Saturday, July 28, 2018

Deals with the devil

The problem mortals face in striking deals with the devil is that eventually, time will run out. This blind item from seven months ago on CDAN is almost certainly relevant to Ronan Farrow's expose of CBS and Les Moonves.

Make that definitely relevant, as this prophetic comment on the blog post demonstrates: Ronan Farrow is on this. He's doing a major profile for the NY Times and has been calling people all over the industry--causing a panic at Viacom and CBS. Remember, both the post and the comment are from January, 2018.
Tick tock, tick tock.  That clock is ticking loudly as a chain of events and a metaphorical deal with the devil can bring down this entire media corporation and their now-struggling studio within the coming year. This one has been a long time coming, and is thankfully about to come to an end for the perpetrators of some of the modern entertainment industry's worst long-time institutional abuses of underage actresses.  For many of the long-time CDAN regulars this one won't be a shock, although the details might.  Many people in Hollywood and out have been waiting to see when this Producer at this cable network is going to be called out, publicly accused, or charged for his many years of abuse behind the scenes.  Many have wondered why - with so many others being brought down - he's managed to escape almost unscathed? It's because of his Protector.  His Protector is the mega-wealthy big boss of the studio and corporate parent, and he wields a lot of power over many types of media, in both Hollywood and New York.  Many years ago the Producer got himself in serious trouble over his perverted abuses of several of his actresses.  Not just those he abused himself, but those he encouraged his writers, directors, and co-producers to sexually abuse.  This was not a one-time thing, but an ongoing constant pattern which led those actresses to drugs, self-destruction, self-abuse, mutilation, destroyed dreams, wasted careers, damaged families, and even insanity.  Made more disgusting by the complicity and apathy of the parents, "momagers", and guardians who just wanted fame and money.  All so that some jolly perverts could get their rocks off living out their sick unfulfilled tweenage dreams.  At that time, the Protector still had most of his marbles and was going to live forever.  Many believe he still may, although he's now alive in name only and the flames are lapping at his legs daily.  Back then he still had his iron grip on his business and he's never been afraid to sue, threaten, harass, or destroy others as his favorite sport.

Back when the abuses emerged as whispers at the corporation, the executives and The Protector sat down with his corporate bean counters and realized the massive cash cow this Producer was for them.  Huge. Very huge and big in every way. In fact, probably one of the three biggest revenue generators in the corporate parent's entire history (especially in the coveted target demographic for ads, merch, and licensing).  When that much is at stake, they don't want to rock the boat or kill the golden goose (Or cow. Or even a giant pig.).  Anyway, on the other hand? It is a public corporation, and that means things can get leaked and revealed just through statements and financial reports.  What then evolved was a corporate game of chess that nobody could imagine.

The Producer was no dummy, so he personally hired investigators to provide ammo for his case.  He then hired top financial experts to lay out the revenue he and his cronies represented to the corporation both in the past and in future revenues.  So when the Protector summoned him? The Producer showed the Protector a huge financial report to validate his power and worth to the bottom line.  Then he showed a massive dossier of files going back 50 years of the powerful Protector's own misdeeds.  From New York, to Hollywood, to Boston, to London - a trail of abuses, perversions, thefts from his company, abuse, stealing from his own family, and even outright felonies.  By the time he got down the list to mention offshore banking, the Protector knew he'd met someone on his level.  Thus the two twisted men forged a strategy and agreement to protect each other and the corporation.

The Producer surrendered his very expensive background report - and the Protector agreed to make all those "pesky" abuse whispers go away.  They also agreed to blame another big corporate executive within the corporation if anything ever did leak out and set him up as a fall guy.  The Protector even targeted one of his corporate underlings to shoulder the blame too, so he could claim ignorance.  None of this was simple, instant, and was NOT cheap or easy.  But the perverted Producer was smart enough to have limited potential witnesses by keeping his rapes/abuses down to he said/she said.  And for more than a decade in the pre-Cosby & pre-Harvey days a reporter, lawyer, or cop wouldn't accuse in such instances without hard proof.
Whether Moonves is an attempted distraction or a prelude is irrelevant. The evil old Protector can't protect the depraved Producer any longer, so it's just a matter of time before the first big crack in the dam of information about the Hollywood pedos appears.

Both CBS and Viacom are going down hard. Nor will they be the only organizations to do so. Neon Revolt has more.

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Blogger rumpole5 July 28, 2018 6:27 AM  

Perhaps the slow, slow pace of revelations about this ocean of slimey evil is because even the GE and his knights fear a total collapse when the unsullied citizens find out what has been going on. A lot of our society depends on trust, and that will be gone when it all comes out.

Blogger tuberman July 28, 2018 6:57 AM  

Major avalanche coming soon.

Blogger Pierre July 28, 2018 7:04 AM  

It takes time to persuade people. Trump started as "who's that guy" and he has been building trust among his supporters. Now thanks to the reaction to the summit with Putin, he has managed to totally discredit the media and position himself as the sole source of truth, which is the necessary condition to be able to reveal such a huge scandal and having people believe him.

Anonymous Anonymous July 28, 2018 7:12 AM  

The devil is a liar so dealing with him is like the frog riding the scorpion

Blogger #7139 July 28, 2018 7:35 AM  

Read Neon Revolt. I am going to love the smell of the Apocalypse in the morning. It will be glorious.

Blogger Double E July 28, 2018 8:02 AM  

Is there speculation on who these two people might be?

Blogger Weak July 28, 2018 8:14 AM  

It's notable how the trolls and shills are NOT showing up for this story. But they were all over the Gunn story.

Like a comment said on the previous Moonves post here, "at least he's going after adult women". Exactly. This is another controlled burn, like Weinstein was. It's in the New York Times, FFS.

Controlled burn for "normal" harassing of adults to protect the pedos.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 28, 2018 8:37 AM  

The names being tossed about in the comments for that article are interesting. I'll bring up one of them, Ben Stein and only because in one of his pieces in the TAS many years ago he admitted to being a sex addict (also his obsession of adopting a blond boy now sounds a bit off)

And to be fair about it George Bush senior's name makes an appearance in the thread and now that I think about it he does look like a sadistic fucker.

Blogger VD July 28, 2018 8:38 AM  

Is there speculation on who these two people might be?

Sumner Redstone of Viacom is believed to be the Protector. Dan Schneider of Nickolodeon is believed to be the Producer.

This is another controlled burn, like Weinstein was. It's in the New York Times, FFS.

I suspect you are correct. But controlled burns have been known to get out of control. Regardless, this is not going to distract or dissuade the chans.

Blogger Unknown July 28, 2018 8:39 AM  

"It's notable how the trolls and shills are NOT showing up for this story. But they were all over the Gunn story."

It's weird how the "trolls and shills" only seem to show up for guys you've heard of. It's almost as if a lot of people have a vested interest in the guy who writes their self-help books (Jordan Peterson) or the guy who makes their space adventures (James Gunn).

I don't think you appreciate the gut reaction people have to these things.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 28, 2018 8:43 AM  

Compare the CDAN information to what Drudge puts up on his page, IMO Drudge is the controlled burn, its all about burning the CBS honcho with accusations that sound a bit like #metoo profiteering. And thruout the Gunn saga I checked and damned if I seen more than one blurb down the column on the right when something like that should have have been top left.

So in the end good old Matt probably went to the Eyes Wide Shut galas out there on LI or LA, maybe even Geffen's boat, who knows.

Blogger Pierre July 28, 2018 8:46 AM  

It's already all over the French press.

In the Gunn case, left-wing journal "Le Monde" blamed Cernovich, but in this case they adopt a much more "neutral" tone.

Seems like Controlled burn indeed (ie Weinstein 2.0).

Blogger Unknown July 28, 2018 8:52 AM  

What goes over the devil's back, comes back under his belly.

Blogger wreckage July 28, 2018 8:54 AM  

They don't get that sacrificial social moves won't even be noticed by the weaponized autists. They're hoping the chans will say "Well fellows, they've burned one of their own; let's not humiliate them too badly, eh?", whereas in fact they are saying

data point confirmed

adjust weighting

proceed inquiries

adjust target relationship maps

increment kill-count

Blogger Johnny July 28, 2018 8:59 AM  

Neon Revolt: The flow of Government money has been cut off. At least Amazon was “smart” about it by ostensibly selling the CIA server power. They have a cover. Twitter and Facebook? They just filed it under “User growth.”

Sweet if it is true and it does fit a pattern. Trump, apparently, has only limited power over the intel agencies. But this is an area were exposure would be damaging and so perhaps they have to comply with his wishes to shut down the flow of cash.

Vital to what is going on, I believe, is for the Republicans to not lose seats in the fall election. If this sort of flow of events continues the Repubs could end up with significant gains. Even if half the SOBs are RINO, that will still empower Trump and keep the current momentum of events going.

Blogger Unknown July 28, 2018 9:01 AM  

A great time to be here for so many reasons; alt-hero, the fall of the Cabal, the above exposure of Hollywood, etc.
We have many good reasons to remain hopeful and encouraged.
Black pills look silly to readers of this blog.

Blogger Jew613 July 28, 2018 9:18 AM  

I believe this is on topic, there is an audio documentary about the death, possible murder, of starlet Natalie Wood back in 1981. Was there a cover up because the truth would have made too many Hollywood people, including Christopher Walken & Robert Wagner look bad? Fatal Voyage

Blogger SergeiSiminov84 July 28, 2018 9:33 AM  

As I also suspect the sudden 'outing' of Les Moonves is to distract the public from what 'they' want to keep secret.

I note that at the time of writing (for the United States as a whole) there are no less than three associated Twitter 'trends' - Les Moonves, ronan farrow, Leslie Moonves.

Which was the same as five hours ago...
Noting how Twitter likes to bury any big trend that threatens "The Narrative".
Rather odd that they would allow three trends to stay afloat all day...

Anonymous Anonymous July 28, 2018 9:35 AM  

It’s about the money, Johnny.

The COA has plenty of off-budget revenues, but if they use them to pay off zuckerboy the money comes out of their own pockets. They prefer it to come out of yours

Anonymous Anonymous July 28, 2018 9:36 AM  

CIA - sorry, writing on my phone

Blogger Jeff aka Orville July 28, 2018 9:46 AM  

People view many actors and actresses as special, having lived vicariously through their many roles. They will absolutely lose their shit or go into blind denial when this all comes out.

I remember in the 80's being scandalized by finding out Rock Hudson was a fag. Sure we all knew Paul Linde and Liberace were "flamboyant". Then I find out that Randolph Scott and Cary Grant lived openly as a couple in LA, while the Hollywood press looked the other way.

After what I've been reading in CDAN and Neon Revolt, I pretty much concluded that any of my favorite actors are probably preverts at the least, and probably also child molesters. So I'm hardened for the big reveal, but it will be real interesting to see how the public in general handles it.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville July 28, 2018 9:52 AM  

And while hardened to it, it sort of sucks. I really liked Kevin Spacey as an actor, then to find out he really is a Frank Underwood type of guy, has turned me off to any of his movies. Same for Arnold. He's not a sodomite, but he banged his butt-ugly maid. What's up with that? What a loser.

Blogger English Tom July 28, 2018 9:52 AM  


I read the article (I think via anonymousconservative) by Natalie Woods sister. She claimed Wood was raped at 16. Natalie, her sister and her mother drove to a hotel and the sister and mum waited in the CAR for FOUR hours! I think the mum knew exactly what she was putting her daughter through.

Parental enabling of your own child's sexual abuse. I think this happens a lot in (((Hollywood))). How sick are some people?

And what shall it profit a man (or woman) if he should gain the whole world and lose his own soul.

Blogger English Tom July 28, 2018 9:54 AM  


I never made it clear. The 4 hour wait was termed an audition.

Blogger English Tom July 28, 2018 9:57 AM  

@Jeff aka Orville


Now there's a word!

Blogger English Tom July 28, 2018 10:00 AM  

@Jeff aka Orville

Re: Schwarzenneger banging his maid.

I believe the correct term to describe this is it was a 'Sexual Emergency.'

Apparently there's been an epidemic of it in Europe for the last few years.

Blogger Amy July 28, 2018 10:10 AM  

I’m hardened for it, too, but it’s a downer.

I wonder about these Hollywood marriages and relationships. Like the film America’s Sweethearts, where Cusack and Zeta-Jones break upbut it’s unpopular in the press, so her agent tries to force them back together for good optics. They’re all just broken people being told what to do, being handled and mismanaged and abused. Certainly there are starlet types who seek fame at any cost, and maybe half willingly go along to get along, but there must be a few sincere people who have their whole lives shattered by this stuff.

It’s sad to see otherwise pretty enough girls get used up and thrown out by the Hollywood meat grinder. Tara Reid was a cute Jersey girl who probably had to suck miles of Jew d*** for her fleeting fame, and now her beauty and youth are gone, along with her fame. So many others but she was the first that popped into my head.

Divorces? Shams, or are those famous people divorcing to protect loved ones, children, non famous spouses, from these activities? Like, “I’m involved in some bad stuff, you gotta get away from me” type stuff. Maybe a small portion of it. That, and certainly the fleshly temptations of women throwing themselves at you now that you’re famous. Or just shame and regret, over casting couch appearances.

Follow Neds Atomic Dustbin’s advice: Kill. Your. Television.

I know many/most have already.

Blogger SergeiSiminov84 July 28, 2018 10:30 AM  

"I wonder about these Hollywood marriages and relationships."

Hell (pun intended), I would not be surprised if the control freak "Hollywood mafia bosses" toyed with celebrity marriages at times, simply to see what they could get away with.

Even if the celebrity declined the offer & the marriage fell apart nonetheless; such an outcome would still be more amusement / entertainment for the folk at the top of the 'pyramid'.

Blogger Hammerli 280 July 28, 2018 10:43 AM  

It's long been known that a certain number of Hollywood marriages are purely for PR. That's old news.

The big problem is that there are relatively few acting jobs, and a lot of people seeking them. Very attractive people. Which means that if you have control over those jobs, it's terribly easy to abuse the power.

It's one thing to use that power to snap up a hot wife. It's quite another thing to use it to maintain a harem...and far, far worse to use it to protect a rapist.

Blogger Vaughan Williams July 28, 2018 11:22 AM  

@29 what they are doing is not "maintaining a harem". Marriage is marriage, whether one wife or several, and it is holy. Sloppy seconds, dirty thirds, double dipping, gang-bangs and orgies... don't refer to those things as "maintaining a harem".

Blogger VD July 28, 2018 11:49 AM  

don't refer to those things as "maintaining a harem".

Don't tell other people what to do here, or you won't be commenting here long.

Blogger Chesapean July 28, 2018 12:52 PM  

RE: "it's just a matter of time before the first big crack in the dam of information about the Hollywood pedos appears."

When the dam breaks, how will mainstream conservatives react?

They won't be able to say, "We told you so," because they didn't.

They won't be able to rationalize the pedophilia, because no one can.

They won't be able to dismiss the allegations as "just" a conspiracy theory, because a pedophilia-driven kakistocracy really _is_ a conspiracy.

They _will_ gnash their teeth and wail with lamentations.

We should probably be prepared with some science and history on the topics of child rearing and intentional abuse. What do we reliably know?

Blogger Thought Criminal July 28, 2018 1:24 PM  

#9 Had the misfortune to have to work with Dan Schneider and Bryan Singer. Two disgusting individuals indeed.

Also waiting patiently for the day when they finally toss Vin Diesel out of the closet. Another little industry secret.

Blogger Joe July 28, 2018 2:23 PM  

"I suspect you are correct. But controlled burns have been known to get out of control."

That's for certain. When they hog-tied Weinstein for the angry mob, it's as if they ran right past him to go find the child molesters.

Blogger SciVo July 28, 2018 2:36 PM  

rws wrote:Also waiting patiently for the day when they finally toss Vin Diesel out of the closet. Another little industry secret.

Hmm. I looked for his old D&D character for clues, and it was a witch hunter with a name ripped off from The Silmarillion, which sounds more adolescent than gay.

But in the course of looking that up, I found out that he grew up in a New York artists' community, and his relationship with one of the other players sounds a little... off. But I'll admit that I'm not the best judge, because I'm not exactly normal myself, so here's the quote:

VIN: It”s hard right now in the face of technology. You can tell that Gary Gygax was kind of fighting the wave of technology because that”s something that you”ll never get again. Because when we played you never had that option, you could never download an MMO. So if there were humans that you knew that were willing to commit to going into this fantasy world? It was just priceless. I used to ride on my bike when I was 15 on the west side of downtown New York, and in the middle of the night I would ride to pick up my friend just so he would D&D with me. I would ride my bike at midnight just to go put him on my handlebars and bring him back to play [the game with] me. And I was like, “When I”m rich, I”ll pay you” and he”d say to me, “Well, Vin, what would you want in return?” and I”d say, “Everything.”

Blogger Joe July 28, 2018 2:59 PM  

"I read the article (I think via anonymousconservative) by Natalie Woods sister. "

Also of note is that she was "petrified" by fear of drowning, and lo and behold, how did she die? It's one of the red flags for ritual abuse and death.

Blogger DonReynolds July 28, 2018 3:12 PM  

The sins YOU commit, two by two....YOU must pay for one by one.

Blogger Jew613 July 28, 2018 5:00 PM  

English Tom, the producer who raped Natalie Wood was evil, but her mother was far worse. I can understand doing bad things for money, but to her own daughter? Truly there are people the world is better off without. Its mentioned in Fatal Voyage that part of Natalie Wood's success is her mother made her do anything she was asked and more. I'm pretty sure I know exactly what that means.

Blogger Attila is my bro July 28, 2018 5:59 PM  

I think guys like Arnold and Bill Clinton, who went after 4s and 5s, do so because they have a deep seated shame about whoring around. That's good and effective with regular guys, who just abstain out of fear of getting caught, complications with their marriages, divorce rapper, etc. But it forces guys with power to go looking for what they think are "safe" options.

Arnold is no alpha. I mean, Maria Shriver? She was a 6 at most in her prime. And Hillary? I shudder just thinking about how Bill ended up with her. And look how Arnold ended his tough conservative talk after a short period as governor - totally malleable and weak. But there's your pattern. Ugly or average wives at best, and banging ugly, "safe" women when their shrike wives don't put out. Arnold is no alpha.

Blogger Feather Blade July 29, 2018 3:31 PM  

I wonder about these Hollywood marriages and relationships.

It always seemed like it was the movie stars (rather than the TV stars) who couldn't hold onto a relationship for more than 2 years, so I always chalked it up to them treating the relationship like any other acting job.

And since none of them of them ever had any practice at staying in character for more than 18 months, of course it would fall apart.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 29, 2018 4:59 PM  


"We should probably be prepared with some science and history on the topics of child rearing and intentional abuse. What do we reliably know?"

It's the leading cause of the most severe forms of mental illness and personality disorders.

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