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Wednesday, September 12, 2018

Boers out, Chinese in

I expect it won't be too long before South Africa's blacks are pining for the good old days of Apartheid. This period of black self-rule appears likely to be more a brief racial interregnum than anything approaching genuine independence.
There has been some confusion in the energy industry this past week after the announcement that a new coal-powered power plant is planned for Limpopo. According to reports, President Cyril Ramaphosa inked a deal with the Chinese to build a new 4,600-megawatt coal power station during his visit to that country.

This came as a shock, as the brand-new Integrated Resource Plan (IRP) does not include any new coal-fired power plants. It has since emerged that the planned new power plant, called the “Power China International Energy Project”, won’t produce electricity for South African households and business – it will only be used for a massive new Chinese-controlled industrial park.

Earlier this year, nine Chinese companies committed to invest $10 billion in the Musina-Makhado special economic zone at a signing ceremony in Beijing.
Meanwhile, the remaining white South Africans are wondering if they should fight or flee. A South African reader writes:
The previous president (Zuma) was ousted amidst a cloud of corruption, and there are currently parliamentary enquiries into "state capture" by Zuma, his cronies and his super-rich Indian friends the Guptas, including a shady nuclear power deal with the Russians. Even the white South Africans managed to have mass protests against Zuma, and they were all overjoyed when he was replaced with Ramaphosa. Ramaphosa made millions in business - crony capitalism, one suspects - since 1994, and was part owner of the Marikana mine where striking miners were killed by the police a few years ago. Obviously, whites thought he was a coconut and would save them.

But since coming into power, Ramaphosa has been all about expropriating without compensation land from whites, and borrowing like mad from the Chinese. Now every white I speak with will say Zuma was a thief and Ramaphosa is a communist selling his land to the Chinese, but barely any will say - if they even realise - that identity politics cares about them, even if they don't care about identity politics. The rainbow nation non-racial cuckery runs deep in way too many. Whites keep thinking that all South Africans should care about all other South Africans, while the other tribes think whites should pay.

I've also seen first hand how the Chinese operate, having worked abroad on a Chinese operated plant. The owners of the plant and their employees cannot operate the plant, nor maintain it. Everything is done by the Chinese contractors, whose ability to speak English diminishes the more you ask them for information and training. They have the plant owners held hostage, because if they lose the contract they go back to China with all the knowledge and skills required to run this billion dollar project.

Lastly, of those white men who acknowledge racial war in South Africa is imminent, they almost all seem to be in favour of fighting. But I also suspect that 99 percent of them are just windgat - loud-mouths who are more bark than bite. I'm torn between the wisdom of running away to a whiter, safer country with my family; and saying "if you just keep running away, eventually there'll be no place left to run to" and staying to fight. I'm sure the latter is correct, but some positions just aren't defensible, and South Africa is probably not viable for whites absent balkanisation. Emigration is almost certainly the wise option, but I also know it's not feasible for all four or five million whites.
It's probably too late to fight now. The time for the white South Africans to fight was when they still had nukes and control of the army, not when they have no nukes, no army, and the Chinese have decided to colonize the land. At this point, the Boers wouldn't just be fighting the ANC, they'd be fighting the Chinese Red Army defending its very material investments in China's new colony-to-be.

The problem, of course, is that who would want the white South African emigrants? They have proven to be wholly undesirable in any democracy; look at how they celebrated the accession of Ramaphosa to power. Even after losing their own country, they are reliably proving to be more foolish on matters of race and ethnicity than the average white American Democrat, who at least still has the sense to try to keep his children out of vibrant neighborhoods and school districts.

Lest you doubt the Chinese are serious about colonizing Africa:
In what all but amounts to turning Harare into a satellite outpost of Beijing, China has reportedly deployed and installed a dreaded new generation of surface-to- air missiles (SAM) in Zimbabwe, in what is seen as direct preparation for defending her vast economic interests in the country, with a possible signal of ratcheting up future gunboat diplomacy against the competing West.
The irony is that the same white idiots who complained about white imperialism and Sun City are going to declare that the white man has an obligation to rescue the black man from the yellow man. But the white man has laid down his burden and he no longer has the ability to shoulder it.

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167 Comments:

Blogger Nate September 12, 2018 8:10 AM  

the white south africans can come to America. They just can't vote.

hell vox... even if they could vote... do you really think they wouldn't be better and more reliable than average white new Yorker?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 12, 2018 8:11 AM  

Obviously the blacks of Africa only need to approach the Chinese bosses and order them about using the word "racist" that should do the trick.

Blogger VD September 12, 2018 8:13 AM  

do you really think they wouldn't be better and more reliable than average white new Yorker?

New York City Democrat, yes. New York State Democrat, no. Of course, the former is more likely (((white))) than white.

Blogger VD September 12, 2018 8:14 AM  

that should do the trick.

Hey, why not? It worked before.

Blogger Lurker September 12, 2018 8:16 AM  

Boers are the original white niggers. Rhetorical question: Did white Americans commit suicide while taking North America from the Indian?

Blogger Guitar Man September 12, 2018 8:24 AM  

I think most of them would get along fine in Canada.

Blogger Lurker September 12, 2018 8:25 AM  

"At this point, the Boers wouldn't just be fighting the ANC, they'd be fighting the Chinese Red Army defending its very material investments in China's new colony-to-be."

Boers are screwed. Violence between blacks and Boers now has the additional factor of Chinese backing the blacks ie… "Let's you and him fight".

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 8:26 AM  

Nate wrote:the white south africans can come to America. They just can't vote.


We aren't set up to make that work. Their cucked presence would demoralize us, and impede our efforts to decuck our culture. Look at Peter Grant's propaganda; these are not what we want in our midst.

Nate wrote:hell vox... even if they could vote... do you really think they wouldn't be better and more reliable than average white new Yorker?

Herpes looks better than AIDS, but we don't want either. The New York City poz is part of what we must remove. Let's don't import reinforcements for the poz.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 12, 2018 8:28 AM  

One thing about the "white niggers" of Africa they have a far better understanding of blacks then the usual doofus American white, and no not the usual rag on blacks why don't they act white waste of breath crap we hear all day in America.

Blogger #6277Hammer September 12, 2018 8:29 AM  

"Lastly, of those white men who acknowledge racial war in South Africa is imminent, they almost all seem to be in favour of fighting. But I also suspect that 99 percent of them are just windgat - loud-mouths who are more bark than bite."
I'm reminded of a scene in Band of Brothers where a paratrooper eventually confesses that he was hiding in a foxhole when he landed because he was too scared. The officer then tells him no, he didn't hide because he was scared - everyone was scared. He told the paratrooper he was hiding because he still had hope of making it through the war alive. He said once he loses that hope he would fight to death.
I wonder if a similar dynamic is at play with South African whites - they still have hope of surviving. If I knew how to, I'd smash their hope.

Blogger Guitar Man September 12, 2018 8:34 AM  

Lastly, of those white men who acknowledge racial war in South Africa is imminent, they almost all seem to be in favour of fighting. But I also suspect that 99 percent of them are just windgat - loud-mouths who are more bark than bite.

Also true of most of those in the US who claim they'll be first on the front lines when the SHTF and Civil War 2.0 starts.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 8:38 AM  

Lurker wrote:
Boers are screwed. Violence between blacks and Boers now has the additional factor of Chinese backing the blacks ie… "Let's you and him fight".


Unless the Chinese aim is literal colonization, the Chinese would probably prefer to have Boer labor rather than Black labor. Boers won't randomly destroy Chinese assets through retarded incompetance and impulsive violence.

On the other hand, a Boer nation that could stand up to the Blacks would also be a threat to the Chinks. Expect the Chinese to try to preserve White South Africans who are useful, while keeping Blacks in power. Chinese are going to encourage Boer cucking, because cuckservatives can't conserve anything.

Blogger Orthodox September 12, 2018 8:41 AM  

Hand out travel visas like candy to right-wing Boers that want out. Now or never deal. Send them all on vacation to Vermont and New Hampshire to make 4 more GOP Senators.

Blogger Orthodox September 12, 2018 8:42 AM  

the Chinese would probably prefer to have Boer labor rather than Black labor.

Chinese don't need any labor. They're doing all this overseas investment because they have too much labor and production for their own economy. Their trying to use up their spare capacity.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 8:43 AM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:One thing about the "white niggers" of Africa they have a far better understanding of blacks then the usual doofus American white, and no not the usual rag on blacks why don't they act white waste of breath crap we hear all day in America.

Then why didn't they pick their own cotton and mine their own gold? If they had expelled the Blacks and Cape Coloreds after WWII, and kept the darkies out, we wouldn't be having this discussion now.

Sighing ``Africa wins again'' is not yet race realism.

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2018 8:44 AM  

It's been clear for a long time that white South Africans are the biggest cucks on the planet....and the wages of cuckery is death.

Blogger Steve September 12, 2018 8:44 AM  

The problem, of course, is that who would want the white South African emigrants? They have proven to be wholly undesirable in any democracy; look at how they celebrated the accession of Ramaphosa to power.

Worth noting that the party most SA whites vote for - the Democratic Alliance - supports taking land off whites and giving it to blacks. Their only disagreement with the ANC is over the DA's insistence there's a "nice" way to turn the country into Zimbabwe 2: Starvation Boogaloo.

Watching white South Africans talk as if they have a future in Africa is like watching the nervous, sweaty guy in a zombie movie hiding his arm and insisting he wasn't bitten.

The righteous will perish with the wicked if they don't get out while they can.

Blogger The Observer September 12, 2018 8:46 AM  

Then why didn't they pick their own cotton and mine their own gold?

Letting the Helots do the work while you sit and eat might be pleasant in the short term, but it always destroys you in the end.

Blogger Lovekraft September 12, 2018 8:46 AM  

VD: "who would want the white South African emigrants? They have proven to be wholly undesirable in any democracy."

Hm.

Blogger Lurker September 12, 2018 8:47 AM  

"Watching white South Africans talk as if they have a future in Africa is like watching the nervous, sweaty guy in a zombie movie hiding his arm and insisting he wasn't bitten."

LOL.

Blogger Nate September 12, 2018 8:47 AM  

'Then why didn't they pick their own cotton and mine their own gold? '

Can't speak for mining their own gold... but if you would bother to actually read the real history of the slave trade you would see that it wasn't southrons that brought the negros to America.

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2018 8:49 AM  

Obviously the blacks of Africa only need to approach the Chinese bosses and order them about using the word "racist" that should do the trick.

The Chinese are the biggest racists on the planet, and proud of it. Doesn't keep them from dealing with races they regard as virtually subhuman, though. Money talks.

Blogger Lovekraft September 12, 2018 8:52 AM  

Nate's answer at #1 above - having immigration with conditions makes sense. Isn't this the difference between Sorosian invasion and reasonable public policy?

Now, if one opposes all immigration because the current system is corrupt, what is our duty - to leave our brothers (and yes, the average afrikaaner is my brother) at the mercy of the communist mob. I am not so arrogant to group the entire population as under the cucked definition. I'd put the number of those who wanted to live a simple life around 80%. It's that 20% that push policy.

Blogger CarpeOro September 12, 2018 8:54 AM  

Just wondering for clarification's sake. I see mentions of the "white South Africans" and the Boers, but I am not sure that this breaks the situation down properly. Am I wrong in thinking that there was greater support for the end of apartheid amongst the Anglo and other non-Boer portions of the population to turn things over? Peter for good or ill falls in that category - not the Boer. In the different videos I see regarding the plight of "white" South Africa the speakers are almost uniformly Boers, not a English or other European to be seen. Lumping them together seems along the lines of lumping Southerners in with Yankees, Cornish with Scots, Venetians with Neapolitan. I didn't have the impression that the Boers at the end of Apartheid were the overwhelming majority of the white population.

Blogger VD September 12, 2018 8:55 AM  

Unless the Chinese aim is literal colonization

It is. The Chinese government has already approved plans to send 100 million colonists there.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 12, 2018 8:55 AM  

I wonder how much genetic research is being done in China to come up with a virus or chemical that would kill or sterilize people of pure African blood. Sort of like Roundup, that they could spray on the continent to get rid of unwanted "weeds" without damaging their own people that they plant there.

Blogger VD September 12, 2018 8:57 AM  

The solution to the South African problem is for the Netherlands to bring the Boers back to Holland.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 8:58 AM  

Nate wrote:Can't speak for mining their own gold... but if you would bother to actually read the real history of the slave trade you would see that it wasn't southrons that brought the negros to America.

Southrons did buy and breed Africans from the Yankee merchants. They, too should have picked their own cotton. It's interesting to read what Washington wrote about his problems finding labor for his plantations.

Blogger JACIII September 12, 2018 8:58 AM  

The South Africans who have made their way to the US over the years since the end of Apartheid are self selected toward the right. Hard right. They will give warning that we are started on the same path their country has tumbled down.

Those left in SA and caught by surprise that bad things are happening are undesirable and by definition they are of a leftist mindset regardless of work ethic or raw intelligence.

Blogger Lurker September 12, 2018 9:00 AM  

"The solution to the South African problem is for the Netherlands to bring the Boers back to Holland."

This. Somebody call Geert Wilders.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 9:02 AM  

VD wrote:It is. The Chinese government has already approved plans to send 100 million colonists there.

Africa for the Chinese. Africans were never going to be a threat to the other continents unless we imported them. Chinese have more potential.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 9:03 AM  

JACIII wrote:The South Africans who have made their way to the US over the years since the end of Apartheid are self selected toward the right. Hard right. They will give warning that we are started on the same path their country has tumbled down.

Can you give examples? That's not my impression.

Blogger Keyser Soze September 12, 2018 9:07 AM  

AS for the Chinese having a preference, blacks or boers, when it comes to colonizing, they don't care. The yellow wave will roll on. The door is ajar, and the yellow hordes now enter. In 30 years more than half of sub-Saharan Africa will be wholly owned by the 40M or 50M Chinese living there, whether the indigenous people realize it or not. And likely not.

Blogger Lurker September 12, 2018 9:08 AM  

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Blogger JACIII September 12, 2018 9:11 AM  

I personally worked side by side with two and interacted with one on another job. I had to let them get comfortable around me on the topic of race and even then they were looking over their shoulders as they speak.
Smart, hard working, driven men all three. All three quietly mourning their lost country while relieved to be in the US.
Look in the trades.

Blogger camperbot September 12, 2018 9:12 AM  

There's two main groups of whites in SA: Afrikaaners who descend more or less from the original immigrants in the 17th century and English speakers who hail from the 1820 settlers or moved here from Zimbabwe. Most English speakers are left-leaning and have no idea what's coming.

Then there's people like me who are English-speaking and hard right and currently planning for the time when they'll be the local warlord in their area. If I have to leave, so be it: I have twenty years of experience in a highly-skilled trade that would pull me six figures in a market like the US.

Blogger VD September 12, 2018 9:12 AM  

Stop trying to take shots at Peter Grant, Hammer. It's neither necessary nor polite.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 9:15 AM  

"Nate's answer at #1 above - having immigration with conditions makes sense. Isn't this the difference between Sorosian invasion and reasonable public policy?"

What the hell are you smoking? We don't fricking want any immigration, period. This is the difference between Sorosian open invasion and Sorosian covert brainwashing. Screw all of that and may it rot in hell.

Our country has too few provisions for barring people from becoming citizens, and no provisions at all for barring non-felon citizens from voting. Letting in people who will, in vast majority, have both the opportunity and motivation to push us even further into the sh**-pit is a nonstarter for any halfway sane person.

Blogger Ledford Ledford September 12, 2018 9:17 AM  

In assessing Chinese moves in Africa and elsewhere, I don't assume Chinese super-competence. They're just as capable of failure and foolishness as the rest of us. They look good right now compared to the West, but who wouldn't?

Will they resist adopting the worst of the ideas that now dominate the "international community?" Remember they went all-in for Marxism.

I don't pretend to know anything much about the Chinese, and won't guess their future. The one thing I would caution against is presuming they will act more rationally than their rivals.

Blogger John Best September 12, 2018 9:19 AM  

There are now more British people in South African than Afrikaner, the British need to get out and move to Australia and New Zealand, where the Chinese are again trying make inroads.

Blogger JACIII September 12, 2018 9:19 AM  

camperbot wrote:
Then there's people like me who are English-speaking and hard right and currently planning for the time when they'll be the local warlord in their area. If I have to leave, so be it: I have twenty years of experience in a highly-skilled trade that would pull me six figures in a market like the US.


Start getting your shit together NOW. Take care of any certifications that don't inherently transfer through professional associations/groups and bear in mind locality matters re: this, so decide on a US State NOW. If you can afford it travel here and go to trade conventions to start networking, because it may take string pulling to get you here and you never know who knows who with influence.

Blogger Lovekraft September 12, 2018 9:20 AM  

@27 VD: "The solution to the South African problem is for the Netherlands to bring the Boers back to Holland."

Agreed. In addition, send non-Hollanders back. Question: people seem to argue against mass deportation by selecting certain ethnicities to keep (keep hearing about how the UK needs the Poles as their manual laborers). This is a boomer argument - they wouldn't dare accept that their children work 'in the trenches' (even though this is exactly what has happened. Other than the connected and 'special class' of, say, 20% of college grads, the vast majority do slug it out in menial/dead-end jobs).

So should the alt-right demand repatriation of only blacks, muslims and 'asians', or all (with a restructuring of the economy to give the indigenous lower rungs better wages)?

Blogger #6277Hammer September 12, 2018 9:21 AM  

Sorry VD, will do.
Not my intention to single him out, I mentioned him as an example of a white South African of British decent.
Also my apologies to Peter Grant.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 9:23 AM  

"Now, if one opposes all immigration because the current system is corrupt, what is our duty - to leave our brothers (and yes, the average afrikaaner is my brother)"

He's as much your brother as your (((brother))) is. He may look somewhat like you, but he's not you or yours, and if he actually is, you personally have to go back.

"at the mercy of the communist mob."

That he allowed to happen. Bed. Lie in it.

"I am not so arrogant to group the entire population as under the cucked definition."

Yes, and not all black people are stupid and violent. The problem is that in general they're too stupid and violent for us to deal with as we would each other. Similarly the Boers are too generally cucked. They've got rectal incontinence and they need to stay the hell out of our bed.

" It's that 20% that push policy."

Because the other 80% are just weak cucks rather than traitorous cucks.

"They will give warning that we are started on the same path their country has tumbled down."

You hear that sound? Neither do I. Look at the bird, Bob. The bird is dead, and all is still silent.

"Smart, hard working, driven men all three. All three quietly mourning their lost country while relieved to be in the US.
Look in the trades."


So what you're saying is they all ran away. Mourning isn't nearly enough.

Blogger boxty woot September 12, 2018 9:24 AM  

Kim du Toit is an example.

Blogger camperbot September 12, 2018 9:26 AM  


@JACIII

I have traveled the US extensively and do have a reasonable network of contacts in the industry I'm in already. I would probably bring the product I'm working on to the US and develop the market here - huge gap for it.

Blogger Al Du Clur September 12, 2018 9:27 AM  

"the same white idiots who complained about white imperialism and Sun City are going to declare that the white man has an obligation to rescue the black man from the yellow man."

I don't see that. Unless the Jews start worrying about the Chinese, yellow against black just doesn't fit with the worldview of the (((fellow whites))) and Asians are getting enough clout that they can effectively scream racism while somehow blaming whites. (As Sailer would say, the Asians don't have enough intersectional Pokemon points to take on the blacks as the US open fiasco showed.)

The US and Europe will send massive amounts of food and money to prop up South Africa though. The jews likely won't let South Africa tank because that would hurt their narrative of the wonderful future of the US when whites are a minority.

I imagine the writer is correct that the talk of revolution is just that - talk - which makes South Africans just like the virtue signalling conservatives and right-wing gun owners in the US.

There are only three realistic prototypes for the future of the US. Within a generation the US will be some combination of South Africa, Venezuela and Brazil. The only thing that won't happen is the US breaking apart into two nations. That would have to happen now while whites still have the votes but polls show that only democrats, especially blacks, favor secession. Whites will want it only when it is too late.

Blogger Homesteader September 12, 2018 9:29 AM  

The ultimate low-time preference people vs. the ultimate high-time preference people.

Hmmn..

I wonder, will the Chinese set up game preserves for the fauna, and reservations for the natives? That rhino horn is popular with the Chinese, and the natives are popular with the Baizuo.

I see Junfle Safari theme parks coming to Africa soon..

Do the Africans know how to say "Plymouth Rock"?

Also, I wonder if the Chinese plan to invade Madagascar at some point, for the same strategic reasons they historically sought control of Taiwan.

Blogger Harambe September 12, 2018 9:30 AM  

VD wrote:The solution to the South African problem is for the Netherlands to bring the Boers back to Holland.

Or Prussia in my case.

Blogger JACIII September 12, 2018 9:31 AM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:


"Smart, hard working, driven men all three. All three quietly mourning their lost country while relieved to be in the US.

Look in the trades."


So what you're saying is they all ran away. Mourning isn't nearly enough.


Extract your head from your ass. They left because they have the ability to make a valid projection of the ruination of their society decades before others and were smart enough to leave before their valid projection became horrific reality. Much like VD did but with a shorter timescale to destruction.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 12, 2018 9:32 AM  

VD wrote:The solution to the South African problem is for the Netherlands to bring the Boers back to Holland.

If they convert to Islam they should have no trouble at all.

Although, honestly after four hundred years, they'd fit in about as well there, as I would in England.

There is no way in hell I'm giving up my guns or eating Jellied Eel.

Blogger Homesteader September 12, 2018 9:33 AM  

jungle

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 12, 2018 9:33 AM  

The problem is Boers still have an image problem thanks to Hollywood SJWs.

I mean look at the Boer character that Smeagol was playing in Black Panther. That wasn't so much a stereotype as it was an ethnic slur.

SJWs need Nazis or their entire way of life falls apart. Since the ones that exist are too laughable to be a threat they have to make up their own out of what is available. And Boers are what is available.

Blogger Harambe September 12, 2018 9:34 AM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:Our country has too few provisions for barring people from becoming citizens, and no provisions at all for barring non-felon citizens from voting. Letting in people who will, in vast majority, have both the opportunity and motivation to push us even further into the sh**-pit is a nonstarter for any halfway sane person.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Do you even know what your country's immigration laws are like, not to mention what getting permanent residence requires?

Blogger JACIII September 12, 2018 9:34 AM  

camperbot wrote:

@JACIII

I have traveled the US extensively and do have a reasonable network of contacts in the industry I'm in already. I would probably bring the product I'm working on to the US and develop the market here - huge gap for it.


It you decide to live in the South, learn some damned manners. You SA have a natural stand-offishness that will be mistaken for rudeness and arrogance. You can live in Kansas and still be an asshole.

Blogger Steve September 12, 2018 9:35 AM  

The jews likely won't let South Africa tank because that would hurt their narrative of the wonderful future of the US when whites are a minority.

Weird how some people ascribe God-like magical powers to The Jews. In reality, I expect celebrities to front tearful infomercials for poor South Africa, with pictures of doe-eyed peckish negroes and a mournful Eva Cassidy soundtrack, within 15 years.

Maybe even a star-studded charidee single. Feeeed the woooooorrlld... let them know we're gullible....

Blogger Silly but True September 12, 2018 9:35 AM  

It’ll happen clearly enough when the mob comes for his farm, rapes his wife and daughter and cuts their arms off in front of him all the while he’s also being raped.

If they all don’t get shot in the head, he’ll have ample time to hold a family meeting and ponder if leaving in early September 2018 was a good idea or not.

Blogger Blume September 12, 2018 9:38 AM  

But they still bought them nate. That's the whole problem. If we had just told the slave traders to go fuck themselves we never would have had a slave problem or black lives matter

Blogger Lurker September 12, 2018 9:42 AM  

"You have no idea what you're talking about. Do you even know what your country's immigration laws are like, not to mention what getting permanent residence requires?"

Ok this is an easy one. Change your last name to Rodriguez and head to a DMV in San Francisco or change your last name to Muhammad and head to a DMV in Minnesota or Michigan.

Blogger Homesteader September 12, 2018 9:45 AM  

...And will Orania become the Chinese version of Dutch Wonderland- "See the surviving White Africans in their native garb"..


Blogger pnq8787 September 12, 2018 9:45 AM  

I bet right about now the Chinese are wishing they hadn't aborted their girls so disproportionately. Now their men will have to colonize Africa without any of their own women. The resulting mixed-race people will generate sympathy among the Chinese population. This will sow the seeds of race cuckery in China. Speaking of which check out the recent U.S. Open tennis champ. The media is paining her as "Japanese". She mixed Japanese/black. The globalists have it in for the Japanese as well.

Blogger Harambe September 12, 2018 9:47 AM  

Lurker wrote:"You have no idea what you're talking about. Do you even know what your country's immigration laws are like, not to mention what getting permanent residence requires?"

Ok this is an easy one. Change your last name to Rodriguez and head to a DMV in San Francisco or change your last name to Muhammad and head to a DMV in Minnesota or Michigan.


Fun fact: I do have a Spanish sounding name and my birth certificate has a Portuguese surname on it. I could probably pull off something like this if I learned Spanish.

Blogger Hammerli280 September 12, 2018 9:48 AM  

Interesting. I would not be surprised to see the Chinese make the SA Whites an offer of protection to secure their services.

The other issue is the Chinese having control of the Cape of Good Hope. If you look at the British Empire, many of the holdings prior to the First World were about control of the trade routes, and in particular the choke points for shipping. Especially if the Chinese can get the Suez Canal blocked one way or another.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 12, 2018 9:49 AM  

Vox, I'd really like to hear/read more about this "First, Second, Third Americans" categorization you mentioned in another post. I can't find much discussion about this online. But I think referring to things in this way helps clear things up.

There is a push to replace Second Americans with Third Americans.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey September 12, 2018 9:50 AM  

At this point, the Boers wouldn't just be fighting the ANC, they'd be fighting the Chinese Red Army defending its very material investments in China's new colony-to-be.

And they'll be fighting Ramaphosa's backers, the Oppenheimers, and their friends in the international media, financial system, etc. If the Guptas are "super-rich," what are the Oppenheimers?

Blogger Shimshon September 12, 2018 9:51 AM  

@58 "But they still bought them nate. That's the whole problem. If we had just told the slave traders to go fuck themselves we never would have had a slave problem or black lives matter"

Slave traders were like Facebook/Twitter/Google of the time. They're just private enterprises filling a need...and if they want to engage in unseemly behavior...well, it's all legal, and who are we to interfere...

Blogger dienw September 12, 2018 9:54 AM  

The prophecies regarding not only a 200+million invasion of the ME but also the invasion of the US by China and Russia are starting to materialize:
The real Red Dawn

And, btw,the ground for the anti-Christ is being laid.

If you won't listen, you're blood is on your own heads.

Blogger dienw September 12, 2018 9:56 AM  

link did not take.
And, btw,the ground for the anti-Christ is being laid.

Blogger Matthew McDaniel September 12, 2018 10:06 AM  

“It’s all so tiresome...”

Blogger Cloom Glue September 12, 2018 10:20 AM  

The old dutch speaking colony shithole Suriname, South America, has a lot of citizens wanting out. Suriname should do a migration trade of their East Indians and Blacks for South Africa's whites. I understand a large East Indian population is already in South Africa and South African whites would have more defensible numbers in Suriname.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 10:22 AM  

"Extract your head from your ass. They left because they have the ability to make a valid projection of the ruination of their society decades before others and were smart enough to leave before their valid projection became horrific reality. Much like VD did but with a shorter timescale to destruction."

I'm literally saying that they left rather than fighting. We don't want people here who will do that, even though I agree it's the better personal and close-family choice, it's absolutely the wrong choice on a national scale.

"Do you even know what your country's immigration laws are like, not to mention what getting permanent residence requires?"

I'm talking about reality. I don't think people should be able to vote within eight generations of coming here. People can currently vote within a tiny fraction of the first generation of being here. I get you don't like being told that your problems are your own... but they're literally your own.

It's a flipping sieve with most of the middle ripped out, and we need it to be a steel vault with more locks than you can count and a pump that is pumping unwanted materials out at an extraordinarily high rate of speed.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 10:36 AM  

Shimshon wrote:Slave traders were like Facebook/Twitter/Google of the time. They're just private enterprises filling a need...and if they want to engage in unseemly behavior...well, it's all legal, and who are we to interfere...

Shimshon, our complaint is not that the Yankees and your ancestors met the demand, it is that our Southron ancestors provided the demand for them to meet. They purchased imported agricultural machinery which is now obsolete and which has polluted our nation.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 10:41 AM  

"The media is paining her as "Japanese". She mixed Japanese/black. The globalists have it in for the Japanese as well."

Of course they do, they make their living by cracking open eggs and drinking the blood that proceeds. The Japanese are comparatively insular -- in several different ways. What an egg.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 10:46 AM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:I'm literally saying that they left rather than fighting. We don't want people here who will do that, even though I agree it's the better personal and close-family choice, it's absolutely the wrong choice on a national scale.

The idea of running away is attractive, but if I go any place that will have me, it will soon enough become what I left. Taking immigrants is a sign of impending doom. We must stop taking immigrants.

Azure Amaranthine wrote:I don't think people should be able to vote within eight generations of coming here. People can currently vote within a tiny fraction of the first generation of being here

Eight generations? Not enough. Blacks have been here for 300+ years - probably 15 generations. Jews have been here as long. Neither group is assimilated. We know that they aren't, because both retain their group identities.

If you can identify a group, it's not assimilated.

Blogger Resident Moron™ September 12, 2018 10:59 AM  

The Chinese would be smart to leave a smaller white african state centered around Cape Town. They could claim it as a protectorate to prevent genocide, use it to menace the blacks as the US uses Israel in the Middle East, and profit from the superior economy it would enjoy.

Will they? Who knows?

They haven’t managed to kill the Hong Kong golden goose yet but it sure is less golden than it was ....

Blogger kurt9 September 12, 2018 11:07 AM  

I noticed from the first linked article that the "top SA energy expert" has drunk the kool-aid of renewable power (wind and solar) when he stated that the coal plants did not make sense. Wind and solar may occasionally generate surpluses of energy. But they are notoriously unreliable. One estimate is that you need a generating capacity of 10 times the expected demand in order for wind and solar to be considered reliable for that demand.

Blogger Resident Moron™ September 12, 2018 11:11 AM  

The german government is claiming that renewable energy will account for ~60% of german needs by 2030 or so.

It’s complete bollocks of course but these are the same idiots who think increasing our coal and oil usage is greener than nuclear power because scary gamma rays.

Who says god doesn’t have a sense of humor ...

Blogger kurt9 September 12, 2018 11:11 AM  

Guys, reread the first story in "There Will Be War Vol. X", which has been conveniently published by Castalia Publishing for our reading pleasure. This story features a possible direction the Chinese might take with regards to Africa.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 12, 2018 11:13 AM  

Isn't this the difference between Sorosian invasion and reasonable public policy?

Reasonable public policy can recognize that a Boer immigrant would be better than a Somali immigrant, while saying we currently need neither. Trying to improve the immigration picture by bringing in more "good" ones is like conservative politicians saying they want to start fixing immigration by raising the H-1B limit. America already has so many immigrants that the pre-1965 groups that were thought to be assimilated are starting to show signs of un-assimilating. Reasonable public policy cries out for a strict moratorium on entry for at least twenty years. Much, much longer if millions don't go back now.

Blogger VD September 12, 2018 11:13 AM  

Much like VD did but with a shorter timescale to destruction."

What part of "I am not the subject, so leave me out of the discussion" is hard to understand.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 11:14 AM  

"Eight generations? Not enough."

You're right. I usually phrase that as "eight generations with them interbreeding with the locals every single generation. No back-breeding."

Blogger Cloudbuster September 12, 2018 11:20 AM  

Nope. Dude Tout was an anti-apartheid activist in his youth and refuses to disavow that activity. You can find it right in his own blog. He was perfectly willing to throw White SA under the bus, then abandon it so he didn't have to suffer the consequences of his own actions. I have nothing but contempt for the man.

Blogger Matamoros September 12, 2018 11:20 AM  

There were several articles a year or two ago talking about the Chinese in Africa taking African wives, and then taking them back to China -- due to the aborting of Chinese females over the one child policy.

So the Chinese are also setting up the seeds for their downfall.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 11:23 AM  

"So the Chinese are also setting up the seeds for their downfall."

That's what happens when the elites tell the common folk that they have to die out for the good of the elites, which is basically what the one child policy is.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 11:47 AM  

Resident Moron™ wrote:The Chinese would be smart to leave a smaller white african state centered around Cape Town.

The Whites are peers, and could be a threat. The Blacks are not peers, and will be a threat. It will boil down to whether the Chinese want to deal with equals who could actually displace them, but probably won't, or a troupe of baboons which must be kept in line with constant violence.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 11:50 AM  

kurt9 wrote:One estimate is that you need a generating capacity of 10 times the expected demand in order for wind and solar to be considered reliable for that demand.

They can never be considered reliable. If they are small enough to be negligible, they can be neglected.

You must have 100% spinning reserve for any wind or solar that is not negligible.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 11:51 AM  

Cloudbuster wrote:Nope. Dude Tout was an anti-apartheid activist in his youth and refuses to disavow that activity. You can find it right in his own blog. He was perfectly willing to throw White SA under the bus, then abandon it so he didn't have to suffer the consequences of his own actions.

That is what I remember from reading his blog.

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2018 12:05 PM  

When does Zimbabwe get nukes?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2018 12:11 PM  

@80; Vox, you have raised children in a foreign land. I'm not looking for info about you or your family, but I'd be interested in hearing practical info on how to make that work.

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2018 12:15 PM  

In Dark Star Safari, Paul Theroux observed that the Chinese in Angola had a simple formula. They bribed the elites, didn't allow the natives anywhere near their projects, and brought in Chinese labor, often prisoners, which lived on ships to keep them isolated...Now they are expanding to the military.

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2018 12:24 PM  

"You must have 100% spinning reserve for any wind or solar that is not negligible."

Yep. You also need to have a way of dumping excess wind generation to prevent destabilizing the lines.

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2018 12:31 PM  

@66, 72 The cheap labor lobby and its corporate accomplices (Yankee shipowners and NY bankers) have been wreaking havoc in America since 1619...

Blogger pnq8787 September 12, 2018 12:33 PM  

It is sad that some of you still have the conceit to think that there is some unique place for whites in a Chinese colony. There is no place. The Chinese don't respect you. They don't need you. They don't want you. You don't have some special knowlege or skill or character trait that the Chinese don't have aplenty. If you have anything they do want, they will take it from you (e.g. land). In the absolute best case you will be treated with complete indifference.


As a side note, I'm not sure that a white culture which has been infiltrated by Jewish subversive culture is worth preserving.

Blogger Long Live The West September 12, 2018 12:34 PM  

Are South Africans Americans?

Will bringing them here turn them into Americans?

Has the idea of 'we can restrict it to bring in only their best and brightest' ever worked right?

Do most people keep suggesting the same stupid ideas that got us into this mess in the first place?

Think about it.

Blogger wreckage September 12, 2018 12:51 PM  

The only solution for the white South Africans is, in effect, diaspora; or to move en-masse to Holland. Either spread out such that they do not disrupt their new host nations, or head for a place where their disruption is sorely needed.

Blogger pyrrhus September 12, 2018 12:58 PM  

"As a side note, I'm not sure that a white culture which has been infiltrated by Jewish subversive culture is worth preserving."

And despite the wishes of Judeo-Christ, it won't be...

Blogger Doktor Jeep September 12, 2018 1:14 PM  

The Chinese are going to embark on a campaign of taking, apartheid, and population control that'll make forcing Rosa Parks to sit in the back of a bus look like a friendly gesture.

Blogger FrankNorman September 12, 2018 1:52 PM  

South Africa is not all one place. The Bantu tribes live in the north-east part of it, mostly. The western part is mostly English or Afrikaans speakers -White or Coloured.

To the people who declare us unfit to exist because the previous generation got forced by the West into negotiating with the ANC - yes the old South Africa had nukes, but what do you think they could have done with them? Come down off your high horse and be practical here - well, I'm more used to encountering such thoughts from the Left. They also want to condemn entire peoples for things done in the past.
And you sound just like them.

Too late to keep the South Africans out of the USA - about half of the White population as of 1990 have already gone abroad. The people who stayed either couldn't afford to just up and leave, or had family they were unwilling to abandon. For some people, "I grew up here" means something.

Not everyone is a rootless cosmopolitan with piles of money who can hop countries like changing suits.

Blogger Geir Balderson September 12, 2018 1:53 PM  

So, 100 years from now, Africa will be fully settled by the Chinese. The natives will be settled on their game preserves, I mean reservations, and all will be right with the World?

Blogger yoghi.llama September 12, 2018 1:54 PM  

On rational grounds, nobody should let the White South Africans in. They were feckless and gullible.

And still, if it were up to me, I know I'd let every last one of them in, just because they are mine. (An immigrant will always betray you for one of his own in the end.)

Blogger Zander Stander September 12, 2018 1:57 PM  

As an Afrikaner, I have no desire to emigrate to the Netherlands, nor do I have anything in common with them as they are now. We remember them as in the first lines fighting the wayciss apart-hate regime. Afrikaners who do transplant to Holland are of the pseudointellectual academic bent and liberal. The Afrikaner genome is made up of slightly over 50% Dutch, with the remainder relatively equally distributed between French and German.with these we have less to nothing in common.

Blogger Johnny September 12, 2018 2:03 PM  

>>On rational grounds, nobody should let the White South Africans in. They were feckless and gullible.

And aren't we brave up here where we greatly outnumber the blacks. Hey, I know I am when I see one or two of them in a store full of whites.

Blogger Zander Stander September 12, 2018 2:05 PM  

Those who are left are definitely not leftist. We are an occupied nation and unfortunately also pacified. All institutions are converged. The Afrikaans media is like a franchise of the MSM, sporting its own brand of Trump Derangement Syndrome. We stay because this is the land we once tamed. Can you imagine being outnumbered one to ten?

Blogger Dangeresque September 12, 2018 2:15 PM  

"who would want the white South African emigrants? They have proven to be wholly undesirable in any democracy."

Someplace with a lot of untapped farmland and not a lot of democracy: Russia

Blogger szopen September 12, 2018 2:22 PM  

Zander Stander wrote: The Afrikaner genome is made up of slightly over 50% Dutch, with the remainder relatively equally distributed between French and German.with these we have less to nothing in common.

Surprisingly, there were also some POles (or at least descendants of Poles) - about 1% of Boer founding families (See M. Kowalski "The influence of early Polish immigration on Boer families")

Blogger James Dixon September 12, 2018 2:27 PM  

> But the white man has laid down his burden and he no longer has the ability to shoulder it.

That last part is a very important one. We (the US) simply no longer has the ability to be the world's policeman.

Blogger Zander Stander September 12, 2018 2:28 PM  

Things are way more complicated an nuanced than most commenters here seem to realize. What to make of the following fun fact: a historically Afrikaans corporation owns one third of Tencent, one of the five or so biggest companies by market cap. The Amazon, Google league.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 12, 2018 2:31 PM  

@28

"Southrons did buy and breed Africans from the Yankee merchants."

You people better buy every one of these slaves, or else we will give them firearms and let them loose among you.

Blogger Dirk Manly September 12, 2018 2:32 PM  

@31

"Africa for the Chinese. Africans were never going to be a threat to the other continents unless we imported them. Chinese have more potential."

The last thing we need on this planet is the Chinese having a long-term (as in, "until the end of time") interest in ships, and therefore navies.

Blogger Zander Stander September 12, 2018 2:37 PM  

Everybody thinks we had to fight while still having an army and six Hiroshima-sized nukes. How would that have worked out? Nukes against guerrillas or massed crowds? The world, with the USA in the lead, would have obliterated us Yugoslavia style. Invasion & occupation is only if you have oil. Once our means of defense was bombed to the stone age, the hordes would have finished us off Rwanda-style. Bad things happen to good people.

Blogger Zander Stander September 12, 2018 2:46 PM  

Now that is the kind of comment I like. We need some catalyst to get the internal migration going, likely with population exchange as India and Bangladesh experienced. History will not be forced.

Blogger Zander Stander September 12, 2018 2:52 PM  

You have it. Sharp observation. See Naspers and Tencent. That will be the nature of the relationship. In my previous post I considered using the word peer. Shynchronishity.

Blogger Zander Stander September 12, 2018 2:57 PM  

I know four South Africans that emigrated to the US and voted for TGE. I don't know one that voted for Obama or Clinton. Answer enough?

Blogger Zander Stander September 12, 2018 3:11 PM  

Yes, even some (((Baltic))) blood, but there are always trace elements present. It was a fad for the woke white locals to get 23andme type info on their possible native ancestry. One looked positively dejected when he was declared of 100% European descent. Kind of the inverse an SS candidate would have reacted to the same news. But really identical.

Blogger Rabid Ratel September 12, 2018 3:38 PM  

JACIII wrote:You SA have a natural stand-offishness that will be mistaken for rudeness and arrogance.

Some of us just don't like people. The arrogance also comes naturally. It is better for us to stay in South Africa.

Blogger Vaughan Williams September 12, 2018 3:48 PM  

The Seiner van Rensburg said for the Boers to stay in South Africa, because as bad as things get, they will be even worse everywhere else. I note that the English book about him is now available on Amazon after many years of being almost impossible to get. The book was written almost 20 years ago, so it doesn't cover Rensburg's prophecies about the election of Obama, followed by Trump. But still, includes many details that would be important in planning for the future. The thing about the Gupta's taking over South Africa; Rensburg foretold that too, but it only hit the mainstream news a year or two ago.

Blogger Lovekraft September 12, 2018 4:00 PM  

Azure Apathy sounds like that supervisor you had who's coffee you secretly slip you piss into.

Blogger DonReynolds September 12, 2018 4:05 PM  

"Emigration is almost certainly the wise option, but I also know it's not feasible for all four or five million whites."

Rubbish. There WERE 4 million whites when black rule came to South Afrika. Half have already left the country and it is doubtful that 2 million whites are anywhere in the country. Most of the whites are Boers and that is understandable....the English South Afrikans have many places in the English-speaking world they can go. But if you only speak Afrikaaner (a unique Dutch dialect), there are NO OTHER countries where they can go without learning a new language. The younger Boers especially may be bilingual with English, but keep in mind there were several universities that were Afrikaaner ONLY and very few that were bilingual with English.

Can less than 2 million whites (who do not actually like each other) contend with 40 million blacks? Sure...to the bitter end, if they prefer. But they will never prevail in that country ever again and they cannot hold or defend any part of it. They already know it.

Blogger Lovekraft September 12, 2018 4:29 PM  

https://ammo.com/articles/south-africa-land-reform-farm-murders-untold-story

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 4:47 PM  

"Don't worry maniac, I love me all the Oxford commas, and I'll provide you with plenty as well."

You can call us cowardly for stating the obvious, meanwhile I'll call you an idiot for being unable to perceive it. Do you see the irony yet?

"We (the US) simply no longer has the ability to be the world's policeman."

Let alone the world's overflow tank for "unfortunates" who either created or allowed their own problems.

"How would that have worked out? Nukes against guerrillas or massed crowds? The world, with the USA in the lead, would have obliterated us Yugoslavia style."

That's where you use one to show that you have the will, and the other five sit in undisclosed locations to hold hostages in the event the RoW can't keep their hands politely in their pockets.

"Azure Apathy sounds like that supervisor you had"

Tell me when you have an argument instead of a passive aggressive emotional response.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 4:50 PM  

My bad, the "You can call us cowardly" response was to Johnny. Copypasted the wrong thing.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 4:51 PM  

"And aren't we brave" No Johnny, we just aren't stupid.

Blogger Daniel September 12, 2018 5:17 PM  

@13
>>Hand out travel visas like candy to right-wing Boers that want out. Now or never deal. Send them all on vacation to Vermont and New Hampshire to make 4 more GOP Senators.<<

And you call that progress?

Blogger Daniel September 12, 2018 5:24 PM  

>>It's probably too late to fight now.

It's late, but not too late. White South Africans, though, have to be realistic about what can be achieved. From what I understand the whitest part of the country is the South West, with Cape Town as the Urban Core. Build a nation off of this demographic/geographic fact. Furthermore, they can build another white province of the white nation, but not contiguous to it, in the veldt above Johannesburg. White South Africans with the assistance os select Colored allies can build a nation what will comprise 20-25% of the land mass. And they can defend this nation, from blacks, Chines, British, American, anybody. It takes will and a sense of purpose. Desperation may just bear these factors out.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 5:25 PM  

Look at it like this. Trying to save a sinking ship that has my family and hypothetically my nation on board. Do I:

A: Bring onboard random people who are not part of either my family or my nation and have been separate from both for hundreds of years or longer. People who only want onboard the ship because they either sunk or allowed their ship to be sunk, depending on whose story I believe. All this just because they have approximately the same skin tone as I do.

B: Keep them all out.

Keep in mind that for the vast majority I can't tell the people that actually tried to save their ship apart from the ones who didn't or were poking holes, and neither can the people standing by the ladders onto this ship, and there were undeniably more people standing by or poking holes than there were helping.

It's really not a difficult decision. They're just trying to save themselves and their families, sure. But If they can and should try to save theirs, they can't honestly complain about me trying to save mine.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 5:35 PM  

"Hand out travel visas like candy to right-wing Boers that want out."

And how many do you think will get visas before they start calling their liberal mother/father/sister/brother/cousin/acquaintance/etc. and telling them "they only give visas if you answer like x"?

I'm betting roundabout ten. Even if they didn't we wouldn't want them, because they don't even help their own people, why on Earth would they help us? Yes, it's a catch-22. So is being enslaved, which is what happens to cravens even today. If someone isn't craven they won't be a slave, because they'll be either free or dead.

Blogger Lovekraft September 12, 2018 5:38 PM  

@ Azure:

you just have to be careful who you challenge here. Some see VP as a refuge and won't take challenges lightly. Best you and I call a truce.

Blogger #6277Hammer September 12, 2018 5:40 PM  

Azure Amaranthine - "...they can't honestly complain about me trying to save mine."

And that's why I haven't called to be let into the Us. I have had offers though.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 12, 2018 5:47 PM  

"Best you and I call a truce."

Deal.

Blogger tz September 12, 2018 6:03 PM  

Yellow Peril.
Their typical error is doing a Pearl Harbor to awake a sleeping giant. In this case they won't be sent to internment camps but necklaced (gasoline filled tires over the head, ignighted) or hacked to death with Machetes.

Given the Weather v.s. demographics, "Nuclear" or volcanic winter might prove useful.

Blogger tz September 12, 2018 6:05 PM  

To add, Note how a Wyoming GOP office was firebombed and a candidate was knifed, as well as other violent actions (while the left fears if it ever might happen).

The Civnats and Cucks should be tied to stakes in "diverse", vibrant areas for an attitude adjustment if not social cum actual Darwin awards.

Blogger Lovekraft September 12, 2018 7:52 PM  

@ Azure: cool. We have our hands full just taking on the Sorosians. No need for us to squabble.

Blogger VD September 12, 2018 8:02 PM  

Everybody thinks we had to fight while still having an army and six Hiroshima-sized nukes. How would that have worked out? Nukes against guerrillas or massed crowds? The world, with the USA in the lead, would have obliterated us Yugoslavia style.

Much better than it is going to work out for you, in my opinion. I mean, you're STILL trying to justify not having resisted. Not a good sign for the future.

Blogger VD September 12, 2018 8:08 PM  

To the people who declare us unfit to exist because the previous generation got forced by the West into negotiating with the ANC - yes the old South Africa had nukes, but what do you think they could have done with them?

Told the rest of the world to go to Hell and used their excellent army to impose whatever long-term solution best suited them.

Come down off your high horse and be practical here - well, I'm more used to encountering such thoughts from the Left. They also want to condemn entire peoples for things done in the past.

We are being practical. Allowing in two million stupid white cucks who gave away their country for fear of being called racist, then letting them vote, is a very, very impractical idea.

And you sound just like them.

We really don't. There is no need to have any sympathy for a near-defunct nation of cowards who lost a war without ever even bothering to fight it.

Blogger VD September 12, 2018 8:09 PM  

Also, allowing people to experience the consequences of their actions is not "condemning them". We don't have to condemn them. We don't have to do anything at all, except continue to ignore them.

Blogger SirHamster September 12, 2018 8:52 PM  

Dangeresque wrote:who would want the white South African emigrants? They have proven to be wholly undesirable in any democracy.

If you're willing to drop the democracy aspect, apparently China has room for a few. Per him, there's pro-white racism in China at the moment, which is preferable to the anti-white racism in Africa.

Not a solution for SA as a nation or at scale, though. Burning the bridges/ships might be their only true hope.

Blogger Erika Juhasz Nagy September 12, 2018 8:56 PM  

I read a short story a while back - The Will be War ?? - where Chinese scientists in Africa developed a virus which only killed black Africans. Hmmmmmmm. Was it really fiction?

Blogger Unknown September 12, 2018 9:10 PM  

In Japan they protect their labour and the wages are in fact better from what I've seen. It's hard to cone to Japan without a degree. Which ironically means bringing in a bunch of leftist freaks shoving Africans into things, particularly the animated stuff for learning say English.

Blogger Avalanche September 12, 2018 10:05 PM  

@17 "The righteous will perish with the wicked if they don't get out while they can."

The righteous will perish with the wicked since they did not get out while they could have.

FIFY

Blogger Harambe September 13, 2018 3:25 AM  

Let's turn this around: what have any of you done to prevent the same fate befalling you in your own country? Cause y'all still got the nukes and the numbers. I have actually had to pick up a gun and shoot a terrorist MK "soldier". How many of you can say the same? Cause if you can't you can fuck right off and go help the rest of the women prepare lunch.

Blogger VD September 13, 2018 4:11 AM  

Let's turn this around: what have any of you done to prevent the same fate befalling you in your own country?

No, let's not. Perhaps if you guys weren't prone to whining, crying, refusing to accept the consequences of your own actions, and trying to turn things around on others, you wouldn't have lost control of your country.

Americans fight all around the world because they genuinely believe in freedom. They'll fight for their own once they truly understand that its existence is threatened. South Africans didn't.

The South Africans couldn't even produce a single John Brown, a Timothy McVeigh, or an Anders Breivik.

Blogger FrankNorman September 13, 2018 4:58 AM  

The South Africans couldn't even produce a single John Brown, a Timothy McVeigh, or an Anders Breivik.

They had quite a few such people, actually.

Blogger FrankNorman September 13, 2018 5:05 AM  

We are being practical. Allowing in two million stupid white cucks who gave away their country for fear of being called racist, then letting them vote, is a very, very impractical idea.

That ship has already sailed. It's made several trips in fact. There are now millions of white South Africans all over the world - America, the UK, Australia, maybe even some in Italy with you.
The "ooh let's not be racist" types were generally the first to pack their bags and leave. Liberals of any nation have much less attachment to any place or country.

It's easy to talk about what people who aren't you should have done, if only they understood things as clearly 30 years ago as you do now.

Blogger AJ September 13, 2018 5:27 AM  

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Blogger AJ September 13, 2018 5:29 AM  

VD wrote:
The South Africans couldn't even produce a single John Brown, a Timothy McVeigh, or an Anders Breivik.


Boeremag

Blogger Harambe September 13, 2018 5:42 AM  

VD wrote:Let's turn this around: what have any of you done to prevent the same fate befalling you in your own country?


Americans fight all around the world because they genuinely believe in freedom. They'll fight for their own once they truly understand that its existence is threatened. South Africans didn't.

The South Africans couldn't even produce a single John Brown, a Timothy McVeigh, or an Anders Breivik.


1. We fought for freedom in Africa just like the Americans are doing in the desert. And we still do that in the form of our numerous PMC's staffed mostly by white former-SADF soldiers. Executive Outcomes being the biggest and most well-known (well until the CIA decided to trash it).

2. You have no idea what you're talking about if you think we don't have and didn't have our own "revolutionaries". Which is unusual for you.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 13, 2018 5:44 AM  

"It's easy to talk about what people who aren't you should have done, if only they understood things as clearly 30 years ago as you do now."

And it's easy to say that other people should let you do the same things to them that you let happened to you, isn't it?

Should we sin more so that grace might increase? No. You can stay out.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 13, 2018 5:48 AM  

You don't seem to understand that all of your arguments aren't even first-order irrelevant, Harambe.

Our country, we choose who to let in, and considering a lot of our main problems are already the direct results from letting aliens in, which your people undoubtedly qualify as?

Yeah, no. Just because the boat is currently sinking doesn't mean I should start poking more holes for teh lulz.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener September 13, 2018 6:15 AM  

For you remaining South African whites, here's my advice for what little it may be worth - if you are ever planning on fighting back, the time is now. Your enemy is announcing his intent to kill you, even if he hasn't yet used those exact words. You need to stretch the limits of your minds to find the brutality, aggression, and deceit within you that's necessary to win. Most forms of fighting don't involve picking up a rifle but require no less sacrifice. Pray, fight, love, and die in Christ's name.

As for leaving - if you're not going to fight, get out as soon as you can. I'm not on the ground there so I cannot and will not criticize anyone who thinks that getting out is the best option. The survival of you and your families is one of the highest necessities and anyone who says otherwise probably has not given this issue its due consideration. Those who are piling on that South Africans are cucked conveniently forget that cucked Americans and cucked Britons precipitated this disaster. They are the ones who imposed sanctions against and effectively broke the white rule of South Africa.

Last, is there anything we can do to help instead of just jawboning?

Blogger FrankNorman September 13, 2018 6:18 AM  

This looks like an argument where the two sides are talking past each other.
No, I as a South African am not petitioning to for entry to the United States. But we could certainly benefit from their support in making our own country great again.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener September 13, 2018 6:25 AM  

@147 And it's easy to say that other people should let you do the same things to them that you let happened to you, isn't it?

Bullshit. Who the fuck said that?

Blogger VD September 13, 2018 6:45 AM  

It's easy to talk about what people who aren't you should have done, if only they understood things as clearly 30 years ago as you do now.

Ditch the passive-aggressive whining. I understood these things clearly 30 years ago. I wrote extensively about these things for over a decade. No one listened, no one did anything, and I was repeatedly attacked, called racist, and called insane for my trouble.

So, don't be surprised that I don't shed any tears for collections of short-sighted and self-absorbed people doomed to experience the obvious consequences of their actions.

They had quite a few such people, actually.

No, they didn't. They had a lot of talkers who didn't manage to do much more than get themselves arrested and killed.

Blogger VD September 13, 2018 6:48 AM  

This looks like an argument where the two sides are talking past each other.

It is, to a certain extent. But part of the irritation on the US side is that we have a number of white South Africans in the USA who a) still insist they were right to oppose apartheid despite the disastrous outcome and b) have clearly learned nothing from the loss of their country despite the way they fled from it.

This really should not be a surprise. Californians do precisely the same thing.

Blogger Rabid Ratel September 13, 2018 7:04 AM  

VD wrote:But part of the irritation on the US side is that we have a number of white South Africans in the USA who a) still insist they were right to oppose apartheid despite the disastrous outcome and b) have clearly learned nothing from the loss of their country despite the way they fled from it.

I am glad you clarified that. Those white South Africans have a disproportionate number of "Yes" and ((("Yes"))) voters. They need to come back.

Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:Last, is there anything we can do to help instead of just jawboning?

Pray for us.

Blogger Harambe September 13, 2018 7:05 AM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:You don't seem to understand that all of your arguments aren't even first-order irrelevant, Harambe.

Our country, we choose who to let in, and considering a lot of our main problems are already the direct results from letting aliens in, which your people undoubtedly qualify as?

Yeah, no. Just because the boat is currently sinking doesn't mean I should start poking more holes for teh lulz.


Your posturing does not impress me. Try harder.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener September 13, 2018 7:14 AM  

@154 Pray for us.

Done of course, my friend.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 13, 2018 7:36 AM  

"Bullshit. Who the fuck said that?"

The ones arguing for SA admission to the US. You can go back and read if you want, but get off my case until you do.

"But we could certainly benefit from their support in making our own country great again."

And I have absolutely no issue with that.

"Your posturing does not impress me."

Come and take it.

"Pray for us."

Certainly.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 13, 2018 7:39 AM  

"Californians do precisely the same thing."

Yep.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 13, 2018 7:57 AM  

"Like one who takes a dog by the ears Is he who passes by and meddles with strife not belonging to him."

Blogger Paul M September 13, 2018 10:38 AM  

South African Boers are not Dutch and don't think of themselves as Dutch. No more than - say - Canadians or Australians think of themselves as being English. A white South African was born in Africa, raised in Africa, got married in church there, believed that he would spend his life there and die there, with children to carry on his legacy. A white South African regards himself as - well - African.

Now, sure - this isn't feasible going forward. But "they should all just go back to Holland where they came from" is missing some of the realities. It doesn't work like that. They are not citizens of The Netherlands. It isn't home. And it has its own problems.

Blogger VinceLRN September 13, 2018 12:48 PM  

I tend to believe that importing Afrikaners would be, to a certain extent, beneficial.

1: We would increase the White Population by a small margin.

2: I would be willing to bet that the majority would vote republican, given the situation in South Africa, I am sure they are well aware of the negative impact of mass-immigration.

Blogger VinceLRN September 13, 2018 1:21 PM  

Especially if Trump and the republicans rescued them. They'd most certainly support Trump and hopefully similar politicians in the future.

Blogger Zander Stander September 13, 2018 2:40 PM  

We speak Afrikaans, not Afrikaner. Most, if not all Afrikaners, fully understand English and most can speak it, although with an accent. No parochial hicks here. We had English and Afrikaans as official languages for about 70 years.

Blogger Zander Stander September 13, 2018 2:51 PM  

Americans fight...because they genuinely believe in freedom. I call bullshit, don't see no gyrenes landing on our beaches. Those champions you mention: cometh the hour, cometh the man.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener September 13, 2018 3:01 PM  

"The ones arguing for SA admission to the US. You can go back and read if you want, but get off my case until you do."

Another idiotic purity spiral. Afrikaners are whiter than many Americans who claim to be white.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 13, 2018 3:04 PM  

"Another idiotic purity spiral. Afrikaners are whiter than many Americans who claim to be white."

You don't know what you're arguing. You are grabbing a dog by the ears. Go back and read.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 13, 2018 5:36 PM  

FrankNorman wrote:No, I as a South African am not petitioning to for entry to the United States. But we could certainly benefit from their support in making our own country great again.

I don't want you over here, but I do want you to succeed over there.

I would love to be able to give some practical support. Until you have a guerilla movement with a fund raising arm in the US, I'll keep on praying for you all.

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