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Sunday, December 02, 2018

This is... unusual

Nothing to see, just a top naval officer down. Move along now....
Vice Adm. Scott Stearney, who oversaw U.S. naval forces in the Middle East, was found dead Saturday in his residence in Bahrain, officials said. Defense officials told CBS News they are calling it an "apparent suicide."

Stearney was the commander of the U.S. Navy's Bahrain-based 5th Fleet. Rear Adm. Paul Schlise, the deputy commander of the 5th Fleet, has assumed command, the Navy said in a statement.

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Blogger Servant of the Chief December 02, 2018 1:46 PM  

Planes falling out of the sky more than usual, after a device has been found to be installed in the engines to 'prevent stalling' that also prevents pilots from pulling out of nosedives. High level officers keeling over, politicians suddenly dropping out of decades long held offices.

Nothing to see here folks. No secret war happening under the cover of night, no cloak and dagger skulduggery going on here, go back to sleep.

Blogger A rebel without a General December 02, 2018 1:47 PM  

Maybe he got caught in a younger mans pants this is the navy after all.

Blogger Silly but True December 02, 2018 1:48 PM  

Stearney's Operation Bacha Bazi maneuvers did not go as planned?

Blogger Ingot9455 December 02, 2018 1:48 PM  

Let me guess - hung himself from a doorknob?

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim December 02, 2018 1:48 PM  

There's is definitely something fishy going on with the Navy. Incompetence, the exalting of drag queen sailors... God help us when we get into a naval conflict.

Blogger Ryan G December 02, 2018 1:54 PM  

This is something that happens in the military, and it is far more common than the general public is aware of. It's such a problem, in fact, that there were times we were given specific "suicide awareness and prevention training". Didn't matter what your rank was, either.

The particular example brought up in my training was a man who was the first to person to complete the STA-21 program (Seaman to Admiral in 21 years). This guy clawed his way up the ranks from a lowly E1 all the way to O7 and still ended up killing himself.

I also personally witnessed someone commit suicide with a pistol, and cleaned up the aftermath of another, and I was only in for five years.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that people shouldn't start trying to read tea leaves just because the guy was an admiral. Service members, sadly, seem to have a higher suicide rate than the general public.

Blogger Steven Johnson December 02, 2018 1:56 PM  

Especially admirals, for some reason, Jeremy Boorda being the most high-profile that I remember.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 02, 2018 2:28 PM  

Cui bono?

Blogger Meanoldbasterd December 02, 2018 2:30 PM  

I was in the army for 5 years active, 10 reserve and concur. Higher suicide rate for sure. Mostly personal problems and stress.

Blogger Aquila Aquilonis December 02, 2018 2:30 PM  

Was it the Chinese, Russians or Israelis?

Blogger Nate December 02, 2018 2:34 PM  

As someone who as in the Navy, depressed, and damn near blew off my own head, there can be a crushing feeling of moral responsibility for the actions of the Navy as a whole. On the other hand...Clintons.

Blogger DonReynolds December 02, 2018 2:38 PM  

Churchill said that during wartime, the truth is so precious it must be protected by a bodyguard of lies. Some of the truth may be released fifty years later, which seems to be the magic number. (LBJ promised that the truth about the Kennedy assassination would not be released until fifty years after his own death.) It is only in the past few years that some of the truth about WWII operations have been made public. Shucks, there are aspects about the American Civil War that remain a mystery.

If any of the young guys here want a real mystery, look up James Forrestal. He was the first Secretary of Defense and by any account one of the more capable and competent individuals in 20th century America. He is still well-regarded and respected.

Blogger Damelon Brinn December 02, 2018 2:46 PM  

There was a press conference in South Carolina last week about Operation Surprise Party, which caught 15 prison inmates and an unknown number of outside accomplices who pretended to be women on dating sites and got military men to trade nudes, then told them the girl was underage and blackmailed them. There were a surprising number of bigshots in attendance at the presser for what seemed like a basic criminal matter, enough that /pol/ was watching in case it was a Happening. They did say over 400 military personnel at all levels were scammed, and that this was only the first stage of the investigation.

No idea if there's a connection, but that's the first thing that came to mind.

Blogger Servant of the Chief December 02, 2018 3:06 PM  

Given the way things are, as stressful as military life is ordinarily, (lets make no bones about it, it can be straining), with the way things are it wouldn't surprise me if servicemen were being artificially demoralised intentionally, especially the higher ups. Could be wrong of course, it'd probably be best to compare modern military suicide rates with those of the past to see if we can find any discrepencies.

Blogger JaimeInTexas December 02, 2018 3:13 PM  

Ambiguity on military goals probably does not help.

Blogger Zaklog the Great December 02, 2018 3:20 PM  

So what did he know about Hillary Clinton?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 02, 2018 3:24 PM  

The grin he's got in his official picture is offputting.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 02, 2018 3:25 PM  

What did he know about the Clinton's?

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 December 02, 2018 3:27 PM  

Reminds me of the HHS official investigating big Pharma and was dead of apparent suicide.

From multiple blunt force trauma.

Blogger English Tom December 02, 2018 3:48 PM  

@Don Reynolds

Forrestal told one of his neighbours that US troops would be fighting and dying in Korea, 18 months before that conflict started. He was suicided.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 02, 2018 3:57 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:The grin he's got in his official picture is offputting.

Come on dude, those are always off putting and you know it.

Tell me yours wasn't grounds for a psyche eval.

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 02, 2018 3:59 PM  

@21

Although I do admit that any kind of a smile is unheard of in an official military bio-photo.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 02, 2018 4:02 PM  

I didn't grin for any picture, Cataline.

Blogger Matamoros December 02, 2018 4:05 PM  

US Admiral Scott Stearney Assassinated in Bahrain? Related to False Flag (Fake Iranian Attack on US Naval Vessel)

https://phibetaiota.net/2018/12/robert-steele-us-admiral-scott-stearney-murdered-in-bahrain-rumored-to-have-opposed-false-flag-zionists-will-fake-iranian-attack-on-us-naval-vessel/

Blogger tublecane December 02, 2018 4:19 PM  

@7- Didn't the admiral in charge of the Indianapolis off himself? Or did I imagine that?

Blogger Dirk Manly December 02, 2018 4:40 PM  

@7

"Especially admirals, for some reason, Jeremy Boorda being the most high-profile that I remember."

About a week before, Col (P) (Ret.) David Hackworth had noted in a nationally syndicated column (carried on WND if anyone wants to find it) that Boorda was improperly wearing a V device on one of his ribbons (the V indicates that the recipient demonstrating Valor in the course of whatever act(s) earned him the medal. The medal in question was one of the typical "Commanding officer's package" of medals which every CO who doesn't screw up majorly, qualifies for under the requirements for the awards.

Personally, I think they should abolish the "Commander's pack" and replace them with a single Commanded in Combat Operations Medal, as the automatic award for just doing the assigned duties of the rank rather cheapens such awards as the Bronze Star, which even Senior NCOs typically have to perform some outstanding act of bravery or successfully take charge of a large body of men due to all senior leaders being incapacitated, AND lead the remaining members of that body to do great things until replacement officers and NCOs arrive to refill the holes in the Table of Organization.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 02, 2018 4:42 PM  

@10

"Was it the Chinese, Russians or Israelis?"

Isreali or British CIA, dropping 1 or 2 subtle clues that they might have been Russian.

[Yes, I know Mossad & MI-6. That's the point.]

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 02, 2018 5:08 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:I didn't grin for any picture, Cataline.

My own bootcamp picture was a classic, "crazed Ex-Marine climbed the tower..." photo.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 02, 2018 5:10 PM  

I just had the standard boot camp stare

Blogger Gen. Kong December 02, 2018 5:20 PM  

Haven't seen any reports of the departed admiral found hanging from a doorknob, usually a method of 'message suicide' sent by cabal as an example for those thinking of talking. There was some lower level official in the Banana bureaucracy connected with healthcare or pharma who recently was suicided by multiple blunt-force trauma to the head (maybe banged his head against the wall one too many times), which is a remarkable example of how brazen the lying has gotten. CIA, et al have endless number of ways to suicide those they need to get rid of. Not sure if this character was a Stepford Admiral of the Imperial Fleet or someone who wasn't so keen on endless wars for the sake of certain 'eternal frenz of Murika' in the region. If the mysterious 'Novichok' surfaces we'll have a good idea who who done it.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 02, 2018 5:20 PM  

Even my own grandmother would not display my boot camp pic, serial killer level photo

Blogger Mister Excitement December 02, 2018 5:32 PM  

One of the biggest reasons the military is stressful is so many Gammas,,weirdos,a-holes, and hostile minorities not suited for leadership are placed in leadership positions.

It's an epidemic. Here is a video from the Naval War College specifically about toxic leadership:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrNtfBNwuoE

The speaker, also a professor at the War College, polls the audience of students (senior officers attending the War College) about whether they've ever worked for a toxic leader.

Thirty percent respond in the affirmative. I personally think that has to be way too low. Seventy percent of the audience has never worked for a toxic person in their entire career? Hard to believe.

Blogger JaimeInTexas December 02, 2018 6:03 PM  

@25
The story of McVay is a sad one. For years he re ived calls and letters blaming him for what happened to the USS Indianapolis.
McVay could not take it anymore.

Blogger DJT December 02, 2018 6:17 PM  

If we weren't involved in all these foreign conflicts, I bet we would see less suicides. Maybe nearly none.

Men don't need to be convinced to fight for their own homes and lands against invaders. They only need training for doing so effectively.

But it takes a lot of conditioning–unhealthy amounts–to risk your life for foreigners in foreign lands that pose no benefit to you at all. Literal brainwashing.

That's my opinion of the high level of violence and suicide coming from retired soldiers (some of which become cops and go on to treat civilians like terrorists).

As for this particular case, we can only speculate.

Blogger Ken Prescott December 02, 2018 6:25 PM  

If we weren't involved in all these foreign conflicts, I bet we would see less suicides. Maybe nearly none.

Back in the 1980s, we were about as foreign conflict-free as we ever were. We had suicides semi-regularly for things like getting passed over for promotion and getting SERB'd, failing rifle range qualification (tasteless joke was the guy needed an extra bullet), finding out one's wife/girlfriend was getting it on with Jody, etc. Looking at the rates, it was about higher than what it is today.

Blogger Cloudbuster December 02, 2018 6:35 PM  

Military suicides are not notably higher than suicides among men in the general population. What makes them appear higher is that the military is heavily male, and male suicides are vastly higher than female suicides. All the hype on this compares "general population" (male & female) with "military" (lots of male & and a few female) to come up with the large disparity.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 02, 2018 6:38 PM  

"Even my own grandmother would not display my boot camp pic, serial killer level photo"

Almost my entire bootcamp division would joke about how that photo managed to make us look like we'd just been raped.

I remember having a particularly demoralizing song that seemingly composed itself playing in my head through most of bootcamp.

Blogger Cloudbuster December 02, 2018 6:41 PM  

DJT wrote:
But it takes a lot of conditioning–unhealthy amounts–to risk your life for foreigners in foreign lands that pose no benefit to you at all. Literal brainwashing.


I address the supposed excess of military suicides in my previous post. As the parent and son and friend of many soldiers and sailors, what you need to consider is that men like to fight. There aren't a lot of outlets in society for that sort of thing. My son didn't need to be brainwashed to be a career soldier. It's a very different life than civilian life, and very rewarding in some specific, masculine ways. This may not be apparent to many soldiers who are not, specifically combat arms
-- POGs -- but if you're airborne, ranger, special forces, etc., it's a different world and there isn't a lot of opportunity for that kind of life in the civilian world.

Blogger Daniel December 02, 2018 6:50 PM  

Amateurs. In Argentina the fiscal (prosecutor I think) suicided the day before he was going to make his case against Cristina Kirchner (the president) to the congress

Blogger Warunicorn December 02, 2018 6:52 PM  

"Apparent suicide."

You know, years ago, I would have swallowed this pill whole. Now? Not so much. Just a thought.

Blogger Bill Chunko December 02, 2018 7:24 PM  

#6 Ryan G. Nobody goes from E-1 to O-7 in 21 years. Nobody!

Blogger Hunsdon December 02, 2018 7:31 PM  

To quote from "Pulp Fiction," it's the little differences that make a difference. At least back in the day, USA, USN, USAF and USCG would take your ID card photo right when you hit boot camp. The Suck waited until you were about to graduate. So soldiers, sailors, airmen and coasties looked shit scared in their initial ID card photos. Marines looked like they were ready to eat your heart.

Good times.

Blogger CYGNUS FACETIOUS December 02, 2018 7:43 PM  

Fat Leonard of the Middle East? The Air Force seems to have glow-in-the-dark spookery baked-in, but the Navy (e.g. Forrestal as JFK confidant; LSD ambush, psychiatric hospitalization, handbook 'auto'-defenestration killing) and Marines may be aligned differently. Long past due for counter wet-workarounds against subversion of the military from 5th columns at the least, tit for tat.

Blogger Dirk Manly December 02, 2018 7:51 PM  

And the Navy's culture exacerbates both the misuse of power by officers over subordinates, and blame-shifting onto subordinates. It's been that way since at least the Civil War, and probably goes all the way back to the Royal Navy.

Blogger Cecil Henry December 02, 2018 11:04 PM  

Latest Navy "Suicide" Recalls Murder of Admiral Jeremy Boorda



The "suicide" of Vice Admiral Scott Stearney, 58, head of US Navy Central Command, has given rise to speculation he opposed a Zionist-sponsored false flag designed to provoke US military action against Iran.


It recalls the murder ("suicide") of Admiral Jeremy Bourda in 1996 and trains a spotlight on US military culture.



https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/12/The-Murder-of-Admiral-Jeremy-Boorda.html

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey December 02, 2018 11:44 PM  

@DonReynolds

This is a good source on Forrestal's "suicide" -- link is to short version, but it's worth reading the whole thing.

http://www.dcdave.com/article4/030528.html

Blogger Bob Loblaw December 02, 2018 11:58 PM  

Silly but True wrote:Stearney's Operation Bacha Bazi maneuvers did not go as planned?

If that were the case he probably would have been okay.

Most senior naval officers who get removed from their position get removed for "zipper control" problems, and it's almost always women. I don't think gay men find status as attractive as women.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 03, 2018 12:04 AM  

Forrestal was head of MJ-12.
Dulles had him killed by first having him committed and then a couple days later, swapped out his guard with some new guy who had him tossed out of the high story window.

Blogger LAZ December 03, 2018 12:34 AM  

"But it takes a lot of conditioning–unhealthy amounts–to risk your life for foreigners in foreign lands that pose no benefit to you at all. Literal brainwashing."

As pointed out to me by my retired Colonel father- Why do you think they push alcohol consumption?

"That's my opinion of the high level of violence and suicide coming from retired soldiers (some of which become cops and go on to treat civilians like terrorists)."

I sound like a broken record, but we need 2-3 year mandatory waiting period between military service and LEO.

Blogger Resident Moron™ December 03, 2018 12:53 AM  

Right-wing party called "VOX" wins seats in Andalusia, Spain.

Coincidence?!??

Blogger Tars Tarkusz December 03, 2018 10:06 AM  

A suicide? Wonder if he knew the Clintons and had something on them...

Blogger Dirk Manly December 03, 2018 6:11 PM  

OT: https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/isis-groups-nyc-new-years-threat-harvest-them-with-silencers-and-snipers/

ISIS to do jobs Americans won't do?

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