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Wednesday, October 31, 2018

Darkstream: In Defense of the US Border



From the transcript of the Darkstream:

The problem is that Americans don't understand that the frontier closed over one hundred years ago. These people are not coming to America to become Americans, they're invading America to demand tribute. There's an old saying about the Danegeld: once you pay the Danegeld you'll never be rid of the Dane. The United States brought in immigrants, brought in refugees, and all they did was encourage more. And that's why the United States is falling apart.

The average IQ has fallen by as much as eight points. The country is literally stupefying itself, enstupidating itself, however you want to describe it, the country is actively lowering its standard of living and its ability to maintain its infrastructure. It is not sustainable. Trump understands what is politically possible better than me, that's true, but it's not about politics. War is not about politics. When Clausewitz talks about war being politics by other means, that's the whole point, it's about other means. Once you're in the realm of defending borders, that's not something that you need to win support for, you either do it or you don't, and if you don't do it then you have failed. It's that simple.

Gordon says the entire West is infested with that mentality. That's absolutely true and it's not an accident. It's a mentality that has been pushed systematically on the West by a coalition of peoples whose interests are intrinsically anti-Western. It's not a single group of people. It's not just the Jews, it's not just the socialists, it's not just the various immigrant peoples,  it is a coalition of peoples whose interests are in general opposed to the interests of the Western people.

Now the West has brought it on itself, you know. The fact that the West colonized these other countries, the fact that the West imposed their economic systems and their currencies and their legal systems and everything else on other countries, is now coming back to bite the West. This is a normal reaction to empire. If you study the empires of the past, whether you study the Athenian empire, whether you study the Roman empire, whether you look at some of the Chinese empires, whether you look at the German empire, whether you look at the British empire, all of these empires were fundamentally weakened by the nature of their having established their rule over foreign nations because it's a relationship that goes both ways. When you set up a colony in another nation you obviously affect that nation, but that nation also affects you. That's why the Dutch have an issue with the people who obtain Dutch citizenship through living in the Netherlands Antilles.

This is a historical pattern that repeats itself over and over and over again, and the logic of empire is what is now destroying the United States empire. People say, well, you know, the US is not an empire, we don't have an emperor. Well, who was the emperor of the Athenian empire? You can't name it,  there wasn't one, because an empire is not about what you call the ruler or rulers, it's fundamentally about whether one nation is ruling over a series of other nations or not.

A reader is reminded of the historical cycle described in the ancient Chinese classic:
The latest Darkstream immediately brought to mind the famous opening lines of Three Kingdoms:

“Here begins our tale. The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been.”

The urge to unite speaks to man’s hubris and arrogance, and the eventual division, to the inevitable end of that folly and hubris.

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30 Comments:

Blogger Gregory the Great October 31, 2018 8:18 AM  

The havenots will always envy the havesomethings and fall prey to ideologies like Marxism, especially if there is no religion to tell them that envy is a sin and that whatever their fate in this world they should not commit crimes and sins and that there is a place for them in another world.

Blogger Johnny October 31, 2018 8:26 AM  


Clausewitz got it half right. War isn't politics by other means, politics is war by other means. War came first and politics is only possible in benign situations, which is what Europe had with the feuding ennobled class. They were like a club and had a mutual understanding usually adhered to.

Blogger DJT October 31, 2018 8:31 AM  

"The United States brought in immigrants, brought in refugees, and all they did was encourage more."

And they continue to do so. Including conservatives.

I grow tired of civnats like Sean Hannity trying to outdo each other with how welcoming they can be to immigrants.

As of there is any fundamental difference between an alien who fills out a form, and one who doesn't. There isn't. There is no magic skill that immigrants bring which can't be found among our native citizens. (You might have to pay a little more for it, but therein lies the truth that economic immigration is just the Dems new form of slavery.)

Blogger Johnny October 31, 2018 8:45 AM  

>>I grow tired of civnats like Sean Hannity trying to outdo each other with how welcoming they can be to immigrants.

People who deal in ideas instead of realities very easily develop a sense of vicarious virtue, which morphs with great ease into hypocrisy. They display virtue by attempting to sacrifice somebody else's self interest. That would be a priest class when they are not running the society, writers of all sorts, the chattering classes, and teachers. And in general, anybody who does not have to bare the burden of their own self professed virtue. Currently such people are a plague on our society.

Blogger Daniel October 31, 2018 8:46 AM  

Johnny, please read a little Clausewitz. Your opinion is ignorant of his argument.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 31, 2018 9:07 AM  

About the only mainstream thinker to actually write about the American Empire ending that I can think of off hand is William Lind with "Victoria." The rest of the right wingers who get some mainstream cred always hint that in the future dystopia the leftist anti-'Muricans get crushed Pax Americana re-established.

Never mind the Hard Right numb nuts such as Hunter Wallace with his black pills at Occidental Dissent, it's the conservative outrage whine all the way down with that crew, they simply refuse to leave the conservative model of failure. It's the American Empire that is failing including its vaunted military, why padlock yourself to it?

Blogger Lurker October 31, 2018 9:07 AM  

"And in general, anybody who does not have to bare the burden of their own self professed virtue. Currently such people are a plague on our society."

Completely spot and well said, no skin in the game.

Blogger Harry Goldblatt MD October 31, 2018 9:25 AM  

Hi VD, it was mentioned in a previous Dev Stream that Ryan Dawson's Bitchute account was suspended. This is NOT true. It was his Vimeo account that was taken down.
To my knowledge Bitchute has not suspended anyone for political opinions. It is a platform with few vulnerabilities.

Blogger PragmaticTroll October 31, 2018 9:34 AM  

Anyone know of a quality, unabridged version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms mentioned? All the versions on Amazon are highly suspect.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 31, 2018 9:38 AM  

I grow tired of civnats

We can just stop that sentence there. They swarmed yesterday to protect the right of foreigners to invade the US via the womb, insisting it was sacred. As soon as people started discussing it, it was obvious they based that on nothing but their civ-nat faith. They *know* the 14th demands birthright citizenship the same way they *know* the races are equal and all peoples want freedom.

Blogger pyrrhus October 31, 2018 9:40 AM  

Curiously, it's the traditional liberals (1960s variety) who are the most red pilled on the likely future of America, and much of the world. For example, Jim Kunstler and John Michael Greer...Greer openly supported Trump in the last election, and Kunstler backs him now, because he views the Democrats as completely insane...They see the world devolving to something like the 1830s while maintaining a few technologies that aren't fuel intensive.

Blogger camcleat October 31, 2018 10:02 AM  

@11

Curiously, it's the traditional liberals (1960s variety) who are the most red pilled on the likely future of America,

Your comment reminds me of the essay "Another 'Low Dishonest Decade' On the Left" by Peter Collier and David Horowitz in There Will Be War, Volume VII.

In that essay, radical 60's leftists lament the coming and nature of what they called "The New Left" in the 70's.

Central to the contrast was where allegiance to nation lay as influenced by ideology. Interesting read.

Blogger LES October 31, 2018 10:09 AM  

"Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand." Matthew 12:25

Blogger My Shield Is Disgust October 31, 2018 10:44 AM  

Vox, I thought you would appreciate that this is the first result that comes up when you google "bafflegarble"

https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2018/07/24/jordan-petersons-psychobabble/

Blogger Don't Call Me Len October 31, 2018 10:45 AM  

People say, well, you know, the US is not an empire


Indeed, it is the worst sort of empire, one that denies that it is so because the idea of empire violates its self-described "principles". What results is a foul protection racket dominated by dead-eyed soulless goons whose only concern is how much they earn out of it.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 31, 2018 10:50 AM  

Realtalk -- "We can't fight them -- they have CAMP FOLLOWERS!"

Blogger Dirk Manly October 31, 2018 11:14 AM  

This is the most incompetently run empire ever -- defending vassal states without charging them tribute, but instead, subsidizing them.

Almost, but not quite as idiotic as the Soviet Union -- which exported raw materials to Eastern Europe and imported the finished goods from Eastern Europe.

Blogger Bobiojimbo October 31, 2018 11:48 AM  

On the subject of the Romans, the Unz Review has an interesting article that summarizes what VD mentioned: http://www.unz.com/article/what-race-were-the-greeks-and-romans/

Blogger Blaidd October 31, 2018 11:49 AM  

The urge to unite speaks to man’s hubris and arrogance

I'm always baffled to see people languishing under the EU advocate leaving the EU and then immediately forming a "Scandinavian Union" or an "Iberian Union" or a "Pan-Slavic Union." The last one was particularly confounding given how Yugoslavia collapsed less than 30 years ago.

And then there's the US where despite everyone hating everyone else, bring up separating and everyone threatens Civil War 2.

Blogger veryfunnyminion October 31, 2018 11:56 AM  

"Anyone know of a quality, unabridged version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms mentioned? All the versions on Amazon are highly suspect."

The original Koei video game of it was awesome. They seem to be up to version XIII now, haven't played the new ones. You really wanted to steal the right leaders at the start of the game, Zhuge Liang was awesome.

Blogger John Best October 31, 2018 12:25 PM  

Trump couldn't get much better optics than protecting the US border from yet another invasion. No more deals or processing or finding out who people are, they aren't Americans and they should be in America. If they try to enter wipe them out and build the wall.

I liked Peter Hitchens for a long time, but now I just see him as someone who is in the public space to demoralize people who oppose globalism. He isn't Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro, but he is meant to be another breakwater stopping people going further nationalist and to demoralize people so they give up on Albion.

I think China will break apart like it did before. The rising power in Asia is Japan. I get a lot of knowledge from George Friedman and he was just on the Dennis Prager show.

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 31, 2018 12:44 PM  

What came first, the voting pebbles or the stone ax?

Is either the ballot or the bayonet.

If the voting cannot be substantially uncorrupted then it is by other means.

A good depiction of the Battle Of Athens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c-Dsg4X4Dk

Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtrsk1HmOKU

Blogger Haxo Angmark October 31, 2018 4:44 PM  

actually, VD et al., Trump could build the Wall w/o reference to the converged Congress or any other Judeo-globalist obstructionists:

as C-in-C, he could give the project to the Army Corps of Engineers, and pay for it out of the annual c. $200 billion Pentagon black budget.

but he won't,

because he never intended to build a wall. On a related matter,

Trump's "troops on the border" aren't there to stop the latest surge in invasive ethnorcs. As with the last "refugee caravan", the soldiers will stand around with their hands in pockets.

the soldaten are on the border to make sure the brown orcs are not interfered with by any local White militia types.

Blogger Matamoros October 31, 2018 5:10 PM  

@23 "As with the last "refugee caravan", the soldiers will stand around with their hands in pockets."

That's what I'm afraid of. They will stand around and let the invaders walk through them.

But history shows the American army has never refused to fire on the citizenry when ordered; so we can hope they may fire on the invaders.

Blogger MJ Meyers October 31, 2018 6:21 PM  

7% of people born in the U.S. are anchor babies?* That's a powerful statistic. I had NO idea until I saw the media try to debunk it. If you had asked me to guess, I'd have said less than 1%.

The caravan of 5,000 is a cosmetic problem. The real issue is the quarter million/year anchored here and the millions more they're bringing in with the anchor.

https://dailycaller.com/2016/10/27/7-of-births-in-the-us-are-anchor-babies/

Blogger Dirk Manly October 31, 2018 8:53 PM  

Well, as nobody has ever given them a piece of paper saying "You, anchor-baby, are a U.S. citizen," their imaginary citizenship can be abolished as easily as it was conjured up into existence. The only ones who will be a real difficulty will be those who have obtained a U.S. passport.

All of the rest of them can have their imaginary U.S. citizenship turned into genuine foreign citizenship quite easily, as it literally takes no paperwork to do so -- merely training Immigration officers how to properly interpret the relevant data -- especially at border crossings and other ports of entry.

Blogger tz October 31, 2018 9:31 PM  

Trump keeps upping the MAGAtonnage of the bombs he drops. In this case the enemy is #Resisting surrender even as they glow brighter in both Trump's and their self-immolation.

The future is so bright I have to wear welding glasses.

Blogger Jack Ward October 31, 2018 11:12 PM  

Just finished watching the Darkstream, finally, In defense of the US border. Vox mentioned Ship of Fools near the end. The author made a great piece of rhetoric early in the chapter on Harari.
"When it comes to the task of explaining social institutions, the idea of culture as fiction is about as useful as a rubber nail'
If you haven't gotten Ship Of
fools yet, I would recco it as choice entertainment for the mind; as opposed, lets say, ice cream or bubble gum for your intellect.

Blogger Jack Ward October 31, 2018 11:22 PM  

@6 Mantraman

Linds Victoria was excellent. Think I will reread it. Especially as it becomes more possible daily.

Blogger JGP November 01, 2018 12:08 AM  

Interesting book review on the Collapse Of Complex Societies. Very applicable to our situation.

http://www.unz.com/akarlin/tainter-collapse-of-complex-societies/

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