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Friday, September 21, 2018

AH:Q - the third page

Six days left. The story continues. Back the Alt-Hero: Q campaign here.


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19 Comments:

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction September 21, 2018 9:13 AM  

The artwork is really good, I especially like the coloring, it's fantastic.

Consider me signed up.

Blogger The Observer September 21, 2018 9:20 AM  

Accusations of poor art quality have indeed largely dried up of late. And now this -- the artist is certainly a cut above.

Blogger Ken Prescott September 21, 2018 9:22 AM  

The artwork and coloring aren't "really good."

They're perfection. They perfectly lay out a sense of place, mood, and story question.

It's the visual equivalent of the late Don LaFontaine's "In a world . . . " opening hook for a movie trailer.

Blogger VD September 21, 2018 9:23 AM  

Accusations of poor art quality have indeed largely dried up of late.

I promised the backers that we would continue to seek improvement. Just wait until Avalon #3 comes out. New illustrator and new colorist.

And we're seeking improvement on all fronts, not just the art.

Blogger Silent Draco September 21, 2018 9:55 AM  

Art and lettering are good,and appear to be way above the current market. Story premise and setting are excellent. Major and continued improvements to dialogue and "show not tell" scenes. Much accomplished by character positions and actions. Yes, we will continue to make comments and feedback on what customers want.

You're at a verbal skill level similar to a friend's aviation level, his case is command pilot for 4 engine large jets and command pilot for helos. You make the transition from 900 page novels to 24 page graphic books look deceptively smooth. No wonder the shilling is so ludicrous and desperate.

What's left? Parallel parking a train or an ocean liner?

Blogger VD September 21, 2018 10:05 AM  

You make the transition from 900 page novels to 24 page graphic books look deceptively smooth.

I'll never be a natural wordsmith like Tanith Lee or Bruce Bethke, or a literary genius like John C. Wright, but I have always been amused by the SJWs hurling "ur a bad riter" accusations. It never bothered me because I know perfectly well what my limitations are, what I can do, and what I can't do.

I was explaining to a friend who prefers AH to CDA why The Legend Chuck Dixon's writing in CDA is better than mine in AH. Even if you happen to prefer the story and characters of the former, and that is a perfectly legitimate preference, the depth of the relationship drama in the latter is more profound than anything I'm able to write.

And the fact that he did it so rapidly while introducing brand new characters is what makes him The Legend.

Blogger pdwalker September 21, 2018 10:48 AM  

Sweet. Glad I backed this one.

Blogger S. Misanthrope September 21, 2018 10:52 AM  

It’s been said but hot damn, that is some truly top-notch art. And of course the writing...I think I held my breathe the whole page.

Blogger James Dixon September 21, 2018 10:52 AM  

> Even if you happen to prefer the story and characters of the former, and that is a perfectly legitimate preference, the depth of the relationship drama in the latter is more profound than anything I'm able to write.

You've seen more of CDA than we have, Vox. We've only seen the first two issues. Strictly from those issues, that's not obvious. I'll take your word for the matter though.

Blogger doctrev September 21, 2018 11:49 AM  

The visuals are at least as good as anything I've ever read. And given how strange the Q saga is, never mind how relentlessly Alt-Hero subverts the expectations of a simple hard-right fantasy book, only a fool would be able to predict exactly what will happen.

Serious question: is the reader going to need as much brain bleach as the protagonist will? I don't actually know if the writers believe that the viewer must look at evil to confront it (which perverted freakshows like Garth Ennis exploit mercilessly), or if merely being aware of the concepts will be sufficient.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira September 21, 2018 12:45 PM  

The pedo-hunting begins

Blogger VD September 21, 2018 1:31 PM  

I don't actually know if the writers believe that the viewer must look at evil to confront it.

Only when people insist on denying evil's existence.

Blogger Silent Draco September 21, 2018 2:08 PM  

Vox, agree about The Legend - Chuck awes me more with every new or rediscovered product. The SDL, being a generalist Lord, sits high above the average. It's good example to keep upping my short presentation game, as I favor long form but was heavy on data and text.

I accept the challenge and example that it can be done, but will up my personal style and not attempt to merely copy. Learn by example and teach in turn. Once again, the SDL demonstrates his generosity, which further irks SJWs.

Blogger InformationMerchant September 21, 2018 2:09 PM  

Not to get too hung up on semantics, I don't think anyone expected you to be able to match Chuck Dixon on a technical level at comic book writing.

If you and Chuck Dixon had a world series and released a dozen issues of completely new comics against each other, I'm confident that the people here would prefer the comics you write.

Now maybe we can get Chuck Dixon to win by limiting the competition to a series of 6 pages vs 6 pages games, using neutral characters that already exist.

The problem there is we can make you lose that kind of competition against an inferior author by making you both write the Star Wars movies as novels with absolutely no deviation from the movies.

That said, Alt Hero Q is looking very good. Judging by what we've seen and how good you say it is, this might be Arkhaven's best shot at hooking the normies.

I'm curious how lefties will see it. Fox News didn't target the left. It's going to be awkward when cuckservatives have to find a response to their friends on the left recommending Arkhaven comics.

Blogger SirHamster September 21, 2018 4:30 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> Even if you happen to prefer the story and characters of the former, and that is a perfectly legitimate preference, the depth of the relationship drama in the latter is more profound than anything I'm able to write.

You've seen more of CDA than we have, Vox. We've only seen the first two issues. Strictly from those issues, that's not obvious. I'll take your word for the matter though.


The painting of the relationship between Phazer and King Ace in CDA #1 and #2 has a lot of depth to it. You get a sense of history and motivations of each. You see friendship and teamwork, but also discord from conflicting values.

AH hasn't shown off anything at that level yet, and probably won't in that it's more of a bird's eye view.

Which is why it's great we get both storylines. Fun comics.

Blogger James Dixon September 21, 2018 5:00 PM  

> The painting of the relationship between Phazer and King Ace in CDA #1 and #2 has a lot of depth to it.

It's clear there is some depth to it, but the details aren't there yet. But it's also clear there's a lot of depth to the relationships in Rebel's family, just for starters.

Blogger doctrev September 21, 2018 6:38 PM  

VD wrote:I don't actually know if the writers believe that the viewer must look at evil to confront it.

Only when people insist on denying evil's existence.


Well, that ain't me. Thanks for the answer, and the preview.

Subscribed.

Blogger InformationMerchant September 21, 2018 7:44 PM  

We've had 2 of each setting (EU Alt Hero, NA Alt Hero, Avalon).

I'll credit the speed of Dixon's intro, he managed to do clever things with one character's commentary on the first page intro that wasn't even related to him. From there he was able to get a lot done with King Ace and Phazer, he even managed to have a different hero running around doing stuff.

But now we're comparing micro with macro. The EU Alt Hero is dealing with several countries, world building and introducing many characters. We might not have such a close bond between Captain Europa and Rainbow yet, but we've got a rivalry on the individual level. We have a rivalry between Gen I and Antifa on that level. We have nationalism vs globalism with the fates of the EU and every country at stake.

It's possible that captain Europa goes absolutely nuts and leads Antifa in killing enough Gen I members to kill the faction but the country it happens in ends up leaving the EU due to the massacre waking the people up. I much prefer the big picture stuff to the interpersonal relationship stuff.

Now, the NA Alt Hero has more personal stuff. Many of the points I made about EU Alt Hero apply here, but these 2 would be the closest comparison with Avalon. We know VD doesn't have any problems with depth when he writes novels. Remember when Vox thought he had written a couple of pages of dialog that ended up being several times as many pages as he thought? I don't think he was racing Chuck Dixon to see who could kick their readers in the feels the fastest. :P

Blogger Jack Amok September 21, 2018 10:05 PM  

I definitely agree the art is outstanding. And I love Dane's digital... ah, bracers? Manicas? Though the lighting would tend to give a guy away in the dark.

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