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Thursday, December 13, 2018

At least no one can call them homophobic

The Boy Scouts survived world wars and the invention of the airplane, the computer, and video games. But they couldn't survive SJW convergence:
The Boy Scouts of America is considering filing for bankruptcy protection as it faces dwindling membership and escalating legal costs related to lawsuits over how it handled allegations of sex abuse. Leaders of the Boy Scouts, one of the country’s largest youth organizations, have hired law firm Sidley Austin LLP for assistance with a possible chapter 11 bankruptcy filing, according to people familiar with the matter.
It didn't take a rocket science to grasp that permitting gays to go camping with young boys was going to lead to sexual abuse and parents refusing to render their sons vulnerable to the oh-so-tender ministrations of the local pedos.

Convergence is corporate cancer.

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64 Comments:

Blogger tublecane December 13, 2018 4:19 AM  

It's been about 35 years since Saturday Night Live did the Canteen Boy sketch. That's plenty forewarning.

Blogger tublecane December 13, 2018 4:20 AM  

@2- That should be 25 years, sorry.

Blogger Difster December 13, 2018 4:35 AM  

The moment they abandoned their Christian roots and allowed atheists in to the Scouts, their fate was sealed.

Blogger john darson December 13, 2018 5:32 AM  

The attempted abolition of every spiritual element of society has had quite a few drawbacks. Total war on masculinity and all elements of community (unless they are non-white), and there are seemingly very few traditional groups safe, unless they never sold their soul to the free market. Luckily, there are holdouts enough to hopefully remove this evil from its pre-eminent state in society. Once the conformity is broken and conditioning is cracked, the evil frauds like the Jordan Petersons and Bill Kristols will probably lose any of their already shrinking support. Evil seems like a harsh term to use against these people, but the deterritorialization and total destruction they want to sow (or have sown, like John McCain or the Bush or Clinton families) speaks for itself.

Blogger wahr01 December 13, 2018 5:48 AM  

Like all other terrible business decisions.. people don't make the connection, and the "visionaries" responsible glad-hand their way into other companies to run into the ground until they eventually retire or are otherwise removed by arrests for fraud/scandals.

I don't think i've seen a single public company that has not suffered this fate, and the frequency is increasing because the concepts of honor and duty to one's subordinates and society (practiced by the silents) has been utterly destroyed.

Blogger Felix Bellator December 13, 2018 5:50 AM  

They had won court case after court case protecting their right to be exclusive. Then they just gave it away to evil. In the end the adult leadership failed to be mentally awake and morally straight.

Blogger pdwalker December 13, 2018 5:51 AM  

Who could have foreseen this? Everyone knows it is difficult like rocket science. it’s not like anybody could have expected this result.

Ps: textbook example for your corporate cancer book. Can’t wait to read it.

Blogger ADU December 13, 2018 6:05 AM  

Boy Scouts became Scouting Boys. Or Boy Spouts.

Blogger ADU December 13, 2018 6:06 AM  

Jews target all Christian organizations.

Blogger Gregory the Great December 13, 2018 6:08 AM  

Sounds a bit like introducing wolves into a herd of sheep. Once the word gets out that there are wolves in that herd other sheep will be somewhat less likely to consider joining that particular herd.

Blogger pyrrhus December 13, 2018 6:10 AM  

When my kids were in the Scouts, I had a friend who worked for the regional organization...He said they were concerned about the " 3 Gs", which were God, Girls, and Gays, in part because United Way was threatening to defund them...0/3 and the very converged United Way also lost a lot of donors in the Chicago area as white jobs were eliminated or moved out of the State. Minorities don't give to charity.

Blogger Mister Excitement December 13, 2018 6:13 AM  

@6

The adult leadership actively betrayed the Scouts. The President of the Scouts that did the final surrender to this madness was none other than a member of the Bush Administration, Robert Gates.

The Boy Scouts allowed this man to become its President knowing what he had done as SECDEF.

"Gates announced in February 2010 that the Defense department would lift its ban on women serving on submarines.[62] Gates also prepared the armed forces for the repeal of the don't ask, don't tell policy. Since the repeal in 2010, homosexuals are able to serve in the military openly.[63] In service of that goal, he announced in late March 2010 the approval of new regulations that would make it more difficult to kick gays out of the military. Gates called the guideline changes, which went into effect immediately, a matter of "common sense and common decency" that would be "an important improvement" allowing the Pentagon to apply current law in "a fairer and more appropriate"

"On May 21, 2015, Gates stated that the "status quo [ban on gay adult leaders] in [the BSA] movement's membership standards cannot be sustained" and that he would no longer seek to revoke the charters of scout units that accept gay adult leaders."

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 13, 2018 6:25 AM  

It's sad, for sure. But good riddance (though it's not completely dead yet, hopefully soon), as they totally ruined it. I'm sure the exodus of the remaining good people will be accelerating.

Blogger Pierre Truc December 13, 2018 6:27 AM  

Damn.

Get Woke Go Broke.

Blogger Rick December 13, 2018 6:51 AM  

All this forced non-homophobia is making me homophobic.

Blogger McChuck December 13, 2018 6:58 AM  

Feminism is cancer. Duty, honor, country, self reliance, etc. are masculine values. That's why the tranzis want all men to be pansies.

Blogger SemiSpook37 December 13, 2018 6:59 AM  

Hell, you knew it was bad when the GIRL Scouts sued (or were at least threatening to) because of the decision to let girls join. Because that won’t bring any of its own problems, either...

Blogger Robert Browning December 13, 2018 7:02 AM  

I situation was created to benefit lawyers. Somebody made money off of somebody else's troubles. But who is the troublemaker?

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 13, 2018 7:06 AM  

You don't have to be Q to predict this.

Blogger Rhys December 13, 2018 7:19 AM  

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Blogger Rhys December 13, 2018 7:20 AM  

corporate cancer has really evolved into corporate rabies at this point. cancer can be treated, but convergence is the end, you get bitten by the SJWs, it's game over man.

Blogger FSL December 13, 2018 7:29 AM  

In today's legal environment, how could you survive "discrimination" against gay troop leaders though?

Blogger Randomatos December 13, 2018 7:37 AM  

Decentralization. Without a leader to sue and coopt, if/where you and your friends camp is of no concern to the looters.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 13, 2018 7:38 AM  

Gates, Tillerson, and the AT&T executive did this. They can all rot in hell.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 13, 2018 7:43 AM  

We are in the Left's narrative now, they make accusations of isms, ists and phobias our sperg intellectuals rush out to quibble some detail and then over time we lose, yay intellectuals.

Blogger mushroom December 13, 2018 7:43 AM  

That a government of the lawyers, by the lawyers, and for the lawyers should not perish from the earth. Lincoln was, btw, a lawyer. Letting lawyers write the laws is about as sensible as letting burglars design and install your alarm system.

I don't suggest we kill them all. Hang a few then spay and neuter the rest.

Blogger Stilicho December 13, 2018 7:46 AM  

So naturally, the BSA hires an expensive leftist law firm that isn't particularly known for bankruptcy expertise, but is known for leftist political connections and a willingness to use those connections for the right price and cause.

Conclusion: any remaining assets of the BSA will be diverted to leftist politicians and organizations and to the extent it survives the process it will become a purely leftist organization for the indoctrination of youth in the globohomo narrative. Say goodbye to independence of local troops. You will no longer be allowed any deviations from the narrative.

I've been telling a friend whose high school age sons are assiduously working towards Eagle Scout in a traditional troop (no girls, no gays, etc.) to get out, take Baden-Powell's book as a guide and form their own scouting organization. He wouldn't listen. I doubt he will now (too much invested in current system), but his grandsons will never be able to be boy scouts.

Blogger Desdichado December 13, 2018 7:50 AM  

The lawsuits are from allegations of abuse that occurred before gays were openly invited to participate, however. I think the (((tort happy))) legal system that bears significant responsibility for the elimination of our freedoms and culture as Americans is the main culprit here, not the get woke go broke refrain.

Blogger bobby December 13, 2018 7:57 AM  

We can talk dismissively about how the current leadership gave it all away and make fun of how easily it was converged.

But America is diminished through the loss of the Boy Scouts, and every man who was made a better man by the organization and watched it die bears some of the blame, myself included.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 13, 2018 8:04 AM  

mushroom wrote:I don't suggest we kill them all. Hang a few then spay and neuter the rest.

Who was it who wrote about the Byzantine solution to containing bureaucracy?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey December 13, 2018 8:07 AM  

It didn't take a rocket science to grasp that permitting gays to go camping with young boys was going to lead to sexual abuse and parents refusing to render their sons vulnerable to the oh-so-tender ministrations of the local pedos.

Allowing trannies wasn't such a great idea, either. And while letting girls join doesn't pose the same kind of direct threat as homosexual scoutmasters, it changes the character of the organization, as it always does when females invade a male space.

They successfully fought the (((lawfare))) for decades... then spontaneously surrendered.

Fun fact: after the Boy Scouts let girls join, they were sued for doing so. By the Girl Scouts.

It's almost as if appeasing women doesn't make them happy. Or something.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 13, 2018 8:07 AM  

Off topic, the Vikings have been put on sale over on Craigslist, including the nice stadium.

Blogger Miguel December 13, 2018 8:22 AM  

If you want to ruin a conservative, right eing male space, just force them to accept women and sodomites

Blogger Kat December 13, 2018 8:41 AM  

Stilicho wrote:So naturally, the BSA hires an expensive leftist law firm that isn't particularly known for bankruptcy expertise, but is known for leftist political connections and a willingness to use those connections for the right price and cause.

Conclusion: any remaining assets of the BSA will be diverted to leftist politicians and organizations


Want to make it harder for groups like Trail Life to pick up some valuable, cachet boosting lands?

Blogger VFM #7634 December 13, 2018 8:46 AM  

@Rhys

The term going around is "poz", as in HIV positive. So, corporate poz.

Blogger David The Good December 13, 2018 9:15 AM  

This is a shame, though entirely predictable.

Though I never joined, my dad had been an Eagle scout and later shared his knowledge with us. The glory days of America are over - this is just another sign of winter.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey December 13, 2018 9:21 AM  

Ironically the main driver to all of their woes is money. That was always the lever used. The fight over the gays was driven by CEOs (including Rex Tillerson prominently) who threatened to withhold corporate contributions unless the scouts caved on the secular, progressive agenda. This was always, always cited as the strongest and most decisive explanation for why things 'had to be done'.

Going to SCOTUS repeatedly and winning was not enough. Standing up against all the social pressure from the left was too hard, especially given the lure of all that money.

So they took the money and for what? Now they are looking at bankruptcy. Sad and foolish. Everybody in scouting leadership knew the wrong moves were made and many loudly said so and many picked up and left over it. They can't say they didn't know they were making a deal with the devil.

Blogger The Kurgan December 13, 2018 9:30 AM  

Orouboros.
It was started by a homo and it ended by homos.

Blogger Purge187 December 13, 2018 9:34 AM  

I think it's safe to say that there will be even more such allegations if and when they let the girls in. #metoo

Blogger Kevin Smith December 13, 2018 9:58 AM  

Not clear when these events happened. They could have been far before gays were allowed in and judges now are just over interested in punishing every organization they deem was insufficiently viligent by modern standards of preventing abuse.

Blogger Crush Limbraw December 13, 2018 10:13 AM  

When you consider the fact that Antonio Gramsci's 'march through the institutions' began in the churches over 100 years ago, the Boy Scouts were rather late prey.
When the adults had already succumbed to the cesspool, their children were sure to be sacrificed next.
As Vox said, it doesn't take great brilliance to see what should be obvious!

Blogger Cloom December 13, 2018 10:15 AM  

unless they never sold their soul to the free market.

So freedom and markets are the devil now. I think some rhetoric is a hint of revolution instead of our counter-revolution.

Blogger Nostromo December 13, 2018 10:18 AM  

My immediate thought when I heard this on the radio.

Blogger Ryan G December 13, 2018 10:21 AM  

I'd say these lefty's behavior is more akin to a virus. What are the properties of a virus?

1. They cannot replicate without host cells.
2. They take over host cells and force them to replicate more of themselves.
3. This process renders the cell incapable of meeting its own needs.
4. The cell eventually dies and the virus spreads to other cells.

These people, rather than build a youth character building organization of their own, hijacked the scouts.

They used the BSA to further Marxist, Anti-Christian messages.

The BSA became unable to fulfill its purpose and reason for being.

Because the BSA was no longer able to fulfill its purpose, people stopped supporting it.

The BSA is dying, the activists it created will now, doubtless, go on to infect other organizations.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 13, 2018 10:23 AM  

Rex Tillerman was instrumental in changing the Scout's policy. Who recommended him for Secretary of State?

Blogger Matamoros December 13, 2018 10:39 AM  

@21 "you get bitten by the SJWs, it's game over man."

The REAL Zombie Apocalypse

Blogger Stilicho December 13, 2018 11:02 AM  

@34 Kat, yes, much like the Episcopal church held on to all assets of the congregations that left because of gay marriage and the ordination of women/gays/trannies etc. Leftists and satanists are after everything you have, including your soul if you'll let them have it.

Blogger Nick McGouran December 13, 2018 1:46 PM  

When I was in Scouts (15 years ago), my local troop was awesome. Small town Oklahoma. Lots of fit, active boys (only 2 fatties out of 35-40 scouts), lots of active male leaders from all walks of life...engineers, doctors, mechanics, construction and oilfield guys, cops and retired military. No gays. We had some Hispanic scouts start with us, but they dropped out within a year. The boys ran the troop, too...from the schedule to the budget. Planned the events, ran the meetings. Did everything but drive the bus. Adults taught and supervised. As an aside, the troop in the next town over died around the time I joined mine...they had exclusively (old, slow and fat) female adult leadership, and all the boys worth having left and joined our troop.

I made lifelong friends, had a blast, and learned skills that have literally saved my life on two occasions. Being in Scouts helped me grow from a boy into a man other men can rely on.

15 years later, my younger brothers are getting into Scouts. Same troop, roughly same size. Fully 3/4 of the kids are fatasses. Male leaders are all dopey, weak nerds who don't like to travel far or do active things. Not really scout-led...more like daycare in the woods. They now allow moms to participate as leaders, and even go on campouts (banned in my day, after a scoutmaster in the 70's banged some moms on campouts).

It's sad. Coming back after college, I helped with BoR's and fundraising, but didn't participate in the day-to-day stuff since my brothers were too young to join. I think that was a mistake. Not sure what I could have done other than be there and say "No, that's dumb" ...but it would have been better than nothing.

All that said, the bankruptcy may be a blessing. If the BSA folds and the church keeps sponsoring the group, we could do things the way they ought to be done without interference from the national level.

Any advice or suggestions y'all have would be much appreciated.

Blogger Steve Samson December 13, 2018 2:27 PM  

The moment they abandoned their Christian roots and allowed atheists in to the Scouts, their fate was sealed

I was going to ask this. I'm in the UK and all I know about the scouts is that they come to church once a month and bring their flags to the front, and they meet in the church hall. I'd assumed all the chapters/troops/whatever were tied to a church. Is this not the case in the US? Is it even the case in the UK? My son wants to join next year when he's old enough... I'd be grateful for some input on this.

Blogger Pathfinderlight December 13, 2018 3:09 PM  

It's times like this where embracing the concept of a "spiritual successor" can provide some continuity, particularly when the new organization is founded by members of the old.

The new founder is bound to have his name immortalized alongside Baden Powell for his work.

Blogger Haxo Angmark December 13, 2018 3:11 PM  

on target.

no parent who's an active member of White Western Civilization

wants their son bent into a Milo.

Blogger Haxo Angmark December 13, 2018 3:19 PM  

and as re Tillerson:

CEO's and their corporations

have no more sovereignty vis a vis the (((banksters)))

than do governments. Both are wallowing in debt and thus controlled.

when they obey - cf. globohomo Tim Cook -

they get honors from the ADL. If they don't,

a new CEO (or leader) appears.

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 13, 2018 3:23 PM  

Nick McGouran wrote:The boys ran the troop, too...from the schedule to the budget. Planned the events, ran the meetings.

Now that's the way it should be done. But it's also a relic of the past, alas.

Nick McGouran wrote:If the BSA folds and the church keeps sponsoring the group, we could do things the way they ought to be done without interference from the national level.



That's clearly the thing to do here, as others have suggested before. Take the tenets and do your own local thing. Start anew, ala Baden-Powell; except with the benefit of decades of groundwork laid by BSA before it all when to crap. Good luck, it's important work, and hugely valuable, if done right.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 13, 2018 3:46 PM  

@29

"But America is diminished through the loss of the Boy Scouts, and every man who was made a better man by the organization and watched it die bears some of the blame, myself included."

Which was the goal all along.

If it survives, the globohomos have another indoctrination organization to push their message.

If it doesn't survive, then at least it's no longer around to fight through instilling contradicting ideology.

Blogger Up from the pond December 13, 2018 3:46 PM  

"The Boy Scouts survived the invention of the airplane."

Were airplanes or flying clubs in competition with the Boy Scouts?

Blogger Up from the pond December 13, 2018 3:49 PM  

The Left is not stupid, just genocidal/nihilistic. It is burning it all down on purpose, although "purpose" falsely implies a uniformity of agency. A lot of these cruds just can't help it, it's in their bones or they're past the point of no return.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella December 13, 2018 4:29 PM  

There's a troop in diversitopia, foundering. Then there is the troop in the small town, run through a church. It graduates Eagles. Fathers run it.

We didn't sign our boys up b/c diversitopia was already so very gay. We'd been to the gay bookstore that had all the 'I learned to be gay in Boy Scouts' memoirs. It's not just one book.

It seemed simpler to be cautious.

I am grieved that they were breached by sin.

Blogger Cloudbuster December 13, 2018 6:03 PM  

We have so many really nice scout camps in Ohio. I wonder what's going to happen to them if scouts fold. The land is, in some cases no doubt extremely valuable (such as Camp Lazarus, north of Columbus). I'd hate to see it sold of for subdivisions. It takes a tremendous amount of money to maintain a scout camp -- building maintenance, landscaping, etc. -- and it's almost impossible to build one these days, with the cost of construction, especially in the old rustic beam style.

Blogger Matthew Morgan December 13, 2018 6:04 PM  

@48

15 years later, my younger brothers are getting into Scouts. Same troop, roughly same size. Fully 3/4 of the kids are fatasses. Male leaders are all dopey, weak nerds who don't like to travel far or do active things. Not really scout-led...more like daycare in the woods. They now allow moms to participate as leaders, and even go on campouts (banned in my day, after a scoutmaster in the 70's banged some moms on campouts).

Is this not similar to what's happened with churches over the past couple of decades? They somehow became "uncool" for normal men to be part of and are now a lame social club for gammas & omegas

Blogger Dad29 December 13, 2018 6:41 PM  

Rex Tillerson voted for the Gay Scouts, by the way. He's still a member of the Exec Board.

The other Major Homosex Pusher on the Board was/is the CEO of one of the Big Eight. Can't recall his name.

Blogger Goose December 13, 2018 8:42 PM  

When I was a Scoutmaster in the 80's we ran the troop much as described by Nick (comment #48). The things that we also tried to imbue were how to be a traditional man and how to lead by example. You could not become an Eagle Scout without affirming your belief in G-d. We had a scout who met all of the requirements but that and he never made the rank. Now retired I thought that I would offer to volunteer as a councilor for merit badges, but when I saw the changes I wanted to vomit so they lost me and they have lost everybody.
To succeed you must stand apart with a high bar for achievement and the program to get there, the Scouts have lost that. I feel sadness for the boys who could have used scouting to grow to manhood but feel nothing for the leadership who made scouting into another sjw cesspool.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 13, 2018 10:41 PM  

A recent Trump tweet in regards to Tillerson.

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Mike Pompeo is doing a great job, I am very proud of him. His predecessor, Rex Tillerson, didn’t have the mental capacity needed. He was dumb as a rock and I couldn’t get rid of him fast enough. He was lazy as hell. Now it is a whole new ballgame, great spirit at State!

Blogger Jack Amok December 13, 2018 10:44 PM  

The lawsuits are from allegations of abuse that occurred before gays were openly invited to participate,The lawsuits are from allegations of abuse that occurred before gays were openly invited to participate,

That's more or less the gist of it - this started a long time ago. Sad thing is, of all the things it got wrong, this was NOT one of them. BSA actually had probably the best anti-abuse policy of any youth organization. Certainly better than the average public school.

Ken Ramsey has it right though - the rot long predates the homo policy and it's tied directly to money. BSA national has bee grubbing for money since the 70's and that made them vulnerable to pressure for every SJW lunatic policy.

But if the organization is dead, the idea is not. Running a boys scouting program can be done without the auspices of BSA, and you can use the old-fashioned program folks here mentioned.

The problem you'll have is avoiding the lawsuits though.

Blogger John December 14, 2018 12:33 AM  

Gay men agitating for the right to insert themselves into the Boy Scouts (and getting it) is a perfect little snapshot of the world we live in.

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