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Wednesday, December 05, 2018

The real story in France

It will probably not surprise anyone here to know that the globomedia is completely misrepresenting the Yellow Vest protests in Paris. This is a post by an American living in Paris about what is really going on with the gilets jaunes.

It's important to note that the majority of protestors are middle aged, these are not college or university students, who make up the usual French protests. This is a grassroots protest. It's been reported anywhere from 50-80% of the French support the gilets jaunes. This is NOT just about taxes.

The protests began over the new taxes imposed by Macron's government on fuel. The taxes are viewed as punishing those who use cars and those who can't afford to buy newer ones. The French already pay heavy taxes on fuel, along with high tolls on highways. Every car in France is required to have 2 high visibility vests (gilets jaunes). The protestors began wearing those vests while protesting.

Along with this, the cost of living is incredibly high while salaries are painfully low, especially in larger cities like Paris. The myth of government-ordered 35 hour work weeks isn't the reality for most salaried French people. Taxes eat huge chunks of their money and the French are fed up with making the same amount in their salaries as those who don't work at all and rely on government assistance.

Parts of France are also filled with unassimilated migrants. These migrants get government assistance as well. A large part of the French are sick of paying for migrants when French people are suffering as well. There are areas that have stopped being culturally French and cities the French avoid for holidays because of the migrant problem.

In addition to this, retired people have been lodging their dissatisfaction with their retirement pensions (one woman in a video circulating around French Facebook confronts Macron about having to live off of 500€ a month) and Macron's reactions have been condescending across the board. He currently has about a 26% approval rating.

All of this started bubbling up a few weeks ago as the protests began with the gilets jaunes in November. The protests last weekend got violent. Statues at the Arc De Triomphe were broken; the Arc was defaced. In Marseille, an 80 year old woman was killed as she was closing her shutters. The police threw a tear gas canister at her window. While outside of larger cities, many police officers and firefighters are taking off their helmets and/or standing in solidarity with the gilets jaunes. There have been reports that they have also refused to shake Macron's hand and have turned their backs to government officials while serving in official capacities.

On Monday (December 2), there was a protest by the ambulances in Paris. They stood at Concorde with lights flashing and sirens sounding. Truck drivers have also showed their solidarity. They have also driven through Paris with lights flashing to show their dissatisfaction. Roads have been closed down by gilets jaunes and they are blocking access of oil in both ports and at stations. As of posting, over 650 stations are on a list of facing shortages or out of fuel. During yesterday's news cycle, many truck drivers were seen disrupting broadcasts by honking in solidarity with the gilets jaunes.

On Tuesday (December 3), the French government spoke about their plans for "appeasement" of the gilets jaunes. Their offer was to postpone the start date of 3 taxes (related to fuel). This offer has been scoffed at by the gilets jaunes, who have called it "crumbs" as the taxes haven't even been implemented yet and the offer does nothing to address the issues regarding cost of living.

Along with this, the French have begun demanding that Macron refuse to sign the UN Migration Act on December 10. This has begun appearing across the Facebook groups and events but has not been widely reported in the French media as far as I can tell.

This has culminated in everything from demands Macron step down to the creation of the 6th Republic. There are protests planned for Saturday across France. The protestors are calling the Paris protests ACT 4. They are quoting from the French National Anthem ("Aux Armes Citoyens") and planning to protest at Bastille. The medical community is also participating in the protests on Saturday.

TLDR: This is bigger than taxes. These aren't your usual French protests.

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150 Comments:

Blogger Nobody of Consequence December 05, 2018 11:06 AM  

They, the French, have however elected those who have done this to them. They need to recognize their own culpability. They have the Right to change their minds and demand the government they desire but they need to start with themselves and stop electing the Leftists who work for evil.

Blogger Amy December 05, 2018 11:06 AM  

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Has greater evil ever been spoken?

France has woken up on the wrong side of Maricon’s bed.

Good.

Blogger widlast washere December 05, 2018 11:09 AM  

Good for them.
"Vive la France", "Vive la liberté"

Blogger #7139 December 05, 2018 11:11 AM  

Good for the French.

Blogger pyrrhus December 05, 2018 11:16 AM  

You know it's serious when the Police are siding with the demonstrators...We have been in France several times in recent years, and the ordinary people do not look happy, while Africans lounge around in 2000 year old towns...

Blogger Ingemar December 05, 2018 11:16 AM  

the cost of living is incredibly high while salaries are painfully low, especially in larger cities like Paris.

Whenever I read about skyrocketing COL's, what immediately comes to my mind is Chinese or Saudi money laundering via real estate.

Blogger IBOgre December 05, 2018 11:19 AM  

TLDR: This is bigger than taxes. These aren't your usual French protests.

Considering the nature of the French to create a new republic at the rate of one every sixty years or so, historically these are "usual French protests".

I fear that the call for a republican reform with so many migrants present may lead to some groups agitating they be at the table for the new government. With what later groups have done to the US with its Constitution as a supposed check, God help the French if those groups get a hand in setting up a republic in France.

Blogger Ingemar December 05, 2018 11:20 AM  

Also, I think the Euros are beginning to realize that they can't win at the polls if the poll taker will ignore whatever result he doesn't like.

As much as Anglos don't like Franco-Latin disorderliness, that will be the key to defeating the evil "order" of the EU.

Blogger JAG December 05, 2018 11:20 AM  

Evidence that Satan owns the material world is that this keeps happening no matter what system of government that is tried. Government always becomes the enemy and rules against the best interests of their own people. It then actively tries to destroy them.

Blogger Dr Caveman December 05, 2018 11:24 AM  

The French need to reinstate their guillotines to rid their society of the parasites in the globalist and migrant classes

Blogger LonestarWhacko December 05, 2018 11:25 AM  

Seems like whistling past the graveyard. What is the tipping point in the French invasion?

Blogger tuberman December 05, 2018 11:27 AM  

Yes, all obvious, but multiple Black-Pilled shills will show up with flakey BS, touting their weird meaningless views and distractions. As in, hey Nobody, who cares about the vote as that's all phony anyway. This Movement is the real deal, and expresses true desires.

My take again:

There is an actual revolution blooming, and it will have some pauses, and interruptions, but it will keep going, and the EU will be one of it's casualties.

Blogger The Kurgan December 05, 2018 11:28 AM  

I’m never very reliant on any prophecies if Saints, however, this is starting to play out as a prophecy I read concerning the beginning of the apocalypse.

Again.... I don’t put any stock in it, but it sure is interesting.
Bergoglio as herald of the antichrist....
France starting to burn and setting off the start of global wide protests/wars may be the next one.

Might be time to buy three large consecrated candles and good quality shutters for the three days of darkness that should kill most of the population off....
Just saying...

Blogger Keyser Soze December 05, 2018 11:32 AM  

I've just returned from 4 years in Luxembourg, which is adjacent to France and have been intimate with a French woman and her family. Her parents live on a pension of euro 4000/year. Her mother doesn't understand how Macaroon was elected when everyone she knows voted for Le Pen. The article reads true. And the French, like Americans take a long time to get pissed (Awakened Saxon), but when they finally get there.... Imagine defacing the Arc de Triomph!!! Like the Lincoln Memorial.....

Blogger Robert Browning December 05, 2018 11:32 AM  

The Yellow Vests are chanting "we want Trump".

Blogger Hammerli280 December 05, 2018 11:38 AM  

I need to get my rent-a-guillotine operation moved to France.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 05, 2018 11:41 AM  

I wasn't shocked at the AdT defacement until I read who the protesters were. This has been building for a long time.

Blogger Unknown December 05, 2018 11:41 AM  

We try in Ca but the majority want super majority of liberals in power. What to do?

Blogger DraveckysHumerus December 05, 2018 11:42 AM  

I think Diana Johnstone best summarizes the situation: http://www.unz.com/article/les-gilets-jaunes-a-bright-yellow-sign-of-distress/

She's hardly my favorite author, however, the above article is a worthwhile read.

Blogger Brick Hardslab December 05, 2018 11:43 AM  

Is Italy paying attention or other neighbors? Do you think it could spread?

Blogger DraveckysHumerus December 05, 2018 11:44 AM  

@16

I'm the guy renting the wood chipper. Be sure say 'hello' once you're settled in.

Blogger VD December 05, 2018 11:48 AM  

Is Italy paying attention or other neighbors? Do you think it could spread?

Yes, and yes. But the Italians won't protest the government alliance. They LOVE Salvini, who is really pulling the strings these days even though he's only Interior Minister.

Blogger tz December 05, 2018 11:51 AM  

@9 Satan does not own the material world but is a squatter. Read all the gospel passages about taking things by force and warfare in the spiritual realm. Roaring Lions seeking to devour people must be killed, along with the jackals.

Because the west has become de-Christianized, it has become the abode of demons, just like the nether-regions of Africa or South America where cannibals still live. Beyond that, the devil hates everything Christian so seeks destruction.

Blogger Servant of the Chief December 05, 2018 11:54 AM  

I can confirm the turning the backs thing. Saw a video on twitter with Firefighters at some kind of march turning their backs en masse with half of them walking off altogether.

Blogger Lurker December 05, 2018 11:54 AM  

"We try in Ca but the majority want super majority of liberals in power. What to do?"

Time to make like a tree and leave. What's happening in France sounds similar to CA just a Euro version... as France goes so does the rest of Europe? The globalTARDS NPCs overplaying their hand in a rush to build Tower of Babel 2.0. Obviously globalTARD NPC leadership is still mostly run by boomers.

“Civilization is in a race between education and catastrophe. Let us learn the truth and spread it as far and wide as our circumstances allow. For the truth is the greatest weapon we have.”

― H. G. Wells

Blogger Peaceful Poster December 05, 2018 11:56 AM  

The next winner of the Tour de France should wear the Gilet instead of the Maillot Jaune.

Blogger Amy December 05, 2018 12:00 PM  

THAT would be a statement. The Tour is nigh on religion in Europe.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd December 05, 2018 12:08 PM  

I spoke with a friend of mine this a.m. who is a right winger in western France to tell him American patriots are with you. He compared it to the Boston tea party that presaged the american revolution. I said that "last time we said 'wait until you see the whites of their eyes!' When fighting the Brits, because if we had said 'wait until you see the whites of their teeth!' We all would have been overrun"

He enjoyed that little quip.

Blogger Angantyr December 05, 2018 12:11 PM  

@16
"I need to get my rent-a-guillotine operation moved to France."

LOL! On a more serious note, it might be worthwhile looking into obtaining blueprints for a guillotine...

Blogger Theo C. December 05, 2018 12:12 PM  

This has culminated in everything from demands Macron step down to the creation of the 6th Republic.

Forget that. Just bring back the King.

Blogger ZhukovG December 05, 2018 12:13 PM  

Aux armes, citoyens
Formez vos bataillons

To Arms Citizens!
Form your Battalions!

(From La Marseillaise)

Blogger Zaklog the Great December 05, 2018 12:14 PM  

Surprise, surprise. The media are leaving out key parts of the story. In Europe, as in America, they truly are the enemy of the people.

https://youtu.be/AXZa-bExxx4

Blogger Jew613 December 05, 2018 12:16 PM  

With the French it will often be something tiny that sets them off, then you realize just how tough they are. May G-d help and protect the Franks as they cast off the curse of globalism.

Blogger wahr01 December 05, 2018 12:17 PM  

How does a nation that voted 70/30 against LePen move in a couple years to showing more spine (and action) than Trump?

Preference cascade, or the final surge before the iron boot comes?

Blogger bob kuk mando ( everything has Consequences. that what makes them Consequences ) December 05, 2018 12:17 PM  

14. Keyser Soze December 05, 2018 11:32 AM
And the French, like Americans take a long time to get pissed (Awakened Saxon)


like the Saxon, the French are also Teutonic.

West Francia became France and adopted a Romance language.

East Francia became Germany / Prussia and was, for a time, the Holy Roman Empire. they kept their Deutsch language though.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams December 05, 2018 12:18 PM  

I hope the end result is that the French get their country back!

Blogger DJ | AMDG December 05, 2018 12:18 PM  

Kurgan

Where else can I find online you and your fellow like minded Catholics?

Blogger Meanoldbasterd December 05, 2018 12:19 PM  

Jamais monsieur! Nous devons chantons la marseillaise blancs ou rien du tout!

https://youtu.be/O4aExiSazvY

Blogger tuberman December 05, 2018 12:22 PM  

"Forget that. Just bring back the King."

Say like the Windsors, or the Dutch Royalty, who are known to be some of the leaders of the Baal/Satanic demons. They are deep into the worst of this evil, and you want to bring back a French King? What do you worship?

Blogger Servant of the Chief December 05, 2018 12:30 PM  

@35 French aren't Teutonic, they're still Gallic mostly, hence the term Gallic temper and their infamous incivility and tendency to protest, but like other Europeans they also have a 'Snap' moment when things go from 'Hey I'm pissed about thing' to dumping handcuffed bodies in the Seine.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd December 05, 2018 12:30 PM  

Nous devons chanter... Zut!

Blogger Servant of the Chief December 05, 2018 12:31 PM  

@39 The Satanists have tried their damnedest to strip Europe of its Christian kings for the past two centuries and have only spared some they have managed to turn to their own ends, or did you think the French revolution was actually a good and just thing that God approved of? Are you high?

Blogger Jack Amok December 05, 2018 12:36 PM  

They, the French, have however elected those who have done this to them. They need to recognize their own culpability. They have the Right to change their minds and demand the government they desire but they need to start with themselves and stop electing the Leftists who work for evil.

I'm going to call bullshit on that. The problem with democracy is that you have minimal margin of error. First of all, it only ever works in a high-trust society, but a high-trust society is vulnerable to infiltration by low-trust parasites. With a democracy, the observable result is that by the time the high-trust folks realize they've been taken advantage of, it's too late to vote themselves out of the problem.

So in France, either the gilets jaunes intimidate (that's not voting) the globalists and their invader migrants into backing down, or things will eventually devolve into violence.

We face the same problem here. There are more sane, productive Heritage Americans in California today than were in all the colonies at independence, but they're never going to vote themselves out of the mess they're in.

Blogger FutureNoir84 December 05, 2018 12:41 PM  

Who added testosterone to those cheese eating surrender monkeys freedom fries?

Blogger Gen. Kong December 05, 2018 12:45 PM  

I recall VD saying a long time ago that the real pushback would come in Europe. There are indications that this is actually starting to happen there. Salvini has been really pushing back in Italy - much more than just tough talk or tweets to trigger SJWs into insanity. Looks like the Yellow Jackets are nationwide in France and might be serious about taking down the clown Macron. There's even a report of a big win for a populist party in Spain. Orban, Salvini, Poland, Austria and Slovakia have all rejected the UN migration treaty - which (among many other evils) outlaws all criticism of migration (invasion). Germany's puppet legislature already ratified it, as did Sweden's. Macron wants it for France. The Euros might be starting to wake up - even in the west.

Blogger Miguel December 05, 2018 12:48 PM  

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Blogger Noah Nehm December 05, 2018 12:48 PM  

Jacques Chirac, in June 1991, in a speech on immigration policy to his centre-right RPR party, said:

"Notre problème, ce n'est pas les étrangers, c'est qu'il y a overdose. C'est peut-être vrai qu'il n'y a pas plus d'étrangers qu'avant la guerre, mais ce n'est pas les mêmes et ça fait une différence. Il est certain que d'avoir des Espagnols, des Polonais et des Portugais travaillant chez nous, ça pose moins de problèmes que d'avoir des musulmans et des Noirs ... Comment voulez-vous que le travailleur français qui travaille avec sa femme et qui ensemble gagnent environ 15 000 FF et qui voit sur le palier à côté de son HLM, entassée, une famille avec un père de famille, trois ou quatre épouses et une vingtaine de gosses et qui gagne 50 000FF de prestations sociales sans naturellement travailler... Si vous ajoutez à cela le bruit et l'odeur, eh bien le travailleur français sur le palier, il devient fou. Et ce n'est pas être raciste que de dire cela. Nous n'avons plus les moyens d'honorer le regroupement familial et il faut enfin ouvrir le débat qui s'impose dans notre pays qui est un vrai débat moral pour savoir si il est naturel que les étrangers puissent bénéficier au même titre que les Français d'une solidarité nationale à laquelle ils ne participent pas puisqu'ils ne payent pas d'impôts. ... Il faut que ceux qui nous gouvernent prennent conscience qu'il y a un problème de l'immigration, et que si l'on ne le traite pas et, les socialistes étant ce qu'ils sont, ils ne le traiteront que sous la pression de l'opinion publique, les choses empireront au profit de ceux qui sont les plus extrémistes"

This issue has been around a long time, but no one had the political courage to deal with it.

On a final note, you could look up "Le bruit et l'odeur" on the English wikipedia, but it seriously redacts the speech. Hence the French above.

Blogger CM December 05, 2018 12:51 PM  

Some of the critical response to this is that the protesting french think wealth is a zero sum game.

I know that it's far more complex than that and the zero sum game seems, from a cursory look, to be fallacious, but I don't understand the economics very well.

I know, theoretically, apart from a gold standard, money can be generated based on Gross value (it's done federally, it's done with shares in a company). But reality seems to fall somewhere closer to the zero-sum than not zero-sum (lest we become so inflationary we end up like pre-hitler germany).

Blogger Miguel December 05, 2018 12:52 PM  

Vox,

All these men need is to clean their rooms.

After all, I am informed but a wide array of Pertersonites that following his "instructions" will "save the west".

Blogger wahr01 December 05, 2018 12:52 PM  

@43
"There are more sane, productive Heritage Americans in California today than were in all the colonies at independence, but they're never going to vote themselves out of the mess they're in."

The electoral process has been compromised and become increasingly disjointed from reality.

Gas Tax:
70/30 against in polling, a state house member from Los Angeles successfully recalled over it.
Prop 6 to repeal it "fails" at the ballot box 45/55

Governor's race:
Primaries are "top 2 only, regardless of party"
One would expect relatively close races.
Cox gets utterly crushed

These are statistically impossible events, until you account for cheating.. so "What is to be done?"

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/12/after_californias_ballotharvest_what_is_to_be_done.html

Blogger sysadmn December 05, 2018 12:54 PM  

Excellent Write-up at Those Who Can See.

They aren't Parisians, or big-city folks at all. These are small- and mid-sized town, working-class people from 'flyover' France, who absolutely need a car to get to work. Retirees too, who've seen their pensions decline under Macron. They are low-income, blue-collar, patriotic in a country that sneers at patriotism. They are also overwhelmingly native French. One might call them France's 'deplorables.'

A very different narrative than the media would like you to believe.

Blogger tuberman December 05, 2018 12:54 PM  

Servant of the Chief wrote:@39 The Satanists have tried their damnedest to strip Europe of its Christian kings for the past two centuries and have only spared some they have managed to turn to their own ends, or did you think the French revolution was actually a good and just thing that God approved of? Are you high?

Did I say that the French Revolution was a good thing? Nope, stop putting words in other peoples comments.

Bloodlines, what is known is that nearly all of the current Royalty is on board with the Satanists 100%. Including the Windsors, the Dutch, and the remaining Italian royalty, are all some of the leadership of the NWO all the way to the child trafficking and sacrifices.

Bloodlines, as they believe they are superior beings, beyond human, and the rest of us are sheep to be "harvested." It's all in their Egyptian symbols, as they believe they are descended from the Gods.

Admitted, the royal lowlife are only a small part of this, as there are millions of high to medium level Baal worshipers. In the past not all were in on this, and a good example would have been Czar Alexander and his family, but they were murdered with extreme hate, because they stood in the way. Putin is now hated for the same reasons.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 12:55 PM  

> Who added testosterone to those cheese eating surrender monkeys freedom fries?

I don't think lack of testosterone has ever been a French problem. The latinate tendency to put of fixing what can be borne today till tomorrow, otoh...

Blogger bob kuk mando ( everything has Consequences. that what makes them Consequences ) December 05, 2018 12:59 PM  

40. Servant of the Chief December 05, 2018 12:30 PM
French aren't Teutonic


the French aren't Teutonic in the same way that the Anglo-Saxons ( the "Eng-" of England is simply a variant speeling of Anglo- ) aren't Teutonic.

otherwise, you're claiming that Charlemagne and Charles Martel weren't French.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Franks

Blogger Gen. Kong December 05, 2018 1:00 PM  

The Satanists have tried their damnedest to strip Europe of its Christian kings for the past two centuries and have only spared some they have managed to turn to their own ends, or did you think the French revolution was actually a good and just thing that God approved of? Are you high?

Satanists, whether the kind whose names echo through eternity or those native types who generally take orders from them, have more than one method of subverting a monarchy. Infiltrating a monarchy whose spending was irresponsible from overseas empire-building and wars is one method; direct overthrow by a crazed mob of led by Satanist criminals (as in 1789) another. The former method - alluded to by tuberman - is actually more often encountered in history and was employed to lead to the situation which resulted in the reign of terror (French populace was facing starvation by 1789). Infiltration and subversion often works quite nicely all on its own. The Queen of England is head of the Anglican church, for example. It's a 'church' only in the same sense the 'Church of Satan' is - quite literally.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 05, 2018 1:01 PM  

Thanks for posting pieces such as this.

Don't know much about France, so the only thing I can recommend is a Steyr Scout rifle in 7mm-08, from that in the coming times of turbulence a battle ready carbine can be procured.

Blogger Lurker December 05, 2018 1:02 PM  

"They aren't Parisians, or big-city folks at all. These are small- and mid-sized town, working-class people from 'flyover' France, who absolutely need a car to get to work. Retirees too, who've seen their pensions decline under Macron. They are low-income, blue-collar, patriotic in a country that sneers at patriotism. They are also overwhelmingly native French. One might call them France's 'deplorables.'"

MPAI includes globalTARD NPC leadership as well, even a farmer knows you don't keep working the soil or milking the cows all the time.

Blogger Azimus December 05, 2018 1:03 PM  

Between what is going on in France and what is going on UK this is like "A Tale of Two Cities" in reverse

Blogger bob kuk mando ( everything has Consequences. that what makes them Consequences ) December 05, 2018 1:04 PM  

48. CM December 05, 2018 12:51 PM
But reality seems to fall somewhere closer to the zero-sum than not zero-sum


you have the same standard of living as someone born in 1800?

Blogger Nobody of Consequence December 05, 2018 1:06 PM  

These are statistically impossible events, until you account for cheating.. so "What is to be done?"


Shoot the bastards and let their bodies lie on the ground to rot???? Get off your arses and do something. We have 10% turn outs for elections where I live and the people just complain. If you don't participate actively, you will participate passively and you still get what you asked for.

Blogger Crew December 05, 2018 1:07 PM  

I fear that the call for a republican reform with so many migrants present may lead to some groups agitating they be at the table for the new government.

Those people are not French, even if born in France, so they do not get a seat at the table.

The French should make liberal use of gasoline to convince the invaders to leave.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 05, 2018 1:08 PM  

We inspired the French to stand up in the 18th century.
Maybe they return the favor.

Blogger xevious2030 December 05, 2018 1:09 PM  

Yellow vests in France. Marine Le Pen. What of Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson? Not the faces or personalities, but the directions. The reception. The direction of either, in terms of what the people of the UK will be moved by, will separate themselves from the EU under. What is it the people of the UK will turn against, and which of the two directions will help them do that (or both/neither)? Is Farage accurate, or snobbery holier than now (useful/not). Is there a spark in common in France and the UK?

“He predicted ‘absolutely calamitous’ scenes of drunken thugs brawling outside Downing Street will be used to discredit leaving the EU ‘for years to come.’”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/7899373/nigel-farage-quit-ukip-fears-party-turns-bnp/

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2018 1:11 PM  

CM wrote:

I know that it's far more complex than that and the zero sum game seems, from a cursory look, to be fallacious, but I don't understand the economics very well.

I know, theoretically, apart from a gold standard, money can be generated based on Gross value ...


Money isn't wealth, it's a claim on wealth. If that claim isn't based on past production, it is a fraudulent claim.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 05, 2018 1:14 PM  

Is Farage so blinded by class that he rejects what is necessary to save his country because the wrong people are saying it?

This must be why Frodo and Sam, not Aragorn, Boromir, or Faramir, were the real heroes.

Blogger Gen. Kong December 05, 2018 1:17 PM  

Bloodlines, what is known is that nearly all of the current Royalty is on board with the Satanists 100%. Including the Windsors, the Dutch, and the remaining Italian royalty, are all some of the leadership of the NWO all the way to the child trafficking and sacrifices.

There is considerable evidence that this is true. The splits in the church (1054, reformation, etc.) ultimately led to the loss of the church's ability to act as a restraint on monarchs (Henry VIII being an excellent early example). "Do what thou wilt" became the norm with monarchs rather than the exception. All too often, they were the "too big to fail" folks of their time. It's also worth noting that the infamously evil Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi was himself partly a descendant of the Austrian nobility (possibly also from Japanese nobility on his mother's side).

Blogger wahr01 December 05, 2018 1:18 PM  

@59

"you have the same standard of living as someone born in 1800?"

We wish we did.
The essentials, such as housing, education, and food, are MUCH more expensive and much lower in quality than they were in 1800 (when accounting for inflation).

We have plenty of techno-toys but the things we really need have been turned into instruments of debt-slavery through the use of regulations and out-right bans on individuals serving themselves.

Blogger tuberman December 05, 2018 1:18 PM  

Nobody,

"...until you account for cheating..." Ya think? Not trying to be too snarky, but cheating is part of these people's MO forever.

Blogger Slippin JImmy December 05, 2018 1:20 PM  

The difference between California and France is that in the case of the former you can sell up and move to Nevada or Texas or any of the other 47 states. While in theory the French have freedom of movement within the EU, if you're unilingual it's going to be tough going finding employment elsewhere, assuming that economic conditions aren't worse than in France.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2018 1:23 PM  

wahr01 wrote:The essentials, such as housing, education, and food, are MUCH more expensive and much lower in quality than they were in 1800 (when accounting for inflation).

I don' think this is correct.

Blogger CM December 05, 2018 1:25 PM  

you have the same standard of living as someone born in 1800?

It didn't happen overnight, did it?

Was wealth magically created at a snap of the fingers?

Or is growth of wealth a slow gradation over, possibly, decades that is little comfort to someone needing something now?

The slow gradation would be a sliding scale, wouldn't it?

OC says:
Money isn't wealth, it's a claim on wealth. If that claim isn't based on past production, it is a fraudulent claim.

So wealth can't be created out of nothing. But if all the work you put in the last year results in barely making it while your boss is making a ton, then I can see why you aren't looking at wealth as not a zero-sum. You're seeing that what you helped produce is resulting in negligible tradeable gains for yourself at that snapshot in time.

If you need gas to get to the hospital or your job and the people who run the place aren't having those issues while you are, throwing zero-sum theory out there is cold comfort.

Blogger tuberman December 05, 2018 1:25 PM  

65. Stg58/Animal Mother

Can't tell you just how disappointed this has made me. Perhaps there is something we do not know, but, if this is just pure snob mentality, that's sad.

Blogger Crew December 05, 2018 1:26 PM  

“He predicted ‘absolutely calamitous’ scenes of drunken thugs brawling outside Downing Street will be used to discredit leaving the EU ‘for years to come.’”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/7899373/nigel-farage-quit-ukip-fears-party-turns-bnp/


I think Farage has lost the plot. He is afraid of being called racist.

The BNP is what Britain and possibly the UK needs now.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 1:33 PM  

> One might call them France's 'deplorables.'

Miserables, more like it. As in Les Misérables: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMYNfQlf1H8

> But reality seems to fall somewhere closer to the zero-sum than not zero-sum

Within the time frames most people use day to day, economics is a zero-sum game. It takes savings and productive investment of same to grow wealth. That doesn't happen overnight. It takes months or years, sometimes decades.

Blogger Crew December 05, 2018 1:38 PM  

Within the time frames most people use day to day, economics is a zero-sum game. It takes savings and productive investment of same to grow wealth. That doesn't happen overnight. It takes months or years, sometimes decades.

Not only that. Those who have already made it generally don't want to be displaced so they will put all sorts of obstacles in your way.

Blogger Jack December 05, 2018 1:38 PM  

Remember that Macron started his is political party. Voting for him was voting for change without the negative baggage of LePen. The public was duped, and now they are realizing it

Blogger tuberman December 05, 2018 1:40 PM  

Crew,

But you could say that Cucking out on Raciist threats,is an extension of snobbery, as in, "That's Not Who We Are," BS that the "conservatives" fall in line with. Bow tie spinning!

Blogger wahr01 December 05, 2018 1:40 PM  

@70

"I don' think this is correct."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_estate_bubble#/media/File:Case%E2%80%93Shiller_Index.svg

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 1:55 PM  

> The essentials, such as housing, education, and food, are MUCH more expensive and much lower in quality than they were in 1800 (when accounting for inflation).

Two out of three ain't bad. Wrt housing and education, you are almost certainly correct (though the modern house has a lot of creature comforts a house in 1800 didn't have). Wrt food, I don't believe you are correct. We have access to more food and a greater variety of food than ever before.

Blogger Felix Krull December 05, 2018 1:56 PM  

How does a nation that voted 70/30 against LePen move in a couple years to showing more spine (and action) than Trump?

Le Pen is a Commie (social democrat) and Maricon was billed as a business-friendly, immigration-sceptic centrist. Alas, many people bought that lie.

Blogger Iron Spartan December 05, 2018 2:01 PM  

With out politicians and technocrats fleeing France in fear for their lives, without the bodies of said classes decorating lamp posts or floating in the Marne or the Seine, none of this will matter. If the powers that be are allowed to remain in power, then the next time the peasants get ideas they will be met with deadly force from the start. Where do you think the sudden push for an EU spanning military, without a posse comitatus restriction, has come from?

The unnatural peace of Post WWII Europe is drawing to a close. May Madame Guillotine awake thirsty and drink deeply.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 05, 2018 2:01 PM  

It became obvious that Macron is going to be ousted on Sunday, when the video appeared showing the police removing all of their riot gear.

I doubt that any French Army forces will do anything except maybe the French Foreign Legion, and ONLY if there aren't any non-FFL Army units in the vicinity.

Blogger Felix Krull December 05, 2018 2:07 PM  

#65
Great comment, but Farage is not motivated by class resentment, he's just another globalist prostitute, bought and paid for from the get-go.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 05, 2018 2:07 PM  

@7

"
I fear that the call for a republican reform with so many migrants present may lead to some groups agitating they be at the table for the new government. With what later groups have done to the US with its Constitution as a supposed check, God help the French if those groups get a hand in setting up a republic in France."

Or it might just spark a civil war which will solve the problem for the forseeable future, and embolden the rest of Europe to get send the message to their African invaders that "suitcase or coffin" are the only choices on the table.

Blogger Crew December 05, 2018 2:07 PM  

Maybe those French people in the country side have experienced this as well:

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/272123/muslim-migrants-terrorize-sleepy-german-college-daniel-greenfield

Blogger CM December 05, 2018 2:09 PM  

Within the time frames most people use day to day, economics is a zero-sum game. It takes savings and productive investment of same to grow wealth. That doesn't happen overnight. It takes months or years, sometimes decades.

So short time preferences are zero-sum while long time-preferences are not?

Would an economy built on short-time preferences resemble more of a zero sum with long term economic death?

And are the US and European economies built on short time preferences?

Blogger Felix Krull December 05, 2018 2:09 PM  

#76
Just so. The fact is that none of the establishment candidates made it to the run-off, it was between two outsiders.

Except Maricon wasn't a real outsider, but you can fool most of them most of the time.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 05, 2018 2:11 PM  

@9

"Government always becomes the enemy and rules against the best interests of their own people. It then actively tries to destroy them."

Especially whenever (((Satan's chosen people))) have wormed their way into the government.

Why do the Moslem's abhor the Jews?

Because during the Siege of Medina, one night, the Jews opened up the city gates and invited the besiegers to enter.

And by (((Satan's Chosen))), I'm not referring to Hebrews.

Blogger Crew December 05, 2018 2:11 PM  

It became obvious that Macron is going to be ousted on Sunday, when the video appeared showing the police removing all of their riot gear.

Likely to be replaced with another globalist in hopes that the mob will accept any sort of change in lieu of change that helps them.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 05, 2018 2:13 PM  

@14

"I've just returned from 4 years in Luxembourg, which is adjacent to France and have been intimate with a French woman and her family."

Her whole family? That's impressive! Or something.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2018 2:14 PM  

wahr01 wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_estate_bubble#/media/File:Case%E2%80%93Shiller_Index.svg


A real estate bubble has reduced affordability of housing in several countries? That bubble is a result of financializing the housing market. It's recent, and going to be temporary. see this.

I was able to build my current house for about a year's income, and that was also possible a century ago. It's a much nicer house than could have been built a century ago.

If my grandparents were alive, they would tell you that we have it a lot better today than they did in 1919. In the post-WWI boom my grandfather worked many more hours than I do, couldn't get any food out of season, growing up he couldn't afford to finish high school, couldn't afford to buy a house for many years, never in his life had central heating or air conditioning.

Real wages in the US have been stagnant since 1974, but I think we're doing better than 1919, housing bubble and all.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 2:18 PM  

> So short time preferences are zero-sum while long time-preferences are not?

Pretty much, yes.

> Would an economy built on short-time preferences resemble more of a zero sum with long term economic death?

There are lots of examples you can study.

> And are the US and European economies built on short time preferences?

A mixture of both.

Blogger wahr01 December 05, 2018 2:26 PM  

@91

"I was able to build my current house for about a year's income"

Was it 800 miles from a major city, or on the moon?
It will cost a year's income just for the "environmental impact studies" if you want to build it near any major employment center.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 2:30 PM  

> Was it 800 miles from a major city, or on the moon?

We bought an existing home in 1994 on roughly 45 acres of land for $60K. My income at the time was around $40K. This is is about 90 miles from Pittsburgh. I agree that building a new one is more problematic.

Blogger Katechon December 05, 2018 2:51 PM  

They're pissed off over the whole system.

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Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2018 3:12 PM  

wahr01 wrote:It will cost a year's income just for the "environmental impact studies" if you want to build it near any major employment center.

I wouldn't live anywhere there were permits or studies. There are still civilized places in North America.

Blogger bob kuk mando ( everything has Consequences. that what makes them Consequences ) December 05, 2018 3:14 PM  

67. wahr01 December 05, 2018 1:18 PM
We wish we did.
The essentials, such as housing, education, and food, are MUCH more expensive and much lower in quality than they were in 1800


bullshit.

hunger, thirst, disease and cold were regular features of life in the 1800s. the wealthiest of kings had no AC.

people died of sepsis and bacterial infections all the time, to say nothing of viral diseases and child birth.

right now, today, i can drive to an airport less than 15 miles from me and be almost anyplace on the planet in 24hrs or less.

when i was growing up, people were still scared of dying. from the annual flu outbreak. nowadays, you're more likely to have a reaction to the flu shot, if you waste time getting one. polio was still spoken of in hushed terms.

you may not much care for the 'quality' of the products you buy ( nobody is stopping you from making your own ) but you have no lack of quantity. and i was raised by people who still remembered lean times when they would have snow in their bed rooms, because the farm house didn't seal.

and then that got blown away in the Palm Sunday tornadoes.

can you imagine the hay that AGW loons would make with a Palm Sunday outbreak today?

"The outbreak also made that week in April 1965 the second-most-active week in history, with 51 significant and 21 violent tornadoes."

Blogger veryfunnyminion December 05, 2018 3:14 PM  

Apparently the Danes have quitely found a big set of brass balls and a sense of humour.

"Denmark has taken a bold new step in its efforts to combat the influx of illegal aliens: send them to a remote island....From 1926 until earlier this year, Lindholm Island was the site of laboratory facilities to research contagious animal diseases"

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-05/denmark-unveils-unwanted-immigrant-solution-banish-them-remote-disease-research

Blogger veryfunnyminion December 05, 2018 3:15 PM  

quietly found.....

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 3:23 PM  

> hunger, thirst, disease and cold were regular features of life in the 1800s. the wealthiest of kings had no AC.
...

Lot's more snipped.

All true Bob, but that has nothing to do with the cost of a home or the quality of the house as such. Our current home is over 100 years old. Do you expect any home built in the past 30 years to still be standing after that much time?

And the cost and quality of our education system speaks for itself.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 3:26 PM  

> Denmark has taken a bold new step in its efforts to combat the influx of illegal aliens: send them to a remote island...

You know, there's an extremely large "island" just the other side of the Mediterranean Sea from Europe. It sounds perfect for them.

Blogger bob kuk mando ( everything has Consequences. that what makes them Consequences ) December 05, 2018 3:36 PM  

101. James Dixon December 05, 2018 3:23 PM
Do you expect any home built in the past 30 years to still be standing after that much time?



i regularly deal with foundation repair.

a monolithic pour basement is FAR better than a field stone, Michigan wall. especially if you bother grading the yard out and installing proper gutter / downspout / drain tile solutions.

which they didn't really pay much attention too a hundred years ago.

the real junk houses tend to be the stuff from the housing booms of the 50s to 70s.



101. James Dixon December 05, 2018 3:23 PM
And the cost and quality of our education system speaks for itself.


a - education cost is entirely decoupled from quality in the age of the internet

b - if you sent your children to a public school, you have no one to blame but yourself

c - physical books are far more freely available since the 20th century than at any time in the 19th and any community of any size has already got a library. which wasn't true in 1800.

Blogger wahr01 December 05, 2018 3:38 PM  

@98

no, NOT "bullshit"

People were able to buy housing, food, and access other essentials AT THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY OF THE TIME for far less as a proportion of income than now.

The presence of techno-clutter doesn't make that any different.
The advancement of medical technology and science doesn't make that any different.

You'll note those outbreaks of disease, etc, happened in wealthy as well as poor neighborhoods.

You don't get to act as if the normal advancement of technology somehow makes average people wealthier today when they're having to work 3 part time jobs for a slave box and eat processed garbage that makes them into blimps.

Blogger Foehammer December 05, 2018 3:41 PM  

It took the French longer to reach this point than I anticipated. For the past year, I honestly thought they had given up on themselves entirely. Now I need more popcorn. We all must support the French in spirit and in words. Do not let them go back to sleep until more of Europe wakes.

Blogger Mr Darcy December 05, 2018 3:41 PM  

Can confirm.

I've been reading Résistance républicaine website and the Ligue du Midi website since lunch, and it is beginning to seem to me that this is a right-wing movement, specifically nationalist and *identitarian.* Explanation below.

On both sites there are articles dated today, referring to the attempts of "leftists" to horn in on the Yellow Vest uprising.

Here's a quick translation of an article dated today from the Ligue du Midi site:

"Lots of people demonstrated in downtown Bordeaux Saturday 1 Dec. At least three times the number of the preceding Saturday. The prefect [of police] had prohibited [the demonstration] and that certainly discouraged a lot of [would-be] protestors. Although on 27 Nov the cops had accompanied the crowd, rerouting traffic to avoid incidents, this time things turned out to be less calm. The police, with fewer numbers, blocked the marchers and used tear gas and "flashballs" to compensate for their numerical inferiority. Result: Numerous injuries, some of them serious, the flashballs having hit some people in the face. Leftists managed to insinuate themselves into the crowd, but the demonstrators were able to kick them out. Same thing with the trades union folks, who arrived with cars and loudspeakers and got booed and then [they] pitifully turned tail. As we have [already] shared [with you], this is a time of heated revolt; of refusal of what the govt wants to impose upon us: financial suffocation of working people and of retirees under the false [lit.: "lying" = "mensongers" in the orig.] pretext of catastrophic climate change. Don't give an inch. We are the country; we are France. They have to go back [orig.: "Ils doivent partir."]

Source:
https://liguedumidi.com/sur-le-front-de-la-jacquerie-des-gilets-jaunes/

So there is direct mention of the yellow vest marchers expelling "leftists" and trades unionists from the march, and direct mention of working people and retirees being suffocated by the govt's lunacy.

But what I think might be most telling of all is their use of the phrases "We are the country. We are France." because, to me anyway, that seem to be a direct reference to or echo of the PEGIDA slogan "Wir sind das Volk."

The Ligue du Midi is a self-declared "identitarian" organization.

Also, at Résistance républicaine site today is an outtake of a Facebook Live post by a man by the name of Eric Drouet, a trucker:

"Next Saturday it's all over. Next Saturday [meaning the 8th] will be the final culmination[meaning, I interpret, that things will come to a head]. Saturday it will be we who will have the stranglehold [upper hand] on all of this stuff; it is we who are going to decide what will happen … Law enforcement will end up joining us … "

Source:
http://resistancerepublicaine.eu/2018/12/05/gilets-jaunes-acte-iv-samedi-8-decembre/

RR is also running a cartoon of Macron (who is being called "the Brown Plague") talking with Marie Antoinette. She is saying her "Let them eat cake" thing and he is saying, "If they don't want to pay the fuel tax, let them buy an electric car."

Source:
http://resistancerepublicaine.eu/2018/12/05/pierre-cassen-macron-est-trop-hai-pour-rester-a-la-tete-du-pays-video/

So they are lumping Macron with Marie Antoinette …

The US "press" doesn't bother.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2018 3:43 PM  

James Dixon wrote:Our current home is over 100 years old. Do you expect any home built in the past 30 years to still be standing after that much time?

Yes, even the boom-time tract houses will probably last that long, if you keep them dry. I was a construction laborer in the late '70s, and saw the crap they were building. They weren't good, but a new roof every thirty years and they'll do.

Blogger Marcus S Jones December 05, 2018 3:46 PM  

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Blogger Felix Krull December 05, 2018 3:50 PM  

#99
It's kabuki from the fake nationalist government, they're trying to quell a voter insurrection. They launch such theater initiatives with regular intervals to distract from the fact that they do nothing to stem the influx of jihadis.

The so-called repatriation center is simply an open prison wing for illegals with a criminal record in Denmark, they'll be ferried over to the mainland and allowed to roam free during daytime.

Also, it's meant to contain less than 150 delinquents. And will never be built, so there's that too.

Blogger Mr Darcy December 05, 2018 3:51 PM  

@60 Nobody of Consequence:

Voting is pointless now. There are no democratic solutions for the problems wrought by democracy. It's a simple as that. Some other solution is indicated.

Blogger JimR December 05, 2018 3:52 PM  

"Our current home is over 100 years old. Do you expect any home built in the past 30 years to still be standing after that much time?"

Observer bias, the houses built 100 years ago that fell down, burned down, slid off their foundations and such, are gone, so of course you don't see them. Tarpaper shacks and crappy clapboard homes are long gone.
Can you build quality today? damn straight you can! Just as you could then, but we've made a lot of strides in construction material improvements that were simply un available 100 years ago

Blogger Felix Krull December 05, 2018 3:54 PM  

#that seem to be a direct reference to or echo of the PEGIDA slogan "Wir sind das Volk."

"Wir sind das Volk" was the slogan of the East Germans who made the Hoenecker-government fold in 1989. Very powerful words.

Blogger Mr Darcy December 05, 2018 3:55 PM  

About standard of living in 1800 vs now, I always say this: At least we have modern dentistry.

Blogger Mr Darcy December 05, 2018 3:57 PM  

@112 F Krull:

Thanks for that info. I didn't know that. So the PEGIDA folks borrowed it. But my point was that those words are now appearing on a French identitarian website, and my guess is that they mean it to echo PEGIDA, but that's just a guess.

Thanks for your reply!

Blogger Marcus S Jones December 05, 2018 3:59 PM  

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Blogger Mr Darcy December 05, 2018 4:01 PM  

@85 Crew:

They have indeed. Numerous ordinary Frenchmen have been beheaded by the Muzzies. Résistance républicaine website has done an outstanding job of covering that sort of thing through the years.

And on a related subject, as some comments here speak of armed rebellion in France: I remember reading on numerous French websites during the extraordinary summer of 2015 that ordinary Frenchmen were actively buying guns.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2018 4:02 PM  

wahr01 wrote:People were able to buy housing, food, and access other essentials AT THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY OF THE TIME for far less as a proportion of income than now.

Still not seeing it.

I'll say it again: real incomes have stagnated since 1974. Until 1974, real incomes were rising. That means that my parents had more real income than my grandparents, but I didn't get more real income than my parents.

In 1919, my grandfather was 31. He worked six days a week, and was renting a house and feeding a wife and child. He's not around to ask for specifics, but as I recall his stories, pretty much everything went to necessities. Grandma was having to work outside the house occasionally.

My father worked a 40 hour week, and did much better than grandpa, because of that rising real income thing. I work a 40 hour week, and do slightly less well than my father did a few decades ago, because of the stagnant real wages since I started working, and because of the housing bubble.

Today we count as necessities things that my parents counted as luxuries, and my grandparents counted as unattainable. We might spend more time earning those ``necessities,'' but we spend a good deal less time earning what grandpa considered necessary.

Blogger Mr Darcy December 05, 2018 4:03 PM  

@90 D Manly:

Made me laugh.

Blogger wahr01 December 05, 2018 4:08 PM  

@117

You and KekMando are doing the lolbertarian version of SJW history ret-conning: applying the standards of today to centuries ago.

Necessities (housing, food, education) were objectively cheaper back then, even if they weren't as advanced. If you didn't have a middle-class income, you could build it yourself without government interference for a 50% to 70% discount on the "retail price".

You can't do that anymore, thanks to boomers regulating it away, and in so doing pulling the ladder up with them.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook December 05, 2018 4:09 PM  

They were better off with the monarchs to be honest. What a great god reason turned out to be.

Blogger Marcus S Jones December 05, 2018 4:09 PM  

La France championne des impôts [France, world tax champions]

Blogger Mr Darcy December 05, 2018 4:12 PM  

A note about my post above:

I translated "Ils doivent partir" as "They have to go back" b/c I was linking it to their "We are France" statement, but I ought to have pointed out that "Ils doivent partir" could mean simply "They have to go," referring to the government. Gramatically, "Ils doivet partir" does mean simply "They have to go." But I was editorializing, and I'm not retracting my translation, just saying why I wrote it the way I did.

Blogger bob kuk mando ( everything has Consequences. that what makes them Consequences ) December 05, 2018 4:14 PM  

104. wahr01 December 05, 2018 3:38 PM
People were able to buy housing, food, and access other essentials AT THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY OF THE TIME for far less as a proportion of income than now.


that is so retarded.

"In Colonial America, agriculture was the primary livelihood for 90% of the population, and most towns were shipping points for the export of agricultural products. Most farms were geared toward subsistence production for family use."

ie - these people spent THE ENTIRE YEAR working to feed themselves. if they were lucky, they'd have a little bit left over to sell at market. and then maybe they could afford to buy some whale oil to burn in their lamps.

if they were unlucky, they went hungry. sometimes they starved.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Great_Famine_%28Ireland%29

they had NEITHER quantity NOR quality. remember, 1800 was before canning and refrigeration. what are you going to be eating in April on the high plains of Montana? except for fresh kills, it's ALL going to be rancid, meat and vegetable alike. and you can forget about fruits altogether until well into the summer. you'd better enjoy jerky.

their houses were 'inexpensive' because THEY TENDED TO BUILD THEIR OWN.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Sod_house

you don't like how expensive your house is? there isn't anyone preventing from building your own today. take notes from the Amish.

you're sitting here comparing the surviving Century houses ( by definition, either the highest quality of their respective era OR houses which have been renovated or added to multiple times over the years, otherwise they'd have been torn down decades ago ) to current mass production.

that's not a like v like comparison.

and you seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that the "technology of the time" ( also, productivity ) hadn't changed significantly in thousands of years.

modern production tolerances and QC have revolutionized manufacturing in the last 200 years.

that's where the Wealth ( productivity ) explosion came from.

but that's back to the original question of whether society has been Zero Sum or not.

and it clearly has not been.

if you're unhappy with your working class wages
...
end immigration and free trade.

immigration drives down lower class wages WITHIN the nation.

free trade exposes lower classes to WAGE and productivity competition with 3rd world populations.

that's the root of your complaint.

Blogger Mr Darcy December 05, 2018 4:23 PM  

@115 MS Jones:

The RR site today shows that ordinary Frenchmen pay 300-odd taxes, so you are right. Thanks for the info.

Blogger Mr Darcy December 05, 2018 4:24 PM  

Modern dentistry, gentlemen. Modern dentistry.

Gotta run.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 05, 2018 4:24 PM  

The haters are just mad because they haven't discovered Replaceable Parts yet.

Blogger wahr01 December 05, 2018 4:25 PM  

@123

Thanks for making my point for me.
The average household was able to be self-sufficient!
My guess is you couldn't even repair, let alone build, your own toaster.

Blogger Feurfeur December 05, 2018 4:32 PM  

Macron is a pure swamp creature. He was selected and groomed to be president, with the help of the media who did a real hit job on the center-right candidate François Fillon. Anything to be against Marine Le Pen (literaly Hitler) during the 2nd round, ensuring a sure win.

Many people disliked him but voted for him anyway. Many people stayed home. So he was never really liked by French people, except by millenials living in Paris and other urban centers who really believed his bullshit about change and the "start-up nation".

Back to the Gilets Jaunes movement, there's been a lot of entryism by leftists since the movement began. They're actively trying to coopt the movement and push their usual bullshit. The media have been inviting professionnal leftists posing as Gilets Jaunes.
The worst rioters were clearly far-left and "diversity" from the banlieues but the media and the government have been trying to pin it on the "ultra-right". Let's hope that this time people won't swallow the usual media lies.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2018 4:33 PM  

wahr01 wrote:If you didn't have a middle-class income, you could build it yourself without government interference for a 50% to 70% discount on the "retail price".

You can still do that today, if you live in the country. You couldn't do it in 1919 if you were inside the big city.

Thanks to that rising real wage I was writing about, my parents and grandparents didn't have to subsistence farm like my great grandparents did.

Blogger Pierre Truc December 05, 2018 4:35 PM  

The American in Paris that Vox quotes is right. If anything, his report is an understatement. Media reports are full of lies.

wahr01 wrote:How does a nation that voted 70/30 against LePen move in a couple years to showing more spine (and action) than Trump?

1) What makes you think there was no fraud ?

2) Macron had all the media working for him and truly excellent propaganda team, very good persuasion techniques. People basically woke up a few months later with a hangover, lots of butthurt and a strong feeling of "what have I done?"

3) Final results were 66% Macron but 25% of registered voters did not actually vote. Macron was not elected by a majority of registered voters.

pyrrhus wrote:the ordinary people do not look happy, while Africans lounge around in 2000 year old towns...

Moreover, and for extra humiliation, we are not legally allowed to complain about this in public, it is hate speech...

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 4:48 PM  

> Observer bias, the houses built 100 years ago that fell down, burned down, slid off their foundations and such, are gone,

What are the percentages involved in each case?

> Can you build quality today? damn straight you can!

Sure you can. That wasn't the question. What is the quality of the homes that are being built? I'm sure there are homes that will last. Again, what are the percentages?

> We might spend more time earning those ``necessities,'' but we spend a good deal less time earning what grandpa considered necessary.

The exact quote was "The essentials, such as housing, education, and food, are MUCH more expensive and much lower in quality than they were in 1800"

The quote is correct about the education system and about housing. I don't think it's correct about food. Is there more to the equation than that? Sure, and a lot of it makes life much easier/better. Electric lighting, electric appliances such as washing machines and dishwashers, clothes dryers, hot running water, indoor plumbing, modern electronics and computers, medical advances, etc.

But that doesn't change the fact that the quoted statement is correct on two of it's three counts.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 4:52 PM  

> My guess is you couldn't even repair, let alone build, your own toaster.

You could, but not an electric one, since you wouldn't have had any electric service.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2018 5:25 PM  

"The quote is correct about the education system and about housing."

Not correct about housing. You could build a 400 square foot uninsulated shotgun shack with an outhouse pretty cheaply today, just as you could in 1919. None of us would choose to live like that, because unlike our grandparents in 1919, we don't have to! . More of that rising realwages thing you keep ignoring.

Blogger Unknown December 05, 2018 5:31 PM  

..and they wonder why there is a huge population of French people living and working in London.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 5:36 PM  

> You could build a 400 square foot uninsulated shotgun shack with an outhouse pretty cheaply today, just as you could in 1919.

If the local government would allow you to do so, yes. I'm pretty sure it would still cost far more than it did then, even allowing for inflation, because the land on which it was built would cost more. I'm open to correction on that matter though.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 5:38 PM  

> More of that rising realwages thing you keep ignoring.

Do you know how old I was when real wages stopped rising? Unlike many here, I was actually alive then. I was all of 15. No, I wasn't working yet. Wages have been stagnant my entire working life.

Blogger Gen. Kong December 05, 2018 5:41 PM  

While the early 19th century had some positive aspects for many, having surgery wasn't one of them. One of London's most famous and sought-after surgeons of the day, Dr. Liston (who invented the lancet later used by Jack the Ripper), managed to pull off a single surgery with a 300% mortality rate (patient, assistant and a bystander all dead). One was generally better off going to see a witch-doctor in those days. The medical profession has certainly improved since then but not as much as they want everyone to think.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 05, 2018 5:50 PM  

We bought an existing home in 1994 on roughly 45 acres of land for $60K.
I can't speak for the East, but around here, that 45 acres with well and septic would run around $500,000 now. And that's for remote unfarmable land with drainage problems. What you were able to do 25 years ago has nothing whatever todo with the current bubble market.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume December 05, 2018 6:28 PM  

I see Ace of Spades is reporting that the French Police Union is ordering non-essential personnel to strike.

Blogger Avalanche December 05, 2018 6:41 PM  

@14 "Imagine defacing the Arc de Triomph!!! Like the Lincoln Memorial....."

The Lincoln Memorial SHOULD be defaced! Not le Arc... Lincoln was a destroyer of this country!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2018 6:45 PM  


"Do you know how old I was when real wages stopped rising? Unlike many here, I was actually alive then. I was all of 15. No, I wasn't working yet. Wages have been stagnant my entire working life."

I was 13. Wages climbed quite a bit between 100 years ago and 1974. Thanks to the globalists, neither of us experienced that firsthand.

Blogger Crew December 05, 2018 7:19 PM  

There are some really cucked churches out there. I doubt they could get away with that in France now!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/church-puts-baby-jesus-in-cage-for-immigration-themed-nativity-scene/

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2018 8:08 PM  

> What you were able to do 25 years ago has nothing whatever todo with the current bubble market.

I believe that $60K home is currently assessed at about $120K. I'd have to look up the exact figure. In other words it's pretty much just kept up with inflation. It's not a bubble everywhere.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 05, 2018 8:10 PM  

@130

"

Moreover, and for extra humiliation, we are not legally allowed to complain about this in public, it is hate speech..."

Anonymous leafletting.

Leave a pile of leaflets under a newspaper left on a table. Or broadcast in public spaces in the dark of the night.

Blogger blue collar dave December 05, 2018 8:48 PM  

"I've been reading Résistance républicaine ..."
Thanks for the update for us monolinguists.

Blogger bob kuk mando ( everything has Consequences. that what makes them Consequences ) December 05, 2018 10:04 PM  

127. wahr01 December 05, 2018 4:25 PM
My guess is you couldn't even repair, let alone build, your own toaster.


i have a Associates degree in Electronics and it doesn't get much simpler than a toaster, which is a resistive heater element connected in series to a timer with a spring loaded ejection mechanism.

pay up.


127. wahr01 December 05, 2018 4:25 PM
The average household was able to be self-sufficient!


if by "self-sufficient" you mean "starve to death on a semi-regular basis".

how that indicates MORE Wealth than anyone living the US today, i have no idea.

also, you can have all the Self Sufficiency you want, any time you want. people live off the grid all over the Western US.

heck, i know where there is a house out west of Hightown VA ( Highland County being the most sparsely populated area east of the Mississippi ) on US-250 that has no electric or land line phone service.

don't blame me for your own cowardice.

Blogger S.D. Joe December 05, 2018 10:55 PM  

130. Pierre Truc

....Moreover, and for extra humiliation, we are not legally allowed to complain about this in public, it is hate speech...


MERCI, JUIFS!!

Blogger Roman Daoist December 06, 2018 7:08 AM  

I read in Collapse of Complex Societies how collapse is sometimes a people just making rational economic decisions - to not continue to participate in the status quo if when there's negligable net benefit. Then shit happens.

The news did show it was a lot of middle aged whities. And as has been noticed more than once, us whites tend to have a higher tolerance but once that's breached, things change.

So this shift of attitude from among normal people (as opposed to career activists/ weekend warriors/ opportunistic migrants) may well be significant. And it's significant that they aren't impressed by the 6 mnth tax hike delay. I thought if they accepted that then the whole thing would fizzle out.

And the not insignificant proportion of civil servants 'turning their back' actually or figuratively - is not a positive indicator for the status quo.

Point again, if Mr and Mrs White actively and en-masse with-hold participation, then it may only be a matter of time before 'select' people are getting run out of town.

Blogger Mr Darcy December 06, 2018 9:55 AM  

@140 avalanche

Bravo!

Blogger Mr Darcy December 06, 2018 10:14 AM  

@145 blue collar dave

Roger that. Very welcome. A friend sent me this but she didn't cite the source. Said it's from "social media in France" and that she couldn't vouch for it other than that. But it confirms something I had read yesterday, which I didn't mention above:

my quick translation:

"To the general population. This is the calm before the storm!!! Set aside provisions, gasoline/oil. Stock up on food and medications!!! We are going to blockade everything on 10 December!!! We’ll stop when what we demand is actually done!!! We are fed up with being taken for idiots!!! We want to live, not merely survive!!! Join us on 10 December!! NO school, NO government functions! NO stores [open for business]!! We’re blocking airport entrances & exits!! The major public spaces! Offices!! [La Srpp – no idea]!! This is to notify the population!!! Join us at the different barricades, or [just] stay home [on Monday]! We Yellow Vests are nonviolent and we want actions, not just pretty words!!! December 10 TOGETHER!!!!&#65279"

orig. text (I don't have a link):
"Nous nous adressons à la population, c'est le calme avant la tempête !!! Faites des provisions, de l'essence /gazoil, faites le pleins en nourriture et médicaments !!! Nous allons tout bloquer dès le 10 décembre !!! Nous nous arrêterons quand se que nous demandons sera réellement mis en place !!! Assez de nous prendre pour des cons !! Nous voulons vivre et non survivre !!! Rejoignez nous le10 décembre !! Aucune école, aucune administration ! Ouverte !! Aucun magasin !! Nous bloquerons les accès et sorties d'aéroport !!les grandes surfaces ! Les bureaux !! La Srpp !! Nous prévenons la population !!! Rejoignez nous au différents barrages ou restez chez vous ! Nous les GJ sommes non violents et ne voulons pas que de belles paroles mais des actes !!! LE 10 DÉCEMBRE TOUS ENSEMBLE !!!!"


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