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Friday, October 12, 2018

Bleeding Cool goes full SJW

This retraction and apology is more than a little amusing, in light of Mark Siefert's well-intentioned attempt to understand the other side and play peacemaker. But as I had originally warned him, SJWs cannot understand anything and one cannot reason with them. Delenda est.
An Apology Concerning Vox Day: We Made a Mistake
Posted by Kaitlyn Booth October 11, 2018

We at Bleeding Cool wish to issue an apology.

Bleeding Cool does not support bigotry of any kind, nor will we become a bullhorn for the bigots of the world to go off.

Today one of our writers made an error in judgement resulting in giving exposure to viewpoints that we abhor. We will do better, going forward, and that is a promise. The author admits that this was an extreme error of judgement that never should have been made and that other members of the Bleeding Cool writing staff were unaware of the contents of this article.

In a first step towards that end we are announcing, effective immediately, I am stepping into the role of Editor-in-Chief and will be implementing new review policies across the Bleeding Cool teams. Yesterday an extensive interview was run with publisher, author, and political figure Vox Day.

The intention of the interview was to investigate Day’s political and ideological views, and his operations as a publisher. But these intentions do not matter. The intent of the article and interview were poorly executed, and poorly communicated.

While the intentions of the author might have been one thing, the reality of the situation is another. Bleeding Cool would like to issue a sincere apology to everyone for the article in question.

We do not, in any way, agree with the ideology of Vox Day. We do not support divisiveness in the fan community, or in our culture at large. We do not support those that try to bring down others. We support diversity in all aspects of pop culture. We support everyone fighting the good fight against bigotry and only wish we could play a part in making not only the internet but the world a safer place for all individuals. We cannot apologize enough for the people we have offended. We cannot apologize enough for the breach of trust this has had with our readers and people within the community. We hope you’ll be willing to give us a chance to win back that trust in some capacity.

We will do better.
Read the original article here. Meanwhile, John Trent of Bounding Into Comics is celebrating his new monopoly on all the independent comics news.

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125 Comments:

Blogger CoolHand October 12, 2018 2:13 AM  

Got a stack of Avalon #2's today, every one of them sans dialog.

Them's going into the archives with the CG imprinted Gun Ghouls.

There's so much winning here that even the crap-ups are collectible.

Can we get a version of Alt-Hero Q that comes with a commemorative SJW bone?

I understand that the skulls and femurs are already spoken for, but I'd be happy with a humerus or tibia, especially if it were tastefully bronzed first.

Blogger doctrev October 12, 2018 2:15 AM  

I have to admit: Mark Siefert's case was well made. I offered it due consideration, given the sheer volume of effort he made in researching his subject and trying to refute the actual alt-right. As opposed to the Fakes and Controlled Opposition.

Unfortunately, Bleeding Cool's frantic airbrushing is all the rebuttal I need to every accusation of groupthink made against us. We ignore Jordan Peterson, but we don't need to demand he be deplatformed. Weak ideas discredit themselves: strong ideas refuse to be silenced.

Mild conservatism like RightWingNews must be silenced. "Conspiracy" sites like Infowars must be silenced. And you must be silenced. I suggest you don't apologize and don't resign, Mr. Seifert. Our foes, and they are -our- foes, attack weakness without mercy and recoil from strength.

Blogger R Webfoot October 12, 2018 2:15 AM  

Of course they couldn't stand it, it was one of the few public attempts to criticize you that focused on trying to actually criticize your actual positions.

Blogger Matt October 12, 2018 2:21 AM  

I want to puke on them

Blogger Dire Badger October 12, 2018 2:21 AM  

This 'apology' will not end well for bleeding cool.... No apology to SJW's ends well.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine October 12, 2018 2:46 AM  

Ahh, yeah, this is pretty much what I expected.

Seifert himself expressed it as a divergence of languages, but really it's a divergence of degree of adherence to reality, and the consequent evolution of catchwords and used-terms.

They bit his head off because he dared to think that one of their enemies might have a point or so. Just part of the behavioral control scheme.

Blogger Servant October 12, 2018 2:50 AM  

Kaitlyn Booth. Why does the secret police of the revolution continue to work for the revolution when the revolution always turns on them. She isn't near diverse enough to be headlining. White female? She'll be deposed right quick.

Blogger GammaCatch October 12, 2018 2:50 AM  

The more they attack Vox Day the more credible he becomes. Of course, that's not across the board. It's not ethereal. It's something you build. If it's intentional VD may ACTUALLY be an SDL. Because, as he and his company set up the arguments, those arguments are constantly being confirmed by the attackers. 1:1 it seems. They confirm what we know them to be by doing what is said of them shortly as it is said or, even, demonstrated elsewhere.

-Call out unusual Amazon activity and censorship.
--They do exactly that.

-Call out corrupt interview practices
--They follow through with them

-No Cucking? No Apologies to the SJW mob? Never do that?
--They do exactly that.

All in such a short time from Comics to Distributors to JBP.



These fools could build VD and co into an avalanche by accident.

We may end up seeing the delivery of a solid Culture War Punch to the Leftist's Faces from all this. I swear Hollywood etc is prime for disaster, and where there is a vacuum...

Blogger Steve Mackelprang October 12, 2018 2:53 AM  

bleeding alright,, but not bleeding cool

Blogger pdwalker October 12, 2018 3:04 AM  

J.H.C.!

These leftists would be right at home during a Chinese, cultural revolutionary period, struggle session.

Blogger Looking Glass October 12, 2018 3:05 AM  

Ah, poor Mark, he made the mistake of attempting "Journalism" and nearly broke out of his NPC scripting. But, alas, the swarm topped the walls.

Does this count as 2 victories in 24 hours? Bleeding Cool seems to have committed seppuku from the very presence of the Dark Lord, and it carried all the way over to IndieGoGo. It'll be fun to see what comes of it, but it seems to a successful incursion into territory that isn't friendly. Mark, though, just got a lesson in reality. Mark, if you see this, this is exactly why Trump will win reelection.

Blogger Steampunk Koala October 12, 2018 3:06 AM  

I just finished reading it. Taking it down goes to show that SJWs have no capacity for information whatsoever. It's kind of sad to see how far behind some people are still, who think anything more complex or nuanced than DESTROYING with ONE TWEET would garner anything but screeching and probably getting fired. They really, truly cannot comprehend that SJWs are little better than animals in human form, devoid of reason but able to speak.

Is this the illness of the moderate, looking at the child in their arms and the angry dog chewing on their leg, and concluding that the dog is just as valid as the child and that some accord must be found so they may bound together through the grass as equals, no matter how viciously the dog attacks the child?

Congratulations to Bounding into Comics for the wide open field though.

Blogger manisha October 12, 2018 3:24 AM  

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Blogger Pseudotsuga October 12, 2018 3:25 AM  

What a fargin' eejit-- he can't see that the very things he condemns below apply to the people he is kissing up....err, apologizing to:

"We do not support divisiveness in the fan community, or in our culture at large. We do nupport those that try to bring down others. We support diversity in all aspects of pop culture. We support everyone fighting the good fight against bigotry and only wish we could play a part in making not only the internet but the world a safer place for all individuals. "
Clearly, this guy is next on the leftist Cannabilism menu...

Blogger Bultz October 12, 2018 3:50 AM  

Something amused me about the recent attacks on white women voters, sooner or later SJW's will have reduced their own platform to nothing. Maybe one day places like Bleeding cool will call their bluff as they figure out these people do not keep them in business

Blogger Don't Call Me Len October 12, 2018 4:11 AM  

No matter how many times it happens, I'm still amazed by the sheer extraordinary infantilism that SJWs display. They can't handle even the idea of someone disagreeing with them.

Blogger Sherwood family October 12, 2018 4:17 AM  

Wow. Read the original interview yesterday. The fact that they took it down and now Indiegogo is all fouled up doesn't look like coordinated action at all. No, sir. And what of Seifert? All his work on that just went down the drain. SJWs are progressive caricatures and the guys at Bleeding Cool are apparently caricatures of caricatures.

Blogger Lurker October 12, 2018 4:32 AM  

"We do not support divisiveness in the fan community, or in our culture at large."

Typical HR speak pablum. Did they fight with their brothers and sisters at home? Divisiveness is a part of life. Good thing their immune system is "divisive" or they would be dead.

"The intention of the interview was to investigate Day’s political and ideological views..."

Unh hunh, sure.


LefTARDS are cruel like their father satan. Indian givers to an indian!? It's obvious lefTARDS would take even the res away.

"We cannot apologize enough for the people we have offended."

Right, carry on then with your exercise in futility.

"We cannot apologize enough for the breach of trust this has had with our readers and people within the community. We hope you’ll be willing to give us a chance to win back that trust in some capacity."

More idiocy/hypocrisy. Traitors talking about trust. Those clowns should get a job at the UN, that organization that puts murderous dictators in charge of human rights. They would fit right in.






Blogger Lurker October 12, 2018 4:38 AM  

"I'm still amazed by the sheer extraordinary infantilism that SJWs display."

What amazes me is why anybody would take such idiots seriously. It's like the Frog and the Scorpion story on an infinite loop.

Blogger Steve October 12, 2018 4:46 AM  

Bleeding from her wherever.

Blogger Resident Moron™ October 12, 2018 5:07 AM  

If you’re going to charge the parents of university students tens of thousands of dollars per year for oppression entitlement studies degrees then you’re obligated on some level to pretend to treat these subjects seriously.

Even though everyone knows they’re bullshit.

Blogger Basta Con La Droga October 12, 2018 5:32 AM  

Sorry about the OT. I was going through a bunch of booktube videos and I found myself wondering, are there booktubers who are not sjws? I mean, it's beyond me. They're all a bunch of virtue-signaling peeps bragging about diversity, gay characters, etc. One of them, whose name I won't bother to mention, went on a tirade complaining about a YA book being too "heterosexual". At which I had to intervene on the comment section, asking her what was so wrong with being heterosexual. Guess what? My comment got deleted. So, anyway, back to my question: any NORMAL booktubers out there? Thank you.

Blogger Eric I. Gatera. October 12, 2018 5:32 AM  

Thank God, you do back-up everything! :)

Blogger Nate73 October 12, 2018 5:40 AM  

They literally memory-holed the original article? Is the author going to be fired?

Blogger Attila is my bro October 12, 2018 5:51 AM  

Sheesh... This interviewer... Anyone else get the sense that he talks really fast with a squeaky, lispy voice? And those comments inserted between the interview - is there a category for ultra-mega-gamma?

Blogger Damaris Tighe October 12, 2018 5:52 AM  

''... diversity not divisiveness.''

hilarious.

Blogger Damaris Tighe October 12, 2018 5:54 AM  

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Blogger Damaris Tighe October 12, 2018 5:55 AM  

Nate73 wrote:They literally memory-holed the original article? Is the author going to be fired?

nate. people doing good are likely to tear him to pieces.

Blogger OGRE October 12, 2018 6:06 AM  

sad.

Blogger SciVo October 12, 2018 6:09 AM  

Bultz wrote:Something amused me about the recent attacks on white women voters, sooner or later SJW's will have reduced their own platform to nothing.

They don't care. They're as sane, sensible, and forward-thinking as the average murder/suicide. I don't know if you noticed, but in that deranged rant in the NYT, the greatest sin of white women is making white babies. It was a direct negation of Point #14.

So, will Mr. Siefert learn from this? Social Justice is *literally* a thought-control cult. That is neither metaphor nor hyperbole.

Blogger Uncle John's Band October 12, 2018 6:16 AM  

The interview reaffirmed that the SJW's base world view places language/feelings over reality. It's the only way to dream of some "synthesis" coexistence. That he conducted himself with sincerity suggests he's the one seeking the synthesis between the lunatic world he inhabits and his own intellectual curiosity. Many libertarians and "socially liberal" conservatives reach this point on their way to reality. Ending his critical interjections with comments about reading more can't make the loons happy. If he actually is honest, this reaction ought to help with the cognitive dissonance.

One thing that popped out in the intro was the idea of learning from the successes of the Alt-Right. Triggering a shrieking toxic mob with a well-researched good-faith article is lesson one.

Blogger James Dixon October 12, 2018 6:21 AM  

> I suggest you don't apologize and don't resign, Mr. Seifert.

The "apology" states he already has. But then, SJW's always lie.

> bleeding alright,, but not bleeding cool

They never were. Their site is atrocious.

> manisha

Spammers should die. Slowly, in extreme agony.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine October 12, 2018 6:31 AM  

"Social Justice is *literally* a thought-control cult."

More thought-negation and emotional/behavioral control.

Blogger Longtime Lurker October 12, 2018 6:36 AM  

The people who run Bleeding Cool just demonstrated that they can be pushed around at will. By SJWs. And so they will be. Repeatedly. Until they learn to properly obey their masters.

Bleeding Fools all the way down.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 12, 2018 6:37 AM  

I retract my apology to Bleeding Cool.

Bleeding Cool, really is just a fanboi site that is going to do nothing but fellate the SJWs that are running the comics industry into the ground.

Blogger SciVo October 12, 2018 6:37 AM  

SciVo wrote:I don't know if you noticed, but in that deranged rant in the NYT, the greatest sin of white women is making white babies. It was a direct negation of Point #14.

Here's a link for anyone that missed it (goes to American Greatness), h/t Instapundit: Dems’ Midterm Message: White Women Are Rape Apologists. Money quote: "...support the patriarchy by marrying within their racial group, reproducing whiteness..."

The Patriarchy is feminism's bogeyman. Supporting it is the equivalent of Satan worship to them, so making a white baby is an obscene, perverse sacrament to evil, like how normal people see ritual child sacrifice.

Blogger basementhomebrewer October 12, 2018 6:38 AM  

Bultz wrote:Something amused me about the recent attacks on white women voters, sooner or later SJW's will have reduced their own platform to nothing. Maybe one day places like Bleeding cool will call their bluff as they figure out these people do not keep them in business

I think they are the only thing keeping them in business. Rich Johnston made this bed. He did everything he could to run off any reader that wasn't an SJW about a year ago. Their publication is completely dependent on SJW readers now. I was very surprised they ran the original article, it was a poke in the eye to the only readers they had left. After publication they only had a couple options.

Come swinging at the SJWs while trying to establish some sort of new message of neutrality/middle ground and hope to pull the cucks, squishy middle and a small portion of the right back into their readership.

Or they could do what they did and grovel to the SJW mob and hope to survive for a little while longer until they fail to notice the change in the narrative next time.

Blogger Daniel October 12, 2018 6:40 AM  

The Cultural Revolution will be Webified.

Blogger Nym Coy October 12, 2018 6:46 AM  

Oh the unintentional irony of the apology. Indeed SJWs always project.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 12, 2018 6:47 AM  

SciVo wrote:Bultz wrote:Something amused me about the recent attacks on white women voters, sooner or later SJW's will have reduced their own platform to nothing.

They don't care. They're as sane, sensible, and forward-thinking as the average murder/suicide. I don't know if you noticed, but in that deranged rant in the NYT, the greatest sin of white women is making white babies. It was a direct negation of Point #14.

So, will Mr. Siefert learn from this? Social Justice is *literally* a thought-control cult. That is neither metaphor nor hyperbole.


The retraction says he apologized. Which means that he read SJWs Always Lie but learned absolutely nothing from it.

Although if he's lucky this will only result in yet another pointless siege of Vox and not himself.

Blogger Miguel October 12, 2018 6:47 AM  

"Bleeding Cool does not support bigotry of any kind"

This was hilarious in deed.

Blogger gnossoss October 12, 2018 6:51 AM  

It really was a good interview -- Vox learned something about himself, and now Mark Seifert learned something about himself.

Turns out our enemies were exactly who we thought they were, Mr. Seifert. And now they're your enemies too. Our enemies are the enemies of truth.

If you follow the truth where it leads even a little bit, then you lack total commitment to The Narrative, and are thus the enemy just as much as Vox is.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 October 12, 2018 6:56 AM  

Asserting the truth about racial and sexual differences is bigotry.
Defending Western culture is bigotry.

Replacement Racism and sexism against Whites and men is cool, hip, and progressive.
Severely damaging Western Civilization with a 3rd world population explosion is cool, hip, and progressive.

I'm old enough to remember the doublespeak from communist Eastern Europe and now we're getting this crap full-blast from cultural marxist
America.

Pathetic!

Blogger Daniel October 12, 2018 7:02 AM  

So funny that Siefert was so concerned about Vox's "no mercy" comment, when the mercilessness he was about to suffer was Kaitlyn's. RIP Mark, but you get some points for picking that hill to die on.

Blogger GithYankee October 12, 2018 7:04 AM  

The left has found their killer app, and it is credit card processing.

just try to run a business on p.o. boxes and cash concealed in envelopes.
I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Gab is the only alt tech up and running, and Stripe has recently given them a strike after being Bolsonaro's only social media platform.
Its days are numbered.
Amazon is emerging as our champion, and that seems a tenuous lifeline indeed.
There is one prominent person in charge of a major superpower who could end all of this with an executive order, but that hasn't happened yet, nor does it seem likely to since his "department of justice" is busy arresting innocent white nationalists, and allowing antifa to roam free and direct traffic in major American cities, with police looking on in approval.


Blogger justthinkin October 12, 2018 7:14 AM  

"I expect a fair number of SJWs will be outraged by the fact that Bleeding Cool acknowledged my existence at all, and when they did, failed to devote the entire interview to angrily denouncing NAZICOMICSHATE, but then, birds will fly and fish will swim too.'

Blogger The Rev October 12, 2018 7:36 AM  

Original article link loads, then redirects for me. Anyone else getting this problem?

Blogger McChuck October 12, 2018 7:44 AM  

"Bleeding Cool does not support bigotry of any kind, nor will we become a bullhorn for the bigots of the world to go off." So we will now prove our idealogical purity by being actively, loudly, and proudly bigoted towards someone who opposes the narrative.

Say it isn't so!

This sort of stuff doesn't need to be pointed out to us. It needs to be publicized for the wavering middle who are leaning right. Everybody needs a -pill, and that -pill is different for each person.

Blogger Lurker October 12, 2018 7:47 AM  

"Bleeding Cool does not support bigotry of any kind..."

… unless they're NOT an SJW then its your duty to be the biggest bigot/hypocrite you can possibly be and you must persecute them or you will be expelled or worse from the cult."

Yeah they left that part out.

Blogger Lurker October 12, 2018 7:54 AM  

"… unless they're NOT an SJW then its your duty to be the biggest bigot/hypocrite you can possibly be and you must persecute them or you will be expelled or worse from the cult."

Wait, doesn't that sound like the Mooselimb doctrine of Taqiyya? Birds of a feather and all.

Blogger Tee Stoney October 12, 2018 7:55 AM  

"Tolerance", except for people who disagree with us. "Inclusiveness", except for those who don't accept our world view. "Diversity", for everyone we approve of.

Orwell is laughing his ass off.

Blogger Silent Draco October 12, 2018 8:04 AM  

That 'apology' can be summarized from history:

"Tovarish, NEVER be first one to stop Clapping for Our Great Leader, Stalin."

-- NKVD, oops, KGB

Blogger Alex October 12, 2018 8:11 AM  

Pathetic! And it proves Vox’s point that Siefert so vociferously denied.

Too bad. Siefert gave an intelligent, well-thought-out and entertaining interview that made you think. Maybe that’s why it had to be memory holed.

Blogger Resident Moron™ October 12, 2018 8:12 AM  

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Blogger Werekoala1066 October 12, 2018 8:15 AM  

That is the most pathetic, grovelling piece of flup I think I've ever read. I can almost see the SJW "handlers" just off screen with their truncheons as this statement is read into the camera in a shaky voice.

Blogger Jonathon Davies October 12, 2018 8:16 AM  

They never learn.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 12, 2018 8:17 AM  

The words freedom, tolerance, equality and love are ours for the taking these days.

The Left has given up on them for the image of a Pantifa goon in a mask with a steel baton raised up ready to strike.

Blogger Gregory the Great October 12, 2018 8:25 AM  

retch, heartburn, puke...

Blogger InformationMerchant October 12, 2018 8:26 AM  

Well, we warned him.

He violated the narrative.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”


The left isn't allowed to ask a question, read a book about the answer and then make the interview into a quasi-debate after the fact, with a massive ratio of left winger to right winger.

Now, I liked the interview and I also liked the debates Vox had with on heatstreet that were actually debates, so although the intention wasn't pro Vox it was a far better attempt than a mainstream media hitpiece.

The problem true believers and progressives of any kind have is their side won't allow that.

The low IQ SJWs set the rules; the other SJWs, other progressives and anyone pretending to be one of them have to follow those rules. Progressive sites will always fold.

No matter how wrong they think we are, we are free, they are not. Some of them clearly don't like their chains.


(Sure, relatively free specifically regarding thoughts, words and actions and only regarding the non left policing itself. The left obviously will take away any freedom of ours that they can, with the exception of sexual freedom which is the only freedom they care about, and even then we're probably bigots if we won't date all the genders, races, body sizes and shades of ugly. But this disclaimer distracts from the point I was trying to make.)

Blogger Sim1776 October 12, 2018 8:28 AM  

Reminds me of the Kavanaugh protestor who was smeared in her own monthly secretions.

Blogger mushroom October 12, 2018 8:28 AM  

Remember: Doing right ain't got no end. Any SJW who is less than rabid will be subject to condemnation along with normal people like me.

Blogger xavier October 12, 2018 8:31 AM  

Wow. So the fanatics had a mental catatonic fit because Seifert breach a small hole. I thought the interview was good and found both sides not only respectfull to each other but sincerely engaged in an exchange of ideas. The amount of work and good faith Seifert put in is worthy of respect.
And Vox reciprocated.
I laughed how a woman took over the censor in chief job and will immediately implement the trust and civility protocols fortified by better governance and decision making.

xavier

Blogger Arthur Tintagel October 12, 2018 8:34 AM  

the best part of that article is the comments.

"tolerance of intolerance is the antithesis of tolerance"

ahaha SJWs always project, and moderates always lose.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma October 12, 2018 8:36 AM  

Who is the boss of these people? Who is paying them?

I am just terribly offended and totally violated by Kaitlyn Booth and her masters. Kaitlyn's acts of oppression/suppression of others for their deeply held religio-socio-economic beliefs is disgusting intolerance, and her lack of inclusivity must not be allowed to exist in the happy huggy one love welcoming world we are fighting to create because real life is simply too harsh and scary for idiotic weaklings like her.

Blogger Gregory the Great October 12, 2018 8:36 AM  

When I was young I used to work as a journalist for the local paper. On one occasion I interviewed a theatre director about his upcoming new production. A year later I met him somewhere, and he said: "Thank you for what you wrote about me." I said: "No big deal, I just wrote what you told me." He said: "But that is so rare!"

Blogger Lurker October 12, 2018 8:39 AM  

The Scorpion

The Gandhi Game



Blogger InformationMerchant October 12, 2018 8:47 AM  

@40 We already knew he didn't take in everything. A couple of his questions were answered in the book yet he spent paragraphs doing things that made no sense if he could recall the information properly. Obviously the anecdotes and general message of the book were lost of him, but I'll credit any progressive that reads it and it'll do him some good.

The problem he had with that book is, if you're riding a tiger, you really don't want to read about the 10 worst tiger maulings and how to avoid coming into contact with tigers.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 12, 2018 9:15 AM  

Poor old Mark.

His timing couldn't have been worse.

They are peak rabid at the moment due to the Kavanaugh Konfirmation.

Special K seems to be a very bad drug for them. They just can't shake their need for it and it's destroying them before our eyes.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 12, 2018 9:17 AM  

I would just like to point out that Bleeding Cool couldn't possibly go full SJW, because founder Rich Johnston and Managing Editor Mark Seifert are "associated with" Vox Day. Clearly we are just being paranoid and seeing SJWism where it isn't really.

Blogger Nate October 12, 2018 9:23 AM  

anyone else having a hard time getting the apology to load?

Blogger OGRE October 12, 2018 9:25 AM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:They are peak rabid at the moment due to the Kavanaugh Konfirmation.

Special K seems to be a very bad drug for them. They just can't shake their need for it and it's destroying them before our eyes.


Its a beautiful thing to see.

I'm pretty convinced that the whole Taylor Swift thing was timed to coverup a large number of new Rep and Dem to Rep registrations as a result of the Kavanaugh affair. Its one desperate play after another just to keep the Blue Wave narrative going. But with every move they just make themselves look more insane, and with the way Trump plays the media for fools it becomes much harder for the normies to not see the absurdity of the far left in action.

Blogger wreckage October 12, 2018 9:36 AM  

It's a damn shame. I thought he engaged with what Vox had to say honestly and rigorously. I like that, because while I admire Vox's smarts, his insights, and his range, I really think he's wildly off the mark in a lot of ways, right down to dangerously wrong in some. But nobody seems to get over their case of the vapours enough to actually, rigorously, approach the ideas or even the FIELD of the ideas.

What we're left with here is this panic, this "Vox is in there! Forget anyone who's left, they are lost, and worse than lost! Nail the doors shut and burn it down! Stop your ears to the screaming of your erstwhile comrades, yes, but more so to the words of madness he speaks! None may hear him and remain clean!"

Which just creates and perpetuates the myth of Vox as not merely a smart guy, but an intellect so implacable, so inhuman in scope, that mere exposure to it renders you helpless. It's like he's the gnosis to Count Dracula's physis.

Small wonder so many of them have the hots for him. They've turned him into a sexy evil vampire in their own minds.

Blogger Avalanche October 12, 2018 9:36 AM  

The author admits that this was an extreme error of judgement that never should have been made

So, how many hours did Seifert have to stand on the stage "doing the airplane." before he finally broke and admitted he was a horrible evil thought criminal?
(https://www.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2017/04/02/Clipboard011000QWE888sqq00a0-700x420.png)

If you miss the allusion, go research the Cultural Revolution and catch up! It's coming (already started?) here, you'd best be aware!

Blogger mike mike October 12, 2018 9:38 AM  

I thought Bleeding Cool was well known to be full SJW long before this incident.

Blogger Avalanche October 12, 2018 9:39 AM  

Maybe send Siefert an autographed copy of SJWADD? Might be a collectible in future, so he can sell it to eat?

Blogger Nate October 12, 2018 9:41 AM  

so... here's some of the bio of the author of the apology:

"Kaitlyn is a film nerd, a comic nerd, an all around nerd that has a love for female superheroes and independent cinema. When she isn't watching movies Kaitlyn loves fiction writing and watching political satire. "

Note... she loves FEMALE superheros. oh... and political satire.

This one is so SJW she can't not tell you she's SJW... even when she doesn't mean to tell you she's SJW.

Blogger Avalanche October 12, 2018 9:49 AM  

@55 "just off screen with their truncheons as this statement is read into the camera in a shaky voice."

Anyone counting eye-blinks? Who knows Morse code?

Blogger Matthew McDaniel October 12, 2018 9:50 AM  

“We’re getting the band back together!”

Just give me a heads up when the “Comicsgate Paris” party goes down. I like to purchase airfare early.

Blogger Avalanche October 12, 2018 9:54 AM  

@72 Which just creates and perpetuates the myth of Vox as not merely a smart guy, but an intellect so implacable, so inhuman in scope, that mere exposure to it renders you helpless.

Myth? As in mythical? What's mythical about this? Do we not see it in action regularly?

Blogger bob kuk mando ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) October 12, 2018 9:57 AM  


filmic OT:
Gosnell opens today.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Kermit_Gosnell#Movie

Blogger Salt October 12, 2018 9:58 AM  

Bleeding Cool? Bleeding? Ah, just wait...

Blogger Arthur Isaac October 12, 2018 10:07 AM  

Diversity but not divisiveness? Peel me a grape?

Blogger Longtime Lurker October 12, 2018 10:07 AM  

@68: "They are peak rabid at the moment due to the Kavanaugh Konfirmation."

Yes they are. And this peak SJW moment couldn't come at worse time with the election three weeks out. The Demo-media complex is now desperately gaslighting the country: "Repeat after me - There is no left-wing mob. There is no left-wing mob. There is no . . . "

The media would rather not have to talk about this mess if it didn't have to, but it does, because Trump. And because the Republicans have sufficient B-roll to sustain the left-wing mob narrative all the way to November 6.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 12, 2018 10:08 AM  

Is the author going to be fired?

If they could get away with it, they'd put him up against a wall right after he signs his confession and apology, as their comrades throughout history have always done when they held power. As they openly plan to do in this country the next time they win the necessary elections. If he's only fired, he should consider himself lucky.

Blogger Brad Matthews October 12, 2018 10:10 AM  

I challenge anyone to write that letter as a better parody. Bleeding Vagina.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 12, 2018 10:23 AM  

Kaitlyn

Wait a sec....has anyone checked for preferred pronouns?

So the fanatics had a mental catatonic fit because Seifert breach a small hole.

Look at Kanye West. One lone famous black entertainer has a photo-op/meeting with Trump. He's known for being kinda nutty, so you wouldn't think many people would be hanging on his political opinions. He's not Jesse Jackson or someone like that. But the media has a total conniption, calling him a word you haven't been allowed to say in public for years and generally making asses of themselves to try to convince people not to look over there.

All over one rapper with a different take, or in this case, one interview with someone on the other side. That's how important it is for them to prevent any cracks in the wall separating allowed ideas from disallowed. They have to sacrifice anything to save it, because without that wall they don't stand a chance.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz October 12, 2018 10:33 AM  

Vox was right! Never ever talk to the media under any circumstances.
Even if they don't do a complete hit piece, the unwanted media causes its own problems.
Of course, AH/DL will eventually be too big to ignore, but its current size and funding needs make it vulnerable to SJW attacks. I don't think the appearance of this article and the cancellation of Q is a coincidence.

Blogger The Rev October 12, 2018 10:49 AM  

Okay, got the link to work. Mark did his homework and delivered a great interview. Let's hope he keeps reading until that epiphany moment hits. It's hard to go deep into the truth without converting to it.

Blogger Amy K. October 12, 2018 10:52 AM  

Small wonder so many of them have the hots for him. They've turned him into a sexy evil vampire in their own minds.

I'm going to be watching the next rare Daystream very carefully to see if he glitters.

Blogger Janus October 12, 2018 11:09 AM  

Comments disabled on the apology page.

What a shock.

Blogger InformationMerchant October 12, 2018 11:14 AM  

Tangentially related: Molyneux has been carefully ignoring Faith Goldy's run for mayor even when Southern, Loomer, Adams and some anti Islamic terror muslims were mentioning her. He ignored her being deplatformed and banned from a ton of stuff too.

But he has finally remembered his old friend. Maybe the Peterson thing woke him up.

Blogger James Dixon October 12, 2018 11:14 AM  

> Too bad. Siefert gave an intelligent, well-thought-out and entertaining interview that made you think. Maybe that’s why it had to be memory holed.

Intelligent, but misinformed. Well thought out until it hit a thought that it considered beyond the pale. Entertaining? Not really.

He at least allowed Vox to answer questions uninterrupted, and gave the answers without undue editing. Undue editorializing, yes, but not editing. The subject of an interview isn't supposed to be the interviewer.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz October 12, 2018 11:19 AM  

Nate wrote:so... here's some of the bio of the author of the apology:

That was a total powerplay! She took over as editor-in-chief in order to placate the SJW complaints.
This guy only put months of work into this article, but nobody knew about it....
This was engineered. As bad as BC already was, it's going to be worse!

Blogger InformationMerchant October 12, 2018 11:24 AM  

Well, that surprised no one. SJWs have read or watched Vox's explanation of the Hugos. He straight up tells them that the most insane SJWs will go into a frenzy and if they can't attack him will eat the less insane leftists.

Blogger James Dixon October 12, 2018 11:25 AM  

> I said: "No big deal, I just wrote what you told me." He said: "But that is so rare!"

Exactly. See above.

> They are peak rabid at the moment due to the Kavanaugh Konfirmation.

Quoting BTO, you ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait till their blue wave becomes a red tide.

> Which just creates and perpetuates the myth of Vox as not merely a smart guy, but an intellect so implacable, so inhuman in scope, that mere exposure to it renders you helpless.

Well, that's the same way they treat Rush, and he's no Vox, so it's not surprising.

In that regard, I was reading a transcript from Rush yesterday and even he's effecting saying we're headed for war, without actually coming out and saying so. See https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/10/09/kavanaugh-swearing-in-ceremony-demonstrated-donald-trumps-irreplaceable-value/

Blogger Tupla-J October 12, 2018 11:32 AM  

Another case of racist white woman deplatforming a man of color.

When will the hate end? I guess I'll have to write an email if the brass there support the horrendous racial politics and veritable holocaust of colored publishers.

Blogger Lurker October 12, 2018 11:38 AM  

"That's how important it is for them to prevent any cracks in the wall separating allowed ideas from disallowed. They have to sacrifice anything to save it, because without that wall they don't stand a chance."

*Sigh* So predictable, it's always the same with lefTARDS. "Tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan 40th President of the United States

Blogger Avalanche October 12, 2018 11:42 AM  

@86 "They have to sacrifice anything to save it, because without that wall they don't stand a chance."

Uh, build the wall?

Blogger Lurker October 12, 2018 11:55 AM  

OT - Best president ever...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

All this winning in just 2 YEARS!!!

Blogger Warunicorn October 12, 2018 12:08 PM  

Lord, that mewling, groveling, pathetic attempt at an apology to people with no sense of morality to begin with...I dry-heaved.

Arthur Tintagel wrote:the best part of that article is the comments.

"tolerance of intolerance is the antithesis of tolerance"

ahaha SJWs always project, and moderates always lose.


Words escape me. Being that stupid as that comment was should really be fatal. It's like they took "1984" and used it as an instruction manual.

Blogger RobertT October 12, 2018 12:29 PM  

You scared the hell out of them. Had it been easier to twist your words and make fun of you, this wouldn't have happened.

Blogger Taqiyyotomist October 12, 2018 12:39 PM  

I pray that Mr. Siefert climbs over the wall and joins the sane people.

Kansas wrote this, on their album "Leftoverture", just before 3/4 of the band became Christians, and formed another band called A.D., and it is topical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRJ5U49sJbI

That's right, Kansas became a Christian rock band. Their biggest hit, "Dust in the Wind" makes sense only from a Christian perspective. We are all nothing but dust in the wind, without Christ.

Come over the wall, Mr. Siefert. The grass is actually greener.

Blogger Lance E October 12, 2018 12:54 PM  

mike mike wrote:I thought Bleeding Cool was well known to be full SJW long before this incident.

Exactly. I don't know why people are saying "they caved to SJWs". They're run by SJWs.


InformationMerchant wrote:Tangentially related: Molyneux has been carefully ignoring Faith Goldy's run for mayor

Molyneux has a long-standing policy of staying out of democratic politics. He's said on numerous occasions that he broke his rule for Trump and the 2016 election exclusively. Have you noticed him endorse anyone else for any political position, for any reason?

Blogger Joseph Maroney October 12, 2018 1:02 PM  

"This 'apology' will not end well for bleeding cool.... No apology to SJW's ends well."

It's not an apology, it's a purging. One of the SJWs there "leveled up" by taking out a soft target.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 12, 2018 1:10 PM  

All this winning in just 2 YEARS!!!

NBC and some other outlet have actually run headlines recently suggesting that Americans might be tired of Trump winning so much.

Blogger Doktor Jeep October 12, 2018 1:13 PM  

Ever see an apology disguised as smacktalk?

Blogger Dirk Manly October 12, 2018 2:22 PM  

Via the "Contact us" form:

Subject: Vox Day interview.


Running away from soyboys.
You are nothing but cowards.

I will never visit your site ever again. Your domain will now be redirected to 127.0.0.1 in my hosts file.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 12, 2018 3:30 PM  

@65

"When I was young I used to work as a journalist for the local paper. On one occasion I interviewed a theatre director about his upcoming new production. A year later I met him somewhere, and he said: "Thank you for what you wrote about me." I said: "No big deal, I just wrote what you told me." He said: "But that is so rare!"

That's a lie.
You were conclusively an honest REPORTER, not some lying journalist scum.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 12, 2018 4:18 PM  

@105

"NBC and some other outlet have actually run headlines recently suggesting that Americans might be tired of Trump winning so much."


Agree in amplify (doing it wrong edition)

Blogger Johnny Reb October 12, 2018 4:25 PM  

THIS.

I was a young journelst once. I saw it, even the good ones get hamstrung by editors and publishers. Sometimes it's malicious sometimes they're just idiots. Its amazing how they can push a narrative though. So Kaitlyn stepped in to fix his, according to them, screwed up narrative? Did somebody we all know say something like "women ruin everything" or some such? Ever lit a top down fire? Well here you go!

Blogger Dirk Manly October 12, 2018 4:28 PM  

The left just LOVE to talk about "dumpster fires"... strangely enough, they never notice how anything they run is exactly that.

Blogger bobby October 12, 2018 4:29 PM  

Maybe I missed this somewhere, but did anyone keep a copy of the interview anywhere?

I think it'd be a fun one to share around.

Blogger Edgar Abbey October 12, 2018 4:54 PM  

bobby,

The entire article is available at a link at the bottom of Vox's post above.

I think it would be interesting if someone tweeted out the entire article 140 characters at a time as one giant thread on Twitter.

Blogger InformationMerchant October 12, 2018 5:14 PM  

@103

I didn't even mean an endorsement, retweeting her storming the stage would've been nice, even if he didn't want to delve too deep.

As far as endorsements for people other than Trump:

2016 nationalism Brexit (not a person, but a yes/no), Le Pen. I think there were others. I don't remember which countries had elections but I think the Netherlands got a "truth about" as did somewhere else, I think.

Roy Moore, he made several videos about the republicans cucking and was clearly angry at them.

He's had rep King on his show, though didn't endorse him, just had an interview about immigration. He's been very supportive of right wing politics without specifically naming people. If he's playing cheerleader for a party without naming people, that may not be endorsing a particular candidate but it's not staying out of it.

Meanwhile, in Canada, Goldy had a media blackout, her ads were cancelled and her money was returned, the mayor won't share a debate stand with her, so she's not invited to debates and they even cancelled one due to the law about letting everyone debate (there are a lot of candidates though, so you can argue about whether that'd be cancelled anyway).

As Stef lives in Canada, it didn't seem unreasonable to point out that Faith was running. He didn't even have to endorse her.


As I said, he was ignoring her before she decided to run but has fixed this now. So I don't have a complaint with him anymore.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 12, 2018 5:31 PM  

That would be hilarious. But I don't have the time.

Blogger HalibetLector October 12, 2018 6:34 PM  

InformationMerchant wrote:@40 We already knew he didn't take in everything. A couple of his questions were answered in the book yet he spent paragraphs doing things that made no sense if he could recall the information properly. Obviously the anecdotes and general message of the book were lost of him, but I'll credit any progressive that reads it and it'll do him some good.

The problem he had with that book is, if you're riding a tiger, you really don't want to read about the 10 worst tiger maulings and how to avoid coming into contact with tigers.


It's more fundamental than that.

Most people are incapable of processing factual information. They need to experience things for themselves firsthand before they'll change their mind.

Or, for the rhetorically minded: My father used to make me watch him do house repairs. He said it was so I would know how to repair my own house when I bought one. Guess how much of it I remember how to do? None. Nada. Zilch. Watching somebody else do something is not the same as putting hammer to nail yourself. There is no replacement for first hand experience.

Blogger bobby October 12, 2018 6:49 PM  

I figured I missed it somewhere. Thanks, EA.

Think I'll share it with some folks.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 12, 2018 6:57 PM  

The NPCs will not allow random quest fulfillment at BC

Blogger James Dixon October 12, 2018 8:33 PM  

> Watching somebody else do something is not the same as putting hammer to nail yourself.

In my experience, almost everyone learns by doing, not by watching. There may be exceptions, but they seem to be vary rare.

Blogger CashBailey October 12, 2018 8:55 PM  

Brian Keene is a big fan of Bleeding Cool.

Why am I not surprised?

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Blogger wreckage October 13, 2018 4:46 AM  

You CAN learn by watching, if your skill-set already overlaps somewhat.

Blogger Gregory the Great October 13, 2018 5:41 AM  

Vox, maybe you should change your advice and rules re giving interviews: Always give them interviews, it cannot damage you a lot, but the aftermath will do a lot of damage to the other side. Or to put it differently: These interviews and their aftermath tell people more about them than about you.

Blogger InformationMerchant October 13, 2018 7:10 AM  

Despite what they say, it wasn't an interview that would be a problem for them, it's not using the usual template.

As Vox only got in touch with them to get them to retract defamation, they can't do the "acceptable" interview to SJWs because the UK actually has libel laws that can't be hand waved.

If he gave an American company an interview, it'd just end up in a standard hitpiece and the SJWs are fine with those. I suspect they like them very much, because they get to feel morally superior to the horrible nazi/kkk/rapist.

Blogger Up from the pond October 13, 2018 11:16 AM  

Will getting slapped down teach Seifert anything about the totalitarian nature of SJWs?

Nope. Even now he's probably bowing, scraping, groveling, and all the time thinking: "I offended my masters!" Some people are just low quality.

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