. In general if it says it's from China, Indonesia, or Vietnam, it gets thrown (and I do mean thrown) back.

Blogger justaguy July 12, 2018 1:18 PM  

While many libertarians go too far and cannot seem to grasp the idea of nationalism or any type of property rights in nationhood for the population, it seems to me that the "libertarian economics" by Mises and Hayek and their predecessors are the closest to any actual economics I've found. As politics/power kills any academic branch it touches, the statist killed economics decades ago to justify their large statist intrusions into the marketplace.

Blogger Latigo3 July 12, 2018 1:23 PM  

I love this Vox. I just sat here and played it, mainly for my wife and the whole time she was doing work and listening. Keep these up, because there are those who are not big readers (like my wife) that can grasp what you are saying in video format.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 12, 2018 1:40 PM  

Yeah, it goes back to the 30s, possibly 20s. See Bella Dodd, Manning Johnson's HUAC testimony, etc.

Another factor (that overlaps considerably with Communist influence) was the influence of "converts."

http://forward.com/opinion/159955/converts-who-changed-the-church

Blogger HoosierHillbilly July 12, 2018 1:58 PM  

@47 We all agree that this "right wing" libertarianism an-cap thing would work in 1760s America. Homogenous, Christian population, agricultural, with room to expand when conflicts arise.

That world is gone and ain't coming back. So time to quit riding the dead horse.

Blogger Durandel July 12, 2018 2:04 PM  

@ Mark Stoval - Flavors of Libertarian are like variously painted feces. Scratch the paint and you find the same crap underneath. Error is error, no matter it’s flavor, and deserves to be corrected.

@ Vox - the transcript is missing a bunch of parentheses. Fantastic video! Though as the others said, Vatican II was the victory, not the beginning of the infiltration. Bella Dodd, former president of the Communist party of America made it clear when the infiltration took place. And the commies were also behind Liberation Theology.

Blogger HoosierHillbilly July 12, 2018 2:05 PM  

@57 it goes back to before time. Same soup, New bowl.

Blogger Ronin F9 July 12, 2018 2:43 PM  

Trotsky collaborator Christian Rakovsky confessed to his NKVD interrogators that the Trotskites and their employers considered Stalin to be a Bonapartist that hijacked the revolution for his own ends. Rakovasky also claimed the Trotskites worked for the Globalist Bankster Cartel headed by the Rothschild Crime Family. Rakovasky's interrogation was chronicled and published in the book "Red Symphony". Fact or fiction the book is very illuminating.

It can be read for free here -

https://archive.org/stream/RedSymphony/RedSymphony_djvu.txt

Blogger Major Styles July 12, 2018 3:10 PM  

Most prominent communists in Russia were Jewish (Kagonovich, Cohn, etc.). And, as we all know, the communists in Russia were philosophically against the Church. OR stated another way, when the Jews gained power in Russia, they sought to eradicate Christianity.

See how easy it is to play connect the dots? You don't even need a Women's Studies degree from Berkeley or anything...

Blogger Dirk Manly July 12, 2018 3:33 PM  

@50

>I like that.
>> "How can you fight evil when you don't believe it exists?"

> Sounds like the core plot of a supernatural horror book.


It's in development.


The first chapter is called /pol/
The 2nd chapter is called Podesta's Emails.
The 3rd chapter is called Pizzagate
The 4th chapter is called FBIAnon
The 5th chapter is called The God Emperoro
The 6th chapter is called Qanon and the Drops

Blogger Dirk Manly July 12, 2018 3:35 PM  

@54

"Don't get me started on chains like Walmart and Kroger importing food from China. I can go off the rails on that one. In general if it says it's from China, Indonesia, or Vietnam, it gets thrown (and I do mean thrown) back."

If you don't buy that food, millions of Chinese kids will starve to death!!! [/crazyfemalerelative]

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2018 3:50 PM  

wreckage wrote:WW2 only saved the USA from near-total economic control by the Trotskyist trade unions and populist socialism. Neither war nor international trade was relevant in that.
You imply disparity where none exists.

Mark Stoval wrote:Another kind is the hard-core right-wing market anarchists who hate government with a passion that passes all understanding. (a little church reference there) We believe most problems could be helped a lot if all property was privately owned and no one had a monopoly on the legal use of force.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2018 3:55 PM  

Mark Stoval wrote:Another kind is the hard-core right-wing market anarchists who hate government with a passion that passes all understanding. (a little church reference there) We believe most problems could be helped a lot if all property was privately owned and no one had a monopoly on the legal use of force.


Because you are desperate to surrender to / be enslaved by the most organized and popular thug?

I mean, even a modest perusal of history going back to the 15th century, let alone pre-Roman Europe, will teach you this lesson. Organization and ruthlessness will beat independence and rugged individualism every damn time. The guys at the Alamo LOST. It wasn't Davy Crockett that beat Santa Ana, it was Sam Houston who organized an army that was able to beat Santa Ana.
And an army is about the least Libertarian organization possible.

Blogger Nick Siekierski July 12, 2018 4:09 PM  

At best Putin is a "Neo-Tsar" like the title of the Darkstream, another in a long line of Russian imperialists. If he was a warrior against globalism and for nationalism, he wouldn't be trying to screw nationalist, Christian Eastern Europe through Nord Stream II in alliance with globalist Germany. Because his interests diverge with the globalists in some areas doesn't make him a natural ally. Hopefully Trump can deal with him, but there's no evidence that Putin is a good faith actor towards the West.

Stalin had different ideas than Trotsky, but he certainly did not give up on global hegemony, though he may not have called it a world revolution. He sought a conflict between the Third Reich and the U.K./France ("let's play you and him fight") which would weaken them, leaving the Soviet Union at full strength to come in for the kill. The generations-long efforts of Soviet intelligence to infiltrate and undermine the West are well documented in research on the Venona project by Harvey Klehr, Herbert Romerstein and M. Stanton Evans, among others. Harry Dexter White, the senior American and architect of the postwar financial order at Bretton Woods was a Soviet agent. Modern globalism was a product of Rooseveltian leftism (what Burnham described as Managerialism) and Stalinist-Soviet influence. https://infogalactic.com/info/Harry_Dexter_White

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2018 4:19 PM  

Nick Siekierski wrote:If he was a warrior against globalism and for nationalism, he wouldn't be trying to screw nationalist, Christian Eastern Europe through Nord Stream II in alliance with globalist Germany.
A nationalist looks out for his own nation first. Which is exactly what Nordstream is trying to do, take the European kill switch out of the hands of a bunch of (((corrupt US apparatchiks))) and the murderous Nazi thugs of Ukraine.

If Putin were to start looking out for the interests of his Slavic Little Brothers, like you apparently want him to, that would be at best Internationalism, or more likely given Russian history, Imperialism. neither of which, you will note, is Nationalism.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) July 12, 2018 5:05 PM  

What is with the Strange New Respect for Stalin in the comments?

Blogger Mark Stoval July 12, 2018 5:13 PM  

"Because you are desperate to surrender to / be enslaved by the most organized and popular thug? ... it was Sam Houston who organized an army that was able to beat Santa Ana.
And an army is about the least Libertarian organization possible."

----
The army of George Washington and the army of Sam Houston were not those of a NATION-STATE. There is nothing inherently against the AnCap political philosophy by having an Army. In fact, private defense is at the hart of the philosophy. Nothing non-AnCap about the boys who fought the invading god damn Yankees in the war of northern aggression either.

But I'll leave it here as I don't really have the time or inclination to debate the matter today. Suffice it to say that the idea is no Nation-State. I assume everyone here knows what the definition of nation state is.

I wrote about "1,000 years of Irish Anarchy" and then linked to a second post about perhaps 9,000 more years of anarchy. see: https://markstoval.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/1000-years-of-irish-anarchy/

By the way, has the nation-state idea led to any deaths, slavery, tyranny, and so forth? Asking for a friend.

---- And one last thing, the people who think the NAP (the golden rule) is a suicide pact don't understand it. The NAP just means I will not start shit with others for no reason --- but I will attempt to kill that man that fucks with my family or tribe.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2018 5:33 PM  

The NAP is not "the golden rule". your facile equation is just more proof of your self-delusion.

Tell me, Mr An-Cap, just how you enforce the NAP with your army? Without violating the NAP I mean.

And Irish history? the Irish history that involves the unrestrained power of the nobility to rape, plunder and murder commoners without recourse? The Irish culture that codified statutory value of a peasant as less than that of a cow? The Irish history that was nothing but bloody raid after bloody raid for tens of thousands of years? The Irish history that included mass human sacrifice to the demon god Crom Cruach? Are you sure you want to go with that Irish history, Sparky?

The world as a whole, and Ireland in particular was a bloody enslaved horror pit for most of history, and it was only with the imposition of Christianity and the rule of an impartial law that that even began to think about changing.

Blogger staff July 12, 2018 5:36 PM  

Did not read the two short posts did you? Oh well.

And you clearly don't understand what the non-aggression principle is.

We are done.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 5:37 PM  

The NAP can't repel a demographic invasion, so it's fucking useless.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 5:40 PM  

Militant libertarian morons. My favorite, needs salt.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 12, 2018 5:41 PM  

@72

That was me. I am doing school work and that happens sometimes. Karma I guess as I should not be talking with the uninformed while doing work.

Blogger Dad29 July 12, 2018 5:55 PM  

And of course let's not forget that Chinese steel is purposefully made to be inferior and will fail.

Already happened. The owner of the Milwaukee Brewers, Bud Selig, bought the structural steel for a new stadium from Commie China.

EVERY PIECE had to be X-rayed and then re-inforced/heat-treated at a local major equipment manufacturer.

Not exactly a "cost saving."

Blogger Dad29 July 12, 2018 6:01 PM  

You are a little late on that. The freemasons, marranos, etc.,

Bella Dodd testified that the Communists had placed 1100 men into seminaries in the 1930's.

The question of Masons (etc.) is not the same as the question about Communists that VD raised. Granted, however, that the Masons have had members in very high positions in the Church, certainly in Europe, most likely here in the USA.

But European Masonry is far more virulent than that of the USA--so far.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2018 6:01 PM  

staff wrote:And you clearly don't understand what the non-aggression principle is.
I was arguing the NAP when you were still shitting your diapers. Which bears a strong resemblance to your posts, come to think of it.

We are done.
"I am unable to defend my assertions."

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 6:04 PM  

NAP VS HIJRA: GO

Blogger Mark Stoval July 12, 2018 6:19 PM  

"I was arguing the NAP when you were still shitting your diapers"

That is a lie, unless you profess to be in your late 80s.

Come to think of it, most of your stuff is just just like that lie. All bluster, no thought. Sort of worthless.

I gave you an example in this reply of the NAP in action but decided that I would save Vox the trouble of saying something about it. So, In a few days I'll let you know where you can see the reply --- along with teaching your ignorant ass about real right wing populism ancap style.

And you are not worth another word today. Have the last word, apparently you have no other worth these days.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 12, 2018 6:33 PM  

1) AnCap is not Right wing. It has never been and cannot be. Above all, the Right is based in reality, in people-as-they-are. AnCap is a Utopian fantasy that ignores human behavior and the entirety of human history, and instead pretends that everyone in the world will act and react like Middle-class American Suburban College Graduates.
2) making your AnCap paradise will require the deaths of probably 60% of the population. Either you will find a way to redefine your contemptible NAP, to allow you to do violence to those who refuse your system, or you will be overwhelmed in short order. Your choice.
3)AnCap may be the member of the Libertarian Clown Parade with the biggest shoes, the honkiest nose, and the molestiest smile, but it's still a Clown Parade.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 12, 2018 7:41 PM  

Trump's interview in The Sun was brutal savagery. He hit May and Khan everywhere he could. Top of Drudge.

Blogger S1AL July 12, 2018 7:49 PM  

"What is with the Strange New Respect for Stalin in the comments?"

This is rhetorical, right?

Blogger Ian Stein July 13, 2018 1:32 AM  

Bill Kristol is an arrogant, pompous, pansie always looking down his nose at Americans. He should be run out of USA on a rail. We have no use for him or his ilk.

Blogger bw July 13, 2018 9:32 AM  

Virtue signaling vs. the fake NAZI NASA and moon landings? Sweet.
I'm sure @VD pulls his suticase MoonStang and GoodYear 37's out from under his desk daily as he goes out.

Blogger Greg Hunt July 14, 2018 1:09 PM  

Holy smokes! I learn something new every day.

Robert Howard wrote that his Cimmerians were the ancestors of the Irish. Crom! Adds yet more depth to the Conan stories.

Blogger Greg Hunt July 14, 2018 1:12 PM  

I can't find anything on Hijra other than Indian transgenders. What's it mean in your context?

Blogger Tanjil Bren July 14, 2018 6:09 PM  

Thank you, Vox, I enjoyed this Darkstream very much.

(With several belly laughs scattered among your ever thoughtful insights as an added bonus.)

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