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Thursday, January 10, 2019

His own private Alamo

President Trump is absolutely right to make a stand on the Wall. He's correct to believe that he will not be re-elected in 2020 if he does not deliver on his second-most important campaign promise, to Build the Wall.
President Donald Trump has boxed himself into a situation with no endgame in his government shutdown standoff over a border wall, a new report claims.

Citing an unnamed former White House official, Vanity Fair reported on Tuesday that Trump believes he will not be reelected in 2020 if the wall is not built, and has made the issue his 'personal Alamo'.

Trump reportedly told aides that he is prepared to make his 'last stand' on the wall issue, staking his entire presidency on constructing the border barrier that he called for forcefully in a Tuesday night address to the nation from the Oval Office.

'The president put himself in a box,' the former official in touch with the White House told the magazine. 'The problem is there's no endgame. Right now the White House is at a seven on the panic scale. If this thing goes on past the State of the Union they're going to be at an 11.'
Build the Wall. Drain the Swamp. Nothing else matters. Not the stock market, not North Korea, and not tax cuts. And certainly not ending the government "shutdown".

Build the Wall and win. Fail to build it and lose. This is not rocket science.

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Blogger Levendis January 10, 2019 7:20 AM  

I'm glad he's stood firm. All he needs to do now is some good old fashioned rhetorical judo, and flip the "muh federal workers" script. If they won't fund the wall, hold them to account for the American people harmed by mass immigration, both culturally and economically, rather than harp on "muh drugs."

Blogger Avalanche January 10, 2019 7:28 AM  

All he has to do it point out that the fed workers ALL GET THEIR PAYCHECKS, just late. There's no 'suffering' unless the fed workers have mishandled their finances (personally, in their own lives, on their own mgmt: too bad for them!) -- hell they get paid better than nearly everyone ELSE in the country! And have better benefits! Writes the "barely can get any care at the VA" vet. I view (I pretend) the VA (for my case) as 'catastrophic care' insurance -- and PRAY I never need to try to use it!

Blogger Solon January 10, 2019 7:29 AM  

It's about time he realized that The Wall is do-or-die.

If the Romanov family is any indication from history, it is, quite literally, do-or-die. If he fails to Drain the Swamp, the Swamp will stop at nothing to destroy him, destroy his family, destroy his fortunes, and bury his entire legacy in the dark morass of history.

If you believe in Q however, the first two years of his presidency have been setting up the battlefield to his favor, and he's soon going to go in full offense mode.

I believe. Hail the God Emperor. Hail Trump. Hail Victory. Let's, finally, Make America Great Again.

Keep your powder dry, boys, and into the breach, ride the three hundred (million).

Blogger McChuck January 10, 2019 7:29 AM  

"The problem is there's no endgame." (((They))) said.

Of course there is an end game. The wall gets built. The American people win, and our enemies, the globalists, lose.

Blogger Nathan Bruno January 10, 2019 7:31 AM  

The Congress failed to achieve a budget. This happens. Government shutdowns were theater. Nobody believes them now when they squeal, "Think of the children!" USA Today had a profile of a food cart vendor who normally parks outside the IRS building. "Think of the little people!" Next time, his cart should have wheels.

It's obvious that the upper bound on this shutdown is that the funding bills will be passed just after the military builds the wall. They can probably get that up before July if he uses the State of the Union Address to declare an emergency.

The president has authority; he should use it. If a court tells him to stop, he should declare himself superior to any Article I court and refuse any order other than that from the Article III court, and, for that one, he should consider long and hard that Andrew Jackson is watching him. He is not subordinate to the petty bureaucrats invested by the Congress.

Blogger McChuck January 10, 2019 7:31 AM  

Trump was smart enough to wait on pushing this issue until he could blame the Democrats. He's done the Republican party a huge favor. And they'll never notice, because they still hate him.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 10, 2019 7:36 AM  

Years ago I would have taken a report like this a bit too seriously, now not at all. Not much of a shutdown if you ask me, today is the Natural Gas storage report and it will be out there on time as usual. Democrats not getting a check on time, maybe if they were nicer people I would care.

Blogger pyrrhus January 10, 2019 7:36 AM  

Seriously, try to find one ordinary person who cares about the government "shutdown." There aren't any...I haven't heard even our neighborhood liberals mention the subject.

Blogger Rick January 10, 2019 7:39 AM  

Trump is milking this for EVERYTHING it’s worth. If you think for one second he’s just realizing the importance of this right now, you’re not that smart. He’s not concerned with re-election (because he knows he’ll build the wall). This show is all part of the plan. He is completely and perfectly exposing the enemy of the people as the true anti-Americans they truly are. There is no reason to be against this wall.
The harder they fight against him the better it works for him.

Blogger pyrrhus January 10, 2019 7:39 AM  

There is some photo evidence that parts of the Wall are already under construction, suggesting that Trump isn't waiting for official sanction, but wants it...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 10, 2019 7:47 AM  

And no photo ops or statements from the Chamberpot of Commerce rent boy Paul Ryan, just Botox Nancy and Goldman Sach's rent boy Shumer, two old feeble rich entitled and out of touch coastal "elites" lecturing the flyover country about morality, not even the conservative whores who are well paid to legitimize such rulers can do much for their images.

Blogger Cataline Sergius January 10, 2019 7:49 AM  

the former official in touch with the White House told the magazine.

Interesting turn of phrase.

Since he's a "former official," why not just use the guy's name? He can't lose his job at this point because he's already out, right?

But they need to make this sound like leak, in order for it to seem authentic. You can take an anonymous leak more seriously than you could say, Andrew McCabe or Rex Tillerson.

I suspect there is no panic in the White House at all. Why would there be? What does he have to fear, bad press?

Political pressure is entirely on the Democrat's side of things. It's their constituents that are being hurt.

And very soon those constituents are going to start threatening to withhold campaign contributions even when the government opens up again.

Trust me, that is the real pressure point here. Campaign funding is the all and the everything with today's Congress.

A congressman's ability to fundraise determines everything now. What committee seats you can get on. Where you really stand on the pecking order. What favors you can distribute.

Fund raising is EVERYTHING. And federal workers are usually reliable cattle. Unless, they can't pay...or won't pay.

Bottomline this is Trump's fight to lose and he knows it.

Blogger basementhomebrewer January 10, 2019 8:00 AM  

Trump was smart enough to wait on pushing this issue until he could blame the Democrats. He's done the Republican party a huge favor. And they'll never notice, because they still hate him.

The official cuck line right now is "why didn't he d this when he had both houses of congress?" They really are playing for the other team because they know damn well why he didn't d it then. He is also doing wonders for them just by winning the shutdown and showing that democrats suffer more under one. The Republicucks haven't won a shutdown since the 90's and have folded ever since then just because they lost the last time. If Trump wins and resets the narrative that democrats are hurt more by the shutdown he will be handing the GOP a huge advantage going forward that they will quickly discard once Trump is out of the picture.

Blogger Random #57 January 10, 2019 8:03 AM  

@7 Mr.MantraMan:

Years ago I would have taken a report like this a bit too seriously, now not at all. Not much of a shutdown if you ask me, today is the Natural Gas storage report and it will be out there on time as usual.

This shutdown is unusual in that the normal budget process was actually partly implemented instead of leaving everything to a continuing resolution, so according to this article, "the Pentagon, Health and Human Services, Education and energy and water programs, have been funded through the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30, 2019.", while the unfunded cabinet level departments are "Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, State, Interior, Agriculture, Treasury, Commerce and Justice, along with Homeland Security", plus some smaller units of government. Agriculture does "food stamps", now called SNAP, and WIC, I assume the natural gas report you're referring to is by Energy.

Blogger Rick January 10, 2019 8:05 AM  

What should be concerning the dem base (especially govt workers) is if Trump declares an emergency, builds the wall, and keeps the govt shut down.
Where’s their leverage at that point? Remove him from office? Glaciers move faster.

Blogger CoolHand January 10, 2019 8:10 AM  

I say once again, the cucks are not incompetent, they're just fighting for the other side.

In some ways, the cuckservatives are more masterful liars than the Dems. They come right out and say they're commies, but the cucks lie right to your face just as easy as breathing.

I sure hope we've got enough lamp posts for all that require the application.

As to the Alamo thing, IMO the GE has 'em by the balls now. I didn't have many doubts before, but I've got essentially none now.

If the Fake News is down to reporting that "secret sources say panic in the WH", then you know they're running out of ideas, and of course, these people always project.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 10, 2019 8:11 AM  

Thanks Random, ag will be the leverage for the Ds with all the subsidies that go out to farmers, nominal Republicans but basically contract employee pass thrus to Big Ag companies' bottom lines.

Blogger dc.sunsets January 10, 2019 8:24 AM  

Anyone who thinks the POTUS (or the Fed, or any conspiracy) can materially manipulate a $23 trillion stock or $250 trillion debt market clearly lacks the abstract cognitive pathways to hold any relevant opinion.

Therefore, anyone who bases their actions on "what effect will it have on stocks" is basically a fool...and I don't think Trump is a fool. (Whether, as a billionaire, he's entirely sane is an unrelated question.)

If Trump grasps this (all but invisible) reality, the most he can hope for is that when these markets inevitably crater, if he's POTUS he is able to serve up a different scapegoat (the POTUS is the default scapegoat.)

If this Q-stuff is real (and not simply ANOTHER layer of Matrix-control), and if the Satanic evils of child sex-trafficking and buggery hinted at are real, then let's get the swamp drained so we can see who needs to be publicly and LITERALLY drawn and quartered.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 10, 2019 8:24 AM  

He gets it! Not really a surprise, but good to see it confirmed.

basementhomebrewer wrote:The official cuck line right now is "why didn't he d this when he had both houses of congress?"

I wanted to see him hold the GOP under water until they drowned. If he had done this a year ago, the GOP would have had to choose between America and Soros, and most of them would have chosen Soros. I wanted Trump to destroy the GOP. Now he has given the GOP Leftists cover. At least we get a wall.

basementhomebrewer wrote:If Trump wins and resets the narrative that democrats are hurt more by the shutdown he will be handing the GOP a huge advantage going forward that they will quickly discard once Trump is out of the picture.

See? This is an example of why the GOP needs to be destroyed.

Blogger The Chortling January 10, 2019 8:34 AM  

hopefully the reported phrase 'private Alamo' will tell him who the mole is.

Blogger Uncle John's Band January 10, 2019 8:41 AM  

The longer the shutdown, the more pointed the rhetorical question 'so what is it they do?'

Blogger Peter Gent January 10, 2019 8:42 AM  

Avalanche wrote:...I view (I pretend) the VA (for my case) as 'catastrophic care' insurance -- and PRAY I never need to try to use it!
If you live anywhere near a military base, go there for your VA health needs. I have a friend who goes to Fort Meade (never to the VA hospitals in Baltimore) and gets excellent treatment.

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 10, 2019 8:47 AM  

"'The president put himself in a box,' the former official in touch with the White House told the magazine."

They're trying to reframe it as an unfortunate political misstep, as if he didn't really mean to end up building the Wall, so don't give him credit for it. They're desperate to keep people from seeing that he's standing on principle, keeping his #1 promise, and defending America against the globalists.

The official cuck line right now is "why didn't he do this when he had both houses of congress?"

They'll always find a reason to bitch.

Blogger DJT January 10, 2019 8:54 AM  

There's a lot of hand-wringing in the MSN over the TSA. Imagine how many agents will be out of work when Americans realize the security theater was all fake!

Blogger Mocheirge January 10, 2019 8:59 AM  

I suspect there is no panic in the White House at all. Why would there be? What does he have to fear, bad press?

Latrina the EBT ninja could infiltrate the WH and unleash her minininja brood, which would proceed to wreck the decor.

Blogger Shimshon January 10, 2019 9:00 AM  

@24 MSN: "Let them ride private jets."

Blogger DMV Gringo January 10, 2019 9:01 AM  

Intelligence, and waiting for the most advantageous moment to effectively blame democrats, had nothing to do with Drumpf
"waiting" before beginning a genuine "push" to secure funding for Wall construction.

Blogger DMV Gringo January 10, 2019 9:03 AM  

You are truly the most retarded Free Running Harambe in existence.

Blogger DMV Gringo January 10, 2019 9:04 AM  

Oh, I also forgot, there is no 'Plan', you stupid gimp.

Blogger DMV Gringo January 10, 2019 9:06 AM  

You fucking retards never quit.
Stupidity and retardation is always
the order of the day with your lot.

Blogger Ken Prescott January 10, 2019 9:06 AM  

I've taken to referring to the Chamber of Commerce as the "human trafficking wing of the GOP."

Blogger dc.sunsets January 10, 2019 9:07 AM  

The 3 SD gap rears its head.

Blogger Guitar Man January 10, 2019 9:09 AM  

Wow, a "DRUMPF" insult. Much insulting, very tough.

Blogger MJ Meyers January 10, 2019 9:10 AM  

No quarter, no cuckery. BUILD THE WALL!

Blogger Gettimothy January 10, 2019 9:14 AM  

From the r/K perspective, Anonymous Conservative demonstrates that Trump is winning and destroying the leftoid amygdala. Cher and others calling on Pelosi and Shumer to just give Trump his wall.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams January 10, 2019 9:16 AM  

Big, beautiful wall forthcoming as soon as the urban goodwhites realize the diversity will eat them first. They'll be demanding Congress end the shutdown when Deviante and Shaniqua are burning down their neighborhood grocery store because EBT is down.

Blogger Random #57 January 10, 2019 9:17 AM  

@33 Guitar Man:

Wow, a "DRUMPF" insult. Much insulting, very tough.

The Left is started to get really triggered on this, here's the Anonymous Conservative on amygdala based and other observations, including noting that Cher and Trevor Noah are now urging the Democrats to cave. The threat to SNAP and WIC works both ways, although the USDA is saying they have enough money for them through February. Noah is worried Trump will bypass the Congress, “If I’m the Democrats, I’d give Trump the wall before he finds out what he can really do.”

Blogger Bufface January 10, 2019 9:17 AM  

The problem as I see it is that the wall won't be built within constitutional means, and Trump has not demonstrated he is willing to force it through with raw executive power.

Even if by some miracle, he is able to negotiate funding, there are going to be environmental and property owner lawsuits that will drag the start of construction out decades.

I don't think Trump has it in him to start arresting judges.

Therefore the wall will not be built and Trump will not win reelection.

Blogger Captain Barnacles January 10, 2019 9:20 AM  

This is why faithless types such as Ann Coulter need to calm down.
Trump was always going into “do or die” with the wall. He simply maneuvered with substantial, but impossible proposed compromises to weaken the Dembiciles’ legitimacy. It does have an effect, even among hardcore liberals. He’s lured them into an irrational, hostile, and openly anti-American position. Now he can build the wall with confidence.

Blogger ZotZotDig January 10, 2019 9:20 AM  

Well, it appears that the President is slowly backing himself into the "National Emergency" corner. That's how it ends. Govt. is funded. Trump declares an emergency to allow him to redirect the defense budget to the wall building.

Or course, he doesn't get his wall that way. Courts won't allow it. Have his advisors told him this really won't work? Word is that the Exec branch just hired 17 new attorneys to fight the Dem House. They will be needed if it's the "National Emergency" route the President Takes

Blogger JC January 10, 2019 9:23 AM  

I know the 4D Chess thing is a bit of a joke but it does make more sense to push the BBW (W is for Wall) when the Dems are the gatekeepers to it happening. The cucks would have definitely stabbed him in the back and probably will now too but they can't do it without looking worse. As long as he sticks to his guns, Trump can't lose on this no matter what the outcome.

The Dems cave on the Wall and he wins. If his whole Presidency goes down on him trying to do the main thing he promised he would do if elected - he wins. The latter would actually be preferable because it would lay naked to all that the American people are not really in charge. We know this but were the latter to happen, everybody would.

Blogger JAG January 10, 2019 9:26 AM  

Guitar Man wrote:Wow, a "DRUMPF" insult. Much insulting, very tough.

He destroyed us by just posting one word. That's even better than Ben Shapiro. I'm definitely converting to globalist now.

Blogger Gettimothy January 10, 2019 9:26 AM  

@38 We will build the wall with the corpses of our defeatist enemies. We will plant their heads on cucks gate.

Blogger JAG January 10, 2019 9:28 AM  

Gettimothy wrote:From the r/K perspective, Anonymous Conservative demonstrates that Trump is winning and destroying the leftoid amygdala. Cher and others calling on Pelosi and Shumer to just give Trump his wall.



Trevor Noah also advised to give him the wall before he figures out what he really can do as POTUS, meaning he knows that if this situation gets sideways enough the GE can declare martial law, and start rounding up traitors.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 10, 2019 9:31 AM  

Denninger took note of some tweet by a California twink congressmale named Levin promising us a fight in the streets over an emergency declaration, uh yeah okay, sure thing girlfriend.

When the womanish moralizing of the Left gets to violence I'm sure even our cuckish intellectuals just have to roll their eyes.

Blogger Random #57 January 10, 2019 9:38 AM  

@41 JC:

I know the 4D Chess thing is a bit of a joke but it does make more sense to push the BBW (W is for Wall) when the Dems are the gatekeepers to it happening. The cucks would have definitely stabbed him in the back and probably will now too but they can't do it without looking worse. As long as he sticks to his guns, Trump can't lose on this no matter what the outcome.

The Dems cave on the Wall and he wins.


The Dems aren't the real gatekeepers in the Senate, they can only visibly surrender and put political pressure on the swamp creatures like McConnell to bring it to a vote. Not going to bet which way that goes, for the Wall or "the human trafficking wing of the GOP" as @31 Ken Prescott put it. Pelosi's leadership team and the current crop of Democratic House members? Untested as of yet, but some Republicans will probably vote for it.

But as you say, one way or another:

If his whole Presidency goes down on him trying to do the main thing he promised he would do if elected - he wins.

Blogger McChuck January 10, 2019 9:41 AM  

The 9th circus court may make their idiotic decisions. Let's see them enforce their will upon the people. "Bailiff! Arrest the President and all 63 million deplorable bitter clingers who voted for him!"

Blogger dc.sunsets January 10, 2019 9:44 AM  

@45 Agreed. The USA is nowhere near the point where widespread violence spontaneous occurs. All the Antifa crap is Public Theater, akin to press coverage of a "flood" where all the cameras are lined up to photograph the one parking lot that's under water.

Put the DJIA at 5,000 and 3-month T-bill rates at even 5% and that calculus changes. Those won't cause unrest, they'll simply signal that social mood (mass psychology) has finally discarded pathological trust, openness and optimism for their opposites, and rage-dictated actions will follow.

Blogger John Russo January 10, 2019 9:44 AM  

If they really believed that the wall would not deter or stop in the slightest any illegal immigration, the flow of drugs, and whatnot, they would let the president have the wall built and then you show statistics proving their point.
But they do know that the wall will work, and just deter them of their future voting base.
I mean what other reason would there be for them defying the United States right to defend its borders?
And with 22 million + illegal aliens in this country, plus the crime and violence that goes along with it, plus the drugs and drug related deaths, how do they even have the nerve to suggest something won't work when they allowed this country to get to this point in the first place?

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey January 10, 2019 9:44 AM  

The atmosphere of govt workers around DC has been surprisingly subdued through the shutdown, but that has begun to change with the first missed payday looming. Local radio has been featuring some sob stories, national media has been combing the government shutdown hashtags on social media hunting for sob stories. I expect those stories to be rolled out with more frequency and urgency starting Friday.

It will things like people facing missed mortgage payments, people unable to buy medications, etc. They absolutely will not tell you, however, that the banks around here fully understand that these people are facing a cash flow problem not an income problem. Banks are working with the people who call them up, arranging delayed payments and even accelerated home equity loans, etc. Furthermore, government shutdowns have become a standard feature of modern life as a government worker, especially in the days since 2008 when apparently the idea of annual budgets met the fate of the Dodo bird. Fiscal brinksmanship has been the order of the day and an obvious, regular risk for at least ten full years now. Don't you think you would be prepared to go without at least an on-time paycheck for at least a pay period or two if you were a responsible government worker? MPAI applies.

Trump's rhetoric that he's prepared to hold out for years is welcome music to the ears. Fight the beast!

Blogger Gettimothy January 10, 2019 9:46 AM  

@44 thx.

"Trevor Noah also advised to give him the wall before he figures out ..."

I am still trying to figure out Trump on this one. While I strongly suspect that Trump pushes the envelope on what is knowable from his staff* , I think Scott, moist robot, Adams got it right with "process not goals".

It's like a great football game, at a certain point you are beyond thought and the beauty of the thing dominates it all.

That, I believe is Trump's profession. He elevates the mundane into the sublime.

Emotionally, look where we are. It's not even freaking half time and the fate of Christendom and the West hangs in the balance.

Champions run to that fight. Champions create that fight.

Is Trump a champion?

Yes.

*or rather is so entrenched in excellence that like minded killers flock to him just for the fun of it

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke January 10, 2019 9:46 AM  

Yeah, BUT! the Texans lost at the Alamo.... Still, the USA has to build that wall. Though that alone is not enough.

Born on a mountain top in Tennessee...

Theism matters more, though I wonder if I'm going insane.

Blogger Timmy3 January 10, 2019 10:09 AM  

Framing the narrative as about Trump’s re-election will make it easier for the Democrats to resist the wall. Then again, it makes it harder for Trump to back down, but he did threaten the shutdown when Paul Ryan was in charge of the House. He backed down then and Schumer got his tunnel.

Blogger Crush Limbraw January 10, 2019 10:11 AM  

At some point the theme must get out - "America, you are being replaced - build the wall - NOW!"

Blogger Peter Gent January 10, 2019 10:34 AM  

1st Earl Hardwicke wrote:Yeah, BUT! the Texans lost at the Alamo.... Still, the USA has to build that wall. Though that alone is not enough.
It can be accurately said that while the Alamo was lost, the Alamo was the reason the war was won. So, Trump is prepared to lose this Alamo (Congress refuses to appropriate the money to build the war) and Trump wins the war by building it anyway, using the military and a declaration of emergency. Once built, or even started, it changes everything and the whole dynamic shifts and deportations start to mean something...it will be infinitely harder for you get back in.

Sometimes you have to lose a battle to win a war.

Blogger Peter Gent January 10, 2019 10:37 AM  

should be: "build the wall)" I wish there was a short edit period like at UNZ where we could correct those little annoyances.

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 10, 2019 10:38 AM  

Well, it appears that the President is slowly backing himself into the "National Emergency" corner. [....] Or course, he doesn't get his wall that way. Courts won't allow it.

That's where the blackpillers will move the goalposts when/if he declares a national emergency. Good to know, I guess. It won't matter that many of them were asking why he doesn't just do that a day before.

Blogger Peter Gent January 10, 2019 10:38 AM  

Thought, if you are forced to move away from blogspot in the future, maybe you could implement a short edit period on posts (1-2 minutes) so people could fix their brain farts.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 10, 2019 10:44 AM  

DJT wrote:There's a lot of hand-wringing in the MSN over the TSA. Imagine how many agents will be out of work when Americans realize the security theater was all fake!

This seems like a great set-up for the satanist to conduct a false flag airplane catastrophe, nail it down to " a lack of security due to low TSA staff" and then Trump will be painted as the scapegoat for mass casualties.

Blogger Random #57 January 10, 2019 10:49 AM  

@53 Timmy3:

Framing the narrative as about Trump’s re-election will make it easier for the Democrats to resist the wall. Then again, it makes it harder for Trump to back down, but he did threaten the shutdown when Paul Ryan was in charge of the House. He backed down then and Schumer got his tunnel.

Schumer got "up to $541 million" for this $20 billion and sure to continue ballooning project that's a lot more than one tunnel, and there's authority for Amtrak to spend more. Some time ago Trump offered more money for it in exchange for wall funding, but Schumer turned him down.

Blogger CM January 10, 2019 10:52 AM  

So is a national emergency the likely outcome of this if neither capitulated? Because if he keeps the government shut down for 2 years,I'd still vote for him...

Blogger LES January 10, 2019 10:54 AM  

Trump has to know he is the best champion we've had. If he caves in people will give up hope that elections matter. JFK was right when he said "those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

Blogger Crew January 10, 2019 11:14 AM  

Courts won't allow it.

You mean the 9th Circuit won't allow it.

However, with the Zombie SC Justice soon to be a thing of the past, I think he would win in the SC!

Blogger Dirk Manly January 10, 2019 11:45 AM  

Schumer and Pelosi have made a HUGE tactical error by foolishly backing Trump into a corner. A man is most dangerous when he has no escape.


I forget the names and location, but the following story comes from a translation of an annotated version of Art of War by Tsun Tsu.

In an ancient battle, a Chinese general had the mission of defeating an army with superior numbers, and sitting on good defensive ground.
He told his senior officers to make plans for where to camp tomorrow, after the battle. They asked, "Where?" and he said "wherever you decide -- we will have complete freedom after we win tomorrow."
"How will we win?"
"Leave that to me."

The next morning, the general lead his entire fighting force between the enemy and a river. The enemy soldiers came out of their fortress, and attacked. His men, having no where to run to, fought for their lives, and soundly defeated the enemy army. His officers were amazed.

Blogger Zapp Brannigan January 10, 2019 12:04 PM  

I am cautiously hopeful that Trump will actually get something out of this protracted shutdown after reading the comments above. But, here's the counterpoint that I still haven't seen anyone really address:

The Democrats CANNOT allow Trump to build a wall. It will kill their party.

If the Democrats cave on this, the outrage eruption from their Progressive base will pierce the Earth's crust. The shit-lined streets of San Francisco will be awash with the tears of the blue-hairs. It will be the ultimate betrayal, and there will be serious talk of splintering the party. The open mockery, even on the Left, of the animatronic Pelosi and Schumer in the response to Trump's address is emblematic of the deep divide between the Old Guard Democrat party and the young, restive Progressive base waiting impatiently in the wings.

But that's just in the short term. Long term, a completed wall, coupled with increased deportations from an ICE, will bleed the Democrat party dry. With an actual barrier blocking the easily accessible areas of the border, deportation would go from "expensive inconvenience" to "permanent expulsion". No more of this sneaking back across with the next caravan bullshit; you get deported, you're out. Game over. Even if an illegal were to surrender to the border patrol, Trump has already instituted the policy of holding border crossers on site rather than catch-and-release. No more melting into the crowd and tossing your court summons in the nearest trash bin (or more likely dropping it on the sidewalk for someone else to clean up). The Democrats have alienated White men and their female voters don't reproduce, so a wall means no more new Democrat voters. In fact, a wall means a steady LOSS of Democrat voters as they are deported and unable to get back into the country.

So, I say again: Nancy and Chuck CANNOT give in to Trump.

The only way I see this happening is with an emergency order.

Blogger A. J. Pendelton January 10, 2019 12:07 PM  

So solly, but the endgame is very clear.

Trump is visiting the border in Texas today and will declare a "State of Emergency" there.

Once declared he can and will use military assets and money diverted from other emergency funds to totally complete the border barrier. There is existing law that allows him to do this BTW. He will used the Army Corp of Engineers and the Navy Seabee Battalions (stationed in California) to start work and it will progress very rapidly using the steel barrier concept.

Suck it up.

Blogger JAG January 10, 2019 12:13 PM  

A Trump win on the Wall issue will also reveal just how feckless and cowardly the Republican Party has been when fighting the Dems for the last 60 or so years.

The Dems are certainly the Evil Party as the old saying goes, but I disagree with it when it comes to the Republican Party being the Stupid Party. It's the Sniveling Coward Party.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke January 10, 2019 12:13 PM  

There is already a wall, do not know if it goes all the way, has holes in it etc. Question of manning it, and using the technology available to various agencies to do what they have to do. Use non-lethal, perhaps even potentially lethal force.

My parents were on holiday in Texas a while a go, they got pulled over by border security, kind of, "open the trunk(boot) slowly sir." with their M16's drawn. Were visiting various national parks, eating in steak restaurants etc. Maybe even a nice greasy Wendy's burger.

Blogger JAG January 10, 2019 12:19 PM  

Zapp Brannigan wrote:I am cautiously hopeful that Trump will actually get something out of this protracted shutdown after reading the comments above. But, here's the counterpoint that I still haven't seen anyone really address:

The Democrats CANNOT allow Trump to build a wall. It will kill their party.

If the Democrats cave on this, the outrage eruption from their Progressive base will pierce the Earth's crust. The shit-lined streets of San Francisco will be awash with the tears of the blue-hairs. It will be the ultimate betrayal, and there will be serious talk of splintering the party. The open mockery, even on the Left, of the animatronic Pelosi and Schumer in the response to Trump's address is emblematic of the deep divide between the Old Guard Democrat party and the young, restive Progressive base waiting impatiently in the wings.

But that's just in the short term. Long term, a completed wall, coupled with increased deportations from an ICE, will bleed the Democrat party dry. With an actual barrier blocking the easily accessible areas of the border, deportation would go from "expensive inconvenience" to "permanent expulsion". No more of this sneaking back across with the next caravan bullshit; you get deported, you're out. Game over. Even if an illegal were to surrender to the border patrol, Trump has already instituted the policy of holding border crossers on site rather than catch-and-release. No more melting into the crowd and tossing your court summons in the nearest trash bin (or more likely dropping it on the sidewalk for someone else to clean up). The Democrats have alienated White men and their female voters don't reproduce, so a wall means no more new Democrat voters. In fact, a wall means a steady LOSS of Democrat voters as they are deported and unable to get back into the country.

So, I say again: Nancy and Chuck CANNOT give in to Trump.

The only way I see this happening is with an emergency order.


It is the Dems own fault should it come to that. had they not been evil scumbags bent on accumulating personal power at the expense of the people and the country this would not be a potential Waterloo for them.

I look forward to California losing 15 to 20 Electoral College votes, and a number of House Reps when the 20 million or so illegals are deported post wall.

Blogger Random #57 January 10, 2019 12:23 PM  

@65 Zapp Brannigan

The Wall is useless without enforcement, the Democrats can tell themselves they'll just end that when they next capture the Oval Office. I've also heard there's a lot of kabuki theater going on, where the smarter coyotes send their charges across during shift changes.

And the Democratic Party will most certainly not "dry up" with legal immigration running around 1 million people per year since 2000, and Trump wanting to expand it, here's just his latest remarks on that, see here for the full treatment, some discussion of that on VP here.

Blogger ZotZotDig January 10, 2019 12:28 PM  

"Trump is visiting the border in Texas today and will declare a "State of Emergency" there.

Once declared he can and will use military assets and money diverted from other emergency funds to totally complete the border barrier. There is existing law that allows him to do this BTW. He will used the Army Corp of Engineers and the Navy Seabee Battalions (stationed in California) to start work and it will progress very rapidly using the steel barrier concept.

Suck it up."

Then there is the alternative scenario.

Like you say, Trump goes the border. He declares emergency and takes funding primarily from the Defense Dept. This is followed by a lawsuit from congressional dems, filed either in the DC or a district court in the 5th Circuit. Judge puts a stop to funding and building while court assesses case (possibility case goes straight to SCOTUS. SCOTUS denies emergency in the same way they denied Truman his emergency during Korean war.

This allows Dems to save face (they stopped Trump). It allows Trump to save face (he took action on his campaign promise and he blames the liberal court).

Blogger DJT January 10, 2019 12:33 PM  

He has to be willing to defy the courts. Or even arrest the judges as aiding an insurrection.

Trump has to be willing to die on this hill. If he leads us, we be with him to the last.

Blogger Rick January 10, 2019 12:43 PM  

We can’t both be right.

Blogger Gen. Kong January 10, 2019 12:52 PM  

If Breitbart is to be believed (big if), the latest D-jersey bad-faith dealing comes even after apalling concessions (half the funding for wall, admission of millions of fake refugees from Guatemale, Central America) were given in December, which effectively render the wall into chain-link fence with holes. If this is true (again big if), Trump is utterly clueless about who he is dealing with. Hopefully he's starting to figure it out (yesterday's walk-out of negotiations with Schumer and Pelosi). If he thinks the deep-state will 'negotiate', he's deluded and in serious danger of ending up like the Romanovs. He should not be making any deals whatsoever. Drain the swamp, build the wall, collect enemy skulls in a pile.

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 10, 2019 1:02 PM  

At times I'm afraid that Trump may not be powerful enough. He's a great leader and a powerful man. But the rot and damage may be too deep. His efforts too late.
He may not be the fix, it's up to us to ensure that which he sets in motion is worth something.

Blogger Zapp Brannigan January 10, 2019 1:03 PM  

@70

I get your point, but a wall is not useless even if enforcement wanes under a future Democrat president.

A wall is a wall. It's a physical barrier. It represents a huge constraint to the free passage of peoples across the border. As planned, it will force chokepoints where it will be easy for border patrol to concentrate its manpower and capture illegals. Short of disbanding ICE altogether and putting up a giant Welcome sign, a wall would be a significant game-changer in the stubborn upward curve of illegal entries into the U.S.

You are right that I probably overstated the effect on the Democrat party considering how many illegals are already here. ICE reported 256K illegals were deported in FY2018, up from 226K in FY2017. Even if they doubled these numbers for the next ten years, it would hardly make a dent in the illegal population.

However, consider the fact that the Democrats are facing an existential crisis:

If they give in to Trump, the blue-hair contingent will shriek and the party will likely splinter. It will be the Bernie's vs. the Pelosi's. If this were to happen it would cause chaos in the 2020 primaries as the two parties claw for control.

If they don't and Trump declares a national emergency to build the wall with the military budget, the Democrats are shown to be an ineffective bulwark against Trump and the young Progressive wing perhaps splits off when they catch the whiff of death.

Either way, the Democrats would be weakened in the near term.

Blogger Random #57 January 10, 2019 1:08 PM  

@71 ZotZotDig:

It allows Trump to save face (he took action on his campaign promise and he blames the liberal court).

It might save face, but it won't get him reelected, and as Gen. Kong and others including myself point out, the stakes are probably a lot higher. Also, the final liberal court is the Supreme Court, although failing there now will probably hurt the GOPe and the court more than it will hurt Trump. If he's able to replace Ginsberg, and if a new majority supports him before the next election, he'll have a better story to tell about what he'll do if reelected. But a 5-4 loss including Roberts and Kavanaugh is a more likely bet.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 10, 2019 1:11 PM  

Hey, everybody, just remember this:

Who's locked in with whom?

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 10, 2019 2:31 PM  

Trump should declare a national emergency to build the wall AND keep the government shut down until the Dems fund it.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 10, 2019 2:44 PM  

Patience. We're getting there.

Baby steps.

Sudden moves cause leftist freak-outs and riots.
Baby steps cause leftist despair, as each small step magnifies the sense that he's a human steam-roller and utterly unstoppable.

Blogger Avalanche January 10, 2019 2:54 PM  

@22 "Av: If you live anywhere near a military base, go there for your VA health needs. I have a friend who goes to Fort Meade (never to the VA hospitals in Baltimore) and gets excellent treatment."

Thanks, hour north of ATL -- closest small VA clinic is 3/4 hours away; and they do only routine care. If I need emergency care -- it's the big VA Hospital about 1-3/4 hours away.

{shrug} As I've been for some 20 years: "I'm insured by Master Card."

Blogger ZotZotDig January 10, 2019 2:58 PM  

"He has to be willing to defy the courts. Or even arrest the judges as aiding an insurrection. Trump has to be willing to die on this hill. If he leads us, we be with him to the last."

Not gonna happen. He hasn't done so yet and there isn't a single person in his adminstration, including Barr, who will recommend it or carry it out.

"It might save face, but it won't get him reelected, and as Gen. Kong and others including myself point out, the stakes are probably a lot higher."

It's a long time before Nov 2020. The Dems could hang themselves with their nominee, there could be other wins for Trump. Trump will have the power of incumbency. Plus, I don't think you give Trump supporters enough credit for sticking with him as he does all he can to get the wall.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 10, 2019 3:07 PM  

Trump has not only the right but the duty to ignore federal judges who attempt to usurp executive powers. And I'm sure he'll point out that Obama ignored federal judges when it suited him.

Blogger Crew January 10, 2019 3:07 PM  

Bill Mitchel says:

What is or is not a national emergency is SOLELY at the President's discretion. SCOTUS has already ruled on this.

Blogger Avalanche January 10, 2019 3:24 PM  

@59 "nail it down to " a lack of security due to low TSA staff" and then Trump will be painted as the scapegoat for mass casualties."

oooh and somehow, silly ol' Trump and his team jes' never ever THOUGHT of such a thing! Come on, OF COURSE Trump and his folks know about all the false flags that miraculously appear when (((they))) need to move something off the front page/evening news... H.W.'s "national state of mourning" (really? who the hell CARED?!) to push the Comey testimony out of everyone's minds?! Huh. School shootings? 9/11 to help hide 3.2 TRILLION dollars gone missing?

Timing is everything. And President Trump has excellent timing!

Blogger Avalanche January 10, 2019 3:32 PM  

@70 "legal immigration running around 1 million people per year since 2000, and Trump wanting to expand it,"

River Song: "Rule Number One? The Doctor lies. Has to. So do I. All the time."

WHY do you think Trump is the fool the media paint him as? Why do you think (have you even READ Art of the Deal?!) he is telling the TRUTH as he maneuvers to get his deals done. DEALS multiple deals! Not just Build the Wall but MAGA!! Jobs for AMERICANS. Bring back industry!

The God Emperor is negotiating ONE deal currently: our big beautiful wall! -- but that negotiation has nothing whatsoever to do with the NEXT negotiation and the one after than and the next and the next and....

Blogger milton f January 10, 2019 3:32 PM  

Trump should announce announce that the non-essential grubmint workers are non-essential, and are FIRED. With the savings a wall is easily affordable. Heh.

Blogger xevious2030 January 10, 2019 3:33 PM  

@18

$23 trillion, $250 trillion, those are really big numbers. But you don’t need to be any kind of rocket scientist to comprehend them (for Owen B). I can count them on one hand. One finger, for consumer markets, and the second finger for the producer markets. Just counted to $273 trillion. When your consumer market is kind of the biggest one, like, I don’t know if I have a cognitive pathway or not, but, you know, if you, I don’t know, disrupt the pathway or something, oh my god! Whatever!

Blogger Avalanche January 10, 2019 3:35 PM  

OT: Hey look! Global warming!
https://www.apnews.com/aaab1592e5c84e80a9bd57545d8ce1a3

"At least 13 people have been killed in weather-related accidents in Europe over the last week, most of them from avalanches.
...
Temperatures in Romania plunged to a low of minus 24 Celsius (minus 11.2 Fahrenheit).
...
In Austria, hundreds of residents were stuck in their homes due to blocked roads and some regions experienced power outages after snow-laden trees took down power lines.
...
Dozens of refugees housed in tents at a migrant camp in northern Greece protested their harsh living conditions as temperatures in some areas sunk to minus 20 degrees Celsius (minus 5 degrees Fahrenheit). Snow was even reported on many of Greece’s islands.
"

(I'm great with that last one!)

Blogger Haxo Angmark January 10, 2019 3:39 PM  

Trump did nothing about the Wall

when he had a Republiscam House.

now that it's a Demoncrat House,

he's "fighting desperately to get the money"

but...just...can't...quite...do it.

it's a sham wrapped in a scam.

Blogger xevious2030 January 10, 2019 3:46 PM  

Lets say, the US had some troops in Afghanistan, and the US said, well, we don't like the terms anymore, and to get access to rare earth minerals from Afghanistan, you need to pay the US refined market value for weight on unrefined raw material weight. That maybe we should consider it, strongly consider it, we're really thinking about doing it. There may be a financial impact, even from those as words.

Blogger SirHamster January 10, 2019 3:56 PM  

"The problem is there's no endgame. Right now the White House is at a seven on the panic scale."

This immediately reminded me of whomever was quoting Sun Tzu previously: "When strong, appear weak, when weak appear strong."

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 10, 2019 4:03 PM  

Haxo, if Trump had pulled this when the GOP controlled the House, the GOP would have had to choose between delivering for America or delivering for their globalist masters.

Since Trump waited until the Dems control the House, the Dems can take the heat for voting against the wall, and the House GOP can safely vote for the wall, secure in the knowledge that their vote doesn't discombobulate the globalists, since the Dems will win - which is what the GOP and their globalist masters want.

By waiting, Trump has given the GOP cover. If he had done this two years ago, he would have exposed them as anti-American globalists. I really wanted Trump to destroy the GOP, but at least we're likely to get a wall. That's all that Trump ever promised us, so we can't complain.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 10, 2019 4:03 PM  

@89. Avalanche January 10, 2019 3:35 PM

OT: Hey look! Global warming!
https://www.apnews.com/aaab1592e5c84e80a9bd57545d8ce1a3

"At least 13 people have been killed in weather-related accidents in Europe over the last week, most of them from avalanches.

----

*What* have you done?

Blogger Dirk Manly January 10, 2019 4:08 PM  

You're living in your own private ...

Blogger SciVo January 10, 2019 4:10 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:Sudden moves cause leftist freak-outs and riots.

Baby steps cause leftist despair, as each small step magnifies the sense that he's a human steam-roller and utterly unstoppable.


I think it's an alpha thing. A gamma may have the guts/ego to take dramatic action, but that may have to wait until there's little left to lose, or it isn't worth the gamble. An alpha can simply keep applying inexorable pressure non-stop until everyone else has broken under the strain.

Blogger DJT January 10, 2019 4:12 PM  

Greg Jarrett was in for Hannity today and I listened for a few minutes.

He pointed out that Congress abdicated its power to determine a national emergency by statute, and granted it to the president's sole discretion. And in another law, the president can direct the SecDef to undertake any construction projects WITH NO RESPECT TO ANY OTHER LAW.

In other words, he can build the wall and ignore all environmental impact studies and everything else. There are no grounds on which to sue, because congress gives him has absolute authority.

Kamala Harris can sue all she wants, it won't matter.

Blogger SirHamster January 10, 2019 4:13 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:*What* have you done?

Who knew walls of text were lethal?

Blogger Dirk Manly January 10, 2019 4:19 PM  

"By waiting, Trump has given the GOP cover. If he had done this two years ago, he would have exposed them as anti-American globalists. I really wanted Trump to destroy the GOP, but at least we're likely to get a wall. That's all that Trump ever promised us, so we can't complain."

2022.

Once he's done using them for as much as he can, while they're thinking that they've tricked him, and are safe. It will be his last great act, and his parting shot.

By the way, notice that he got all the important parts of the budget passed BEFORE Pelosi took over the house. And left the especially treasonous parts (HUD, Dept. of Interior (home of the EPA), Dept. of Ag (home of WIC and such), and the most treasonous of all, the Dept. of State (which is why this part of the budget has all the foreign aid allotments)).

Absolutely masterful.

The important parts (like DoD) are funded, but the unimportant parts (the homes of the various treasonous bureaucracies, and the grifters who pass out money to other grifters) are all left twisting in the wind.

This makes the government shut down doubly delicious -- We're operating under a Libertarian's dream right now -- true minimalist federal government.

Blogger freddie_mac January 10, 2019 4:28 PM  

@97 DJT
In other words, he can build the wall and ignore all environmental impact studies and everything else. There are no grounds on which to sue, because congress gives him has absolute authority.

Well, they certainly didn't intend for that absolute authority to be used by Trump or against them. See, it says so right here in this penumbra (which only prog judges can find).

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 10, 2019 4:31 PM  

The problem is there's no endgame.

Of course there is an end game: the wall gets built. If Trump is serious, and he might well be, he can spend a year building the wall and prolonging the shutdown. The longer it goes on, the more harm he does the Left. If he's serious, the end game is more of the same. The second best outcome is that the Left folds early to limit their damage, and the wall gets funded.

The only way Trump can lose is if he looks for a way out.

Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:Trump has not only the right but the duty to ignore federal judges who attempt to usurp executive powers. And I'm sure he'll point out that Obama ignored federal judges when it suited him.

All true. I think that Trump isn't willing to actually use the full power of the imperial presidency. Actually channeling Lincoln and Jackson would be a game changer, and I don't see Trump wanting to change the game like that.

Wouldn't it be cool if I'm wrong?

Blogger DJT January 10, 2019 4:43 PM  

He says he'll do it if Chuck and Nancy don't play ball. (I hope they don't.)

Blogger Dirk Manly January 10, 2019 4:52 PM  

He asked if they're ready to fund the wall.
They said, "No"
He said, "Then there's no point in talking. Bye bye." and left. Destination, the Texas / Mexico border.

He gave a talk with both dialectic and rhetorical reasons to change their mind, and then gave them a night to reconsider their treasonous position -- and they said, "No."

They proved this morning that they are not willing to play ball.

Prepare for hysterical blue-hairs by the weekend.

Blogger Rhys January 10, 2019 5:33 PM  

It really makes you realize how bad things are. How hard is it to build a wall or leave the EU? Yet in both countries the political class claims it's impossible while doing everything it can to stop either from happening.

One has to wonder at exactly what point the democracy ended without us knowing.

Blogger Joseph Maroney January 10, 2019 6:00 PM  

This is going to show people how little their government does.

Blogger Crew January 10, 2019 6:38 PM  

I don't know if it's true, but they say the Zombie Justice will resign tomorrow ...

https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/1083494842838073344

Blogger SciVo January 10, 2019 6:55 PM  

Rhys wrote:One has to wonder at exactly what point the democracy ended without us knowing.

In the U.S., it was at least no later than Roe v. Wade in 1973. They should've been impeached, but the ruling class was fine with a kritarchy, because they can lobby their rulers at the club. They couldn't do that with a democracy, since we aren't allowed in that club, and neither of us would want to be around the other anyway.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 10, 2019 7:20 PM  

@Dirk Manly

Very interesting. This could be how Trump intends to get the Demoncraps to back down and fund our Wall. "Fund the Wall, or a bunch of Swamp critters starve!"

Blogger DJT January 10, 2019 7:46 PM  

I don't know if it's true, but they say the Zombie Justice will resign tomorrow ...

I don't dare to hope.

Blogger Matthew Taylor January 10, 2019 7:53 PM  

Most of the "Government" that is currently shut down should never be allowed to start back up again. It is all a waste of money.

Blogger SciVo January 10, 2019 7:56 PM  

DJT, I'm indifferent. At this point, either she resigns, or the stress pushes her that much closer to the grave. I can't lose, because #DeathWins in the end. Always.

Blogger :^) January 10, 2019 9:44 PM  

dc.sunsets is apperently unaware of the Exchange Stablization Fund or the Presidents Working Group

Blogger Crew January 10, 2019 9:50 PM  

I pray that we don't get fooled again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

Blogger DJT January 10, 2019 10:03 PM  

I would not be surprised if Breyer retires after this session, and maybe even Thomas (who wouldn't want to risk getting replaced by a Dem if Trump loses in 2020).

Blogger New Atlantis Lost January 10, 2019 10:19 PM  

The bummer about the Alamo is that everyone does romantically in the end

Blogger New Atlantis Lost January 10, 2019 10:22 PM  

It seems I cannot make a point without spelling something fatally wrong... it ruins the effect to say so but it was supposed to say “dies”. Damn my fat thumbs and disregard of the “preview” function

Blogger Dirk Manly January 11, 2019 4:34 AM  

This is why you see some of my posts preceded by "this comment was removed by the author."

After posting, I notice some total message-killing typo, incomplete sentence or some such error in the original edit.

Copy the bad post into the comment box.
Fix the error
Post it.
Remove the original post.


This also saves space in the blog's allotted storage for comments, compared to posting corrections which takes additional space.

Blogger Random #57 January 11, 2019 7:51 AM  

@86 Avalanche:

@70 "legal immigration running around 1 million people per year since 2000, and Trump wanting to expand it,"

River Song: "Rule Number One? The Doctor lies. Has to. So do I. All the time."


If he's lying about the H-1B example I cited, then we might as well assume he's lying about the Wall, for he's been saying the same things about both topics since 2016 or earlier, and has been taking real world actions aligned with both since becoming President. For H-1Bs, cracking down on the low skilled body shop segment and thus moving them up the value ladder to help the "great companies" in Silicon Valley that are deplatforming his supporters, and per reports I'm just reading this morning, now the yellow vest people in France.

WHY do you think Trump is the fool the media paint him as? Why do you think (have you even READ Art of the Deal?!) he is telling the TRUTH as he maneuvers to get his deals done. DEALS multiple deals! Not just Build the Wall but MAGA!! Jobs for AMERICANS.

Maybe this is 3D chess Art of the Deal, but it's horrible politics to continually tell his base he wants to bring in more foreign workers for Silicon Valley and "Ohio". This might conceivably help MAGA, but it won't help make American Workers Great Again.

I also got the strong impression he really wanted to amnesty the DACA illegal immigrants, felt they got a raw deal, is still offering that as part of a compromise to get the Wall built. Not sure why the Democrats have never bit on it, others think that for whatever reasons they want to keep these people as illegals, the GOPe certainly does because that'll keep labor cheaper.

I'll repeat my recent general assertions: in a great many ways, from legal immigration and temporary work visas, to gun control, to letting the "great companies" deplatform them, to letting Antifa etc. bloody them on the streets since 2016, while severely prosecuting those who fight back, Trump is showing that he doesn't care about his base or in some cases, assuming he never had control of his DoJ even when Sessions was directly acting against his base, can't help his base.

A lot of people here really don't want to hear this, but enough betrayals and he'll end up like G. H. W. Bush in 1992 if the Democrats manage to avoid nominating a complete barking loon in 2020. If he fails to get a significant part of the Wall built by then, a Trumpslide is very questionable.

Blogger Avalanche January 11, 2019 8:41 AM  

@94 "At least 13 people have been killed in ... most of them from avalanches.

*What* have you done?"

OH! I hereby completely disavow any actions, now or in future, by ANY avalanche operating on its own decision(s)! (Also, I'm not going to disclose the meetings we MIGHT or might not be having about travel arrangements towards cities...)

"I know nuthink!"

(oh hell, and 3/4s of y'all are prob'ly too young to remember that schlock show.... Oh well.)

Blogger Avalanche January 11, 2019 8:43 AM  

@98 "*What* have you done?
Who knew walls of text were lethal?"

Who knew dead guys could comment? {wink}

Blogger xevious2030 January 11, 2019 9:59 AM  

@118
That's the big worry. Why I use talk about things along the lines of probability and potential. The old scary thing of official doctrine versus observed doctrine. Is it talk, or a useful artificial fog of war? I haven't seen him sitting down to a game of chess, but have seen his heavy involvement in boxing, high up in the food chain, and this appears a better match to his tendencies in government than chess.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 11, 2019 10:25 AM  

Random #57 wrote:I'll repeat my recent general assertions: in a great many ways, from legal immigration and temporary work visas, to gun control, to letting the "great companies" deplatform them, to letting Antifa etc. bloody them on the streets since 2016, while severely prosecuting those who fight back, Trump is showing that he doesn't care about his base or in some cases, assuming he never had control of his DoJ even when Sessions was directly acting against his base, can't help his base.

What Trump wants isn't what his base wants, though there is much overlap.

Can't defend his base, or doesn't want to? There is some evidence for can't, but I lean toward doesn't want to. If he pardoned those who defend themselves against antifa, he'd make the anarcho-tyranny explicit. I don't think he wants to admit that, even to himself. I also don't think he wants to be the president who makes anarcho-tyranny visible. That would be a game changer, and he doesn't want to change the game. He wants to be another Roosevelt, but we need another Jackson.

If Trump is loyal to his people, but doesn't support Trump voters who are being attacked and deplatformed, then Trump voters aren't his people.

We need to end the kritarchy, end the central bank, end the vote fraud, and he's unwilling to do any of that, so far. At least he's starting to get serious about a wall.

Blogger Random #57 January 11, 2019 10:59 AM  

@122 Ominous Cowherd:

We need to end the kritarchy, end the central bank, end the vote fraud, and he's unwilling to do any of that, so far.

He's fully accepting the kritarchy, which in the 9th Circuit, the Southern New York district which includes Manhattan, and probably elsewhere is stymieing a great deal of his agenda by issuing nationwide injunctions, even over his reversal of Obama's DACA presidential memorandum, the courts and Obama being entirely lawless. The central bank, that's not even on the horizon, although I'm less interested in that because history has shown we're entirely capable of enjoying financial panics and long economic depressions when we don't have one.

The vote fraud is the big one because "Rule Number One? The Doctor lies. Has to. So do I. All the time." aside, I assume he is running for reelection, and I was assuming he cared about the fate of the Republic, that as VD thought, he ran for President, putting a huge target on his and his family's back for something more than ego. And too much of his agenda shows he's very serious about economics and businesses in ways that break from the ruling class' desires, like deep sixing a bunch of regulations which has continued through last year, ending the TPP, pulling us out of the Paris Climate Accord, replacing NAFTA, renegotiating our relationship with China, and the most significant tax cut package since Reagan's first one.

And those are all paying for themselves, look at the official Federal revenue statistics you can look up in lots of places, or this overview:

Which covers the first quarter of the Federal fiscal year, the last three months of 2018. Interestingly, the $9 billion loss from corporate tax rate cuts was almost matched by an $8 billion rise in tariffs, very traditional pre-FDR Republican policy. Total Federal receipts were up by $2 billion compared to a year ago, but of course as we learned during the Reagan years, increased receipts just mean more leverage to borrow money, Federal spending was up by $93 billion. The Fed made a $21 billion contribution to that between lower payments to the Treasury and increasing the cost of its borrowing.

Blogger Random #57 January 11, 2019 11:32 AM  

@122 Ominous Cowherd:

A thought which just occurred to me about Trump's pardons: he's done ones to correct political prosecutions, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, bullshit misdemeanor criminal contempt of court, "Scooter" Libby, G. W. Bush burned a lot of bridges by allowing that farce to play out and only commuting his sentence, Dinesh D'Souza, who was guilty as hell of "straw donor" illegal campaign contributions but selectively prosecuted, the Hammonds, the Official cause of the Bundy wildlife center occupation, and a Navy Seal guilty of much less than Hillary on handing of classified information, who used that argument in his defense. Plus black boxer Jack Johnson for his 105 year old Mann Act conviction.

Every single pardon political in nature. So was one of his 2 additional commutations, aligned with the Kim Kardashian jailbreak he signed, the other of Sholom Rubashkin of the kosher meatpacking firm infamy, which looks political, although he got a huge prison term compared to those who made plea deals for immigration related fraud, vs. his conviction for financial fraud, based on one thing turned into 86 federal charge convictions, G. W. Bush wanted to make an example of him and that business (were many or any other meatpackers just as guilty raided and prosecuted?). And he didn't walk free, still had supervised release and restitution.

Blogger Random #57 January 11, 2019 2:21 PM  

And more 3D underwater chess, Tweet this morning:

H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship. We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S.

Brought to my attention yet again by Breitbart.com, and as I recall the citizenship pipeline for Indians is now very long, just checked and it's 151 years as of last summer. Yep, MAGA with more Pajeets.

Maybe he thinks high end STEM workers will never vote for him? That's in reference to his administration attacking the low end, for example Infosys type body shops.

Blogger kurt9 January 11, 2019 2:58 PM  

I generally share your guys view about immigration and the wall. However, it is worth considering that walls work both ways. A wall that is built to keep people out can also be used to keep people IN. Do we really want something that could potentially turn into a "Berlin Wall"?

Blogger Random #57 January 11, 2019 3:12 PM  

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Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 14, 2019 9:17 PM  

A wall that is built to keep people out can also be used to keep people IN. Do we really want something that could potentially turn into a "Berlin Wall"?

Yes. Think about why.

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