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Saturday, February 16, 2019

Cognitive catastrophe

A new book confirms and explains the cognitive collapse of the West:
Today we can confirm that hereditary intelligence has been declining. Dutton and Woodley summarize the evidence, which includes deterioration in simple reaction times, color discrimination, the use of “difficult” words, working memory, special perception, child developmental schedules and—most critically—frequency of macro-innovations. In 2017, an Icelandic study found the first direct genetic evidence that a set of alleles predictive of g has been declining in frequency in that country’s population. More such studies can be expected in the years ahead.

According to a 2015 meta-analysis of studies conducted since 1927, IQ in the USA and the UK appears to be declining at a rate of 0.39 points per decade. Declines are also reported in Russia and a number of non-Western countries.

The authors emphasize five reasons (besides improved public health) why this is happening: 1) naturally gifted people have a tendency to trade mating and parenting opportunities for the opportunity to develop their abilities, e. g., through higher education; 2) being forward-thinking, such people are likelier to use contraception; 3) the modern welfare state taxes the more successful in order to support single mothers, who can often increase their benefits by having more children; 4) the modern movement for sexual “equality” has encouraged the brightest women to pursue careers and postpone marriage, often until it is too late; 5) finally, and most unforgivably, Western elites are now deliberately sponsoring the colonization of our nations by vast numbers of low-IQ persons from Africa, Asia and Latin America.

Declining general intelligence has been masked during the Twentieth Century by the so-called Flynn effect, an improvement in specialized mental skills independent of g. This may be one factor which made possible the continued technological progress of the twentieth century. But there is good evidence that the Flynn effect has now done about all it can do, and lower genotypic intelligence will increasingly make itself felt.
I calculated this several years ago in Cuckservative. The affects of our cognitively-challenged societies are already beginning to make themselves felt. The Age of Progress is over.

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Blogger allyn71 February 16, 2019 8:52 PM  

Idiocracy was supposed to be satire, not a documentary

Blogger Curlytop February 16, 2019 9:07 PM  

For those in private ed, including home educating, the drop off has been dramatic in the past 3yrs. I'm referring to middle-upper middle class homogeneous socio-economic groups.
It's widely known in education circles that by 2025, 50% of ALL classrooms will be LD.
Think about how that affects both private sector and military advancements...or lack of.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 16, 2019 9:22 PM  

Read the letters of the Founding Fathers, or The Federalist Papers. How many college "educated" people today can understand them? The decline has been going on for quite a while.

Blogger maniacprovost February 16, 2019 9:23 PM  

We could possibly reverse the trend. Obviously a collapse / die off is the most likely outcome.

A mass movement won't solve the issue because the masses are not intelligent enough to understand the issue, and they are getting dumber.

A political solution is unlikely, because it would require the current elites or the coup replacing them to want to solve the problem.

Some kind of disruptive technology or business model is the best bet. Perhaps nanny bots for the upper middle class. Or a trend toward telecommuting that will allow midwit women to produce more offspring, while simultaneously allowing the lower classes to diabetes themselves to death.

Blogger dienw February 16, 2019 9:34 PM  

I think it was Vox who pointed out a few years ago that the modern female is turned off by overly intelligent men.

The modern female is unwilling to participate in the risk of failure gifted men must take; she is also unwilling to be the supportive homemaker that is needed: if a gifted man has to be concerned about doing the house chores rather than concentrating on his work, then he might as well be single.

I have a friend who has invented and developed an advanced laser; he has endured poverty for over twenty years in order to make his risk succeed; just recently he has begun to see reality of millions in investment coming his way. He is a rock musician as well; so women to flock around him; but he is now in his mid to late forties; I doubt he will get married at this point unless the PTB demand he take a wife who will be his watcher/controller.

Blogger Republican Mother February 16, 2019 9:36 PM  

Agreed, although many of the LD labels are BS. When I started homeschooling, there were still eccentric and interesting people involved. Now there's been a real normie invasion. Instead of using the homeschool time to do deep dive learning and discover talents, they just set up these "school LARPS" known as homeschool tutorials where they do a half-assed version of school. It's beyond pathetic.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 16, 2019 9:37 PM  

Britain's society was enthusiastically Mathusian for centuries. If you couldn't make yourself useful to someone, you can probably starved, probably before you reproduced. I'm sure that was eugenic as could be, and ensured plenty of bright enough, hungry enough folks to make the industrial revolution work.

Anonymous Anonymous February 16, 2019 9:45 PM  

The under 1 demographics for the US, while dismal and indicating America is a corpse, still show that there is likely to a be a large white minority for another 50+ years. Sadly, this is probably enough to keep the lights on for decades to come. It will take more than low IQ to bring down the beast. Brazilification continues.

Blogger KJE February 16, 2019 9:49 PM  

The Fate of Empires - Sir Edward Gibb

TLDR; last page.

Blogger Unknownsailor February 16, 2019 9:51 PM  

@6

Unless that white minority consciously withdraws from keeping those lights on. Goes Galt, in other words.
Without whitey to keep things running, the US devolves to Africa within one generation.
--Unknownsailor--

Blogger Unknownsailor February 16, 2019 9:52 PM  

Sorry, that was supposed to be at 8.
--Unknownsailor--

Blogger Dave February 16, 2019 10:07 PM  

5) finally, and most unforgivably, Western elites are now deliberately sponsoring the colonization of our nations by vast numbers of low-IQ persons from Africa, Asia and Latin America.

How is this book still published in the UK?

Blogger Ransom Smith February 16, 2019 10:08 PM  

How many college "educated" people today can understand them? The decline has been going on for quite a while.
Even more than that, how many people will with a totally straight face assure you that "Separation of church and state" is in the Constitution?

Blogger sammibandit February 16, 2019 10:17 PM  

So there's some takeaways that make for an optimistic future:

1. Stress creates baby booms
2. Religion is 40% heretible
3. Religion is correlated with ethnocentrism
4. Ethnocentrism fosters religiosity
5. Religion correlates with successful conflict resolution in similar groups
6. Keeping up with the Joneses dampens religiosity

Blogger Lazarus February 16, 2019 10:18 PM  

Revenge of the Morons

Blogger Valley Forge Patriot February 16, 2019 10:21 PM  

@10
Given the rapid decline in general intelligence and social behavior, we better start shutting down and defueling our nuclear reactors today. Can you imaging the devastation a dindu could cause poking around an abandoned nuke power plant? Then again, could be a good thing in the long run....

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 16, 2019 10:25 PM  

@13, those same people will tell you that the planks of the Communist Manifesto are constitutional principles.

Blogger wahr01 February 16, 2019 10:47 PM  

This should be self-correcting.
Once there is too high a ratio of morons for the productive to keep afloat, the system will collapse and the morons will die off.

This was the "history" referenced in Starship Troopers.

"Are you doing your part?"

Blogger wahr01 February 16, 2019 10:58 PM  

Has anyone done an archaeological study on this?
Do we have enough info on the alleles responsible to go sampling remains going back a few centuries?

I suspect it will trace back to the late industrial revolution when personal responsibility gave way to central authorities.

The most significant demarcation for me is the shift from armed citizens enforcing "hue and cry" protocols to disarmed citizens appealing to professional police.

This was arguably the inflection point at which the west became a giant daycare center and selective pressure for the capacity to function as an adult disappeared for the majority.

Blogger Unknown February 16, 2019 11:05 PM  

@5 your friend in his late forties, if he does have children, will be using his old, dried up sperm to make them. Rampant autism is a price we're paying for female emancipation.


Something like 60% of 18-24 year olds now attend college (for females the rate is higher). The tertiary education system is a massive disincentive for family formation particularly for those with mid range IQs who are far more likely to have earned a vocationally useless degrees while taking on tens of thousands in debt. Combine this with our debt based money system requiring ever larger amounts of asset price inflation, making starter homes unaffordable, and mass immigration suppressing wage growth and we have perfect conditions for ever lower birth rates. It's unsustainable economically but the NY Jew bankers and the Marxist college administrators could give a fuck about that.

The only solution to this is for the entire system to collapse, which it will. I don't see the west experiencing a slow decline into destitution, Brazil is not our future. There is too much debt and the invasion of foreigners of too big a scale to allow for that. When the wars are over we'll either be living in smaller ethno states ruled by strongmen where anti natalist cultural practices are outlawed or in a larger left run prison state, where anyone carrying a book or wearing glasses is carted off to the nearest death camp.

Blogger sammibandit February 16, 2019 11:08 PM  

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Blogger Johnny February 16, 2019 11:18 PM  

Tribal societies are almost always organized by family, clan, and tribe, with the greatest loyalty to those who are genetically closest to the individual. With civilization that pattern tends to break down. That onto itself may be dysgenic in that the benefits that arise to the successful individuals are no longer shared with those close the them.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia February 16, 2019 11:26 PM  

Hey!!

We’re evolving!!

Into a less intelligent species.

But then again I am older Boomer, and my IQ will always be higher than you millennials and X-ers.

Oh well too bad for you.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 16, 2019 11:35 PM  

@23, if you were actually smarter, you would not think enstupidating your descendants was something to be proud of.

Blogger Johnny February 16, 2019 11:48 PM  

Given current financial stuff, we could easily suffer from a serious economic decline. And given our current political climate our short term response to it is apt be very dysfunctional. I would not be surprised to see a big body count. And after that, even if things straighten out, the left over animosity would make it impossible to put things back together the way they were. And I doubt the chaos would favor the clever. Already being at a lower level, the hicks in the stick would probably do better than most any urban group.

Anonymous Anonymous February 16, 2019 11:52 PM  

@10 Of course, the natives always have the option of retaking control. It becomes less likely as they become dumber, more saturated with soy and Marxist indoctrination and more totally controlled by a totalitarian state.
I'm more optimistic of the US being destroyed through involuntary forces than any efforts of the natives - bankruptcy, defeat by a foreign military, our third world government employing violence. A lower IQ can bring about one or more of these events but I don't think by itself it can destroy the US quickly enough to be of much benefit to the natives or the rest of the world.

Blogger Son of Blob February 16, 2019 11:58 PM  

But what about all the progress? There are 3 female coaches in AAF!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 17, 2019 12:12 AM  

@26, there are a whole lot of clever hicks in these sticks. Nobody's going to miss the urbs.

Blogger Alexander February 17, 2019 12:15 AM  

2) being forward-thinking, such people are likelier to use contraception...

Not forward-thinking enough. What does it profit a man if he gains his doctorate and loses his own birthright?

Blogger IreneAthena February 17, 2019 12:28 AM  

There's a movement in the smart, "progressive," "evolving" churches to replace the word "Blood" in hymns with the word "Love." So if you want to find out what can wash away your sin, what can make you whole again, you're going to have to sing with the backwards Baptists, a lot of them Black Baptists. "There's something y'all don't know. Though our IQ is LOW-OW, We could have told you so: Nothing but the Blood of Jesus."

Wonder-working Power in the simple will confound the wise?

Blogger Matamoros February 17, 2019 12:55 AM  

@9 "the fate of empires"

Looked on archive.org and found a book published 1918 entitled "the fate of empires" by Arthur John Hubbard.

The last chapter is entitled The Indispensible Basis of a Stable Civilization. The last page states:

"Nevertheless it has become evident that a Religion that makes all conduct of cosmocentric significance is the one thing indispensable, and that mankind has to look, in the first place, not to the statesman or the politician, not even to the man of science, but to the theologian; neither to Law, nor to Medicine, but to Divinity. For if, upon the one hand, the cosmocentric significance of all conduct cannot be verified, then a civilisation that is both true and stable cannot be realised. Upon the other hand, if Reason gives us the assurance of the cosmocentric significance of all conduct, both social and racial, as a matter of fact, then Reason is not, indeed, destroyed, but is overcome by obedience : a lifelong self-sacrifice becomes compatible with it, and interest is trans- muted into duty. Then, and then only, is it given to us to build up a civilisation that, marred neither by the racial death of Rome, nor the social death-in-life of China, will lead us to limitless achievement.

Yet, even then, a paradox remains.

In this, the method of Religious Motive, that which is temporal is never an end in itself, but becomes only the means of expressing the cosmo- centric purpose of our lives.
Thus a true and stable civilisation can never be more than a by- product of Religion. It is to be attained by those alone of whom it is not sought ; and we see that, in the long run, the world belongs to the un- worldly ; that in the end, empire is to those to whom empire is nothing ; and we remember, with a sense of awe, the most astonishing of the Beati- tudes : Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth."

Blogger Matamoros February 17, 2019 1:02 AM  

@20 "your friend in his late forties, if he does have children, will be using his old, dried up sperm to make them. Rampant autism is a price we're paying for female emancipation."

Hah. Men are made to be potent until death. There are no "old dried up sperm", only old dried up eggs.

As young men can no longer afford or want wives, traditional girls are going to gravitate toward these older men to produce families.

The men, being traditional will begin the rebirth of our people by teaching the old verities of duty, honor and faith.

Blogger pyrrhus February 17, 2019 1:08 AM  

According to my calculations from 60 years of SAT scores in the US, the problem is even greater than 1 IQ point per generation. And there has never been a Flynn effect with respect to SAT scores, they have been declining since the 1960s...

Blogger CM February 17, 2019 1:24 AM  

being forward-thinking, such people are likelier to use contraception;

I question this "forward thinking".

Truly intelligent women maintain a healthy reproductive system by avoiding contraceptives, avoid sex they aren't ready for the consequences of, and marry younger than 28 because they don't want to parent babies in their 40s.

@20 "your friend in his late forties, if he does have children, will be using his old, dried up sperm to make them. Rampant autism is a price we're paying for female emancipation."

Hah. Men are made to be potent until death. There are no "old dried up sperm", only old dried up eggs.


Yes. Sperm is never more than a few days old. Short shelf life.

Women don't produce eggs after a certain stage of prenatal development. They finish maturing approx. 11-14 years after development. They slowly deteriorate from there to menopause. Towards the end of shelf life, its purging time and a perimenopausal woman is more likely to have twins or more.

I really want to know if contraception stops that release of eggs, causing old eggs to remain in the basket past expiration resulting in increased risk of disability.

Blogger Johnny February 17, 2019 1:27 AM  

Mag Stuart wrote:A lower IQ can bring about one or more of these events but I don't think by itself it can destroy the US quickly enough to be of much benefit to the natives or the rest of the world.

I find myself wondering who the "natives" are and how they would benefit? In terms of global power, if we decline enough, who would be better off and how?

Blogger My 1 millionth internet profile February 17, 2019 1:30 AM  

@10 - It doesn't even have to be conscious. Even now, many important systems need to be literally foolproof to avoid serious problems. Even white people aren't that smart.

Blogger Johnny February 17, 2019 2:27 AM  

>>So why do governments and the media keep pushing the panic button? Why are they so obsessed with reaching 99.9%?

Could be they have a reason, or maybe it is just a fad thing. This stuff comes and goes.

Way back when they were worried about running out of trees and they had Arbor Day. What ever happened to Arbor Day? And they didn't want farmers cutting down trees in fence rows because of the Dust Bowl or something. I think they have changed their mind about that. Invasive weeds come and go as a cause also. I haven't heard a lot about invasive species lately.

Here in Wisconsin they have an endangered in the state law. They would go out and find a weed in some developers lot, declare it endangered in the state and shut down a building project. The short term solution was for real estate developers to keep their vacant lots tilled so the whole thing was nothing but dirt. Why were they doing that? Saving the planet? Power hungry? Colossal pricks?

Blogger Servant of the Chief February 17, 2019 2:49 AM  

Its actually amazing how much of this could be avoided by just banning contraception and encouraging women out of the workplace and into homes. It would all but guarantee smart men would have children and smart women would have children regardless of who they married which means the worst that could have happened is the IQ baseline just wouldn't increase with nowhere to go but up.

Anonymous Anonymous February 17, 2019 3:27 AM  

“Why are they so obsessed with reaching 99.9%?”

Same reasons the EU want Brexit to be a catastrophe; they can’t afford to have a successful group of dissenters loose for the normies to observe.

Blogger Amethyst Dominica February 17, 2019 4:15 AM  

@9

The Fate of Empires was written by Sir John Glubb. You may be thinking of Edward Gibbons, another British historian that wrote about the fall of the Roman Empire.

You could try shoving women back into the kitchen, but a long as the nation is in a resource glut, then Progressivism will continue unabated. Resource gluts encourage promiscuous, atomizing behavior while at the same time discouraging parental (especially paternal) involvement in offspring upbringing, - it's Nature's way of keeping women pumping out as many children as possible while the period of abundance lasts. Eventually the birthrate gets so high that the environment can no longer sustain the population and it collapses. In the 20th Century however, humans got so clever that we decided to create chemical birth control so our women could screw unproductive (but sexy) men and NOT get drowned in an ocean of illegitimate children. The sex party could last for decades now, without the bill coming due. AIDs almost put a stop to the party at one point, but a massive political activism machine prompted the govt./medical community to search for a cure. (The cure wasn't found, but they found a way to keep Death at bay for 20 years, which is good enough as far as most r-selected gays were concerned.)


But with any party, the bill does eventually come due, in the form of below-replacement birth rates and the productive slacking off and refusing to fund the bread and circus machine in perpetuity. Once the resource level goes below a certain value, people start to revolt against progressivism and other pie in the sky forms of social engineering. However, as we've seen, resources have to get pretty low for this sort of revolt to occur. Nobody wants to rock the boat. Sure, Conservatives may be afraid of speaking out for fear of being called some form of "ist", and their jobs might be at risk from HR catladies, and every form of entertainment they enjoy might be crammed with behaviors and values which are detestable to them, but they're still living a lot better than most generations before them have lived. They don't want to put that at risk, just to engage in a bloody fight with a bunch of people who - at this stage - are only making them vaguely uncomfortable. And here's where society is at this very moment.


Now, if SJWs and the Stephen Colbert crowd were smart, they'd do one thing: back off taking over every form of entertainment liked by Conservatives. Let the Conservatives have their football, their vidya games, their Star Warses. Keep them distracted with entertainment that's in keeping with their tastes and values while they, the SJWs, infiltrate, take over the government and school system, and dilute the population with low IQ "neo-Americans". Leftists actually WERE doing this for decades, but after Obama was elected, they thought they had won the culture war and they spiked the ball, prematurely removing their masks so they could revel and act smug in their victory. Only they hadn't won. But Conservatives are now so conflict-averse that, if the Left wanted to, it could slip the mask back on, yell "We Were just kidding!" and reset the Culture Wars back to the mid-90's. A lot of the more "alt" Conservatives wouldn't buy it, but I'm guessing most of the normies would. They'd go "WHEW! Thank God I won't have to fight anyone!" and go back to watching Sportsball and Dr. Phil reruns.

But SJWs, being what they are now, would NEVER allow for the clock to be turned back. Doubling down may be the most irritating thing that SJWs do, but we should be thanking God for it. It may just be the thing that saves Western Civilization in the end.

Blogger Unknown February 17, 2019 4:53 AM  

@39 I can tell you why. Australia is accepting massive numbers of dot Indians as immigrants in a vane attempt to prop up the housing market. Australian house holds are the most leveraged in the world and absent a constant influx of new migrants to keep up demand, the bubble will burst. Now the good thing about sub continentals is they speak a form of English and they'll take any shit job offered. They also seem happy to take on mortgage debt to buy rabbit cages in the outer, outer suburbs of Melbourne and Sydney. The bad thing is they're riven with communicable diseases. As more and more measles, chicken pox and other more exotic virus and bacterial infections spread in the population the government can handily blame native anti vaxers for the outbreaks, which won't put a dampener on immigration.

Oh btw men over 40 are 6 times more likely to have defective autistic children than men in their twenties. Yes old geezers CAN have children doesn't mean they should. Human beings were designed to have children in their late teens and twenties.

Blogger Gettimothy February 17, 2019 4:54 AM  

"Declining general intelligence has been masked during the Twentieth Century by the so-called Flynn effect, an improvement in specialized mental skills independent of g. "

Well, well,well...

I will find a citation for this and when the bastards try to argue that the Flynn Effect demonstrates that g is not largely/entirely genetic, I will scream at their lame ass bait and switch and beat the living crap out of their argument.

I have stopped arguing several times when I had unknowingly adopted a false definition of the Flynn Effect.




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Blogger Nikephoros II Phokas February 17, 2019 5:16 AM  

"Britain's society was enthusiastically Mathusian for centuries. If you couldn't make yourself useful to someone, you can probably starved, probably before you reproduced. I'm sure that was eugenic as could be, and ensured plenty of bright enough, hungry enough folks to make the industrial revolution work."

The Malthusians are the ones pushing dysgenics.

The elites use both eugenics and dysgenics, as laid out clearly in A Brave New World, written by Royal Society stooge Huxley, who came from a family of eugenicists and Darwinists.

Modern dysgenics is by design, not by accident.

Blogger Door in the Hill February 17, 2019 5:58 AM  

@41 Resident Moron

"“Why are they so obsessed with reaching 99.9%?”

Same reasons the EU want Brexit to be a catastrophe; they can’t afford to have a successful group of dissenters loose for the normies to observe."


It's probably worse than that, considering the knowing malicious intent behind the vaccine makers. The intelligent people who avoid them are almost certain to be the exact people they most want to damage with the vaccines.

I think it was mentioned on the blog a while back, but Italy fired their vaccine board not too long ago, and the new board sent samples of at least one multi-vaccine to the lab. It was found to contain none of the supposed antigens. That alone is conclusive evidence that there is a serious problem in the whole business.

Blogger Brett baker February 17, 2019 6:00 AM  

Greater percentage of the population going to college. Throwing in more lower IQ people is going to lower the score.

Blogger John Best. February 17, 2019 6:46 AM  

I would add that the mass use of drugs is also a problem. I have a second cousin who can't talk at the age of three, I suspect it is because his father was a drug addict. Dumb people have child, then children will be dumb. My nephew seems smart and aware and able to learn. Hopefully he will be as smart as me or smarter, and I can help with that.

Blogger Roger Hill February 17, 2019 6:46 AM  

No one enjoys pain and suffering. But pain and suffering can be excellent teachers. The collapse caused by Western secularism will no doubt reduce people to more practical concerns. And so long as a certain percentage of higher cognitive ability survives, then perhaps an upward trend can be experienced.

It is a paradox that this downward cycle in intelligence can be traced to the activities of learned men in spectacles.

Blogger Gregory the Tall February 17, 2019 6:48 AM  

"Sticks and Stones Broke my Drones" those were the final words of the Last Silicone Valley Joystick Warrior. Engineering is applied science, some of the top Chinese politicians are engineers, so indoor plumbing will survive for a while, only not in the West.

Blogger Gregory the Tall February 17, 2019 6:49 AM  

I see intelligent design behind the IQ decline. Cui bono?

Blogger Damelon Brinn February 17, 2019 6:55 AM  

I question this "forward thinking".

It's relative. Smarter people are more likely to be forward-thinking enough to consider whether they want a kid coming nine months from now from this particular sexual encounter. But few 20-somethings of any IQ are forward-thinking enough to consider the risk of being childless and scrambling to start a family at 40-something.

The dumb guy thinks maybe a week ahead and the smart guy thinks a year ahead, which results in fewer kids for the smart guy. Neither one thinks a decade or two ahead, and society no longer provides the wisdom of his ancestors to do so for him. Society used to tell the young man or woman, "Look, these things may not seem important to you now, but they are, so get on it." Now it says the opposite.

Blogger The Cooler February 17, 2019 6:56 AM  

A challenge:

Take an IQ test, water fast for 5 days, then take the test again prior to breaking the fast.

The food supply in the West, in the United States in particular, is quite literally poisoned. This is not the whole problem but it's a sizable portion of it.

Blogger Xellos February 17, 2019 6:57 AM  

@9

>You could try shoving women back into the kitchen, but a long as the nation is in a resource glut, then Progressivism will continue unabated. Resource gluts encourage promiscuous, atomizing behavior while at the same time discouraging parental (especially paternal) involvement in offspring upbringing

Yes.

>it's Nature's way of keeping women pumping out as many children as possible while the period of abundance lasts. Eventually the birthrate gets so high that the environment can no longer sustain the population and it collapses.

No, the conclusion made from the above is exactly opposite. You even have to point out why it doesn't fit present observed reality immediately afterwards. Resource glut in an age of decay means people spend more resources on themselves, not on raising children. The collapse doesn't come from running out of resources or overbreeding, it comes from the loss of a sense of duty and being destroyed by those who haven't become as weak as you.

Blogger The Cooler February 17, 2019 7:04 AM  

@51 ...and if you're a guy, get before-and-after androgen panels.

Do it.

Blogger Damelon Brinn February 17, 2019 7:15 AM  

Its actually amazing how much of this could be avoided by just banning contraception and encouraging women out of the workplace and into homes.

No doubt, but the question is how to get there, short of major economic collapse. These days, even traditional, conservative fathers want their daughters to hold out for a husband who's already established enough to provide them with a safe, comfortable living. In the meantime, she's riding the carousel in college and workplace. So how do we convince girls they want to be "frontier wives" again, teaming up with a young man to support him and build a life *together*? There's no material incentive for the girl to take that risk when she can live just as comfortably on the income from a meaningless office job. And the kind of men who run things don't have an incentive to enforce traditional standards because the current system means there are a lot of loose young women competing for their consequence-free affections.

I don't see how we get it back without a religious revival and/or serious economic hardship, and the latter might have to drive the former.

Blogger Roman Daoist February 17, 2019 7:19 AM  

No one dies anymore! It's shocking if someone dies, especially a young child. I read somewhere that there was a time when parents didn't bother naming their kids until their first birthday - because of the child's likely death.

Now we've got those damn antibiotics. Getting handed out like candy. It's gonna be the death of us!

In the good ol' days, smart people had a higher propensity to be clean because they did less dirty work. So before germ theory, smart people just tended to get infected less. Now every monkey knows to wash at least once a day. The solution is obvious. - Ban soap!

You're welcome.

Blogger The Cooler February 17, 2019 7:21 AM  

@54 The best thing men can do is harden themselves physically, spiritually, morally, intellectually. Women will -- and do -- follow.

Any way you slice it, declines are on men.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 17, 2019 7:49 AM  

Too much soyboy pedestal polishing going on in what passes for society.

Blogger The Lab Manager February 17, 2019 8:22 AM  

So what is explanation of all these 'high IQ' types voting for leftist poophead like Ovomit and such? Why does no one have no concept of basic freedoms, private property, and such?

I wonder what the libertardians would say given they are also infected with the leftist mantra of 'everyone is equal'.

Blogger Nate February 17, 2019 8:44 AM  

Meh. Wax and wane. Trends change. And something like this can reverse itself in one generation. The best thing trump could do offer massive tax cuts to women who have multiple kids.

Blogger The Cooler February 17, 2019 8:44 AM  

So what is explanation of all these 'high IQ' types voting for leftist poophead like Ovomit and such?

You are assuming only the cognitively challenged would do so.

In the panoply of gods and monsters that combine to form Weltanschauung, intelligence is at best tertiary.

Blogger stevo February 17, 2019 9:04 AM  

I had my kids at 48 and 50
Not ideal but thankfully they're both brilliant. Never too late.

Blogger Johnny February 17, 2019 9:25 AM  

It is inherently dysfunctional to separate control and responsibility. That is what we have with children right not. The mother has control, she can pump the kid out. But society can easily pick up the cost of raising the kid. And with us humans reproduction is a long and costly endeavor.

I am not a big fan of the Catholic religion in general, but a long time ago they had it sorted out. The surplus population, so to speak, often got adsorbed into monasteries. Three squares a day and you could live your life out, but reproduction was rare so the whole thing was a biological dead end.

Blogger Johnny February 17, 2019 9:32 AM  

>>Oh btw men over 40 are 6 times more likely to have defective autistic children than men in their twenties. Yes old geezers CAN have children doesn't mean they should.

This tells us that reproduction at an early age is better than later, but otherwise is not useful information. One needs to know the frequency of autism to know if a higher likelihood is a problem. Is it one in a million, one in a thousand, one in a hundred? Magnitude makes a difference.

Blogger Uncle Maffoo February 17, 2019 9:46 AM  

@63

The issue of older men having autistic children is confounded by the fact that autistic men take a longer time to find mates. When/if they do marry and have kids, it's not with a 21 year old college cheerleader, it's with an older woman who's likely on the spectrum herself.

Blogger Zwiebel February 17, 2019 10:10 AM  

I don't actually think that's that hard. Most women I know, and knew when I was younger, don't really enjoy the "dick carousel". They're looking for a steady relationship, for "Prince charming".

Now tell them, look, men in their 20s are the likeliest to build something amazing, so support him, and your life AND the world will be a better place.

Of course, currently young women are very afflicted with the idea that they can do just as well, but if you replaced that narrative, women would follow pretty quickly.

It's all about what you put into the heads of the young!

Blogger stevo February 17, 2019 10:26 AM  

Until the 30's every Christian Church was against contraception

Blogger Nate February 17, 2019 11:01 AM  

That girl neurosurgeon would decide to have a couple kids if it meant damn near zero income tax for life.

Blogger Red Pill Angel February 17, 2019 11:38 AM  

Johnny said: One needs to know the frequency of autism to know if a higher likelihood is a problem. Is it one in a million, one in a thousand, one in a hundred? Magnitude makes a difference.

1 in 61 children are now diagnosed as autistic. Partly, at least, the autism epidemic is the result of allowing special education hacks to enlarge the definition of autism to include most behaviors of high IQ white kids (including later speech in boys). Add sitting in front of a screen all day, zero outdoor play with other kids, and voila! Autism strikes again. I'm not saying all of the autism epidemic is due to enlarged diagnostic parameters, but some of it is. Too many parents hand over their children to the system for endless diagnoses and drugging which they proudly discuss like medals.

Blogger sammibandit February 17, 2019 11:44 AM  

>That girl neurosurgeon would decide to have a couple kids if it meant damn near zero income tax for life.

That programme would also cause a delightful side effect in that teen girls predisposed to unhygenic behavior would be outcast. No incentive for hygienic teen girls to befriend thots if it means not getting to the gold.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 17, 2019 11:54 AM  

Nikephoros II Phokas wrote:The Malthusians are the ones pushing dysgenics.

The elites use both eugenics and dysgenics, as laid out clearly in A Brave New World, written by Royal Society stooge Huxley, who came from a family of eugenicists and Darwinists.


Nikephoros, I was pointing out that earlier British society bred for employability and cleverness at cadging a living. By the time Aldous Huxley came along, they were all Fabians.

Vessimede Barstool wrote:Oh btw men over 40 are 6 times more likely to have defective autistic children than men in their twenties. Yes old geezers CAN have children doesn't mean they should. Human beings were designed to have children in their late teens and twenties.

My great-great-grandfather had his final child at age 70 with his third wife, who was close to 50 years younger. Autism wasn't a thing 120 years ago.

Roman Daoist wrote:Now we've got those damn antibiotics. Getting handed out like candy. It's gonna be the death of us!

Antibiotics are becoming ineffective fast enough that we may live to see germs again get the upper hand. That will be the death of a great many.

The Cooler wrote:@54 The best thing men can do is harden themselves physically, spiritually, morally, intellectually. Women will -- and do -- follow.

Any way you slice it, declines are on men


Men build civilization, women destroy it. Men civilize women. Read Proverbs: the foolish woman tears down her house with her own hands.

Blogger kurt9 February 17, 2019 12:03 PM  

Curlytop wrote:For those in private ed, including home educating, the drop off has been dramatic in the past 3yrs. I'm referring to middle-upper middle class homogeneous socio-economic groups.

It's widely known in education circles that by 2025, 50% of ALL classrooms will be LD.


I had to look up what "LD" meant. Its what we used to call special ed. I heard about 8 years or so ago that it was already up to 25%. You say 50% by '25? Good Lord!

When you say the roll off of the last 3 years, is this in grade school? Jr high or high school? I assume you mean this will apply to all grade levels (K-12) by '25.

Blogger kurt9 February 17, 2019 12:05 PM  

Does anyone know what changes have been made to the childhood vaccine schedule since 1995? Say, during the '05-10 period?

Blogger CM February 17, 2019 12:28 PM  

The problem is banning established men from dating their daughters. Close in age is a modern invention and has probably had an effect.

Blogger Joe February 17, 2019 12:55 PM  

"Take an IQ test, water fast for 5 days, then take the test again prior to breaking the fast.

The food supply in the West, in the United States in particular, is quite literally poisoned. This is not the whole problem but it's a sizable portion of it."


So is the tap water.

Blogger justaguy February 17, 2019 1:19 PM  

I do not think that we have any meaningful idea about IQ in today's politically correct world. the elites have banned it.

The idea of IQ is so poison to the elites that control academia that there has no been any meaningful study of it in decades. Anyone who tries has to do so crosswise-- have an approved agenda and "fall into the subject" by mistake. Those who do, then avoid the topic because they want their career. Those not in academia do not have any way to study it. There is no longer any data out there. the left has been quite thorough in getting rid of anything that can point to IQ. SAT, ACT-- changed decades ago. As for IQ tests themselves-- I am not even sure if they are the same anymore compared to say the 1970s when people actually cared, but were fighting to silence those who pointed out the data.

Now we can find some indirect proxies for g, as the score of the IQ test was a proxy for g, but with academics feverishly trying to kill the idea-- what makes you think that the data is good?

We have to make very bad approximations and extrapolations to get data and then apply it somehow to people. Murray had a good appendix or two on the data in his 90's book but it is as if that book was the roadmap to getting rid of everything he a H used.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon February 17, 2019 1:33 PM  

@40

"The Fate of Empires was written by Sir John Glubb. You may be thinking of Edward Gibbons"

I just checked and there is a 'Fate of Empires" available on archive.org by Arthur Hubbard. There is also a Fate of Empires by John Glubb. They are different books.

Blogger DonReynolds February 17, 2019 1:47 PM  

"The authors emphasize five reasons (besides improved public health) why this is happening:"

The first four reasons are baloney, including the "improved public health". Improvements in public health do not select for intelligence. But the fifth reason makes declining intelligence a mathematical certainty, not an event.

By adding low IQ populations to a higher IQ populations, the mix is necessarily going to be a declining IQ population. This would be true, whether the populations are segregated or integrated. This would be true if the low IQ population were a select group or they selected themselves or they were selected by the country of origin. The outcome is the same.

My former boss told me, you cannot mix cow dung and vanilla ice cream in any proportion and end up with good tasting dung. I believe it.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia February 17, 2019 1:57 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:@23, if you were actually smarter, you would not think enstupidating your descendants was something to be proud of.

Who said I was proud? Anyway, both my kids are smarter than me.

Can't speak for all you guys.

Blogger sammibandit February 17, 2019 2:00 PM  

And why should you? It's not normal to care about people who aren't your kith and kin. Ever. We all care about family, friends, clan, tribe. Weirdos who eschewed those things care, though.

Blogger Mark Stoval February 17, 2019 2:35 PM  

The HBD researchers (human biodiversity) have found that ALL human traits are heritable. We already knew that IQ was overwhelmingly genetic.

Our problem is that the left-wing fools are all delusional. They don't want to believe that reality is not what they want it to be. They think they can wish a heaven on earth if only everyone just believes.

So, they will continue to invite low IQ violent thugs here hoping that the magic dirt of the US will somehow transform them into a saint. Witness NYC in 1960 vs. today. That is the future in a nutshell.

War is the only way to put a stop to this. I don't say that with any relish or delight. I am not looking forward to several hundred million dead worldwide, but a world war is coming.

Best read up on your William S. Lind.

Blogger stevo February 17, 2019 2:51 PM  

Really smart kids also end up in LD. Because teachers can't handle them

Blogger stevo February 17, 2019 2:56 PM  


Vessimede Barstool wrote:Oh btw men over 40 are 6 times more likely to have defective autistic children than men in their twenties. Yes old geezers CAN have children doesn't mean they should.
Six times more likely means nothing unless you know the actual rate for younger men. My guess is it is gonna still be a small number. Older men should not be scared of reproducing especially if they are smart and Nationalist.

Blogger Mark Stoval February 17, 2019 3:05 PM  

I will mention one thing we tend to forget about IQ. Low IQ is bad, but having a reasonably high IQ does not make one wise.

Many of the stupidest people I have worked with were midwits who were left-wingers and they are delusional. They are afflicted with magical thinking and can't see reality for what it is.

I also find that the left-winger is most often eaten up with ENVY which is the most deadly sin in my opinion. It is the sin that caused Satan's downfall.

Blogger Hammerli 280 February 17, 2019 3:08 PM  

@80: Oh, the magic dirt WILL turn the most evil criminal moron toward good. Just as soon as he's been buried under six feet of it.

Blogger Hammerli 280 February 17, 2019 3:11 PM  

I'll also point out that many of the smartest men will wind up spending their 20s getting an education and working on a career. Then they go looking for a wife...and find that the pickings are pretty thin by that point. Especially if they have a job in some dating desert with a shortage of eligible women to begin with.

Men will marry down only so far.

Blogger The Cooler February 17, 2019 3:21 PM  

@74 So is the tap water.

That's a good point, one I tend to forget since I'm on an artesian well. Ideally, the water fast should be performed with water from an untainted source.

However, it is not absolutely necessary in order for people, men in particular, to see how the fast will affect their IQ and androgen levels.

Blogger DonReynolds February 17, 2019 3:29 PM  

Hammerli280 wrote:I'll also point out that many of the smartest men will wind up spending their 20s getting an education and working on a career. Then they go looking for a wife...and find that the pickings are pretty thin by that point. Especially if they have a job in some dating desert with a shortage of eligible women to begin with.

Men will marry down only so far.


In the Irish tradition, a man was normally focused on establishing himself in the community....learn a craft and build a trade...before taking a wife. The groom may be early to late 30s typically and the bride often half his age. They would have a large family and she would be widowed at a young age. Thus, widow means a woman of property and due respect in Irish society.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke February 17, 2019 4:03 PM  

@83 I also find that the left-winger is most often eaten up with ENVY which is the most deadly sin in my opinion. It is the sin that caused Satan's downfall.

I thought Pride was the downfall of Satan?

Pretty sure I have much Envy. Maybe some pride as I consider Christianity, kind of a strange feeling. Although not Left wing. I equate vanity with envy, although there are many who equate it with pride. There seems to be much disagreement.

Blogger eclecticme February 17, 2019 4:04 PM  

I predicted long ago that infertile couples in China might opt for govt subsidized sperm/eggs/IVT from genius donors. It might be a very good investment for the govt and for the parents. I have no idea if this ever same about.

I did read that in recent years Chinese parents were eager to dabble in genetic eningeering to increase the IQ of offspring. Something about a math gene. I doubt the tech is there yet but the Chinese do not care about Western concerns and bans on such genetic engineering.

Someone speculated about hillbilly rednecks being able to produce genius children through genetic engineering. That woould upset the ruling class.

Blogger Uncle Maffoo February 17, 2019 4:24 PM  

@85

For many men, the pickings are anything BUT thin.

Blogger Hari Seldon February 17, 2019 4:42 PM  

This is an amazing book. For whoever is interested in the TLDR version, here's James Delingpole's interview with the two authors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z22eq8xqXME

Blogger Up from the pond February 18, 2019 1:25 AM  

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Blogger Up from the pond February 18, 2019 1:26 AM  

All we need is another trio of brave black women with slide-rulers, and we will go to the Moon again!

Blogger KG February 18, 2019 8:43 AM  

Reaction times and working memory are observable problems while I work with other millennials. It’s very isolating in the work environment to see the issues, then be required to explain them and the optional solutions three or four times before it clicks. The amount of reminder technology they need to remember to do simple tasks and complete basic processes is absurd.

Blogger woodenavaklu February 20, 2019 7:04 AM  

I first began speculating on the possibility of inter-generational fall in intelligence about thirty odd years ago when people at my church began justifying modern bible translations on the grounds that the King James Version of the bible was too hard to read.

If the KJV was written for the common man back in the days of King James and four hundred years later many people complain about how hard it is to read then I'm open to the idea that we are not as intelligent as the people of four hundred years ago and that our children's generation will be less intelligent than our own.

Blogger eclecticmn February 21, 2019 8:20 PM  

Chinese scientist doing genetic engineering for HIV may have been increasing intelligence.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6731297/Chinese-scientists-edited-genes-twin-girls-altered-BRAINS-experts-say.html

BTW Nicholas Wade (A Troublesome Inheritance) said that the genes involved in increasng cancer in Jews may also be responsible for increasing IQ.

I wonder is the Jews high neuroticism is related to high Nobel prize winning. Chinese score low and are not as creative in that way.

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