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Thursday, September 13, 2018

ComicsGate HAS been known to attack minorities

The Washington Post decries Two-Face van Sciver and the awful neo-Nazi racists of ComicsGate:
Darryl Ayo, an indie comic creator and critic, told me about one instance in which Comicsgate targeted him for speaking out. Ayo had criticized Malin’s claim that SJWs were Nazis. That night after midnight, popular comics penciler, outspoken right-winger and Comicsgate leader Ethan Van Sciver challenged him to appear on his podcast to debate Malin. “Darryl, come on my show right now and say what you have to say,” Van Sciver tweeted.

Ayo didn’t know Van Sciver and refused the offer. Van Sciver continued to demand that he appear on the show. For anyone who uses Twitter, the result was, predictably, months of insults and harassment. The day before we spoke, eight months after the original confrontation, someone had posted multiple messages on Ayo’s Facebook page to denigrate his art, referencing his conflict with Van Sciver.

Van Sciver framed himself as a proponent of debate and the healthy exchange of ideas. But in fact, he was demanding that Ayo deferentially follow his orders in the middle of the night or be labeled as unreasonable and a justifiable target for abuse. A free speech frame became a way to go after someone for saying things Van Sciver didn’t like — and for putting others on notice that their tweets or comments could make them the next target....

Most of Comicsgate’s targets have been lower profile than Jones or Tran. But that doesn’t mean that the harassers have been ineffective. Meyer, Van Sciver and their followers have made it clear that black critics who question their friends, or female Marvel employees who post selfies online, will be bullied and attacked. Their goal has been to make comics less welcoming to people who aren’t white and male, and they’ve succeeded in that goal.
Well, it certainly cannot be denied that at Ethan van Sciver's instigation, ComicsGatekeepers repeatedly attempted to mau-mau a brilliant and innovative Native American comics publisher as well as issuing death threats to a popular Hispanic writer. Terrible, simply terrible!

I'm just ever so glad that I'm not a part of that deplorable, racist ComicsGate! They must be truly horrible people if the Washington Post says they are!

Meanwhile, the slow-motion suicide of Marvel and DC continues apace.
The upcoming season of The CW’s Supergirl will be a special one, and not just because of the guest stars. The Arrowverse / Berlantiverse series will introduce the first trans superhero to the television universe, and actress Nicole Maines will be bringing character Nia to life.

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54 Comments:

Blogger Verne September 13, 2018 2:25 PM  

Damn alligators eat Mr Comicsgate first. I guess no one told them that they were supposed to eat those he through under the buss first

Blogger Were-Puppy September 13, 2018 2:28 PM  

Screw them.
Besides, in the dead of night, people should be listening to the killstream, not the 24/7 endless livestreams of EVS.

Blogger R Webfoot September 13, 2018 2:32 PM  

EVS should let somebody else host the stream a couple times to spread the SuperChat money around a little, you know?

By the way, is the ComicsGate Comics logo now public domain? You know, for a little light trolling here and there.

Blogger Dave September 13, 2018 2:37 PM  

In the middle of the night, I go walking in my sleep...

Blogger Bogey September 13, 2018 2:38 PM  

Now watch comicsgate rally around Black Superman to prove "not racist".

Blogger #6277 Hammer September 13, 2018 2:51 PM  

Will people like 2VS EVER learn that punching right won't help?

Blogger Longtime Lurker September 13, 2018 2:52 PM  

@6: Beat me to it.

Blogger Dave September 13, 2018 2:54 PM  

2VS should let somebody else host the stream a couple times to spread the SuperChat money around a little, you know?

If 2VS was here right now, he'd pimp slap you for even suggesting he stop whoring for SuperChats.

Blogger FUBARwest September 13, 2018 2:56 PM  

But, but, but ... Comicsgate kicked out the actual nazis. Why is the Washington Post attacking them?

Blogger R Webfoot September 13, 2018 3:07 PM  

"But, but, but ... Comicsgate kicked out the actual nazis. Why is the Washington Post attacking them?"

And Jordan Peterson is an anti-Semite because he talks about IQ.

"If 2VS was here right now, he'd pimp slap you for even suggesting he stop whoring for SuperChats."

Stripping for SuperChats. All show and no real delivery, even if you SuperChat him for a personalized lap dance.

Seriously, the whole SuperChat system gives me the heebie jeebies. It's a similar feeling to microtransactions in free-to-play games. It seems designed specifically for grifters to squeeeeeze coin from those starving for attention from somebody above them on a social hierarchy, ANY social hierarchy, somebody with seeming authority please spend 10 seconds responding to my 200-character message I spent $10 on.

Blogger Jill Domschot September 13, 2018 3:11 PM  

Astonishing.

Blogger Unknown September 13, 2018 3:13 PM  

The author of that piece (Noah Berlatsky) has a nebulous grasp on reality.

This KiA thread on the WaPo piece has some good links to to prior moonbattery pieces the foaming at the mouth lunatic has written:

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/9fiim0/the_washington_post_wades_into_comicsgate_with/

Blogger Dave September 13, 2018 3:13 PM  

It seems designed specifically to squeeeeeze coin from those starving for attention

Pretty well sums it up.

Blogger SmockMan September 13, 2018 3:15 PM  

The enemy of the people attacking cucks because they are the easiest targets...

Blogger Cetera September 13, 2018 3:26 PM  

This whole thing just tickles me so much.


#6277 Hammer wrote:Will people like 2VS EVER learn that punching right won't help?
No.

Blogger Dave September 13, 2018 3:28 PM  

The author of that piece (Noah Berlatsky) has a nebulous grasp on reality.

That's a given; what's going to be of interest is watching the reaction of the "outspoken right-winger and Comicsgate leader Ethan Van Sciver" as these attacks intensify.

Blogger R Webfoot September 13, 2018 3:45 PM  

"The enemy of the people attacking cucks because they are the easiest targets..."

I believe that's part of it, but there's also a psychological warfare element that I do not believe is accidental. Recall the Dalrymple quote, regarding his study of Communist societies, but it applies to the lunatics in our media; "the rhetoric was designed not to in form or instruct, but to humiliate; and for that, the further a lie was from the truth, the more effective; because once people have been forced to accept an obvious lie, or even better repeat it, they lose once and for all their sense of probity and will do whatever is demanded." Not an exact quote.

Many of the masses are not able to tell that 2VS is NOT a Nazi. They see what he says, and they see that this gets attacked as Nazi, and it is programmed into them: saying what EVS says is Nazism, and deserves to be attacked.

Many others of the masses CAN see that EVS is not a Nazi, in part because he says some of what they are thinking - or they can look it up and see that, for example, Tim Hunt spent his entire career trying to get more women into the laboratory, so he's probably not the sort of horrible sexist that is keeping women out of tech. And then they see the attacks, and are able to draw the obvious conclusion: if I spoke my mind, or told a joke, I would be likewise attacked. And they quake in fear.

And the lunatics like this in the media do not act alone - one feature of the shrieking, roiling mob is that they describe everything about the target as negatively as possible. In the case of Tim Hunt, they had women posting pictures of themselves in lab clothes, mocking the idea that they were #dangerouslysexy - pushing the pretense that Tim Hunt was saying this ridiculous thing. I saw another couple that was attacked for making their own clothes and using kerosene lamps and writing about how they like Victorian literature WITHOUT mentioning the bad things the British Empire was doing, the horror - and one of the attacks was that it was "hypocritical" of them to sew their own clothes and use kerosene instead of electricity, but they sold their books on the internet.

One function of this madness is that the gullible marks shaking in fear of being the next target, can take any of those things and use it as an excuse to blame the victim. For instance, "Tim Hunt should have known that such a joke like that could upset somebody, and I would never tell a joke like that," and then they pretend all they have to do is not tell a joke like that, and sweep the rest of the matter under the rug. And they go back to their business, the ugly matter behind them - but, consciously or subconsciously, they make damn sure to not do anything that would get them attacked.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook September 13, 2018 3:53 PM  

Well he cant say you didnt try to warn him.

Blogger Long Live the West September 13, 2018 3:59 PM  

#6277 Hammer wrote:Will people like 2VS EVER learn that punching right won't help?

Punching Right gives them momentary acceptance from the horde. And that my friend, is worth more than all the gold in the world.

Blogger LP999-16 September 13, 2018 4:08 PM  

They are terrible, terrible people, oh my gosh, I'm shocked, just shocked.

They goofed: DTTTM but its awesommmee that Bezos blog is onto CG. Next up what will Amazon do to comics on sale?

Wow, I wonder if WashPo used the CG image, oh my, run, run to some youtube atty.

2 faced liar!

"I just want to create a legacy of beautiful comics."

Welcome to the Jungle, bro. Epic, epic fun.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 13, 2018 4:12 PM  

Dark Herald was right. I'll bet he offs himself, on a good day he is not all there, on a bad day it's a no limit game.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz September 13, 2018 4:30 PM  

These people will never learn. They take the side of the people who hate them want them dead and for their children to starve. They cannot recognize the enemy. No amount of disemployment, punches in the face, kicked off of websites etc will ever convince them to fight back.
They truly hope the SJWs will get them last.

Blogger Lance E September 13, 2018 4:34 PM  

All I can say is: friggin' LOL.

You reap what you sow, two-face. What would be more valuable right about now: a few thousand mindless fanboys pooping in YouTube comments, or a friendly group of high-profile artists, authors and editors, one of whom owns a publishing company?

Blogger Matthew McDaniel September 13, 2018 4:38 PM  

Maybe the Evs Comicsgate crowd should use a burning cross as their logo.

Blogger Peaceful Poster September 13, 2018 4:38 PM  

Now watch comicsgate rally around Black Superman to prove "not racist".

Negroman can leap TWO buildings in a single bound.

Blogger Nathan Housley September 13, 2018 4:44 PM  

Google has to be laughing at every Right/dissident movement addicted to Super Chats. Google takes their cut from each and fleeces their enemies.

Blogger Doomfinger September 13, 2018 4:46 PM  

"Will people like 2VS EVER learn that punching right won't help?"

He's helping himself, and that's all that matters to him. If he really cared about CG he act differently.

Blogger Pseudotsuga September 13, 2018 4:51 PM  

Oh, yay, a TRANSsuperhero! That's so amazing! Xer will bring hope and justice to all the millions of trans-youths who read comix, hoping to find role models for themselves, just like all the other cis-readers do.
That ought to sell tens, or maybe even hundreds of issues!

Blogger pyrrhus September 13, 2018 5:06 PM  

"Punching Right gives them momentary acceptance from the horde. And that my friend, is worth more than all the gold in the world."

Worth more to the stupid or emotionally damaged. Which admittedly is probably 3/4 of the US population.

Blogger Bultz September 13, 2018 5:10 PM  

omg vox will you just stop harrassing them, they just want to be left alone and be apolitical omg

Blogger Bultz September 13, 2018 5:12 PM  

"Seriously, the whole SuperChat system gives me the heebie jeebies. "

it turns popular youtubers into livestream maniacs, after 2 successful streams it becomes their entire business model. It definitely has its purpose, but there is something strange about superchatting a man who just raised 500k another $100 just so he can read out a message on a stream

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 13, 2018 5:26 PM  

Superchat is, so far as I can tell, a direct development or a straight cop from the porn industry.

The dynamics should make a lot of sense with that understanding.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 13, 2018 5:39 PM  

:)

Blogger SirHamster September 13, 2018 6:01 PM  

R Webfoot wrote:It seems designed specifically for grifters to squeeeeeze coin from those starving for attention from somebody above them on a social hierarchy, ANY social hierarchy, somebody with seeming authority please spend 10 seconds responding to my 200-character message I spent $10 on.

The SDL offers much cheaper rates for much better commentary, and you get to say you're helping save Western Civ, 1x comic/book at a time.

Blogger SirHamster September 13, 2018 6:03 PM  

Cetera wrote:#6277 Hammer wrote:Will people like 2VS EVER learn that punching right won't help?

No.


As one learns from the conservatives repeatedly warning leftists to no effect ... at some point, you realize they're just not on your side.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 13, 2018 6:25 PM  

@23. Excellent point. A comic cartoon of that needs to be illustrated for our merriment.

To everyone who's suffered from 2VS and his back-stabbing mob--let the schadenfreude flow. Cheers.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume September 13, 2018 6:55 PM  

That WaPo piece was amusing. Their attack 2VS but only cause he made himself the weak link.

It's not about being eaten last: he had a small pack of potenially like-minded people and allies. Then he separated himself from them and made himself a target. Because he was dumb enough to think he could reason with them.

2VS is Harry Ellis from Die Hard:

"Hey, SJWs! Spechen ze talk?"

How'd that work out for Harry?

Blogger Wolfman at Large September 13, 2018 7:15 PM  

Darryl Ayo very specifically needs to go back.

Blogger Confederate Sun September 13, 2018 7:37 PM  

I was one of these people who got conned by EVS and Comicsgate. I never donated a Super Chat but I did support a lot of books. I thought they were decent people who were being attacked by DC and Marvel because they were Christians. Thankfully, I realized even before they started attacking Will Caligan and VD that they were not people I wanted to support and cancelled my orders.

Blogger JACIII September 13, 2018 8:39 PM  

And so soon after vd released the cg imprint. If only there had been someone else involved in cg to help blunt this attack....
C'est la vie!

Blogger LP999-16 September 13, 2018 8:53 PM  

Vox is insulted again, its wrong! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSAk7IJQgoo

Blogger LP999-16 September 13, 2018 8:55 PM  

Thanks for the darkstream!

"Muh trademarks."

Crybabies pestering Vox

Blogger InformationMerchant September 13, 2018 9:26 PM  

@41 That's the best VD is going to get from a neutral party, the bias arguably leans in his favour. That AnimeRight guy has a decent idea of what the Alt Right is, what the nature of an imprint is and approximately where VD stands on both of those.

I've watched about half a dozen other people try to explain what happened and I had given up on anyone even covering any of those issues even remotely accurately.

Blogger Warunicorn September 13, 2018 9:35 PM  

"actress Nicole Maines"

It's amazing how much they entertain their delusions.

Blogger Garuna September 13, 2018 9:43 PM  

"If only we cuck a little more, the liberals will finally respect us!"

The Diversity&Comics guy was genuinely shocked that Comedy Central attacked him. 2VS insists that he owns a hashtag. Ian Ching Chong imitates right-wingers and tries to buddy-up with them, and after they reject him, he accuses them of imitating him. And so many token minorities and wammen.

ComicsGatekeepers are spiritual BOOMERS.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 13, 2018 10:54 PM  

@25 Peaceful Poster
Now watch comicsgate rally around Black Superman to prove "not racist".

Negroman can leap TWO buildings in a single bound.
--

He can l00t tall buildings in a single bound
He is faster than cops speeding bullets

Blogger Were-Puppy September 13, 2018 11:01 PM  

Looks from the trenches.

Sees Comicsgaters taking incoming.

Munches popcorn.



Blogger GammaCatch September 13, 2018 11:29 PM  

I'm certain the lesson is completely lost on EVS and his crew. The community has taken a real nosedive over there. I hopped in on a few streams. No one is discussing the Culture or narrative media anymore. It's as if they ALL forgot that Leftism is the Enemy and this is a war to reclaim, or at least preserve, whatever we can for those future members of United States Culture.

Blogger Bob Loblaw September 14, 2018 12:58 AM  

I'm amazed at the sheer speed at which deviancy became normalized in US culture. It's breathtaking, really.

Blogger wreckage September 14, 2018 3:37 AM  

Bugger. Am I late? I DISAVOW! I DISAVOW!

Blogger Mr. Bee September 14, 2018 4:04 AM  

Hell hath no fury like a prima donna scorned.

Blogger Avalanche September 14, 2018 8:20 AM  

@18 "Well he cant say you didnt try to warn him."

But he will.

Blogger Avalanche September 14, 2018 8:33 AM  

@24 Maybe the Evs Comicsgate crowd should use a burning cross as their logo.

Or a burning writer? They've already tried to light JDA on fire... And of course, Vox Day revels in their pitiful flames, does he not?


@25 "Negroman can leap TWO buildings in a single bound."

Negroman can burn two Starbucks with one torch.


@46 "He is faster than cops speeding bullets"

No, thankfully, he's not. Nor is he immune to them.


@27 2VS "helping himself, and that's all that matters to him. If he really cared about CG he act differently."

Except he sees himself as (the avatar of) CG -- and so, caring about himself IS caring about ComicsGate!


@49 "I'm amazed at the sheer speed at which deviancy became normalized in US culture. It's breathtaking, really."

Uh, shouldn't that be 'choking and gagging, really'?

Blogger The CronoLink September 14, 2018 5:41 PM  

Garuna wrote:"If only we cuck a little more, the liberals will finally respect us!"

The Diversity&Comics guy was genuinely shocked that Comedy Central attacked him.


I went to google a bit and dig some lore about it, like the Jeffries interview, but where do you get the "genuinely shocked" bit? Did the D&C guy made a video about it or is it something read between the lines?

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