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Wednesday, July 25, 2018

David Cole defends the pedojokers

It's just ever so shocking to discover another (((conservative))) defending the right of depraved Hollywood freaks to repeatedly "joke" about pedophilia and molesting children:
Last week, everyone’s favorite alt-right troll, Mike Cernovich, decided he’d had enough of Gunn’s two-bit leftist moralizing. So a-diggin’ he went, and he unearthed all those nasty old tweets. And Disney promptly fired Gunn from the next Guardians of the Galaxy installment. Gunn canceled his appearance at the San Diego Comic-Con (the Cannes of nerd-dom), and his future in the business is very much in doubt.

Moved by the peine forte et dure, Gunn apologized and begged for forgiveness. But seriously, does that ever work anymore? Of course not. The man’s toast. And his fate has divided the right into four camps:

(1) The Pizzagaters. These nuts believe that Gunn’s public tweets prove there’s a top-secret, organized cabal of pedophiles in Hollywood.

(2) The Moralists. Their deal is, “Rape jokes are never funny! Pedo jokes are never funny! Firing Gunn was the right call.”

(3) The Schadenfreuders. “The bastard got what he deserved for cheering when the same thing happened to Roseanne. Maybe if enough lefties suffer because of these witch hunts, they’ll finally stop doing it to us.”

(4) Me. I’ll get to that in a minute.
(1) It's not a secret. There is a disturbingly large population of pedophiles in Hollywood. Everyone there knows who they are, including David Cole. While Gunn's jokes don't prove the existence of an organized cabal, based on his "jokes", his recent movie that featured a pit containing the remains of tens of thousands of children murdered by their father, and his various pictures posted on social media featuring pizza, crying children, and other symbols known to be utilized by pedos, it appears that Gunn was, at the very least, conversant with that particular collection of evil freaks.

(2) David Cole doesn't understand what morality is. The deal of the moralists are that pedo jokes are always wrong, whether they are funny or not. But whether that is true or not, being funny does not absolve one of the immorality of ones words and deeds. To be forgiven for sin, one must repent, not produce a sufficiently amusing wisecrack. From the moral perspective, firing Gunn was the right call, whether one happened to find him to be funny or not.

(3) Gunn did get what he deserved. Having been banned from Twitter for absolutely nothing at all and having my livelihood directly affected by the speech and thought police, I have absolutely no pity whatsoever for someone like Gunn losing his job. Reprisals are always justified whether they are successful in convincing the enemy to abandon the tactic in question or not.

(4) He never got to it.
When a major leftist A-lister like Gunn is punished for speech, the right goes “Serves you right! Sweet revenge!” But the general public, and other figures in the entertainment industry, go “Oh shit, if that can happen to him, I’d better shut the hell up and never say anything even slightly controversial.” So go ahead, cheer James Gunn’s destruction. You want Europe? That’s how you’ll get Europe. People scared to speak freely, people frightened to crack a joke. If that’s what you want, I don’t care if you’re on “my side.” Fuck off. 
Everyone in the center and the Right was already doing that. Submission is not better than resistance and reprisal. And as one who has lived in Europe for decades, I can attest that Europeans feel considerably more free to make controversial statements than anyone in America does.

We're not on your side, David. And we know perfectly well that you're not on ours. You're not fooling us at all. Free speech is an anti-Christian fraud, it always has been, and the West will do very well to revive and restore the historical blasphemy laws. Since the idea of no standards is clearly not tenable, it will be much better to abide by the historical standards of civilized Christianity than the ever-mutating standard of social justice.

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Blogger Don't Call Me Len July 25, 2018 5:49 AM  

If many more people in many walks of life were inclined "to shut the hell up", that would really be a big net positive for the world.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 25, 2018 5:58 AM  

@2 .... especially those walks of life known as "the arts"

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 25, 2018 6:00 AM  

Kind of a simple rule, really:

Pedo defender?

NOT on my side!

Blogger James Dixon July 25, 2018 6:01 AM  

Long time readers of this blog probably know that I have a tendency to give everyone the benefit of a doubt, sometimes to a fault. The main exception I make is for obvious liars (hi there, Desillusionerad).

In this case, even if I thought Cole was being absolutely truthful with his statements, which I don't, there I'm not willing to do so. He's directly supporting the normalization of pedophilia. He can go to hell.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 25, 2018 6:07 AM  

Well, David Cole is a jackass.

Gunn deserved to be fired by Disney, as Disney has enough trouble now without defending a pedo. Anyone who does defend that disgusting pedophile is himself a bestial piece of crap.

Vox Day was tossed off Twitter for no reason at all other than the leftists could never best him in a duel of words. THEN SpaceBunny got tossed off for saying "you are stupid" to some stupid bitch who had harassed her over the course of a day. For using the word stupid? Give me a break.

But lefties? They can say any damn thing at all. I have seen tweets that are illegal since they call for the assassination of the president. I have seen lefties say the most horrible of things to "plain folks" also. We are talking major hypocrisy here.

The alt-right will need to purge the fake-right types or they will destroy the term as has happened with so many other terms. Vox Day is sure doing his part. Good on him.

Blogger Sherwood family July 25, 2018 6:09 AM  

The pedos need to realize that they have nowhere to hide. I am an old time classical liberal by inclination. I do not like the idea of being the thought or speech police. But...since we already have thought and speech policing going on, agreeing and amplifying that tendency by getting people fired who support pedophelia gives me absolutely no pause. If they can hound people out of their jobs for having donated to a political cause as a private citizen that they disagree with so much the better to hound them out of their jobs for making sick jokes about pedophilia. And those gutless, worthless, scumbags who defend the rights of pedo-jokers to say what they will but who wanted to shut up people for things like "racism" or other "wrongthink"...those guys should get hounded out along with them.

Blogger I DontTroll July 25, 2018 6:10 AM  

I have no clue who this actor is, but Isaac Kappy comes out against pedophilia: https://youtu.be/QKoEpjCH6ek

I am skeptical. He gives me a lesser demon vibe.

His pinned tweet: https://twitter.com/IsaacKappy/status/1021143964877971456

So $250k is too paltry a sum to abuse children. Is he looking for a better offer or something?

Blogger unseen 11 July 25, 2018 6:21 AM  

So "A History of Freedom of Thought" is a good start to learn about how Free Speech was used to undermine Christian Blasphemy laws? I'm interested to learn more about this as you're the first person I've ever seen to raise this argument against freedom of speech, it's always been presented to me as the ultimate good in the west even though USA is the only place who actually has it.

Blogger Duke Norfolk July 25, 2018 6:36 AM  

I've come around to your thinking on free speech, Vox, as I've come around on religion and Christianity.

This is such a stark issue for me. Any defense of this kind of evil filth is evil itself. Whether it's because they're involved themselves, or they've just been so inured to it by the degeneracy of our times, I don't care.

They need to be harshly sanctioned by society. And if they continue they're liable to be hanging from a lamp post somewhere.

And that's the defenders. The likes of Gunn better watch out for the pitch-forked crowd - right now.

Blogger Avalanche July 25, 2018 6:38 AM  

I wonder how much of this: "pedo-jokes are NEVER funny" (I concur 100%) is an r/K thing?

Since we are designed to protect children (even, alas, those NOT of our subspecies / i.e., of our enemies), we do not find "jokes" about harming children to have any acceptable 'use.'? The r's see them as just another object with no particular intrinsic value, so why not?

Blogger Duke Norfolk July 25, 2018 6:39 AM  

It really is good that we've got this issue out in the open now and the defenders are outing themselves. People are no doubt having their eyes opened; a red pill indeed.

So please, keep outing yourselves, pedos (and defenders). It will make it all the easier to round you up.

Blogger CoolHand July 25, 2018 6:41 AM  

VD wrote:David Cole . . .

Who?

Up until this very moment, I'd never even heard of the guy.

I'm sure he's super influential and with this single article has turned the tide of right wingers fighting back.

It's all over now, gents. Might as well just go home. Ms Cole has spoken.

Blogger JD Curtis July 25, 2018 6:41 AM  

There is no right/left component when it comes to denouncing such horrific "jokes". They're just flat out WRONG no matter who engages in this sick, demented activity.
Why can't people see this?

Blogger Brad Richards July 25, 2018 6:44 AM  

"the West will do very well to revive and restore the historical blasphemy laws"

VD has called for this before, however, religious rule has a pretty dismal historical record. The success of the West comes not only from its Christian heritage, but also from secular law and democratic rule. Government by religious zealots is the short road to totalitarianism.

Blogger Avalanche July 25, 2018 6:45 AM  

David Cole wrote at the link:
Kooks like Cernovich are contributing to the cycle of reciprocal accusations and firings. Leftists are not going to respond to the Gunn firing by saying, "Dang, these witch hunts have gotta stop." Rather, everyone will respond by saying, "Shit, now I really have to watch my words."

This, from the guy who had to fake his own DEATH to hide out for years from the (((Holocaust-mafia))) after he disproved a bunch of their lies and exaggerations? Is this a blind spot, PTSD, or has someone got him by the short hairs (again)?

Blogger Uncle John's Band July 25, 2018 6:47 AM  

Pay attention to the framing of the argument. The pedo defenders are making the case that a private organization is wrong to disassociate with someone either it, or a sufficient portion of its customer base, finds morally repugnant. But they misrepresent it as an abstract exercise in "principles" that are never coherently defined. They are very careful never to quote an actual tweet, lest people see what Disney should be compelled to hire in the name of a "free speech" principle that never applied to private organizations. It would appear the incoherence is simply a euphemism for normalizing pedophilia.

Note also the smarmy blend of willfully uninformed ridicule and faux reasonableness. If anyone wondered how evil the cucks actually were...

Blogger Dirk Manly July 25, 2018 6:47 AM  

I don't think he's looking for a better offer -- the vibe I got from that tweet was that he was insulted that he would "offer" him the ch sell himself into hell for a measly $250k in compensation -- that he has so little self-respect that $250k and a dream car would be even worth considering.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 25, 2018 6:49 AM  

"Ben Shapiro Loses Debate Defending Disgraced Perverted Disney Director James Gunn"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/ben-shapiro-loses-debate-defending-disgraced-perverted-disney-director-james-gunn/

"It’s a question many are asking, what additional information does Disney have on Gunn?"

Blogger Uncle John's Band July 25, 2018 6:49 AM  

@13. JD Curtis

"Why can't people see this?"

The likes of Cole do. They are attempting to change that reaction. That's the point of normalizing perversion of any kind - to reprogram moral response to permit something they favor.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 25, 2018 6:53 AM  

@13


"There is no right/left component when it comes to denouncing such horrific "jokes". They're just flat out WRONG no matter who engages in this sick, demented activity.
Why can't people see this?"

Since the Left kicked labor out of the party -- what's the ONE thing holding them together?

Sexual perversion.

Blogger Uncle John's Band July 25, 2018 6:57 AM  

18. Mark Stoval

"Ben Shapiro Loses Debate Defending Disgraced Perverted Disney Director James Gunn"

It is also interesting how they aren't letting it go either. This one Hollywood director, out of all those who have been dismissed, merits sustained defense on principle. Objectively, the prospect of acknowledging revulsion towards pedophilia really has them worried.

The conclusions follow.

Blogger VD July 25, 2018 6:59 AM  

So "A History of Freedom of Thought" is a good start to learn about how Free Speech was used to undermine Christian Blasphemy laws? I'm interested to learn more about this as you're the first person I've ever seen to raise this argument against freedom of speech, it's always been presented to me as the ultimate good in the west even though USA is the only place who actually has it.

Yes. I read the book because I expected to agree with it. JB Bury is a hero of sorts to me, having edited the excellent first edition of the Cambridge Medieval History series. I was shocked to discover that he was essentially a proto-Dawkins, and that the history of free expression that he was celebrating was essentially one long campaign against Christianity.

VD has called for this before, however, religious rule has a pretty dismal historical record.

Depends upon the religion. Christendom was vastly superior to the post-Christian West, which is unlikely to survive even one century without religious rule intact.

Blogger Looking Glass July 25, 2018 7:05 AM  

Well, we've finally answered the question, "What would conservatives actually fight to defend?". Turns out it's pro-pedophilia speech.

We're going to need millstones, stakes, petroleum products and something to start fires with.

Blogger unseen 11 July 25, 2018 7:05 AM  

Thank you Dark Lord, I look forward to reading it along with The Irrational Atheist

Blogger Shane Sullivan July 25, 2018 7:08 AM  

@5 Not just any "stupid bitch", she was kicked off for insulting an vegan atheist! Seriously, what is this world coming to when you can't ridicule something so absurd.

Blogger The Observer July 25, 2018 7:09 AM  

VD has called for this before, however, religious rule has a pretty dismal historical record. The success of the West comes not only from its Christian heritage, but also from secular law and democratic rule.

Divine right kings did well for a good long while in Europe.

As for democracy, any prosperity that was had is in spite of it, running on the fumes of past, technological advancement masking the social decay that it requires. Now that all the social capital is gone, technological progress is being reverted at an astounding rate. Hey, you can't go to the moon any more or even build a bridge that stays up, but I'm sure your smartphone being a little thinner is worth it.

Blogger rumpole5 July 25, 2018 7:18 AM  

Amen Brother Day, Amen.

Blogger Sherwood family July 25, 2018 7:19 AM  

It is not a question of if we will have religious rule with its prohibitions against blasphemies. We already do and always have. It is more a question of which religion's blasphemies we will be coerced to avoid. I would much rather it be an avoidance of the blasphemies against the Christian religion than avoidance of blasphemies against the belief of the SJWs.

Blogger Harambe July 25, 2018 7:28 AM  

Jews make really bad thoughtleaders

Blogger Brad Richards July 25, 2018 7:29 AM  

"Divine right kings did well for a good long while in Europe. As for democracy, any prosperity that was had is in spite of it, running on the fumes of past"

I think you have your historical ages mixed up. If we talk about prosperity (i.e., standard of living), this has skyrocketed in the past century or two. Not coincidentally, nobility and rule by "divine right" has virtually disappeared. The advent of more democratic forms of government accompanied things like the abolition of serfdom - allowing the massive growth of the middle class. The rising and broadening standards of education also drove technical innovation, as one was no longer dooming the vast majority of innovators to remain serfs behind their plows. The combination gives us today's prosperity.

In your next sentence, though, you change your argument to be about "social capital". That's a very vague term, likely meaning whatever you want it to mean. Technological progress reverting? Can't build a bridge that stays up? Engineering standards are higher than ever, materials science has advanced hugely in just the past 20-30 years. That thin smartphone that you denigrate has more computing power than a mainframe just 20 years ago.

The West has cultural problems just now - that's true, and that's what most people are here to discuss. However, returning to absolutist rule by nobility, or moving to totalitarian rule by religious authorities? No thanks, that is certainly how you destroy the West. The only people with "social capital" under those systems are the people in charge.

Blogger Duke Norfolk July 25, 2018 7:36 AM  

Sherwood family wrote:It is not a question of if we will have religious rule with its prohibitions against blasphemies. We already do and always have. It is more a question of which religion's blasphemies we will be coerced to avoid.

Indeed; an excellent point that needs to be reiterated periodically to keep this in the proper perspective.

Blogger tuberman July 25, 2018 7:40 AM  

David Cole

Two things:

Never heard of him either

(((David))) is not a surprise with his excuses for Gunn

Blogger Looking Glass July 25, 2018 7:40 AM  

@30 Brad Richards

The self-proclaimed Neo-Liberal class is the ones trying to, constantly, re-establish Serfdom. That's actually their major economic policy perspective. European serfdom ended long before representative government took hold.

You really understand little of how the Western, Modern economies developed, where the important technologies came from or understand that scientific "progress" is actually requires Christians to be operating it.

On the subject on blasphemy laws, it's important to keep in mind that Leftism is a religion. It always has been. It's a counter-Christian religion from its foundation, but they never called it that. Mostly because Christians would have figured out that it was a Satanic religion and promptly executed everyone involved. Historical hindsight is that they really, really should have.

Blogger Doktor Jeep July 25, 2018 7:41 AM  

We're making speech ad unfree for them as they made it for Roosh V

Blogger bob kek mando - ( don't ask, "Who mentats the Mentats?", ask instead, "Who shitpoasts the Shitpoasters?" ) July 25, 2018 7:48 AM  

21. Uncle John's Band July 25, 2018 6:57 AM
This one Hollywood director, out of all those who have been dismissed, merits sustained defense on principle.



oh, it's not just ONE Hollywood director.

they've been protecting, exalting and calling for dropping charges against Roman Polanski for FORTY YEARS now.


23. Looking Glass July 25, 2018 7:05 AM
Well, we've finally answered the question, "What would conservatives actually fight to defend?". Turns out it's pro-pedophilia speech.



you can't really expect any better from the Gay Old Pedophile party that makes Dennis Hastert Speaker of the House, now can you?

Blogger Othello July 25, 2018 7:53 AM  

Vox,

Given American sentiments against controversy, do you think America will come around to the idea of political prisoners? Like Europe did. Gitmo isn’t big enough for all of them and it lacks what Devil’s Island penal colony was in rhetoric to the French.

Blogger Uncle John's Band July 25, 2018 7:54 AM  

@ 35. bob kek mando

Good catch. Not sure how I forgot about him. The Hollywood Anon said your stance on Polanski is basically the secret handshake.

Of the recent culture war victims, it is telling that Gunn gets the full court press.

Blogger Glaivester July 25, 2018 7:54 AM  

My feeling:

I am willing to grant that these were all tasteless jokes and that James Gunn was not trying to normalize pedophilia or anything like that.

Doesn't matter. I still feel - not happy, but vindicated that he got fired.

The left has been on a blacklisting tirade for the last few years.

Conservatives have continuously said "the liberals better be careful about doing this, they won't like the results."

Well, that day is here, and they don't, and it's time we point out that the prediction has come true, and laugh, rather than work to protect them from the consequences of their own malevolence.

Blogger Redpill Angel July 25, 2018 7:55 AM  

Ok, this one doesn't surprise me at all. I read half of "Republican Party Animal" and had to stop because the guy's so obviously a compulsively lying little creep who would have cheerfully put his own grandmother on the train to camp for five bucks.

Blogger Avalanche July 25, 2018 7:59 AM  

@30 "The advent of more democratic forms of government accompanied things like the abolition of serfdom"

Maybe it's my typical American education, but I understood that the "abolition" of serfdom was NOT abolition in any form, but a result of the Black Death making (living) serfs a vastly rarer commodity, and thus much more valuable -- and this a resource to be enticed.

Such as, the modern (albeit now ended) version of programmers being coaxed with "we'll lease you a Beamer on our dime, as well as pay you $20k to jump ship to our company. Want a foosball table in your office? How about free dry cleaning?!"

Not "democratic," capitalistic!

Blogger Avalanche July 25, 2018 8:03 AM  

@32 "David Cole
Never heard of him either"

Missing a helluva story! (Short, not-precise gloss:)
Jew-boy who actually investigated, filmed, and told the truth about: Auschwitz was NOT a "death camp" -- was hounded, beaten, and about to be murdered by the Jew-mafia -- so Cole pretended he drowned off CA... And 'returned' -- amazingly enough -- as a REPUBLICAN arranger.

Cole was outed a few years back (after, like, 15-20 YEARS "dead" (but Republican!) by an ex-girlfriend...

Blogger Mr. Deficient July 25, 2018 8:03 AM  

I browse Reddit/The_Donald and I do not know if it is a coincidence with your attacks but ALOT more people are on to Ben Shapiro's "games" after the pedo "joke" defending.

Blogger Avalanche July 25, 2018 8:05 AM  

@39 "had to stop because the guy's so obviously a compulsively lying little creep"

'had to stop because the guy's so obviously a (((compulsively lying little creep)))'

FIFY

Blogger James Dixon July 25, 2018 8:06 AM  

> Why can't people see this?

Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but people can. (((People))) on the other hand, seem to have a problem, as do their paid shills.

> Government by religious zealots is the short road to totalitarianism.

It's not a question of whether you have government by religious zealots at this point. It's a question of which religious zealots are in control. Communist zealots or Christian ones.

Blogger DraveckysHumerus July 25, 2018 8:20 AM  

Off topic. The Republicans have asked me to support local incumbant (R) candidate Peter Roskam by participating in a counter protest near my office. Roskam does not appear to be a cuck. I am willing to hold a sign, march, chant, whatever; I'm a big, ugly, intimidating man, so I can contribute additional value by presence.

My question here is whether this sort of street-level political activity is worth the investment of my time. Roskam isn't my district's congress critter, yet, he does advocate for President Trump's positions and he is a staunch 2A protector. Thoughts appreciated as I've seldom engaged in political street work.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 25, 2018 8:24 AM  

An (R) incumbent who isn't a cuck? Have him stuffed and mounted - that's museum grade stuff!

The GOP is supporting him? Be very suspicious.

Your question? I have no clue whether street level action accomplishes anything, but the Left thinks it does, and uses it often.

Blogger Peaceful Poster July 25, 2018 8:25 AM  

I started questioning the merits of free speech when topless women became legal in my area.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 25, 2018 8:30 AM  

The politically connected sex cult members are being rounded by the feds, so maybe that is causing a sense of desperation.

Blogger VD July 25, 2018 8:42 AM  

I think you have your historical ages mixed up. If we talk about prosperity (i.e., standard of living), this has skyrocketed in the past century or two. Not coincidentally, nobility and rule by "divine right" has virtually disappeared.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Your argument is inept. Japan, Thailand, and other countries have had no problem developing economically while ruled by powerful monarchies. There is absolutely nothing that convincingly links democracy to economic development, as China is demonstrating.

US average wages still have not reached those of 1973 and the media national wealth has declined greatly. Don't confuse debt growth with wealth growth.

Blogger Redpill Angel July 25, 2018 8:46 AM  

#41 Avalanche: It is a helluva story, and it got me thinking about about the whole JQ for the first time. He told the truth, but that forced him to lie, lie, lie to protect himself from his own (((people))). He ended up like a roach hiding under the fridge. Something seemed off about him although he is an engaging writer. And no way I believed he was successful with women!

Blogger Purge187 July 25, 2018 8:55 AM  

"You want Europe? That’s how you’ll get Europe."

No, you'll get Europe by accepting an influx of low-IQ alpha-males who think from the waist down.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 25, 2018 9:00 AM  

When someone laughs off a "pedo cabal" as nutty, I stop listening to him, because it means he doesn't think. We can argue about the extent of it, who's involved, how powerful it is, whether it's one big cabal or several little ones, etc. But of course it exists, as simple logic, for the same reasons other organized crime networks exist.

Rich people hire experts to do everything from tending their lawns to driving their cars, but we're supposed to believe a rich pedophile goes down to the park with a van full of candy and does his own fishing? Of course he's going to hire that out too, which means there will be an industry to provide the service, and people who use it will share that knowledge with select friends they trust.

Supposed free market conservatives and libertarians, of all people, should recognize how that demand for a very dangerous service will drive market forces and supply. But that thought has been declared nutty, so don't think about it, just point and laugh at the nuts so everyone can tell you're not one of them.

Or he knows good and well it exists, and is knowingly running interference for it. The more we learn, the more that has to be the case with people who still shrug it off.

Blogger cavalier973 July 25, 2018 9:01 AM  

It wasnt the Constitution that,kept Americans free and prosperous, it was the American Frontier. The ability to get up and get out limited the ability of the FedGov and local governments to impose a lot of restrictions on personal freedom.

When the Frontier closed, the rapid accumulation of government power began.

Blogger Lovekraft July 25, 2018 9:06 AM  

Thanks, VD. Only you could try to unpack Cole's wordbabble.

Cole is partially responsible for the mess Europe and other western nations are experiencing, but has the arrogance to somehow blame us for trying to fix it.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd July 25, 2018 9:17 AM  

Exactly. We're already without freedom to speak. No amount of taking the fight to the enemy will make them want to take our speech more. We have no choice but to fight back. Now they already want us dead. They have long since been utterly opposed to our speech.

Blogger Lovekraft July 25, 2018 9:18 AM  

@ 52 Damelon: "Of course he's going to hire that out too."

Epstein had a procurer/groomer Ghislaine Maxwell.

There's also the recent arrest of the daughter of Seagrams founder (Canada whiskey empire) Sara Bronfman for her involvement in the NVIXM sex cult.

Side note: Bronfman goes waaaay back to the 30s (prohibition) and organized crime (Lansky and company).

Blogger Wynn Lloyd July 25, 2018 9:21 AM  

What the hell?

Blogger Mom July 25, 2018 9:22 AM  


"It's not a secret. There is a disturbingly large population of pedophiles in Hollywood. Everyone there knows who they are, including David Cole."
Wait..."everyone knows"
Is this okay?
Isn't it illegal (horrifying, putrid, disgustingly evil,...) to rape children?
Is this true?
I'm sure I'm not the only one who's eyes were only open to this in recent years.
Sure, I knew about the casting couch, but little boys or girls. No. At least not to the extent it really is.
Most normal people don't either.
I'm praying the Lord continues to help expose these sick perverts.
Good point Damelon.

Blogger Peter Gent July 25, 2018 9:30 AM  

cavalier973 wrote:It wasnt the Constitution that,kept Americans free and prosperous, it was the American Frontier. The ability to get up and get out limited the ability of the FedGov and local governments to impose a lot of restrictions on personal freedom.

When the Frontier closed, the rapid accumulation of government power began.

When looking at U.S. History from that perspective, the Civil War could be thought of stopping the creating of new frontiers by preventing states from leaving, a sure central government power reducer. Stopping succession meant central power could grow and there would be nothing left to stop it. Once caged, the wardon controls one's life.

Blogger Dave W. July 25, 2018 9:35 AM  

"But the general public, and other figures in the entertainment industry, go “Oh shit, if that can happen to him, I’d better shut the hell up and never say anything even slightly controversial.”"

BS, complete BS. The lefties that I talked to this about, when they started reading those slimy tweets, they didn't even TRY to defend Gunn. This was too much for the normie lefties. Now, the depraved Hollywood lefties, that's a whole different animal.

Blogger Didas Kalos July 25, 2018 9:36 AM  

Do what?! Auschwitz not a death camp? Is this a joke?

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira July 25, 2018 9:48 AM  

No quarter for PDF files

Blogger tz July 25, 2018 9:49 AM  

Amazing how much the prophet-hearlds of the God-Emperor as well as GE himself is criticized and told to shut up, often with worse consequences. The memes "aren't funny".

Basically we should self-censor so they can continue to attack with no consequence and do far worse than we do speechwise

Alinsky is fun until you are held to your own standard and you are the one being personalized.

The alt-right is also the radical right, and playing by Rules for Radicals. We didn't write the rules, but have figured out how to win bigly under them.

Blogger John July 25, 2018 9:52 AM  

@14, @30 The success of the West comes not only from its Christian heritage, but also from secular law and democratic rule. 

Secular democracy has failed. Secularists are children of the devil, and they rule accordingly. Democracy means the idiots have just as much say as everyone else. Plus democracy means women also rule, and women do not defend laws or borders to the death.

However, returning to absolutist rule by nobility, or moving to totalitarian rule by religious authorities?

Ending democracy does not entail absolute rule by nobility. Restoring blasphemy laws and religious tests for office does not entail totalitarian rule.

Blogger pyrrhus July 25, 2018 9:53 AM  

It becomes more and more evident that Taki, stalwart defender of Weinstein, and supporter of Cole and other HWood creeps, closed the comment section at Taki's for very good reasons....

Blogger tz July 25, 2018 9:55 AM  

Also, why are pedo jokes at all acceptable, while using the N-word (in private and in context like Papa John's), or even saying something others think alludes to it (Roseanne), or worse saying anything about Jews (see the UK Labor kerfuffle) gets you banned for life from everywhere?

At least if you aren't a rapper calling to rape women and burn down your city after looting it. They can use the N word.

The jokes in question are about raping children.

Blogger pyrrhus July 25, 2018 9:56 AM  

@64 The clock started ticking on the American Republic when Prohibition and the 19th Amendment , both pushed by Socialist women's groups, were enacted over the opposition of most of the country.

Blogger Dave W. July 25, 2018 10:02 AM  

Wait, what? Auschwitz "not a death camp"? What kind of DailyStormer BS is this?

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 25, 2018 10:05 AM  

Inherent in Vox’s point that “free speech” has always been nothing but a Trojan horse for smuggling satanic evil into christendom, is that speech has never been free.

There’s no act - including speech - without consequence.

Consequences fall into two major categories:

1. Ordained by God, expressed as laws, universal in space and time, unchanging, unchangeable, unavoidable, founded on design patterns incorporating eternal principles necessary for the existence and contnuation of life.

In other words, the wages of sin is death.

2. Ordained by man. Expressed as criminal statutes and/or common values, limited in space and time, changing, changeable, often avoidable, founded on fear greed and expedience.

YOU are free.

You have total freedom to choose which package of acts and their consequences you will initiate.

You are NOT free to initiate ANY acts without consequence. You never have been, nobody ever has been, and never will be.

This is a fixed principle of operation we call a law of life and it is category 1: ordained by God.

Deal.

Blogger English Tom July 25, 2018 10:07 AM  

@Avalanche

So this is the same David Cole who made the infamous film, David Cole at Auschwitz?

I wonder if he still wears a yarmukle.

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 25, 2018 10:09 AM  

Clarification;

Men’s laws based on God’s laws are not based on fear greed or expediency, but the world has only reluctantly acceded to such. Every generation ever born has had to learn this lesson snew; there is no escape from design law.

Blogger cavalier973 July 25, 2018 10:09 AM  

Exactly so. The Constitution empowered the FedGov to conduct an illegal war of invasion against peacefully seceding states.

Blogger James Dixon July 25, 2018 10:09 AM  

> The clock started ticking on the American Republic when Prohibition and the 19th Amendment , both pushed by Socialist women's groups,

The American Republic ended with the Civil War. After that it became the American Empire, held together solely by military force and relative prosperity. Those appear to have reached their limits.

Blogger James Dixon July 25, 2018 10:16 AM  

> The Constitution empowered the FedGov to conduct an illegal war of invasion against peacefully seceding states.

That's debatable. Obviously the seceding states didn't think the Constitution empowered any such thing. Since the matter was never taken to the Supreme Court, the constitutionality of the war is still an open question.

Blogger English Tom July 25, 2018 10:17 AM  

@Looking Glass

I could be wrong but I thought it was the black death that ended serfdom (14th century) as you point out, this was long before the rise of representative democracy.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey July 25, 2018 10:42 AM  

Very central to Cole's argument is the fear that, as he said, "figures in the entertainment industry, go 'Oh shit, if that can happen to him, I’d better shut the hell up and never say anything even slightly controversial.'" He also quotes a cucky friend who said, "it’s very hard for the smaller production companies to do hard-hitting social commentary, which is what usually puts them on the map."

Okay, I'm noodling this, and noodling this and I just can't see the downside. Entertainment people might face a chill wind? How is that not an upside? We don't need one more stupid celebrity tweet-storm over whatever daily idiocy has fascinated their infantile minds. What are they on about today, abolishing ICE? What was it yesterday, their Bismarckian policies on Russia? Please.


And the other last thing we need is one more ambitious attempt at 'hard-hitting social commentary' from some idiot lefty in SoCal.

So once again we have the same old prescription from a cuck: do nothing. Let the enemies have free reign, it would be wrong and unseemly to oppose! Why heavens, we might even hurt ourselves by opposition!

Blogger Looking Glass July 25, 2018 10:57 AM  

English Tom wrote:@Looking Glass

I could be wrong but I thought it was the black death that ended serfdom (14th century) as you point out, this was long before the rise of representative democracy.


Serfdom never truly ended, but it becomes a question of "when we the high point?". I actually don't have a clear answer for that, but it was mostly gone by Westphilia. Feudal European Serfdom was really more of a strange econo-religious spot that happened after the rise of the Holy Roman Empire. Really, it was weird middle state between slavery and self-rule, where Christian morality & economic approaches were unwinding the old world.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 25, 2018 11:00 AM  

Brad Richards wrote:Government by religious zealots is the short road to totalitarianism.
That's what Jews and other communists have taught you, yes. I'd love to see someone cite a couple of examples.

Blogger John S July 25, 2018 11:23 AM  

VD wrote:David Cole . . .

Who?

Up until this very moment, I'd never even heard of the guy.


David Cole (Stein) is an extremely wise individual, renowned for his good judgment in taking public stances.

Take this appearance on shitlib extraordinare Phil Donahue's talk show for example:

It was David Cole's considered opinion that it was a good idea to tell the world via Donahue that gas chambers were not used to kill jews during The Holocaust.

Following which he needed to change his name and go into hiding...

Surely we can all trust David's judgment in this matter as well?

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 25, 2018 11:40 AM  

@James Dixon

The Constitution was not an agreement to swap a monarch for a court, either.

Your statement concedes the entire argument while pretending to leave it open.

It’s a bait and switch you’re pulling on yourself but it’s probably not working on as many other people as you might hope.

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 25, 2018 11:49 AM  

@tz:

The alt-right is also the radical right, and playing by Rules for Radicals. We didn't write the rules, but have figured out how to win bigly under them.


This is what Vox meant when he was so amused by the Hugo-noughts trying to exclude GamerGaters from the Hugos by fiddling the rules.

We’re people whose preferred pastime is setting the difficulty to its highest level and figuring out how to win.

The reason we’ve been losing for 100 years is that we were taught not to fight, since that’s the only way our enemies can win. Once we get over that prohibition our victory is inevitable.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 25, 2018 11:53 AM  

Free speech is an anti-Christian fraud, it always has been, and the West will do very well to revive and restore the historical blasphemy laws. Since the idea of no standards is clearly not tenable, it will be much better to abide by the historical standards of civilized Christianity than the ever-mutating standard of social justice.

To put it another way -- taboos (including verbal ones) are a universal feature of all known human societies. These taboos are sometimes enforced by legal (or quasi-legal) measures, and sometimes by other types of social sanction. The question is not whether taboos will exist -- it's whether their nature (and their enforcement) will be determined by the historic American nation (and its religion), or by an alien, hostile elite.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 25, 2018 11:58 AM  

@79

Surely we can all trust David's judgment in this matter as well?

Clearly, Cole has learned his lesson about what happens when you try to put mere truth ahead of The Narrative.

Learned it well. He'll never make that kind of mistake in judgment again.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 25, 2018 12:17 PM  

@7 I DontTroll

I have no clue who this actor is, but Isaac Kappy comes out against pedophilia

Kinda smells like a setup. Note that he specifically used the word "Illuminati" in the initial Tweet. That's a red flag right there. Self-discrediting, because "Illuminati" is strongly evocative of the "conspiracy theory" trope. Gotta be deliberate.
If he gradually works increasingly-improbable stuff into his narrative, gets a bunch of people on board, then reveals it as a "joke," then the whole idea of systemic Hollywood pedophilia gets discredited as a "conspiracy theory."

Kind of Sasha Cohen's modus operandi, but on a larger scale.
That's my guess, anyway.

Blogger Al Du Clur July 25, 2018 12:28 PM  

Frustrating to see Sailer, someone I have a lot of respect for, second Cole's absurd conclusion that celebrities are only making child rape jokes because it is the only thing that isn't banned by PC and that the jokes are a sign that the celebrity is not a pedophile because they wouldn't brag about it. Wrong on so many levels including:

1 among even reasonably normal people pedophilia is the worst offense. Even people in prison feel that way. The fact that the left thinks raping babies is funny is a sign of just how evil they are and evil people do evil things

2 Just like most industries don't have casting couches, an exec who laughed on Twitter about raping babies would likely be met with revulsion and a pink slip. That celebrities feel they have a green light to get away with pedophilia jokes is a sign that it is a common practice in Hollywood

3. There spent need to be an official pedo cabal anymore than there needs to be an official casting couch cabal for it to be a common practice in Hollywood given it is run by the tribe

I wonder what the Chinese think of this considering they want to supplant the Jews

Blogger Al Du Clur July 25, 2018 12:29 PM  

Fitting that baby rape joker Michael Ian Black is coming out with a book on redefining masculinity. Traditionally masculine men protect children from perverts like MIB.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 25, 2018 12:35 PM  

@20
Since the Left kicked labor out of the party -- what's the ONE thing holding them together?

Sexual perversion


Sexual perversion and anti-white hatred. And let's not forget the noble struggle against the depredations "toxic" (i.e. white) masculinity and muh evil patriarchy, either.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 25, 2018 12:48 PM  

@85

Frustrating to see Sailer, someone I have a lot of respect for, second Cole's absurd conclusion that celebrities are only making child rape jokes because it is the only thing that isn't banned by PC...

Sailer? That is disappointing.

Of course, this behavior does reflect more than just the desire to promote/ normalize pedophilia for its own sake -- it partly stems from the tribal compulsion to deconstruct/ invert/ destroy any standards of the host society. What E. Michael Jones calls the "Jewish revolutionary spirit."

3. There spent need to be an official pedo cabal anymore than there needs to be an official casting couch cabal for it to be a common practice in Hollywood given it is run by the tribe

Sure. And sometimes apparent "conspiracies" arise from self-organizing behavioral tendencies/ mass action. Bottom-up, rather than top-down.

Blogger Mocheirge July 25, 2018 1:23 PM  

Didas Kalos wrote:Do what?! Auschwitz not a death camp? Is this a joke?

The shortest joke in the German language.

Blogger Angantyr July 25, 2018 1:27 PM  

OT, but tangently related, has there been any further news regarding that find of some sort of children sex trafficking site in Arizona, where a child's skull and other remains were found? IIRC some group looking for homeless veterans stumbled across all this, and even posted pictures of the skull they found. I got the impression from the way the article was reported that the local PD were trying to cover things up.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 25, 2018 1:40 PM  

@61
Auschwitz not a death camp?

@68
Auschwitz "not a death camp"?

Was Zyklon B a commercial product? Was it sold all around the world? What was its intended use? How did Anne Frank, the patron saint of Holocaustianity, die (i.e. what was her cause of death)? How is that disease transmitted? In the pre-antibiotic era, what interventions were used to interrupt the transmission of that disease?

What was the purpose of SHAEF's Division of Psychological Warfare? They would never stoop so low as to employ atrocity propaganda as "psychological warfare"... would they? I mean, no one on the side of the good guys employed ludicrously over-the-top false atrocity propaganda in the earlier world war... did they?

Start there.

Blogger Gritón del Desierto July 25, 2018 1:41 PM  

And just when I though that Cole was one of the very few jews that wasn't ,you know,jewish.Well,at least We got Cernovich

Blogger Meimou July 25, 2018 2:00 PM  

Well Cole was right..

Blogger tublecane July 25, 2018 3:16 PM  

@91- The Holocaust was used for propaganda purposes moreso after the war than before. Jews were raising the alarm, of course, but the allies were content to destroy the the Third Reich and possibly Germany itself p the basis of traditional evils like in adding poor Poland.

Hence all the handwringing after the fact about FDR turning away *the ship* and the entire gentile world--which after all is tainted with Original Antisemitism--standing by while the heavens darken.

Much hay was made directly after the war, but Nuremberg was largely on things we don't care about anymore.

Wasn't until the 60s when the Holocaust Industry really got off its feet. First with the novel Night a d the Eichmann trial. Then there was the Holocaust tv miniseries in the 70s, and since then it's been a staple of mainstream American outrage-ertainment.

Blogger tublecane July 25, 2018 3:24 PM  

@15- Pretty sure Cole faked his own death to hide out from a Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. Though the Holocaust Industry coming after him didn't help.

Cole was and is a huckster, wheeler-dealer type. His "Jewish Holocaust Denier" shtick is really the only valuable thing he did. He was able to pull off what Vox warns endlessly against, which is making the MSM look bad playing their own game. Though he won Pyhrric victories, because his life fell apart.

Later, he made a career out of throwing parties for Hollywood Republicans. The "Friends of Abe," like Kelsey Grammer and Gary Sinise. But they found out about his previous persona and booted him.

Blogger tublecane July 25, 2018 3:28 PM  

I don't even understand the position of a man like Cole, who has already been eaten up and digested by PC. Except to say maybe if he were European or Canadian he'd be in jail.

Is it possible the "you want __, this is how you get __" crowd don't realize we already live under PC? It's here. It has arrived.

Blogger Zwiebel July 25, 2018 3:31 PM  

Disappointing. I'd just started reading Cole, and, yes, he had a cucky vibe, but this... Crowder, too. Aborting babies - not ok. Raping babies - Hmmmm....

Really, what's wrong with people? Why do they even think this stuff was jokes? I mean - any of you laughed at any of that? Maybe it's my German "sense of humour", but none of that stuff even made the corners of my mouth move.

Blogger tublecane July 25, 2018 3:43 PM  

@30- Do you learn history from the back of a cereal box?

Here's one bit of knowledge for you: the Holy Stardard forgiving didn't really skyrocket with the famous Industrial Revolution, but rather with what you might call the Second Industrial Revolution brought about by the taming of electricity and the invention of the internal combustion engine. More than a hundred years after the Age of Reason cut off the heads of kings, priests, and noblemen.

The Scientific Revolution, which ultimately made the Age of Power possible, started before tue Enlightenment and has little to nothing to do with political revolution. Actually, I'd rather be Galileo under house arrest than Lavoisier executed by the terror.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 25, 2018 3:59 PM  

@45 DraveckysHumerus
My question here is whether this sort of street-level political activity is worth the investment of my time.
---

Your first mission should be to determine if it is Roskam or (((Roskam))) .

Once you figure that out, your choice should become obvious.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 25, 2018 4:17 PM  

@97 Zwiebel

Really, what's wrong with people? Why do they even think this stuff was jokes?
---

They read as confessions to me.

Blogger Andrew Brown July 25, 2018 4:33 PM  

Read that book and and I quite liked it. The authors attempt to discredit Christianity completely backfired. I'll be honest, I never really knew much about the blasphemy laws of the middle ages and the lives of the Inquisitors. For a Christian to live under middle aged Christendom would be good, even if you're innocent and sentenced to death as a heretic, you are still of the Lord. No fear in life, no fear in death.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants July 25, 2018 4:45 PM  

A guy who had to go into hiding, has no career beyond Taki's mag, has no credibility outside of Holocaust denial circles and has spent the last couple of decades slowly drinking himself to death.
Impressive Jew powers, right there.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 25, 2018 4:49 PM  

@94

The Holocaust was used for propaganda purposes moreso after the war than before.

Though the "6 million" trope was in use long before the war for Jewish victimhood propaganda, of course.

There are several (related) issues here:

1. How the standard narrative of Jewish casualties in WW2 was developed, when it was most heavily marketed, and for what purposes (different at different times). The heyday of concentration camp tours/ lampshades/ soap/ shrunken heads was in the immediate aftermath of the war, and was directed mostly at the German people (guilt) and at Allied troops ("we're the good guys" justification for area bombing/ Red Army atrocities/ etc).

2. When the Holocaust™ branding was first developed/ heavily promoted, along with the concept of it as the original sin of all white goyim -- seems to be a considerably later development.

3. What might be termed the "Finkelstein Question" with respect to the shady ways in which the Holocaust™ narrative has been monetized/ used for emotional blackmail.

4. Whether (and to what extent), officially enforced Holocaustianity dogma is supported by the available documentary/ forensic evidence.

My questions specifically relate to #4... and still stand.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants July 25, 2018 4:51 PM  

I assume THIS is a joke...right??
Tell me someone posted here isn't stupid enough to think Auschwitz was actually a death camp.
Good grief.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants July 25, 2018 4:53 PM  

Anyone paying attention has known this forever.
This has never been a secret.

Blogger DraveckysHumerus July 25, 2018 8:06 PM  

99. Where-Puppy
I can't tell whether Roskam is (((tribe))) or not. He's not my district, I am not a (R) although elections ago the Republicans asked me to serve and I did serve as an election judge because I vote rightward despite I was 30+years younger than my fellow judges.

Roskam is merely speaking at Union League Club tomorrow night conveniently near my office and the local (R) boss, Cleveland, wants me to hold a sign for the cameras or similar. I'll do it, my wife is in Australia so I am flying solo, I really haven't engaged much street-level before, yet like I said my prior post almost nobody who meets up with me thinks violence is in their interest so there would be dissuasive presence if I show, which could be beneficial.

Roskam claims and votes 2A, which in gun-controlled Chicago is crucial to me despite I hold a lot of get-out-of-jail-free cards due to my service on various technical-legal task forces in my adopted state Illinois. I'm an urban survivalist and Roskam seems to help out on related issues.

I believe I'll show irrespective I would love to hang the cucks by piano wire after they witnessed me suspending the leftists by their necks first.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia July 25, 2018 10:01 PM  

VD wrote
Free speech is an anti-Christian fraud, it always has been, and the West will do very well to revive and restore the historical blasphemy laws.

I love you, man, but this is a bridge too far. And think about the phrase, God-Emperor. Isn't that blasphemy is the traditional sense, when you claim for him the attributes of a deity, even if he may not claim it for himself?

And the guy has been a serial adulterer. Hey I'm cool with that, becuase who of us knows how it is to be tempted at that level, as Bill Burr has said? Stormy Daniels is "meh" but take at look at some Karen McDougal pics some time. Resistance is indeed sometime futile.

Of course, all right, I know the phrase God Emperor is semi-ironic. But see the slippery slope?

But like you I am an optimist. Nationalism is inevitable. The alt-right is inevitable. The pedos and the other members of the Cabal will be, and are being, outed. The horror of their perversions don't need blasphemy laws, because good, moral humans, particulary infused with the crowning principles of Western Civilization, understand those perversions. Gunn is toast. We didn't need blasphemy laws to take him down. We needed Cernovich.

And meanwhile, Douglas Murray may have been burned at the statke 500 years ago, but right now he is an imporant ally in the fight.

Blogger Zwiebel July 26, 2018 5:52 AM  

Agreed.

Blogger Markku July 26, 2018 1:20 PM  

God Emperor is a character in Warhammer 2K. It's not semi-ironic, it's Hipster-level fully ironic.

Blogger Zander Stander July 26, 2018 5:04 PM  

Thought it was Muadib, Paul Atreides, God-emperor of Dune?

Blogger N Matheson July 26, 2018 6:03 PM  

There certainly were death camps both Davids Iriving and Cole have confirmed this, however Auschwitz almost certainly wasn't one.
I like David Cole/Stein but this episode marks my parting with him. I tried to like the cuck-right drunken Goad/McInnes type punk attitude but it just got too cucky.

Blogger Markku July 26, 2018 6:40 PM  

No, it's this guy. Hence the heresy memes. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Emperor_of_Mankind

Blogger VD August 01, 2018 9:15 AM  

I love you, man, but this is a bridge too far. And think about the phrase, God-Emperor. Isn't that blasphemy is the traditional sense, when you claim for him the attributes of a deity, even if he may not claim it for himself?

Nice boomerposting. 8/10. Were you at Woodstock, man?

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