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Sunday, July 15, 2018

Well, he is

The usual suspects are upset at an MMA champion acknowledging the obvious:
MMA fighter Conor McGregor has sparked outraged after labelling Vladimir Putin 'one of the greatest leaders of our time' after meeting him at the World Cup Final.

McGregor posted the inflammatory photo to his 24 million Instagram followers on Sunday showing him posing with the Russian top dog ahead of kick off at the Luzhniki Stadium.

In the photo's caption, the multi-millionaire fighter said he was 'honored to attend the event' and said he had been invited as Putin's personal guest.

But his antics didn't go down all that well on social media, as several online commentators blasted him for accepting the invitation.
Remember, his critics are the kind of people who slavered over Stalin and Hitler back in their day. But what world leader seriously compares to the likes of Putin, Xi, and the God Emperor? Merkel? May? Trudeau?

The eight years of unmitigated failure known as Obama?

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76 Comments:

Blogger Ferdinand July 15, 2018 4:24 PM  

Everyone who can keep in power for as long as Putin has in Russia with it's enormous corruption, has to be a special man, period.

Blogger Michael Maier July 15, 2018 4:30 PM  

These craven worms aren't fit to lick Putin's boots.

Blogger Tim from Nashua July 15, 2018 4:37 PM  

He never said that Putin was a saint, he just stated a fact. I would put him up there with Trump and Netanyahu as a great leader of our time. They all seem to have many of the same enemies in the West.

Blogger Barbarossa July 15, 2018 4:54 PM  

This is just primal human instinct at work. Subtract politics, ideology, etc. out of the equation and simply compare a photo of Putin to Merkel, or, if you think the male-female power thing is too unfair, compare Putin to Trudeau le fils. Which guy would you want covering your six in a fight? Which guy would you not want to have on the other side if you were in a fight? The craggy-faced Russian or the exhausted post-menopausal hausfrau (Merkel not Trudeau, just to be clear).

Blogger Jew613 July 15, 2018 4:57 PM  

Putin relentlessly pursues the interests and good of his nation. They may not be our interests but he acts as a leader should. As far as boogeyman go the deep state needs to find someone better then Putin.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart July 15, 2018 4:57 PM  

He is indeed. As are Trump, Orban, Duterte. Likely Salvini, Kurz ; yet unproven. The coven of Merkel, May, etc.? Nah, what are you smoking. Now... We will see how influential (childless, posterity lacking) Macron will be. He has a good chance, albeit on the "wrong" side of history. And definitely how great Boris *could* become, if he finally decided to put his leadership skills above his entertainer values.

Blogger Miguel July 15, 2018 4:58 PM  

Blasphemous Mac is right on that one.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 15, 2018 5:00 PM  

How many children does Putin have?

Blogger Azimus July 15, 2018 5:03 PM  

Technically it was mitigated by frequent vacations...

Blogger Barbarossa July 15, 2018 5:10 PM  

Putin has two daughters. More importantly, he has a brand of vodka named after him.

Blogger jdgalt July 15, 2018 5:19 PM  

The leader I'd compare to Putin is Kim Jong Un. Each is not only a dictator but is so desperate to seem accepted outside his own country that he's willing to make public appearances with any pathetic also-ran foreigner who can make a claim, however dubious, of celebrity status.

Blogger DonReynolds July 15, 2018 5:29 PM  

After the fall of the Soviet Union, the great leader who emerged was Boris Yeltsin, the new president of the independent Russian state. That he managed the aftermath so well, without descending into a new civil war, led to him being offered the title of Grand Duke, which he refused. But Boris turned out to be too crude and too Russian (nationalist) for the Leftist Liberal snobs in the West and he soon fell out of favor. Stalin was more to their liking....and he defeated the Nazis.

A good many of those who despise Putin today on the Left today were in fact Maoists, which is rarely mentioned. It was simply exciting for them to have a strong communist leader in China (of all places) and his treatment of reactionary and bourgeoisie elements with death or exile to re-education camps, made the Leftists cream in their jeans. Yes, they still nurse that dream for their own country. Maybe Hillary was supposed to do that with her own Cultural Revolution, where Obama failed.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart July 15, 2018 5:29 PM  

@jdgalt, you're certifiably nuts. Putin is many things, but the one thing he is NOT, is even interested, let alone "desperate," for foreign recognition. You must have confused him with 0bama, or Merkel, or May, orange maybe even with "Harry Windsor" the White Knight who makes diverse divorcees into "honest"' women.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart July 15, 2018 5:30 PM  

^ or maybe....., wish there was an edit function. Yeah yeah I know I know....

Blogger tuberman July 15, 2018 5:35 PM  

@13

He's just a weak troll, they are getting more and more stupid these days. Pay is likely less, or even nothing.

That effort should embarrass, but i will not.

Blogger Robert Coble July 15, 2018 5:37 PM  

Putin has two daughters (maybe) from his first marriage, and possibly a son by the "First Mistress" (who actually might be his second wife). Shhhh, it's a long-time Russian state secret.

Great leaders are necessarily NOT among the Trigglypuff contingent. They convey a vision for their followers and drive toward achieving it, with an almost monomaniacal focus. As for the naysayers, they only exist as potential paving material along the road to the goal.

Putin is GREAT (and so is PDJT) for operating by this simple motto: LEAD, FOLLOW OR GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY! Those who fail to adhere to that philosophy end up being run over by the train - and the train is FINE.

I'm always amused by the Idiocracy (Ideocracy?) whining about Putin being a former KGB Colonel. SO WHAT?!? The same idiots had no problem with the elevation of GHWB to President after a stint as head of the CIA - January 30, 1976 – January 20, 1977.

Blogger Nathan July 15, 2018 5:41 PM  

"The eight years of unmitigated failure known as Obama?"

One thing I'm looking forward too is the gradual retconning of the Obama presidency from being a successful left-wing administration to the more historically accurate total disaster.

Blogger tuberman July 15, 2018 5:44 PM  

17.

For many of us, that's already happened. Conner's post was cool.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 15, 2018 5:47 PM  

The leader I'd compare to Putin is Kim Jong Un. Each is not only a dictator but … blather lie blather

Russia is a freer country than the US these days.

Blogger Angantyr July 15, 2018 5:56 PM  

Obama was only a failure in that he did not complete his subversion and destruction of the United States when his heir apparent, Felonia von Pantsuit, failed to win a rigged election...

Blogger Ian Stein July 15, 2018 6:12 PM  

I bet Putin showed him some judo holds Connor could use in the octagon. Steven Seagall used to hang out with Putin also. As did Ivan Drago in the KGB days.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 6:38 PM  

@5

"Putin relentlessly pursues the interests and good of his nation. They may not be our interests but he acts as a leader should. As far as boogeyman go the deep state needs to find someone better then Putin."

I can't think of a single thing that Putin does that is against the interests of the American people.

Against the interests of the American deep-state? Tons. But Putin is no threat to the common American.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 6:45 PM  

@11

"The leader I'd compare to Putin is Kim Jong Un. Each is not only a dictator but is so desperate to seem accepted outside his own country that he's willing to make public appearances with any pathetic also-ran foreigner who can make a claim, however dubious, of celebrity status."

insert "everyone is stupider for having [read] it" quote.

Russia has no need for ANY foreign interaction, save for Syria, so that it has a place to put it's navy that is free of ice in the winter.

They have ZERO need for imports. There is not a single strategic or economically important mineral which is not inside Russia's borders. They have so much, they export raw materials.

You truly don't understand Russia in the slightest if you think ANY Russian leader has ever thought, for even a moment, about gaining the approval of foreigners, other than, say, for a temporary, tactical political situation. And no such thing exists for Russia at the present.

NATO is going to implode soon. Russia will soon have dominance over Eastern Europe, as even the Poles would rather have Russia as guarantor of their safety and freedom from invasion than the pack of jackals who meet in Brussels.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 15, 2018 6:48 PM  

16.7k likes last I checked

Blogger gunner451 July 15, 2018 6:52 PM  

But Putin isn't a commie so he's bad, right? In actuality though he has been pretty impressive in maneuvering around the western powers (US and Obama in particular) with the weak hand that he has. Hell the US has more aircraft in Syria than he does, any US aircraft carrier has more air power than he has in Syria, etc. yet he's managed to dominate the agenda there and lead in the war against ISIS. The neocons (read Jews for the most part) hate his guts because he's getting in the way of the Saudi/Israeli master plan to dominate both the middle-east and the natural gas sold to Europe so no surprise that the media elite hate him and have been on a bender pumping out propaganda about Russia as the new Nazis.

It was also pretty slick how he's tied up NATO with his taking Crimera back from Ukraine and forced them to spend a bunch of money moving troops around Eastern Europe. He has his faults but overall I don't see anyone nearly as capable as him of the world stage. His one major problem is his tolerance of the Russian Oligarchs and allowing them to rob Russia blind. I'm sure that he's made a ton of money off of them but it has kept his country from really economically growing.

Blogger Attila is my bro July 15, 2018 8:03 PM  

A couple of years ago Orban was incessantly criticised for attempting to deal with Putin on trade, etc. That's when I knew Putin was legit.

Blogger David The Good July 15, 2018 8:11 PM  

I don't understand why people hate Putin. I've always thought he was doing a good job for his country.

Blogger Brett baker July 15, 2018 8:31 PM  

"He may be a son of a bitch, but he's OUR son of a bitch" is how 41 gets a pass.

Blogger Brett baker July 15, 2018 8:33 PM  

"He may be a son of a bitch, but he's OUR son of a bitch" is how 41 gets a pass.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 8:35 PM  

@12

"After the fall of the Soviet Union, the great leader who emerged was Boris Yeltsin, the new president of the independent Russian state."

Yeltsin was already President of Russia.

What he did was say, "As President of Russia, I'm REMOVING us from the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, because I think the USSR sucks."

And the next morning, Gorbechev found out that he was the Premier of a bunch of satellites, with no central body holding it together.

Yeltsin pulled the rug out from under Gorbechev, in the most elegant manner, and legally, too.

Sly fox, he was.

And even though he was a heavy drinker, he insisted that ALL of his staff participate in a daily, morning soccer game. Those who were too hung over to show up and play got fired.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 8:39 PM  

@14

"^ or maybe....., wish there was an edit function. Yeah yeah I know I know...."

Lack of an edit function keeps dishonest people from going back and editing something stupid or unnecessarily provocative that they wrote, after people have replied, in an attempt to make the repliers look stupid or crazy.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 8:43 PM  

@16

"I'm always amused by the Idiocracy (Ideocracy?) whining about Putin being a former KGB Colonel. SO WHAT?!? The same idiots had no problem with the elevation of GHWB to President after a stint as head of the CIA - January 30, 1976 – January 20, 1977."

If the Soviets had had a KGB colonel or higher as head of state, he would have rightly ended the entire farce a lot sooner. Gorbechev was still trying to make it work, even after Yeltsin had absolutely smashed it with a sledgehammer.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 8:45 PM  

@19

"Russia is a freer country than the US these days."

TRVTH!

Blogger James Donahue July 15, 2018 8:45 PM  

I regard President Vlaidimir Vladimirovich Putin as a man uniquely qualified for his position in this time. His mother was 43 years of age at his birth. Both parents were alive in the Great Patriotic War, his father was in the military. President Putin says his parents didn't talk much about it, but the numbers are staggering. IIRC, 90% of the men between 18 and 43 died in that war. Whatever the numbers were, the cost was dreadful, and it is good and sobering to be in contact with those who were there. President Putin has said of Stalingrad, the area where his father served, There is probably more metal in the ground there than any other place.
As for his former intelligence career, remember the hostility put toward him by President Obama. Interesting how after the latter's departure, Russian passenger planes aren't suffering explosions as before. Sure, correlation does not equal causality, but it's a safe bet that there are those who wish him harm. His prior service and contacts serve him well for security.
The culture is different in Russia; president Putin hosts an annual dinner with awards for the largest families in the Russian Federation. He is present, and gives the awards himself.

Blogger John Calla July 15, 2018 8:51 PM  

Trump and Putin will, in short time, agree to some kind of framework to reduce nuclear weapons stockpiles between the two countries. In hating the warmer dialogue between the two countries, the Democrats will be forced to explain why they are against a nuclear-weapons free world.

Between abolishing ICE, doting on MS-13, coddling pedosexual perversion, pushing transgender therapy for 7-year-olds, removing all borders, rolling back the tax cuts, torpedoing the economy and now wiping out the entire planet with nukes... the Democrats have one hell of a platform to run on in 2020.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 8:55 PM  

@27

"I don't understand why people hate Putin. I've always thought he was doing a good job for his country."

He is. And that's PRECISELY why the Creep-State hates him.

Blogger Lovekraft July 15, 2018 8:58 PM  

I see the Russia-bashing as attempts to distract from the Middle East/Israeli influence.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 8:58 PM  

@34

" President Putin has said of Stalingrad, the area where his father served, There is probably more metal in the ground there than any other place."

So many Red Army soldiers died at Stalingrad that, to this very day, it is a federal crime to do ANY research to determine the number killed.

The numbers probably make Dachau and Belsen-Belsen look like a mere bit of schoolyard bullying.

Blogger James Oakes July 15, 2018 9:00 PM  

Putin's skill is one of the main reasons Russia punches so much above its weight in world affairs. It's hard to believe he does so much with a country with an economy smaller and an industry less diversified than Brazil's. (Hard to believe that, I know, but it's true. Look it up).

Blogger Brad Matthews July 15, 2018 9:04 PM  

How cool would it be to hang out with Putin at the world cup in russia as a personal guest because you are a fighter? Fucking epic and I'm not ashamed to say I am envious.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 9:09 PM  

@37

"I see the Russia-bashing as attempts to distract from the Middle East/Israeli influence."

No, it's sincere.

They HATE communism-free Russia.

Blogger Frank Brady July 15, 2018 9:09 PM  

Putin is NOT a dictator and Russia will shortly be more Christian than the U.S. if it is not so already.

Blogger Mark Stoval July 15, 2018 9:11 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:@14

"^ or maybe....., wish there was an edit function. Yeah yeah I know I know...."

Lack of an edit function keeps dishonest people from going back and editing something stupid or unnecessarily provocative that they wrote, after people have replied, in an attempt to make the repliers look stupid or crazy.


Yes, that is the main reason. But it also makes some of us slow down and read what we wrote a couple of times. That probably leads to better comments overall.

Blogger English Tom July 15, 2018 10:05 PM  

@Barbarrosa

I'm glad you made that clear!

Blogger ZhukovG July 15, 2018 10:13 PM  

In 1999, the year Boris Yeltsin resigned from the Russian Presidency, the GDP of the Russian Federation was 195.9 billion USD. By comparison, India's economy was over twice as large at 464.3 billion USD.

In 2017, the Russian Federation had a GDP of 1.579 Trillion USD (nominal)/4.007 Trillion USD (PPP). For comparison, in terms of GDP(PPP), Russia ranks just behind Germany.

It appears that Vladimir Putin has been very good for the Russian economy, despite continuing efforts by Globalists to disrupt it.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 15, 2018 10:15 PM  

Brad Matthews, of course Conor got to hang with Putin. Even Gorbachev stood up at the end of the fight and applauded when Drago was getting hammered.

Blogger DonReynolds July 15, 2018 10:21 PM  

James Oakes wrote:Putin's skill is one of the main reasons Russia punches so much above its weight in world affairs. It's hard to believe he does so much with a country with an economy smaller and an industry less diversified than Brazil's. (Hard to believe that, I know, but it's true. Look it up).

The population of the Russian Federation is slightly over 140 million and holding, less than half the population of the USA.
.
To compare, the population of Japan is about 130 million, on an island about the same size as California.

Blogger Lazarus July 15, 2018 10:27 PM  

But his antics didn't go down all that well on social media

If you read this line from the writer, you accepted this characterization, you may have become a victim of Fake News, which can lead to Post Fake News Stress Disorder. (PFNSD)

Seek help.

Blogger het1 July 15, 2018 10:39 PM  

Of course many people are admiring Putin now.
Far less would agree to live in the feudal country- mafia state. Where cronies of the neo-tzar have all rights (and zero ‎responsibility), but common people have none.
Comparing Putin with Kim is quite correct.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 15, 2018 10:55 PM  

Absolutely not. The comparison is laughable, and proves you're an idiot, het1.

Blogger SciVo July 15, 2018 10:59 PM  

Well Russia has always been a crafty rival/competitor, but we're allies with Germany and Japan now too. So the American left's Sudden-Onset Russophobia is just comical.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas July 15, 2018 11:20 PM  

@42:

Russia is almost 20% Muslim and growing rapidly.

It's more "white" than the US but it's not at all homogenous.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 15, 2018 11:25 PM  

What's the spread of Muslim population in Russia? All in the south near Chechnya?

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 11:39 PM  

When it comes to living in a mafia state, the Russians come nowhere close to the Ukrainians.

In Russia there are mafia-infestations within the government
In Ukraine, the mafia is openly in control.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas July 15, 2018 11:39 PM  

Moscow is about 15% Muslim and growing. The number of mosques has doubled just within the past few years.

This article from a Russian source puts the Muslim pop at almost 2 million: https://www.rbth.com/politics_and_society/2017/03/13/should-muscovites-fear-muslims_718753

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 11:40 PM  

Kiev...and Ukraine has never successfully thrown off the Mongol yoke.

Moscow and Russia did.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 15, 2018 11:41 PM  

and by the way, I'm 1/4 Ukrainian, and 0% Russian....
so, don't think I have any hereditary or familial bias towards Russia.

There's a REASON that side of the family left and came to the U.S.

Blogger ZhukovG July 15, 2018 11:52 PM  

@Nikephoros II Phokas: Do you have a link for that 20% Muslim figure? The info I have is from 2012 putting Muslims at just 6.5 percent. Which is a decrease from 2007 when they were 8.5 percent.

Also the Russian Federation is almost 80% ethnic Russian. The largest minority is Tatar at just 5%.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 15, 2018 11:53 PM  

"Yeltsin was already President of Russia.

What he did was say, "As President of Russia, I'm REMOVING us from the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, because I think the USSR sucks."

And the next morning, Gorbechev found out that he was the Premier of a bunch of satellites, with no central body holding it together.

Yeltsin pulled the rug out from under Gorbechev, in the most elegant manner, and legally, too."

@Dirk Manly
Yup, I read that the secession of the RSFSR is what killed the Soviet Union. And saved the Baltics, who had seceded not long before.

How ironic that the Soviet Union allowed secession, even providing for it in its constitution, and allowing it to happen -- while the USA doesn't.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 16, 2018 12:02 AM  

The comparison is laughable, and proves you're an idiot, het1.
No, he's Ukraininan.

And an idiot.

Blogger het1 July 16, 2018 12:29 AM  

To Dirk Manly.

> I'm 1/4 Ukrainian, and 0% Russian

Funny. Ukrainian is just Western Russians. There are no genetic difference between them. And cultural difference is very little.

Blogger Da Man July 16, 2018 12:30 AM  

Dov H. Levin is a Post Doctoral Fellow in the Institute for Politics and Strategy at Carnegie-Mellon University studied over about a 50-year period in the last century and found 81 times that the u.s. interfered
in other countries elections so we all
do it.

Neo-Cons and globalist just could not resist poking the bear when it lay prostrate. Well now its up on it's feet again and they think a longer NATO stick will preserve their leverage. The one thing President Trump shares with Russian President Vladimir Putin is hatred of the aforemetioned group. What that will equate to I do not know, but one thing is for sure. It will not be business as usual.

Nationalism in Russia or part
of the reason is we promised them
when James Baker at the end of the cold war when Germany
reunified we promised them that we
wouldn't go one inch eastward of Germany
with NATO. Since President Clinton we've crept up on the
borders, we still have neo cons in both
parties who want Ukraine and Georgia to
be in NATO. That's been very provocative if not ouright hostile and it has stimulated encouraged
nationalism in Russia.

George Kennan diplomat and historian best known for his successful advocacy of a “containment policy” to oppose Soviet expansionism following World War II.
He predicted this in 1998 when we still had
Yeltsin and the Russia was still coming
in our direction, he said if you push NATO up against
Russia's borders nationalism will rise
and their militaristic tendencies will
increase. He also warned you may get someone like a
Putin, so basically George Kennan predicted
the rise of a Putin in 1998.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas July 16, 2018 1:35 AM  

@ZhukovG:

There aren't any official census numbers after 2012 because they stopped asking about religion. The census numbers also don't include the millions of legal and illegal Muslims working in the country.

But there are plenty of places to look for an estimate. Here's an RT article from 2016 claiming 20 million and 15% of the population.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/news/349499-fitr-moscow-muslims-celebrate/amp/

Muslim leaders now put the number closer to 25 million, which is nearing 20%. Like I mentioned, the number of mosques in Moscow had doubled from 4 to 8 just since 2015.

Keep in mind that the Muslim groups in Russia have 5 to 10 children per woman. Non-Muslims barely have 1 each.

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 16, 2018 2:46 AM  

World Cup hangover news:

Two reported dead in French celebrations of victory. Mmm....

South African black townspeople are burning their rapist neighbors to death. So ethnic food isn’t the only thing we can learn from diversity?

Musk calls some Brit guy a pedo for dissing his cave submarine (as a former caver I’m with the Brit guy, it sounds like a bad idea). Is #PedoYou the new #MeToo?

Blogger S. Thermite July 16, 2018 3:58 AM  

So ethnic food isn’t the only thing we can learn from diversity?

Heh, the acceptance of other cultures for their culinary styles adds a whole new meaning to “curry favor.”

Blogger Dirk Manly July 16, 2018 8:02 AM  

@61

"Funny. Ukrainian is just Western Russians. There are no genetic difference between them. And cultural difference is very little."

Yes, genetically, the same.

Culturally, very different.

There is NOBODY like Yuri Dolgoruki in Ukrainian history. NOBODY from Kiev ever sent the Mongol tax collectors back home with their heads in sacks.

There's a HUGE amount of animosity between Ukrainians and Russians for people who are the same tribe.

Here's what I've noticed ... every time there's a newspaper report that an American man has wound up dead after marrying "a Russian woman" (and she has been part of the reason for his demise), it has turned out that the woman was from Ukraine, not Russia.

The amount of criminality in Ukraine dwarfs what there is in Russia. I would honestly rather go to a war zone again than to go to Ukraine -- better chance of survival.

Blogger het1 July 16, 2018 8:05 AM  

To Snidely Whiplash

> Russia is a freer country than the US these days.

Oh, yes. Slavery is Freedom. War is Peace. Ignorance is Strength. (Orwell)

To ZhukovG

> In 2017, the Russian Federation had a GDP of 1.579 Trillion USD (nominal)/4.007 Trillion USD (PPP). For comparison, in terms of GDP(PPP), Russia ranks just behind Germany.

Oh, yes, this is good numbers.

But average salary in Russia is lesser than 500 euro. (average salary, say, in Poland is 1075 euro). But there are 106 $-billionaires in Russia (second place after USA).
But villages in central (ethnical) Russian regions are dying.
But there are huge financial supply from the government to Chechnya and other Muslim-populated regions in Russia.
But 1/3 of young Russians want to leave country (https://lenta.ru/news/2018/07/02/uletay/)

To Snidely Whiplash

> No, he's Ukraininan.

Trolls from Olgino always lies, isn't it?
"To lie, to lie, something will remains",- as have said d-r Goebbels, your teacher.

Blogger VD July 16, 2018 8:21 AM  

But 1/3 of young Russians want to leave country

Young people are stupid. They are very susceptible to grass-is-greener illusions.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 16, 2018 8:59 AM  

"Funny. Ukrainian is just Western Russians."

And Poles are simply Roman Catholic Russians... right? Ukrainians are in fact significantly darker. Likely because Russians are more Finnic and Ukrainians more Turkic.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 16, 2018 9:04 AM  

"Keep in mind that the Muslim groups in Russia have 5 to 10 children per woman. Non-Muslims barely have 1 each."

@Nikephoros
Birth rate in Chechnya is 2.6 children per woman. Not "5 to 10". And they have the highest birth rate in Russia. In Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, where most of the poorest Muslim immigrants come from, it's about three, about the same as Guatemala or Honduras, but nowhere the levels you see in northern Nigeria.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 16, 2018 9:08 AM  

@69

""Funny. Ukrainian is just Western Russians."

And Poles are simply Roman Catholic Russians... right? Ukrainians are in fact significantly darker. Likely because Russians are more Finnic and Ukrainians more Turkic."

There's a higher percentage of blondes in Ukraine than in Russia. A large enough difference that you don't even need to look at statistics -- it's evident just by looking.

Blogger Shimshon July 16, 2018 9:10 AM  

@68 "Young people are stupid. They are very susceptible to grass-is-greener illusions."

Ever the pessimist, Vox, you wanted to move someplace where the grass was browner first.

Blogger Nate73 July 16, 2018 12:22 PM  

What really red-pilled me about women working is that women do worse than men even in things that don't depend on musculature - NASCAR, chess, and Starcraft. If men and women are the same mentally then why can't women be chess champions?

Blogger Desdichado July 16, 2018 12:30 PM  

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/15/vladimir-putin-hogs-umbrella-at-world-cup-leaves-emmanuel-macron-in-the-rain/

Speaking of, this made me laugh.

Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas July 16, 2018 1:19 PM  

VFM #7634:

Youre probably right, I saw something earlier that said 5 for Tatars and 10 for Chechens but it was likely per man.

Polygamy is legal in the Muslim regions, so 2.5 kids per wife and a few wives would put them in that 5 to 10 region per man.

Blogger Sardaukar July 16, 2018 10:57 PM  

Thought this was interesting regarding Putin-
http://www.unz.com/article/examining-the-hatred-of-vladimir-putin-and-russia/

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