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Friday, September 21, 2018

Rosenstein the Rat

How does this guy still have a job?
The deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, suggested last year that he secretly record President Trump in the White House to expose the chaos consuming the administration, and he discussed recruiting cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Mr. Trump from office for being unfit.

Mr. Rosenstein made these suggestions in the spring of 2017 when Mr. Trump’s firing of James B. Comey as F.B.I. director plunged the White House into turmoil. Over the ensuing days, the president divulged classified intelligence to Russians in the Oval Office, and revelations emerged that Mr. Trump had asked Mr. Comey to pledge loyalty and end an investigation into a senior aide.

Mr. Rosenstein was just two weeks into his job. He had begun overseeing the Russia investigation and played a key role in the president’s dismissal of Mr. Comey by writing a memo critical of his handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation. But Mr. Rosenstein was caught off guard when Mr. Trump cited the memo in the firing, and he began telling people that he feared he had been used.

Mr. Rosenstein made the remarks about secretly recording Mr. Trump and about the 25th Amendment in meetings and conversations with other Justice Department and F.B.I. officials. Several people described the episodes, insisting on anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. The people were briefed either on the events themselves or on memos written by F.B.I. officials, including Andrew G. McCabe, then the acting bureau director, that documented Mr. Rosenstein’s actions and comments.
Something must be going down soon with Rosenstein, because I don't see how he can remain in office after this.

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96 Comments:

Blogger Timmy3 September 21, 2018 5:05 PM  

A perfect opportunity to clean house. Fire him and Sessions.

Blogger Vaughan Williams September 21, 2018 5:08 PM  

Remember all the 17's in the Q drops? Starting on September 11 I had an experience where a large number of rats started drowning themselves in a tub in my back yard. And yes, when I looked at the tally for each day, the number 17 figured prominently.

Blogger RobertT September 21, 2018 5:09 PM  

Why did this come out now? Why did the NYT break the story?

Blogger Vaughan Williams September 21, 2018 5:15 PM  

The tally was 17, 23, 9, 0, 1, 0, 1. Or going by the running total, 17, 40, 49, 49, 50, 50, 51. 51 is 3x17.

Rats are smart and cautious, good at avoiding traps. What happened was unusual. I've never seen anything like it before.

Remember The Storm?

Genesis 7
11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

The Great Flood drowned a sinful world. I think some sinners are going down in this Storm as well.

Blogger Lurker September 21, 2018 5:18 PM  

((How!?)))

"Rosenstein made the remarks about secretly recording Mr. Trump and about the 25th Amendment in meetings and conversations with other..."

Didn't another lawyer named (((Cohen))) do the same to Trump? Hmmm maybe there's a pattern?

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma September 21, 2018 5:19 PM  

I just can't believe that another member of our Greatest Ally would be involved in a backstabbing conspiracy to corrupt the top levels of our government, and supported by his totally unrelated kinsmen who run the MSM. Unbelievable.

Blogger Hammerli280 September 21, 2018 5:20 PM  

I suspect it's all in the timing at this point. Trump needs to get Kavanaugh confirmed, get that story off the table.

THEN drop the boom on the Mother of All Scandals. Hopefully with an aggressive policy of arrests and prosecutions. If he does this right, we're talking about trials unprecedented in American history.

Blogger Robert What? September 21, 2018 5:21 PM  

@Lurker,

Most of the Trump betrayers have (((one thing))) in common.

Blogger Hammerli280 September 21, 2018 5:25 PM  

I'll add that the foreign relations impacts will be significant. Right now, our three closest allies are the UK, Canada, and Australia. It's looking like the intelligence communities of at least two of these may be implicated in the Illegal Surveillance and Seditious Conspiracy crimes.

And thinking about it, the UK has had a longstanding issue with their Government having its own Deep State - Whitehall Mandarins from the "proper" schools, followed by Oxford or Cambridge. And trying to run things to suit themselves with damned little regard for the elected officials, even less for the general public.

Blogger S1AL September 21, 2018 5:26 PM  

I see two possibilities:

Trump is letting his enemies hang themselves one at a time

This was bait approved by Trump. Note that we don't have a quote, and that the NYT broke the story

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 21, 2018 5:29 PM  

NYT is the lead on this story? Something smells, besides Rosenstein of course.

Blogger Ken Prescott September 21, 2018 5:34 PM  

Do not trust this piece. It is intended to provoke Trump into doing something "impeachable."

This sounds like it was written by a West Wing fanboi, without any input from someone who knows how government actually works.

Blogger Stilicho September 21, 2018 5:35 PM  

Wait, wasn't Q claiming Rosenstein was #ourguy (along with Mueller)?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 21, 2018 5:37 PM  

RobertT wrote:Why did this come out now? Why did the NYT break the story?
Tehre are two possibilities:
1) /ourside/ has started playing the character assassination by leak game.
2) Roaches scattering when the light is turned on.


Option 1 is unlikely, at least with Sessions in charge.
Option 2 would indicate that the unredacted FISA warrant application, text messages, etc have some of the swamp residents worried about their own survival. "He was just terrible. Criminal and disloyal, perhaps even megalomaniacal. Not like me."


This is what rats do when the hull is breached.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 21, 2018 5:38 PM  

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Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 21, 2018 5:39 PM  

Ken Prescott wrote:This sounds like it was written by a West Wing fanboi
A possibility I hadn't considered. Good work Anon.

Blogger The Social Pathologist September 21, 2018 5:45 PM  

@Ken Prescott

Exactly.

Why is the NYT exposing him if he is "their guy".

I'd take anything the NYT says about Trump and his administration with a pound of salt.

Looking at the nature of the "leaks" over the past few weeks I'm getting the impression that the NYT is trying to "play around with Trump's head", trying to amp up his paranoia. I'm not sure if Rosenstein is crooked or not, but the story will playing into the cognitive biases of many on the Alt-Right. I'd be more worried about the guys that the NYT is NOT pointing out.

Blogger Didas Kalos September 21, 2018 5:54 PM  

Actually they have 6 things in common. ((()))

Blogger Silent Draco September 21, 2018 6:02 PM  

By now, Hillary would told everyone via her SOTU address that she could ABSOLUTELY PROVE, by geometric logic, how Donal1d Trump ate her strawberries. Then remove Bill's drird testicles from her pocket, and slowly click them together. "The Caine Mutiny" had so many teaching moments.

Blogger Hari Seldon September 21, 2018 6:15 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:NYT is the lead on this story? Something smells, besides Rosenstein of course.

That's a good point, but according to Mike Cernovich: "Mike Schmidt has a different rep in "Trumpland," as he's seen as someone who goes after both sides and doesn't really care who wins. I don't know any serious person who dismisses his stories even when they are critical. Hence why today's Rosenstein story is an actual bombshell."

That, plus the fact that Lindsay Graham is attacking this story, makes me inclined to believe it...

Blogger Lance E September 21, 2018 6:18 PM  

If NYT is breaking this story, then I don't trust it. They protect their own.

Knives out for Rosenstein likely means he was ready to squeal on the bigger fish. They want to destroy his credibility before he can do that, and put Trump in a bind: either defend one swamp rat, or lose a star witness against worse swamp rats.

Of course that's all just speculation. But one thing I'm sure of is that NYT either isn't telling the whole truth or has an ulterior motive with this story.

Trump's reaction will probably tell us which one.

Blogger Timmy3 September 21, 2018 6:22 PM  

Now Trump’s declassification order makes more sense. They can’t stop true transparency.

Blogger EasyCompany September 21, 2018 6:24 PM  

Now Trump’s declassification order makes more sense. They can’t stop true transparency.

Then I wonder why he decided NOT to release them then?

Blogger Sagramore September 21, 2018 6:26 PM  

@9 Right now, our three closest allies are the UK, Canada, and Australia. It's looking like the intelligence communities of at least two of these may be implicated

Perhaps the third one was coerced into grudgingly helping Trump because otherwise a whole lot more of their shenanigans on behalf of the Clinton Foundation would be exposed. If you kill your enemies, they win, and all that.

Blogger Timmy3 September 21, 2018 6:27 PM  

Trump was pursued to allow the IG to review the the documents. Now that the Deep State is further exposed, the IG can no longer stop it.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction September 21, 2018 6:27 PM  

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Blogger Theproductofafineeduction September 21, 2018 6:29 PM  

Q said the NYT story was an attempt to get Trump to fire Rosenstein. I'm inclined to believe given that the WaPo story differs from the NYT story. The NYT is reporting that their source said Rosenstein was serious about getting Trump impeached whilst the WaPo source said Rosenstein was being sarcastic. Based off that, seems like a bait and switch, once Trump fire Rosenstein the media would shift to Trump firing someone over an unsubstantiated rumor on a most likely sarcastic comment.

Given your observation that the media is backing off of the Blue Wave narrative. Makes me wonder if getting Trump to fire Rosenstein is a last ditch desperate effort to generate democratic voter turn out.

Blogger Nathan September 21, 2018 6:33 PM  

I don't trust the NYT, and agree with the commenters that hink they're trying to provoke Trump into making some kind of mistake. It won't work, of course.

Of course, that theory holds up whether Rosenstein is a rat or not.

Blogger Lovekraft September 21, 2018 6:37 PM  

There does seem to be some weight behind the NYT story:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/shots-fired-andrew-mccabe-does-not-deny-ny-times-bombshell-rosenstein-report-in-statement-on-his-memos/

Of course, this could also just mean McCabe was crafting his own 'insurance policy'. But either way, it does indicate the noose is getting tighter around NoBordersBarack.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 21, 2018 6:39 PM  

Yes, this looks like another attempt to push Trump into firing someone in the chain of command to Mueller, so that can be used to revive the Mah Russia narrative and whip up pro-impeachment sentiment.

I figure they kept Rosenstein in place because they knew he was guilty along with Comey, McCabe, Lynch, et al, so they could burn him whenever they wanted. In the meantime, it let the Swamp think they had the upper hand, with Mueller as their bloodhound and Swamp creature Rosenstein running him. He could have been useful for leaking disinfo to the other side, too.

Blogger Silly but True September 21, 2018 6:53 PM  

The answer is given at the end:
“The people were briefed either on the events themselves or on memos written by F.B.I. officials, including Andrew G. McCabe, then the acting bureau director, that documented Mr. Rosenstein’s actions and comments.”

To clarify “the people were briefed...” does not mean McCabe was briefed.

McCabe wrote meeting minutes. Lisa Page wrote meeting minutes.

McCabe & Page’s meeting minutes do not agree.

The allegation that Rosenstein considered having cabinet members use 25th Amendnent appear only incCabe’s minutes.

McCabe is on the opposite side as Rosenstein.

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 21, 2018 6:54 PM  

So why IS the NYT running this story?

As paranoid as it sounds the only thing I can come up with is, that there is now a coup attempt...within the Deep State itself.

Think about it.

Rod Rosenstein is basically the Leader of the Internal Opposition. Chuck Scheamer has gone to the wall for him repeatedly.

Yet suddenly, Rod is being sent to the wall himself.

President Trump will have no choice but to fire him for this but the vital question is...

... Who takes over for Rod Rosenstein as Leader of the Internal Opposition?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 21, 2018 7:04 PM  

NYT next week:

ROSENSTEIN FIRED FOR INSUFFICIENT REVOLUTIONARY DEDICATION

Blogger Jeffrey Johnson September 21, 2018 7:04 PM  

The rats in the Deep State are worried about getting revealed in the un-redacted documents that President Trump ordered released. Those documents are going to be public in about 3 weeks. All of the big hitters like: Rosenstein, McCabe, Comey, Brenner, Clapper, plus a bunch of people we haven't heard of yet are in panic mode. The whole muh Russia thing was a fishing expedition to get something on the GE that they could use to get rid of him, but it failed. Now they see that the Blue Wave isn't going to happen, Muller has nothing, etc. For them it's a sinking ship and they are all fighting to be the one to escape and let the others drown.

I suspect that it was most likely the New York Times working with McCabe getting this article out there. The Times is in a rough spot because they published that ridiculous article a few weeks ago more or less proving that the Deep State really is undermining the GE. I don't know what they were expecting with that article. Did they really think that it was going to lead to the American people to come out and cheer for the Deep State and demand that they remove the GE from office? Anyway after that article, their head is in the noose too. So the New York Times has an interest in laying the blame elsewhere. It's very easy to conclude that Rosenstein was very likely the guy on that article a few weeks ago and this is their way of turning him over.

McCabe was probably all of the "anonymous" sources for the article. He's getting fried and may very well end up in jail over this mess. He either wants to get a bunch of other people busted so that he looks less bad by comparison or he feels sold out by his allies so he's bringing them with him.

All of these Deep State actors have this fantasy that they are real life players in a modern Game of Thrones. All of them have this fantasy that they are the modern real life version of Littlefinger and Varys but in reality they are just mid level functionaries who got caught plotting way above their skill level.

I highly doubt that this story is a plant to get Trump to fire Rosenstein so that Muller can bring charges against Trump for obstruction of justice. There isn't a single conservative voter who is going to turn his back on President Trump over firing Rosenstein. For the Deep State to impeach and remove Trump they have to get Trump's approval with conservatives way down. That's why Stormy Daniels was a thing the last 6 months. If 6 months of revealing that the GE is an ally cat isn't going to hurt him with conservatives then nothing will.

I'd expect several more stories about Rosenstein to come out this weekend. I'd expect Rosenstein to do his own "anonymous" source stories early next week and I expect that Rosenstein will be unemployed by next Friday night. It should be a fun week.

Blogger Jay in DC September 21, 2018 7:06 PM  

@32 "So why IS the NYT running this story?

As paranoid as it sounds the only thing I can come up with is, that there is now a coup attempt...within the Deep State itself."

Occam's Razor. You are overthinking it along with many commenters here some of whom are positively mental w/ the numerology bullshit.

NYT obviously is running this as interference / deflection, why?

Because once those memos are declassified they will point to LITERAL acts of sedition against a sitting president which would have netted you a death penalty in any other sane era.

This way, they 'prep' people ahead of time and also weasel Rod says in the article "clearly I was just joking" to deflect the very serious high crime he would stand accused of.

This is simply to soften the blow the unredacted memos will be and possibly keep people, at a minimum, out of prison. When in reality every one of those cocksuckers should be lined up in front of a firing squad which is how sedition was traditionally dealt with.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz September 21, 2018 7:06 PM  

I read that Rosenstein signed the FISA warrant against Trump (renewal) in July of 2017, after the appointment of Muller.

Blogger tublecane September 21, 2018 7:08 PM  

@8- I remember an article in Haaretz about how the confluence of Cohen, Weisselberg, and Pecker could lead to anti-semitic "backlash" in the event of Trump's downfall. Then there was an article from this or that outlet trying to tie Q to anti-semitismanti-semitism, and all they could come up with was Soros and Rosenstein.

Which is to say they know, and they're preparing the ground to make anyone who Notices anathema.

Blogger pnq8787 September 21, 2018 7:15 PM  

So let me get this straight... The most powerful man in the world, the U.S. President, supposedly has the power to initiate thermonuclear war, but he can't fire one sneering snivelling rattus-kikus in one of his own departments? The supposed commander-in-chief can't build a flipping border wall? This country is a joke. Seriously. The United States is the biggest clown show circus act ever. Please God, accept my prayer. Please let Russia and China win the next war. Please slap down this clown show!

Blogger tz September 21, 2018 7:15 PM  

From nothingburger to Rosenburger, at least once the grinder starts.

What is whispered in the inner room will be shouted from the housetops.

One useful effect is that it shows what Trump is up against - the swamp is very deep, and I would bet Trump uses the upcoming rallies to explain he needs a bigger pump to drain it.

Even the left (at least the non-zombies) recognize the elites don't have anyone's interest except their own in mind. The GOP is slowly and with fits and starts becoming the populist party. The Democrats are bifurcating into the Bernie Crazies and the old guard elite that help billionaires and wall street (while demoninzing the Kochs and such).

Michael Moore had one error when he asked Bannon who replied Trump did killshots while they did pillow fights. The pillow fights are among the corrupt crony cucks - both the cuckservatives and cuckocialists. The killshots were from a bottle of well aged populist whisky. The Democrat base will eventually see the Bernie Crazies as irrelevant and Trump's populism fixing things, even health care (O-C, "No! we demand single payer!).

It is sorting into the Whig flip elite v.s. the TRiUMPhal populists.

Blogger tublecane September 21, 2018 7:19 PM  

The 25th amendment, seriously? Sounds like a stupid t.v. plot.

If Rosenstein thought he could actually catch Trump doing something illegal, why wouldn't he go the impeachment route? He sounds like a bowtie-spinner, worrying about Trump doing things perfectly within the power of a president. But in fact he must have been a little traitor, suggesting ridiculous schemes because he thought Trump simply could not be president.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction September 21, 2018 7:19 PM  

Looks like Omarosa may have been a Rope a Dope.

▶Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 09/21/18 (Fri) 15:03:51 No.284


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-wear-wire-25th-amendment.html
1 = 1
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/07/omarosa-plans-another-tape-release-next-week-report.html
The More You Know…
Q

Blogger Cataline Sergius September 21, 2018 7:21 PM  

@Jay in DC

You're no fun.

Alright, the most likely explanation is that everyone knows that win or lose Trump is firing Rosenstien after the mid-terms.

Consequently, he is exceptionally expendable.

If one thing is on the headlines than another thing isn't. Namely the Rake-In-Face Kavanaugh accusation.

Blogger jb September 21, 2018 7:26 PM  

What Q said was this:

If RR is dirty, Mueller is dirty
If Muller is dirty, RR is dirty.

A lot will go down this coming Wednesday. Trump knows full well the commie dems insisting on Thursday is an attempt to keep Kavanaugh from partipating in the new SCOTUS term.

Once Kavanaugh's nomination is secure, I held things will be revealed and actions taken at a very swift pace.

Blogger tublecane September 21, 2018 7:29 PM  

@38- There was an international news controversy over how fast Trump dropped fish food into water during his trip to Japan. The president can't even feed fish at ha rate of his choosing.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that was one of the grounds for Rosenstein's invocation of the 25th.

Blogger Hari Seldon September 21, 2018 7:33 PM  

John Robb's take:

"The NYTimes editorial board can't influence national politics using journalism anymore. So, it's dabbling in reactive control (a type of psychological operation favored by the Russians)."

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 21, 2018 7:52 PM  

Just read that the rally Trump is speaking at right now in Missouri is being held in a stadium nicknamed The Q.

Blogger eclecticme September 21, 2018 7:59 PM  

McCabe confirmed the existence of such memos in response to the NYT story. He could have added a sentence denying the Rosenstein statements allegedly in the NYT report. He did not. Maybe Mccabe and Cohen want some company under the bus.

Blogger Al Du Clur September 21, 2018 8:04 PM  

Trump has shown a preference for hiring Never Trumpers and allowing Trump loyalists to be purged by them. Even if the NYT article is more fake news, Rosenstein has already shown he is part of the Deep State cabal and Trump has seemingly been fine with it. Will be interesting to see what happens now though. Is there a line that Never Trumpers can't cross?

Blogger John Calla September 21, 2018 8:23 PM  

Remember the good ol' days when the Democrats would relentlessly hammer the Republicans for trying to destroy medicare and SS and they would just take it right up the butt? Trump has been good at turning that around and saying he's going to protect medicare and SS while the Democrats are going to raid those programs to give all your money away to illegal immigrants.

Republicans are going to win 100% of the boomer vote.

Blogger Steve Canyon September 21, 2018 8:25 PM  

Media paints this guy as some sort of noble altruist patriot type, that's the only proof required that he's thoroughly corrupt

Blogger Lazarus September 21, 2018 8:25 PM  

jb wrote:Once Kavanaugh's nomination is secure, I held things will be revealed and actions taken at a very swift pace.

Patience, Grasshopper. After Kavenaugh, then FISA declas. Then the consequences. It is still September. No need to rush.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 21, 2018 8:31 PM  

Can't do an October Surprise in September come on guys know your scandal schedules!

Blogger Sam Drucker September 21, 2018 8:35 PM  

You guys are in a fog. Trump is not a genius. He claims he's going to Washington to drain the swamp and then he surrounds himself with establishment moles. He even gets convinced to try to put one of them on the Supreme Court (Kavanaugh). As much as I'd like to drink the Koolaid, Kavanaugh makes it obvious that Trump is a dupe.
https://tomwoods.com/ep-1198-judge-napolitano-on-kavanaugh-and-the-courts-worst-decisions/

Blogger Edgar Abbey September 21, 2018 8:37 PM  

I think everyone can agree the NYT works for the Democratic Party and, at times, the globalist branch of the Republican Party. The question we have to ask is, how does this news story help the Democrats? It doesn't matter whether or not the news is fake. All that matters is what fallout occurs. On its surface, it would appear to be someone's attempt to frame Rosenstein for an offense that would get him fired by Trump. Why would the Dems want Rosenstein fired? Well, if he was about to do damage to the Dems, then they might. But if he was going after Dems, then presumably, he would be working closely with Trump, and Trump would not buy this fake news at all and would therefore have no reason to fire Rosenstein. On the other hand, if Rosenstein is in league with the globalists, with the Resistance, whatever, then he would be in a prime position where he is now, and the Dems would have no motivation whatsoever to bait Trump into firing him. There is clearly something going on behind the scenes. Nothing about this can be taken at face value. But I'm having a little trouble seeing who benefits from this story.

Blogger Eagle Elk September 21, 2018 8:42 PM  

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/breaking-rosenstein-discussed-wearing-a-wire-in-plot-to-take-down-trump-a-second-time/

Some interesting comments in this thread......about firing Rosey being a plus for the Dem turnout in Nov.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 21, 2018 8:43 PM  

Sam Drucker,

The reaction to Kavanagh from the left tells you it was the right choice. You have to get out of the libertarian myopia. Nationalist vs Globalist is the only political axis that matters now. Libertarians are Globalists, by the way.

Blogger Jack Amok September 21, 2018 8:44 PM  

Makes me wonder if getting Trump to fire Rosenstein is a last ditch desperate effort to generate democratic voter turn out.

There are exactly zero voters who would negatively change their opinion on Trump because he fired a guy in his own administration for trying to wire-tap him. If there's a voter turnout angle, it would have to be simply painting the Trump Administration as a chaotic circus. Demoralize our side ("how can Trump ever succeed? He can't even control his own people. We're doooomed...") and encourage their side ("see, even his own people think he needs to be gotten out of office...")

Why is the NYT exposing him if he is "their guy".

Well, like Cataline said, there might be a coup within Ze Resistaaaaaance!!!!! and one group of rats is trying to topple a powerbroker for a different group of rats. Or maybe Rod crossed the wrong Swampie. Or maybe the PR wing thought making it look like there's chaos and rebellion within the Trump Admin is worth sacrificing a guy who wasn't delivering results.

or maybe not delivering the results is the reason. Or maybe he flipped and decided to play ball with Snoozy?

Lot's of possibilities. Popcorn on this one.


Blogger Lazarus September 21, 2018 8:50 PM  

Sam Drucker wrote:. As much as I'd like to drink the Koolaid, Kavanaugh makes it obvious that Trump is a dupe.

It just means Trump is not a Libertardian.

Bane would be pleased.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey September 21, 2018 8:51 PM  

Something to remember: There was a letter from the DoJ that recommended the firing of James Comey. And Trump fired James Comey. That letter was written by one Rod Rosenstein. This is the schematic of how it went down:

Rosenstein: Trump, I recommend you fire James Comey.
Trump: James Comey, you're fired!
Rosenstein: I'm naming a special counsel to investigate the firing of James Comey.


And now we find out Rosenstein was on a recruitment mission to support the entrapment of the President of the United States (totally honestly, I am sure!) on the day before Trump followed Rosenstein's own advice to him!


Rosenstein et al. should be guillotined. But we live in a whacked out world where nothing is possible but absurdity.


Blogger Silly but True September 21, 2018 8:53 PM  

“Who wins? Who wins?”

Comey wins.

Going back to McCabe and Midyear OIG reports, McCabe & Comey have both testified under oath to FBI & DoJ OIG that the other one did it; both have called the other a liar since OIG reports were released.

This is nothing but a Comey play to burn McCabe.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 21, 2018 8:54 PM  

Speaking of Missouri, I heard a Claire McCaskill ad today. The impression it gave is that she's such a huge supporter of the president on border security that she plans to man the first turret built on top of the Wall, wearing a MAGA hat and a Trumpslide t-shirt.

Obviously a pack of lies, and I'm sure the same ad isn't running in St. Louis as in rural areas. But she clearly knows where the votes are, at least outside the city. They're with President Trump and strong borders, and she's not being shy about courting them.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 21, 2018 8:56 PM  

As much as I'd like to drink the Koolaid

Put this on the list with "I hope I'm wrong." Nope, don't believe it.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 21, 2018 9:05 PM  

Too scared to jump on board. Has to leave himself an out.

Time to burn the ships buddy.

Blogger Hammerli280 September 21, 2018 9:07 PM  

I get the definite impression that it's "Sauve Qui Peut" time for the Dem conspirators. Q claims Loretta Lynch has turned State's Evidence.

Blogger Mandos September 21, 2018 9:09 PM  

Deep State internal reckoning is the most likely explanation, bearing in mind [RR] has never been attacked from his side before. I remain cautious though, since as always we are dealing with a bunch of sources that are impossible to confirm and Rosenstein of course vehemently denies. I don't doubt for a second that the has said that and done much worse, nor do I doubt that the NYT is being disingenuous and has a precise purpose in mind with releasing that story, but there's a lot of gaslighting going on in there which means potential escape avenues for the rats.

One thing is for sure, the walls are closing in, the panic is palpable.

Blogger Edgar Abbey September 21, 2018 9:37 PM  

One possibility is that Rosenstein is about to be exposed as a criminal in the upcoming declassification. If he has already been fired for the "lesser" offense of discussing wearing a wire, then it takes him out of the awkward position of being an exposed criminal simultaneously occupying the position of Deputy AG. There may be some benefit to somebody to having him out of the spotlight when that revelation is made.

Blogger Mister Excitement September 21, 2018 9:44 PM  

OT, but the Littlest Chickenhawk has a new show on Foxnews. Who would have predicted this?

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/09/21/ben-shapiro-discusses-new-fox-news-show-ben-shapiro-election-special

Blogger Cecil Henry September 21, 2018 10:17 PM  

@67

Controlled opposition and (((networking))).

Blogger Were-Puppy September 21, 2018 10:19 PM  

@49 John Calla

Trump has been good at turning that around and saying he's going to protect medicare and SS while the Democrats are going to raid those programs to give all your money away to illegal immigrants.
---

I saw him do that one at this recent Las Vegas rally. That one has to hurt the Dems.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 21, 2018 10:20 PM  

He also had what appeared to be an off hand comment. He said something like 'get out and vote so we can do this the right way' .

And I thought, hmm, I wonder what the wrong way would be ?

Blogger Were-Puppy September 21, 2018 10:27 PM  

Q posts 2251, 2209, 2195, 2108
all have this memorable statement:

Goodbye, Mr. Rosenstein.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf September 21, 2018 10:27 PM  

We'll have to wait until the elections in November are over. There's no sense giving the Left ANY motivation to get out the vote. Sequestration of The Rat is prudent at this time. Fire him mid 2019.
Speaking of which, I do strongly encourage everyone reading here to vote. It's extremely easy and can be completed by mail without any hassel.

Blogger Sam Drucker September 21, 2018 11:05 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Nationalist vs Globalist is the only political axis that matters now. Libertarians are Globalists, by the way.

Knowing 3 things 1) Kavanaugh thinks the 4th amendment should be ignored. 2) W and his Globalists support him. 3) Trump could have picked another Gorsuch-like Justice. Trump is clueless when it comes to fighting Globalists.

Blogger Jack Amok September 21, 2018 11:08 PM  

Knowing 3 things 1) Kavanaugh thinks the 4th amendment should be ignored.

Does Kavanaugh really think the 4th Amendment should be ignored, or do you and he just disagree on what is reasonable?

Blogger Lazarus September 21, 2018 11:18 PM  

Sam Drucker wrote:Trump is clueless when it comes to fighting Globalists.

If I called you a moron, it would not do justice to describing the depth and width of your ignorance, so I will not call you a moron.

Blogger Silent Draco September 21, 2018 11:25 PM  

Reference for this, please? Search is not returning with a relevant item, and pain needs to tell wearing thin.

If it's reflexive control, will fail. Trump is a Scoundrel (Type I society) and does not care, essentially immune to as anything that works on a cuck (Hero or Saint). GE's strokes rip the Type II attackers to pieces, playing at least at 5-6th reflexive level.

Blogger Jack Amok September 21, 2018 11:26 PM  

If I called you a moron, it would not do justice to describing the depth and width of your ignorance, so I will not call you a moron.


Maybe call him a Libertarian instead. Oh, right...

Blogger Cetera September 21, 2018 11:38 PM  

@Stilicho,no Q hasn't ever said RR is our guy. NeonRevolt has privately suspected that, but I think he's wrong.

Blogger Looking Glass September 22, 2018 1:30 AM  

Well, I think we just got the reason for the RR piece:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-22/draft-order-for-trump-would-crack-down-on-google-facebook?srnd=politics-vp

They want Trump to screw up and fire RR while it's not strategically useful to Trump. It also acts as multiple levels of cover if RR goes before he's done being useful. Rosenstein's wife is a CIA asset who has been mostly scrubbed from existence. RR clearly took a deal, a bit like Paul Ryan's, to play the double agent role. I get the feeling Ron has been having trouble walking the tight rope, so some of the Q stuff exists to leave enough wiggle room for people to operate.

Is LL talking? No clue! But it's quite valuable for the Insiders to think she might be. What's RR's actual role in this? The Q team is making him seem like he's still controlled by the Elites, but then why is stuff making it through? The Dem's letter was clearly angry about that -- and it was directed at RR -- but that doesn't mean he's flipped. Compromised people can be played most ways, and the Deep State desperately needs Trump to stop going in certain directions.

Enter the BOOM: Social Media transparency. Time for some good, old Trust Busting. Should be fun.

Blogger tublecane September 22, 2018 3:33 AM  

@58- Bane was the tool of an international cult-based terrorist conspiracy.

Blogger Solon September 22, 2018 4:35 AM  

Very simple: the Dems and elites are going down, they are in last-stand mode and trying anything to stop the pain train. Picture a wounded and cornered tiger trapped before the hunter.

They know that rosenstein is named in the FISA and is guaranteed to go down, so they're throwing him under the bus early to try to encourage their side to vote in the midterms.

If Trump fires RR, he gets painted as a tyrannical dictator, and is obstructing justice, which could start impeachment talks.

Roddy boy denied this story (allegedly, mind you), because obviously he doesn't like being thrown under the bus.

Rats from a sinking ship is what this is, simple.

Blogger BigHat FBW September 22, 2018 5:31 AM  

Tucker's rebuttal: https://youtu.be/WfVVX4ND8RE

Vox Day should say something decisively on Jeff Sessions. Coulter and Buchanan have, already.

Immigration hawks are dubious of Trump. Dittoheads are united by #MAGAhats.


Joe DiGenova is a Con-Artist fast-talk lawyer, like Hannity, and you morons love him. Addicted to pussyhats, phony outrage, daily drama, Shapiro, & FOX.

Morons.

Get f**k'd

Blogger BigHat FBW September 22, 2018 5:31 AM  

Tucker's rebuttal: https://youtu.be/WfVVX4ND8RE

Vox Day should say something decisively on Jeff Sessions. Coulter and Buchanan have, already.

Immigration hawks are dubious of Trump. Dittoheads are united by #MAGAhats.


Joe DiGenova is a Con-Artist fast-talk lawyer, like Hannity, and you morons love him. Addicted to pussyhats, phony outrage, daily drama, Shapiro, & FOX.

Morons.

Get f**k'd

Blogger Looking Glass September 22, 2018 6:31 AM  

Is that an influence bot or just an idiot?

Blogger jla September 22, 2018 6:51 AM  

BigHat FBW wrote:Tucker's rebuttal: https://youtu.be/WfVVX4ND8RE

Vox Day should say something decisively on Jeff Sessions. Coulter and Buchanan have, already.

Immigration hawks are dubious of Trump. Dittoheads are united by #MAGAhats.

Joe DiGenova is a Con-Artist fast-talk lawyer, like Hannity, and you morons love him. Addicted to pussyhats, phony outrage, daily drama, Shapiro, & FOX.

Morons.

Get f**k'd


I like cake.

Blogger Longtime Lurker September 22, 2018 7:54 AM  

Trump should call RR. "Hey Rod, no, I'm not going to fire you, but is Weissman the guy who just tried to toss you under the bus?"

Timing is everything. Firing RR now would be a tactical blunder, doing exactly what the Blue Church wants. The Blue Church is in desperation mode. Just look at the Kavanaugh appointment.

Feels like the culminating point. Stay Frosty.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 22, 2018 8:50 AM  

NeverTrump never changes. Trump does something. The globalist left freaks out, claims it's the end of the world, threatens mayhem to stop him. A NeverTrumper pops up to say the thing Trump is doing is actually playing right into the hands of the globalists. No one else can see it, not Trump, not the Right, not the Left -- or the Left is playing a crafty Br'er Rabbit game and pretending en masse to be upset to trick the Right for no reason. Only the NeverTrumper sees it all.

Blogger James Dixon September 22, 2018 9:40 AM  

> I read that Rosenstein signed the FISA warrant against Trump (renewal) in July of 2017, after the appointment of Muller.

I didn't check the dates, but my understanding is that he signed the last extension application, yes. I'm pretty sure that's in the redacted memo that's already available, though I'd have to go back and check to be sure. If so he's guilty of fraud on the court and perjury. As such, he can be fired for cause at any time by either Trump or Sessions.

> Is LL talking? No clue!

Who knows, but the mere suggestion has to be causing severe indigestion at 2446 Belmont Road and 15 Old House Lane.

> Enter the BOOM: Social Media transparency. Time for some good, old Trust Busting. Should be fun.

Breach of their own terms of service would be a good starting attack point. The FTC could easily start on that.

> Vox Day should say something decisively on Jeff Sessions.

You want something decisive? Sessions is our Attorney General. Let me know when that changes.

> Firing RR now would be a tactical blunder

Agreed. Let the public see the full memos and make the obvious connections. If the public reaction is what I expect he'll have more than enough cover for firing him.

Blogger Longtime Lurker September 22, 2018 10:04 AM  

@88: Rosenstein is currently the subject of a DOJ IG investigation into FISA Court fraud. He is officially recused from any further involvement in FISA Court matters.

Another thing: Whoever leaked those McCabe memos to the NYT, whether it be Mueller's team or McCabe, is extremely desperate. Until that NYT story, Congress did not know about the existence of such memos. Now it does.

The investigating committees in the House are now going to subpoena the memos. Doh!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 22, 2018 11:40 AM  

It's a guarantee of short residence here to tell Vox what to do.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz September 22, 2018 12:22 PM  

You have to remember that Trump was taking over the largest set of bureaucracies in the world. He needed people who understood how this system works. This necessitated hiring swamp creatures.

Also remember that Trump is not personally picking the appointees and is basically picking people from lists that are already vetted. Kavanaugh was probably the best person on the list, but the list wasn't very impressive. The list had a woman on it. The problem with nominating a woman is that the seat then becomes a permanent female seat, just like Clarence Thomas's seat, formerly Thurgood Marshall's seat is a black seat.
But to make matters worse, she had 2 adopted black kids. As if that couldn't get worse, it actually does. She adopted those kids during her pregnancies. She was basically cucking her own children by placing resource and attention needs onto these adopted kids. We are not out of the woods yet. If the Cucks in Congress cuck on the vote, she could end up getting appointed!

Blogger James Dixon September 22, 2018 12:29 PM  

> The problem with nominating a woman is that the seat then becomes a permanent female seat, just like Clarence Thomas's seat, formerly Thurgood Marshall's seat is a black seat.

Which is why she will be the pick to replace Ginsburg. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. There are no perfect candidates.

Blogger Jack Amok September 22, 2018 2:13 PM  

Which is why she will be the pick to replace Ginsburg. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. There are no perfect candidates.

The undead lobby will protest if the CryptKeeper's seat doesn't go to another ghoul.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz September 22, 2018 2:26 PM  

James Dixon wrote:>

Which is why she will be the pick to replace Ginsburg. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. There are no perfect candidates.


I fail to see the good in picking her. If RBG croaks during Trump's presidency, he will probably be forced into picking a woman, but it should be a good woman and not a woman who cucks her own children. We do not need such a virtual sniveling freak on the SCOTUS. If she does not care enough about her own children, she will not care about saving the nation or at least defending it.

Blogger James Dixon September 22, 2018 5:25 PM  

> ...but it should be a good woman and not a woman who cucks her own children.

My wife would never get confirmed. You have to face the fact that she might actually be the best option available.

Blogger Jack Amok September 22, 2018 9:47 PM  

My wife would never get confirmed. You have to face the fact that she might actually be the best option available.

OTOH, by the time whatever necromancy is keeping Ginsberg animated wears off, maybe Trump will have a more cooperative Senate.

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