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Wednesday, October 31, 2018

Interview with a sociopath

This interview is taken from a British dating show on which a convicted murderer appeared as a contestant. It's interesting to see the similarity to the way gammas talk total nonsense about themselves.
How would you describe yourself?

John Cannan: ‘I think a ruff would suit me. Tights and sword, I can see me on some bridge, on some galleon, being a pirate - yes, I can handle that. Yes, I have a dislike of inflated egos - people who are, they look at me - "I'm great", type. I don't like that, I can't handle that sort of inner weakness.’

That kind of pretention?

JC: ‘Yeah, I don't like that at all. I just like just normal, average people.’

What do you look for in a person? What attracts you?

JC: ‘I think apart from the physical side, again I think somebody who’s pleasant, who's natural, who's relaxed, somebody who's calm – just pleasant, someone nice.

You’re not worrying about if they’re career orientated?

JC: ‘No; no, no; no, no. As somebody who’s career orientated myself, I couldn’t blame them for that. No, not at all.’

Do you admire any famous people, past and present?

JC: ‘Yes, I’ve admired a few. People like Gandhi, philosophers like Bertrand Russell. Present day people like Prince Charles, who’s socially aware. Physically, somebody like Stephanie Beacham.’

Who’s that?

JC: ‘No, it’s actually… I think she’s in Dallas, or from Crest or something. No, joking apart, somebody natural, nice, pleasant, somebody with character, a little personality.’

Practical?

JC: ‘Practical, yes. Just somebody normal – somebody who’s easy and relaxed to be with.’

Now what about TV comedy programmes, is there anything that you like?

JC: ‘I’m a little bit dry as regards humour. Dave Allen, Benny Hill is OK.’

How dare you say Benny Hill?!

JC: ‘It’s a bit slapstick, I know, Benny Hill is OK – or he used to be, not so good nowadays, but he used to be. Yeah, that type of… mainly dry humour.’

Now, do you have any ambitions for the future, or do you feel like you’ve achieved your ambitions already?

JC: 'I’ve achieved them. Basic, financially I’ve achieved them.

So you’re just going to curl up and keel over then?

JC: ‘No, no, not at all. I’m just looking now – I’m in a sedimentary period, where financially and career wise, I’ve achieved what I’ve wanted to achieve, I’m just now looking for what, the next thing to achieve.’
I'm always suspicious of people who use words improperly, such as the use of the word "sedimentary" when he meant "sedentary". Keep in mind that the man was completely unemployed at the time. And on what planet was Benny Hill ever "dry humour"?

One thing I've learned over half-a-century on the planet is that the small things matter more than most people believe. Even the smallest error that reveals a pretense can tell you a great deal about an individual.

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Blogger Matt October 31, 2018 5:00 PM  

I never understood the hatred of those who feel good about themselves. I hated myself as a child, so I dont believe it necessarily comes from jealousy due to having low self esteem.

Blogger Nostromo October 31, 2018 5:14 PM  

When I first saw Benny Hill I laughed my ass off. Then the station quit carrying him. Fast forward, and they're selling Benny Hill DVD's! All right! Bought a box set! And it wasn't funny at all. That's when Benny transitioned over to the dry humor I guess.

Blogger Cederq October 31, 2018 5:15 PM  

Word salad is what comes to mind. Mentally ill. That was one of the teaching points, listen and observe the small things. Much more revealing.

Blogger rumpole5 October 31, 2018 5:25 PM  

In my years prosecuting post conviction capital litigation I've been in courtrooms with men who, for want of a better description, radiated evil. I can't say that this fellow struck me that way at first glance of the tape. Was he diagnosed as a sociopath. Did they do the Hare psycopathy checklist on him? I've heard that young males who develop a taste for violent pornography can get to where they require violence to get off fully sexually. I'm not sure that would qualify one as a full blown psychopath (or sociopath) who lacks the capacity to empathize with others at any level.

Blogger The Scribe October 31, 2018 5:25 PM  

Always be alert around those who speak much and say little.

P.S. I understand there's a backlash against Benny Hill these days; his humor was "misogynistic." Pah, he was hilarious.

Blogger Silent Draco October 31, 2018 5:32 PM  

That read more like a stream of UNconsciousness. No awareness of what he's talking about: Benny Hill as DRY HUMOR? Explains much about gammas, other sociopaths, and Twitter addicts. If they're really lucky, they are thinking 74 characters ahead and come to a hard stop. Otherwise, are they able to assemble 8 characters ahead?

Blogger Zaklog the Great October 31, 2018 5:40 PM  

I'd prefer not to enter my sedimentary period until after I'm dead.

Blogger Zaklog the Great October 31, 2018 5:42 PM  

So do you think Jordan Peterson enjoys the dry humor of Benny Hill? Is he ready for his sedimentary period?

Blogger Unknown October 31, 2018 5:43 PM  

Damn, reminds me of the killer who was a contestant on the old Dating Game show.

But this is one of the most tragic dating videos ever:

Redneck Dating Disaster

Blogger Cecil Henry October 31, 2018 5:49 PM  

What I take from this is that its very hard to really tell who's a psychopath, who's just nervous, or who's just pretentious.

Nothing hear screams danger, I see people like this a lot.

How to know for sure????

Blogger Cetera October 31, 2018 5:50 PM  

‘I think a ruff would suit me. Tights and sword, I can see me on some bridge, on some galleon, being a pirate - yes, I can handle that. Yes, I have a dislike of inflated egos - people who are, they look at me - "I'm great", type. I don't like that, I can't handle that sort of inner weakness.’

The irony of this section alone...

Blogger Steve Samson October 31, 2018 5:53 PM  

There's something with the repetition too. "natural-nice-pleasant-natural-nice-normal-pleasant."

It's off, but I don't know why.

Blogger Rhys October 31, 2018 5:56 PM  

I think it's not a stretch to say most people, most norps, generally are dishonest about their intent or inner feelings on things. Usually when someone says something like ‘Yeah, I don't like that at all. I just like just normal, average people' I get the impression they're an arrogant jackass who thinks nobody is good enough for them. Since, you know, they said the opposite.

Blogger rumpole5 October 31, 2018 6:02 PM  

I Read the whole article. Certainly a cool character. His history reminded me of a Defendant I and some cohorts prosecuted in the late 80s, one Robert Beeler Power. Power did a series of similar outrageous sexual batteries in the Orlando area in the late 80s. As I recall, his rampage began after he was raped in jail. I wonder if this fellow experienced a rage inducing event like that? I don't think that Power was a psychopath or sociopath. He was just drawn to tying up vulnerable females and raping them in humiliating ways. Unfortunately he was confronted by a deputy after finishing with his last vicitm, a really sweet 13 year old, got the deputy's gun away from him, and then ran back in somewhat of a panic and cut the poor chid's throat! Power forbade his attorney from presenting a full mitigation defense at his penalty phase trial, and I always had the impression that he had regrets and wanted the death penalty to be carried out. I had enough problems with the crime scene photos in court, I doubt Power had many sweet dreams after that. He died in prison of natural causes at a realitively young age.

Blogger Unknown October 31, 2018 6:09 PM  

Actually that other link leaves out the end, one of the best parts, here's the full video:

Redneck Dating Disaster with right ending

Blogger Mister Excitement October 31, 2018 6:17 PM  

Sociopaths, Psychopaths, and Narcissists are endlessly fascinating. There's a mountain of material about them on Youtube.

The disturbing thing about them is that there is no cure. These people can't be fixed.

More than one psychologist/psychiatrist or other kind of professional in the field have said that Psychopaths are born evil (their words).

Blogger haus frau October 31, 2018 6:23 PM  

12. There's something with the repetition too. "natural-nice-pleasant-natural-nice-normal-pleasant."

It's off, but I don't know why.

It is odd in a hard to describe way. I would think that a serious person who is going to a dating service to meet people would have a specific idea of the kind of person they want to meet. I mean, he is supposedly paying for a service because hes having trouble meet the right one.
His vague "just someone nice, natural, normal" speel reminds me of the story of one serial killer who started a spree by adopting a couple of free puppies which he promptly killed when he got home. The puppies owner remembered thinking it odd that he didn't care at all about the sex of the puppies or ask any questions. He just wanted to take them all home quickly. So much for screeningpuppy buyers.

Blogger ocean of condescension October 31, 2018 6:27 PM  

In his book on sociopaths, Robert Hare discusses one of their linguistic tells. They tend to say two contradictory things in sequence. Like, "No, I didn't murder him. I stabbed him with a knife and he died." The logical contradiction, or several of them in a row, tends to overload the defenses of the victim.

Blogger Balam October 31, 2018 6:28 PM  

Mister Excitement wrote:Sociopaths, Psychopaths, and Narcissists are endlessly fascinating. There's a mountain of material about them on Youtube.

The disturbing thing about them is that there is no cure. These people can't be fixed.

More than one psychologist/psychiatrist or other kind of professional in the field have said that Psychopaths are born evil (their words).


Psychopathy is, in my opinion, a lot more useful than it is a negative thing that needs to be fixed. It's on a spectrum that ranges from "fearless soldier and iron gutted surgeon" to "can't function in society murderer rapist". It's the opposite of the nervous jittery man who cares about everyone's opinion of him. There's a book that I got most of my information from which asserts that many of our best high performers in high stress occupations (surgeon, soldier, saints etc) are likely on that psychopath spectrum. Being a high strung guy myself I wish I was more psychopathic after reading about it.

I have nothing to say about sociopaths and narcissists.

Blogger Lamarck Leland October 31, 2018 6:36 PM  

Seems like that narcissistic trait

How would you describe yourself?

- ‘I think a dress would suit me. I can see me on some law, being a marine - yes, I'm like a 6'4'' ex-marine. My daughter can lift more than I do."

Blogger Servant of the Chief October 31, 2018 6:37 PM  

I think the similarity has less to do with sociopathy and gammadom being related as much as both conditions either cause or require severe narcissism and the need to seem smart or impressive in front of groups.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len October 31, 2018 6:38 PM  

"No, I didn't murder him. I stabbed him with a knife and he died."

Isn't that what the Saudis said about Khashoggi?

Blogger Mister Excitement October 31, 2018 6:58 PM  

@19

Psychopaths and Sociopaths are the same except for one factor: Psychopaths are born, Sociopaths are made.

All 3 conditions are the same as far as normal people are concerned. All of them lack empathy, are extremely manipulative and destructive.

As far as psychopathy being useful: it's useful for the psychopath as long as he is personally benefiting. Psychopathy is much more profound that simply being able to perform in a high stress situation without getting the jitters.

These people, if you want to call them that, are empty shells that just happen to look and act human. In their minds, they are as alien to a normal person as a rattlesnake.

They have no empathy and only want to please themselves and destroy others. Any benefits that a third party gains from the actions of a psychopath are, like Hannibal Lecter said, "incidental."

Blogger Cecil Henry October 31, 2018 7:01 PM  

@18:

Like this, for example??:


“We have to stop demonizing people and realize that the number one terror threat is white men.”

-CNN

or this??

https://i.imgur.com/EWWoHX4.jpg

or this?? !!

https://i.imgur.com/lQHtZlU.png

Blogger Mister Excitement October 31, 2018 7:07 PM  

@18

That's a good tell. From my experience from dealing with toxic people over the years, one tell is that when that person is around, you're suddenly making all sorts of mistakes.

They'll always make sure to point out everything you're doing wrong. Of course, they're just manufacturing accusations of things you're doing wrong, but they want to make sure they tear you down at every opportunity. They're very good at this.

You could be sitting quietly in a corner reading a book, and the toxic person could list 10 things you're doing wrong.

It's basically Gaslighting. After a time of doing this, you start to question your own competence if you're don't catch on to their games.

Blogger Mister Excitement October 31, 2018 7:18 PM  


Cannan Dating Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3mmHpaS6U

Cannan Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwjzZB_gZdY

There's lots more on about this guy on youtube if anybody is interested. Nothing at Bitchute.

Blogger Timmy3 October 31, 2018 7:32 PM  

Small things matter and Big things like murder.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 31, 2018 7:56 PM  

@24 Cecil, there's no contradiction in that statement if he doesn't see white men as people.

Blogger S. Thermite October 31, 2018 8:14 PM  

@Lamarck Leland
”I think a dress would suit me. I can see me on some law, being a marine - yes, I'm like a 6'4'' ex-marine. My daughter can lift more than I do."

Nicely done, Sir! Also “I started at the lowest difficulty setting but could only woo an ogreress.”

Blogger rumpole5 October 31, 2018 8:20 PM  

Re: "Sociopaths are made" Well then, if so, then VD's label for this guy matches my impression from the video. (And VD is accurate, as usual) I ceased opposing capital psyc claims around a decade ago, and at that time, even the experts like Hare did not have a firm distinction between sociopathy, and psycopathy. It certainly makes sense that some kind of developmental trauma, like being abused as a child, raped in prison, joining a gang that employed violence, and the like would impair one's natural empathy. I had another Defendant, I believe that his name was David Dufour. He had been abused as a child, was raped by a neighbor, was farmed out to an older homosexual where he apparently rented himself out to his brother's friends and started robbing them. Then, after a stint with a gypsy witchcraft coven he met while hitchhiking, that included, inter alia, exhuming graveyard corpses for ceremonies, Dufour started doing restaurant robberies and meetups with homosexual men, whom Dufour would torture and murder. That was one of the "radiating evil" Defendants. I never liked being in the same courtroom with him.

Blogger Jon Mollison October 31, 2018 8:21 PM  

"I'm really looking for that special girl who has poor situational awareness. No close family. Oh, and if she can fit into a trunk, that would be a nice touch as well."

Blogger rumpole5 October 31, 2018 8:26 PM  

Make that Donald Dufour. Ibm not surprized that I had trouble remembering his name -- protective forgetfulness.

Blogger LP999-16 October 31, 2018 8:35 PM  

Scary dude I would not want to meet ever, bad energy. The brows and rap sheet...

Not sure if I am alarmed or its funny he mentioned "Falcon" Crest and Dallas. TV, right?

I bet the Parkland school shooter is still getting love letters.

Blogger Desert Screamer October 31, 2018 8:54 PM  

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Blogger Mister Excitement October 31, 2018 8:58 PM  

@30

Heartbreaking story. Child abuse will definitely create a sociopath and a narcissist.

This is a great interview of a clinical psychologist about narcissists.

What's interesting is that the difference between Narcissists, Sociopaths, and Psychopaths are their own personal motivations. Their effect on normal people (and organizations) is the same. They are very destructive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioWcLuMcTBc

Blogger Gastguma October 31, 2018 9:16 PM  

There's a Christian apologist named David Wood who was a former atheist and describes himself as a psychopath. His youtube channel is called Acts17Apologetics and he mostly does videos against Islam.

He has an interesting video about his background and conversion to Christianity here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DakEcY7Z5GU

Blogger LP999-16 October 31, 2018 9:17 PM  

35 Well if one considers the premise of that 50 shades of grey book-movie, the man or starring actor was groomed/abused by an older woman at age 15, and messed up per the review I heard from friends. So his interactions with the lady star were just an abused young man living it out his abuse as a now abuser per the movie, I guess the girl accepted it and they didn't live happily ever after. It was a few years back I was told about that.

Hollywood emotional porn trash for the tv heads.

Returning to the post at AG/here, the police were not alarmed at all by the person featured in this posts article at all per his disarming but clearly dangerous deadly intent which would be easy to read to someone whom can read warning signs.

Its interesting UK police didn't realize it, he killed the 25 yr old in the 80's - poor girls family.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 31, 2018 9:27 PM  

"No, no, not at all. I’m just looking now – I’m in a sedimentary period,"

Perhaps this is some sort of projection which caused him to justify it as that girl NEEDS to be buried.... because sedimentary period.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 31, 2018 9:46 PM  

@22

>> "No, I didn't murder him. I stabbed him with a knife and he died."

> Isn't that what the Saudis said about Khashoggi?

Not at all.

The Saudis DISMEMBERED Khashoggi, then he died, and then they chopped him up smaller.

Not same same.
Not even different same same. We keep chopping.

Blogger Didas Kalos October 31, 2018 9:56 PM  

Demonized people can look very normal one minute. Mark 1 he was sitting in church. Until Jesus spake. Then bam.....

Blogger Rickaby007 October 31, 2018 10:25 PM  

Word salad has been noted as a tool used by cluster B personality types use to disarm and gaslight their victims. Narcissists are renowned for using word salad. Look no further than Peterson.

Blogger Rickaby007 October 31, 2018 10:36 PM  

@Mister Excitement. Yeah, classic cluster B gaslighting. It's how they disarm you so they can start seriously abusing you. Fortunately there are techniques for dealing with these people. One is to mirror them and overload their amygdala by verbally disciplining them in an angry and authoritative tone whichever triggers abandonment fear on them.

Regarding behaviour, I worked with a low self-esteem narcissist once. He tried to critique me on everything I did, even going so far as to make critiques about nonexistent mistakes that would need to be checked. It gets to the point where they make you think you're going crazy. Then you begin catching on because inconguency between reality and the web they spin

Blogger Daniel October 31, 2018 10:40 PM  

Weird. Beachem was a rape victim, although that was not publicly known when this guy gave his interview.

Coincidence, I'm sure.

Blogger Mister Excitement October 31, 2018 10:53 PM  

@42

Thanks for the response and the great information.

These people are rampant in our society. Some enterprising economist should do a study to calculate the dollar figure is on the personal. professional, and organizational destruction they create.

Blogger English Tom October 31, 2018 11:04 PM  

Vox, don't you think by using the term sedimentary he was alluding to a multi-layered personality!

Blogger Beau October 31, 2018 11:25 PM  

OT

Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. Matthew 11:29

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim October 31, 2018 11:29 PM  

Bertrand Russell was all I needed to know.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 31, 2018 11:58 PM  

Bertrand Russell... incredibly smart, but almost always lacking in wisdom.

Blogger Thad tuiol November 01, 2018 1:49 AM  

Bertrand Russell was also a literal cuck: His wife was known as "a real goer" who would sleep with any man that caught her eye.

Blogger John rockwell November 01, 2018 1:50 AM  

They always have this thing called superficial charm.

Blogger John rockwell November 01, 2018 1:53 AM  

Plus almost all serial killers start off torturing small animals in their childhood.

Plus they somehow end up in positions of power.

These 2 australian documentaries is also informative:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaeJCA4nRPI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv0LgmGtc7w

Blogger Azure Amaranthine November 01, 2018 2:42 AM  

"There's something with the repetition too. "natural-nice-pleasant-natural-nice-normal-pleasant."

It's off, but I don't know why."


Stuck out the most to me too. I think it's his projection of the mindset he developed to try to avoid being caught out as what he is. Everything must be normal, there's nothing wrong here, etc.

Blogger SciVo November 01, 2018 3:34 AM  

One thing I've learned over half-a-century on the planet is that the small things matter more than most people believe. Even the smallest error that reveals a pretense can tell you a great deal about an individual.

I agree. For example, I wouldn't expect a random person to have even heard the term "elective affinities" before, let alone know what it means. But if someone throws it out there in a "look at me I'm so smart" kind of way, and especially if she has a degree in comparative literature and has written a book on dating, then she damn well better use it in a way that makes the meaning clear.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 01, 2018 4:08 AM  

So does Moira Weigel get added to the SJW List, to be posted at all airport terminals for checking names during passenger check-in / boarding?

Blogger pyrrhus November 01, 2018 6:05 AM  

O/T Ann Coulter provides a nice summary of the law on the nonexistent "birthright" citizenship for children of aliens, including native Americans...http://takimag.com/article/the-true-history-of-millstone-babies/#axzz5VapSXyP5

Blogger yoghi.llama November 01, 2018 6:27 AM  

#&+£~7^%;| aaaaggghh

I did not know that about David Wood.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume November 01, 2018 6:29 AM  

Regarding the word salad/contradicting phrases technique used by the psychopaths and sociopaths:

My first encounter with a psychopath started with the victim. I was a rookie and speaking to her and I gather that she froze right up because of his contradictory patter which is very much like a stage magician's. I did not understand cognitive dissonance at that time. Had not even heard of it. But, in her case, it went something like this:

"I'm not going to hurt you. I'm not going to come any closer. That's a beautiful sweater." Psycho steps closer.

"I'm not going to come closer. I just want to hold your hand for a moment." But he had a box cutter in his hand. Psycho steps closer.

The woman couldn't understand why she froze and could not move or make a decision to act. Later, talking with a guy who was a Psychiatrist for the Department of Corrections, he explained to me what was happening and how his contradictory words and actions caused cognitive dissonance and her mind froze.

Psychopaths and sociopaths often know this. And use it when it suits them, which is often. Whether they know it or understand it innately or it is learned, is beyond my knowledge and education.

But at this point in my career, I've seen plenty of both varieties and they both make my skin crawl.

Mister Excitement nailed it with this:

"These people, if you want to call them that, are empty shells that just happen to look and act human. In their minds, they are as alien to a normal person as a rattlesnake.

They have no empathy and only want to please themselves and destroy others. Any benefits that a third party gains from the actions of a psychopath are, like Hannibal Lecter said, "incidental.""

Blogger Lurker November 01, 2018 6:34 AM  

So basically a standard boomer.

"So for example improvidence is a key sociopathic indicator...."

http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2017/03/08/bruce-gibney-sociopaths-baby-boomers

Blogger Bob Loblaw November 01, 2018 6:54 AM  

This is kind of weird. US serial killer Rodney Alcala won The Dating Game in 1978. Wish I could find a transcript.

Blogger Harry Goldblatt MD November 01, 2018 7:05 AM  

When I look at the Cannan dating agency video interview and see his mannerism and facial expressions, I cannot help thinking that he appears as a Christopher Hitchens persona. It is the "Believe Me" face and the "Don't cross me or else" face. Very Hitchenesque.

Blogger Gregory the Great November 01, 2018 7:21 AM  

The question if somebody can be "born bad" or only becomes "bad" through influences from parents, peer-group or society is extremely interesting to me. Rousseauism, Marxism + modern leftist psychology have by now indoctrinated several generations with the idea that everybody bad must have been molested, spanked, mistreated, raped, bullied or at least brought up in an authoritarian fashion (see Fromm/Horkheimer/Adorno/Marcuse). This also basically seems to be the Molyneux explanation.
On the other hand the Christian faith has an another explanation: The devil never stops tempting your fallible and gullible character until you die, some are more prone than others to falling for the devil's lure and they lose their baby's innocence early in life - e.g. as soon as their are able to torment animals.
And then there are some psychologists who recently - in spite of all their Marxist indoctrination - say that some people seem to have been "born evil". Or "demonically possessed" right away (I guess a Marxist priest would say: oh, the poor thing, it his not his fault that the demon grabbed him, let us all be nice to him and teach him about the Lord, and he will improve over time).
Today I tend to think that outside influences certainly play a role, but that the seed for evil comes from a source not so easily allocated.
I would appreciate it very much if this discussion could be continued in this blog.

Blogger Johnny November 01, 2018 8:53 AM  

Nostromo wrote:When I first saw Benny Hill I laughed my ass off. Then the station quit carrying him. Fast forward, and they're selling Benny Hill DVD's! All right! Bought a box set! And it wasn't funny at all. That's when Benny transitioned over to the dry humor I guess.

Remembering some old TV serial shows that I enjoyed, I purchased some DVDs that had a collection of the episodes. Fundamentally it ruined the shows for me. The thing is, a lot of them repeat the same stuff. See them week by week works, but one after another and it becomes apparent that each is often just a different version of the same thing.

Blogger rumpole5 November 01, 2018 10:03 AM  

Re: "So basically a standard boomer".

I can't believe that you worked that into this post! Because the etiology of psychopathy is probably 100% brain damage or genetic brain deficit, I doubt that Boomers are any more prone to the state than any other generation. Moreover, there is no reason to believe that Boomers suffered any trauma other than being significantly spoiled by our doting parents, so no reason for a higher degree of sociopathy. Finally, the subject of the instant post is obviously too young to be a Boomer.

Blogger Lurker November 01, 2018 10:53 AM  

"I can't believe that you worked that into this post!"

That's unsurprising.

"So no reason for a higher degree of sociopathy."

Meanwhile boomers and mental illness go hand in glove. Try reading the book.

"Because the etiology of psychopathy is probably 100% brain damage or genetic brain deficit..

Wrong again. Attempting to find a materialist causation to psychopathy is futile.

Blogger Nate73 November 01, 2018 11:38 AM  

I always thought David Wood's youtube channel was a misnomer because all his videos were about Islam, not Christianity.

Blogger John Best November 01, 2018 3:21 PM  

It is interesting how he would latch onto whatever the interviewer was saying agree with it trying to get approval and come across as successful and intelligent.

Blogger SciVo November 01, 2018 3:25 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:So does Moira Weigel get added to the SJW List, to be posted at all airport terminals for checking names during passenger check-in / boarding?

What ever happened to the SJW list? She can't even review a book by center-left psychologists without deceitfully linking [heretic from SocJus cult dogma] to [Nazi]. She is Evil, having already killed you in her heart to lie about you, and deserves to be on that list as much as anyone.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2018 2:38 AM  

@58

"http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2017/03/08/bruce-gibney-sociopaths-baby-boomers"

I read the article, and then the embedded Google Books excerpt.

Bruce Cannon Gibney thinks/writes just like a baby boomer himself. It seems that his REAL complaint about boomers is that the Boomers have sucked so much oxygen out of the economy, and continue to suck up greater amounts every day, that there's not enough left over for him and those who think like him to continue doing the sort of things that Boomers would have jumped on like a knows-he's-mortally wounded soldier jumping on a grenade, as much to end his own suffering quickly as to save his buddies. He's worried about "the climate"... he says... over ... and over ... and over... despite 20 years of evidence that it's doing EXACTLY what they want it to do, IF, and ONLY IF the public turned over control of all economic and energy-use activity to the climate-worriers.

His assessment of the Boomers as a generation (most especially their leaders) of sociopaths is spot on. "I'm spending my children's inheritance" indeed.

What he fails to address is that, other than year of birth, he's one of them himself.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2018 2:58 AM  

@59

"This is kind of weird. US serial killer Rodney Alcala won The Dating Game in 1978."

That's not the slightest bit surprising.

A friend was telling me about a guy who knew when they were growing up in a rural part of the same county as Ann Arbor, Michigan. Farm country, but a LOT of blacks -- these are blacks who came to Michigan in the 1800's. They're very conservative. They want nothing to do with the "you all owe us for Jim Crow" who came up during WW2 and later. They abhor the NAACP probably even more than the KKK in it's heydey.

Anyways, he was telling me about this childhood acquaintance, who the last they heard of him, was arrested in his apartment in Highland Park, Michigan (An enclave adjoining Hamtrack, which create an island surrounded on all sides by Detroit. Hamtramck is upper blue-collar. Hamtramck has been a welfare cesspit since the 1970's. Hamtramck now has county deputies in place of local police, and not the fire department was also shut down decades ago. Fire trucks come from Detroit and Hamtramck. Hamtramck also has no public schools, although a couple of the buildings were turned into charter schools. The former Hamtramck High School is now a K-12 all-in-one-building charter school. And of course, because it's in all black area, it's called an "Academy" in it's name. Anyways, the charge -- serial rapist murderer. The TV news spot showed officers carrying out trash bag after trash bag of women's panties -- a souvenier that he saved from the body of each woman he killed. The reporter said that there were over 6000.

A man who does something like that could not, in any way, be anything but charismatic and suave, that for him to be doing this for at least 10 years before anyone suspected it was him. His victims were alleged to have been from all over Detroit, and that most of the women he is suspected of raping and killing were described as being physically attractive at the time of their disappearance.

I suppose that the way they identified that all of these women had a common killer was by DNA samples from the rapings.

But anyways, most people, in almost all cases, when they meet a not-publicly-identified psychopaths for the first time, they find them pleasant to bearound. That's because it is absolutely ESSENTIAL to the psychopath to make himself pleasant on first contact with any and all potential victims. It's a mask they wear until they make their first move. However, like all masks, the "personality mask" is false, a contrivance, and is discarded in moments when it isn't needed.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2018 3:16 AM  

@57

""I'm not going to hurt you. I'm not going to come any closer. That's a beautiful sweater." Psycho steps closer.

"I'm not going to come closer. I just want to hold your hand for a moment." But he had a box cutter in his hand. Psycho steps closer.

The woman couldn't understand why she froze and could not move or make a decision to act. Later, talking with a guy who was a Psychiatrist for the Department of Corrections, he explained to me what was happening and how his contradictory words and actions caused cognitive dissonance and her mind froze.

Psychopaths and sociopaths often know this. And use it when it suits them, which is often. Whether they know it or understand it innately or it is learned, is beyond my knowledge and education."

Women pay attention to words more than reality itself.

A friend of mine (Russian, lives in St. Petersburg, Russia) told me an old Russian saying, "Women fall in love with nothing but words."

It's an observation that even kindness doesn't open their hearts.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2018 3:18 AM  

@59

"This is kind of weird. US serial killer Rodney Alcala won The Dating Game in 1978."

That doesn't surprise me at all.
What would be surprise me would be if WASN't the winner.

A psychopath, while having not even $1 to his name or in his pocket, can convince most people that he's a multi-millionaire who lost his wallet.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2018 3:26 AM  

@67

What ever happened to the SJW list? She can't even review a book by center-left psychologists without deceitfully linking [heretic from SocJus cult dogma] to [Nazi]. She is Evil, having already killed you in her heart to lie about you, and deserves to be on that list as much as anyone.

https:www.sjwlist.com

Remember, to SJWs (and that includes some/many? 1970-hippies-turned-Ivy-League-Faculty), anyone to the right of Stalin is a NAZI.

It's like this:

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PolPot Mao Stalin Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi

Blogger LP999-16 November 02, 2018 11:48 AM  

46 indeed worry for nothing be calm about everything, its why this present time of being so upset or easily offended or easy to rage is just perhaps too much media, duren duran in too much information from the 90's warned about that, its a song.

38 locally a young man moved in and out of my building, he left AZ for WV - why? Now of course I'm not saying he is a killer but he wasn't the kind of man to befriend at all. Esspically when this woman in the building was introducing us, why? Miss zero common sense wants her single mom daughter to take my unit thinking I'd fall for him. They asked me to help him move knowing I am sick from surgery and cannot lift weights, I am allowed to walk, I am losing money not working damn it now I have to entertain some 32 yr old that moved into our building - no way - not legit.

Move him, right, he'd move me into some grave leave for AZ, her daughter gets my damn unit. Witch.

Vox, you have a point and all but many people make typos, ticks, mistakes, b/c they are just careless or ill or not that smart. All b/c someone reads here and comments doesn't make their errors meaninful. I noted since surgery I have made more online mistakes to the point of just staying on reading mode until later.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2018 2:46 PM  

@16

"Sociopaths, Psychopaths, and Narcissists are endlessly fascinating. There's a mountain of material about them on Youtube."

Be careful on what you accept about Narcissists. A lot of what people are describing as Narcissists are not properly classified as Narcissists, but instead, Borderline Personality Disorder.

While Narcisstic Personality Disorder is a Group B personality Disorder, and so is Borderline Personality Disorder, the difference between the two is remarkable.

NPD's do not have a high rate of substance abuse, murdering people, being murdered, while they occasionnaly (as opposed to habitually to non-stop like Borderlines) manipulate people, they don't view people as mere objects to be used and discarded as convenient, they don't display signs of psychopathy or sociopathy, they don't engage in self-harm or self-mutilation, and rarely commit suicide, they are generally NOT good liars, nor do they tend to be good actors (the BEST actors in theater and Hollywood tend to be people with little to no self identity.... which is a fundamental component of Borderline Personality Disorder.)

(continued)

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2018 2:49 PM  

(cont.)


I see and read people attributing all kinds of simply horrible things to "Narcissism" which have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH NARCISM -- but instead, are describing Psychopathy and/or Sociopathy combined with viewing others as mere objects to be used and discarded as convenient... by somebody who has also displayed Narcissistic traits. People with Narcissistic Personality Disorder are rarely described as being the most popular person wherever they go, nor of being naturally capable of seducing people (especially sexually), both of which are notoriously present in Borderlines. Narcissists do not display sexual identity problems, like Borderlines, who have fundamental level self identity problems).
Narcissists do NOT engage in the following behavior which is a classic BPD indicator: actively interfering in the relationships of others, cutting off their lines of communication, until the ONLY person the victim can talk to is the BPD person. BPDs, but not Narcissists, ESPECIALLY hate it when two people who know the BPD person discuss the BPD individual outside of his presence. If two of a BPD's runs across two of his acquaintances, and one says, "Hey, we were just talking about you," the immediate reaction of a BPD is pure terror -- primarily because BPD's tell different lies to different people, and their greatest fear is that two people will get together and figure out that they've been told completely different stories about the same incident or subject. In contrast, the immediate reaction of an NPD in that situation is generally satisfaction UNLESS the conversation then goes south ("we noticed you screwed up XYZ the other day..."). BPD's will try to cover up EVERY mistake they make ... usually by "finding it" and accusing someone else of being the person who committed it (yes, they are that brazen), whereas NPD's often report that to whoever needs to know that they made a mistake, or at least to someone who can fix the problem, as their strategy for minimizing the backlash, and in hopes for gaining sympathy for being honest about the screw-up.
This is NOT to say that NPDs never attempt to cover-up a mistake... they will if they think they can correct it before anyone finds out. If caught, they will, reluctantly, admit to it. In contrast, and BPD will deny making mistake, ever, even in a situation where it would be expected that someone would make a mistake (say, doing a difficult task for the first time, which takes most people several attempts before getting it right... a BPD will claim that they did it perfectly the first time -- this is part of the mask they wear, of trying to ALWAYS, AT ALL TIMES, gaslighting people into thinking the BPD is flawless. If a BPD is actively engaged in harming you, especially out of spite, it's "see what YOU MADE ME do!"... if you should accept that, and blame yourself for the BPD's DECISION to harm you -- he isn't at fault, YOU ARE!... because he is perfect and flawless, and you... you are Satan's spawn.)

I think this happens because ALL Borderline Personality Disordered people have full-blown Narcississtic Personality Disorder. And if someone identifies a few of the narcisstic traits, they think they are dealing with a narcisst, not some whole OTHER beast, in which psychopathy, sociopathy, and psychosis are HUGE components, while narcissism is merely one, rather minor component... but it's the easiest to discover early on.

(continued)

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2018 2:50 PM  

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Carl "I'm gonna explain on camera what these people, in their project which I have no role in, are doing, simply because I was in the vicinity and found out there was a film crew documenting this project" Sagan is the perfect example of a Narcissist. Narcissists want attention just for the sake of getting attention. While Narcissists can be annoying, they are also generally HARMLESS.
Carl Sagan had such a bad reputation among professional scientists, that, despite never having worked with the guy, my freshman engineering-track chemistry professor pointed out in one of the first lectures of the year that nearly everyone at JPL "hates Sagan" because no matter what project you were working on, when a camera crew showed up, Sagan would be jumping in front of it and pretending to know what the project was all about, presumably for the final audience (TV or whoever), and that this was almost always completely uninvited. While this is definitely attention-seeking behavior to an extreme, there's no evidence that anyone was ever harmed by Sagan's behavior other than being pissed off for the day due to Sagan being as much of a publicity seeking camera hog as most politicians.

Narcissists also generally know they have, and will seek help for, their problems fitting into society -- but usually discretely (say, in books), as opposed to say, someone like a paranoid schizophrenic, who not only knows he has problems, but when he finally recognizes that not everyone has his sorts of problems, will eagerly seek assistance in whatever form possible, including voluntarily checking themselves into a mental hospital (even if only as a place where they can feel safe from their fears, because in the controlled, non-chaotic environment, there are far fewer apparent-but-false threats to keep them awake at night making elaborate diagrams of perceived malevolent connections on the wall.) The first time, and probably a few more, the paranoid schizophrenic needs involuntary commitment, but eventually, they come to view a mental ward as a place of refuge, and will check themselves in voluntarily when their fears start spinning out of control.

In contrast, a Borderline disordered individual thinks that the ENTIRE WORLD should change for his benefit. He will absolutely REFUSE to change in any way, EVEN IF IT IS EXPLAINED TO HIM how changing will improve his life. Why? Because they wear a mask of "I'm perfect" (generally due to fear developed from punishment going back to infancy for the slightest mistake).

Lastly, true Narcissists tend towards Gamma traits, while BPD's tend to fool those around them into believing that the BPD is an alpha.



TL;DR Look up, and comprehend the descriptions, and the differences between Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2018 2:52 PM  

"Sociopaths, Psychopaths, and Narcissists are endlessly fascinating. There's a mountain of material about them on Youtube.

The disturbing thing about them is that there is no cure. These people can't be fixed."

These people can't be fixed.

That is the calling card of Borderline Personality Disorder, not NPD.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2018 3:03 PM  

@31

""I'm really looking for that special girl who has poor situational awareness. No close family. Oh, and if she can fit into a trunk, that would be a nice touch as well.""

Oh my god... When I was in Baghdad, one day, during the summer, I went down to the PX to buy a couple Gorilla Boxes with wheels to ship a bunch of stuff home, so that I wouldn't have to lug around as much junk... cold weather gear, etc. the day before leaving, I sent home all but my two least-worn uniforms. Kept all my socks and underwear, though!

Anyways, one of the Korean girls working at the PX noticed I had 3 of these things, and asked why I was buying so many. I explained that I was shipping stuff home to America. She immediately bends over at the waist, curling up a little bit, and says, "I can fit in!"

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2018 3:28 PM  

@35

"What's interesting is that the difference between Narcissists, Sociopaths, and Psychopaths are their own personal motivations. Their effect on normal people (and organizations) is the same. They are very destructive."

And you, too, are confusing Borderline Personality Disorder with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Narcissists will NOT destroy an entire company. BPD's will... because THEY THRIVE ON DRAMA. And if there isn't enough drama in their life, THEY WILL CREATE IT.

In contrast, Narcissists avoid drama as if it were the Black Death.

A perfect example of a BPD is the main character in the first season of "Halt and Catch Fire" It's all there. Most of these morons on youtube would classify him as "a narcissist." But if he was truly just a narcissist, he would have been not only harmless, but most likely ineffective enough that he couldn't have even tried, let alone been successful at even getting someone to buy into his plan. The first person he's shown having any significant conversation with, he (sexually) seduces before the conversation is over. He (socially, not sexually) seduces every significant (and even some insignificant) character around him, most for the purpose of getting them to carry out his vision for creating a new, better PC.
While he is truthful in his statement that he worked for IBM, he presents the situation as he walked away from IBM, when in fact, despite being a fantastic salesman, IBM fired him. He even provokes the company Treasurer to commit some criminal fraud by moving some money from some departments to shovel it into the project without changing the budget documentation. They have a successful product launch and demo using a couple pre-production boxes at COMDEX. Then, the night after the creation phase of the project is done, and they've received their first batch of desktop computers from the subcontractor company which is doing the final assembly and packaging into the retail cardboard boxes, and had a big celebratory party... he stays around until everybody leaves, and lights the entire truckload on fire.

THAT is BPD, and ONLY BPD.

Although there are narcisstic traits displayed by this character... he is NOT A Narcissist, he's a CLASSIC case of Borderline Personality Disorder. Midway through the season, he seduces the BROTHER of the company Treasurer. He comes on as VERY alpha, and he is VERY persuasive. He convinces the board of directors (of a small electronics manufacturing company) to branch out into a field of designing and marketing their own line of personal computers. He identifies, and almost effortlessly gathers around him, a pack of individuals and motivates them to become a team... for one purpose, and one purpose only -- to create HIS vision.

And then when they succeed, he blows the whole thing up.

No ordinary narcissist would ever do such a thing. Narcissists would NEVER discard something that is a concrete, tangible marker of their own accomplishment. NOT EVEN if someone creates something better around the same time. At worst, they'll just claim that, if they had more resources to work with, they could have made that other thing, too.

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