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Sunday, March 10, 2019

Breaking Hollywood

Neon Revolt has a plan, courtesy of DirectorAnon:
Most of my readers will know by now that I spent a considerable amount of time in Hollywood, trying to work my way through the ranks, only to be stifled by the identity politics quickly taking root out there during the Obama years.

But the second I read this, I almost jumped out of my chair. I knew immediately that #DirectorAnon wasn’t LARPing, because of this post alone.

It’s almost hard for me to explain to people who haven’t lived and experienced anything out there, but film and TV are basically a two-tiered caste-system.

You have people who are “Above the Line” and people who are “Below the Line.”

Those above, are the head-honchos. The director, the actors, the writers, the producers. They’re called “above the line” because… basically, they get access to royalties and such in their contracts.

Everyone below the line –  the crew, the gaffers, the technicians, etc… They’re all paid hourly. It’s real grunt-work, but it’s the kind of stuff that has to get done, in order for a production to happen. After all, someone has to build the sets, set up the lights, rig up the mics, have craft services ready for when everyone gets hungry, etc, etc, etc.

and IATSE is THE union controlling all these guys.

Every single studio production, be it film or TV, works with IATSE labor. That’s just the way it works out in Hollywood. Every studio is legally bound to use them.

And IATSE guys are like… 90-95% white.

IE: The exact demographic its okay for all these monied, soft-handed execs like Franklin Leonard to hate on so much.

What DirectorAnon is proposing here is a mass IATSE walkout.

In other words, what he’s proposing would completely shut Hollywood down.


In the meantime, a crew man, GafferAnon, explains what you can do to shut down the Pedo Palace:
Make the money dry up.
Stop going to the movie theaters.
Stop using the products they pimp.
Stop paying to be entertained.
Just stop. Stop buying tickets and then complaining about how they inserted SJW poison into your favorite franchise. Stop making snarky comments and posting negative reviews about movies you paid to see. Stop supporting those who hate you, hate your politics, hate your faith, and hate your nation. Stop funding your own destruction!

I have not been to a movie since The Return of the King came out in 2003. I will never see another Hollywood movie in the theater. Anyhow, be sure to read both linked posts in their entireties, as there is a copious amount of information in them.

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102 Comments:

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 10, 2019 9:14 AM  

"Stop making snarky comments and posting negative reviews about movies you paid to see. Stop supporting those who hate you, hate your politics, hate your faith, and hate your nation. Stop funding your own destruction!"

CS Lewis observed this decades ago, when he wrote about "presstitutes", and yet still people can't seem to break the media addiction. You don't like it? Don't pay for it. Better yet, also stigmatize the people who do.

Shut it all down.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd March 10, 2019 9:20 AM  

"Coriolanus" he would not answer ton forbade all names, he was a kind of nothing. Titless. Till he had forged himself a name in the fire of burning Rome!
- Shakespeare's Corolianus

"Burn it."
-William Wallace

Blogger Meanoldbasterd March 10, 2019 9:20 AM  

He would not answer to,

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 10, 2019 9:31 AM  

Cancel your Netflix subscription, buy a big ass TV, sub to a VPN and download u-torrent. You'll have all the entertainment options you could ever want without sending a dime to Pedowood. The number of people on the right who whine and bitch about how terrible the Captain Marvel movie is and how they've wasted their money on woke propaganda. Just stop.

Blogger TheMaleRei March 10, 2019 9:35 AM  

Presuming that walk out does happen I can't wait for the dem-socialists to finally turn against a union that is critical to their success.

On the other hand it may simply result in some sort of 1984 style transformation of the union from what it is today into a multi-cult nonfunctioning nightmare... Which might mean that Hollywood has to finally leave America and go elsewhere to make their drivel, or any of a hundred other scenarios which would make me smile.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 10, 2019 9:35 AM  

Lots of gossip, some plan to stop the gravy train for dudes who mostly like most American dudes like their toys, mmm okay.

To me Hollywood is an attack surface for Non-American intelligence agencies.

Blogger Ingemar March 10, 2019 9:37 AM  

We are long past due for a total media detox.

Blogger Robert What? March 10, 2019 9:38 AM  

Also don't buy the DVD and don't watch it on Netflix of YouTube. Hollywood get royalties from those too.

Blogger Jimmy March 10, 2019 9:40 AM  

The current movies are not made for an American audience. Watch the trailer for Aladdin. Disney seems to have gone full Bollywood. China and India is the emerging market for movies and video games. Pewdiepie vs T-series is a fight for western civilization. Felix is our vanguard. Bitch lasagna is our march.

We're going to lose enjoy the decline.

Blogger BA 117 March 10, 2019 9:43 AM  

After battling liberals on a daily basis what did Sarah Huckabee Sanders do on her first break as Press Secretary in late 2018? She took her whole family on a trip to Disney... The real reason conservatives a losing is because they are fucking retarded.

Blogger Johnny March 10, 2019 9:47 AM  

The big money cut for the studios is in the early release period of a movie. Theater attendance in this period is really handing the money to the studio big time. If you want to see it, but cut the studio money out almost completely, wait until the initial DVD sales period is over to rent a DVD.

Blogger Boorn Boorm March 10, 2019 9:48 AM  

Jew them out, and I mean it positively. The positive part of targeting converged companies, is you reduce the choice you have to think about. Most brand names are simply emotional draws, like Apple. Most Procter and Gamble brand names have alternatives that are just as good and cheaper. Unilever is another converged company.
I wouldn't be surprised the large companies make white label, but you jew them out because they lose the margin on those.

Blogger Joeplanet March 10, 2019 9:48 AM  

You still don’t get it, stupid.

Why would I watch that garbage that does nothing but insult me and mine?


Free poison is no better than paying for idiot

Blogger Boorn Boorm March 10, 2019 9:52 AM  

@13
I'm on board with the movie theatre boycott, that's the easiest. The hardest is with Cable tv, because you can't buy a la carte, but there are companies like Sling which allow something w/o buying your "consumer surplus," as is taught in economics courses.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira March 10, 2019 9:56 AM  

What movies? I haven't seen any movies.

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 10, 2019 10:01 AM  

Wait until it comes out on Blu-Ray. Buy a Netflix subscription. It's OK for your daughters to be introduced to Satanism as long as they're watching Frozen 2 on a streaming service. Conservatives, gotta love em.

Blogger Joeplanet March 10, 2019 10:04 AM  

Cut the cable. For every cable channel you care about, you subsidize an MSNBC.

Cable as a medium is dying. Help it along.

Blogger Steve Canyon March 10, 2019 10:19 AM  

I have a toddler relative about to have a birthday. Checking out the 2 main toy retailers, their toy aisles were nothing but products licensed and tied into media programs. Nothing that could be educational in nature save legos.

Found what I wanted elsewhere. Salient point, seek out independent toy stores and homeschool supply houses for kids' birthday gifts too. A little extra coin is worth a stimulated mind and not another consumerist NPC.

Blogger VD March 10, 2019 10:24 AM  

Free poison is no better than paying for idiot

Yes, it is. Do the math. Free poison, you poison yourself. Paid poison, you poison yourself and you give them the ability to poison the next guy.

Blogger Joeplanet March 10, 2019 10:32 AM  

Vox, I was referring to the person who said to torrent everything. I would think avoiding it all would be preferable to just avoid paying for it.

Blogger JG March 10, 2019 10:34 AM  

I dumped DirecTV a few years ago. Though I have an antenna on the roof for local TV, the only thing I watch these days are the golf majors.

I'm gradually weening the family from streaming video services. Soon we'll have none.

Kindle Unlimited is gone, too; now I buy audiobooks on Arkhaven with that money. Amazon Prime will be gone when the subscription ends.

No more money to my enemies is the goal.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums March 10, 2019 10:35 AM  

People are still hungry or entertainment and they're turning to other places to get their fix, mainly Japan. There's been a significant rise in anime consumption and the opposition has noticed it. Nick Rakieta is dealing with a lawsuit regarding a Christian voice actor who did dubbing for anime. It's was a full on SJW attack on someone who worked for years in the dubbing business. It boils down to he's been accused of swatting, rape, racism, homophobia, the works and it all stems from the fact that he refused to sign some artwork of one of his characters engaging in a homosexual act with another character.

The fight is always there no matter where you run. I hope this whole walkout in Hollywood evolves from a strike to a complete termination of the industry. I don't want Hollywood to stop putting poz'd politics in movies, I want Hollywood to go far and beyond with its evil to the point it alienates everyone. The faster the building crumbles the sooner we can raise another structure.

Blogger Constantin March 10, 2019 10:35 AM  

Last time I went to the theater it was to see J.J. Abrams' remake of Star Wars A New Hope. Haven't given Hollywood a single dime ever since nor do I plan to.

While it does get a little frustrating to have adult people who tell me how immature I am acting ("come on maaaaan, if you can't enjoy even flawed things they win!"), I'll be damned if I ever give money to pedophiles and sexual deviants. If I want to see a movie I'll download it through a torrent; or just watch an older one, since modern movies are awful anyhow.

Can't wait for this cesspool to burn down.

Blogger Dirtnapninja March 10, 2019 10:39 AM  

Truckers are 85% white as well. Imagine the possibilities.

Blogger VD March 10, 2019 10:41 AM  

Vox, I was referring to the person who said to torrent everything. I would think avoiding it all would be preferable to just avoid paying for it.

I know. You're missing the point. Why would you ever criticize someone who is taking a positive step forward simply because they aren't doing everything all at once.

Also, you're wrong. Do you think, for even one second, that everyone who consumes Hollywood products is going to immediately stop doing so? No. But if even a sizable minority stops paying for it, that will kill Hollywood entirely.

Blogger LZ March 10, 2019 10:44 AM  

Most Hollywood movies are total garbage these days even before they shoehorn politics into the movie. For children, most of the shows from the 1980s and earlier are free and they nearly are free of politics, definitely if you go back to Tom & Jerry, Popeye, etc.

Blogger Bobiojimbo March 10, 2019 11:06 AM  

"Stop supporting those who hate you, hate your politics, hate your faith, and hate your nation. Stop funding your own destruction!"

I failed to explain this to my father and sister. The argument got quite passionate. My father's argument was that this is a spiritual war that must be fought on the spiritual side, and that we win anyway in the end when Jesus comes. My sister got angry because she's trying to break into Hollywood. IDK.

Blogger sammibandit March 10, 2019 11:20 AM  

This is great! IATSE operates in Canada as well. Lots of the tech types and even some younger actors are conservatives.

Blogger S. Misanthrope March 10, 2019 11:23 AM  

Our local young Republicans group had an event to see Captain Marvel, of all things. Organzied by a 2nd Gen Russian immigrant. Maybe Russia is trying to take us down aftet all...

Blogger Johnny March 10, 2019 11:25 AM  

>>I failed to explain this to my father and sister. The argument got quite passionate.

The less somebody has to change their overall world view, the more likely they are to go along with your opinion. If you want to try to argue this stuff, don't expect a nexus shift all in one go. Argue a particular when it is relevant, like they have just watched the whatever. And it helps to ask them their opinion because it makes it less of an ego challenge. Typically if anger is involved you have lost the argument.

Blogger Silent Draco March 10, 2019 11:33 AM  

Don't forget the other half: Broadway and stage.

Don't go to any productions on or off Broadway. #MakeManhattanStraightAgain
Ignore the touring companies.
Ignore the tie-ins, like skating shows, as best you can.

If you go, support local theater groups or little theater, dinner theater, etc.
Go to college or HS productions.
In both cases, they pay royalties on a lower schedule. Starvation to the copyright holders.

Talk to your local HS, and make community requests for non-Disney, not-studio derivative shows. Ask for classics or fun oldies. Ask others to do the same request. The kids will like it, just have rarely seen anything non-studio. Their actors and directors need a nudge.

The above and below line split begins in HS. The crew kids and tech director do the work: design, set and item building, light setting, hanging, and spot/fill, set strike and cleanup. The actors think it's all about them and the Big Time. However, in a couple of high schools, I've seen or heard of actors who damaged or broke set pieces for a laugh, and got called on the proscenium line for it. Crew and tech had walked off in disgust, and made it absolutely clear that either the actors keep the changed attitude or the show doesn't happen. Crew won in both cases; actors mostly aren't smart or skilled enough to work backstage.


Blogger Kat March 10, 2019 11:33 AM  

Joeplanet wrote:Vox, I was referring to the person who said to torrent everything. I would think avoiding it all would be preferable to just avoid paying for it.

There are plenty of older movies and series that are actually entertaining, but the studios are still getting cuts if you get them off Netflix. At this point I don't have the slightest guilty twinge about getting old BBC or PBS productions off torrent (ie the good Pride and Prejudice adaptation). Ditto for older Hollywood movies. I'm not going to buy it and pay them to create whatever abomination they're currently contemplating, but I'm also not going to shun the good stuff from ten, twenty, or forty years ago.

Blogger sammibandit March 10, 2019 11:40 AM  

>Talk to your local HS, and make community requests for non-Disney, not-studio derivative shows. Ask for classics or fun oldies. Ask others to do the same request. The kids will like it, just have rarely seen anything non-studio. Their actors and directors need a nudge.

This is brilliant. The hs I attended had the most conservative, redpilled tech theatre department head. He was more con and rp than most men I've met. And we loved him. Radio techs seem to be similar.

>The above and below line split begins in HS. The crew kids and tech director do the work: design, set and item building, light setting, hanging, and spot/fill, set strike and cleanup. The actors think it's all about them and the Big Time. However, in a couple of high schools, I've seen or heard of actors who damaged or broke set pieces for a laugh, and got called on the proscenium line for it. Crew and tech had walked off in disgust, and made it absolutely clear that either the actors keep the changed attitude or the show doesn't happen. Crew won in both cases; actors mostly aren't smart or skilled enough to work backstage.

They lack the ability to work in a very hierarchical team. Space is super cramped behind the stage and in the operating box behind the audience.

If someone wants to help draft letters to schools I'll be glad to help find theatre schools and contacts. I'm really good at cold calling without a contact sheet but not good at letter drafting.

Blogger wahr01 March 10, 2019 11:51 AM  

Hollywood is aready dead among zoomers.
Millennials like me first torrented, then stopped even torrenting movies.
To those of us below 35 this hollywood drama is like a fight between 2 ant colonies you occasionally exacerbate by poking holes in the hill.

This is a fight for the boomers.
We moved on to anime and youtube long ago.

Blogger Avalanche March 10, 2019 11:59 AM  

@14 "I'm on board with the movie theatre boycott, that's the easiest. The hardest is with Cable tv,"

"Cause, you know, I'm completely addicted to the constant propaganda in EVERY SINGLE TV show, movie, media thing our enemies offer to me! Gotta watch 'em all! I can't POSSIBLY live without muh TV shows! Gotta keep seeing them black lawyers and accountants and physicists making niglets with pretty, intelligent white women! Gotta keep seeing how the Noble Negro comes and saves the poor white woman saddled with that doofus white man who can't even find his way home! Can't do without those funny shows with a neighborhood of multi-culti who all BBQ together (always at the white guy's house, ever notice?)? Need to keep seeing those always-White villains being beaten and arrested by them fahn upstandin' black and hispanic cops! Oh! And gotta keep watching them hulking black bucks crashing into each other on a grass playground marked with stripes (AFTER they kneel against my country!), or on a wooden floor with bleachers! Well, ah jes' CAIN'T do without THOSE, doncha know!"

Gonna skip movies that propagandize -- but you can't possibly do without THE SAME PROPAGANDA, only way more ubiquitous, inside your own house for many many more hours a day!? (Got kids? Hmmmm.)

Yeah, I thought I'd hate cutting the cable -- but just like EVERYONE who's done it says, it turns out I don't miss it! (Plus, you can use half+ of your normal cable bill as donations to people on our side who are being starved out! Wanna support Voxiversity? There's how!)

About a year later, I tried Sling ("free for 7 days") -- I didn't even last four hours! The din, the noise, the jump cuts, the shrieking and yelling and fake audience laughter (and THAT was on Home and Garden TV!! And it was without ads -- JUST the programs!)

Blogger Johnny March 10, 2019 12:10 PM  

wahr01 wrote:Hollywood is aready dead among zoomers.

Millennials like me first torrented, then stopped even torrenting movies.

To those of us below 35 this hollywood drama is like a fight between 2 ant colonies you occasionally exacerbate by poking holes in the hill.

This is a fight for the boomers.

We moved on to anime and youtube long ago.


You and your buddies have moved on. That's all.

If you want to look around a little, you will find that the highest per capita theater attendance last year was the 12 to 17 age group. Next up, 18 to 24. By age it has always been thus. Young men have long been the biggest purchasers of tickets.

I find it remarkable that they can have such heavy handed propaganda and not lose more attendance than they have.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club March 10, 2019 12:17 PM  

Which might mean that Hollywood has to finally leave America and go elsewhere to make their drivel

One of Hollywood's many dirty little secrets: most productions already have left. Only the really big movies still hang about in Hollywood, most everyone else is scrambling around the globe, looking for cheap, low-tax and probably non-union places to make their crap, and much of the animation and CGI you see is outsourced overseas, even in the big money productions. True money-grubbing globalism from real globalist filth.

Blogger Jeff Weimer March 10, 2019 12:38 PM  

I thought "above the line" were those who shared in the revenue of a movie and "below the line" and thus are a cost of production were those that shared the *profits* - of which no movie ever seems to have, due to all those "above the line" costs such as revenue shares, marketing, "management fees" and other creative accounting items.

Blogger Timmy3 March 10, 2019 12:38 PM  

Movie studios consolidation continues with Disney taking Fox. I suspect Disney will just fold it’s library and fire most everyone in Fox. They’re making the same worthless movies and sequels every year. Disney will prove to destroy all content it acquires. The domestic market for its films will be a fraction of its global market. Making American movies are an endangered enterprise.

Blogger Johnny March 10, 2019 12:43 PM  

>>shared the *profits* - of which no movie ever seems to have,...

I take it as a given that studio accounting is bonkers, and that apparently they get away with it because they are in such a strong position to pander to the political class.

Blogger Michael Maier March 10, 2019 12:54 PM  

Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club wrote:Which might mean that Hollywood has to finally leave America and go elsewhere to make their drivel

One of Hollywood's many dirty little secrets: most productions already have left. Only the really big movies still hang about in Hollywood, most everyone else is scrambling around the globe, looking for cheap, low-tax and probably non-union places to make their crap, and much of the animation and CGI you see is outsourced overseas, even in the big money productions. True money-grubbing globalism from real globalist filth.


I'm still surprised more animation studios haven't sprouted up. Seems as though it would be super-low barriers to entry.

Blogger Johnny March 10, 2019 1:00 PM  

>>I'm still surprised more animation studios haven't sprouted up. Seems as though it would be super-low barriers to entry.

My take is that the problem is quality. Hollywood has a huge talent crew to draw on. In animation, trying to turn out a Pixar or Marvel quality movie is a pretty high hurdle.

Blogger Stickwick Stapers March 10, 2019 1:09 PM  

This cinephile is done with contemporary movies and TV.

As much as I've enjoyed the Avengers movies so far, I'm not going to make an exception for Endgame. I'm kind of superhero'd out, and the MCU actors talking politics has killed whatever enthusiasm I had left.

Blogger Dane March 10, 2019 1:14 PM  

@40 theres already a Bollywood, China has their stars and film industry. What makes American films great is it's a glimpse into American culture it's the sale of the American dream.

Hollywood can copy the other film markets but all their doing is speeding their irrelevance. Neither the Chinese or Indians or fans of Bollywood or Chinese cinema will flock to Hollywood for a watered down version of their own industry.

Blogger kurt9 March 10, 2019 2:01 PM  

The last time I went to cinema was in Nov 2008 to seek the second Daniel Craig Bond movie. I have bought DVD's since that time.

I would go one step further with avoiding Hollywood. I would stop renting DVD's, watching Netflix, or the like as much as possible. I binned my cable/satellite service when I moved 3 years ago.

My wife watches Japanese dramas on Youtube as well as several Japanese/Korean video sites. I watch mostly youtube videos and read lots of books.

The best approach to Hollywood is to simply starve the beast.

Blogger kurt9 March 10, 2019 2:03 PM  

The same goes for the Disney theme parks as well. Not that I'm into these (I'm not as I don't have kids and am not into "kids" stuff), but the recent culture wars gives me additional reason to avoid these as well.

If you have family and money to burn, take them on beach holiday instead.

Blogger JAG March 10, 2019 2:23 PM  

Bobiojimbo wrote:"Stop supporting those who hate you, hate your politics, hate your faith, and hate your nation. Stop funding your own destruction!"

I failed to explain this to my father and sister. The argument got quite passionate. My father's argument was that this is a spiritual war that must be fought on the spiritual side, and that we win anyway in the end when Jesus comes. My sister got angry because she's trying to break into Hollywood. IDK.


You break into Hollywood via nepotism. Explain to your sister that she is chasing a dragon she isn't going to catch. She is 99% certain to never break in.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums March 10, 2019 2:24 PM  

Johnny wrote:>>I'm still surprised more animation studios haven't sprouted up. Seems as though it would be super-low barriers to entry.

My take is that the problem is quality. Hollywood has a huge talent crew to draw on. In animation, trying to turn out a Pixar or Marvel quality movie is a pretty high hurdle.


The issue is the same as with comics: distribution.
How can you expect a production company to flourish when they don't have access to their audience? An episode of "Masha and The Bear", Russian animation, has >3.5 billion views on YouTube. Judging by the credits of the show this was achieved with a fraction of the staff of your average western animated movie. If Disney would have been able to pull numbers like those you would have already seen sequels, prequels, spin-offs, Disney rides, video-games, etc everywhere.

Ironically sites like YT and Netflix will lead to the destruction of Hollywood because they're making the usual distribution channels obsolete. Now that I think more about it this whole Hollywood walk-out might prove pointless. If Hollywood is gone then Netflix will take over and they're just as bad if not worse.

Blogger kurt9 March 10, 2019 2:27 PM  

The other thing that's going to hammer Hollywood is corporate debt. Apparently all of the major studios have massive debts they have accumulated over the years of cheap credit.

Blogger Johnny March 10, 2019 2:39 PM  

>>You break into Hollywood via nepotism. Explain to your sister that she is chasing a dragon she isn't going to catch. She is 99% certain to never break in.

Ain't it something, what hypocrites they are. They moan and grown about favoritism of every sort, in the rest of us, and then practice it heavy duty inside their own industry.

Blogger liberranter March 10, 2019 2:46 PM  

Presuming that walk out does happen I can't wait for the dem-socialists to finally turn against a union that is critical to their success.

We all know what the response to a strike will be. The Hollywood Elite will do the modern equivalent of what the owners of mines and factories did a century ago during the Guilded Age: bring in whole armies of scabs, this time probably on H1B-type visas from Third World shit hole countries. Sure, the result will be insufferably awful, shoddy production that will incur more cost overruns for the studios than if they'd just been reasonable with IATSE, but that's not the point. Globalism is a religion for these elites and any other professed principles go right out the window when it is threatened (let us hark back to Bill Clinton and NAFTA in the early 90s, another example of the leftist elite selling out its base).

Blogger VD March 10, 2019 2:48 PM  

My sister got angry because she's trying to break into Hollywood.

Give her Harvey Weinstein's number. I hear that helps. Pro tip: bring a potted plant.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 10, 2019 2:53 PM  

"Just stop. Stop buying tickets and then complaining about how they inserted SJW poison into your favorite franchise. Stop making snarky comments and posting negative reviews about movies you paid to see. Stop supporting those who hate you, hate your politics, hate your faith, and hate your nation. Stop funding your own destruction!"

This should be put on billboards. I have not paid to see a motion picture in a theater since 2007. The only time I buy a CD is at a second hand store. I do not do Netflix. I do not pay to use Youtube. I do not have cable. I didn't even have a TV until I found one that makes a great monitor.

And in my older days, as a cuckertarian, thinking that all the masses needed was "to be educated", I used to think I was but a good example of how to starve the beast. Yet the brainless hordes just keep sheepling along into the theaters and paying for that cable and subs.

It would seem bleak if Hollywood was actually putting stuff out that was worthwhile to to see.

In the meantime, these days are so ripe for indy efforts and upstarts it's amazing that it has not happened yet. Oh wait, better legalize that weed and fast so nobody is motivated to do anything. Soma, anybody?

I look forward to seeing what Vox and Owen might have cooking up, if anything. The time is coming. The tide will turn.

Blogger Ken Prescott March 10, 2019 2:56 PM  

It would make all-CGI animation just about the only way to make movies or TV.

Is there enough frame-rendering capacity available in the world to do this?

@51

"We all know what the response to a strike will be. The Hollywood Elite will do the modern equivalent of what the owners of mines and factories did a century ago during the Guilded Age: bring in whole armies of scabs, this time probably on H1B-type visas from Third World shit hole countries. Sure, the result will be insufferably awful, shoddy production that will incur more cost overruns for the studios than if they'd just been reasonable with IATSE, but that's not the point."

It would utterly destroy the value proposition. Who would pay $10+ for a ticket to a movie that looks like something thrown together in your garage with your parents' Super 8 camera?

What theater owner would agree to Hollyweird monetary terms for movies that are visually unappealing, where the sound quality makes you nostalgic for shellac 78 mono discs, and are massively overpriced because the budgetary caps got blown through within two days of production start?

Blogger joekr March 10, 2019 3:16 PM  

The same goes for the Disney theme parks as well. Not that I'm into these (I'm not as I don't have kids and am not into "kids" stuff), but the recent culture wars gives me additional reason to avoid these as well.

If you have family and money to burn, take them on beach holiday instead


I have friends and family members, all professing Christians, who spend several thousand dollars a year on trips to Disney World. And yet they gripe about the filth and perversion in the entertainment industry .

Blogger Skyler the Weird March 10, 2019 3:25 PM  

I'd not seen a Hollywood movie since the injustice of the Last Jedi until this past Month when I saw both 'They Shall Not Grow Old' and 'Alita Battleangel'. I'm usually content to wait for new releases to hit Netflix,hull, or the public library.

I'm waiting to see if Congress passes a law where you must buy movie tickets or pay a tax.

Blogger Joseph Maroney March 10, 2019 3:32 PM  

"The number of people on the right who whine and bitch about how terrible the Captain Marvel movie is and how they've wasted their money on woke propaganda. Just stop."

For Youtubers, it's good business. Acerbic reviews are very popular, far more entertaining than glowing shill tripe. Seeing the movie gets them more subs. Or they can be like EVS and spend their whole videos reading other peoples' reviews.

Blogger Skyler the Weird March 10, 2019 3:34 PM  

@2. Have you seen Joseph Fiennes modern Coriolanus? Rome with CNN and SJW outrage mobs and Pleb lives matter protests.

Blogger Lamarck Leland March 10, 2019 3:37 PM  

It never made sense to me to give money and support to people who insult me and my religion.
I quit watching Hollywood and most European movies a long time ago too and then I found a few good Asian movies to watch.

Of course I am single. Once I start looking for a wife I imagine it will be difficult to find a girl that doesn't care about cinema or netfilx.

Blogger Garuna March 10, 2019 3:46 PM  

My father's argument was that this is a spiritual war that must be fought on the spiritual side, and that we win anyway in the end when Jesus comes.

That's an interesting way of saying "I just cannot stop myself from paying for capeshit".

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella March 10, 2019 3:57 PM  

I don't know that Hollywood isn't already irrelevant: Games makes more than Hollywood.

Mexico (Univision) has better quality studios and cameras. Until the violence really ramped up advertising execs would travel to Mexico to shoot commercials. Some lived on the Mexican side of the border for fast turn-around.

There's already specialty Mormon studios making Mormon entertainment. Movies, mini-series, comedy. Atlanta has facilities. I want to say Dallas has a studio making I'm not sure what. Austin has a studio built by Robert Rodriguez.

There are series on youtube that my kid watches. The fluffy angry birds, I've mentioned. There's one with stop-motion animation of Spiderman and other action figures. The plot is lame, but the skills are good. There's some Russian and some Chinese animations and live action stuff covering learning letters and colors and numbers and who knows what else. There's RyanToyReviews. There's "hobbykids" doing I'm not sure what.

We have a giant TV. My husband watches football on it. It's been out for a week now, and he's going to cancel because nobody even noticed it wasn't working.

As for distribution: okay, so you might not get a national rollout. National rollouts became a thing in the 1970s. Before that, people would drive film reels from city to city. That wasn't a viable strategy while we had only national chains. But- right now, we've got smaller, indy food and film businesses like Alamo Drafthouse getting replicated across the country. New York has smaller, indy theaters. I would think any theater that is advertising that it's going to broadcast an opera is maybe needing warm bodies in seats. If you did a fair cut, I'd think that that theater operator would at least be willing to listen to your pitch.

I mean, right now, for midlist movies- distribution, financing, and advertising is broken. No one knows what the movie is, who is in it, what the story is.

Festivals: it worked for gays, why not try it with normal people? A festival of new sci-fi/ action films would be really cool, right? Esp if the actors were there signing posters and taking photos? Kim K had a glossy photo printer right there at a perfume launch, before she was amazingly famous: she acted famous, and it worked. A camera team would take photos of whomever with her, print up what looked like an 8*10, and slip it into a fancy envelop, and give it away. The one I saw online was a launch at a Sephora: a chain store. A guy proposed to his girlfriend on the photo.

Ulta has chain stores all over the Midwest. If you had a licensing agreement with a makeup company based in America- in the LA Basin, or Brooklyn, or Tennessee, you'd have products, you would have an additional income stream. The main criticism with Disney makeup launches is that they try to cheap it out with Chinese made crummy makeup.

I've found streaming shows from makeup reviews.

Blogger S1AL March 10, 2019 4:03 PM  

I'm actually staggered that anyone thinks American audiences will make or break any given movie, much less Hollywood as a whole. Compare domestic vs. international numbers.

Blogger Kat March 10, 2019 4:10 PM  

Lamarck Leland wrote:It never made sense to me to give money and support to people who insult me and my religion.

I quit watching Hollywood and most European movies a long time ago too and then I found a few good Asian movies to watch.

Of course I am single. Once I start looking for a wife I imagine it will be difficult to find a girl that doesn't care about cinema or netfilx.


Honestly, you might have to find an outspoken somewhat dorky girl and see if you can't inspire a more feminine attitude in her. A virtuous woman who can survive without her "crew" either lives in the last sane community in America, or she's probably gotten a few callouses along the way. The women I'm thinking of are feminine at heart, but they can come across as dowdy and/or brash. The characteristics that make them able to resist modern culture can come out in them not having the best girl game.

Blogger Mark Stoval March 10, 2019 4:14 PM  

The Wife is watching "After the Thin Man" from 1936 as I type this. Old movies are much better than what Hollyweird has put out for the last several decades.

I don't watch movies and very little TV, but I will watch a Hallmark Channel movie with the wife once in a while. They are not perfect, but the "narrative" is not as bad --- and there are a lot of white people for some reason.

Other than that, non fiction books and dark places on the inter-tubes is my entertainment. I have been boycotting Hollyweird for a long time.

Blogger Garuna March 10, 2019 4:19 PM  

Cernovich made a good point when he said that conservatives want to be on the cover of Rolling Stone. But liberals don't want to be on the cover of any conservative magazine or anything.

For example, look at this picture of Sean Spicer at the Emmys. Look at Alex Baldwin's indifference versus that faggot Spicer's glee. He's getting wet from excitement.

In the pickup artist sense, most conservatives are just beta rejects who will do anything for a spot at the "cool" kids table. This sense of inferiority is a big problem. It is why they are so scared to ban abortion or deport illegals, while they actually brag about doing something feminist or racially equalist. It might literally kill them of heartbreak if liberals rejected them.

It is also why they refuse to boycott Hollywood. Look at the recent pictures of Republican Senators and congressman with that virulently anti-Trump Captain America actor. They're so happy. The eyepatch faggot even had a Captain America themed fake eyeball on. These losers don't want to defeat Hollywood. They want to impress them.

I wonder how many "conservatives" are just fake right. It sure doesn't seem to bother them how badly the Right has been losing.

I think we need to adopt the Owen Benjamin path of actually rejecting pro-abortion faggots like Tim Pool instead of being grateful that they defend us sometimes. Stefan has also talked about ostracizing people who are insufficiently right-wing.

Blogger SciVo March 10, 2019 4:26 PM  

Bobiojimbo wrote:"Stop supporting those who hate you, hate your politics, hate your faith, and hate your nation. Stop funding your own destruction!"

I failed to explain this to my father and sister. The argument got quite passionate. My father's argument was that this is a spiritual war that must be fought on the spiritual side, and that we win anyway in the end when Jesus comes. My sister got angry because she's trying to break into Hollywood. IDK.


There are so many Bible verses, like the parable of the talents, and the sorting into sheep and goats. But you can't reason someone out of a position that he didn't reason himself into. I just don't talk about it with anyone I want to maintain a relationship with, because they should be ashamed -- but if you successfully roused the appropriate self-disgust, then they would likely hate you for it.

Anyway, with your sister, you could try telling her that guys hear that as "I want to be a whore, but with a Jew pimp and coke instead of a ni**er and crack." Dunno if it would change anything, but her expression would be priceless. Might want to record it.

Blogger Unknown March 10, 2019 4:29 PM  

>>And IATSE guys are like… 90-95% white.

And they are blue pilled white. They, reliably, vote/think/feel/live prog or cuck. Can't muster sympathy for them. They are part of the problem. Myself, I would have been anathematized from their company would they hear my opinions. I want to see that IATSE union reflect the demographics of LA county. Then these prog cucks will understand how dire the situation is, and we can talk about mutual support. Until then, I offer nothing.

Blogger CitizenOutkast March 10, 2019 4:42 PM  

This thread is interesting, because I would like to find some alternatives. I have a 9 year old boy and an under 2 year old girl, and while watching TV isn't an issue (as we don't have it), watching something online that's actually good could end up being one.

Someone mentioned "Masha and the Bear." I'm going to check that out. But does anyone have any suggestions for things a boy would like to watch that isn't SJW crap? Youtube/online is perfect as the access, too.

I myself only watch two TV shows, and when I do, I put on an eye patch and go sailing to get them. No money given. I like anime, but aside from Attack on Titan, don't know of any series, as I've just seen single episodes here and there. The only shows I watch are the Flash and the Walking Dead, so anything that's superhero/fighting and not SJWed would be worth a look.

So, if anyone's willing to offer suggestions, I would appreciate it. From what people have said about TV here, I'm not going to get it again, so that's out. Last movie I saw in a theater was Man of Steel. A couple people here have spoken about Korean movies. If going outside of American cinema is that much better, so be it.

Blogger Garuna March 10, 2019 4:46 PM  

I'm actually staggered that anyone thinks American audiences will make or break any given movie, much less Hollywood as a whole. Compare domestic vs. international numbers.

IIRC Hollywood takes a smaller percentage of foreign grosses. For example in China they only take about a quarter of the gross. Whereas domestically, they take about half.

Also, the budget of a lot of these big movies nowadays is like $200-300 million, before adding marketing costs. Industry people say they need to make 2.5 times that to break even. Which means they need to make more than $500-750 million to even make a profit. This is why many $900 million grossing films like Batman v Superman are considered disappointments, while the $400 million grossing Han Solo movie is considered an outright bomb.

Considering this, if the domestic numbers were to take a significant hit due to committed boycotts, a lot of films would go from profitable to money-losers.

Blogger Nate73 March 10, 2019 5:03 PM  

The thing about putting on the eyepatch and going sailing is, are you actually compensating anybody from a company that made something if it's a few years old? People leave, companies change, and even after a few years the original people that helped make the thing might be gone.

Blogger Ford Prefect March 10, 2019 5:22 PM  

@45: you're the second poster to mention renting DVDs. It's 2019. Where to you rent DVDs in this day and age?

One thing I like doing it buying used DVDs. There's a store for that a few KM from home, most items being under $5. I'm quite certain not a penny of my purchase goes to the folk in Hollyweird.

Blogger Garuna March 10, 2019 5:42 PM  

For all the crying about feminists from the anti-SJW Youtubers, it was MEN that gave Captain Marvel a successful opening. 61% male! For comparison, MCU audiences are usually about 55% male and Wonder Woman's was about 55% female.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJGg3wJx1fg&t=1m16s

What the fuck?! I had assumed that Captain Marvel was buoyed up by feminists. But it's the fucking soyboys who are to blame.

Considering the $150 million opening, women were 39% or $58.5 million of that. If the soyboys showed up proportional to women by the MCU standards, the opening would've been $130 million (slight underperformance). By Wonder Woman standards, it'd be $106 million (underperformance). And Wonder Woman wasn't openly antagonistic to men like this movie and its lead actress were. So really, if these cucked American men had any self-respect, they'd show up in proportionally smaller numbers than for Wonder Woman. And then the opening weekend would've been below $100 million (serious underperformance).

Let's see how the 2nd weekend drop is. 60% is bad. 50-55% is normal. But man, was it surprising to see that it was "61% male".

Blogger Gianna March 10, 2019 5:50 PM  

@68 CitizenOutcast

For 9 year olds there are a lot of old English shows (from the 60s to 90s) that are good on Youtube now. They take a while for kids to get into just because the quality is lower than they are used to but my kids grew to love them. The Famous Five, Billy Bunter, Amazons and Swallows (the old one). The original Pippi Longstocking is funny too.
My boys listened to a lot of audio books instead of watching tv while they built Lego. Just William is good, any children's book read by Martin Jarvis or Alan Bennett is excellent. Most of the old BBC productions are very good.

Blogger eclecticme March 10, 2019 5:55 PM  

Slightly OT
David Horowitz just released a book. It stresses the Chrisitan nature of early America and the agenda to destroy it.

Dark Agenda: The War to Destroy Christian America.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/03/david_horowitz_exposes_the_lefts_dark_agenda.html

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 10, 2019 6:12 PM  

@20
I would think avoiding it all would be preferable to just avoid paying for it.

One way to look at it:

The perfect is the enemy of the good

Gotta start somewhere. Plus, apart from the money issue, the extra effort involved in torrenting as compared to just plopping down in front of the TV and hitting the remote pretty much ensures that there will be a significant decrease in viewing time.

@35
The din, the noise, the jump cuts, the shrieking and yelling and fake audience laughter

Yeah, once you've been away from TV for a while the laugh tracks are really grating.

@40
I take it as a given that studio accounting is bonkers, and that apparently they get away with it because they are in such a strong position to pander to the political class.

Hollywood accounting

Blogger Haxo Angmark March 10, 2019 6:13 PM  

Jewtube has thousands of excellent, pirated movies that (((Hollywood))) gets nothing out of. Some have ads, but most of the ads can be clicked off as soon as they begin. Two of the best, both with - to put it mildly - non PC values:

Daylight's End @ http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fcnw_6ak6Gg

Den of Thieves @ http://youtube.com/watch?v=y66Qkqto3qE

trigger warning: both feature high levels of "toxic masculinity"

Blogger Ford Prefect March 10, 2019 6:14 PM  

@68: for the younger child, see if you can track down episodes of Mr Dressup. Wonderful Canadian show from the 60s (when I watched it) and 70s and (possibly) beyond.


@72: Possibly, like me, they have heard that Captain Marvel appears in the final Avengers movie and want the backstory (I know diddly about Captain Marvel). Were it not for the Avengers movie, I'd probably give the good Captain a pass. Should she earn a sequel, I'll probably pass on it (unless the first one is much better than I'm hearing).

Blogger Unknown March 10, 2019 6:26 PM  

A wonderful American show from the 1950s was Father Knows Best, starring Robert Young. Just a good show. Good values. Good production and performance.

Blogger Mega-Buster Shepard March 10, 2019 7:04 PM  

Lot of great stuff in the public domain to watch. Currently enjoying some noir courtesy of Razorfist

Blogger Pierre Truc March 10, 2019 7:06 PM  

Neon revolt's website is down.

Blogger Damelon Brinn March 10, 2019 7:36 PM  

Is there any reason to believe box office claims anymore? Are they under any legal obligation to try to be accurate with them?

Blogger VD March 10, 2019 7:49 PM  

Neon revolt's website is down.

It goes down nearly every time he does a new post.

Blogger Chris Ritchie March 10, 2019 7:51 PM  

Great comments in the first third. Wanted to get this in the thread:

Vox is right. If even a minority of people stopped paying for it, Hollywood as we know it would collapse. None of us are taught propaganda techniques. One thing at a time, with repetition seems to be the key.

It didn't happen overnight. We don't have a TV in the house now. Rarely watch videos. Here are some books that helped me get there:
Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business by Neil Postman
Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television by Jerry Mander
Technopoly by Neil Postman
The Plug-In Drug by Marie Winn

Blogger Wolfman at Large March 10, 2019 7:53 PM  

So either we're getting a new Neon Revolt post or somebody is VERY nervous about that QAnon book He's just finished the first draft of.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella March 10, 2019 8:48 PM  

Nigeria created an African film industry out of a pack of unused VHS tapes. A souk merchant bought blank VHS tapes, filmed a film with locals- no permits- then sold the tapes at the souk. It was a hit. He repeated this stunt. His fellow souk mates got in on the action- and now a new film was being put on tape every two weeks.

There was, of course, pirating. They didn't ask the police to oppress the piraters: they accepted that they had two weeks until copycats flooded the market: and, mind you, built out the market even further. Consumers don't care who films it: they want the story one way or another.

They moved up to DVDs, as profits grew. Smugglers would fly out into the bush with catalogue cases full of tapes and DVDs, to entertain the bush armies of various warlords. As these tapes had value- the warlord would trade the tapes further into conflict regions.

All the while, mainstream American and European films showed at the local cinemaplex. The tickets were too expensive for most people, but not too expensive for NGO Westerners.

The Africans built a film system right under the noses of the imported elite by different distribution, different stars, creating plots out of whole cloth, and churning.

Then they started having public film festivals and awards shows. Not before.

There isn't a reason that some new group couldn't sell $10 DVDs online, for movies. Do a theater or two, if you can- sort of like "as seen on tv"- put clips that can be GIFed for promotion, and do it until there's a streaming online service's worth of movies, or a cable channel. There isn't a reason you can't develop your own stars.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella March 10, 2019 8:49 PM  

I mean, I would pay for a channel that just did all the Peanuts characters videos on repeat, endlessly. As it is, we've nearly bought enough DVDs to set up a channel, except we've got children, and those things get scratched by excited fans.

Blogger flyingtiger March 10, 2019 9:35 PM  

#68 Uhn... You have not noticed the gay couple and the gay romances, or the interracial romances? Worst of all is the lax safety standards at STAR labs.

Blogger Kat March 10, 2019 10:34 PM  

While people are giving movie recommendations - are there any actually good princess movies out there?

Blogger rumpole5 March 10, 2019 11:34 PM  

I arrived at this same conclusion (stop seeing their movies) about a decade ago. I stopped reading the newspapers and watching TV news (indeed, TV in general) about 2 decades ago. I do miss the funnies page.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener March 11, 2019 12:09 AM  

Hollywood has been converged for a long time now. I'd point to the mid-60s as the time when it started to go seriously off the rails.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella March 11, 2019 2:29 AM  

#88. The classic Walt Disneys, from when Walt Disney was in charge: the original Cinderella, the original sleeping beauty. Aristocats.

My daughter saw Cinderella at three, and I think it changed her life.

We saw the one with the lanterns? Rapunzel? in the theater. It was so charming. I know I saw essays about how she was rebelling against the witch who had raised her, but- she's not- she's rebelling against a witch who raised her wrong. It's charming. And,frankly, if you are in a family with a stepmom, you kind of need to be fearless and tough and resourceful.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella March 11, 2019 2:35 AM  

Really, Beauty and the Beast and the Little Mermaid, likewise, charming.

The others....the one with the redhead......silence in the theater. It didn't charm, delight or sweep anyone away. YMMV


Blogger OvergrownHobbit March 11, 2019 3:45 AM  

@68 The best super-hero movie right now is a series called My Hero Academia. Very violent, however.

My Neighbor Totoro, Spirited Away... some of the Sudio Ghibli stuff is great for littlest, but some is very violent and creepy (Princess Mononoke). Gravity Falls and Phineas and Ferb on DVD from the library.. you can see the edges of Disney's convergence in the former. The latter is pure gold. The old Thundercats is fun.

Good Mythical Morning is okay but again, not for the very youngest.

Stampy Longnose was great for very young minecraft fans. Older kids will enjoy the Hermit Crab team.

For the very littlest, Mister Rogers on DVD, Charlie and Lola on DVD.

Mostly for the very littles you're better off with reading aloud to them and games.

Blogger Ryan G March 11, 2019 5:26 AM  

A lamentation I hear, mostly from people like my Boomer parents, is, "What else can we watch?"

There is more media available for consumption now than there ever has been in the history of our species.

Leaving aside the foreign film circuit, there are a wealth of classic movies you can watch that are either in public domain or extremely inexpensive.

There are also video games (at least if you avoid some of the more converged AAA studios), books, board games (like D&D), and music. But I think people know all that. It's too obvious not to.

One of the reasons I think Hollywood continues to make billions of dollars is societal inertia. "Going out with friends/your girlfriend/spouse to see a movie" is just something people do, sort of like how almost everyone used to attend church on Sundays.

The only way I can see to counteract this inertia is start doing other things with your friends in lieu of going to theaters. What that takes the form of will doubtless vary on your social circle, but I think it's essential to *displace* Hollywood, rather than simply *purge* it from our lives.

Blogger Joe Katzman March 11, 2019 5:59 AM  

Try www.PureFlix.com as an option if you’re looking for older shows and wholesome fare. Explicitly Christian.

Blogger Solon March 11, 2019 7:25 AM  

I wouldn't recommend u-torrent. Believe it or not but they DO crack down on illegal downloads.

I downloaded a movie and got a C&D in the mail three days later. Deleted the file and u-torrent instantly.

If you have a VPN you can probably sneak it by. Don't ever do it without a VPN though, you'll get vanned with haste.

Blogger VD March 11, 2019 8:28 AM  

We saw the one with the lanterns? Rapunzel? in the theater. It was so charming. I know I saw essays about how she was rebelling against the witch who had raised her, but- she's not- she's rebelling against a witch who raised her wrong. It's charming. And,frankly, if you are in a family with a stepmom, you kind of need to be fearless and tough and resourceful.

You're part of the problem, Ariadne. Not only are you subjecting your children to Disney's anti-family propaganda, you're falling for it yourself.

"She's rebelling, but it's a GOOD rebellion" is precisely the sort of distinction that doesn't matter. You clearly don't understand how propaganda works.

Blogger Boorn Boorm March 11, 2019 10:27 AM  

@35
Sling from Dish network is the least worst option. All the others, like Comcast, Directv, Playstation tv are all connected to hollywood nepotism.
Dish network is probably comped anyway...shit.

Blogger Daniel March 11, 2019 1:29 PM  

But she will be casted-couch antway

Blogger eclecticme March 11, 2019 6:03 PM  

@91. Ariadne Umbrella March 11, 2019 2:29 AM

#88. The classic Walt Disneys, from when Walt Disney was in charge: the original Cinderella, the original sleeping beauty. Aristocats. ...


I did not starve the beast but I did control what my kids watched long ago.

Instead of having cable I bought 1 or 2 VHS tapes per month. Lots of old Disney stuff. Some Japanese. Princess Mononoke, Zoids, Johnny Quest. For some reason my very young son loved Seven Samurai. Old VHS tapes are free or almost free now. I found The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh on youtube recently.

Reading from old children's books was good also. Back then some games required planning. Age of Empires, Sim City.

I do not intentionally starve the beast now. Movies suck so I do not see them. Norman was the last movie I saw in the theater. Good. Richard Gere. I like TV when well done e.g. The Americans.

Some author asked a question years ago. What happens when worldwide audiences decide American movies and culture sucks?

Blogger eclecticme March 11, 2019 6:08 PM  

@98. Boorn Boorm March 11, 2019 10:27 AM

@35
Sling from Dish network is the least worst option. All the others, like Comcast, Directv, Playstation tv are all connected to hollywood nepotism.
Dish network is probably comped anyway...shit.

Roku is not bad. No monthly fee unless you subscribe to something, then monthly charges e.g. HBO, SHO, whatever.Cycle between them if you wish. Youtube is free on Roku. Amazon Prime is the best value per dollar IMO. It was $120 year.

Blogger CitizenOutkast March 11, 2019 8:04 PM  

Thank you all for your suggestions. It's a good amount to check out, which is perfect. I appreciate it. :)

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