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Thursday, March 28, 2019

Jewish humor isn't

Owen Benjamin is absolutely right. What passes for Jewish so-called humor isn't funny at all. I've never found Mel Brooks, Jerry Seinfeld, Larry David, Sarah Silverman, Adam Sandler, Gene Wilder, or Lenny Bruce to be even modestly amusing. Jewish "humor" is nothing more than a degenerate combination of whining, moral and cultural transgressivism, narcissistic posturing, and sexual obsession. It's so relentlessly stupid that it is borderline retarded.

Is it funny to urinate on a picture of the Holocaust? No, that's just stupid, disrespectful, and transgressive. And it's equally stupid to think it's hilarious to "accidentally" urinate on a picture of Jesus Christ. In fact, all that is necessary to demonstrate the intrinsically idiotic unfunniness of Jewish humor is to change a word or two in their jokes.

Everybody blames the Germans for the Holocaust, and then the Germans try to pass it off on the Nazis. I'm one of the few people who believes it was the blacks. I don't care. Good. I hope the Germans did do the Holocaust. I'd do it again. I'd fucking do it again in a second.
- Sarah Silverman

Ha very ha. The routine is not unfunny because it's offensive, it's simply not a funny construction in the first place. Of course, it will be amusing to see people start flipping out when the Holocaust is treated as a punchline, as it will be given the increasing absurdity of the Holocaustianity being imposed upon yet another generation that neither knows nor cares about a long-dead war that never had anything to do with them or their forebears. And why should anyone treat a historical event with any respect whatsoever, especially from a secular or scientific perspective, in the first place? It would make more sense to build Jurassic Memorial Centers around the world mourning the loss of the dinosaurs.

The reason that comedy is dying is because it was taken over by subversives, and subversives are intrinsically parasitical in nature. They can't build, create, or even sustain anything on their own. It's like trying to maintain the financial sector on the basis of nothing except finance.

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Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 28, 2019 6:10 PM  

DonReynolds wrote:Basically, there is the English humor and German humor and Negro humor.

You defined the first two. Let's hear your definition of the third?

Blogger The Masked Menace March 28, 2019 6:12 PM  

I agree Mel Brooks, Jerry Seinfeld, Larry David, Sarah Silverman, Adam Sandler, Gene Wilder, or Lenny Bruce are/were not funny.

However I admit when I was young I really thought Bud Abbott and Jerry Lewis were funny.

Blogger tublecane March 28, 2019 6:30 PM  

@147- The Princess Bride is a parody, but it doesn't crankily subvert childhood medieval fantasy. Not for me, anyway. Which I know because I can remember responding to it as a child the way I would genuine fantasy. With humor in top.

The movie came out when I was five, I think. I recall as the greatest outburst of laughter in any moviegoing experience my audience's reaction to "marriage."

Blogger tublecane March 28, 2019 6:40 PM  

@201- The essence of Black Humor is the spontaneous clownishness of black folk. Looking past their instinct for crime and manner of faults, that is.

Have you ever seen them react to magic tricks? It's precious. The way that they dance, their street patois, the fashion, the sports they're good at...it's all about showing off in the moment. Good black comedians have the gift of gab, and they're good on their feet.

If they're half-white, they can also write. Like Key and Peele.

Blogger Teleport me off this rock March 28, 2019 6:50 PM  

Interesting that the focus of the coments is mostly movies and stand-up. A lot of the Jewish subversion-through-putative-comedy came on the small screen, especially most of the "socially progressive" sitcoms America was bombarded with in the 70's.

Blogger ash March 28, 2019 6:55 PM  

I'm not sure if I agree with this. Ive always found certain Jewish comedians quite funny - though not the subversive ones (except for Jeff Ross.)

But nobody will ever hold a candle to the departed Mitch Hedberg. He alone deserves a few memorial centers.

Blogger DonReynolds March 28, 2019 6:55 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:DonReynolds wrote:Basically, there is the English humor and German humor and Negro humor.

You defined the first two. Let's hear your definition of the third?


Negro humor is more English than German, but with a strong play on the self-depreciating fool and plenty of profanity and vulgarity (with the exception of Bill Cosby). They have been permitted more explicit sex in their public humor. My favorite examples would be Redd Foxx and Chris Rock.

Blogger Avalanche March 28, 2019 6:58 PM  

@189 Milo on Princess Bride: "I freely admit that the human emotion known as "love" eludes my understanding."

I wonder if, now that he's happily in love and 'married,' his opinion could have changed. Maybe someone should tie Milo to a chair and force him to watch it again?

Blogger Dave Dave March 28, 2019 7:08 PM  

I grew up on Rowan Atkinson and Monty Python, so the low level Jew humour has never interested me. Jews can do parody, which involves creative theft, or they can do subversion. Jews are like private school boys. Nobody likes them, everyone sees immediately that they're not that smart, and nobody thinks they're remote lot important. This might just be because Jews are literally private school boys.

Blogger stevo March 28, 2019 7:10 PM  

For me it had a lot to do with being 14 at the time

Blogger SirHamster March 28, 2019 7:16 PM  

Avalanche wrote:I wonder if, now that he's happily in love and 'married,' his opinion could have changed. Maybe someone should tie Milo to a chair and force him to watch it again?

Listen to BB. Sodomy ain't love.

Blogger James Dixon March 28, 2019 7:18 PM  

> ...one of my all time favorite comedians is the late Tim Wilson.

See, I knew we agreed about something. Now all I need to do is find a Scotch you can tolerate. :)

Blogger DonReynolds March 28, 2019 7:35 PM  

Dave Dave wrote:I grew up on Rowan Atkinson and Monty Python, so the low level Jew humour has never interested me. Jews can do parody, which involves creative theft, or they can do subversion.

Jewish comedy is an important subpart of German humor. The Three Stooges are my favorite example. But even when they abandon the clowning and slapstick and try to appeal to the English humor audience....like Danny Kay or Jackie Mason, their most powerful deliveries are ridicule and mocking and manic depressive duality. Much like the actors Jim Carey, or Bill Murray, or Steve Martin, or Robin Williams.

Blogger Terrific March 28, 2019 7:44 PM  

Two things humor is based on are shock and surprise. So what do you do when nothing shocks or surprises your audience?

It wasn't funny exactly, but back in 1937, when Rhett Butler told Scarlet O'hara, "Frankly, Scarlet, I don't give a damn," audiences went into shock and women fainted. Today we have five year olds in movies saying far worse than "damn" and nobody's laughing. Except the film makers.

Blogger sammibandit March 28, 2019 7:51 PM  

The most German humor I've seen is on American Dad where Claus is explaining Das Boot to Steve and Snot and how you have to know many different stories to appreciate it. I laugh so hard at that storyline because I've had moments where someone said to me, What? You've never heard x story? :proceeds to interrupt themself to tell it:

The pedagogical part of humor and storytelling is so German. Like feeling the innate need to explain a joke just after you told it. I've done some informal surveys of ethnic Germans and it's pretty standard.

Blogger tublecane March 28, 2019 8:22 PM  

@215- You remind me of a conversation amongst Simpsons writers I heard once, I think including Conan O'Brien. Each had separately been instructed by the older generation to tell a joke, then tell the same joke again. People eat that up, I guess, because they like to feel in on it, and they want to share with others. If the joke goes by too quickly, even if you "got it," you didn't have time to enjoy it. Which can make it feel like it didn't happen.

This is one of the reasons people enjoy "callbacks," when comedians allude to jokes made earlier.

The Simpsons guys were puzzled by this advice. And it shows, because their episodes have dozens of little jokes you can easily miss. But it works because they're on endlessly in reruns, and people can live the jokes over and over.

Boomer comedians were always talking about the New Comedy, or whatever terms they used. As if a sea change had occurred. I never knew what they meant, unless it was that they didn't use structured jokes anymore. Basically Stephen Wright and Mitch Hedberg were the only ones doing that in my lifetime.

Maybe what they meant was that the Jews took over. But of course they had been prominent in entertainment already.

Blogger eclecticme March 28, 2019 8:35 PM  

Humor is very subjective.

I have not watched much humor in recent times. I have watched Owen Bewnjamin and like him. Very funny. "Tighter!" I remember when SNL was funny. My dad had a book of Jewish (or Yiddish?) humor in the basement. I loved it. He even told me a very cleaned up version of The Aristocrats as a kid.

I saw Henny Youngman in person maybe 30 years ago. I laughed until I cried. I could hardly catch my breath. Most TV humor I saw on TV as a kid was Jewish humor e.g. Dick van Dyke.

Some Mel Broks is better than others. Young Frankenstein was great. I laugh just thinking about the scene with the old blind man. The History of the World was funny.

For much of my life American humor was Jewish humor. Rodney was Jewish. I even kinda like Larry David. I cannot stand comics who are not funny. Filthy is OK. Sarah Silverman is not funny.

If you want filthy but funny search out Gilbert Gottfried Roasts George Takei

Blogger The Masked Menace March 28, 2019 9:01 PM  

44. Matthew T

"... I don't find Owen Benjamin funny or entertaining at all, so to each their own."


Didn't you hit the link?

Didn't you watch the video entitled "jew comedy - Owen Benjamin"?

Didn't you even appreciate the subtle jab at Hamilton?

I thought it both brilliant and funny.

Blogger eclecticme March 28, 2019 9:27 PM  

@90. The Cooler March 28, 2019 10:17 AM
All Three of The Three Stooges were Jewish.


The Three Stooges were the only comedy I remember where being an intellectual was something to laugh at. E.g. a pointy headed profesor. In recent timies were are to revere them.

I used to laugh myself sick over the Stooges, then over Jerry Lewis and, of course, Mad magazine. Jerry Lewis did not stand the test of time for me, but I loved him in the Wiseguy garment trade arc, with Ron Silver, serious roles.

The Life of Brian has a sacrilegious ending, the crucifixion. That is terrible. The rest is very funny. The Latin lesson, the People's front of Judea splitting, what have the Romans done for us, Bigus Dickus, etc.

Jews are comediens because they are neurotic perhaps. Jews and Chinese are both high IQ, but the Jews win the science Nobel Prizes. I wonder if the neuroticism helps them be creative in that way?

Blogger sammibandit March 28, 2019 9:59 PM  

@tublecane

You hit the nail on the head about the generational aspect of humor and story telling. How you described the way that humor follows a person as they age using Simpsons as an example really helped me understand your Aristocrats story.

Groaning is a performative part in storytelling for the audience that has heard many times the stories that explain other stories. American Dad does it well when Stan or Steve groan at worn jokes. Auughhhhh. I swear, making a groaner of a story or joke is functionally important in storytelling because it's checking if the older audience is listening. And why can't the story teller have some laughs too?

Question for you, was Mitch as aware of his influence as was George Carlin?

Blogger eclecticme March 28, 2019 10:10 PM  

Trivia: In some movies on TV you see something like "The following presentation has been edited for time and or content to fit in the time allowed." I think you can thank Monty Python for that. ABC(?) hacked up their work pretty bad to fit in American TV time slots and made it not funny. Monty Python sued. I recall the case had to do with so called Moral Rights or some such.

Blogger TwoDogs March 28, 2019 10:47 PM  

Please. Blazing Saddles was one of the funniest, most politically incorrect movies ever made even when it came out in 1974 when I first saw it. "I can't believe they're getting away with this." Was my reaction way back then, followed by gales of laughter. Up yours, nigger !

Blogger Amethyst Dominica March 28, 2019 10:58 PM  

After reading everybody's thoughts about the Princess Bride, I wonder if the problem with modern (Jewish-made) media is that it's self-referential. In other words, you watch the Princess Bride, and you're immediately aware that it, on some level, knows that it's a work of fiction. Its message to the watcher is "This isn't one of those stories that plays it straight; it's not an earnest story for wide-eyed kids to take at face value. It's a story for the 'cool kids' who are above playing it straight. It's a story for the galaxy-brains who know not only that tropes exist, but can point out which tropes are being used at which particular moment and even whether or not the tropes themselves are being played straight or subverted." It seems that the people behind most of the entertainment being made today are saying to themselves, "We know our audience has watched a ton of movies and are familiar with all of the formulas. We need to make entertainment that tells this audience that we're aware of formulas and tropes and that we can make them feel smarter for figuring out how we're using them."

Entertainment today then, is all about playing to an audience's perception of its own cleverness. You can't just make a movie that tells a story, you have to make a movie that lets the audience know that you're a clever-clogs who can play with tropes and subvert expectations. This results in movies like "The Last Jedi" which were trying SO HARD to give the audience it's "subvert expectations" fix that it completely mucked up any kind of story it was trying to tell. It shouldn't surprise you that there's a site called TV Tropes that catalogues all of the tropes, formulas and archetypes used in all forms of media into a giant wiki. It's run by exactly the kind of puffed up, self-fellating autists that you think would gather around and contribute to such a site.

(Part 1)

Blogger Amethyst Dominica March 28, 2019 10:59 PM  

(Part 2)
Oh, but the purpose of entertainment today isn't just to show off the post-modern awareness of its creators and their knowledge of tropes. It's also to "correct" the problematic parts of prior films and remake them to fit in with modern values. In the Sultan Knish blog essay, "City of the Decadents", (http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2016/04/in-city-of-decadents.html) he notes the following:


"But decadent civilizations are also less interested in discovering new things than in disproving old things. The middling talents at the helm rewrite history while justifying their misrule by denouncing the achievements of their vigorous ancestors. Instead of standing on the shoulders of giants, they point out their flaws to obscure their own worthlessness.

Where the vigorous civilization disproves the old through its achievements, the decadent civilization considers the disproving of the old civilization to be an achievement in and of itself. Where the vigorous civilization [thrives] outside its parent, the decadent civilization is still stuck fighting 'Daddy'.

If you examine our achievements today, they have much to do with the supposed social progress we have made since the fifties. Much of this progress is a matter of outlook, rather than in reality. We are better because we are morally superior. Not because we actually do more.

Despite the disdain for the past, decadent civilizations struggle to do more than deconstruct and then helplessly imitate the past. Chaotic deconstruction of past creative arts is followed by retro copying of them, first ironically and then earnestly. Nostalgia becomes the central industry of a dying civilization mired in irony and incapable of mining its own culture for creative energies.

The central cultural critique becomes updating older works to more politically correct forms. A classic character is remade black or gay. Problems with diversity or sexism are tackled. The critic becomes a commissar whose job is to sanctify the transformation of an old politically incorrect work as politically correct. That is the role of the social justice warrior.

All this energy makes it appear as if there is cultural ferment when nothing is actually being produced. Instead older works are being "cleaned up" in keeping with new social values by a civilization that frantically chews up the past in a desire to forget the problems of the present."

This kind of thing is why the "Star Wars" films of today are more concerned with checking off the boxes on a Diversity Checklist than with writing noble and memorable characters. It's why a recent live-TV remake of "A Christmas Story" was more concerned with properly representing a (vaguely) Jewish side character with an entire song and dance number centered around Jewish culture, and why the singing Chinese Waiters scene was transformed into a gushing apology for the "racist" movie version of that scene.

This is why you have hundreds of YouTube channels that do nothing but review material of the past and filter it through a modern, more politically correct lens, (or through a "Tee hee. Look at how earnest and uncool those media makers of the past were. We're ever so much more sophisticated and educated these days" lens.) If you ever feel like gagging, watch Radio Dead Air's "Here There Be Dragons" fantasy reviews for an example of this:

http://radiodeadair.com/category/videos/here-there-be-dragons/

The only comedy in this series happens in the "Legend" review, where Nash berates the movie for implying that women are self-serving and duplicitous. (The comedy part comes in knowing that in real life, his girlfriend of the time was cheating on him, kicking him out of the house that he paid for, and then turning herself into a boy.)




Blogger The Masked Menace March 28, 2019 10:59 PM  

I watched "Blazing Saddles" in my thirties and didn't laugh once. I really don't remember watching the whole thing. Maybe I would have laughed if I was twelve... I don't know.

Blogger LP2021 Bank of LP Work in Progress March 28, 2019 11:06 PM  

I try to never be negative on comedy and humor in that I understand now laughter is a greater cooler more enjoyable thins with age. Just this week at ttb.org there was comments about how God has a great sense of humor is not only love and goodness but funny in that His will is quite a classroom.

My problems with all comedy stem from my thinking its 10% true or profoundly gross. My ears were burning in pain after a round of that Bill Burr. Of course they have families to support need the gigs, its fine but again, there is something as wrong with wanting to laugh and go against pslam 1 with todays depravity and disgusting hatred for white people to everyone.

Perhaps I am too serious over all but this post was a great comfort as I cannot tolerate too much of the Hebrewbox office or its hideous comedies filthy things. People think I'm a loon for a host of reasons, two of which; no phone (I might get one, might not) no cable tv. I profoundly disregard and dislike comedy but in time I warm up to it - I have no sense of humor mine is is about God, others, survival, productivity and health I cannot listen to endless swearbears (not related to Owen at all, think back 30 years, the swearbear jar)

This is also why Unathoirzed to BL to reading and sorta indugling in more serious things. There is only one life to live well and its not funny. It reminds of the happiness cultists, yes happy is "ok" but joy and easy peace/contentment in Christ is more enjoyable that subjecting myself to comedy gentile, Jewish, white, purple, gay, it just never agreed with me. Now I do recall Milo, a naturally funny guy b/c men are simply more funny and present comedy better than women.

119 I find this funny: anitfa is so dumb and stupid they cant even make their own merch, how funny would it be to paste their words, wear their shirts and be white with a MAGA hat on, not funny for them or the potential of a clash which I'd find hilarious. Like the time Ivan took on antifa.

Antifas merch would remain unsold and smelly, they dont and wont buy anything and smell all in like black and posters about some BS like equality; equality plus diversity is null/void, its not two ideals that can co ezxist in a logical manner.

And women invading comedy is another entire mess, I just strongly dislike it, its like torture to me. I had to endure some LGBT woman, they must have wanted me to leave b/c I left in 5 mins, its just gross, dark and warped.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 28, 2019 11:09 PM  

eclecticme wrote:Jews and Chinese are both high IQ, but the Jews win the science Nobel Prizes. I wonder if the neuroticism helps them be creative in that way?

I wonder whether there are any Chinese on the Nobel Committee? I wonder if there are any Jews on it?

Blogger LP2021 Bank of LP Work in Progress March 28, 2019 11:11 PM  

Edit: This is also why Unauthorized TV to BL to reading and sorta indulging in more serious things is just more light filled than the comedy circuits and clubs.

I was at a party with the damn TV on. A party is for hanging out, talking, nice time not the big black boring box spewing culture shock.

Blogger wreckage March 29, 2019 12:22 AM  

Mel Brooks has a very particular style of consciously low-brow humour. Honestly I think it's a lot like Owen Benjamin's "ducks" routine. It's not trying to be clever. It's a joke you could tell on a factory floor or in a pub. Owen sometimes has a stealth-intellectual sub-plot to his jokes; the equivalent in Mel Brooks is the fact that the main victim of his humour is actually the entertainment industry, Hollywood in particular.

Although I will say that his peak was Blazing Saddles, and you have to acknowledge Richard Pryor's influence on that.

Blogger Prof. Spudd March 29, 2019 12:37 AM  

@Ernst Osterham
Thing about Seinfeld is that the funniest character, Kramer, is a non-Jew.

Blogger SciVo March 29, 2019 1:03 AM  

Nate wrote:Mel Brooks did a lot of dumb low brow humor. But there are some legitimately funny moments in Blazing Saddles that have nothing to do with fart jokes.

Yes, but... they were ruined by my high school classmates repeating the punchlines as if they were intrinsically funny. So there I am, watching Blazing Saddles for the first time, hoping to finally find out who didn't need no stinking badgers and why...

And there was not a single badger in the entire goddamn movie. There wasn't even an absence of a badger. There were no stinking badgers that weren't not needed.

Blogger Paul M March 29, 2019 1:59 AM  

> It's rather remarkable considering how the Bible is, even from a purely secular perspective, so magnificently epic.

Now, there's a man who has never attempted to read Leviticus.

Blogger LP2021 Bank of LP Work in Progress March 29, 2019 2:00 AM  

For example, this friendly outgoing funny guy at one of the gyms. I avoid him in that people that constantly crack jokes aren't serious about life, everything is a game, a joke, ha-ha. What enraged me was bringing up how cutting edge comedy central was - its not enjoyable its torment tv but for some that is fun for them. I dont get it but ok.

Of course I do not mention or react how I'd like to react, he is just that kind of person and taking someones joy or my being critical towards them is a not the time or place.

Blogger Jack Morrow March 29, 2019 2:39 AM  

Akulkis wrote:Tthere were a total of 6 stooges: Larry, Curly, Moe, Shemp, Curly-Joe, and some other guy in the last few movies who wasn't nearly as good.

You're thinking of Joe Besser, who was in the later short films after Shemp's death. He didn't fit in with the Stooges' style of humour (he didn't like to be slapped), and was replaced by Curly Joe.

Victor Borge was Jewish, but his humour appealed to general audiences. In the old days when the Production Code was in place, Jews in show business produced material that would appeal to mainstream Gentile audiences, which is why I prefer comedians such as Jack Benny to anyone around now.

I liked Young Frankenstein, but I thought High Anxiety had just one good line, The Producers was somewhat overrated, and I could only take a few minutes of Blazing Saddles. The trouble with Mel Brooks' comedy is that there's no subtlety; he's in your face with it, and you can see it coming a mile away. I could be wrong, but I think his involvement with Get Smart was limited to co-creating the series with Buck Henry, and co-writing the pilot episode, Mr. Big.

Blogger Jill March 29, 2019 3:58 AM  

I've always liked Lucille Ball and Rowan Atkinson because of their physical comedy. Jemaine Clement is a good contemporary comedian. Love BBC's PG Wodehouse shows. Honestly, I laughed at Trump's pencil-neck remarks last evening more than I've laughed at anything in a long time. Trump generally strikes me as being good-hearted, and meanness isn't funny.

Blogger Living in a Fallen World March 29, 2019 6:03 AM  

There's this old comedy bit called The Two Thousand Year Old Man, done by Carl Reiner and Mel Brooks.

I'm told it's brilliant, but it never worked for me.

Blogger God Emperor Memes March 29, 2019 6:12 AM  

I thought there was some great stuff in Curb Your Enthusiasm but I had often wondered if I was the only one who thought Jerry Seinfeld was a) a bad actor and b) not at all funny as a stand-up.

Blogger wreckage March 29, 2019 6:33 AM  

@237 Jerry Seinfeld was never funny. He was statistically less likely to be funny than someone who was not trying to be funny. At one point in my relative youth they had Seinfeld re-runs on 6 nights a week. Those were dark days.

Blogger God Emperor Memes March 29, 2019 8:03 AM  

Best joke I've heard in ages: "Even though I'm an atheist, I respect my religious friends for their commitment to their faith. - After all, a Christ is for life and not just Dogmas."

Blogger Colonel Blimp March 29, 2019 9:28 AM  

I know i dont get his point either. Im not a huge fan, but that movie was fairly standard 80s fantasy. Men in tights though....

Blogger BassmanCO March 29, 2019 11:03 AM  

I liked "Blazing Saddles" (Nate) and "Gross Point Blank" (VD). Neither was perfect, but both were entertaining and funny in their own way.

I think comedy is like music in that tastes vary from style to style and there is no one precise measure of what is good or bad. Except Rap. Rap sucks.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 29, 2019 12:56 PM  

Don't Call Me Len wrote:Interesting that the focus of the comments is mostly movies and stand-up. A lot of the Jewish subversion-through-putative-comedy came on the small screen, especially most of the "socially progressive" sitcoms America was bombarded with in the 70's.
That's probably because TV is painful, especially if you look at the all-pervasive misandry; the last genuinely funny sitcom that didn't treat the male-/father-figure like a joke, that I remember, was Family Matters — which ended its run in 1998.

DonReynolds wrote:American humor used to be one of our great national treasures, but it has become a wasting asset.

There are three major branches of American humor. Basically, there is the English humor and German humor and Negro humor. It is not a matter of ethnicity, though it often taken that way, it is a matter of style....a matter of where you want to tickle.

German humor is slapstick. It is performed. It is physical. It is the clown car and the banana on the sidewalk and the practical joker.

English humor is the pun, the play on words, the satire, the mock-the-monk routine. It is Shakespeare and the groundlings. It is snarky and smart-mouth, insulting, and bawdy.
DonReynolds wrote:Ominous Cowherd wrote:DonReynolds wrote:Basically, there is the English humor and German humor and Negro humor.
You defined the first two. Let's hear your definition of the third?

Negro humor is more English than German, but with a strong play on the self-depreciating fool and plenty of profanity and vulgarity (with the exception of Bill Cosby). They have been permitted more explicit sex in their public humor. My favorite examples would be Redd Foxx and Chris Rock.

This explains why I've always thought I had a rather wide sense of humor: it's [classical] American Humor! — and you are absolutely right in the observation that this great national treasure has become a wasting asset, I think a lot of the fault is, as observed, on the intentional subversion by media and gatekeepers.

The clip Owen was commenting on was just stupid, even disregarding the painting. But you can have that sort of joke be both [relatively] clean (ie non-crass) and funny — imagine the opening to a Davie Crockett movie, where describing how tough and manly the King of the Wild Frontier was, have the description/narration of how he was a master outdoorsman as he's relieving himself then show the tree [after taking a chainsaw to the tree]. — OR a group of young mothers talking about their children, interrupted by a young boy proudly proclaiming "Mom, I peed on a tree!" with all the joy and pride that only a little boy can muster.

It is a travesty at how comedy has been hijacked, subverted and perverted in this country.

Blogger eclecticme March 29, 2019 3:22 PM  

I have not liked much TV for decades, since Wiseguy, escpecially not ethnic/black humor shows. My son talked me into watching a few and they were quite good.

George Lopez as stand up I do not like, or as a person. The George Lopez TV show was quite funny and featured good family values by George and his TV wife. They played very goood parents.

Everybody hates Chris has Chris Rock as a kid with a voice over by Chris Rock. It was funny and his dad tries his best.

Dave Chappelle is very creative and funny. His black Klansman skit is priceless.

Mind of Mencia was OK.

I noticed that drug humor does not stand the test of time. That includes such humor by Richard Pryor and Groove Tube. The VD public service ad in Groove Tube is the dirtiest funniest skit I ever saw.

Blogger logprof March 29, 2019 4:29 PM  

Rodney Dangerfield was Jewish, and he was awesome. In my Top 5 of comedians.

Blogger eclecticme March 29, 2019 10:40 PM  

@244. George P. Burdell March 29, 2019 4:29 PM
Rodney Dangerfield was Jewish, and he was awesome. In my Top 5 of comedians.


Rodney was also a mentor to many other comedians.
Trump is often compared to Rodney in the clubhouse in Caddyshack. I am told that VDH also made this comparison in his book The Case for Trump. "Looks good on you though."

Much of Back to School was filmed at UW Madison. "Call me sometime when you have no class."

Blogger Avalanche March 30, 2019 8:37 AM  

@211 Av: "Maybe someone should tie Milo to a chair and force him to watch it again?
Hamster: Listen to BB. Sodomy ain't love."

It's as much love as Milo is likely to understand. Sometimes, the illusion of food is all we get when we're starving.

Blogger Avalanche March 30, 2019 9:06 AM  

@231 "And there was not a single badger in the entire goddamn movie. There wasn't even an absence of a badger. There were no stinking badgers that weren't not needed."

Guessing you're being funny - that is very funny, and a fav line of mine form the movie! -- but this is why we need our own nation, our own society! To understand that joke, you must have shared the ... what? ... entertainment history? common parlance? same round-the-fire stories? ... of the people at whom that joke is directed!

I'm reminded of the Star Trek Next Gen episode "Darmock and Gilad at Tenagra." Our chapter of the national professional editors assoc. actually held a panel discussion of that episode, because it helps make one sensitive to the required shared metaphors, allegories, stories, and, yes, jokes.

The aliens, it turns out -- is this a spoiler? -- speak only in metaphor, or allusion. The clearest example of how that works, for those not familiar with the episode, is with Troi explaining the need for a shared basis of understanding. Paraphasing:

Troi: "So, someone says: 'Juliet on her balcony.' What are you trying to convey?"

Others: "Someone physically higher up." "Someone or something unattainable." "Someone young and desirable, a sexual or romance object." "The idea of needing to climb or overcome adversity to achieve a goal." "A forbidden object." and etc.

Troi: What if you do not know the meaning OF Juliet or balcony?

This is a thing writers and editors should be conscious of. How many times have you read a book that uses some 'trendie' thing or phrase, that, on a current reading, is groan-inducingly out-dated?

Blogger flyingtiger March 30, 2019 11:01 AM  

This list leaves out the three stooges, Jack Benny, and the Marx brothers. There success was that they did not try to be Jewish. The closest was was Jack Benny's to "To be or not to be" movie.
BTW if you see a Bob Hope movie, you wlll see where Woody Allen got his stage personality.

Blogger inthebriarpatch March 30, 2019 3:09 PM  

And prop up evil? F..k that wh..e.

Blogger inthebriarpatch March 30, 2019 3:13 PM  

This is your comedy:
*Breaks egg with Owen Benjamon Stand-Up*

This is your comedy on Political Correctness:
*Breaks egg with Kathy Griffin holding severed head of President*

Any questions?

Blogger inthebriarpatch March 30, 2019 3:21 PM  

The funny folks now are the ones who deliberately poke TheNarrative(tm).

Check out Katt Williams' stand-up.

I dont like rap, but I've been listening to Immortal Technique. Look at the lyrics of "1%".

It is almost a new genre of music... "Black Pill".

Blogger flyingtiger March 30, 2019 10:20 PM  

#85 On target. I endured watching a few episodes of Seinfeld. It reminded me of the time I worked in a residential home for highly functioning mentally ill people. The four main characters reminded me of some of my clients.

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