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Wednesday, January 30, 2019

Virginia embraces abomination

The sooner the USA collapses, the better it will be for everyone, especially American children:
Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D.) commented Wednesday about a controversial 40-week abortion bill and in so doing said the law allows an abortion to take place after the infant's birth.

"If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.

A Democratic lawmaker in the Virginia House of Delegates proposed a bill Tuesday that would allow abortions through the end of the third trimester of pregnancy. The video of Delegate Kathy Tran presenting her bill led to an exchange where she admitted that her bill would allow for a mother to abort her child minutes before giving birth.
If post-birth abortion becomes legal in Virginia, I expect events are going to play out a little differently there than the abortion advocates envision.

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178 Comments:

Blogger Damn Crackers January 30, 2019 2:55 PM  

Maybe we can stop these abortions if we convince the Dems that abortions destroy the boys Hollywood molests.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 30, 2019 2:57 PM  

The alt-retards will support this, it basically comes down to eugenics.

Blogger Yordan Yordanov January 30, 2019 2:58 PM  

As it stands right now, when one thing is permissible in one state, then it is permissible in every states. Just one plane ticket away!

I wonder if anyone is going to do secession on the basis of "think of the Children". We'll have to wait and see I guess...

Blogger Joe Smith January 30, 2019 2:59 PM  

Wow. If anyone doubted the existence of evil before now, which would have been stupid, that should put an end to it. That's amazing.

Blogger veryfunnyminion January 30, 2019 3:01 PM  

If they decide the baby should die, do they place the baby in an urn by the temple?

Where's an actual Rebel Dead Revenge when you need one?

Blogger c0pperheaded January 30, 2019 3:02 PM  

Why are all of these states doing this at the same time?

Blogger Yordan Yordanov January 30, 2019 3:04 PM  

@5

Because we're all middle class pussies.

@6

Because as people become more permissible of evil, evil shall spread faster and faster.

Blogger S. Thermite January 30, 2019 3:08 PM  

Virginia is for lovers...

Anonymous Anonymous January 30, 2019 3:08 PM  

I'm sure that it is not only expectant mothers in Virginia who have candidates for post-birth abortion in mind ...

The Left have not learned the lesson of what happens when they set the rules of engagement, for the simple reason that the NOT-Left have been woefully inadequate in making them experience the direct consequences of those rules.

As was said long ago: "BECAUSE sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, THEREFORE the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil."

I pray the good people of Virginia will act speedily ...

Blogger JAG January 30, 2019 3:08 PM  

The Satanic Left's solution to the horrors of Gosnell is to legalize the horrors of Gosnell.

No matter how underhanded, conniving, or evil you imagine a leftist to be, you will always fall short of reality.

Blogger TM Lutas January 30, 2019 3:08 PM  

Instead of making fatuous comments longing for the collapse of the United States, perhaps the people who are rightly horrified by this will finally do what should have been done after Gosnell was caught, undertake a 50 state review as to the state of US infanticide protections.

And yes, I know that writing this is tantamount to volunteering. Is anybody already doing this? I don't want duplication of effort.

Blogger Silly but True January 30, 2019 3:12 PM  

Depending on the amount of time allowed after exit, I could support post-birth abortion for certain cases.

Anonymous Anonymous January 30, 2019 3:14 PM  

Speaking of which:

Gosnell actor: Cuomo’s radical new abortion law ‘would make the crimes of Kermit Gosnell legal’

Blogger FUBARwest January 30, 2019 3:14 PM  

WTF. How is this not murder?!?! I would use this example when discussing how abortion was murder but now they are just going to legalize it right out?!

How can anyone say the Dems arent satanic.

Blogger JAG January 30, 2019 3:15 PM  

There is also the unavoidable question here too as to whether or not State Governors can legalize murder itself simply by signing a bill.

Not only that, but shat should the penalty be for those that do try legalize it?

Perhaps Northam should face trial for attempted murder, or murder itself for any person terminated post birth.

Blogger Johnny January 30, 2019 3:15 PM  

Post postpartum abortion is a misnomer, it is baby killing. If you look into it, we humans are more given to that then you might think.

What I find most upsetting are the people who have an enthusiasm for it.

Blogger Starboard January 30, 2019 3:18 PM  

6. C0pperheaded, I suspect they doubt RBG will last until a liberal president can appoint her replacement, not that overturning Roe v. Wade would impact states that want to allow abortions. It also smells of a last ditch assault against civilization. They got impatient with the long march through the institutions and want their brutal utopia now.

Add A. M. Freeman's "The Edge of Detachment" to the list of books and stories that were meant to be cautionary tales and became documentaries.

Blogger The Virginian January 30, 2019 3:18 PM  

God damn it, you're embarrassing me, Virginia.

Actually, it's really just NoVa and a select few other locations in the state that make 99% of the decisions for the rest of us. NoVa is mostly populated with ex-New Yorkers and Washington Swamp Beasts anyways, so this really comes as no surprise.

Sure we need a wall on the US southern border, but we Virginians need to build a wall around NoVa, Hampton Roads, and Charlottesville too.

Blogger OGRE January 30, 2019 3:21 PM  

Fucking disgusting. and the left claims to be the side with empathy.

These outrageous abortion bills do serve a purpose, as they will likely be quickly challenged and could provide an avenue for bringing Roe v Wade up before the Supreme Court, hopefully with less justices favorable to baby murder than before. And they also galvanize the issue; these types of things don't sit well with the softer 'pro-choice' types and makes the "abortion is murder" argument much more vivid and valid.

Blogger Sammi Hass January 30, 2019 3:21 PM  

One of the few politicians who have a link to their email address, and not just a form.

DelKTran@house.virginia.gov

>Hey Kathy,

Concerned Christian here. Wondering why you are proposing murder in legislature while presenting pictures of your own not-aborted kids on your delegate page? Shouldn't you role model your ideas?

Sam

Blogger Pioneer Spirit January 30, 2019 3:22 PM  

Almost every state needs walls of various degrees. I wonder how much better Ohio would be if the invasion from rural Kentucky and WVa had not occured.
We just elected a governor who is pro- life.
I see so many wonderful meme worthy comments here.

Blogger DonReynolds January 30, 2019 3:24 PM  

My own birth certificate is a "Certificate of Live Birth", signed by a physician. There are required by law, so I guess the Virginia law would require a birth certificate and death certificate on the same day?

This is ghastly....even bloodthirsty.

Blogger Shadowfax January 30, 2019 3:25 PM  

I've been wondering whether anything like this was predicted in the Bible. I can't think of any passage and a quick search turned up nothing. The worst predictions are like: 'your offspring will belong to others' and 'you will eat your own children out of hunger'. The latter is pretty gruesome, but still a long way away from just killing your own children because you don't want them.

Why wasn't something so glaringly evil predicted in any of those doom prophecies? I guess because the people back then would have been incapable of believing it. What good would it have done them to hear something so utterly incomprehensible?

Blogger Dirk Manly January 30, 2019 3:26 PM  

I remember when the leftist went virtually INSANE one day, all over a one-time gag by Rush Limbaugh using a recording of a vacuum cleaner.

He called it "caller abortions."

One day, in the summer of, I believe 1993, during one segment, lasting about 30 minutes, with any leftist caller who he didn't feel like talking to, he gave the studio engineer to run the vacuum cleaner sound effect as the call was cut.

ONE segment.
Of ONE day.

I happened to be listening that day, and heard all 3 or 4 "caller abortions" er.. "it's not a caller, it's a choice!" from the first to the last.

It's been nearly 20 years, and they're STILL in an absolute OUTRAGE over it. I think it's because it reminds them that if post-natal abortions are legal, then the most prominent candidates for such will be none other than themselves, if the greater society has even the slightest say in the matter.
https://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=rush+limbaugh+caller+abortion+-site%3Arushlimbaugh.com

The left is TOTALLY freaked out over it. They now are absolutely certain that this went on, not just for days, or weeks, or even months, but for years.

For an example of the effect, this writer on Quora words his statement as if Limbaugh did that shtick for years, rather than a mere handful of callers:

https://www.quora.com/What-are-Rush-Limbaughs-views-on-abortion

Blogger widlast washere January 30, 2019 3:26 PM  

It never ceases to amaze me that the unwashed masses don't seem to be able to comprehend how evil this is.
Sign of the times I guess. God has raised His hand we're just all waiting for the slap.

Blogger Garuna January 30, 2019 3:27 PM  

B-B-But slippery slopes aren't real!

Blogger Haxo Angmark January 30, 2019 3:27 PM  

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Anonymous Anonymous January 30, 2019 3:27 PM  

"Perhaps Northam should face trial for attempted murder, or murder itself for any person terminated post birth."

Conspiracy to commit (mass) murder?

Blogger Warunicorn January 30, 2019 3:30 PM  

It's sh*t like this that makes me wonder if we really deserve God's mercy, but then I remember how much tribulation we have to go through anyway.

We're taken to task when we want to send a cold-blooded murderer to the great beyond, but dare question the murder of life at its most innocent? Why, that's beyond the pale!

Blogger CM January 30, 2019 3:30 PM  

^what he said. Walls for EVERYONE.

Blogger DJT January 30, 2019 3:32 PM  

The mask is slipping. No country this side of Pyongyang has as vile abortion laws as America. "The mother's health" isn't a factor if the child is born. Maybe it will slip enough to wake people up.

And enjoy your damnation, Northam.

Blogger Zapp Brannigan January 30, 2019 3:39 PM  

The woman who proposed this bill (I refuse to say her name) was a close friend of my wife's at Duke. We attended her wedding and she was a bridesmaid in our wedding. I never got to know her all that well since we lived in separate states, but I remember her as an affable young woman who smiled a lot and laughed at my jokes. The last I saw her was at her tiny apartment in DC where she had settled down with her husband (a nice, quiet Jewish guy she met at Duke). It had been a really pleasant visit.

I'm fucking dumbfounded to see this.

I know I shouldn't be; my wife mentioned last year that she had won a seat in the Virginia House as a Democrat. I rolled my eyes, but I went on with my life. I mean, what can you say? Not everyone is going to agree with your view of the world. But holy God in heaven, I would have NEVER thought it possible that she would draft a bill like this. It's straight up infanticide. And I can't believe this woman is now enshrined forever in our wedding photos.

One more thing: this woman has FOUR children of her own.

Blogger Rifle Man January 30, 2019 3:42 PM  

Tran is not American, she's Vietnamese.
Vietnam has the highest abortion rate in the world.
Another example of importing contradictory cultural values into the country.

One can just as easily see a Chinese immigrant getting elected and starting to push "One Child" bills.

Immigrants should not be allowed to hold any office or vote, until at LEAST the third generation.

Blogger Longtime Lurker January 30, 2019 3:43 PM  

Governor Ralph "Death Cult" Northam. Or Gov. Death Cult for short.

And that (D) after his name?

That too stands for Death Cult.

Repetition is key.

Blogger Amy January 30, 2019 3:52 PM  

I gave birth at 39, 37, and 39 weeks. 37 weeks was an induced birth due to a minor complication that hasn’t affected either of us.

I have a friend who has two children born with a hereditary muscular deficiency. It doesn’t have effects on intellectual ability m just movement. She knew this before she gave birth, both times (she has four kids overall). She chose life, and hot da*n but those kids are a joy to be around.

WHEN did this happen? Slippery slope or boiled frog? I don’t know. But I would put my faith in God to save my child, before I decided murder was the better option.

39 weeks? 40 weeks? That is murder and I cannot believe it’s even being debated. I don’t want to believe it...

Blogger The Cooler January 30, 2019 3:53 PM  

Walls for EVERYONE

Hear, hear.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club January 30, 2019 3:53 PM  

@32 - Real shocker that Ho Chi Goldberg wants to clear out any competition for her mongrel hellspawn.

"Immigrants should not be allowed to hold any office or vote" full stop. While we're at it, it's clear the 19th needs to go, too, since the "women care the most about the childrens" is exposed as the self-righteous prattle that it always was.

Blogger Fargoth January 30, 2019 3:54 PM  

"It would be better that a millstone were tied around their neck, and they were thrown into the depths of the ocean"

Blogger Cecil Henry January 30, 2019 3:55 PM  

Don't think there's no such thing as a slippery slope



If you think they'll be done at birth you're not understanding the real spirit that animates this.


Expect the timeline to allow killing the baby to extend well beyond first minutes.... on to days and who knows.


Blogger Cogniblog January 30, 2019 3:55 PM  

There should be an inquiry issued by the Republican party on whether Ginsberg is in a non-comatose state.

Blogger Gianna January 30, 2019 3:59 PM  

This is the progressive left is laying the groundwork for the horror that will be their single tax payer health system. NY and their "non-physician" abortions was about that too.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 30, 2019 3:59 PM  

These are the same people who think it's cruelly inhumane to get milk from cows and eggs from chickens.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 30, 2019 4:02 PM  

It's just a matter of time until we start hearing horror stories about mothers whose babies were murdered by hospitals because the moms didn't understand the paperwork they were signing. Thanks to these monsters, a great way to avoid liability for medical mishaps during childbirth is to just murder the baby.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 30, 2019 4:05 PM  

It's been defeated now, thank God.

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2019 4:05 PM  

> WTF. How is this not murder?!?!

It is.

> Perhaps Northam should face trial for attempted murder, or murder itself for any person terminated post birth.

Accessory or incitement. Take your pick.

> Sure we need a wall on the US southern border, but we Virginians need to build a wall around NoVa, Hampton Roads, and Charlottesville too.

Cut off the state and federal money to UVa and Charlottesville will rapidly return to the sleepy little Virginia country town it was.

Blogger inthebriarpatch January 30, 2019 4:06 PM  

I've been trolling pro-abortionists for a while with "If pre-birth abortion is moral then so is post-birth abortion." I didn't expect it to get to this so quickly though.

However, it's not surprising because this is truth: If God does not exist, then abortion is not wrong. How can it be? If we are all just re-arranged pond scum, then abortion and murder is just one clump of cells eliminating another clump of cells. If all we are is atoms and cells, abortion isn't wrong. But if God doesn't exist, then post-birth abortion and murder (same thing) isn't wrong.

If God doesn't exist, genocide isn't wrong. If God doesn't exist, Hitler did nothing wrong.

An atheist can engage in moral acts. An atheist can lead a moral life. But the second an atheist speaks of good and evil, then she must steal from God, for without God, evil is just whatever we label as evil. That's relative morality and in a world of no absolute morality, good and evil are just social constructs that can change with the times and the mood.

Without God, an atheist can do good, an atheist can even point out evil, but without God, the atheist cannot JUSTIFY what they mean by good or evil.

Blogger K G January 30, 2019 4:06 PM  

I thought doctors had an oath to do no harm to a patient? Assuming oaths ever matter, wouldn’t murder be doing harm to a baby?

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2019 4:10 PM  

> An atheist can engage in moral acts. An atheist can lead a moral life. But the second an atheist speaks of good and evil, then she must steal from God, for without God, evil is just whatever we label as evil.

As Vox has said, their only argument is might makes right. That's all they'll ever have.

The reverse pendulum swing this time is going to be a doozy.

Blogger Blaidd January 30, 2019 4:11 PM  

@The Virginian

You'd be better off pushing them into Chesapeake Bay. No chance they break containment that way.

Blogger Cecil Henry January 30, 2019 4:14 PM  

@47:

Of course its murder.

But the mentality of those proposing this is that the woman (note I don't say mother, because they won't) is the only patient here to do harm to.


The woman hired the doctor. No one else. They think its just her call.

THAT is the whole basis of pro-choice. Isn't it?


Blogger carnaby January 30, 2019 4:14 PM  

It would be great fun to tie these people in knots by introducing a bill that only banned abortion for white women.

Blogger Sammi Hass January 30, 2019 4:19 PM  

Tran is not American, she's Vietnamese.
Vietnam has the highest abortion rate in the world.
Another example of importing contradictory cultural values into the country.


Also a Buddhist. Maybe she thinks bodies are fungible.

Blogger Achilles January 30, 2019 4:19 PM  

Tell me again that Blood Libel isn't true. Filthy Bloodsucking Satanic Jews.

Blogger Hauen Holzwanderer January 30, 2019 4:23 PM  

Post-birth abortion. Nice of them to redefine murder like that. I wonder how that would work as a legal defense in the near future. “He had badthink your honor, so I performed a post-birth abortion for the good of the proletariat. We all know his mother should have done it 40 years ago.” Now if you’ll excuse me I’m off to buy a toboggan. May as well try to have some fun on the ride down the slippery slope.

Blogger Matamoros January 30, 2019 4:25 PM  

@47 "I thought doctors had an oath to do no harm to a patient?"

That was the Hippocratic Oath. It was quietly replaced years ago by the Oath of Maimonides.

Blogger Stilicho January 30, 2019 4:25 PM  

Mene Mene Tekel...


I don't know what form God's vengeance on these worshipers of Moloch will take, but I expect the Babylonians got off light in comparison.

Blogger camcleat January 30, 2019 4:26 PM  

@14

"WTF. How is this not murder?!?!"

Churchian re-write coming soon:

"Thou Shalt Not Kill Unless A Mother Her Baby."

or perhaps

"Only Men Can Murder! When women kill, it's All Good."

Blogger Watcher of the skies January 30, 2019 4:28 PM  

and they tell me liberals are compassionate... what a crock.

Blogger Barbarossa January 30, 2019 4:32 PM  

@47 Left out of that snippet at the beginning, for those of you not familiar with Virginia politics, is the fact that Governor Northam is actually Governor Doctor Northam. That's right. A genuine MD with a specialty in...pediatric neurology. This isn't a gaffe. This isn't some stupid politician running at the mouth trying to pander to his leftist base. This is a licensed medical doctor with practical experience treating children. He knows exactly what issues are in play. Moloch's attending physician indeed.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 30, 2019 4:33 PM  

Someone should be making a list of these people. And their votes.

Blogger Duke Nukem January 30, 2019 4:37 PM  

Looks like pro-choice people can no longer fall back on the "it's just a fetus" argument to justify murder.

Blogger Cogniblog January 30, 2019 4:37 PM  

@Barbarossa (#59) this is what I visualize whenever I read or hear "moloch."

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 30, 2019 4:44 PM  

Hey guys lets focus on what's really important

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/01/29/feral-cats-shelters/?fbclid=IwAR3FfSPDKblN5J1S6lD39dCRcg8-oaXyfuFqUh5nCSdO5nox4s4N8XhNVDY

Blogger One Deplorable DT January 30, 2019 4:44 PM  

@14 - How can anyone say the Dems arent satanic.

By lying through their teeth.

@33 - Immigrants should not be allowed to hold any office or vote, until at LEAST the third generation.

It would have been easier to say "Immigrants should not be allowed."

@54 - I wonder how that would work as a legal defense in the near future. “He had badthink your honor, so I performed a post-birth abortion for the good of the proletariat. We all know his mother should have done it 40 years ago.”

That is exactly how they want it to work. The left has been telling you this is how they want it to work. Historically this is how it always ends up working with the left once they have sufficient power.

If you don't see the left as a long term lethal threat not just to your country but to your very existence then you're not paying attention.

Blogger pyrrhus January 30, 2019 4:51 PM  

Hey, this is not so bad Comrades!....In Cuba, you can murder your child up to the age of one....Oh, wait...that's what it will be in the US in a few years.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey January 30, 2019 4:56 PM  

@31 DJT
"The mother's health" isn't a factor if the child is born.

But the way the pilpul usually works on that one is that "health" includes "mental health" = "the thought of raising a child is making me sad" = "depression."

@37
Ho Chi Goldberg

Thread winner.

Blogger Fargoth January 30, 2019 4:56 PM  

@59 People have absolutely no idea how twisted and satanic a sizable proportion of the MDs in this country are. No idea whatsoever. There's lots of talk about the infiltration of big tech, media, banking, etc., but I would argue the medical system is significantly more destructie and hateful towards the American people than any of the aforementioned groups.

Blogger Damn the torpedos January 30, 2019 5:00 PM  

The issue of abortion is what woke me up to the fact that alt retards are satanists

No child should be ripped apart upon birth. Period.

Blogger Zbignu January 30, 2019 5:02 PM  

Under this bill, up to what age are we allowed to abort? Is the bill's sponsor a candidate?

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Blogger Jimmy January 30, 2019 5:10 PM  

Evil yes. But liberals are going to kill their own newborns in larger numbers. So not worried, when someone else like the government decides then I will worry more.

They will push the age up a few years. That preteen getting on your nerves, post-birth him. Collage just to much, post-birth him. Things can get real old school Roman.

Blogger cheddarman January 30, 2019 5:12 PM  

Does this mean we can give all cultural marxists a retro-active abortion? Asking for a friend

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Blogger dienw January 30, 2019 5:19 PM  

They Left is doubling down in its wickedness: they are piling up the sacrifices to Moloch almost as if they know the Lord God almighty is about to pour out His wrath soon; and they are spitting in His face. They are daring Him to act; I pray that He acts soon.

Blogger Man of the Atom January 30, 2019 5:21 PM  

Headline: Northam Throws Support to "Moloch's Law".

Blogger Rhys January 30, 2019 5:23 PM  

How about one aborted Democratic senator per aborted baby? Should take care of our problems in an afternoon at the rate American girls like to kill their babies.

Blogger Dirk Manly January 30, 2019 5:24 PM  

@61

"Looks like pro-choice people can no longer fall back on the "it's just a fetus" argument to justify murder."

What's the Latin word for the unborn? "fetus"
What's the Latin word AFTER it's borng? "fetus"

@62 Cognitive_deficiency_blog

@Barbarossa (#59) this is what I visualize whenever I read or hear "moloch."

Moloch has outstretched hands with PALMS UPWARD to hold a baby over a fire.

Haven't we already told you numerous times that you are NOT tall enough for this ride, and that the kiddie-motorcycle ride is more your speed? Why yes, yes we have.

"Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" counts on blogs, too.

Blogger dienw January 30, 2019 5:27 PM  

@19 Ogre
The United States is well past any remedy for abortion coming from the SCOTUS. As God has in the past, His remedy will most likely be such a severe famine that the left will be eating their children.

Blogger Sammi Hass January 30, 2019 5:27 PM  

I'd be willing to find all living relatives of those acquitted at the Nuremberg trials so we can staff a group of untouchables. Js.

Blogger tublecane January 30, 2019 5:30 PM  

@16- True. You aren't aborting anything at that point. It not even partial-birth abortion. It's infanticide.

Blogger John Best January 30, 2019 5:32 PM  

Just told my mother about this, she said why would that do that, whats the point. I said because they are evil.

Blogger DJT January 30, 2019 5:35 PM  

>Also a Buddhist.

It's a real problem. My sister works at a Christian pregnancy center, and it's impossible to convince Buddhists not to abort. They believe it will be reincarnated into better family, so no big deal.

They're still not as bad as pro-aborters though, because they at least believe the child has a soul. Abortionists are demons.

Blogger Kristophr January 30, 2019 5:39 PM  

Hmmm. This cuts both ways, as other have already noted.

"This isn't a firing squad. It's a post 72th trimester abortion."

Blogger Janus January 30, 2019 5:42 PM  

I'd almost be willing to say its time to Make Crucifixions Great Again, but then I stop myself and realize these people deserve far, far worse.

Grand Inquisitor Kurgan, we may lament it, but your services appear to be in ever increasing demand....

Blogger Oswald January 30, 2019 5:49 PM  

How will events play out differently if the law passess in Virginia? The American people have proved they will accepts any vile thing in the right circumstances.

Women wanted CHOICE! The Republican appointed Supreme Court gave the CHOICE.

And they CHOSE to kill 50 million innocents.

Blogger William Warren January 30, 2019 5:52 PM  

FUBARwest wrote:WTF. How is this not murder?!?! I would use this example when discussing how abortion was murder but now they are just going to legalize it right out?!

How can anyone say the Dems arent satanic.

While the Dems are the biggest pushers there are plenty of R folks that back this..just watcht he voting records or their statements in a year. The citizenry had their chance to reign in this evil and they kept voting these demons in...this country is going to get what it deserves for continued inaction by the electorate.

Blogger SciVo January 30, 2019 5:52 PM  

I suspect that the abortion issue is really about power. If they can force you to tolerate baby-killing, they can force you to do anything; so it makes a lousy goal to shoot for from the get-go, but a fantastic yardstick of just how much dictatorial power you have.

Blogger Jack Amok January 30, 2019 5:53 PM  

Perhaps Northam should face trial for attempted murder, or murder itself for any person terminated post birth.

If he was tried, convicted and sent to the chair, would it be classified as a post-birth abortion? Or a partial birth abortion, since Northam's soul doesn't seem to have made it out of the birth canal yet?

These are the same people who think it's cruelly inhumane to get milk from cows and eggs from chickens.

And the same people who want CPS taking kids away from parents.

Under this bill, up to what age are we allowed to abort? Is the bill's sponsor a candidate?

I don't see why not. If the law is meant to allow the killing of anyone who's a danger to someone else's health, everybody supporting the law absolutely qualifies.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 30, 2019 6:02 PM  

Zapp Brannigan wrote:The woman who proposed this bill (I refuse to say her name) was a close friend of my wife's at Duke. […] The last I saw her was at her tiny apartment in DC where she had settled down with her husband (a nice, quiet Jewish guy she met at Duke).Achilles wrote:Tell me again that Blood Libel isn't true. Filthy Bloodsucking Satanic Jews.
You may be on to something.

Blogger stevo January 30, 2019 6:07 PM  

Tells me a lot about you

Blogger SirHamster January 30, 2019 6:07 PM  

Janus wrote:I'd almost be willing to say its time to Make Crucifixions Great Again, but then I stop myself and realize these people deserve far, far worse.

Remember, when Jesus talked about millstones and drowning, he said this horrific death was a BETTER fate than what those who offend children deserve.

Blogger English Tom January 30, 2019 6:09 PM  

@FubarWest

This is the thin end of the wedge. If you want to see the full horror of where this leftist insanity is taking us, go on YouTube and search for: George Bernard Shaw: justify yourself.

The totalitarian lunatics of the left basically want to be able to get rid of anyone, at any time. All for the good of the community of course.

Blogger gunner451 January 30, 2019 6:10 PM  

For the past few years there have been several "experts" that have advocated for killing of post birth infants. The main argument being that they are not yet persons (non-persons) or not sentient. I've heard of the age being up to 5 years old. Of course then they'll go after the mentally handicapped and then those that are politically incorrect or have beliefs that are not in line with the SJWs. It is slowly becoming Nazi Germany.

Blogger English Tom January 30, 2019 6:11 PM  

@Johnny

Post-partum killing is simply murder. As is the case with ANY abortion.

Blogger Ilk in Training January 30, 2019 6:14 PM  

Judges. Supreme Court. Screw this noise! I'm so tired of every decision, right or wrong, being forced to be approved by one of these black-robed priests of the law. This is not how it was supposed to work. I weep for the America I knew.

Blogger Gen. Kong January 30, 2019 6:16 PM  

FUBARwest wrote:

WTF. How is this not murder?!?! I would use this example when discussing how abortion was murder but now they are just going to legalize it right out?!

How can anyone say the Dems arent satanic.


Of course it's murder. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together who isn't utterly depraved can see that much. However, that's the old Christian-based definition set up by those dead honkeys whose statutes are being pulled down nationwide (Texas in in the lead for this, by the way).

As always with the Crystal Methodists (a term coined by Whiskey or some other blogger to describe the religion of shitlibbery and yes it is a kind of religion despite all their protests of being secular rationalists, etc.), some murders are more equal than others. Executing a violent criminal for killing someone by putting them to sleep like a pet is a horrific murder but hacking a newborn to death is just a "medical procedure".

To the fake-American shitlib who introduced this bill, it's merely a business decision. Her (((backers))) are well-known for their massive profiteering from the body-part trade and did a booming business when Admiral McStain's ISIS friends operated some chop-shops to part out the slaughtered Christians, Alawites and Shiites they piled up - not to mention the parts distribution centers operated by the tax-funded Planned Parenthood. It's merely increasing economic opportunity for certain folks in Virginia (and elsewhere). She's just following Cuomo's big push in NY where anyone with a machete can become a "medical professional". To the shitlib, parts is parts and one should never let an opportunity go to waste any more than a crisis.

Blogger nidus of inflection January 30, 2019 6:18 PM  

Just waiting for someone to introduce a bill legalizing "post-natal abortion" for people of a certain group. Say, 60+ years old.
Teacher against student, old lion against young lion.

Blogger English Tom January 30, 2019 6:19 PM  

@Cecil Henry

Good observation and very true. See my reply,upthread re: George Bernard Shaw, justify yourself.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia January 30, 2019 6:20 PM  

I was at a "mainstream" conference a few years back, and at the dinner table with a mixed sex group the conversation turned to a "woman's right to choose." I posed the question -- "Are there limitations on this right, like there are limitations on the right to bear arms (you know, no personal nuclear warheads, for example)."

One woman said as long as the baby is inside the mother's womb, no matter how far along the gestation, it's the mother's right to choose. She was on the verge of anger when she said it.

I am rarely speechless, but that one left me numb.

It is becoming a "mainstream" position among feminists.

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Blogger Mark Stoval January 30, 2019 6:25 PM  

There is one thing missing in this discussion, or I missed it as I scanned over the thread.

Forget about the evil politicians who wrote the bill for a moment. What about the utterly evil WOMEN who would take advantage of this if they could? And WHY? Most know as soon as they find out they are preggers that they will abort. Why wait?

This is a Satanic bill for Satanic women. The USA is done for.

On the other hand, it is odd that I have lived long enough to see Russia as the last big holdout of Western Civilization. What a sad time to live in.

Blogger Adam Meek January 30, 2019 6:27 PM  

dont blame me, i voted for corey stewart

Blogger English Tom January 30, 2019 6:29 PM  

@Gen Kong

I read a book in the 90's called: the Human Body Shop and it told of the things you mentioned.

Blogger Mark Stoval January 30, 2019 6:30 PM  

KPKinSunnyPhiladelpia wrote:

One woman said as long as the baby is inside the mother's womb, no matter how far along the gestation, it's the mother's right to choose. She was on the verge of anger when she said it.



The murderous bitches have the right to choose not to create life in the first place. Especially in the age of universal birth control; they can CHOOSE not to bring the baby into the world. The murderous bitches do NOT have the right to commit murder by abortion.

I think they all are on the road to hell. Every one of them.

Blogger Cetera January 30, 2019 6:34 PM  

Mark Stoval wrote:I think they all are on the road to hell. Every one of them.

There's no "thinking" about it. It is certain. Hell was created for such people.

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Blogger Silly but True January 30, 2019 6:42 PM  

Yes. I was thinking it may be okay with exit window of between 18 to 90 years after ecit.

Blogger Hammerli280 January 30, 2019 6:43 PM  

I'm still not a fan of a collapse, the side-effects will be horrific.

What I see going on is that the Democrats have been taken over by the Rabid Left. Which is very good news for whoever the Republican candidate is, they will get to run against a latter-day George McGovern. Who Nixon crushed like an empty beer can in 1972.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon January 30, 2019 6:46 PM  

@100

"One woman said as long as the baby is inside the mother's womb, no matter how far along the gestation, it's the mother's right to choose. She was on the verge of anger when she said it."

I've encountered this before a few times. What I have found is that women completely flip flop once you bring up the issue of sex-selective abortion, wherein females are aborted because the (typically third world) parents want a male. Suddenly all that talk about a woman choosing goes out the window and they are all for the state intervening to protect females.

There was a major scandal in Canada a short while ago when statistics on sex selective abortion were released. Even though it is mostly brown women engaging in the practice, the feminists came out and howled.

Blogger Jay in DC January 30, 2019 6:48 PM  

" I expect events are going to play out a little differently there than the abortion advocates envision."

On this point, I must strongly disagree. No one is going to do anything. If they were, it would have happened several outrages ago.

Infanticide, so what... mah sportsball team is winning, and I have mah iPhag 8, and mah patriotism, and mah constitution, and mah guns! So kill all the babies you want.

NY passed this law so VA is just trying to keep pace with the 'virtue' signaling by increasing their satanic ritual sacrifice game.

We will see this ratified in most blue states nationwide and then we will move on to probably a 6 month 'post-term' abortion because maybe you changed your mind? Believe all wahmen! They are always telling the truth, even when they're lying. So if the mom is having mental health issues after buyer's regret from being a mother, just cave in that little skull. no harm, no foul.

Sodom & Gomorrah are a fairytale paradise compared to the decadent West. I pray for cleansing fire from the heavens every night be it in the form of celestial or nuclear, I care not. It never comes...

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 30, 2019 6:54 PM  

Leftist states are doing this on the potential that SCOTUS might overturn Roe v Wade.
I don't see "conservative" states going full Vermont on the second amendment ahead of what the leftists in congress might do to it.
Enemy people voted for this, enemy people cucked and voted for sellouts who grab their ankles at the mere accusation of "racist". Enemy people need comeuppance. A collapse and separation would be more peaceful. But leftist will to power being what it is... well we talked about this stuff since the 1990s and we got foolish and thought we could vote our way out of the inevitable.

Blogger JovianStorm January 30, 2019 6:57 PM  

Why not just let parents leave the infants on the side of a mountain like the Spartans? At least that way there's a small chance someone would take them in.

It's odd that the Left is pushing "a woman's right to choose" to such an extreme. It's this really what they want to spend their political capital on.. Not 2020 but killing newborns?

Blogger Jo K January 30, 2019 6:58 PM  

Evil. Just evil. It's not more complicated than that.

Sodom & Gomorrah, yes. Except there must be at least ten to fifty righteous men left somewhere about, thus sparing the whole.

Blogger eclecticme January 30, 2019 6:59 PM  

@66. Francis Parker Yockey January 30, 2019 4:56 PM
@31 DJT
"The mother's health" isn't a factor if the child is born.

But the way the pilpul usually works on that one is that "health" includes "mental health" = "the thought of raising a child is making me sad" = "depression."


I think the SCOTUS ruled that health of the mother included mental health.

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Blogger urthshu January 30, 2019 7:16 PM  

I believe it's because they fear Roe v. Wade will be rolled back now that RBG is at the end of her life. This way there's a timewaster case to forestall more direct consideration.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd January 30, 2019 7:33 PM  

Fuck. This. Gay. Earth.

Blogger SciVo January 30, 2019 7:39 PM  

JovianStorm wrote:It's odd that the Left is pushing "a woman's right to choose" to such an extreme. It's this really what they want to spend their political capital on.. Not 2020 but killing newborns?

Lacking empathy, the only way that sociopaths can tell for sure how much power they have over you is by exercising it. So, they will absolutely keeping pushing the envelope; and if they ever succeeded at getting the culture to despise childbirth, they would ban abortion in a fetus's heartbeat. A policy is only fun for our Leets if it's against our will.

Blogger CitizenOutkast January 30, 2019 7:46 PM  

So was there a rider that included funds to erect alters to Molech in the bill?

Well, conservatives, you truly believed that the left really saw a fetus as a "clump of cells," and that they weren't really just evil, bloodthirsty killers. Are you starting to see what the left really is yet?

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 30, 2019 7:48 PM  

It's this really what they want to spend their political capital on.. Not 2020 but killing newborns?

Yes. Abortion is their sacrament. It overrides everything else political for them.

Also, everyone they know is pro-abortion like they are, so they don't believe pushing it to the extreme will hurt them politically.

Blogger OldFan January 30, 2019 8:12 PM  

The central issue of all abortion laws is to pa=place moral decisions of life and death on the hands of the State alone. Family and God - the State's primary opponents- are specifically excluded and thus rendered impotent.

Any peaceful remedy to this situation has probably already been exhausted - so what remains to us?

Blogger Kristophr January 30, 2019 8:21 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:

...

And the same people who want CPS taking kids away from parents.

...



Why bother taking them away. Now CPS can just roll up the carbon monoxide murderwagon.

Blogger Jay in DC January 30, 2019 8:22 PM  

"@Jay in DC.

I am willing to do something. Are you? No judgment intended."

I've already had my 'Alamo' moment and I acted alone. I was nearly destroyed by TPTB and the State in the process. Unemployable and on the radar of federal agencies. So no sir, I'll be sitting this one out.

But if there were even 5 of me in a group of 100 men this would never happen. I seem to be a lone wolf unfortunately.

Just curious though, what is your plan? Anything you can talk about in a public space? Mine didn't work out so well it looked sort of like what just happened to Roger Stone recently, just a few less vehicles in my front yard and more stun grenades in my home.

Blogger Mike Gray January 30, 2019 8:27 PM  

If these people argue that abortion after birth on a whim is OK, I cannot see how they can logically argue that killing any person of any age for any reason is wrong. Sadly, they probably wouldn’t actually argue it if they were inclined to be honest.

Blogger Servant January 30, 2019 8:29 PM  

Why are we shocked? The enemy lowers his mask a little? Pro lifers have been saying for years that there is no difference between 17 years and 17 days. That baby is a unique person, knitted together by God. They have always agreed with us! Just like we hem and haw and use doublespeak to pass laws intended to make it harder to get an abortion under the guise of the health of the mother, they use doublespeak to pass lawsto make it easier to kill babies. Child sacrifice is the end game folks. We know they don't care about liberty, they don't care about mothers, just more bodies! It is all they want. Next time someone invites you to a reasonable discussion about abortion, remember this! They are Satan's willing instrument. They are sworn members of a death cult that tolerates nothing but the very strictest obedience. That scandalizes their members and sears their conscience to the point they become drones, another useful cog in their consumption engine.

Nothing to see here, the worship of moloch continues apace.

Blogger Sammi Hass January 30, 2019 8:32 PM  

Who thinks hospitals are already doing this and that politicans, perhaps in concert with insurance companies, are using this bill to force Catholic hospitals to vivisect babies?

https://vacatholic.org/votervoice-post/?vvid=1123

My question: what strategy selection is best? I'm a tactician, so bear in mind my idea is weighted that way. From the link, my responses in boldface.

HB 2491 (Delegate Tran) would have eliminated the requirement that second trimester abortions be performed in a hospital;

cold call medicentres and at-risk-urban-youth centers, and insurance call centers and sell the workers on striking against that detestable labor. Act like a creep at the smokers pit and get those seeds planted. No willing workers and their signatures on a plebiscite? No point of sale.

eliminated most of the procedures and processes, including the performance of an ultrasound,

Talk to schools that do radiology degrees and get into the alumni group. Talk to people trained in it and workers. Talk to people about the value in that service and how it's a diagnostic tool and a keepsake.

required to obtain a woman's informed written consent before an abortion;

hospitals have ethics boards afaik and consent is Nuremberg code stuff. Informed consent means you've been briefed before the procedure and are of sound mind to understand your compliance even after debriefing. At least that's how I applied it and was taught. Go to the admin at hospitals and ask for informational interviews. Sell as above

eliminated the requirement that two other physicians certify that a third trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman's death or impairment of her mental or physical health;

Go to the college of physicians.

eliminated the need to find a substantial and irremediable health impairment in order to obtain an abortion anytime in the third trimester;

Well now. Use your imagination.

I figure putting up walls against this bill, even if it's dead, is still worth doing. This is part of a bigger strategy that's playing out in Catholic healthcare and palliative care, that I am sure of based on euthanasia in Canada playing out. It's the strategizing I'm not sure about like goal marks, time frame, working groups.

Blogger James Dixon January 30, 2019 8:35 PM  

> I am willing to do something. Are you? No judgment intended.

To save these people from what's coming by forcing morality on them? No. Let them kill their own children.

Blogger The Deplorable Podunk Ken Ramsey January 30, 2019 9:01 PM  

I'm a Virginian. My family has been here in Virginia since before there was a United States. I am typing this from Virginia, where we still live.

The thing is, we have lost control of our state. We have become overwhelmed by outsiders, and they also are aggressively pushed everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, about historical Virginia to the side with spite.

We're outnumbered at the ballot box. We can't win at the ballot box. And the pace and the toll of our defeats at the ballot box are increasing every time.

Heritage Virginians are approaching the status of the American Indians.

Be warned.

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Blogger Longtime Lurker January 30, 2019 9:14 PM  

@129: Plus you've got proggy proselytizers coming across the river from DC. Those ground troops give the state Dems an added advantage. Virginia is turning blue.

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Blogger The Observer January 30, 2019 9:42 PM  

It's a real problem. My sister works at a Christian pregnancy center, and it's impossible to convince Buddhists not to abort. They believe it will be reincarnated into better family, so no big deal.

One thing to remember is that orientals (and I am one) have no sense of the uniqueness of the human soul. In Christendom, you have the concept of the Imago Dei -- man is made in the image of God, hence humans are special and souled. Chinese/Shinto buddhism still has a lot of its animistic roots in it, and where even a car or a tool has an animating spirit, there's really no metaphysical difference between you and a pig or a hoe. If you slaughter a pig and dispose of a hoe when they're no longer wanted, the same goes for humans.

It's how you get the situation that faced missionaries to China: unwanted babies strewn everywhere in the streets. They don't have the idea that human life is uniquely different.

Blogger jwshell January 30, 2019 9:47 PM  

@65
Didn't some guy named Peter Singer propose that parents should have the right to kill a baby they decided they didn't want for up to a month after birth about 20 years ago?

Blogger Diogenes January 30, 2019 9:57 PM  

I thought his heyday was about 40 years ago? Mid 1970s?

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella January 30, 2019 10:17 PM  

It's more than Peter Singer. It's Hrdy, and other Ivy League brains.

Look, if you have Harris' medical finance proposals- supporters already concede America will need to import low-pay, low-skill, low- IQ doctors- rather than having Americans enjoy high IQ, upper middle class, well-trained doctors- then you'll get situations like the NHS allows: incompetent doctors accidentally dismantling children= beheading them while in the birth canal. This protects incompetent doctors from liability.

Second: they have the stats on who gets late term abortions. It's mostly immigrant women. They shock clinic workers with their ease in scheduling appointments farther along- it's just easier to ignore it, or they don't want to think about it.

Third off- think of who gets to be in the room? The justification was 'deformities.' There's a fairly decent chance the 'deformity' is a father gone missing. The men who leave their partners are not Asian.

The state knows that mothers of mixed-race children rely on the state for their sustenance. This is especially horrifying b/c the girls that would be sitting next to young men who pressure them into early sexual activity are public school girls. They are poorer girls than the sheltered children of politicians. Poorer southern girls are also more likely to be low-church- they know that they are committing a sin, but they are also trained in submission- they'll do what's right by any authority, and then blame themselves alone.


We already know that state agencies- especially social workers and police- are very comfortable invading delivery rooms. They do this for immediate drug testing, to seize the children, already. Do you think they would restrain themselves from invading 'suspicious' deliveries.

We also know that various agencies have, in the past, covertly managed some populations fertility: Bush signed rules about spaying Native American women and Puerto Ricans. This plan was very effective, and went on for years with no outcry. It's part of how femininists even got minority women involved in politics: they showed them the memos and their own medical charts- they didn't know they had been spayed. You don't think it won't be used to 'accidentally' kill children?

Blogger Aurelius Gomez January 30, 2019 10:19 PM  

This filth loves nothing more than killing the helpless and the innocent. Makes these worthless POS feel like they have worth.

Blogger Aurelius Gomez January 30, 2019 10:21 PM  

Real American men 200 years ago would have taken care of this.

Blogger Aurelius Gomez January 30, 2019 10:24 PM  

And we wonder how women in power on the left will rule? Your life is meaningless.

Blogger Voracious Reader January 30, 2019 11:36 PM  

@129 "Heritage Virginians." I haven't heard that term before. My family has lived in the Shenandoah Valley and NoVa since the 1790s. I'll start using that phrase; thanks for posting it.

We have lost control of our state, just like you wrote. It's amazing how fast it happened over the last 15 years. Once we were reliably Republican; now we can barely elect enough Republicans to keep the General Assembly.

I'm open for any radical ideas on how to kick these carpetbaggers and their loathsome ideas out of my state.

Blogger Amethyst Dominica January 30, 2019 11:47 PM  

Funny. The same atheists who are gleefully rubbing their hands over this decision are the same ones who chastise God for allowing natural disasters and diseases to kill infants. Whenever you see a YouTube video dealing with a medical tragedy, you'll invariably see plenty of "I find your invisible sky wizard cruel for allowing this horrible disease to strike innocent children" comments in the Comment Section.

Which is it, Athiestards? Is it wrong to kill a baby or isn't it?

Blogger Dire Badger January 31, 2019 12:11 AM  

You know, decades ago there was a movie that came out that I love... "beetlejuice". I never really understood what Alec Baldwin's character was saying when he and his wife were exchanging 'house presents', he gave her paper and she gave him something he called "Manchurian Tonguewell, enough to finish the table and a cabinet. I thought it was some kind of diorama glue or something, but every time I re-watched the movie, I was curious as to what a 'Tonguewell' was, and thought of medieval torture devices.

A couple of years later I was refinishing a fine wooden end table, and was learning as I went along, and learned about 'tongue oil', which is used to bring out the grain and protect wood without leaving a thick coating of shellac.

The next time I watched the movie, the words he said literally changed, and became 'Tongue Oil'. It was a bit of a shocker watching a scene I had seen dozens of times literally change in front of my eyes just because I had a tiny bit of knowledge.


The Point being, I wonder if there is some way to impart... Not the red pill, but some tiny little grain of knowledge that will break the weird veil of apparently complete lack of understanding of the basic moral value of innocent lives. Some sort of 'tongue oil' moment when they might finally see the argument with a grain of reality that changes their perception completely.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 31, 2019 12:24 AM  

Dire Badger, it's tung oil.

Blogger Rhys January 31, 2019 12:35 AM  

I don't think so because I don't believe most pro-choice people are there because of cognitive error. The main reason people seem to support it is so they can kill their own babies if it becomes inconvenient. So the kry would have to be found in convincing them that they can't just do whatever the hell they want.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira January 31, 2019 1:30 AM  

Let the Vespers begin.

Blogger Damaris Tighe January 31, 2019 3:42 AM  

"kept comfortable" ?

I think this and Euthanasia-on-demand as in the Netherlands indicates we are now thoroughly post-christian.

Anonymous Anonymous January 31, 2019 6:21 AM  

Dire Badger,

It’s been said here often, some people cannot be taught.

Even if you threaten their lives they won’t see the contradiction between pleading their innocence and being pro baby murder.

The only lasting solution is to carry out the threat.

Blogger Duke Norfolk January 31, 2019 7:08 AM  

@133 Truly ant people. I'm afraid it's true.

Blogger The Virginian January 31, 2019 8:38 AM  

I like the way you think, Blaidd.

Who says we couldn't do both? Can't ever be too careful.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown January 31, 2019 8:44 AM  

@21
"I wonder how much better Ohio would be if the invasion from rural Kentucky and WVa had not occured."

I can't swing a dead cat in the streets of Columbus without hitting a Somali and you're lamenting the presence of West Virginians.

Have you ever considered writing for The National Review?

Blogger The Virginian January 31, 2019 8:45 AM  

You are absolutely correct about the influence of fed and state money on Charlottesville via UVA.

As it is currently being run, UVA would go bankrupt in less than a year without all that taxpayer money flowing in. Well, the health system side would, anyways. Don't know about the academic side, but I suspect they're in the same boat.

I would love to see Charlottesville go back to the way it used to be, once upon a time. Right now it's nothing more than a Little California tumor infesting the red core of the state.

Blogger Ned January 31, 2019 9:28 AM  

They'll do the homeless next.

Blogger Unknown January 31, 2019 10:01 AM  

They are killing their own black constituency. This is what always puzzled me about the left, they are clearing out the ghettos and keeping the African population at 13% nationwide. Imagine the Country without abortion in the major cities. Goznell was single handedly culling the herd in a 5 mile radius in Philly years ago before the horrid conditions were discovered.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 31, 2019 10:19 AM  

Virginia, Northern Occupied Territory.

I guess Virginia just joined New York in the "Not America" coalition.

Blogger Dire Badger January 31, 2019 10:46 AM  

The problem is, it's getting too danged hard to assassinate them. Local leaders were much more responsive to their constituents when they could be killed.

Each governor, Mayor, Senator, and representative should be forced to take an hour-long walk without bulletproof glass through the area that they represent each day.

Northam would not survive the experience. I doubt that Chuck or Nancy would either, and It would not be long before Romney also saw the light.

Blogger Dire Badger January 31, 2019 11:04 AM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Dire Badger, it's tung oil.

Which is why you do not post at 2 am, after not sleeping for 48 hours, and buzzing hard.

I sometimes wish I was a mean drunk.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 31, 2019 11:12 AM  

"I don't know what form God's vengeance on these worshipers of Moloch will take"

Future fertility is a better reason than hedonism. As evil as Moloch is, we left him in the dust long, long ago.

"That was the Hippocratic Oath. It was quietly replaced years ago by the Oath of Maimonides."

Hell, the actual Hippocratic oath forbid all the means at that time of causing abortions.

"There's lots of talk about the infiltration of big tech, media, banking, etc., but I would argue the medical system is significantly more destructie and hateful towards the American people than any of the aforementioned groups."

Banking bought out, took over, and skinsuited our medical sector during or shortly after WWI.

"I suspect that the abortion issue is really about power. If they can force you to tolerate baby-killing, they can force you to do anything; so it makes a lousy goal to shoot for from the get-go, but a fantastic yardstick of just how much dictatorial power you have."

Of course it is. We've been saying it all along. First the babies, then the cripples, then the elders, and finally anyone inconvenient at all. This path is inevitable for as long as it can be sustained.

Blogger The Only Cigar in the Box January 31, 2019 11:29 AM  

Liberals should change their battle cry to "Kill the babies, save the puppies and the kitties!"

I swear, every Liberal I know loves abortion, but the idea of a cat or dog being mistreated in any way gets them fuming. Most of them are childless. Some really weird transference going on there...

Blogger Mr Darcy January 31, 2019 1:14 PM  

The governor says that men should not be interfering in the decision to kill children; should not be "telling women what to do." Then insists that the mother of the intended sacrifice consult with physicians to make the "decision." Presumably phemale physicians. How 'bout dat!

Blogger Mr Darcy January 31, 2019 1:20 PM  

"I don't know what form God's vengeance on these worshipers of Moloch will take"

Behold them! What they *are* is their punishment. For now, at least.

Anyway, it's al "for the children."

Right?

Blogger eclecticme January 31, 2019 2:17 PM  

Long ago Ann Coulter said liberalism is a religion and abortion is its sacrament.
I watched "3801 Lancaster: American Tragedy" on Netflix, a documentary about Gosnell. I did not follow the story so I learned a lot. The state of PA had shut down inspection of abortion facilities and resisted attempts to investigate him for political reasons because it was about abortion. His facility was about as clean as a crack house with similar staffing. It is too ghoulish to describe here. Look it up.

The Gosnell movie comes out on DVD Feb. 5. On streaming now I believe.

Blogger Avalanche January 31, 2019 3:16 PM  

@51 "introducing a bill that only banned abortion for white women."

Sorry but that's a law I CAN get behind!!

And as long as the SJWs and non-Whites want 'free stuff' -- let's give free abortions to all NON-Whites! Roll-up, roll-up for the magical mystery tour!

Blogger Avalanche January 31, 2019 3:31 PM  

@111 "So if the mom is having mental health issues after buyer's regret from being a mother, just cave in that little skull. no harm, no foul."

Don't forget WHITE infants are a premium on the adoption market!! Any woman wanting to dump an infant CAN do so, and some actual PARENTS will happily take the wee thang and raise it! Hell, if y'all want to forestall the murder of white infants at (just after) birth: -- fund an outfit that 'buys' the infants and finds them home. Hell, no-kill shelters do it for puppies and kittens!

You'd need a helluva lawsuit to restrict it to only white infants -- but let those who will take care of their own!

Negro nits? Not so much. No lice want to add to their broods, so there's very little call for them.

Blogger James Dixon January 31, 2019 4:29 PM  

> The thing is, we have lost control of our state.

Secede and join the rightful government of Virginia instead. :) Just make sure to leave Northern Virginia, Norfolk, and Richmond behind.

Blogger Cecil Henry January 31, 2019 4:41 PM  

The slippery slope:

Don't make me abort you:

https://gab.com/media/image/bq-5c536a8450206.jpeg

Blogger SirHamster January 31, 2019 4:56 PM  

Avalanche wrote:Sorry but that's a law I CAN get behind!!

Yeah, you've still got a ways to go on the whole being a Christian thing.

Murder does not become okay if you imagine the long time results will be useful.

Someone else will decide that all white women should be forced to abort - and your support for this is support for that.

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Blogger eclecticme January 31, 2019 5:46 PM  

@161. eclecticme January 31, 2019 2:17 PM

I watched "3801 Lancaster: American Tragedy" on Netflix, a documentary about Gosnell.

Oops. I meant I watched it on Amazon Prime.

Blogger Avalanche January 31, 2019 6:45 PM  

@166 "Yeah, you've still got a ways to go on the whole being a Christian thing.
Murder does not become okay if you imagine the long time results will be useful. "

God said: 1 Samuel 15:3. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy [a] everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " and Hosea 13:16 They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open." Psalms 137:9 he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

"Murder" (apparently) does become okay if it is the killing of the enemy of God? Of God's people? Of Christians generally? Where’s the line?

Vox says, and I follow, that if you recognize tangible evil is in this world (and I most certainly do) ... then Jesus Christ and Christianity is the ONLY preventive and cure. Christianity (not Churchianity) is the only religion that actively, consciously, and intentionally fights evil. The other religions don't. (My impression: Buddhists turn their backs; islamics seem to revel in it, jews accept and use it again Christians and deny it's evil at all.)

Abortion is and always will be a fraught topic. As, often, will be war and murder.

However, IF:
1. war against one's enemies is not merely acceptable, but desirable (man, woman, and babe in arms); and
2. the 'murder' of traitors (which is merely war on internal enemies) is reasonable and appropriate for their treason; and
3. the death penalty for vicious criminals (esp.? vicious invaders) is legit; and it IS a punishment throughout the Bible for various crimes; and therefore it must be acceptable at some times/place/reasons.
4. GOD approved of all of these

THEN:
Should it not be the case that war against / killing and murdering and the death penalty for the OFFSPRING of active internal enemies is the correct step? God did NOT say, kill the men and women and take the children and raise them as your own... oh and you can keep the oxen and asses; and skip the salt, too... (I think I vaguely remember He did sometimes / against some enemies -- and said 'you' could keep the young girls (as slaves/concubines) -- I may be misremembering...)

The example I use (because I'm angry and mean) is that when your child has a lice infestation, you do NOT spend an hour a night combing out the adult nits and yet leave the eggs behind to hatch. When your house has a mouse or rat infestation, you don't trap and kill the adults, but leave the young in the nests to grow up and continue living in your house, spreading disease, and biting your children -- you KILL THEM ALL!

So, yes, I do have a long way to go; but as Vox said on evolution the other night: he's not doing the Intelligent Designer thing; he's applying logic and science. I must apply logic because I don't have the faith required to ... you know ... reject on faith what seems so clear to me. Do NOT interrupt your enemy when she is making a mistake. The however-many-thousand negro criminals who have NOT been born are a GIFT to my people, my nation. Merging the destruction / prevention of those 'nits' in with the loss of the young of OUR nation does a disservice to those young of our nation who have been born.

It may be that if our people did not have to carry the financial and violent burden of those not-us who are swamping our nation, there would not be such a call to abort even the young of OUR nation. But I cannot 'mistake' the prevention of more destructive vermin as an evil for our people, our nation. Is it Christian to damage the future of our nation on behalf of vermin?

Blogger SirHamster January 31, 2019 7:01 PM  

Avalanche wrote:"Murder" (apparently) does become okay if it is the killing of the enemy of God? Of God's people? Of Christians generally? Where’s the line?

Christianity isn't a white religion warring against non-whites. Category error.

If you were an ex-slave nation led by a prophet destroying wicked Canaanite peoples in your Promised Land, you'd have a point. Bearing in mind that the Canaanite people were marked for destruction by God for practicing an evil religion of child sacrifice. The Israelite people who replaced them were in turn scattered and destroyed for copying the same evil.

I guarantee you there is no future for a white race that embraces the abomination of abortion in any way, shape, or form. Sin is rejected because it kills you, the sinner. There is no useful sin to keep around. Sin is cancer.


I must apply logic because I don't have the faith required to ... you know ... reject on faith what seems so clear to me.

"seems"

Your perception is faulty. You needed your husband to redirect your earlier wrong ideas, you needed Vox to redirect you again, and this is another area you must re-evaluate.

Christianity is TRUE, and the Christian perspective does not treat any category of human beings as lice. Dogs, sheep, goats, wolves, yes. Lice, no.

Are there enemies who must be killed with blade and bullet? There are. But there is no Christian enemy fought with abortion. Instead, abortion makes you an enemy of God, the giver of life.

Choose your enemies carefully.

Blogger Dirk Manly February 01, 2019 12:50 AM  

Where we are failing is not so much in preventing satanic people from doing satanic things to their own offspring. That is merely a symptom.

Our failing is in not bringing those people to Christianity, such that they believe those satanic acts to be anything other than both immoral and disgusting.

Blogger Dirk Manly February 01, 2019 12:55 AM  

@12
"Depending on the amount of time allowed after exit, I could support post-birth abortion for certain cases."

Dare I say it?

Oh, what the hell.
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Baby boomers.

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Blogger Dirk Manly February 01, 2019 12:56 AM  

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Blogger inthebriarpatch February 01, 2019 1:19 AM  

I'm ready for us to push it ourselves.

Blogger inthebriarpatch February 01, 2019 1:24 AM  

Under relative morality, anything is moral as long as a law can be passed or 51% of Supreme Court justices agree.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 01, 2019 8:54 AM  

Unknown wrote:They are killing their own black constituency. This is what always puzzled me about the left, they are clearing out the ghettos and keeping the African population at 13% nationwide.

The Left want their constituency small, Brown and cheerful, not large, Black and surly.

Nobody likes Africans.

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