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Friday, November 09, 2018

Darkstream: The Sociopathic SJW Media


From the transcript of the Darkstream:

We need to stop thinking that, oh, well, we just need to reason with them! Don't they understand what this is leading to? Well, if we can only convince them what this is leading to, then maybe they'll change! No, that's not going to happen, that's not going to work. If you haven't read it yet, it's a very quick read, but take a look at 4D Warfare by Jack Posobiec. Whether you like Jack or not, whether you think that he is spot-on or not, he does make a very good comparison of what is developing with Antifa in the United States and the Red Guards in China. It's also very similar to what happened with the Reds, the Republicans in Spain during the Spanish Civil War.

The Spanish Civil War was incredibly,  incredibly ugly and so this same framework is what is shaping up in the United States right now. And it's happening, to a great extent, because conservatives have absolutely failed to accept the fact that these people are the enemy. You've got all these good conservatives who are still more concerned about shaking their finger about identity politics and people who would divide the nation when when we should be trying to unite it. It's absolutely ludicrous, it's absolutely a non-starter. The conservative movement has failed utterly because the conservative movement was co-opted by cuckservatives and neocons.

Their whole game was to drive the right away from Christianity and away from nationalism, but the only thing that will save the country, that will save the remnants of the country, is Christian nationalism. That's what we're seeing rising in Europe and that's where you're going to need to turn to find the spiritual, mental, and cultural confidence to stand against Antifa. And that's something that you need to come around to because I understand a lot of you don't want to believe that. I understand that you want to cling to your Enlightenment values,  you want to cling to your tolerance, you want to cling to your hedonism, if you're a woman maybe you want to cling to your feminism.

You can't do it. You can't do it and stand against the evil because it weakens you. The way that you weaken yourself is you compromise yourself, and when you are compromised then you are unable to stand against the evil of others. You just don't have the ability. It's like trying to become a bodybuilder but saying, you know, I'm not going to work my chest muscles. I'll make my legs real strong and I'll make my biceps real strong, but I'm just not gonna do any bench because I don't believe in that. I don't believe in working my pectorals. You know, you're not going to become an effective bodybuilder.

If you have a military operation and you just decide  that we have to do this operation, we want to take this objective, we've got all these forces, but you know, I just fundamentally don't believe in artillery. I think that artillery is just wrong and I don't believe it's effective,  and so we'll send in the infantry, and we'll send in the armor, and and maybe we'll fly some planes too, but no artillery, because artillery is is just wrong. Well, how effective is your military going to be? Maybe it's going to be effective enough,  but it's not going to be as effective as it could and should be.

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188 Comments:

Blogger Jeff aka Orville November 09, 2018 12:35 PM  

I was just out for lunch and Glen Beck was just cucking on this very topic. He kept saying the conservatives need to find a way to connect with the libs to help them understand our point of view. Yet, he turns right around and admits that the left is much less able to listen to another POV outside of their own worldview. Stupid, stupid man.

Blogger The Greay Man November 09, 2018 12:37 PM  

I ask anyone like Glen Beck, "Why do you want to reason with someone who hates you?"

Whatever their reply, I tell them, "You're an idiot who loves to lose."

Being blunt gets a lot of respect from those on the fence.

Blogger Jack Ward November 09, 2018 12:38 PM  

I think you had a dogstream? If it was on Stream Me, I could not find it. Archived somewhere? Was wanting to see the new puppy. If I'm wrong ignore this.
By the way, I got Ivans video with him sitting on a mean looking motorcycle and talking about the doxx and later confrontation by Antifa at the Fox reporters home. Ivan looked very menacing in that video. And, he does seem to enjoy his cigars.

Blogger Nate November 09, 2018 12:39 PM  

The prosecutors is DC are treating the Tucker attack as a hate crime. That's a good start.

Blogger DonReynolds November 09, 2018 12:42 PM  

Vox wrote..."If you have a military operation and you just decide that we have to do this operation, we want to take this objective, we've got all these forces, but you know, I just fundamentally don't believe in artillery. I think that artillery is just wrong and I don't believe it's effective, and so we'll send in the infantry, and we'll send in the armor, and and maybe we'll fly some planes too, but no artillery, because artillery is is just wrong. Well, how effective is your military going to be? Maybe it's going to be effective enough, but it's not going to be as effective as it could and should be."

This is not a hypothetical "if".
After two world wars and several regional wars, saving the lives of tens of thousands of Americans, the mush-heads with brass hats in the Pentagon banned the flamethrower in 1973. The squeamish officers decided it was an "inhumane" weapon and was dropped. And so, after more than 15 years of fighting in the Middle East, it still hurts my heart to see young soldiers and marines going house to house and room to room against a determined enemy. How many have been wounded and killed because they did not have use of the flamethrower in combat situations? How much of the enemy resolve to stand and fight would be completely gone if they faced a weapon that used fire to kill?

Blogger Resident Moron™ November 09, 2018 12:54 PM  

Ivan Throne made a parallel comment in his latest YT video. He said, the Left aren't going away, they aren't going to stop, they aren't going to recognise any limits. Every time they take power they start digging ditches and filling them with emaciated corpses.*

Every. Damn. Time.

Once one understands that this is the essential and unchanging nature of what we face, things get a lot clearer.

(*Not verbatim, but iirc words to that effect)

Blogger Charles Carlson November 09, 2018 12:54 PM  

It is important to understand that those who showed up at Tucker Carlson's house wanted violence. They are Marxists, and almost all Marxists believe that violence is not only morally justifiable in pursuit of their goals, but that violence should be a chief component in achieving their goals.
I think there is almost a 100% chance that Tucker Carlson and his family have guns in their house. Now imagine for a second what the media would have said if Tucker or his wife shot one of the protesters in self defence. The headlines would be something like "Tucker Carlson attacks peaceful protesters" or "Republican rhetoric leads to murder of nonviolent antifascist protesters"
The goal of those who showed up at Tucker's house was to bait him or his family in to protecting themselves and then playing the victim when the MSM inevitably tried to spin the story.

Blogger Gregory the Great November 09, 2018 12:58 PM  

next stop killing fields

Blogger David Ray Milton November 09, 2018 1:11 PM  

Vox (or whomever might be able to point me in the right direction), I would love a good read about Christian Nationalism. I’ve read Cuckservative, which negated most of the points in scripture that have led to SJW convergence, but I’m wondering if there is an extant book that addresses a scriptural case for nationalism, you know, besides Genesis 11.

Blogger Hammerli280 November 09, 2018 1:26 PM  

I've always been surprised that there are people who can't grasp that some of these people just plain hate us. And would like to see us either in a gulag or dead.

Such people cannot be "reasoned with". Save your arguments for the undecided.

Blogger DonReynolds November 09, 2018 1:29 PM  

David Ray Milton wrote:Vox (or whomever might be able to point me in the right direction), I would love a good read about Christian Nationalism. I’ve read Cuckservative, which negated most of the points in scripture that have led to SJW convergence, but I’m wondering if there is an extant book that addresses a scriptural case for nationalism, you know, besides Genesis 11.

Chaplains in the military have been doing exactly that for much of American history. I am certain they have a library full of field manuals and instructional materials on the intersection of Christian duty and love of country. That is where I would look, with a focus on the older materials from WWII or before.

Blogger tz November 09, 2018 1:31 PM  

Even Stefan Molyneux who is an atheist philosopher but puts truth first has discovered even he has to be a Christian Nationalist if there is to be any hope of his libertarian society.

Liberty, Civility, even things like Due Process and Free Speech are the fruits of Christianity, Greco-Roman-English law and philosophy, in the European Nations.

You can't have the fruits without the tree. And even the Civic Nationalists only think that each axe stroke won't kill or fell the tree and are trying to convince them the fruit is good when it is actually poisonous to SJWs.

The left wants its feminism, hedonism, multiculturalism, etc. The error the Cucks make is that any of that isn't compatible with the Civilization they desire. It can tolerate small cuts but not amputations.

On this 80th anniversary of Krystallnacht, I wrote a denouncement of the complaint that anti-Semitism was the evil. Ok, did the Jews speak out over the destruction of due process? The censorship and book burning? The confiscation of guns? Or did they praise them like too many US Jews are doing today? Nadler and RGB come to mind. So after those who might speak out and defend them were jailed, silence, and disarmed, they quote Neimoller's when they came for the Jews...

They came for the Jews only after they had removed the barriers - Due Process, Free Speech, and Bearing Arms - were all down.

I know Vox disagrees about "Free Speech", but I think I mean something narrower - like civil and rational discussion and debate like between Molyneux, Milo, Probosiec, Chernovich, etc., not profanity, vulgarity, obscenity, pornography, or blasphemy. Interesting that censoring "hate speech" isn't directed at the latter, but they are the containers for feeling and hate is a feeling, not a reason.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey November 09, 2018 1:35 PM  

@Nate
The prosecutors is DC are treating the Tucker attack as a hate crime. That's a good start

This horrific anti-goy hate crime was perpetrated by a howling mob of rabid Communists led by notorious Jewish supremacist terrorist (((Michael Isaacson))) -- not to be confused with the composer of Jewish synagogue music of the same name.

We must stop the hate.
Hate crimes are not free crimes.
(((Communist))) speech is not free speech.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora November 09, 2018 1:35 PM  

@9

Every prophecy that describes the way the world is arranged after the coming of the messiah mentions the existence of separate and sovereign nations. If nationalism was wrong according to Christianity why would Christ allow the world to be so constituted? I think simple logic should suffice. If it doesn't then whoever you are talking to is probably past convincing.

Blogger Wanderer November 09, 2018 1:39 PM  

I think that in the same way cuckservatives ought to stop reasoning with libshits, so too do actual right-wingers need to stop reasoning with cuckservatives. They're just as brainwashed and useless. Cucks, civnats, and leftist whites will all be cannon fodder in the inevitable race war. Worse yet, if you could somehow show them a vision of the future, cucks, civnats, and leftists wouldn't even object to dying at the hands of a feral dindu so long as it means never compromising on Racial Egalitarianism. They would rather martyr themselves for their cuck ideology than fight by your side.

Blogger David Ray Milton November 09, 2018 1:39 PM  

Thank you sir, I will certainly look there. That sounds like a good resource.

Blogger Skyler the Weird November 09, 2018 1:46 PM  

You need a Christian Nationalist like Francisco Franco to lead the Right and hold it together in a struggle against the Communists and AltRetards.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon November 09, 2018 1:52 PM  

"(((Communist))) speech is not free speech."

I remember being at a university book fair and happening upon a stall occupied by two elderly Jewish communists. They had all the left wing literature there: the manifesto, accounts of the international brigade in the Spanish civil war, etc etc.

Upon being asked if I was interested in communism, I replied that we should treat communists even worse than we treat neo-nazis, given the greater number of people killed by communists in the 20th century. Needless to say, the old Jewish lady was not pleased by this. She started arguing the facts, telling me that the death toll of the various communist regimes was just propaganda.

Typical excuses: they were trying to make society better; the death toll was inflated; it wasn't real communism; the bolsheviks didn't persecute people based on race. All incorrect.

Blogger Servant November 09, 2018 1:53 PM  

The book burning the book burning!

Which books were they burning?

Blogger Servant November 09, 2018 2:01 PM  

Double posting but that's hilarious. "Death toll inflated!"

Should be illegal to suggest the death toll of the holodomor is inflated.

Blogger Salt November 09, 2018 2:01 PM  

How does one take on an enemy which cannot be reasoned with when that very enemy is protected against the very methods required? Take this Carlson incident. Antifa was spoiling for a fight. Yet why should even Tucker, had he been home, been required to meet them on even ground? What if he'd simply gone outside and put a 12ga round into one of them? Does one reason with a rabid animal?

The Sworn arm of America is failing to stand up for the Oaths taken, yet a populace stepping in to fill that void is condemned and actively acted against.

Those protections Antifa enjoys need to be removed.

Blogger Chesapean November 09, 2018 2:18 PM  

@9. David Ray Milton

You might start with Augustine on just war theory. Infogalactic has a good article on the subject:

https://infogalactic.com/info/Just_war

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 09, 2018 2:19 PM  

"The Sworn arm of America is failing to stand up for the Oaths taken, yet a populace stepping in to fill that void is condemned and actively acted against. "

Cops need to think about which side they're on, because everyone else is thinking about which side the cops are on. The time is nearing when "I'm loyal to my pension" won't cut it.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener November 09, 2018 2:21 PM  

We need a framework for dealing with mobs that, even if not recognized by law, is generally agreed upon by the right. As a starting point I would propose that, when greatly outnumbered by a group threatening violence, it's morally justifiable to use all force necessary to stop the threat. Further, once a significant number of people within the group begin threatening imminent aggressive acts of violence or actually committing aggressive violence, then anyone who does not immediately disperse from the group is presumed to be a co-conspirator.

Expecting a family to just wait out an angry mob attacking their home is absurdly anti-American.

Blogger Ivan Throne November 09, 2018 2:23 PM  

There comes a point where you look at supposed allies and recognize that they have a death wish and will bring you down with them.

Those espousing the approach of "convincing the Left to listen to our ideas" are suicidal.

Regards,

Ivan

Blogger David Ray Milton November 09, 2018 2:24 PM  

Interesting. I’ve read Augustine, but did not know he wrote about Just War. I thought that originated with Pope Urban. Thanks!

Blogger Azimus November 09, 2018 2:24 PM  

The schooling power must be broken. All of our power should be devoted to wresting the education monopoly from the left. Homeschooling, and skilled trades training is the way. There are probably others, but these seem to be the easiest.

Blogger lowercaseb November 09, 2018 2:29 PM  

That's one of the blessings of Antifa and BLM. They put it in simple terms that the left has no interest in "live and let live" or "co-exist" or any other of the bumper sticker logic we sucked down in the 80s.

Vox says you should value your extremists...I believe that. I am also valuing their extremists as well.

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 09, 2018 2:37 PM  

The best of the conservatives won't let their minds accept the natural consequence of the path we are on. They must shy away because to do otherwise means that they will inevitably become uncivil. We have been taught since grade school that this is the biggest evil. Some people can't see themselves as the target of genocide and that it is a greater evil.

Blogger Jay November 09, 2018 2:52 PM  

From Infogalactic https://infogalactic.com/info/Red_Guards

"Attacks on culture quickly descended into attacks on people. Ignoring guidelines in the 'Sixteen Articles' that stipulated that persuasion rather than force were to be used to bring about the Cultural Revolution, officials in positions of authority and perceived 'bourgeois elements' were denounced and suffered physical and psychological attacks.[12] On August 22, 1966, a central directive was issued to stop police intervention in Red Guard activities.[20] Those in the police force who defied this notice were labeled "counter-revolutionaries." Mao's praise for rebellion was effectively an endorsement for the actions of the Red Guards, which grew increasingly violent.[21]

"Public security in China deteriorated rapidly as a result of central officials lifting restraints on violent behavior.[22] Xie Fuzhi, the national police chief, said it was "no big deal" if Red Guards were beating "bad people" to death.[23]

Blogger Random #57 November 09, 2018 2:52 PM  

@21 Salt:

The Sworn arm of America is failing to stand up for the Oaths taken, yet a populace stepping in to fill that void is condemned and actively acted against.

Those protections Antifa enjoys need to be removed.


That protection goes all the way to the top, as we saw from civic nationalist Trump after Charlottesville. And continuing a theme from before 9/11, our Fatherland Security forces have insisted that whites are a greater threat than the Muslims we import with wild abandon, Antifa barely registers if at all. The FBI could certainly take them down, especially if the reports are true that the West Coast Black Block group have been sent south of the boarder to bust heads.

With the effectively infinite institutional power of the Left, there's no solution that involves force on the table today, unless you claim against all evidence that RWDS can and will spring up and not make the situation worse. I just ordered 4D Warfare, perhaps there are options there that will be effective in the current situation, before we get to full blown civil war, partition of the country, and so on. But I doubt Antifa can be stopped with memes.

Another angle is society turning from r to K due to economic or government fiscal collapse. I would have thought both were being deferred by Trump's very effective economics, but a Democratic House will put an end to further systemic progress, but not actual Main Street progress based on the previous actions. I don't know how the fight over future budgets is going to go, but I'll be really impressed if Trump can lower the annual deficit.

Blogger Gen. Kong November 09, 2018 3:02 PM  

David Ray Milton wrote:

Vox (or whomever might be able to point me in the right direction), I would love a good read about Christian Nationalism. I’ve read Cuckservative, which negated most of the points in scripture that have led to SJW convergence, but I’m wondering if there is an extant book that addresses a scriptural case for nationalism, you know, besides Genesis 11.

You've actually raised a very important point here. If Christian nationalism is the answer, it seems to me that a top priority should be in either establishing a church or joining a church who embraces the concept. Are there any non-converged churches?? The gospel of Galatians seems to have largely replaced the original gospels - even in what some would consider to be 'conservative' churches. In the Anglosphere, there's also the widespread problem of the Judeo-Christian heresy which entered Protestantism thanks to the dispensationalism preached by Darby and Scofield (don't know how widespread this is elsewhere). As a number of comments in the Darkstream mentioned, both Catholic and Lutheran charities (also Methodists and Episcopalians) have been profiteering from the rapefugee-resettlement racket for Musloids and assorted turd-world invaders/parasites funded by the Banana Empire government taxation. An SJW infested "church" involved in something this abominable and evil is unlikely to be reformable in any way. They'll eventually end up as an open witches' coven. Are there churches which can be purged of the rot?? Seems we'll have to start from the ground up in many cases. It's very important though.

Blogger Salt November 09, 2018 3:02 PM  

@24 Why hamstring yourself?

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener November 09, 2018 3:12 PM  

@Salt

Would you mind explain how you see this as a hamstring?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 09, 2018 3:16 PM  

@24, Antifa violence seems like a great opportunity to push our several legislatures to pass Texas-style self defence laws.

Blogger pyrrhus November 09, 2018 3:22 PM  

I have finally accepted that the demon rats will stop at nothing, including their own destruction, to destroy America...It's all coming down, and I have been making appropriate preparations...I would ask God to have mercy on all of us, but I don't think most of us deserve it.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener November 09, 2018 3:29 PM  

The updated standards of criminal culpability in Texas do sound good but I'm not sure how they're actually being interpreted and applied. It's quite often a mistake to assume that the judicial system interprets the statutes in the same manner that any logical person would do.

As I read it, every member of a mob that is encouraging a criminal act becomes criminally responsible once that act has been committed. But in reality, if one Antifa member is kicking down my door while 40 more are egging him on, and I mow them all down before they can disperse, is the local prosecutor going to say, "Nice shooting, let's hurry up and no bill this guy!" Probably not.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 09, 2018 3:32 PM  

For most of us, upgrading the laws will be a necessary first step.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother November 09, 2018 3:39 PM  

Nine have just been arrested in South Texas for voter fraud. Five bucks for the best guess on the letter most of the names end in.

Blogger Crew November 09, 2018 3:40 PM  

I think I understand now why the Democrats fought so hard against Kavanaugh.

They knew there was going to be cheating during the midterms and expected court cases, but with the SC hung 4-4 they would get away with it.

That explains all the angst on the part of the Democrats when Kavanaugh was confirmed.

Blogger Salt November 09, 2018 3:46 PM  

Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:Would you mind explain how you see this as a hamstring?

We need a framework for dealing with mobs that... is generally agreed upon by the right.

Do you want to hold a convention or something? I'd bet we agree on what's agreeable though if the impediments to what's necessary were removed.



Blogger #6277 Hammer November 09, 2018 3:51 PM  

@21 Salt:

"...yet a populace stepping in to fill that void is condemned and actively acted against."

Speaking of St Augustine- "An unjust law is no law at all."

Blogger Wanderer November 09, 2018 3:52 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:Are there any non-converged churches??
Any church that's considered a hate movement by the SPLC and/or ADL.

If you want something normie-friendly and don't care about doctrine then there's the Orthodox branch, but their nationalism is specific to various Eastern European ethnicities. I'm sure they'd welcome any young convert, but be prepared to be the odd one out.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 4:00 PM  

Christian nationalism. That's what we're seeing rising in Europe

Wait, what? Where?

No, there's a slight uptick in 'Judaeo-Christianity', which is something else entirely that has nothing to do with religion.

Christianity is dead as the dodo. You might wish yourself back to the glory days before WWI, but you can't force faith on people or on yourself.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 09, 2018 4:02 PM  

"... you can't force faith on people or on yourself."

God, however, can do miracles.

Blogger Salt November 09, 2018 4:02 PM  

#6277 Hammer wrote:Speaking of St Augustine- "An unjust law is no law at all."

There's also a Maxim which says that a law unenforced may be ignored. Is it any wonder Antifa seems to operate with impunity?

Blogger Halvar Andersen November 09, 2018 4:06 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:An SJW infested "church" involved in something this abominable and evil is unlikely to be reformable in any way. They'll eventually end up as an open witches' coven.

Too late on the witches' coven thing. Lutheran "pastor" here for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRm8AEc4yV8

I saw in another thread that you moved back to the US recently. Having been away for over a decade myself, I was wondering if you have more to say about how the changes have struck you since your return.

Blogger Stilicho November 09, 2018 4:13 PM  

By the way, let me be the first to congratulate the Kurgan on the appointment of his doppelganger to the post of Acting Attorney General.

Blogger #6277 Hammer November 09, 2018 4:14 PM  

@Salt "There's also a Maxim which says that a law unenforced may be ignored. Is it any wonder Antifa seems to operate with impunity?"
Correct. A few years ago, probably around the time of Castalia publishing On War, Vox had a post on 4GW and governments losing legitimacy.
Now we see it happening in the US in realtime.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 4:16 PM  

#45
Well, I'm surprised He doesn't perform a few, then, because His flock is sorely in need of them.

The guy is omnipotent, right? Is mile-high, flaming letters accompanied by a choir of angels and cherubs too much to ask for?

Blogger Haxo Angmark November 09, 2018 4:19 PM  

yes, the parallel with Spain 1936ff. is instructive. With one critical dif:

in Spain, the military that launched the Uprising against the Red "Republic" was itself hardRight AND had a dynamic leader: Franco.

but in 'Murka, the SJW'd military (and police)will be almost entirely - at least to begin with - on the side of the (((Red))) "Republic".

we can still win, but will likely have to take heavy initial losses in territory and population.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 09, 2018 4:22 PM  

@44

"Christianity is dead as the dodo. You might wish yourself back to the glory days before WWI, but you can't force faith on people or on yourself."

Yes you can. You sub-human atheists do it literally ALL THE TIME, to great effect even!

Also, another atheist liar. Thanks for playing up to the least trusted religious group in the world, cockroach.

Blogger Halvar Andersen November 09, 2018 4:24 PM  

Felix Krull wrote:#45

Well, I'm surprised He doesn't perform a few, then, because His flock is sorely in need of them.

The guy is omnipotent, right? Is mile-high, flaming letters accompanied by a choir of angels and cherubs too much to ask for?


Has the existence of the God-Emperor somehow evaded your notice?

Blogger Damelon Brinn November 09, 2018 4:30 PM  

Is [blah blah blah] too much to ask for?

Yes, by definition.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 4:32 PM  

Has the existence of the God-Emperor somehow evaded your notice?

If The Orange Savior really stops mass immigration, I'll be ready to consider that something akin to divine intervention, but until then, he's just another politician, possibly even managed opposition. You don't spend a lifetime in NY real estate without chumming with a lot of bankers.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 09, 2018 4:35 PM  

@55 It is a common opinion in some cirlces that we are being punished, for allowing fools like you to live.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 09, 2018 4:38 PM  

@55

Wow. Talk about a microwave generation mindset. If lefties going back to the French revolution had this attitude, they would have been stuck trying to storm the Bastille let alone get people into the mental dissonance required for thinking fags are real people or that racial supremacist groups like Black Panther and La Raza stand for equality rather than kill whitey.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 4:50 PM  

#57
Just suggesting you might be taken for a ride by Trump. Americans are in some respects very naive, politically, probably because you have this system designed for children, where you avoid confusion by only giving voters two parties to choose from.

But then, maybe you don't have a choice, you have to believe Trump because there's no Plan B for America. If Trump fails, you're suddenly left with a Congress full of shitlibs and RINOs, and a brown wave snuffing out any hope that America will ever be a civilized country again.

If Matteo Salvini, Marine le Pen or Jimmie Aakesson fails, the baton is carried by their parties, steadily building a power base in parliament.

Blogger Robert Browning November 09, 2018 4:51 PM  

Antifa does not recognize or realize they are fight for the destruction of Christianity. Tell them. They need to know the goals ans ambitions of their leaders and organizers.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 09, 2018 5:21 PM  

"Antifa does not recognize or realize they are fight for the destruction of Christianity."

Why do you imagine that to be the case?

This is exactly the sort of suicidal insanity Vox was warning against.

Blogger Crew November 09, 2018 5:30 PM  

Americans are in some respects very naive, politically, probably because you have this system designed for children, where you avoid confusion by only giving voters two parties to choose from.

Isn't the problem really representational democracy?

In representational democracy you only have to subvert/buy a limited number of people.

In direct democracy you have to subvert/buy 50% + 1 or 66% depending on the constitution.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine November 09, 2018 5:41 PM  

Felix, you haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about in any regard.

I'm going to enjoy watching you get ripped to bloody shreds when you fail to show the self-awareness to git while the getting's good.

Blogger Stilicho November 09, 2018 5:43 PM  

@58 Felix, we were taken for a ride by Bush and the Neocons, Trump is the result. If Trump were to betray us, the replacement will make the enemy pine for the good old days under Trump the way they pine for Bush et al. today.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 5:43 PM  

+61
In representational democracy you only have to subvert/buy a limited number of people.

That's part of the problem, but it's easier to subvert two parties than eight or ten.

Mind you, parties are still being subverted in multiparty systems. In Denmark, they subverted the Danish People's Party just as they were voted within striking range of power after twenty years of struggle. That's one of the reasons I reserve my judgement on Trump until I see if he delivers on immigration.

As for direct democracy, there's a better model; bear with some copypasta, because you happened to step on a hobby horse of mine:

1) You establish a website where members can vote for items on the EP agenda.

2) You let every member pick a party affiliation.

3) So on every item, your vote on the website will be cast automatically, according to the party affiliation you've chosen.

4) But at any time, members may choose to vote manually. That way, individual members don't have to vote on everything, only on issues where they disagree with the party they chose.

5) Then the result from the website is transferred proportionally to your MEP seats, i.e. if there's a 40-60% split, your seats also vote 40-60.

That way, you could offer prospective voters the appealing, non-political option of effectively voting for the party they're used to, but retain a right to withdraw or extend that vote at any time, a kind of veto.

So this is what it would look like: Congress will propose some anti-American legislation, and under normal circumstances they'll have the vote stitched up before they even take it to the floor, but with Krullocracy, they'll be blocked by a sudden surge of individual voting in the Krull Party, their favourite Youtubers having alerted them to the danger.

The next level is letting anyone you trust manage your vote, either in general or on specific issues. Suppose I'm a liberal, so I give my voting right to a liberal party. But that party is also pro white genocide and pro windmills. So on these two issues, my vote is managed by subsidiary parties or individuals.

That would circumvent the traditional party structures, distributing power such that if you wanted to buy a vote in Congress, you'd have to bribe hundreds of thousands of people.

And here's the kicker: your Krullokrat Kongress Kritters don't actually do anything except press the buttons their computer tells them to, so you could draw lot for the seats (and the gravy) between party members. That should swell the ranks.

Blogger The Greay Man November 09, 2018 5:44 PM  

Is Felix incapable of realizing Trump can do good without fixing the problem?

Is Felix a retard?

Maybe Felix likes Andrew Anglin.

News at six tonight: Felix has an IQ of 89.

Blogger Robert Browning November 09, 2018 5:46 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:"Antifa does not recognize or realize they are fight for the destruction of Christianity."

Why do you imagine that to be the case?

This is exactly the sort of suicidal insanity Vox was warning against.



They are a bunch of young kids. That have been and are being led astray. And they are unaware of the goal of their leaders. If antifa underlings were to know the motivations of their leaders, there would be no antifa. Such is the power of Christ. The Power of Christ is the power to disarm and defeat ones enemies with nothing more than truth.

Blogger Damelon Brinn November 09, 2018 5:49 PM  

They are a bunch of young kids. That have been and are being led astray.

That's nonsense, but if you believe it, you go tell them. Wear a helmet.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother November 09, 2018 5:51 PM  

COME ON GUYS IF WE JUST EXPLAIN TO ANTIFA GOODER...

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 5:54 PM  

#63
If Trump were to betray us, the replacement will make the enemy pine for the good old days under Trump the way they pine for Bush et al. today.

You're talking about muh guns now? How you're going to rise up, grab your AR-15s and your Barret 50s and do battle with the AH-64s and A-10s?

Well, you're right about one thing: if Trump is managed opposition, there are no democratic solutions left for heritage America. My problem with your insinuated scenario is that I haven't seen much cowboying coming from America. The Messicans took back California without a shot being fired, and if the militias didn't convene when you had a gender-fluid, race-baiting, terrorist-hugging, white-hating, closet-Mohammadan from Kenya, I doubt it's going to happen just because Trump fails on the wall or Texas goes the way of California.

Guns are a comfort blanket, allowing you to believe all is well as long as you have your guns to fondle at night, and can barricade yourself in your home and passively await the arrival of the barbarians at your doorstep.

Blogger Mark Stoval November 09, 2018 5:54 PM  

I have often thought that if one starts at the point of Wilson being elected president and asked 'what should you do to destroy the West' then I could not think of much more than what has happened since.

The decent people have had a few victories along the way. Not many, but a few.

Overall, Satan has been wining big time. Think of 1913, and then think of 2013. One hundred years to near total destruction.

If mankind is to restore the West, we best be doing it now. There is no time to waste.

Blogger Gen. Kong November 09, 2018 5:57 PM  

Haxo Angmark wrote:

yes, the parallel with Spain 1936ff. is instructive. With one critical dif:

in Spain, the military that launched the Uprising against the Red "Republic" was itself hardRight AND had a dynamic leader: Franco.

but in 'Murka, the SJW'd military (and police)will be almost entirely - at least to begin with - on the side of the (((Red))) "Republic".

we can still win, but will likely have to take heavy initial losses in territory and population.


That's a fair point. The badge-gang likely will mostly side with the reds here in Bananaland, the military is somewhat more of a mixed-bag (but not by much). I think some elements of them will side with the right, but many are still stuck in the civic-nationalist magic-dirt utopianism and Judeo-Christianity (which is not Christianity at all). The outbreak of open warfare might push a number of them off the fence. Others will simply go criminal. The Spanish analogy is good but my own sense is that it will be a mixture of the US civil war in Kansas and Missouri (total lawlessness and criminality plus random violence), Latin America (death squads), and the Balkans (multiple sides, shifting alliances), plus dindu savagery as seen in places like Rwanda and South Africa. Extremely ugly, in other words.

I saw in another thread that you moved back to the US recently. Having been away for over a decade myself, I was wondering if you have more to say about how the changes have struck you since your return.

I was only on an extended trip abroad to Asia, which was delightfully free of dindus and assorted barbarians by and large. The Chinese are pretty outgoing, while Japanese are more reserved. Both places have their numerous quirks of course, but one could walk the streets in Shanghai or Kobe at night. Something one would never dare to do unarmed even in a much smaller Murikan city. Landed back in Bananaland at VD's hometown airport (Minneapolis) and was immediately struck by the large numbers of Somalians mindlessly wandering about all over the place - including in several places where one could suddenly start vibrating and inflict all sorts of mayhem. The most telling scene was in the gate waiting for a plane to the final destination where there was a Somalian in US Army uniform being thanked for his service by a line of obsequious fawning hwyte cucks - fucking morons. He wasn't serving them or anything they think he was serving. He was serving either Allah or the whims of the ruling criminal overlords - which both amount to serving the same thing: Satan. It doesn't take a rocket-scientist to guess which side he'll be taking when the shooting starts....

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 6:05 PM  

Is Felix incapable of realizing Trump can do good without fixing the problem?

Felix believes that demography is destiny, and that there's only one real political issue in the Western world these days. Communism can be rolled back, immigration, not so much.

Blogger Crew November 09, 2018 6:11 PM  

Communism can be rolled back, immigration, not so much.

There were some sizable population transfers at the end of WWII.

It will happen again.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 6:17 PM  

#73
Perhaps. We're heading into uncharted territory.

Blogger eclecticme November 09, 2018 6:30 PM  

Totally OT but I just finished reading The Last Closet. Excellent read. In case anyone here needs an introduction to the story, here is a link.
https://askthebigot.com/2015/07/23/the-story-of-moira-greyland-guest-post/

Blogger Random #57 November 09, 2018 6:30 PM  

@69 Felix Krull:

#63
If Trump were to betray us, the replacement will make the enemy pine for the good old days under Trump the way they pine for Bush et al. today.

You're talking about muh guns now? How you're going to rise up, grab your AR-15s and your Barret 50s and do battle with the AH-64s and A-10s?


More like we'd do battle with the people who maintain those complex weapons, supply their spare parts, their families, and so on. You're just postulating the usual idiotic strawman where the Right does something guaranteed to fail, because you clearly believe we've failed, and are destined to always fail. It might be true for cuckservatives, will obviously be true for those who stay as such, but in the end, as we're discussing in this very topic, they don't matter for much at all.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 6:36 PM  

#76 Random #57
More like we'd do battle with the people who maintain those complex weapons, supply their spare parts, their families, and so on.

I've had this conversation before, so let me try to see if I can guess where this goes: you're not actually going to threaten the soldiers to hand over the gunships, you're going to reason with them, appeal to their patriotism and so forth.

Right?

If that is so, what's the purpose of the militia in the first place? If the battle plan is to get the military on your side, how would your guns help you with that? And if you have the military on you side, your popguns and your weekend warriors aren't going to make much of a difference.

Blogger The Greay Man November 09, 2018 6:54 PM  

Felix has confirmed that he is a retard.

Now, over / under on IQ of 89?

Blogger pyrrhus November 09, 2018 6:56 PM  

O/T Ginsburg is resigning, effective Jan.1!!!! Cancer has returned.

Blogger pyrrhus November 09, 2018 6:57 PM  

Can't find a report on that, however, yet.

Blogger eclecticme November 09, 2018 7:00 PM  

47. Halvar Andersen November 09, 2018 4:06 PM
...
Too late on the witches' coven thing. Lutheran "pastor" here for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRm8AEc4yV8

That video above cannot be unseen. I just finished reading The Last Closet. The SJW pseudo pastor above and the sexual ideology described in the book are two turds in the same toliet.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 7:03 PM  

@12

"
The left wants its feminism, hedonism, multiculturalism, etc. The error the Cucks make is that any of that isn't compatible with the Civilization they desire. It can tolerate small cuts but not amputations."


No, we cannot tolerate a multitude of small cuts.


https://ok.ru/video/603344865934

Start at time 1:24:00 for context.

The Chinese man being chased at 1:24:48 is the newly-promoted head of the Chinese engine-room gang (allowed to work as contractors in the engine room so that more sailors can be topside to man rifles in moments of conflict).

Notice that after the Chinese guy is captured by a contingent of Bolsheviks, and strung up for Death by A Thousand Cuts... at 1:24:10

The scene is ended when Petty Officer Holman, the chief engineer relieves the coolie of his misery and prolonged death.

[Contextual Note -- the time period depicted is near the end of the Warlord Era as it's turning into the Chinese Civil War between the Bolsheviks lead by Mao Tse-Tung and the Nationalists following Chang Kai-Shek. The U.S. is officially neutral, and the river gunboats, such as the San Pablo here, have been ordered to not fire, EVEN IF fired upon]

Blogger SmockMan November 09, 2018 7:03 PM  

@3

Here is the dogstream, she makes her appearance in first 3 mins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvcXcxx2A_4

stream.me did not archive this video or the 2 latest videos.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 7:33 PM  

@23

"Cops need to think about which side they're on, because everyone else is thinking about which side the cops are on. The time is nearing when "I'm loyal to my pension" won't cut it. "

I was talking to a young police officer recently, and advised him that the country is destined for a civil war, and once it gets hot, BOTH sides will be shooting at any man in an LEO uniform, and so he had better plan, and behave, accordingly. Get out of the "policeman's shell" zone, and socialize with neighbors and other people who aren't police, because he's going to need friends outside of the police when it all boils over.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 7:39 PM  

@24

"Further, once a significant number of people within the group begin threatening imminent aggressive acts of violence or actually committing aggressive violence, then anyone who does not immediately disperse from the group is presumed to be a co-conspirator."

And in that evaluation, even Mao Tse-Tung would agree -- the revolutionary moves through the people as a fish through water. If the people ("innocent members", har har, of the mob) disperse, then the violent revolutionary is as exposed as a fish laying on the beach.

Blogger Crew November 09, 2018 7:55 PM  

@79: Come back when that is confirmed and then we can celebrate.

Blogger Ingot9455 November 09, 2018 7:56 PM  

@79 At the moment, the Ginsburg resignation is just a rumor. I've been hearing it but no actual newspaper has reported it. I would love for you to prove me wrong.
One of the clues is that the rumors say 'melanoma' but Ginsburg didn't have a melanoma.

Blogger Crew November 09, 2018 7:56 PM  

@84: Yeah, the blue uniform gang would be an obvious target during CWII.

Blogger pyrrhus November 09, 2018 8:10 PM  

@87 I heard it from a source that's usually reliable, but I can't confirm it either.

Blogger The Kurgan November 09, 2018 8:16 PM  

VD, a corollary to your point of using all the available weapons/muscle groups is, in my opinion, to purge from your core all moderates.
I know you disagree to some extent or other, but just like tolerating alt-retard is a mistake, so is allowing nebulous cretins in your ranks.

Admittedly you probably think in grander strategic terms and I in more regionalmtactical ones, but one needs his special forces of purity that burn all heretics too.

Blogger tz November 09, 2018 8:37 PM  

@82 - I said a FEW small cuts, as you might get when doing anyting useful with your hands in the workshop or garden, not the death of 1000 cuts.

You might get a few stings while removing a hornets' nest. But you don't leave it or let yourself be stung dozens of times

Blogger VD November 09, 2018 8:50 PM  

There's a better model; bear with some copypasta, because you happened to step on a hobby horse of mine

You don't say. Heaven save us from Sekret Kings.

if Trump is managed opposition, there are no democratic solutions left for heritage America

There are none left in any case. I pointed that out in 2004. You can't fix a corpse.

Blogger VD November 09, 2018 8:52 PM  

VD, a corollary to your point of using all the available weapons/muscle groups is, in my opinion, to purge from your core all moderates.

As always, your focus is entirely tactical. The lesson of history is that strategically, extremists cannot win without the passive assistance of the moderates. Moderates cannot win without the active assistance of the extremists.

They play very different roles.

Blogger Dire Badger November 09, 2018 9:00 PM  

I believe it was Lenin who stated, "The people who cast the votes don't decide an election... the people who count the votes do."

Electronic voting would simply add more avenues for fraud and deceit. Voting, itself, is a pretty bad idea that only works on a tiny, tightly-controlled scale. As Broward county can prove, even on that scale it is incredibly vulnerable.
And add to that the fact that politicians can vote their own salaries, bums can vote their own subsidies, and identities can vote their own padding. To hell with the rest.


No. The only way for a vote to 'work' is to tightly control WHO votes with a self-selection process that proves their competence and ability. Which means basically nobody, in the end, is qualified to vote.


If you can come up with such a system, good luck. I'd rather trust in a proven leader and screw the whole democratic process.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 9:04 PM  

Heaven save us from Sekret Kings.

Just giving you a recipe for swamp drainage that doesn't necessarily involve rope and lamp posts. You could do to politics what Youtube did to cable, all within the broad rules of the Constitution.

I'm not saying it's a good idea, I'm saying you could nuke the swamp if you wanted.

Blogger Jack Amok November 09, 2018 9:10 PM  

In representational democracy you only have to subvert/buy a limited number of people.

In direct democracy you have to subvert/buy 50% + 1 or 66% depending on the constitution.


The basic problem with any democracy with universal suffrage (especially women's suffrage) is that votes have the authority but not the accountability. They vote for what they want, then go on with their lives.

So you have this inherent problem that the people with the authority to choose (the voters) simply cannot be held accountable for their mistakes, because... how does the 49% hold the 51% accountable for mistakes? You can't within the system, so it relies on people holding themselves accountable for getting it wrong. Some people are capable of doing that, but most are not.

So by definition, universal franchise means unaccountable power.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 9:12 PM  

@50

"The guy is omnipotent, right? Is mile-high, flaming letters accompanied by a choir of angels and cherubs too much to ask for?"

When the conditions call for it.

I heard some missionaries who were home for a short bit, and reporting to the churches who support them. One night several years back, the mission, which is also their home, was surrounded by angry, and armed villager tribesmen. They had formed a loose circle a few hundred meters in diameter, pounding on drums, and gradually closing the circle. The whole family was trapped. But for some reason, the building and its occupants were never attacked. It would be some time later that they found out why.
They then continued narrating a presentation of a lot of photographs they had taken. They pointed out one of the local leaders who they were grooming to eventually lead the church.
This man was one of the armed men who had surrounded that church that night. He told them, that the reason they never approached any closer was that as they started to close in on the mission building... the building was suddenly surrounded by what he described as "flaming lions" and ever many became afraid to take even one more step forward. That night is what convinved him, several weeks later, to come to the mission in the day time, and find out what the source of such power could be.

The theme is solid throughout all the books of the bible... God rarely shows his power to those who oppose him, except to protect those who follow him.

Your wish for mile high flaming letters just doesn't cut it. God has never wanted that people worship him on a "I'm intimidating you into it with a direct message to worship me or else" -- if that is all he wanted, the angels would be more than sufficient. Humans were given free will, including the ability to NOT follow him, for the satisfaction of us seeking him out from and with our own free will, NOT due to decisions made under duress.

And yes, the man who came to the missionaries was not acting under duress -- the flaming lions were to keep him and his friends away that night, not draw him closer.

Blogger Jack Amok November 09, 2018 9:12 PM  

The Broward County Vote Packing Plant has been ordered to open itself up for inspection. Too late? Or in time?

Blogger LP999-16 November 09, 2018 9:17 PM  

Who knows more, whom served Jack or Matt, Jack did -

Matt Y erased his tweets, Bro tweets are archived.

CNN has lost; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4qGtEiEh4A

This is a fabulous POTUS, I could not be happier however Jimmy needs some help, he did touch but not assault a WH assistant - Acosta has a history just like other SJW and haters of the POTUS of rudeness and intended unkindness.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 9:18 PM  

#97
African tribespersons regularly see demons summoned by sorcerers. Does that mean sorcery is real? I had a girlfriend who claimed she had seen a ghost. Are ghosts real?

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 9:23 PM  

@51

"but in 'Murka, the SJW'd military (and police)will be almost entirely - at least to begin with - on the side of the (((Red))) "Republic".

we can still win, but will likely have to take heavy initial losses in territory and population. "

In nearly every country, overthrows of the government are primarily executed by Colonels. Khaddaffi being a memorable example. The promotion to General is always infused with politics that don't happen at the LtCol -> Col sphere or promotions. In our military, commissioned officers are sworn to the officers appionted above them, and the Constitution, but not the President. The senior officer in each service owes allegience to no man, only the Constitution itself.

As for the enlisted, there is quite a lot of patriotism even in the rear-echelon combat service support units. And by patriotism, I mean support for the Nation as opposed to the government.

Not only that, but 2/3 of the combat power is in the state-controlled National Guard....who, in a civil war, has little need for most of the Combat Service Support units anyway -- such services can always be provided by friendly civilians in a civil war.

The real force multipliers are SF -- they are trained to recruit and turn civilians into irregular militia... EFFECTIVE irregular militia.
Also, each one, has written an essay on how, if needed, he would organize and execute overthrowing the U.S. government. Therefore, the US Army has made sure that every SF soldier has thought through such a scenario.

Blogger Crew November 09, 2018 9:23 PM  

@96: Well, they are accountable in that they have to live with the results of their votes.

Now, I am not sure that female suffrage was a good idea. Would you support AI suffrage?

See, for example a novel called QUANTUM MORTIS: A Man Disrupted.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 9:28 PM  

@55

"If The Orange Savior really stops mass immigration, I'll be ready to consider that something akin to divine intervention, but until then, he's just another politician, possibly even managed opposition. You don't spend a lifetime in NY real estate without chumming with a lot of bankers."

Let me tell you something about what is part of the training for all Mossad agents:

Take a situation in which you and a foreign contact, say Jean, are sitting on a bench in the park. Just because Jean is sitting there with his friend doesn't mean that you are sitting there with YOUR friend.

Similarly, just because Trump is hanging around with a bunch of bankers out of business necessity doesn't mean that he considers them, for even a moment, to be his friend. In fact, the moment he has spent the money lent to him, they become his adversary.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 9:35 PM  

@58

"Just suggesting you might be taken for a ride by Trump. Americans are in some respects very naive, politically, probably because you have this system designed for children, where you avoid confusion by only giving voters two parties to choose from."

Bzzzt! Wrong. The "Two Party System" is due to the nature of American Federal and State Constitutions, and likewise most City Charters.
They are all formed from nearly the same mold. That mold being one which assigns representative seats to geographically defined districts, as opposed to percentage overall votes for a named faction, such as in some parliamentary systems.
3rd Parties only gather momentum in those cities in which the city council seats are all "at large" voting. Most large cities have a "district" or "ward" system, with each seat of the city council assigned to a neighborhood.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 9:39 PM  

@64

"That's part of the problem, but it's easier to subvert two parties than eight or ten.

Mind you, parties are still being subverted in multiparty systems."

Wrong. It's far cheaper to subvert 8 to 10 little parties in a multi-party system, because it's VERY hard for any of them to get 50% of the seats -- therefore, coalition politics runs everything. ALL of them are scrambling for every penny they can get, all the time, which makes it easy to buy them off, individually.... and at a very low price when prorated for the number of people who follow them.

In any event, in the U.S., parties aren't subverted, individual candidates... and for the same reason -- IT'S CHEAPER. And it's also easier to keep it under the radar.

Blogger Up from the pond November 09, 2018 9:41 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:universal franchise means unaccountable power.

As someone once said, "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on what's for dinner."

Blogger Jack Amok November 09, 2018 9:41 PM  

Well, they are accountable in that they have to live with the results of their votes.

But in their on minds that's someone else's fault, so they never learn to do better, and never voluntarily recuse themselves from the next decision.

Now, I am not sure that female suffrage was a good idea. Would you support AI suffrage?

No votes for NPCs.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 9:56 PM  

Bzzzt! Wrong. The "Two Party System" is due to the nature of American Federal and blablabla.

Thanks for the lecture, but that's irrelevant. Whatever the reason, it's a two-party system, making it almost inevitable that politics is framed in dichotomy; good guy, bad guy. And since Hillary is Antichrist, logically Trump must be the Savior.

just because Trump is hanging around with a bunch of bankers out of business necessity doesn't mean that he considers them, for even a moment, to be his friend.

And I didn't actually write that. I suggested that Trump might be controlled opposition. I'm not trying to be cagey, there are a lot of things indicating he could be for real, but I've seen many apparently authentic politicians turn out to be lizards in wolves' clothes.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 10:10 PM  

@66

"They are a bunch of young kids. That have been and are being led astray. And they are unaware of the goal of their leaders. If antifa underlings were to know the motivations of their leaders, there would be no antifa. Such is the power of Christ. The Power of Christ is the power to disarm and defeat ones enemies with nothing more than truth."

ANTIFA reminds me of the Vietnam War protest movement in some ways:

1) It's cool to "stand up to the man", man.
2) Virtue signalling as a way to get into some jelly-brained college co-eds panties.

However, there are some distinct differences:

1) The Vietnam protest was about (probably) needless American deaths
2) The Vietnam protesters had a significant number of combat veterans within their ranks
3) They didn't have to hide their faces for fear of violent retribution from their neighbors.
4) The average college co-ed isn't worthy making ANY sacrifice to get into her 45-inch waist panties.

So, basically, the Vietnam War protesters were composed of A) those fearing personal death in war or B) had already survived their 1-year tour in the war or C) had a very stable moral base for opposing the needless deaths of friends (and most kids of that age personally knew at least one guy who had been killed in Vietnam(*), or a child whose father had been killed there.

What ended the Vietnam war protest movement?
By the time it came to an abrupt halt, the Vietnam war protest movement was not merely rioting, disrupting university administrative offices with "sit-ins" (the connection to how such things would "end the war" has never been explained), committing arson, primarily burning down government buildings, setting off bombs, and the leadership was hoping to ratchet it up further into general violence which the authorities cannot handle.

Then it all ended in the space of hours.

4 people were killed.... and not one of them was even a protester, but merely students who happened to be in the vicinity at the time the shots were fired.

That's all it took, and overwhelming majority of guys in the movement suddenly decided that whatever they were protesting, it wasn't worth risking their lives getting shot dead HERE, within miles of where they live, as opposed to MAYBE getting drafted and MAYBE ending up in the infantry or as a combat medic and MAYBE getting shot there. And getting shot in the middle of University Square sure wasn't a worthwhile risk just go get into Suzy Creamcheeselegs' and Sally Peanutbutterlegs' panties(**).


So... once some governor gets a backbone, and puts out the National Guard against ANTIFA ... and unlike the Vietnam War era National Guard, there are a LOT of combat vets in the guard, and this will remain true for at least another 5 years or so. They won't be "aiming high" with armed, masked maniacs in front of them, like the Ohio NG troops did when facing a bunch of hippies, most of whom carried either nothing, or flowers.

After Kent State, even the hardened combat bets left the war protest movement almost immediately.

ANTIFA doesn't have nearly the backbone morally, psychologically, or even in terms of sexual rewards that the average Vietnam war protester had.


(*) my mom's yearbooks have notations of the schoolmates who were later killed there. One in particular is a photo of a member of the diving team as he's descending towards the pool, with an arrow pointing at him and the penned in notation <-- died in Vietnam. And she was NOT a war protester).

(**) For those who don't get it. Cream cheese is a "spread"

Blogger Hezekiah Garrett November 09, 2018 10:19 PM  

Santa Monica Observer published it today. Granted, that is a notoriously inaccurate free local paper, so meaningless. But it is a newspaper, and they did publish it, citing an unnamed clerk of RBG as source.

I only know this because when I read it here earlier today, I hit Google. Except the SMO, I got bupkis.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 10:24 PM  

@69

"You're talking about muh guns now? How you're going to rise up, grab your AR-15s and your Barret 50s and do battle with the AH-64s and A-10s?"

You mean the A-10's and AH-64's being manned by aircrews who hate ANTIFA just as much as we do?

You don't understand the American serviceman. He doesn't think nearly as much of his government officials as he does his neighbors, and the founding principles of the country. Even army officers will freely and openly disparage any politician who they are not required to show courtesy to (NG: state governor, Lt. Governor, Federal Secretary of the Army, Federal Sec. of Defense, Vice President, and the President. Those are the ONLY political figures who are protected from being disparaged by a military officer while that officer is either on duty or in uniform. Enlisted men and NCOs don't even have THOSE restrictions. The lowest private can complain about the President without risking the slightest backlash.

Obama ginned up the appearance of support, because his generals would order their subordinate units to report to some gymnasium, and sit in the bleachers, and then Obama would come out for a photo-op with troopos behind him. But other than the photos were hand-picked troops were standing with him and told to smile, the rest of the photos, the ones showing Obama, with an audience of troops in the background. Look at their faces ... very few look happy to have interrupted their duty day to listen to that asshat. Even many black soldiers.
Contrast that with Trump. When he appears before the troops, they practically mob him. The troops in the background are grinning from ear to ear.
The troops know a leader who is blowing smoke up their ass and they know a leader who genuinely supports them. Obama is, and always has been, a smoke blower. Trump, just like Bush Jr, genuinely loves the troops (although I can't say that for the father).

Therein lies the difference.

Blogger DonReynolds November 09, 2018 10:31 PM  

There seems to be some confusion between the European parliamentary system and the American system of government.

Parliaments are controlled (50%+) by the members of a party or a coalition of parties, which selects the ministers that direct the government. This is much like the Whig tradition, where the legislative body has much of the power and the executive is relatively weak. In fact, the citizens do not actually elect anybody at all, they vote for a party. The individual candidates stand for the party. The prime minister is not elected by the electorate, but selected to lead the government by his party (with a nod from the monarchy).

In the parliamentary system, the parties are necessarily ideological. The party has a position or policy on a good many things and the members of the same party are expected to be loyal and faithful to the party credo. Seems simple enough.

This is very different from the American system. When Americans vote, they have no particular obligation to the party nor does it give the party any rights or privileges of any significance. Political parties are not even mentioned in the Constitution. The candidate is usually an individual, and they hold office as an individual, with little obligation to the party (in the least). The party is only significant to the extent that individual office holders act or move together as a member of that party, but it is not unusual for some of the politicians belonging to the same party to reject or bolt from the party, without leaving it. Some have even switched parties or declared themselves independent of all parties without having to resign the office they were elected to. (Bernie, Bloomberg, and Lieberman are examples.)

Now for the big surprise for Europeans. In the USA, contrary to popular themes, the political parties are NOT ideological. They may appear ideological at times but this is only the result of ideological debate WITHIN the political party. Ideology is a matter resolved within each party from one election to the next. The most conservative party in the USA was usually the Democrat party during my early adult life, since then the Republican party has tended to be the more conservative. This does not mean that the parties have changed their beliefs. It means that the same conservative politicians have moved over to the other party. It does not happen very often, but it does happen. The same political party can have a wide disparity of political viewpoints. The same Democrat party that gave us Lyndon Johnson, George McGovern and Jimmy Carter, was also the party of the Dixiecrats, George Wallace, and Huey Long. In the American system, the ideological debates take place within the parties, not between the parties. It is entirely coincidental when the two major parties end up with much the same ideological position.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 10:32 PM  

You don't understand the American serviceman.

And you didn't read my follow-up post.

If you've got the servicemen on your side, what need is there for a militia?

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 10:36 PM  

@74

> @73
>> There were some sizable population transfers at the end of WWII.

>>It will happen again.

> Perhaps. We're heading into uncharted territory.

No outside nation (of which many were more powerful) stuck their nose in the first civil war, which was cleanly defined, and many had good economic reasons to lend boots-on-the-ground support transported with armed naval escorts to the Confederacy.

Today, few countries have a sizeable military force to match ours in both strength and numbers (especially with recent combat experience) AND the transport capacity and naval power to even get them here by ship, or the ability to refuel fighter escorts for trans-oceanic flights OR even 1 operational aircraft carrier.

And the cost of a country sticking its nose into our civil war to aid one side would likely be the other side sending a volley of nukes at the offending country's capital and select other locations (like air and/or sea ports). The left's wet dream of importing Chinese troops is just that... a dream.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 10:45 PM  

@100
"African tribespersons regularly see demons summoned by sorcerers. Does that mean sorcery is real? I had a girlfriend who claimed she had seen a ghost. Are ghosts real?"

A truly wise man, especially one who understands physics down to the subatomic level, would not rule out either one.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 10:59 PM  

@114


"If you've got the servicemen on your side, what need is there for a militia?"

1) Becuase the other side will have a militia. And don't for a second think that irregular militia are a cake-walk to defeat.

In my infantry company's year in Baghdad, one only one occassion (of the almost continuous squad-sized patrols) did they ever get into a fire-fight with a group who actually used the fire-and-movement techniques(*) which are essential to winning a firefight with a modern-trained army unless you are willing to absorb attrition losses at a ratio of at least 30 of your own to 1 of your opponent.

Now think of that. A year of combat and we did suffer some killed. But most everyone the men in my company faced were amateurs. And this is around the capital, which is where you would expect the most well-trained opposition forces to be. Nevertheless, this uncoordinated, oddly equipped, often fighting in SANDALS and eye-catching 1990's style "jogging suits", kept one of the most well-equipped, well-fed, well-supplied, and well-motivated (100% volunteer army) in fits for years.

NEVER discount the effectiveness of irregular combatants.


(*) First developed by the German Army in 1917. It consists of small fireteams, in which one man fires (to keep enemy heads down) while his buddy moves. Then they switch. Fireteams do the same thing with each other, to move an entire squad forward. Squads similarly to move a platoon forward. And in some cases, platoons to move a company forward.

Blogger Felix Krull November 09, 2018 11:02 PM  

A truly wise man, especially one who understands physics down to the subatomic level, would not rule out either one.

That is the agnostic fallacy, an intellectual cuck-out: "Yes, yes, I know that rationally and scientifically, this god-business is nonsense, but you never truly know, do you? I mean, how can we even know anything? Maybe we live in a computer simulation."

Would you also not rule out the existence of Santa Claus?

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 11:05 PM  

What irregular forces lack in funds, equipment, and the ability to stay in combat for days or weeks at a time, they make up for in invisibility, the ability to penetrate enemy lines, ingenuity, and the time and patience to make a plethora of demoralizing weapons (either lethal, or deliberately limited to just maiming) and in which to fashion those weapons into looking like damned near any ordinary object that they want it to look like, to fit in at the precise target which they want to attack. It really doesn't bother them one whit that it might take 2 months to create a single bomb, IF they can get that bomb into the personal officer of a mayor who particular irks them.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 11:05 PM  

s/officer/office

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 11:22 PM  

@118

"
That is the agnostic fallacy, an intellectual cuck-out: "Yes, yes, I know that rationally and scientifically, this god-business is nonsense, but you never truly know, do you? I mean, how can we even know anything? Maybe we live in a computer simulation."

I'm an engineer, which makes me better at science than most scientists -- becuase if a "scientist" is wrong, he might suffer the embarrassment of having to retract a paper, whereas if an engineer is wrong, the costs tend to be measured in the number of funerals held and legal fees and damage awards paid. Oh, and a good chance that you'll NEVER work as an engineer ever again.

That being said, we truly don't know enough about these phenomenon.

Airline pilots were reporting seeing purple and red lightning dozens of miles above thunderstorms for DECADES, and nobody believed them. Many pilots -- military and "jumbo jet" civilian airliners -- were afraid to even report seeing these things, out of fear of being immediately grounded and losing their $100,000+/year jobs doing what they LOVE to do.... FLY EXPENSIVE AIRPLANES. Only 5 years ago, some satellite imagery proved that this "myth" is actually true, and it has since been discovered, that cloud-to-ground, cloud-to-cloud, and internal cloud lightning CANNOT HAPPEN until just after one of these ionospheric level red, 10's of miles-tall flower-shaped lightning bursts occurs ~100 miles or so above sea level, followed by an upper troposphere level purple lightning burst a couple miles above the cloud tops




"Would you also not rule out the existence of Santa Claus?"

How many people in ancient history ever reported seeing Santa Claus? We know the Santa Claus character is a myth BECAUSE WE KNOW WHO MADE UP THE MYTH, and why (to simultaneously entertain and manipulate children), and WHO the historic figure is who he was based on. We ALSO know exactly WHO transformed Santa-Clause from a rather non-descript old guy into an obese guy in a red suit (an artist for the Coca-Cola company's advertising department) and a sleigh propelled by flying reindeer (a 19th century poet).

So, you're equivocating by trying to make a known myth of known origins (in every detail) to be the same as some sort of phenomena which has been widely reported from nearly as soon as writing was invented, if not earlier, and which has been reported by every civilization around the globe.

Don't be so stupid.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 11:25 PM  

And if you can believe in the Big Bang, then you can hold no logical objection to reports of ghosts if you use the same criteria.

Blogger SirHamster November 09, 2018 11:31 PM  

> I'm beginning to understand why Vox pretends to be a Christian.

Calling Vox a liar is begging for a ban.

Atheist attention whoring.

Blogger Baseball Savant November 09, 2018 11:34 PM  

Speaking of bench press, I got 505lbs for 2 this past Monday. First time I went over 500 for reps.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 09, 2018 11:43 PM  

Ugh.

I just had inguinal hernia repair surgery, and my doctor has prohibited me from lifting so much as 10 pounds.... even lifting by flexing my legs, not by arm strength.

Blogger pyrrhus November 10, 2018 12:05 AM  

https://www.smobserved.com/story/2018/09/27/politics/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-will-retire-from-the-us-supreme-court-in-january-2019/3658.html
law clerk source?!

Blogger Sam November 10, 2018 12:14 AM  

Dirk Manly wrote:

1) Becuase the other side will have a militia. And don't for a second think that irregular militia are a cake-walk to defeat.

In my infantry company's year in Baghdad, one only one occassion (of the almost continuous squad-sized patrols) did they ever get into a fire-fight with a group who actually used the fire-and-movement techniques(*) which are essential to winning a firefight with a modern-trained army unless you are willing to absorb attrition losses at a ratio of at least 30 of your own to 1 of your opponent.

Now think of that. A year of combat and we did suffer some killed. But most everyone the men in my company faced were amateurs. And this is around the capital, which is where you would expect the most well-trained opposition forces to be. Nevertheless, this uncoordinated, oddly equipped, often fighting in SANDALS and eye-catching 1990's style "jogging suits", kept one of the most well-equipped, well-fed, well-supplied, and well-motivated (100% volunteer army) in fits for years.

NEVER discount the effectiveness of irregular combatants.


Militias aren't a problem if you simply shoot all of your enemies people. Which is what a civil war will probably end up as. It is helped by the geographic distribution- the left is in the cities so you just surround them, cut off water, power and food and kill anyone who leaves.

Blogger pyrrhus November 10, 2018 12:14 AM  

"I had a girlfriend who claimed she had seen a ghost. Are ghosts real?"
Obviously yes, since millions have seen them...One of my sons at age 5 accurately described a woman in 19th century dress, including a long skirt, pass through his bedroom door to look in on him when he was at home with a cold. She smiled and left...He was not frightened because she was so motherly.

Blogger pyrrhus November 10, 2018 12:18 AM  

"It is helped by the geographic distribution- the left is in the cities so you just surround them, cut off water, power and food and kill anyone who leaves."
Absolutely. The irregulars should avoid battle at all cost and simply sabotage the supply lines for the urban enemy, perhaps sniping those sent to guard such resources.

Blogger Jack Amok November 10, 2018 12:28 AM  

And the election fraud continues.

Blogger Jail Cussox November 10, 2018 2:01 AM  

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Blogger Jail Cussox November 10, 2018 2:02 AM  

Cuckservatism
Churchianity
Diversity
Tolerance
Melting Pot
Judeochrist

My god, it's one endless facsimile hell.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 10, 2018 3:07 AM  

@127

"Militias aren't a problem if you simply shoot all of your enemies people. Which is what a civil war will probably end up as. It is helped by the geographic distribution- the left is in the cities so you just surround them, cut off water, power and food and kill anyone who leaves."

Yep. The left is at a severe disadvantage, logistically, as everywhere place they occupy outside of rural Minnesota, and the southern border of Texas, are areas that are 100% dependent upon receiving supplies from strongly right-wing areas.

The quicker the civil war comes, the less prepared the left will be (in terms of firearms), and the sooner it will be over.

The only rural Democrats are in Minnesota.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 10, 2018 3:10 AM  

@129

"Absolutely. The irregulars should avoid battle at all cost and simply sabotage the supply lines for the urban enemy, perhaps sniping those sent to guard such resources."

SMART irregulars carry arms only for self-defense. They can't win a prolonged battle with regulars, or even a small firefight more than a few miles into enemy territory (because the noise attracts attention).

The best irregular is one who nobody knows was even there until AFTER the critical installation has been destroyed by either explosion or sabotage of critical components.

Blogger MJimmy November 10, 2018 3:36 AM  

H. A. Goodman is providing excellent analysis on the voter fraud situation on YT.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 10, 2018 3:43 AM  

@130

"And the election fraud continues."

TGE is sending in the feds.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

In the 2016 Election I was winning by so much in Florida that Broward County, which was very late with vote tabulation and probably getting ready to do a “number,” couldn’t do it because not enough people live in Broward for them to falsify a victory!


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060958713047961600

Mayor Gillum conceded on Election Day and now Broward County has put him “back into play.” Bill Nelson conceded Election - now he’s back in play!? This is an embarrassment to our Country and to Democracy!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060993836984324096

Just out — in Arizona, SIGNATURES DON’T MATCH. Electoral corruption - Call for a new Election? We must protect our Democracy!


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060949297900834816
Rick Scott was up by 50,000+ votes on Election Day, now they “found” many votes and he is only up 15,000 votes. “The Broward Effect.” How come they never find Republican votes?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060938144336367616

As soon as Democrats sent their best Election stealing lawyer, Marc Elias, to Broward County they miraculously started finding Democrat votes. Don’t worry, Florida - I am sending much better lawyers to expose the FRAUD!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060924708101644288

You mean they are just now finding votes in Florida and Georgia – but the Election was on Tuesday? Let’s blame the Russians and demand an immediate apology from President Putin!




Blogger Gettimothy November 10, 2018 4:14 AM  

@124 awesome!

You power-lifter types have my respect.

Blogger Gettimothy November 10, 2018 4:17 AM  

The in-your-face overt fraud is waking up the normies to the fact that they no longer live in America.

The moral level of the fight is rapidly coming to the fore of the populace at large.

Praying for a political victory over these scum.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 10, 2018 4:57 AM  

And if it's corrected, the screeches of "Trump stole the [Florida/Georgia/Arizona] Election" will get the normies even more pissed off.

The general public has finally woken up to the fact that "recounts" NEVER, not even 1% of the time, result in a Republican win, because if the recount DOES show a Republican winner, they just insist on another recount, and another, and another until "the right result" comes up, and then the recounting suddenly stops.

Just like the tax-millage scam -- submit the same millage proposal every single election until it passes. Doesn't matter if the public votes against it 15 times in a row... they'll submit it again.

The most blatant one in recent memory... two local high schools were going to be consolidated into the newer one (built in 1959) at the north end of town, and the older one would consolidate all of the (remaining 3) junior^H^H^H^H^H^Hmiddle schools into the older one built in the 1920's or so.

So far, so good. But the school board insisted that the 50-year old high school suddenly needed a new air conditioning system.... and that this required a $4.2 MILLION bond to be paid off with a property millage. I ran the numbers. I could have put a window air conditioner in every single window of that high school and still over $3.5 Million left over. And this is a building which was originally built with both central heating and central air conditioning. So, we're talking about literally doing nothing more than replacing the old compressor, condenser and evaporator, not even a new installation. And on a per BTU basis, central air equipment is FAR cheaper than a thousand window units.

Then, the next year, the city decided that the property owners would have to cough up another milleage increase, because suddenly, there was absolutely NO MONEY in the budget to pay for the police and fire departments. Strange -- they have money to hijack a youth activity center for K-6 kids which ran a couple hours/day, and turn it into a BOOMERTARD Senior Citizen Center, operating approximately 12 hours/day. And all kinds of other extraneous pet projects. And the 40+ city parks (which I'm not complaining about -- it's one of the things that makes Royal Oak, MI truly idyllic if you're a kid) were still being mowed every far more often than the once every 10 days from when I was a kid (when he 10-12 year old baseball league had 32 teams, and the 7-9 T-ball league had 40) and so actually necessitated that nearly every single park be mowed on such a frequent basis. And a whole host of other ways they were wasting money... all while the tax revenue from the downtown area (which had been a variety of retail and, "the sidewalks were rolled up by 6 PM) had turned into a night time entertainment district (no, I didn't say red light district) of bars and restaurants attracting people from a 30 mile radius consistently... but now, they STILL didn't have enough money for police and fire. Bunch of lying scammers. I like living in Royal Oak, but I vote no on every single milleage proposal, because I have yet to see ANY sign that the city government spends their money in a responsible manner. Which is why I LIKE living here, as opposed to 30 yeaars ago when I *LOVED* living here.

Blogger Felix Krull November 10, 2018 5:07 AM  

@121
...which makes me better at science than most scientists.

Then, being familiar with the tenets of the scientific method, particularly the principle of falsification, would you say that ghosts are a scientific fact?

So, you're equivocating by trying to make a known myth of known origins (in every detail)

That's a silly argument. Just because the origin of a myth is lost to time, doesn't make it more credible, a myth must be evaluated against observation. Also, while we know more about the Santa myth, we certainly do not know it in every detail.

As for the story of the airline pilots, it's a good example of how to go about filtering fact from fiction. Give me reliable and testable data on a miracle, and I'll convert tomorrow. That's how it works with scientists, all it takes is ONE piece of good evidence.

Arguing that if there's something scientists can't explain - fx. the Big Bang - it must be Jesus, is also a logical fallacy and a backhanded compliment to science: even religious people consider science the ultimate arbiter of truth.

Blogger Resident Moron™ November 10, 2018 5:35 AM  

hat's a silly argument. Just because the origin of a myth is lost to time,

Whereas this is merely a dishonest argument. He didn’t say it is lost to time and in fact he referred to the documentary evidence, ie the opposite.

Of the two I'd prefer dealing with an honest but silly person. I’d prefer to BE an honest silly person.

Of course, you may have a different preference.

Blogger Felix Krull November 10, 2018 5:47 AM  

@141
He didn’t say it is lost to time

Yes, he did.

he referred to the documentary evidence

No, he didn't.

Blogger Mark Stoval November 10, 2018 6:14 AM  

"Arguing that if there's something scientists can't explain - fx. the Big Bang - it must be Jesus, is also a logical fallacy and a backhanded compliment to science: even religious people consider science the ultimate arbiter of truth."

You would be surprised how many of us out here don't believe there are any honest scientists left. And almost all scientists misunderstand probability and statistics if they even took a course past undergraduate level.

The ultimate question is "why is there anything at all?"

Everything we see around us just up and popped in to existence caused by the GOD of Random Chance???

Than, my friend, is the ultimate in African superstition.

Blogger English Tom November 10, 2018 7:07 AM  

@Sam

Good point. Civil wars are known for producing a high incidence of massacres.

Blogger Felix Krull November 10, 2018 7:07 AM  

The ultimate question is "why is there anything at all?"

Philosophy is good for young people, it helps develop a supple intellect, but it is ultimately a futile exercise, because it always ends in sterile solipsism, such as your question above.

If there's a physical answer, science will nail it in time. If not tomorrow or the day after, then in a hundred or a thousand years. Until then, we'll just have to live with not knowing.

You would be surprised how many of us out here don't believe there are any honest scientists left.

There are. Only, they keep a low profile as to not aggravate the crazies. And dishonest science is not an indictment of science itself, it's an indictment of the education system.

Blogger Felix Krull November 10, 2018 7:08 AM  

And dishonest science is not an indictment of science itself, it's an indictment of the education system.

Dishones scientists...

Blogger English Tom November 10, 2018 7:12 AM  

@Dirk Manly

Anyone wishing to study irregular warfare should consider the IRA and their tactics. Some good books on this:
The dirty war. Martin Dillon

Bandit country: the IRA &South Armagh. Toby Harnden

The Irish war. Tony Geraty

The IRA were very tenacious and got the most out of their meagre resources while taking on the British state.

Blogger English Tom November 10, 2018 7:17 AM  

@Felix Krill

Religious people recognise God as the ultimate arbiter of truth. Vox has pointed out often how science today has been completely debased and has become just another arena for power competition.

Blogger VD November 10, 2018 7:35 AM  

Lie about me and my Christian faith again and you'll be permanently banned, Felix Krull.

Fucking gammas. Every single time.

Blogger Felix Krull November 10, 2018 7:43 AM  

science today has been completely debased and has become just another arena for power competition.

Religion has been debased too. Does that make it more or less true? As with Christianity, the fact that some, or even many, practitioners are corrupt, does not change one jot of the truth of either the Bible or science.

The difference is, that you can shut down a corrupt scientist if you've got the time and resources. It happens often enough. You can't shut down a corrupt cleric, because religion has no objective method of determining what's proper theology and what's heresy.

Blogger Felix Krull November 10, 2018 7:51 AM  

Lie about me and my Christian faith again and you'll be permanently banned, Felix Krull.

Hi Vox, thanks for the warning. I read one of your books, a couple of months of blog posts and saw about a dozen of your videos. You struck me as a markedly evidence-based thinker, and that always makes suspect closet atheism in a Christian. My apologies.

So how about my question? Where do you see 'Christian nationalism" on the rise in Europe? It's a genuine question; it doesn't happen here in Northern Europe. I don't know about Italy, but the pope seems pretty intent on destroying the Catholic church.

Blogger xevious2030 November 10, 2018 7:57 AM  

If you do not even consider #55, then you are a moron and ready to be taken advantage of again and again. Not to say #55 is the case, but it is possible that it is.

Flynn (super-patriot) was ejected at the drop of a hat (chumming the waters for an investigation that was about to run out of steam entirely, and yes it was), while Swampy/Cold-war think-tankers were retained.
Almost 25% (rounded to quarter) and Trump finally fires Sessions, when it should have been done when he recused himself and Trump had weight.
DoJ and FBI have not been cleaned out.
Realistically, the only people being prosecuted or shut down are Conservatives/Libertarian/Right/Classical-liberal types of influence, not the Swamp, not Clinton, not Soros, not the pedos high up (just low level).
No shutdown in Spring of 2017 over wall, Fall of 2017, or any other 6 month interval, just slow construction.
2020 is not guaranteed, seeing the Senate losses of upset states Trump won in 2016 (Ohio, Pennsylvania, and such), meaning we could almost 50% through the total Trump administration, with real gridlock the rest of the way.

In other words, you better have a f-ing Plan B or you're dumb. So, I don't know much about the author of #55, but the post is one to consider.

As a matter of opinion, it is entirely possible we have a little less God-Emporer, and a little more She-Wolf-In-Heat luring away loyal dogs from the homestead to be torn to bits. This is a paradigm shift, and if what was needed was being done by Trump, the House would not have been lost. Plan B, protocols broken trigger other protocols, a change in outcomes, don't be lazy and don't be stupid, consider.

P.S. On #109, the "Left" absolutely. hated. George W. Bush. Turns out that was crap, they were lovers at the highest levels. In other words, not a sign. As #109 relates.

Xevious
Xevious for 2008 US President

Blogger rumpole5 November 10, 2018 7:57 AM  

Re: Trump=managed opposition

Trump is the terminal point of our heretofore established system of managed opposition. He is using a rachet force to move the whole system more and more to his course. He has to reef the sail a bit now and then to prevent the ship from capsizing, and he is occasionally tacking port against the left wing zeitgeist gale, but for the first time in a long time the overall course is firmly to starboard. Trump is the lead weighted keel that makes it all possible.

Blogger xevious2030 November 10, 2018 7:59 AM  

Not #109, but #108 on my last.

Blogger SirHamster November 10, 2018 9:33 AM  

Philosophy is good for young people, it helps develop a supple intellect, but it is ultimately a futile exercise, because it always ends in sterile solipsism, such as your question above.

Criticism of philosophy as a category ...

If there's a physical answer, science will nail it in time. If not tomorrow or the day after, then in a hundred or a thousand years. Until then, we'll just have to live with not knowing.

... followed by advocacy of a poor philosophy of science indicates this atheist is not tall enough for the ride.

Is there a term for this sort of philosophical incoherence?

Blogger VD November 10, 2018 9:55 AM  

Where do you see 'Christian nationalism" on the rise in Europe?

Hungary and Poland in particular and Eastern Europe in general. Russia as well, to a lesser extent.

You struck me as a markedly evidence-based thinker, and that always makes suspect closet atheism in a Christian.

You clearly never read The Irrational Atheist or On the Existence of Gods. I am very much not a closet atheist or an atheist of any kind.

Blogger The Greay Man November 10, 2018 10:28 AM  

Felix Krull,

Are you aware that you are a snobby, unintelligent little twerp? Do you love when people reply to you?

How hard was it to resist going into a tirade about how your IQ is definitely higher than 89?

Blogger xevious2030 November 10, 2018 10:46 AM  

#152 Would be a different world to find Trump and Obama were picked in the early 1980s by a temporarily disoriented but thankfully cautious Ender/Hari Seldon. With or without, the reality of who is being actually persicuted (beyond means) and who is not can not be dismissed or rejected as an indicator. And the keel does not steer the ship, it helps to prevent capsizement regardless of direction traveled, to borrow your apt metaphor.

Blogger Felix Krull November 10, 2018 11:17 AM  

Hungary and Poland in particular and Eastern Europe in general. Russia as well, to a lesser extent.

Yes. I suppose I meant Western Europe. I'd never even heard the term 'Christian nationalism' before. The closest Western Europe comes to Christian nationalism is CDU - Angela Merkel's party.

I am very much not a closet atheist or an atheist of any kind.

That is understood.

Blogger Sam November 10, 2018 11:30 AM  

Felix Krull wrote:
Religion has been debased too. Does that make it more or less true? As with Christianity, the fact that some, or even many, practitioners are corrupt, does not change one jot of the truth of either the Bible or science.

The difference is, that you can shut down a corrupt scientist if you've got the time and resources. It happens often enough. You can't shut down a corrupt cleric, because religion has no objective method of determining what's proper theology and what's heresy.


You do actually. Community of the saints. Things that have lasted a long time without causing problem are good, things that rapidly lead to people murdering each other are bad. Obviously more involved then that, but it isn't random.

Blogger Felix Krull November 10, 2018 11:50 AM  

Things that have lasted a long time without causing problem are good, things that rapidly lead to people murdering each other are bad.

That's hardly anchored in scripture, it's just common, secular sense. The Golden Rule.

Blogger Realist24 November 10, 2018 12:32 PM  

Vox,

What book or books would you recommend on the Spanish Civil War?

Thanks

Blogger Mr Darcy November 10, 2018 12:33 PM  

@32 Gen Kong:

" […] Seems we'll have to start from the ground up in many cases. It's very important though."

This is well underway:

http://www.anglicancatholic.org/

http://eldona.org/

Perhaps others, too.


Blogger Dirk Manly November 10, 2018 2:49 PM  

@139

"...which makes me better at science than most scientists.

Then, being familiar with the tenets of the scientific method, particularly the principle of falsification, would you say that ghosts are a scientific fact?"


We have wide reports of a phenomenon, going back to the dawn of recorded history, and even farther back than that, by people from all walks of life -- from drunks to politicians to military leaders to leaders of commercial entities, and everyone in between.

We have several photographs, which were reportedly taken years after a relative has died, in which the deceased appears hanging around in the background -- most importantly, most of these were taken with "instamatic" type cameras which are fundamentally incapable of taking a double-exposure without being utterly broken. Perhaps these are hoaxes -- but if so, why haven't other relatives, or friends of the family, come forward and said, "Oh, come on -- your daughter here is 5 years old, and your dad didn't die until she was 10!" ???

What we are lacking is any sort of controlled experiment.

But I say again, if you are capable of believing that it is possible for all of the matter in the universe to suddenly appear, in a space smaller than the diameter of an electron, through no known means, or (as described in several religions texts, as literally the (mental) act of willing it into existence), and physicists have noted that experimenter attitude CAN have an effect on some sub-atomic particle experiments, then ghosts cannot be ruled out as being anything other than what they are believed to be, until we find out exactly WHAT the phenomenon is composed of.

Do I believe that ALL ghost reports are true?
Of course not.

But some are too compelling (multiple witnesses) to be ignored.

On that note, the "Amityville Horror" story is a complete hoax. The iconic quarter-round windows in the attic were replaced with regular old square windows, and several families have lived in that house, peacefully, since the mid-1980's.

Blogger English Tom November 10, 2018 3:17 PM  

@Realist24

Re: books on Spanish Civil War.

I just read recently, the Spanish Civil War: reaction, revolution and revenge by Paul Preston. A really good read.

There is also a really good 6 part documentary series on YouTube made by a UK tv company in the 1980's. Both highly recommended.

Blogger SirHamster November 10, 2018 4:00 PM  

@Dirk

"We have several photographs, which were reportedly taken years after a relative has died, in which the deceased appears hanging around in the background"

Have any references for reading? Sounds interesting but my googlefu is weak.

Blogger Haxo Angmark November 10, 2018 4:25 PM  

@164: Paul Preston is a notorious, shabbatz goy Red Professor. His bio of Franco is a murderous hatchet job, and the book you cite a mendacious communist propaganda piece.

here are more truthful reads on the Spanish CW, ranging from objective to pro-Right:


(narratives)

Radosh, Ronald et al.: SPAIN BETRAYED - THE SOVIET UNION AND THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR (New Haven, 2001)
Eby, Cecil: BETWEEN THE BULLET AND THE LIE - AMERICAN VOLUNTEERS IN THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR (Chicago, 1969)
Eby, Cecil: SIEGE OF THE ALCAZAR (NY, 1965)
Othen, Christopher: FRANCOS'S INTERNATIONAL BRIGADES (London, 2008)


(first hand accounts)

Payne, Robert (ed.): CIVIL WAR IN SPAIN, 1936-1939 (London, 1963)
Fraser, Ronald (ed.): BLOOD OF SPAIN - ORAL HISTORY OF THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR (NY, 1986)
Larios, Jose: COMBAT OVER SPAIN - MEMOIRS OF A NATIONALIST FIGHTER PILOT (NY, 1966)
Kemp, Peter: THORNS OF MEMORY (London, 1990)
Thomas, Frank: BROTHER AGAINST BROTHER - EXPERIENCES OF A BRITISH VOLUNTEER IN THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR (Phoenix Mill, 1998)
Lunn, Arnold: SPANISH REHEARSAL FOR WOULD WAR - AN EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT OF THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR (Old Greenwich, 1937)
Orwell, George: HOMAGE TO CATALONIA (NY, 1952)
Barea, Arturo: FORGING OF A REBEL (NY, 2001)



Blogger Felix Krull November 10, 2018 6:51 PM  

if you are capable of believing that it is possible for all of the matter in the universe to suddenly appear, in a space smaller than the diameter of an electron... then ghosts cannot be ruled out.

Again: this is the "if we can't explain something, then Jesus" - argument. We can't explain gravity either, is that a proof of Santa?

Of course, on a very theoretical, very philosophical level, anything is possible in a quantum-based universe. Theoretically, I could blink, and my house would disappear in that instance, in a once-in-a-billion-universes quantum event. (Assuming the quantum physicists have that right, of course.)

But if someone told me that his house had evaporated into thin air, I wouldn't believe him. For good, probabilistic reasons.

physicists have noted that experimenter attitude CAN have an effect on some sub-atomic particle experiments

I suspect you've got that wrong. It's not the attitude of the researcher, but the act of observation itself, that changes the state of the particle. And it's not a 'can' thing, it's a rule.

As for your photographic evidence, (linkie-linkie?) I've seen too many hoaxes to count, but I've never seen a ghost. It'd be silly of me then, to assume that a weird photo was a ghost rather than a hoax, even if I couldn't explain how the hoax was perpetrated.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 10, 2018 8:58 PM  

@167


>> physicists have noted that experimenter attitude CAN have an effect on some sub-atomic particle experiments

> I suspect you've got that wrong. It's not the attitude of the researcher, but the act of observation itself, that changes the state of the particle. And it's not a 'can' thing, it's a rule.

If you're not aware of this, you're 50 years literally behind the times in quantum physics.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 10, 2018 9:21 PM  

Physics is NOT as cut-and-dried as everyone thinks.

The value of g fluctuates.

So also do the rates of nuclear decay by fission. After some anomolies were noted, the School of Physics at Purdue, and the Physics Department at Northwestern investigated it further, and found all kinds of weird shit going on.

We don't understand physics nearly as well as the vast majority of people think we do.

For example, the relative positions of the Moon and Sun with respect to the earth have an influence on nuclear decay rates. But those are not the ONLY influences on this variability.

Our greatest advances in Newtonian celestial mechanics were driven, by of all things, astrology. Kepler, who discovered the "equal areas swept in equal periods of time" rule for elliptical orbits was an assistant to Tycho Brahe. Brahe constantly talked about planetary positions with regards to world events. Kepler told him that was all a bunch of nonsense. By the time Tycho died, Kepler was absolutely convinced. Kepler was then inspired to work out the laws of planetary motions, all driven by having been convinced (apparently by evidence) that Tycho was on to something.

And all of this despite the fact that the Tychonic cosmological model (sun and moon revolve around the earth, but the planets revolve around the sun) is structurally screwed up. (and mathematically, much more complicated). Tycho thoroughly rejected the Copernican (sun-centered) model which we use today. Keppler recognized the fact that the data fit the Copernican sun-centered system better than Tychonic, earth-centered system.

Now, does that mean I have any intention of running out to an astrologer to predict my or the world's future events? No.

For one thing, it's going to cost more money than I care to spend to get periodic "forecasts" from a number of them to find out if even one of them is not just as much of a charlatan as your typical cold-reading "spiritualist" or "fortune teller."
And most of them are frauds. If you have someone who can't even do trig, let alone calculus, telling you that they're working out future positions of celestial bodies,, and then angles relative to earth's ever-changing position, that right there tells you that you're dealing with a fraudster.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 10, 2018 9:23 PM  

And when I say the value of g fluctuates, I mean by over 1%, when measured by the same team, at the same location. And it gets even worse when you start looking at other teams making doing the same thing at other facilities.

And this is using equipment which is accurate to 1 part in 10^5 or more.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 10, 2018 9:25 PM  

There is so much that textbooks and the media have convinced the public that we know absolutely, but which we have only fuzzy ideas about.

Blogger xevious2030 November 10, 2018 11:01 PM  

Might try ultra low frequency energy and ultra high energy occupying the same space, and where they sparsely interact, the universe. With Gravity in the low, and the high providing the juice for energy traveling at 300 times the speed of light and the connection that is quantum entanglement. Quantum mechanics good, quantum physics superstitious nonsense.

Is the notion the universe is expanding equally, not from a central location or point, gaining any ground anywhere (simultaneous flash, a "blink in")? Or have people found the general vicinity of the center of the expanding universe (can point over there in the sky and say about X number of light years in that general direction)?

Blogger LP999-16 November 11, 2018 1:42 AM  

Ivan, Salt, thank you - Gen Kong Kong, thank you -

We are missing the point of the darkstream not the thread, its all good.

How dark and sick antifa is, how dark twitter is, I am not insulting others there trying to make a difference the matter is clear as they too are one stroke away from a ban just as I am. This new phone I have is a google android thing, its crazy. Everyday is alert after alert, nonsense apps, the horror movies mentioned here are not part of the topic. People are going offline, cutting the cable box out of disgust at evil and ugliness.

The POTUS is right, how the media is treating people is terrible.

Who can agree or reason with a person like Matt Y whom PJW Friday on AJ addressed, consider this, a big man and his buddies surrounding a man's home, hte husband is not home, probably lives in a gun free zone or a place where the police are too busy. Tucker's treasure and his life is inside that home, everything he loves and lives for is inside that home. Why isn't this getting 24-7 coverage.

His wife and family are locking themselves into a basement or behind doors!

I understand there was a shooting in Pittsburgh and Cali, Malibu on fire, etc., Acosta at CNN acting out. Awful.

Reaching out to the left with how they act is not appropriate, let them go, Tucker is only one of many who's family and children were threatened by a mob and twitter thinks this is ok, this is horrendous.

Gab, Facebook etc., are no better.

What kind of person cannot empathize and speak out against terrifying innocent women and children, who acts like this?

Sick people.

I have lost patrons, money, family, etc., I have dad, I look behind my back often and I have God.

What else is there.

This is Christmas, its the holy holiday time and this is whats happening after midterms.

On a happier note Roosh completely punked the book banners, check his channel for the video posted 11/10. AltHero is doing what comics were supposed to do, does anyone recall the panic of the 1950's when people thought comics were going to harm people, the left, dc, marvel, etc., have gone nuts, can you reason with them, no, the men built their own comics, books, etc.

Blogger LP999-16 November 11, 2018 1:46 AM  

171 textbooks in a post literate society where American public schools are nothing more than breeding grounds of immense dysfunction and grooming grounds for assaulting and wrecking the kids, its too dark to even mention, what I refer to is already assumed.

Vox's videos are now no longer appearing in recommends, I have to go find them. Technology is becoming more annoying by the day.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 11, 2018 2:25 AM  

Hint:

Matter is merely the condensed form energy.

E=mc^2 is the conversion formula for going back and forth.

Ghosts and other apparitions appear to be some sort of energy without matter attached, under the control of some consciousness.

And on the other hand, all of it could be purely demonic in origin.

Nobody knows, because there's no lab equipment set up when these things appear.

As for the "ghost hunter" TV shows... they're as fake as the "alien autopsy" video -- they allude to something, but NEVER provide a good clear look, because clear imagery would show that they're committing hoaxes. Not sure if these shows are for the purpose of manipulating the public's opinion about something, conditioning them for something, or if it's just opportunistic greed by groups of guys who like to run around pretending to be scared out of their wits, with the possible inclusion of some bizarre electronically-generated/modified sound samples and/or playing with a hand-held laser using a not-off-the-shelf image-filters which produce something indistinct and blobby. Color doesn't matter, as these are always done in the dark, using infrared imagery, some the imagery is always "black and green" and color spectrum information is never recorded. [All pixels on a CCD imaging wafer are sensitive to infrared -- color separation is done by putting a fine-pitched RGB filter field over the CCD. Remove the RGB filter grid, (typically just "flipped up and out of the way" on a hinge inside cameras such as Sony "nightshot" products), and you have a field where EVERY pixel on the CCD wafer can detect IR/R/G/B/UV photons.]

These people are all in it for publicity/money or something, not good documentation -- too much "i'm scarrrrred" shaky camera stuff whenever they supposedly see something. Similarly so for their audio recordings...too much noise. Microphone gain is turned up all the way, even in places where reports are that people have heard strange sounds (if it's audible, you shouldn't need the mic input amped up so high... but you SHOULD have microphones well-emplaced in the areas where the sounds are being heard, so that you're not operating on the threshold of the mic's sensitivity)

Logically, the evidence of hoaxsterism does not mean there is no evidence -- it merely means that someone is creating hoaxes for profit or some other reason -- in the same way that Piltdown man being a hoax does NOT mean that fossil skeletons as a general rule are hoaxes.

Each case must be evaluated individually.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 11, 2018 2:44 AM  

@172

Quantum entanglement is less than what the press (and some physicists) advertise it to be.

In quantum mechanics, until YOU have determined the state of a particle, your computations reflect that it could be any one of ALL allowable states. Now, if two particles are released by a mechanism such that their polarizations are perpendicular to each other... just because I detect the polarization of a particular photon to be horizontal RIGHT NOW does not mean that it wasn't ALREADY horizontal before I performed the polarization detection... and likewise, by detecting that it's horizontal RIGHT NOW does not make the other particle vertically polarized all of a sudden... it was vertically polarized already, just not previously discovered to be so.

All of this "it's faster-than-light" communication hoopla is merely a bunch of physicists drinking their own mathematical kool-aid as if the indeterminancy at point A is a matter of PHYSICAL fact, as opposed to a reflection of the fact that at point A, THEY DON'T KNOW YET what any particular particle is doing. That does not mean that the particle is actually polarized in all possible orientations, all at once, until going through some sort of determination device. That's literally taking your MODEL as literally true, and throwing out the assumptions and non-assumptions which underlie the mathematical model.

For the physics community, being wrong is no big deal -- "oh, I'll have to retract that paper."

As an engineer, who has had a basic understanding of sub-atomic and particle physics since I was 10 years old, I see absolutely NOTHING in all of these "faster than light communication" hoopla claims which would allow even the LOGICAL (let alone physical) design of a system whereby putting a dual-perpendicularly-polarized particle emitter at point C, spewing particles towards points A and B, will somehow allow a person at either Point A or B to communicate a message with time delays lower than simply sending a stream of photons or other particles from A to B or vice-versa.

If a person at point A CHANGES the polarization of the particle at his station, that does not CHANGE the polarization of the particle at point B.

This is where the "entanglement" argument crashes in on itself.

All A and B can do is compare their records of the particles which they observe coming out of the emitter at C, and compare their lists to verify that for each particle which one position detected as vertical, the other position detected as horizontal.

And doing THAT is even slower than just sending laser light or maser waves back and forth, using whatever scheme they desire to distinguish symbol X from symbol Y.

Blogger LP999-16 November 11, 2018 2:46 AM  

Daily Meme: DTTTM

DTTTE enemy.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 11, 2018 2:47 AM  

"Scientists" make all sorts of fantastically idiotic claims, because the blowback for being wrong is, at most embarrassment. And for sociopaths and psychopaths who feel no shame, ever, not even that.

For engineers, saying that "device A performs task X" when it doesn't do any such thing, he might as well just quit, and take up garbage collection under an fictitious name.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 11, 2018 4:22 AM  

IF an engineer claims that "Device D reliably performs Task T" and it doesn't do so, even unreliably, then he might as well just quit his job, and get a job picking up garbage, preferably under a fictitious name.

If you want to find real science, read the IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineering) journals, or other similar engineering journals (yes, they even have engineering journals for medicine).

What you will find are not wild-eyed crazy claims, but more along the lines of

"X does Y.... but only under Conditions C or E, but not under D" You'll also tend to find that engineers are more honest about their confidence. "We don't know" statements, such as "the effects of W are unknown/unexplored/undetermined as of this writing" give the reader a sense of if the authors believe that their findings are robust, in a wide variety of conditions, or that they believe they just stumbled upon a very narrow set of conditions in which something happens, and that strong and precise control measures are needed to replicate the effect.

Meanwhile the pure science journals are sounding more and more detached from reality as Popular Mechanics publishing their 14273rd article about how flying cars are gonna be here any day now.....any day now....you'll see.

Blogger xevious2030 November 11, 2018 8:39 AM  

@176 Decent enough reply. My understanding, a bit dated, was you had quantum mechanics (science and math over here), and then you had quantum physics (Schrodinders cat and the mythological observer of the infinite multiverse over here). With quantum physics there as a distraction to grind all the gears of the non-breakaway science/civilization of Zardoz to a halt.

Quantum entanglement is reasonably plausible, but the before and after observation are needed for verification.

As far as the speed of light, had in mind the sending of energy through cesium gas that was done over 10 years ago, legitimate stuff. Seemed to arrive at destination almost before it left (nature of observable action with tools).

And there is no matter, merely the state of energy which behaves in general characteristics.

For high and low energy universes, illustratively it is like a two component chemical reaction, with the generally observable universe being the reaction. Or energy in ice, water, steam, with the observable universe being water as a result of the interaction between high and low.

As an aside, I remember watching a show a few years that cut to actual commercial. In the commercial someone got hurt. An ambulance with a big black box (dimentions to hold showman, casket sized) on a gurney with scanning technology, thin robotic arms, everything for surgery, and a link to a hospital where the doctor could diagnose and treat remotely during delivery. Went back on my DVR to find it, but was gone (maybe no save code). Did web searches, nothing there. I don't use the term Zardoz lightly.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 11, 2018 9:12 AM  

The army experimented with high tech litters with radio link and video to medical staff in the hospital. It didn't go well.

What they found was that the medics, instead of doing their job, became passive, waiting for instructions for "the doctor"... who really couldn't evaluate diddly-squat because he's not there being able to evaluate the patient through touch, talking to him, conducting responses to stimuli, etc.

Which is why today, you still see army medics using plain old pole-and-canvas litters and dragging around a radio -- because THAT combination actually gives better patient care than trying to do it by remote control.

Would modern, hi-res camera resolutions help? Probably not. Bandwidth limitations interfere with sending that much data over VHF frequencies. UHF has the bandwidth to do it with ease, but UHF isn't good for field work without a radio expert selecting a good site for the tranciever antenna, and then it typically takes more time to get the antenna oriented properly.

Blogger xevious2030 November 11, 2018 11:06 AM  

What I saw, and it was relitively quick, a commercial was someone got hurt (fell or whatever, I was distracted). Medics came, put the person in the box. The person said what happened, while the machine scanned (guessing x-ray, CT, MRI, whatever) the box gave a localized anesthesia shot, while the doctor was notified and prepped for surgery. All the medics did was drive, put her in the box, and call ahead to relay what they saw as they transported her. The box (likely with AI) and the doctor did treatment. The ambulance most likely was primarily a mobile communication device, as treatment was done within the box. The transport moved until a helicopter could land and pick up the box, to fly it to the hospital, where the patient is rushed to the operating room for immediate care. All of this was background while the advertiser was selling the service, quickness of care in an emergency, state of the art sechnology for personal safety when seconds count, competent doctors providing the best care before you ever reach the hospital, the usual sales junk that would be expected.

As far as communication, as a blind guess, likely a dedicated satellite feed or such. Money only.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 11, 2018 5:50 PM  

@180


You mean like this https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjA5OTQ5NTY0M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNjUzNTU3MTE@._V1_SY1000_CR0,0,1248,1000_AL_.jpg?

I don't think there's enough forgiveness in all of existence for that.

Here, have some eyebleach.

Blogger xevious2030 November 12, 2018 4:22 AM  

That is it exactly, Mr. Connery decked out in red. Not exactly Mr. Connery in his finest attire though.

Over half the wold lives on less ha $5 a day. There is the the third world, and then there is the first world (yes, there is the second world, but this is the providing of contrast much like a black and white photograph in a color world). And three bedrooms and two baths with a soccer van in suburbia is not all that dissimilar to Mr. Connery's friends in mud helmets, with a rare few not unlike Mr. Connery himself, as compared to the top 0.001% which keeps a doctor, in house ER, and groom of the stool in much the way as a middle class house has a vacuum and plunger.

Upper middle class suburbia is not the pinnacle of achievement. It is a step above a shanty, which is a step above a mud hut. In other words, if you are part of the lower 99.9%, you're the equivalent of picking up rifles out of the floating helmet, in terms of disparity. And the attitudes of the top, they are the same as the movie. So yes, breakaway. Breakaway technology, breakaway civilization. And just wait 'till the code gets compiled, you think it is ugly and unfair now. Try an elite of top level IQs with pretty much zero sympathy/empathy wt total control, because that is the destination if it is not fixed.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 12, 2018 4:45 AM  

@184

" Try an elite of top level IQs with pretty much zero sympathy/empathy wt total control, because that is the destination if it is not fixed."

They're already proving that they are not as high IQ as their parents, and since this is more admission due to hereditery/blood lines than to accomplishment, and the Flynn Effect causing reversion to the mean.... they're not going to stay in control much longer. And they have too many normies (by necessity of numbers) in places like the NSA, which is already rebelling against them.

Blogger xevious2030 November 12, 2018 10:36 AM  

@185 That has been a saving grace in times past.but the biological aspect is no longer the end all. DNA is data. Which contains sets of dominant code and recessive code. Certain combinations of recessive code yield certain results, other combinations other. Remove or reduce certain inputs (pain/suffering) and you reduce sympathy/empathy. Throw an instilled ability at manipulation and the rules of psychological understanding that seem to be effective.

Now, copy that select recessive genetic code to a simulation, deny pain, run the model, and tie it to quantum computing (high energy frequency range that operates considerably faster than anything in the physical style energy universe). "Immortality," high IQ, without the ups and downs of organic biological breeding. Probably not there yet, but you can bet that is a big part of the intention. Hence my handle as it is now.

Blogger Moritz Krämer November 12, 2018 11:29 AM  

They really that effective tho?

Blogger Moritz Krämer November 12, 2018 11:33 AM  

I dont know about any books on the subject, but I can recommend closely reading Apostle Paul's Letters and comparing them. The Apostles clearly knew and recognized that different peoples need to be addressed in different manners and would adopt different practices.

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