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Saturday, March 09, 2019

"Greatest scam in history"

Even the environmentalists are seeing through the Fake Science of climate change:
Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore had harsh words for the modern environmental movement, calling global warming “the greatest scam in history” and denouncing the use of “fear and guilt” to push the message.

“The climate catastrophe is strictly a fear campaign – well, fear and guilt,” Moore told Breitbart radio host Rebecca Mansour. “You’re afraid you’re killing your children because you’re driving them in your SUV and emitting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and you feel guilty for doing that. There’s no stronger motivation than those two.”

“Nothing else comes close,” Moore insisted, likening the contemporary environmental movement to “a toxic mix of ideology, of politics and religion. CO2 is the food for life! It’s not pollution,” the would-be heretic declared, claiming that the use of fossil fuels had actually “saved life from an early demise” because CO2 had been declining since the last ice age, with barely enough for the earth’s plant life to sustain itself, until humanity stepped into the breach during the Industrial Revolution.
Anthropogenic global warming/climate change was the most obvious fake news until Russia Russia Russia and the Jussie Smollett hate crime came along. The so-called scientists involved might as convincingly just chant "acid is groovy, kill the SUVs!"

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Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 09, 2019 5:55 AM  

"CO2 is the food for life! It’s not pollution,” the would-be heretic declared, claiming that the use of fossil fuels had actually “saved life from an early demise” because CO2 had been declining since the last ice age, with barely enough for the earth’s plant life to sustain itself, until humanity stepped into the breach during the Industrial Revolution."

Oh hey look, someone escaped his delusion. Excellent!

Blogger Rick March 09, 2019 6:10 AM  

If you’re a rock solid normie, and you read this article, and then later on you learn for the first time about Q, Q doesn’t seem so outrageous.
Keep ‘em coming.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 March 09, 2019 6:19 AM  

The overwhelmingly most dire environmental problem is poverty population growth i.e, Population Change.

Endless amounts of land are being destroyed with trillions animals being killed in order to build more box stores, cheap housing, roads, etc.

Global warming has nothing to do with it.

Population Change is the pedophile stepdad and global warming is the monster in the closet used to distract the victim's attention.

Blogger McChuck March 09, 2019 6:28 AM  

When you hold witch hunts and ritual denunciations, it's not science.
When you call for the murder of your political opponents, it's politics, not science.

10:10 Climate Change "No Pressure"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS5CH-Xc0co

Blogger McChuck March 09, 2019 6:34 AM  

@3 StrongCoffee61 - Paging doctor Malthus. Doctor Malthus to the 'lack of perspective' desk.

The people overpopulating aren't in America (for the most part - build the wall!), and they don't pave roads or build box stores.

Blogger Rick March 09, 2019 6:39 AM  

Is it 1970 again already?!

Here’s one that hasn’t been tried yet:

Meanwhile, malls and retail stores across the fruited plain are going extinct at an alarming rate. Ten thousand sq feet per second...PER SECOND!
Won’t you please help?

Blogger Rick March 09, 2019 6:42 AM  

I’m starting to think Michael Crichton was rubbed out.

Blogger The Cooler March 09, 2019 6:48 AM  

muh rainforests

Blogger JACIII March 09, 2019 7:04 AM  

Scott Adams will be the last Global Warming proponent standing. He has some interesting perspectives re: persuasion, but he's a socialist to the core and likely a co-intel operation. His last serious (multi tech degrees MIT) guest eviscerated Climate Change and left the entrails on the floor. Next day Scott completely ignored the discussion and went right back to "97% of scientists" and "but if it IS true" and "trust science!". Somebody is putting money in Scott's pocket or he's a True Bernie Believer.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 09, 2019 7:16 AM  

In Singapore they have a video in the forest dome that showed the world being BBQ in 50 years or so.

Over fishing though is a problem, or depletion of marine life, something like that should be a focus. Even says so in Adam Smiths "Wealth of Nations", with English trawlers depleting Scottish waters.(now perhaps the reverse)

Blogger Rick March 09, 2019 7:27 AM  

It is a focus. A tremendous amount of treasure has been devoted to it over the past 3 decades to this problem. There’s only so much money the problem can take. They can’t think of new ways faster to burn it.

Blogger Rick March 09, 2019 7:30 AM  

Similarly, I believe it was VDH who wrote that the US Dept if Agriculture budget is actually larger that the value of the product the US agriculture industry produced. IIRC, an order of magnitude larger or at least several times larger.

Blogger Rick March 09, 2019 7:34 AM  

I believe this is the article:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2011/06/department-food-subsidies-victor-davis-hanson/

Blogger Longtime Lurker March 09, 2019 7:37 AM  

Some perspective: https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/clip_image0063.jpg

Blogger Gettimothy March 09, 2019 7:38 AM  

@10 a brain storm I have had for some years.
Have fish producers embed a genetic brand in the fish they produce. every catch marketed undergoes a simpke statistical analysis showin percentage of produced fish in catch. producers get a cut based on their contribution to the catch

Blogger Longtime Lurker March 09, 2019 7:43 AM  

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Blogger Gettimothy March 09, 2019 7:44 AM  

re climate scam, the heroes are the people, who via the internet released FOI.zip and bloggers like Climate Depot, Real Science, Judith Curry and Watts up with that.

Then add those tweeters and posters who propagate their work.

Open Source Take Down of a massive, government fraud.


Now, if the short for this world criminals in govt lied about this, then it is prudent to assume they always lie.

Blogger Longtime Lurker March 09, 2019 7:44 AM  

More Perspective: https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/younger_dryas_to_present_time_line1.png

Blogger Avalanche March 09, 2019 7:59 AM  

@15 "Have fish producers embed a genetic brand in the fish they produce."

'They' won't even require genetic testing to ensure the fish you just bought is ACTUALLY the fish species they advertised! "We" have fished out the higher-better fish stocks, so now they're catching (having renamed!) junk fish trying to make them appealing!

Don't you remember the "nutria" they tried to sell the U.S.?! Always known as swamp rats until they decided to try to make them into human food. "One of the biggest obstacles with nutria is that people think it's a rat, but it's not," says (the chef). "Nutria is a rodent, like a squirrel is a rodent."

Humans are vermin, the white-tailed deer with no predators overpopulating the world unto starvation and death!!

When Owen told Vox about lobsters having been prisoner food, I chuckled...
"Dirt-cheap because they were so copious, lobsters were routinely fed to prisoners, apprentices, slaves and children during the colonial era and beyond. In Massachusetts, some servants allegedly sought to avoid lobster-heavy diets by including stipulations in their contracts that they would only be served the shellfish twice a week."
https://www.history.com/news/a-taste-of-lobster-history

(oh, sorry, that's probably a sperge...)

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 09, 2019 7:59 AM  

@15 A simpler solution would be to have the waters locally owned. There was a war between Iceland and the UK called the "Cod Wars", the UK surrendered.

Was something on the news about English trawlers fishing for scallops in French waters, recently. Putting people in conflict. the whole lateral attack between people, divide and conquer.

Blogger nbfdmd March 09, 2019 7:59 AM  

I like Alex Epstein (author of The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels) on this subject. He brings a unique level of clarity that reminds me of the way other modern day philosophers, like Molyneux, think.

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 09, 2019 8:02 AM  

Over population is a problem almost exclusively confined to sub Saharan Africa. Everywhere else the birth rate is either at or well below replacement rates. Even the Arab muzzies are having vastly fewer children. So good news, we'll have billions more average 70 IQ black people who can' feed themselves....yay!

Developed nations are seeing increased levels of forestation, the exact opposite of what we're told. The cause of species loss in places like Australia is due to introduced species, particularly predators, not habitat loss. There's way, way more dense forest in Australia now that there was prior to European settlement. It definitely has fuck all to do with climate change.

Blogger Rick March 09, 2019 8:14 AM  

This is sciency:

If we distilled all of Michael Crichton’s hard work down to one pure thought it would sound just like: “Stop monkeying with stuff!”

Blogger nbfdmd March 09, 2019 8:17 AM  

@22: As time goes on, I worry less and less about the Muslims living in the Middle East. The ones that invaded Europe are another matter, of course. But at least the main line Muslims have a code they live by, their religion places a high value on cleanliness, female chastity, and patriarchy. In future, as VD has already pointed out, Christianity will go back to similar values, and Islam is holding up a mirror to Christendom to make that happen.

The real problem I see coming, and the problem that will make us nostalgic for the "good old days" when all we worried about were Muslims and Mexicans, will be the population explosion of sub-Saharan Africa. If they are able to expand to a population of 3+ BILLION ultra-low-IQ barbarians, the rest of the world is in trouble. We might be faced with a very ugly choice, and you know what I'm talking about so I won't say it.

So in the end, evolution (for those here who believe in it) may make its final judgment: It turns out, breeding does win out over intelligence, because intelligence has too much empathy. Whoops, there goes technological civilization.

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 8:22 AM  

"Anthropogenic global warming/climate change was the most obvious fake news until Russia Russia Russia and the Jussie Smollett hate crime came along."

I propose a survey...

man made global warming
Putin meddled
Israel meddled
China meddled
undocumented aliens meddled
911
Liberty
moon landing
the theory of evolution by natural selection
holocaust
holodomor
white(christian, western, caucasian) genocide through cultural memes and 4d warfare
injuns were slaughtered and fucked with for no reasons other than why not
anything ZOG does nationally or internationally is for EVIL purposes
Trump tried
Trump failed
Trump is fake

WTF is going on in this world? Am I living in a nightmare or is it real?

...well, you could add to it if you might wanna give it a go.
I should advise to make it a sliding scale input instead of a yes or no.

As to be completely clear, IMO the winner is...

The one


The undesputed


Holding the championship belt of the

ADL

The SPLS

The AJC


The American Congo!ress -a muslim afrikan

The Amerikan Seni!te

I present Yoooouuuu

The HOOOOLLLYYYCOOOST!!!!

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 09, 2019 8:22 AM  

@22 A lot of forest in Europe is pine, or in Portugal Eucalyptus, due in large part to subsides. I had heard in Norway there was a special subsidy for oak, for ships that was forgot about and maintained for hundreds of years, not sure how true. Can be a problem with forest fires in Portugal and driving out native species, I mean a tree uses a lot of water.

The east Africans anyway, are a lot like Maltesers.

Razorback is a good movie about a wild boar that kills people in Australia...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 09, 2019 8:23 AM  

Look at the Democratic party coalition and then put yourself in the place of a white midwit prog without a welfare office job, how are you going to attract that person to a coalition that can barely read cuz books is racis and shit?

Climate change BS allows those midwits a bit of snobbery.

Blogger McChuck March 09, 2019 8:30 AM  

@24 - The population explosion of Africa is why we need a navy and an air force. They can't bother us if they can't get here. Sink the ships. Shoot down the planes. (Well, don't send the planes. It's not like Africans can build planes.)

Blogger Robert What? March 09, 2019 8:38 AM  

Don't forget, many livelihoods depend on Global Warming being real. Questioning it is tantamount to threatening to slap the food out of their mouths.

Blogger tweell March 09, 2019 8:40 AM  

China is gearing up to take care of the Africa population crisis, all we need to do is stay out of it.

Blogger Solon March 09, 2019 8:41 AM  

Soon as I read this post I thought to myself "Global warming is the biggest scam in history? Oh boy, just wait til more people start looking in to details about the Holocaust..."

Blogger The Lab Manager March 09, 2019 8:44 AM  

The fact that AGW could be 'resolved' by looting me of more money was the first clue that this was a scam. Plus, not a one of these AGW proponents lives the life that they want the rest of us to live under their stupidity.

Blogger DangerSemiconductor March 09, 2019 8:48 AM  

McChuck wrote:@24 - The population explosion of Africa is why we need a navy and an air force. They can't bother us if they can't get here. Sink the ships. Shoot down the planes. (Well, don't send the planes. It's not like Africans can build planes.)

...that fly.

Here is a video documentary of Africans building a plane that can't fly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVqQKF7xgTQ

Blogger Silent Draco March 09, 2019 8:50 AM  

Avalanche, that's not quite a sperg, and thanks for the limited parentheses.

Junk fishing and crashed fish species are the result of 30+ years with the Dept. of Agriculture saying "red meat BAD, fish GOOD!" added to the sonar and radar gear used by fishing fleets. GO back to beef and pork for a while, and ignore the fake health warnings. Part of DA's food pyramid scheme, again. Take the pressure off for a few years, like the Atlantic striped bass, and the species will come back. That means using the Coast Guard to enforce fishery protection with 5"/54 and 40mm, with money taken from someone's pet program.

Lobsters - in colonial times, those were big bugs, some measured in feet long, and a lot of pounds. The big ones are tough and don't taste good, but the small ones in 1.25 - 2 lbs taste very good. When the artists and the unspeakably rich "discovered" Down East, they almost wiped out the species with the artificially induced demand. Lobsters were saved by local cooperatives working out what sizes to harvest, and protecting egg-laying females. Also helped that without Doppler sonar, no one back then could see where and when the hard-shells made their summer trek inshore. K-selection for the long-term win.

When global cooling hits and the first world harvests are reduced by short growing seasons or changed farming zones, sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia will be examples of r-selection for the loss. All the charity pleading will not overcome the "hardening of heart and spirit" to feed your own children first. Future history may cover the amazing sights on the Straits of Suez and Gibraltar.

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 8:55 AM  

Wanna see something funny?
I just about died first time I seed it 'nsheet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xJzAYYrX8

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 09, 2019 9:10 AM  

"Blackstronauts" :)

Blogger Lovekraft March 09, 2019 9:20 AM  

A revolving cycle of hammers to wear down the public's resistance and create a complicit underclass. The beneficiaries are the interest groups and their thousands of useful idiots.

Not sure of the veracity, but it stuck: a report in Breitbart a couple of years ago that exposed a 1970s conference in Hawaii that set this in motion.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 09, 2019 9:27 AM  

@31 The Holocaust was real, just like any other mass genocide.

I did have doubts about to the extent, or even if it happened(so many lies in the media). But after reading my grandfather's diary as a prisoner of war and seeing a similar account in Vicktor Frankel's "Man Search for Meaning". I'd have to conclude the events were real, the scale irrelevant.

He was to going to be transferred from a POW camp in East Germany to the Gas chambers at Leipzig, before the RAF bombed the rail system. I remember in both accounts of the "staff" being unusually helpful and friendly.

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 09, 2019 9:32 AM  

It's a mechanism to export heavy industry to the third world, simple as that. This is enormously profitable for the financial (((class))). It's hilarious watching some SJW retard ramble on about "carbon intensity" when the plan to reduce it involves moving aluminium production to China and India where they'll make it at smelters twice as inefficient as ours powered by electricity made from burning brown coal. And don't even get me started on electric cars.

If AGW was real we'd be in the middle of a nuclear power plant building boom. What's a little nuclear waste when the worlds about to end? Our betters are shutting down the nuclear industry while screaming about the imminent extinction of the human race? Yeah K.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 09, 2019 9:35 AM  

@3
StrongCoffee61
The overwhelmingly most dire environmental problem is poverty population growth i.e, Population Change

As @5 and @22 already pointed out -- where is that population growth occurring? Which peoples are still rapidly expanding? Certainly not the historical American nation, or any of the indigenous peoples of Europe...

Pic related:

World's Most Important Graph

More detail:
UN Boosts Its Population Forecast for Africa

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 09, 2019 9:42 AM  

@38 when I first learned about the Holocaust I was taught that 4 of the 6 million Jews died at Auschwitz. Since then the total number killed in the camp has been reduced to less than a million, with an unknown number being Jewish. Strangely though the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust has stayed at 6 million.

So while I agree that a lot of innocent Jews died in WW2 the 6 million number is obvious bullshit. I guess the worry is that if it turns out way more Poles died at the hands of the Nazis than Jews Holocaustianty would take something of a hit. Oy Vey, a calamity that can't be allowed.

Blogger Joe Smith March 09, 2019 9:53 AM  

To be fair to Moore, he's been against AGW nonsense since the beginning. While he was a Greenpeace guy, he was never an AGW guy. So... he was and is probably under a bunch of delusions, but AGW wasn't one of them.

Blogger Joe Smith March 09, 2019 9:58 AM  

I didn't know that the Dept. of Agriculture has a bigger budget than the actual value of the US Agriculture industry. That's hilarious.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 09, 2019 9:59 AM  

@41 A lot of Poles did die, some at the hands of the Russians. After the war some of the prisoners had managed to get a hold of cameras, or at least the photographs of Polish airmen being shot. Some had rigged up radios to listen to the BBC.

As I said the scale is irrelevant, I doubt the figures as well. I've heard that some Norwegians were buried in the foundations of the road moving Swedish steel and equipment. Slavery and neglect can absolutely be used as tools for evil. Like in N Korea, kill one half, keep the other half in the dark. The Oy Vey stuff is BS. As collectivists Jews are obviously being out done, by other groups now, potentially just as bad as a group, if not worse.

Blogger Gettimothy March 09, 2019 10:08 AM  

@20 When I commercial fished as a lad, I was told that the Tuna and Swordfish we went after travelled large areas of water. The swordfish we where catching varied from 50 to maybe 250 lbs. I have seen Tuna at ~1800 lbs.

That is what I was thinking of when I had my idea. I agree with you on local production and harvesting. It is our right and duty to prevent the tragedy of the commons in our waters.

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 09, 2019 10:09 AM  

Numbers are really, really important. 6 million is of enormous symbolic significance, to deny this is silly. 6 million of God's chosen people dying at the hands of the Hitler monster is an H-bomb rhetorical weapon that lays waste all before it. The Holocaust is the single greatest act of evil ever committed in the history of mankind, I don't know about you but this was drilled into me constantly from the time I took my first steps until present day.

Point out that the 6 million number is a wild exaggeration? Nazi. Point out that way, way more Ukrainian Christians were genocided by Jewish Bolsheviks? Antisemite. See how this works?

Blogger Bobiojimbo March 09, 2019 10:19 AM  

Smoke pot, brain rot.

Blogger JG March 09, 2019 10:25 AM  

No one ever mentions, during these stupid Holocaust discussions, that the Soviet Union lost 20 million killing off the Nazis. The Soviet Union won WWII in Europe, the USA helped a little; the Soviets did the heavy lifting.

Also seldom mentioned is that the Saudis fund many of the environmental groups in an attempt to stop fracking in other countries and keep the largess flowing to fund sending their Islamic hordes into the west and destroy Christianity.

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 10:26 AM  

I am particular to the thought behind:

If You suggest, that if there is a relatively small cabal of peeps, that have an overwhelming influence in the political/financial/cultural sphere of our life, and this phenomena has deep historical roots - you are a leftist.

...if You were to name the individuals pushing this agenda(current or historical) you are a Nazi

Blogger The Cooler March 09, 2019 10:29 AM  

you are a Nazi

Who were Leftists.

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 10:33 AM  

Hey Vessimede!

Would You do me a favor and watch this presentation? Give it 10 minutes. If it does not grab you, then it is not Your apple tree...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVSmf_qmkbg

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 10:39 AM  

To Mr Cooler...well, I would describe myself as a doode.

Nazi?

sure...everyone is a nazi these days...
kommie?: now that one I do not like - I am not a thief.

Blogger The Cooler March 09, 2019 10:44 AM  

WAT.

My point was that yours was unclear.

If You suggest, that if there is a relatively small cabal of peeps, that have an overwhelming influence in the political/financial/cultural sphere of our life, and this phenomena has deep historical roots - you are a leftist.

...if You were to name the individuals pushing this agenda(current or historical) you are a Nazi


What are you saying?

Blogger Spud March 09, 2019 10:45 AM  

Solon, I agree with that sentiment. I believe almost every lie today can some how be traced back to the holocaust. The most effective rhetorical device the world has ever seen.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 09, 2019 10:46 AM  

@46 @48
Becomes something like off the movie "The Frighteners" I got me a score.... I'd be more interested in who personally signed the most death warrants.

Well I suppose if the Carbon Cycle is allowed to run it's course or even manipulated away from CO2 production. It would be the greatest scam in history. Perhaps a kind of end of history event, no idea.

Yeah there's a lot of Ukrainians, that settled in Western Canada, as well as more recent S.Africans.

Without the equipment the USA supplied to the Soviets they may have well lost. No trucks, virtually no way of transporting stuff, could have killed piecemeal then. The Germans knew they were screwed when the USA entered the War, even talked about it openly.

The Soviets also killed the Cossacks as well, as referred to in the movie Golden Eye. Becomes almost a game of Trumps, who killed more.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 09, 2019 10:46 AM  

@25
Yeah.
It's not just the scale of the narrative, it's the way in which it has been sacralized and weaponized.
Holocaustianity is the ultimate source of moral authority in the current year -- far more so than Christianity. It almost serves as the founding myth for Western societies at this point.

Look at the way in which it serves as a template for marketing campaigns for neocon wars -- associative conditioning works. The target of "regime change" efforts is always anuddah Hitler, we're warned of the the dangers of so-called "isolationism," the need to intervene to save some sort of designated victim group from "chemical weapons," or "gas," or "concentration camps" (Serbs), etc.

On the domestic front, any opposition to Jewish supremacism -- or even any discussion of the power of the Israel lobby -- is clearly anuddah shoah all over again.

Then there's its use as a tool for shekel extraction -- see Norman Finkelstein's work, among others.

@27

Climate change BS allows those midwits a bit of snobbery.

Good point.

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 10:59 AM  

To Mr Cooler

As to Marxist theory, capitalists(owners of the means of production) are the culprits of our woes(fairly small n# of peeps)...so there is the "leftist" perspective...right?

He somehow left out of the capitalist "class" the peeps, that control/posess/store/issue/maintain and keep records on wealth accumulated.

If You name them, the statistix become a nightmare for some.

Aight?

Blogger Warunicorn March 09, 2019 11:01 AM  

Greenpeace was just the tip of the iceberg.

If I recall, Ann Coulter also took The Sierra Club to task in her book, "Adios America," over the illegal immigration issue. The Sierra Club was willing to look the other way when it came to illegals destroying our national parks and priceless artifacts so as long as they got their money from their special interest groups.

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 09, 2019 11:07 AM  

It's a boomer myth that's losing it's power. Talk to your average boomer about the Holocaust and it's 'Yes the most evilest act ever. Hitler was a Christian so all Christians are responsible. We can never let this happen again. Which of Israel's enemies are we invading this year?'

But that's changing and fast. The Iraq war happened which makes any war in the middle east unfeasible for any President looking to get re-elected, fake Syrian chemical attacks and all. Also Amerindian immigrants don't feel responsible for Hitler (who'd have thought?).

It's been an enormously effective piece of wizardry, it's no accident that AGW skeptics are called climate change deniers, but present day, and for the average normie, being called a racist is way worse than being called antisemitic.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 09, 2019 11:14 AM  

Globalists hate life. This is news?

Also, CO2 is one of the weakest greenhouse gases. Venus' high surface temperature is due mainly to its 90-bar atmosphere.

Blogger Lazarus March 09, 2019 11:23 AM  

Judith Curry of Climate Etc. testimony in Congress

Climate Heretic testimony

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 11:25 AM  

To Mr Vessimede:

I would argue...imagine...

Back when, there was an incredible movement in the States against involving ourselves in what became WWII

There were immense sympathies by German populations(huge %), wemmens(marches against conscrition of their man), the Church, etc, etc, etc...

Roose(feld)welt NEEDED Pearl Harbour to turn the tide...

...as 911 was also "needed" alas PNAC...

We is stupid vulnerable internet or not.
I would hope less so now, since those, that would rather know can do so - but how about the ones, that would rather NOT know?

I would estimate them the majority.

How about You?

Blogger The Cooler March 09, 2019 11:25 AM  

@57 Aight?

No, but never mind. There's either a language barrier here, you are a moron, or both.

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 11:34 AM  

Now ya jes being meen...

Doode, I got zhe time. I shall...what hurtz?

:-)

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 09, 2019 11:42 AM  

Do people here think that the Holocaust is a myth or scam then? From the comments, I don't see anyone who thinks it was real.

Although why it should be a bigger scam than Global Warming, I don't see the Logic.

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 11:57 AM  

@ 1st Earl Hardwicke

Funny You ask...

Have You ever looked into the details of that genocide?

As to how?

It seems, this particular even in history can not be disputed. It is illegal to do so in civilized countries/clubs.

and growing from this one issue is growing a list of other taboos

-sodomites
-sexes(genders...)


...remember, back when I was fartsmeller, I axd my daddio what was israel. 'Cos it was in the news every day.

I got to my almanac, looked it up, and was astonished.

I mean WTF?

Place not much larger than my pissbowl gets news coverage every day of the week? During the cold war'n'sheet?

Then...it got complicated...as you know...:-)

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 09, 2019 12:03 PM  

Only the most committed Alt Retard thinks Hitler did nothing wrong. Yes hundreds of thousands of Jews died during WW2. Mainly via starvation through war induced famine but also in work/concentration camps and pogroms on the eastern front (Germans considered Jews to be natural Bolshevik sympathizers and so a threat to their occupation).

Btw did you know the Eisenhower outright murdered around a million German POWs through forced starvation during the early days of the allied occupation of Germany? Did you know that at least 4 million Germans died of starvation due to Truman's policy of denying food exports into occupied territories? Oy Vey indeed.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 09, 2019 12:04 PM  

I heard about this. Greenpeace, bunch of hippies they are, do one thing that no American environazi ever did: actually put themselves in harm's way. Greenpeace put themselves between whale and harpoon. They even got fired on by other ships at one point.
American environmentalism is having an SUV, a house with central air, 2 kids and garbage cans full of diapers, and supporting someone like Al Gore or AOC becuase of "guilt".

There are times though when it seems like there is a kind of spirit behind fantasy that tries to tell us about reality. But it's not very powerful when you consider that it requires people to think. I kept seeing these "Winter is coming" banner ads for GoT and I'm no fan of that show since I don't like medieval settings with post-modern mindsets. I have never seen an entire episode. I watch the "fight breakdowns" on the toob where swordplay is the topic.
So I looked into this "winter is coming" thing, and noted that if the leftists get their way with C02, they will bring a second ice age. They also want socialism, which is a murder machine. So that's the world they are after: a frozen waste full of death. And we don't have any rapists... uh... sorry couldn't help it.... blondes with dragons on hand.

Blogger Spud March 09, 2019 12:14 PM  

I don't think there was a systematic killing of Jewish prisoners by gassing. There is literally no evidence that this occurred. I believe a massive amount of people died, mostly non Jewish but still a large amount of Jewish due to disease and starvation. The Nazis built machines to pump gas into delousing chambers and then cycle the gas out yet they killed prisoners by dropping canisters into rooms and waited patiently for the gas to dissipate? The Nazis were despicable but I don't see any evidence of the holocaust as it is currently defined. Remember, the katyn massacre was also blamed on the Germans until if was officially debunked and Russia took blame in the 90s.

Blogger Lance E March 09, 2019 12:19 PM  

Patrick Moore has always been vocally opposed to the modern delusions of the enviro-communist movement. I think he even appeared in one of the Penn and Teller episodes in the 90s to talk about it.

It's great that he speaks out, but don't take this as evidence that the group we call "environmentalists" today has changed one iota. He's not one of them.

Blogger nbfdmd March 09, 2019 12:37 PM  

@28: Here's the problem: Africa will be emigrating tens of millions of "refugees" per year without breaking a sweat. Do any Western nations have the wherewithal to kill millions of people? So far, the answer has been "no, we'd rather be raped".

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 12:40 PM  

I am incompetent I have to admit. I am below standard for you to read anything by.

Yes.

I have put in the largest and most capable search engine known by the plebs(which I am part of if they have me) about the the movement of the our gals(wimmin) to keep the US out of the conflict brewing against Germany back when.

I defanately remember reading somewhere, that there was an ORGANISED party by thems wimmins a million or so strong to oppose us entering the festivities.

They have marched, met up, published, evangelized and did everything short of taking up arms.

That is no nuttn.

Can anyone find a trace of them wimminz on zhe innernets?

I will send You a heartfelt spacibo.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 09, 2019 12:42 PM  

Rhetoric does not equal scam. Otherwise, most of Vox's books would be scams.

Starvation and dysentery I suppose are the main ones. Lock people in a camp and leave them there. Then disposing of evidence(witnesses) or just killing POWs for the sake of it. Lock people in a shed and set fire to it, multiple ways don't need the German efficiency or cleanliness in a pinch. Anyone I guess who could finger them as part of the system, unless they could get a pardon/free-pass like the Japanese chemical weapons scientists or German Rocket Scientists. German cities being mostly rubble, and Hundreds of thousands of civilians killed. Might be why there are so many vegetable gardens and cigarette machines.

People died because the winter was one of the coldest on record and were already weakened. If you're desperate enough or so inclined cannibalism or eating horses & pets, I guess would see you through. I think more people died in the British sector, being on rationing themselves.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club March 09, 2019 12:54 PM  

@11 - That's not the problem all that USDA money's going to: "The mandatory budget authority increases above 2010 are due primarily to an anticipated increase in nutrition assistance program participation, and the impact of the Recovery Act on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program foodcosts."

"Nutrition assistance" is 70% of the USDA outlays.

Blogger Didas Kalos March 09, 2019 1:04 PM  

is this what as meant by "Science is self correcting?" or is that just a cliche evolutionist use to make excuses for men in white lab coats and professors making stuff up?

Blogger NO GOOGLES March 09, 2019 1:04 PM  

@9
I give the man a little slack. We're literally drowning in an ocean of fraud from every conceivable angle and it takes time to learn the truth (or at least get a pretty good idea what is BS and what is not). No man has the time and diligence to learn the truth of EVERY SINGLE ISSUE so everyone will end up being a normie about SOMETHING.

The biggest issue for climate is the solar grand minimum. It's likely to be as bad as the Maunder minimum and if it ends up being worse it's going to be very cold for a very long time.

Blogger NO GOOGLES March 09, 2019 1:10 PM  

@67
Re: Truman starving people
That's a weird way to assign blame. You'd think you'd assign blame to the actual authority that confiscated their food and ruled over them instead of a foreign country that didn't have authority over them. The Soviets starved those people because they didn't have the logistics to feed their men once the war was over. It took more than a year for the Soviets to become self sufficient enough to stop confiscating civilian food supplies (this still continued sporadically for another year and a half though). And yet you're trying to blame Truman because he didn't feed the people the Soviets robbed?

If someone is under your authority and you take their food and they starve, you are responsible. It's not Jim down the street's fault because he didn't bring sandwiches.

Blogger SciVo March 09, 2019 1:21 PM  

1st Earl Hardwicke wrote:Over fishing though is a problem, or depletion of marine life, something like that should be a focus. Even says so in Adam Smiths "Wealth of Nations", with English trawlers depleting Scottish waters.(now perhaps the reverse)

It's classic "tragedy of the commons." I once had a class with an ex-Coast Guard guy who said that he had spent most of his time defending the Alaskan fisheries from Russian factory ships that were always lurking right over the border, since they'd long ago extinguished their own fisheries.

And my understanding (which I admittedly cannot point to evidence for) is that you can pretty much draw a straight line from Somalia failing as a state, to its fisheries being undefended from foreign depredation, to its coastal waters being overfished to exhaustion and collapse, to Somalis with boats turning to piracy instead.

If only we were as committed to defending our people as our fish...

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 09, 2019 1:21 PM  

As a matter of policy Truman withheld food aid to the German occupied territories. This was (and was seen at the time) an act of revenge and spite on his part. It was only after a public outcry and the intervention of Senators and Congressmen that he agreed to lift the ban. Meantime millions of people, including children, died horrible and slow deaths.

Btw I'm not holding Eisenhower or Truman (someone who also ordered the nuking of Japan after they'd already surrendered) as being some particularly awful example of war criminal. No what they did, as depraved and immoral as it was, is common place in war. But it does show how ridiculous holding Hitler's treatment of the Jews as something unprecedented in human history.

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 1:24 PM  

If someone is under your authority and you take their food and they starve, you are responsible. It's not Jim down the street's fault because he didn't bring sandwiches.


You must b joking. No Seriously.

Other losses by James Bacque

Read it...if you don't want to deny an other Holocaust.

You DO want to bring all unhumanity to light dont'cha?

there is that, about Eisenhower...

But...I will go further.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neVZYotznwo


Your turn...

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 09, 2019 1:27 PM  

@73
I suppose...
I guess...
Might be...
I guess...
I think

I see.

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 09, 2019 1:28 PM  

The documenting of the suffering and privations of the German people during the occupation, the mass killings and rapes the deliberate starvation, is seen as antisemitic. We cannot discuss these matters as it may cheapen the memory of the Holocaust.

Blogger NO GOOGLES March 09, 2019 1:32 PM  

@41
That was one of the first red pills I ever got. When I was a kid they were still teaching that 4 million were killed at Auschwitz, almost all of them Jews. Years later I was reading about WWII and came upon a mention of 1 million being killed at Auschwitz. That confused me so I looked it up. Yes, the current number they claim is 1 million. You can even look it up on Wikipedia - one of the most obvious "read between the lines" moments I've ever had.

There's a table on the wiki page showing a breakdown of the death count. It has two columns - registered deaths, and Unregistered deaths, and each row is a different group. For every group except one, the registered number is the vast majority with only a small percentage being "unregistered". 75 to 90% of all deaths were registered for every group except Jews. For Jews, there were 95000 registered deaths, and 865,000 "unregistered" deaths.

So for the non-Jew who was killed at Auschwitz, only 12% were not registered. But for Jews, slightly more than 90% were killed without being registered.

Blogger Vessimede Barstool March 09, 2019 1:41 PM  

There's the lampshades and leather products made out of Jewish victims skin. The soap made out of Jewish fat. Pulling all their gold teeth out to make the Nazi gold they took to South America after the war. There was the roller coaster of death, famously dubbed the Holocoaster, an electric cart system that transported the Jews from the trains straight to the gas ovens and then on for cremation. The Nazis were a mixture of German meticulousness mixed with hilariously over the top James Bond villain creativeness. Except they forgot to write down any of their Jewish victims names, the gays and Gypsies and commies, yes they wrote all their's down, but not the Jews.....because reasons.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 09, 2019 1:48 PM  

@58

If I recall, Ann Coulter also took The Sierra Club to task in her book, "Adios America," over the illegal immigration issue. The Sierra Club was willing to look the other way when it came to illegals destroying our national parks and priceless artifacts so as long as they got their money from their special interest groups.

(((David Gelbaum))) donated $100 million to the Sierra Club in 2004 -- with the condition that the club never speak out about the adverse environmental effects of the ongoing invasion, or try to oppose or limit it in any way.

Sierra Club $100M Donation

In the past couple of years, the Sierra Club has moved from taking no position on immigration to actively supporting illegal invaders:

Sierra Club Immigration Policy

It's not clear whether that's just empty "virtue signaling," or whether it's in response to another bribe.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 09, 2019 1:54 PM  

Vessimede Barstool wrote:Only the most committed Alt Retard thinks Hitler did nothing wrong.

Killing oodles of jews was wrong, but getting his own nation slaughtered and enslaved was wronger. The jews were a foreign nation, not Adolph's people - they shouldn't have been in his country. The German people were Adolph's people, and he led them to disaster.

Hitler accomplished terrible evil. Killing six gorrillion jooooos was trivial stuff compared to what he did to his own.

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 1:54 PM  

The greatest maritime loss of life in one time:

Titanic.

Check.

Nature against manmade: nature wins: Check.

Number of victims: circa 1500...god save their
souls...

check.

Wilhelm Gussloff...not so check

Man against man...yah

Victims: @8000

Movie produced...naaaah

opals dropped in ocean...

unknown...

Blogger Lucas Evans March 09, 2019 2:09 PM  

The holocaust is the only genocide with no bodies. Supposedly they were all burned to ash to hide the evidence. Well then, there should be mountains of ash, both from the bodies and the coal used to power the ovens. No ash pits have ever been found.

Cremation is actually a terribly inefficient way of disposing of a body. Try it, take a blow torch and try to reduce some chicken bones to ash. See how long it takes and how much fuel you use. Then remember human bones are much denser and coal never gets as hot as a blue torch flame.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 09, 2019 2:12 PM  

"is this what as meant by "Science is self correcting?" or is that just a cliche evolutionist use to make excuses for men in white lab coats and professors making stuff up?"

The latter.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 09, 2019 2:28 PM  

@81 Fine then enlighten me. Or stop trolling.

Registering deaths; if present say I. I have heard of Teutonic behaviour, but that's just ridiculous.

As to the books or individuals that have blown the lid on a Jewish Cabal conspiracy, that plotted to kill Germans for the sake of it.

Why should Germany be an exception to any other nation that has carried out genocides. In fact didn't "The Peasants Rebellion" kill the highest proportion of a national population then any other war in history. Am I to take it that Germans have less free will, than the norm.

Really, no one apart from me here thinks the holocaust was real, I did doubt, but given two accounts I've read; should be exceptions and not the rule?

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 09, 2019 2:41 PM  

SciVo wrote:It's classic "tragedy of the commons." I once had a class with an ex-Coast Guard guy who said that he had spent most of his time defending the Alaskan fisheries from Russian factory ships that were always lurking right over the border, since they'd long ago extinguished their own fisheries.

And my understanding (which I admittedly cannot point to evidence for) is that you can pretty much draw a straight line from Somalia failing as a state, to its fisheries being undefended from foreign depredation, to its coastal waters being overfished to exhaustion and collapse, to Somalis with boats turning to piracy instead.

If only we were as committed to defending our people as our fish...


If only...

Interesting story. I suppose a bit like depleting the Aral sea. Or USA agriculture and population depleting the aquifers and Lake Mead. There ever any good news in the news, or world at large.

Tolerance as a virtue, not sure what that even means as a value of the West.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 09, 2019 3:20 PM  

1st Earl Hardwicke wrote:Really, no one apart from me here thinks the holocaust was real, I did doubt, but given two accounts I've read; should be exceptions and not the rule?

Real-ish. Certainly a bunch of jews died. So did a whole lot of others. Of all the people who died in that war, why should I care about one group of hostile strangers more than another? There were people related to me who died in that war. There were Christian nations involved. Why should I care about jews to the exclusion of them?

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 3:22 PM  

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Blogger tc March 09, 2019 3:26 PM  

Enter a search for:

british concentration camps in south africa

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FZrBnQiDxOwg%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZrBnQiDxOwg&docid=k819nxeFbAaU0M&tbnid=XTMLnM4PIUC44M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwj2g9bG8fXgAhVNMewKHWPFAt4QMwg3KAIwAg..i&w=1280&h=720&bih=695&biw=1366&q=british%20concentration%20camps%20in%20south%20africa&ved=0ahUKEwj2g9bG8fXgAhVNMewKHWPFAt4QMwg3KAIwAg&iact=mrc&uact=8

Blogger tublecane March 09, 2019 3:29 PM  

Biggest scam in history is a large claim, though maybe because with other historically profitable falsehoods we don't know how much was fraud and how much mistake. Global Warming we know for certain was full of lies.

My personal experience of Global Warming hysteria reached its height in the summer (always summer, wasn't it?) of '08. That was a couple years after An Inconvenient Truth, and there was a massive amount of propaganda a-churnin'. Then the first major PR reversal, "climategate," came next year. And I read the Hockeystick Illusion the year after that. Neither of which stopped the scam, but it wasn't an article of faith anymore.

The propaganda machine still churned, but it takes more and more effort to get it up. Especially when they can't help blaming literally everything on Global Warming. Even Social Justice is adaptable and changes its tactics now and again. The Climate Scam is just "X happened; give me money because climate."

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 3:31 PM  

OTOH, you might want to do a a search for the images.

https://www.google.com/search?q=british+concentration+camps+in+south+africa&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4juy08fXgAhUS_CoKHSJ3C9oQ_AUIDigB&biw=1366&bih=695

Concentration camps?

OK.

Anything in particular?

Blogger tublecane March 09, 2019 3:36 PM  

@27- So did Nü Atheism for a while, though that's on the decline.

Shortly before nearly burning his own house down, Homer Simpson was heard to say: "Everyone is stupid except me." That's the attitude.

Blogger tublecane March 09, 2019 3:50 PM  

@88- Yeah, I always wondered where the bodies are. A giant international scandal rumbled over the Katyn Massacre for decades and that was just about tens of thousands of bodies. How many Katyn gravesites should be famous Holocaust pilgrimage sites? We're talking millions of bodies.

This doesn't bother many people. They don't want to think of it from that angle. To them it's more like 6 million died and the remains must be somewhere, who cares where exactly?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 09, 2019 4:20 PM  

@90
@81 Fine then enlighten me.

I made my point pretty clearly. But if you need it explained in more detail, I'm always happy to assist -- no one cares about your "guesses," your "suppositions," your feelz, etc.

You're attempting to put forth vague, constantly-shifting speculations with respect to Jewish civilian casualties during WW2. Irrelevant. What matters is:

1. Are you able to make any specific, potentially-falsifiable claims with respect to Jewish casualties during WW2?

2. If so, what are those specific claims, and what documentary and forensic evidence can you cite to support them?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 09, 2019 4:36 PM  

@90
Registering deaths; if present say I. I have heard of Teutonic behaviour, but that's just ridiculous.

Your syntax appears to be a little garbled here, but if I'm parsing it correctly:
1. Registering deaths is a normal procedure in any advanced society -- you realize that, right?

2. One more time -- it's sometimes helpful to have an elementary knowledge of the subject at hand before engaging in meaningless speculation.

3. Just do a search for "Sterbebücher von Auschwitz" or "Leichenhallenbuch" -- both of which were captured largely intact by the Soviets.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 09, 2019 4:42 PM  

Francis Parker Yockey, here is a specific, falsifiable claim: I care less about Jewish casualties during WWII than I care about most other nation's casualties.

Can any non-Jew legitimately see it otherwise?

Blogger eclecticme March 09, 2019 4:42 PM  

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Blogger eclecticme March 09, 2019 4:43 PM  

This Vox column was linked on http://directorblue.blogspot.com/.
I don't often see that. I thought he was an unperson to mainstream conservatives. Maybe I was wrong.

Manhattan Contrarian has a series on The Greatest Scientific Fraud of All Time. Also on the folly of 'green' energy. They are short, sweet, and quantitative.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 09, 2019 4:45 PM  


3. Just do a search for "Sterbebücher von Auschwitz" or "Leichenhallenbuch" -- both of which were captured largely intact by the Soviets.

That's the same Soviet Union that was demonizing Germans and Nazis.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 09, 2019 5:31 PM  

@ Francis Parker Yockey. The fact that your username has Adolf Hitler as a hero on Wikipedia is all I need to know.

I made zero reference to any Jewish casualties. You are a liar, you can go follow the fate of your patron, with your patronising behaviour and social justice BS.

Blogger SciVo March 09, 2019 5:46 PM  

Vessimede Barstool wrote:The documenting of the suffering and privations of the German people during the occupation, the mass killings and rapes the deliberate starvation, is seen as antisemitic. We cannot discuss these matters as it may cheapen the memory of the Holocaust.

Indeed, it is the creepy code of silence around provable horrors that drives my ever-deepening distrust of Holocaustianity and its hucksters. Honest men don't need to shut up other people.

Blogger sammibandit March 09, 2019 6:26 PM  

An occupied state doesn't permit the occupied nationals to present nationalistic information. Why be surprised?

Blogger NO GOOGLES March 09, 2019 6:27 PM  

@91
Registering deaths has been common procedure for literally centuries in the West (and is not limited to the West either).

You're also demonstrating a classic rhetorical trick - the dichotomy of "you either agree with me 100% or 0%". I imagine most posters here think the Holocaust happened. It is a question of how it happened and how many were killed. This isn't a new controversy - nor is it one that is settled even if the "status quo" says it is. After all, it wasn't conspiracy theorists or neo-nazis that revised the death toll at Auschwitz down to just 25% of what was originally claimed.

I think the Nazis killed a great many people, jews included. Hitler was the ruin of his nation and his people and is still used as justification for those who would deny the Germans their due or their nation.

I doubt very seriously there was ever millions of people gassed. Maybe some thousands, maybe even tens of thousands. It is physically impossible that millions were cremated down to the point were no remains can be found. As bad as the Holocaust was it seems greatly exaggerated in some respects (lampshades with human skin and other fairy tales) and even though it is not particularly unique compared with many other genocides in the 20th century it STILL used as a cudgel to prevent any criticism of (((certain))) groups.

None are ever discredited by being accused of hating Armenian Christians, Ukrainian Kulaks, or rural Chinese even though those groups were victimized in similar numbers and there is no controversy about those genocides.

Blogger tc March 09, 2019 7:19 PM  

"Hitler was the ruin of his nation"

Ya know man, I think.
Or at least I lie to myself and wonder about sheet.

Now...was Mr Hitler really all that?
I do not think so. He was dealt a bad hand.

He bluffed.

...but was rolled by the bank.

some folks got excited over it...

...lesson n#1 chill doode!

N#2: move

N#3: shoot a kommie b4 breakfast...

jeskiddingnowhamsayin....el oh ell...

Please, no mo genocides.
Let us start this millennia by restricting our most entertaining nature.

kool it brathaz...

Blogger JAG March 09, 2019 11:39 PM  

Climate Change or the Obama Presidency. Either one is the biggest scam in American history. With Obama we had a gay, illegal alien POTUS with a transsexual "wife", and children borrowed from Democrat elites.

Not really sure which has been more damaging to be honest. Climate Change is seen for what it is by even some not of the right side of the aisle, while too many still believe Obama was legit.

Blogger Duke Norfolk March 10, 2019 5:19 AM  

Joe Smith wrote:To be fair to Moore, he's been against AGW nonsense since the beginning.

Yeah, he's been railing against it for years now. I paid a lot of attention to the whole thing back in '09-'11 (thereabouts) as I really looked into it and realized the scam.

I don't pay any attention any more. And I'm amazed that sites like Watts Up With That continue on the beat with such fervor.

Kudos to them for staying in the fight, but it's gotta get boring, day after day after day; the same arguments over and over. They are a bunch of Boomertards though.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 10, 2019 1:58 PM  

@101
Francis Parker Yockey, here is a specific, falsifiable claim: I care less about Jewish casualties during WWII than I care about most other nation's casualties.

Well... if I were to sperg about it, I might point out that, since its truth or falsehood is dependent on my perception of your internal emotional state...

But point taken -- neither of us ever gassed any Jews in fake shower rooms, let alone converted any of them into
household furniture or cleaning products. What relevance does this narrative about events 75 years ago in a foreign country -- regardless of the degree of its factual basis -- have to us... or to any American in the current year?

@103
That's the same Soviet Union that was demonizing Germans and Nazis.

Which is largely why those are useful primary sources -- admission against interest. No incentive for the Soviets to forge documents that conflict with the narrative.

@105
I made zero reference to any Jewish casualties.

Fact check:

FALSE

See:

@65
Do people here think that the Holocaust is a myth or scam then

@90
Really, no one apart from me here thinks the holocaust was real

Etc.

Or perhaps you were unaware that the term "holocaust" -- especially when capitalized -- has been widely used since the 1970s to reference the standard narrative of Jewish cvilian casualties during WW2? Did you intend to use it in its original, literal sense of "burnt offering?" Are you attempting to claim -- for example -- that the firebombing of Dresden had some sort of... religious significance? Very strange.

Anyway... your continued pathetic inability to reduce your constantly-shifting, emotionally-based speculations to anything even approaching a coherent, specific claim -- let alone offer the merest speck of empirical evidence in support of that claim -- is yet again noted.

Go back to watching your teevee.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 10, 2019 2:27 PM  

Just to return to the original topic:
even if we accept the anthropogenic global warming hypothesis for the sake of argument, there's one notable aspect of this that seems rather odd -- the diagnosis is always tied to a specific treatment. Reducing CO2 by deindustrializing Western countries is promoted as the only potential pathway to a cure.

No one even suggests other potential courses of action to mitigate the putative warming effects of human-produced greenhouse gases. Can't even consider (for instance) any engineering solutions to increase the Earth's albedo. Sure, this type of solution would do nothing to address potential ocean acidification, but warming is always presented as the primary problem, and there are multiple potential pathways to affect that. But it's gotta be CO2 or nothing.

Coincidentally (or not), reducing CO2 emissions requires a lot of centralized control/ monitoring. And "carbon credits" -- a new financial instrument! Gotta love that. I can see the derivatives already...

The so-called scientists involved might as convincingly just chant "acid is groovy, kill the SUVs!"

Though the MacDonald case has some weird aspects on both sides -- especially the Helena Stoeckley angle, and the heroin smuggling through Fort Bragg.

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