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Tuesday, March 12, 2019

A secret king in action

I've been asked on occasion what I mean by "Secret King wins again!" This example should help demonstrate what I'm talking about. It's in reference to a question about my recent Darkstream addressing Jordan Peterson's appearance at the Trilateral Commission:
Badbadnotgood Goodgodnotbad
Why didn't you use the video where someone questioned him about holodomor, a far better example to show his intentional blind spots.

Darkstream
Because the point is not to show his unwillingness to address a specific issue, but rather, his inability to intelligently answer a straightforward question even when he is willing to do so.

Badbadnotgood Goodgodnotbad
Darkstream ugh caught you out mr Vox.... Your main point of the video was how he intentionally avoids answering questions and reverts to rehearsed dialogue to divert away from the questions topic. Not that he is a useful idiot and doesn't have the ability to, as you specifically point out his subversive flip flopping of meanings and focusing on the notion of the state rather then the nation. The holodomor video Would have been a perfect example of addressing his true intentions of which you were trying to show with the first.
This is a perfect example of why everyone hates gammas, even other gammas. They can't ever accept an answer to a question, because they never ask an honest question. Every question is simply a trap designed to allow them to show everyone what a Smart Boy they are. If you ever want to know why I simply ignore many questions that are posed to me, well, now you know.

Notice that almost every other comment testifies to what an effective demonstration the video and the related commentary were. But that's not good enough for the gamma male, because his way is always the better way, especially when it obviously isn't. After all, the fact that he's now banned just proves how threatened I am by his obvious intellectual superiority, right? Secret King wins again!

On a more positive note, this comment definitely won the thread:
Q- Dr. Peterson, how will democracy survive?
A- THE INDIVIDUAL IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE COSMOS!
I'll admit it. I laughed.

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49 Comments:

Blogger veryfunnyminion March 12, 2019 1:12 PM  

Nice blog you have here, now here is my completely unsolicited advice on what you're doing wrong ....

Blogger Lushtree March 12, 2019 1:23 PM  

Remember if you ban him, you become just like the other 200 celebrities he has tried to help!

That is the problem with the world: nobody values the important input of nameless internet commenters with inflated opinions of themselves.

Blogger Xiety March 12, 2019 1:29 PM  

Your play-by-play critique of the JBP clip was effective. Judging from the chat, everyone was riveted. Well done, Vox.

Blogger Balam March 12, 2019 1:30 PM  

I suppose this is what the Bible meant when it said not to be a busybody and to take the plank out of one's own eye before trying to remove the specks in others.

In this case gammaboy was talking about actual blindspots whilst being totally unaware of his own blindness to the situation.

Blogger nidus of inflection March 12, 2019 1:33 PM  

Why didn't you use...a far better example to show his intentional blind spots.

Because the point is not to show his unwillingness to address a specific issue...

Would have been a perfect example of addressing his true intentions of which you were trying to show with the first.

Secret King knows what you're trying to say, even if you don't, and it happens to match His Majesty's interest.

Blogger Chad Thundercockovich March 12, 2019 1:39 PM  

Gammas make everyone else look impressive by comparison.

Blogger Lazarus March 12, 2019 1:46 PM  

The thing that struck me about the JP vid was how he used his hands. I found it a bit hypnotic.

Blogger Weak March 12, 2019 1:51 PM  

Lazarus, the hand motions are an intentional part of the performance. You are correct that it's intentionally hypnotic.

Blogger Daniel March 12, 2019 2:01 PM  

The Alpha doesn't ask questions, nor does he answer them.
The Beta asks honest questions of Alphas for guidance, of Deltas for information, and of Gammas to identify them.
The Delta asks honest questions of everyone for information.
The Gamma asks dishonest questions for the purpose of social maneuvering.
The Omega asks questions that no one will ever answer.

Blogger Grime Knight March 12, 2019 2:11 PM  

Peterson couching every other word or phrase with "let's say" got really annoying...unless you turn it into a drinking game. He always wants an out on everything so people can't pin him down.

ugh caught you out mr Vox

What is this, a 12-year old girl talking?

Blogger VD March 12, 2019 2:20 PM  

The Alpha doesn't ask questions, nor does he answer them.

The Alpha does both. He asks questions to hold others accountable and he answers questions to clarify his directions. I suspect one reason the Gamma asks the sort of questions the way he does is to try to hold others accountable to him although he is not in a position to do so. This may be why people instinctively bristle at his questions.

It's the Sigma who does neither, because he's outside the hierarchy.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener March 12, 2019 2:37 PM  

Lately I'm wondering how JP's handlers are going to gracefully remove him from the public sphere. An amazing number of people still take him seriously but he's quickly becoming an embarrassment to them.

Blogger ZhukovG March 12, 2019 2:38 PM  

Though I wonder if sometimes a Sigma just wishes people would stop asking questions and go find an Alpha to pester:).

Blogger haus frau March 12, 2019 2:40 PM  

" Your main point of the video was how he intentionally avoids answering questions and reverts to rehearsed dialogue to divert away from the questions topic. "

That I remember, Petersen didn't even try to answer the Holodmor question. He refused to try. That incident is a good example of his intellectual cowardice. The trilateral bafflegarble is far better at meeting the point Vox was making.

Blogger urthshu March 12, 2019 2:45 PM  

I can tell this stuff is important but I don't have any great handle on it. Is there anything geared towards raising children on this topic? Not in a game sense but more not growing up gamma, getting to alpha? Is it possible to teach or is it inbred? A site or reading maybe. Thanks

Blogger Mister Excitement March 12, 2019 2:52 PM  

It's the "yes, but actually" crowd. That stuff drives me completely insane.

As bad as they are normally, when they get in a position of authority and can boss other people around, they're totally abusive.

Gammas have flourished in modern America. A man doesn't have the legal right to defend his honor by punching somebody in the face. The Gammas and toxic people know this and use it to their advantage.

Blogger ZhukovG March 12, 2019 3:03 PM  

@urthshu: Christendom was built and will be preserved on the strong backs, courage and faithfulness of Deltas. So, don't worry if your son is not an Alpha; most aren't.

As for avoiding Gamma, keeping your sons out of public school would go a long way to avoiding that fate. Get them involved early in sports and be involved in it yourself. Be involved in your local church, but be mindful of what they are teaching. Help your sons find some hobby or activity that they can personally excel at.

Be mindful of yourself and set the example.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club March 12, 2019 3:06 PM  

Why didn't Secret King use the far better definition for 'intentional blind spots' of 'being a lying deceitful scumbag'? Hitting too close to home?

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 12, 2019 3:06 PM  

Are Elvis impersonators Gammas? Lambdas? The King himself an Alpha/Lambda?

King: Alpha (Ideally, and not a combo).
(Lord) Chancellors: Omega. Bismarck a combo, an Omega/Alpha (Sigma?).
Prime Minster: Gamma, usually. Tony Blair, gamma extraordinaire.

The Archetypal Bond Villain(The Real Secret King) an Omega/Gamma. Soros?

The Internet Secret King, princes of the universe, Gamma. "Here we are, born to be king..."

Blogger Primus Pilus March 12, 2019 3:06 PM  

Grime Knight wrote:Peterson couching every other word or phrase with "let's say" got really annoying...unless you turn it into a drinking game. He always wants an out on everything so people can't pin him down.

It's incredibly obnoxious, and he does it so much it's practically a verbal tic at this point. He does it 5 times just in the short excerpt Vox posted.

Blogger Lovekraft March 12, 2019 3:10 PM  

College admissions scandals are emerging. I am looking to see whether this is pure selfishness, or an attempt to get around affirmative action. My guess is their kids just weren't smart enough.

thebreaker.news/news/ex-ubc-governor-charged/

Blogger gnossoss March 12, 2019 3:11 PM  

@15

You can read the Graduating Gamma series on Vox's old blog Alpha Game for basic information about Gammas. I think that's the main concern.

I think it's best to focus on steering a boy away from Gamma. I would think a boy with decent parents probably won't go toward Omega, total social reject, but Gamma is a real possibility, especially if he's smart.

Otherwise, any of Delta, Beta and Alpha are good and have their own ups and downs. You can nudge him, certainly give him useful info about masculinity and how to deal with women that will give him a leg up, but I wouldn't push too hard to make him be one of these three categories. I doubt you can move a person very far from their natural category, no matter how hard you try, and being Alpha isn't flat-out better than Beta or Delta.

The main thing is to steer him away from dishonesty, as this forms the core of Gamma. Make him admit if he does wrong, be ruthless about lying, but make it clear that it isn't the end of the world if he messes up, either.

A friend described cornering his son and going through a cycle of "Did you do it?" "No." *punishment* "Did you do it?" "No." *punishment* etc. for hours before the boy finally owned up. Once that happened, he had to apologize, not in general, but for his specific infraction. Once that was done, he was told his punishment, and everything went back to normal.

It was revelatory for the boy -- he was wrong, he admitted it, and the world didn't end. It's not the end of the road, but it's a good step away from a Gamma mindset.

Others' experience may be different, but I thought that was a good approach.

Blogger GAHCindy March 12, 2019 3:18 PM  

All he had to do was say "hey, gosh, and I watched him say something about the holodomor that I think backs you up here." Gets to add his thoughts without bothering. But I guess bothering you was the point.

Blogger Northpal March 12, 2019 3:20 PM  

@Vox
In your analysis of historic trends. as JP's arch begins to flatten is it possible he could hit the big cable market as a spokesman hawking Nutrisystem?
Seems like a good fit.

Blogger Ron March 12, 2019 3:23 PM  

It would be funny if Vox had a special sound effect and graphic when he bans a gamma during the Darkstream. Wack-a-gamma

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club March 12, 2019 3:24 PM  

Money can't buy you love, but a million and a half can get your kid into Yale.

http://www.espn.co.uk/college-sports/story/_/id/26238811/feds-allege-coaches-bribed-school-admission

Blogger urthshu March 12, 2019 3:24 PM  

See I'm just an old guy, 53 this year son is 6. I'm his hero but old and fallible. It's cool, I'm honest with him. I hear about the schools but I figure it can be fixed. I'm out of touch with it all I admit. I did have the impression that being old and thus old school would help but it doesn't hurt to ask.

Anyway, won't push it anymore. The answers so far were helpful. Thanks.

Blogger Unknown March 12, 2019 3:37 PM  

I've just started reading your blog and learning about the socio sexual hierarchy has been eye opening.
If he(commentor) had just offered another example without saying his one was the better one....which is a gamma tell...especially when they are wrong as you have pointed out.
I thought something was off with that comment when I read it after the stream. Vox, you are a genius. This is going to be incredibly useful to me in all aspects of my life. Thank you.

Blogger Longtime Lurker March 12, 2019 3:41 PM  

Gamma rays. Gamma males.

I'm beginning to see the pattern.

Blogger Rex Leroy King March 12, 2019 4:13 PM  

His focus on the Holodomor means he's almost certainly Alt-Retard.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 12, 2019 4:27 PM  

urthshu wrote:See I'm just an old guy, 53 this year son is 6. I'm his hero but old and fallible. It's cool, I'm honest with him. I hear about the schools but I figure it can be fixed. I'm out of touch with it all I admit. I did have the impression that being old and thus old school would help but it doesn't hurt to ask.

Anyway, won't push it anymore. The answers so far were helpful. Thanks.


Don't get your hopes up for the schooling system being fixed, I looked at my grandfather's chemistry exercise book, it was basically at the standard of A-level instead of O-level or GCSE. Encourage reading even if they read at night time, don't go literally nuts if they do, it's a really important habit. They'll probably avoid Omega if they read enough personable, literature. I didn't read nearly enough or varied enough, I liked "Day of the Triffids" was later copied by "28 days Later" where a rage virus infects everyone. Then Audiobooks are really great later. If you have the Gold or Platinum membership with Audible you can buy additional credits 3 for £10. So that takes care of English. You could probably give them a book to learn from for drawing, maybe there's an art club near by or something similar. I haven't seen with as high quality or intelligence of Voxday and his company. Maybe there is better somewhere? FDR (Stefan Molyneux) isn't bad to listen to, so might want to stick around or lurk.

The schooling system is really fucked up in some areas, I remember having 35 or 45 minute lesson times (more like 20mins - 30min in practice) when I started secondary school (was later doubled to 70mins), then having to move around the school. Completely ridiculous, totally destroys attention spans. Oh And Aristotle is a really good scientist philosopher etc etc, Are you going to teach Aristotle? No.

Blogger Lance E March 12, 2019 4:34 PM  

Ron wrote:It would be funny if Vox had a special sound effect and graphic when he bans a gamma during the Darkstream. Wack-a-gamma

HULK SMASH

...you know, because... gamma radiation...

I'll show myself out.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener March 12, 2019 4:36 PM  

@urthshu

If your kid is in public school he is being inundated with lies faster than you can hope to correct them. That may be the only option for some people but it is really worth looking for alternatives if you can.

Blogger LP916 March 12, 2019 4:59 PM  

OT How is the family pet?

Praying always, This is Easter Time!

Good Lord What happened? I heard the most of this while cooking and cleaning, I will try to follow the comments but I dont like ytube to comment at as "--".

No JP acts 'swiftygood' but no one is good but God. JP is a intellectually selfish individualist ""sovereign"" dishonest person that wont answer questions. It is the first pslam 1 in action regarding JP. Sovereignty is one or the other pick one.

No help can come from a regimen "meds/drugs" with no mindset or removing/overwriting bad programming cuz everyone says how much he helps people. Confusing nation with statism, a SJW judge with a Kavangh, in all the content I researched of JP his Q'A's are art shows or bullshit, pick one.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 12, 2019 5:13 PM  

@29 Longtime Lurker

If you're exposed to them for too long, you want to shrivel up and die.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 12, 2019 5:15 PM  

"If your kid is in public school he is being inundated with lies faster than you can hope to correct them."

@33
Right. Don't ever presume you'd be able to catch all of the commie skool's programming, even if you grill your kid for an hour every day after he gets back about what he was taught.

Blogger Geir Balderson March 12, 2019 5:35 PM  

You have banned him!! He will become stronger than you could ever dream!!

Blogger C-Speaks March 12, 2019 7:31 PM  

I enjoyed the capitalisation of "Smart Boy". That kind of response is certain to make a Gammas' head explode.

Blogger K G March 12, 2019 8:22 PM  

The misuse of “then” and “than”. Absolutely infuriating, but mostly a tell that one was educated by listening to television rather than reading books.

Blogger Jo K March 12, 2019 8:48 PM  

I heard there was a secret court where Scalzi wore the prettiest skirt, and Jim C. Hines was number two, yeah. Well, there's Robinette, then fourth, then fifth, and finally their half-savage pet.

The secret kings are winning, in their heads, yeah. In their heads, yeah. In their heads, yeah...

Blogger John rockwell March 12, 2019 8:55 PM  

''The Gamma asks dishonest questions for the purpose of social maneuvering."

Pharisees in Jesus' day.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 12, 2019 11:10 PM  

@44
>every time JP stands infront of an audience he knows there's a potential horde of liberals ready to scream 'crucify him'. Is Vox a voice in a lynch mob?

> liberals preach victimhood

Self-awareness is hard. For some, anyway...

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 13, 2019 2:31 AM  

Vox, let me tell you the piint of your own freaking video, which I obviously know better than you do, obviously. The point is I am very smart and very woke.

Blogger Gregory the Great March 13, 2019 3:27 AM  

Okay, so Peterson thinks he is the foundation of his own mad cosmos. Captain in his bathtub.

Blogger Gregory the Great March 13, 2019 3:56 AM  

I you say "the individual is the foundation of the cosmos" to the individuals at the Trilateral Commission they will regard this as a devout reference to their godlike status.

Blogger FrankNorman March 13, 2019 5:38 AM  

The phrase "secret king" is an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms. If nobody knows you're a king, then you aren't one.

What these people obviously crave is social status and popularity - and those are things that you by definition can't have without other people knowing it.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon March 13, 2019 3:35 PM  

@21 thebreaker.news/news/ex-ubc-governor-charged/

Fascinating story, this time out of Canada. Notice that Mr. Sidoo wasn't content to send his kids to Canadian schools, but rather pointed them towards the USA. At UBC they would have to compete with the legions of high IQ, hard working Chinese. No go, so 100k it was.

The US college admissions scandal that is breaking has Jewish actors. The Canadian one has an Indian. Two groups that are incredibly competitive, tribal, and willing to break the rules to succeed.

Fraud is such a major problem in India that the US State Department even warned its staff that basic documentation such as birth certificates or diplomas cannot be trusted. I think people underestimate the degree to which Indians are clannish and engaged in various forms of fraud.

Introduce low trust, clannish people into a high trust society and what do you get....

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon March 13, 2019 3:39 PM  

@30 "His focus on the Holodomor means he's almost certainly Alt-Retard."

Why? Because it isn't worth asking Dr. 'We must destroy collective identities in order to avoid more genocides" about a non-Jewish genocide?

How odd. Talk about one of the many other mass killings (e.g., Armenian genocide, holodomor, Russian gulags, Cambodian killing fields) and you are off the plantation.

Peterson is, of course, a complete hypocrite when it comes to condemning identity politics and tribalism, and asking questions about 200 years together and related topics is one way of pointing it out.

Blogger Akuma March 13, 2019 7:59 PM  

Yes. Betas and Gammas whose mental model require you to be Gamma are the worst. They will double down in the most insane ways.

I once got piss tested three times by a Gamma manager. I passed all three. I later confirmed almost a year later from someone that was hired shortly after me, everyone else was doing what I was doing and then some and were never piss tested.

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