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Thursday, March 14, 2019

Republicans go openly anti-American

This doesn't surprise me in the least; I've been criticizing the uniparty since at least 2004. But I expect this Senatorial betrayal will anger more than a few Republicans:
The Republican-led Senate is set to deal President Donald Trump a rebuke on his declaration of a national emergency at the Mexican border, with the only remaining question how many GOP senators will join Democrats in defying him.

Republicans are predicting that Thursday’s showdown vote will result in Congress sending Trump a resolution blocking the border emergency he proclaimed last month to steer an extra $3.6 billion to building border barriers.

Since the Democratic-controlled House approved the measure last month, the Senate vote would force Trump to use a veto to protect his presidential campaign’s “Build the Wall” mantra over objections from his own party....

With Republicans controlling the Senate 53-47, just four GOP defections would be enough to approve the resolution canceling Trump’s border emergency.

Lee became the fifth Republican to say they’d back the resolution after Trump called him during a private lunch of GOP senators to say he opposed Lee’s compromise bill. The call was described by two officials who weren’t authorized to discuss the matter publicly and described it on condition of anonymity.

Soon afterward, Lee issued a statement saying he’d support the resolution blocking the border emergency. “Congress has been giving far too much legislative power to the executive branch,” Lee said. He said he’d vote to block Trump’s emergency because his own bill “does not have an immediate path forward.”

The other GOP senators who have said they will vote to block Trump’s border emergency are Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Kentucky’s Rand Paul.
This is a perfect example of the uselessness of so-called "representative democracy". The Founding Fathers were wrong. Mob rule would be vastly preferable.

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102 Comments:

Blogger Longtime Lurker March 14, 2019 11:37 AM  

As expected.

Blogger Nate March 14, 2019 11:38 AM  

if it passes...veto it. if it passes the veto... file a suit against it and tie it up in court while the wall is being built.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 14, 2019 11:39 AM  

Fucking Libertarians. Fucking Rand Paul. Fucking Mike Lee.

Faggots.

Blogger jamsco March 14, 2019 11:43 AM  

I know he won't, but what would happen if Trump signed it? It wouldn't force him to stop the Build The Wall plan, would it?

Blogger Peter Gent March 14, 2019 11:44 AM  

Veto! Veto! Veto! So, they are arguing that the Commander in Chief has no control over the border, to protect it. Time to get their head out of their asses.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 14, 2019 11:45 AM  

Easiest veto ever. Carter had the Muriel boat lift fiasco, not to be outdone the Ds have initiated a hold my beer moment for the ages.

Blogger jamsco March 14, 2019 11:45 AM  

I mean, wouldn't that be kind of funny if he signed it and then kept with the Wall plan? (I'm not recommending this plan of action)

Blogger cheddarman March 14, 2019 11:46 AM  

Republicans in the house and senate should be the first to be hung for treason

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener March 14, 2019 11:46 AM  

One of the few things the federal government is constitutionally mandated to do is defend the states from invasion. This is an invasion.

Blogger Nate March 14, 2019 11:47 AM  

Republicans only stand by their principles when it benefits their progressive masters.

lappiest lapdogs that ever lapped.

Blogger Billy March 14, 2019 11:50 AM  

At least we still have the constitution!

Blogger BassmanCO March 14, 2019 11:50 AM  

Are going to make it to 2032?

It looks like the gun confiscation bill will pass in my state (CO). Not sure what to do.

Blogger RC March 14, 2019 11:51 AM  

Our diaspora elite demonstrate once again why they've been ejected from nations repeatedly.

Blogger Keyser Soze March 14, 2019 11:52 AM  

Country goes to hell cause demorats, but have to follow rules & decorum, otherwise we’d be just like the demorats. High minded traiterous assholes.

Blogger Zbignu March 14, 2019 11:52 AM  

Mob rule would have given us Hillary

Blogger Mr Smith March 14, 2019 11:54 AM  

You'd think, being shot at on one of the most American of places, a baseball field, and then to have his ribs broken on his front lawn, would've given the curly haired idiot a wakeup call.

Blogger DJT March 14, 2019 11:56 AM  

2016
>UK votes to leave the EU
>Trump elected on promise to build a wall

March 14, 2019
>Parliament overturns Brexit
>Congress overturns last ditch effort to build the wall

Blogger Jeffrey Johnson March 14, 2019 11:58 AM  

I freaking hate the GOP. Just stab your president and your voters in the back, yet again.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 14, 2019 11:58 AM  

Mr Smith wrote:You'd think, being shot at on one of the most American of places, a baseball field, and then to have his ribs broken on his front lawn, would've given the curly haired idiot a wakeup call.

It did, hence treason.

Blogger James Dixon March 14, 2019 12:02 PM  

> if it passes...veto it. if it passes the veto... file a suit against it and tie it up in court while the wall is being built.

Exactly.

But while you're waiting for the wall to be built, call the military back from Europe and the Middle East, and station them at the border with orders to shoot to kill anyone who attempts to cross anywhere other than a designated crossing.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener March 14, 2019 12:02 PM  

Not that it's much consolation but the Democrats reliably stab their voters in the back too. They promote socialism while buying their voters off with crumbs and creating the greatest wealth inequality the world has ever seen by protecting big corporations from competition.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd March 14, 2019 12:08 PM  

If they come to take them, Tell them "No." And be prepared to mean it.

Blogger Gen. Kong March 14, 2019 12:09 PM  

This is a perfect example of the uselessness of so-called "representative democracy". The Founding Fathers were wrong. Mob rule would be vastly preferable.

The only demos represented by the Gay Old Pedobears is AIPAC, their friends at the ADL/$SPLC/ACLU and their lackeys in the Chamber of Commerce. Trump's great problem is that he completely fails to comprehend that they're nothing more than treasonous whores.

Blogger Mr Smith March 14, 2019 12:10 PM  

No, he took none of it as a threat to change any of his opinions. Rand is still asleep on his constitutional pillow case dreaming in rainbow libertarian land.

Blogger Gen. Kong March 14, 2019 12:11 PM  

Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:

Not that it's much consolation but the Democrats reliably stab their voters in the back too. They promote socialism while buying their voters off with crumbs and creating the greatest wealth inequality the world has ever seen by protecting big corporations from competition.

That's true but the average Donk drone is way to stupid to see anything of the sort.

Blogger seeingsights March 14, 2019 12:14 PM  

This is also an example of the "muh principles" from chucks.
A problem with that is when your opponent does not follow "principles".
When a leftist physically attacked Rand Paul, and a leftist attempted to assasination Republican Congressmen, we have no obligation to follow principles for our opponents.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 March 14, 2019 12:14 PM  

It is utterly incredible how disconnected the representatives are from the people these days.

Perhaps some savvy political scientists could write up a paper on this to try and make sense of it. Because right now, reason is silent.

Blogger Nate March 14, 2019 12:17 PM  

it should be noted that we elect representatives... not delegates.

There is a difference. Representatives are there to represent our will. Delegates are there to do what they think is best.

These are not the same.

States and districts should be able to recall representatives that don't do their will at any time. and it should happen. often.

Blogger carnaby March 14, 2019 12:19 PM  

We have an initiative process here in Washington State which is like mob rule and it is worse than representative democracy. Our wealthy losers drive initiatives to their liking. For example, Gates et al. are responsible for our latest gun control laws that could not get through the legislature because enough legislators were scared of what support for gun control would do to their prospects for re-election.

However, legislators have nothing to fear when an initiative passes, and enough residents of the state can be convinced that, for example, so-called Assault Weapons are bad, and will therefor vote for bans on any gun that has been labelled an Assault Weapon. Very few of the voters actually care about gun control and assault weapons, but they will check the box when it costs them nothing. I suspect that the vast majority of voters would not check the box if they had to pay a $1 fee or even just cross the street in order to cast that particular vote.

I think maybe mob rule but in which each voter gets a limited number of votes per election might work. Either that, or associate some sort of effort required to cast each vote. That would weed out the lazy votes, in which the voter doesn't have a horse in the race, which are a serious problem with mob rule.

Blogger Lance E March 14, 2019 12:22 PM  

Mitt Romney. Why am I not surprised. Why does Trump keep helping this guy in his political career?

Of course Collins and Murkowski are in on it too. Useless twits. We might as well have Democrats in office, they'd vote exactly the same way.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz March 14, 2019 12:23 PM  

Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:This is an invasion.

The invasion happened a long time ago. This is the occupation.

Blogger JG March 14, 2019 12:26 PM  

Of all the things for Republicans to cuck over, protecting the border. The republic is dead, and I hope the reset won't be too disastrous for the Posterity.

Blogger Zaklog the Great March 14, 2019 12:28 PM  

Rand Paul & the open borders libertarians.

Blogger carnaby March 14, 2019 12:29 PM  

Of all the things for Republicans to cuck over, protecting the border. The republic is dead, and I hope the reset won't be too disastrous for the Posterity.

I for one am looking forward to how disastrous the reset will be for the intersectional crowd. Totally worth it.

Blogger Peter Gent March 14, 2019 12:30 PM  

Tars Tarkusz wrote:Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:This is an invasion.

The invasion happened a long time ago. This is the occupation.

These are the second/third wave support troops.

Blogger Stilicho March 14, 2019 12:31 PM  

Unanimous support for an Israeli wall. Majority opposition to an American wall. Forget draining the swamp. Burn Congress down. Salt the earth. Then build the damned wall.

Blogger Solon March 14, 2019 12:41 PM  

New Jersey gun owners have already defied the legislation requiring them to turn in their extended mags.

Are you going to let a bunch of people from New York City's landfill out-do you?

Blogger Yordan Yordanov March 14, 2019 12:42 PM  

Fun Fact: Lichtenstein is a direct democracy and an absolute monarchy at the same time. The reason they haven't officially joined the EU is to keep the foreigners away.

Also the absolute Monarchies like the UAE and Qatar tend to treat foreigners...in a very particular way.

Blogger Warunicorn March 14, 2019 12:42 PM  

Is there any doubt that the Republicans also hate us? Ever since Trump won the nomination, they've been bitter. I mean, how dare he, right? It was bad enough when they tried to throw him under the bus over the Access Hollywood tape.

Pfft. They can all go drink bleach until they're dead for all I care.

Blogger Longtime Lurker March 14, 2019 12:42 PM  

And in related news: Beto "gonna tear down that wall" O'Rourke just announced his candidacy for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination.

Blogger HalibetLector March 14, 2019 12:42 PM  

BassmanCO wrote:Are going to make it to 2032?

It looks like the gun confiscation bill will pass in my state (CO). Not sure what to do.


I doubt it will affect you much. 10 Colorado counties have already declared "gun sanctuary" status. What that means is the sherriffs in those counties will not enforce any gun confiscation laws should they pass.

To put things in perspective, the "red flag" law is part of a coordinated attack. Multiple states are attempting to pass these laws all at the same time, presumably to stretch thin the resources of organizations like GOA and NRA. Many of these have already been defeated and were never signed into state law. Dozens of counties across the country have declared their counties "gun sanctuary" zones. In addition, there are now 17 constitutional carry states, the last 3 were voted for in the past 3 months alone.

We're winning. Don't lose heart. FIGHT.

Blogger carnaby March 14, 2019 12:47 PM  

Solon, how many weapons do you own that are banned by state law? How many New Jersey gun owners own same? Defying a magazine ban is pretty lame if they aren't defying their assault weapon ban.

Blogger Patrick Kelly March 14, 2019 12:50 PM  

"Meanoldbasterd wrote:If they come to take them, Tell them "No." And be prepared to mean it."

Unless you have ninja super powers enabling taking on a dozen or more jbt hell bent on killing you to earn their paycheck the best you could hope for is someone won't believe the MSM domestic terrorist spin and mourn your passing. It would be an honorable but unnecessary and profitless death.

A better plan is prepare for you and your guns not to be there and for followup action.

Don't ask me how, I haven't figured it out yet, and if I do I won't post details here. I hope enough, better, rougher men than I have.

Blogger cmbaileytstc March 14, 2019 12:55 PM  

Dammit I thought Rand would have better sense.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 14, 2019 12:56 PM  

Only 4 republicans need to be called and told "We know about your kiddie diddling so vote against Trump or else".

If we end up in a civil war, these cucks won't have a side to go running to for protection.

Blogger cmbaileytstc March 14, 2019 12:57 PM  

Could the states where the majority of the population wants a border start to do something about that problem themselves?

Blogger Cataline Sergius March 14, 2019 12:57 PM  

Lance E wrote:Mitt Romney. Why am I not surprised. Why does Trump keep helping this guy in his political career?

Of course Collins and Murkowski are in on it too. Useless twits. We might as well have Democrats in office, they'd vote exactly the same way.


Trump is backing Romney for the simple reason that he knows that there is going to be a primary challenge for the #nevertrump rump movement.

He has selected an opponent that he knows he will have no trouble beating.

This will play badly in Utah but it hardly matters to Mitt because he really doesn't care about being reelected as a Senator.

Blogger Shimshon March 14, 2019 1:02 PM  

I miss the good old days when Rand Paul betrayed his principles.

Blogger doctrev March 14, 2019 1:03 PM  

The establishment keeps pushing this as a "rebuke" to Trump, a sign that the Republican Party is pulling away from his agenda. Which is abject nonsense, from the perspective of actual Republican voters. Donald Trump can point to this and the Obamacare failure as the ultimate signs of GOP cuckery, and rightly ask what the earthly point of a Congress is. Judicial nominations? The President makes those, and he doesn't -need- confirmations to make them better. Standing in the way of the next Democrat President? Yes, because they did an amazing job of holding back the Obama agenda.

If the Republicans want to usher in the age of the American Caesar, bring it on.

Blogger Yordan Yordanov March 14, 2019 1:03 PM  

@45 Those cucks will be the first out of the country.

Blogger Cecil Henry March 14, 2019 1:04 PM  


What happened to this Man?

This is what Americans voted for:


https://i.imgur.com/bmJAgpN.png

Blogger James Dixon March 14, 2019 1:10 PM  

> Could the states where the majority of the population wants a border start to do something about that problem themselves?

Texas was looking into it: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-lawmakers-mull-funding-2-5-billion-wall-push-of-their-own

But the short answer is no. It's solely a federal issue.

Blogger Avalanche March 14, 2019 1:11 PM  

@20 "But while you're waiting for the wall to be built, call the military back from Europe and the Middle East, and station them at the border with orders to shoot to kill anyone who attempts to cross anywhere other than a designated crossing."

From your keyboard to God's directive pen into the president's hand!

Blogger BassmanCO March 14, 2019 1:24 PM  

Zbignu wrote:Mob rule would have given us Hillary

Trump had a majority until California. And if you think that was 3 million more legitimate votes she received, I have a bridge to sell you.

Blogger pyrrhus March 14, 2019 1:25 PM  

I don't see the problem with Trump vetoing this idiotic resolution...It can only gain him votes.

Blogger Cassandros the Elder March 14, 2019 1:27 PM  

Sen. Mike Lee is 100% invested in the Constitution. His dad (Rex E. Lee) was solicitor general of the U.S. under Reagan, law school dean, and President of BYU. Mike Lee is not a pragmatic man when it comes to the Constitution.

Blogger DonReynolds March 14, 2019 1:36 PM  

The essence of democracy is rule by the adult majority. You can add bells and whistles all you care to...to guarantee the rights of the minority(s), but in the end, democracy is a way of making decisions based on the will of the majority.

OUR representatives are supposed to assure us that they REPRESENT us, but there is little recourse should they decide to play "statesman" and use their own judgement, once they arrive in Washington. Once within the Washington Bubble or Beltway, they are subject to all sorts of special interests, outright bribes, pressure from party leaders and the executive branch, and the practical necessity of governing one of the biggest and most important countries in the world.

Foreign affairs are normally only interesting to the public to the extent that it directly impacts this entire country, but OUR representatives are subject to ethnic pressure groups and the national security as defined by the military and the intelligence community. OUR representatives feel comfortable voting contrary to what the folks want back home as long as it supports the national security interests as so defined. Since so much of our national security is treated as a state secret, one could say that the public is simply uninformed on certain topics... deliberately.

So there are practical reasons in some cases where OUR representatives do not actually represent the majority public will. The judiciary take great pride in being immune from the public will and the executive has his own agenda, which may well be national, but OUR representatives have every good reason to properly represent US and when they do not, WE have every reason to feel betrayed and disappointed. OUR representatives are the only voice we have in Washington and when it gets drown out by political leaders and lobbyists and interest groups and the media, we KNOW that the system of government has failed us and we should take an interest in correcting that failure.

Blogger Damelon Brinn March 14, 2019 1:36 PM  

"Border Deniers" is pretty decent rhetoric. May it stick to them for life.

Blogger Akuma March 14, 2019 1:46 PM  

So they are the Nazis.

http://infogalactic.com/info/21st_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Skanderbeg

Blogger Gettimothy March 14, 2019 1:53 PM  

I don't get mad at the GOP anymore. I treat them as enemies.

Blogger carnaby March 14, 2019 1:55 PM  

I don't get mad at my brother anymore, I just treat him as an enemy. And I don't even have a brother.

Blogger Rebel Skate March 14, 2019 1:56 PM  

Both Utah senators? That state is screwed when the breakup occurs. When the rest of us will be fighting for our little corner of land and life those cucks in Utah will be handing their kids over to be molested to any and all authority figures because 'muh principles'

Blogger Damelon Brinn March 14, 2019 2:00 PM  

Now he just needs to veto the damn thing, and not overthink it by trying to negotiate a different deal. Use the power.

The Strzok testimony being released today appears hot enough that I'm wondering if they aren't doing this as a distraction from that.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club March 14, 2019 2:03 PM  

“Congress has been giving far too much legislative power to the executive branch,” Lee said.

Lap dogs for decades, and this is where they decide to try barking? They haven't been "giving" their power to the executive, they've steadfastly refused to take up any of their responsibilities (except of course for important things like the wishes of Is-ra-el). They shouldn't merely be recalled, they should be charged with dereliction of duty.

Blogger Peaceful Poster March 14, 2019 2:07 PM  

The right wing mob is cooler than the left wing mob.

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei March 14, 2019 2:23 PM  

Supplicia canum

Blogger tublecane March 14, 2019 2:38 PM  

@10- But what principles are involved here, exactly? I haven't been able to pin them down.

Blogger gunner451 March 14, 2019 2:41 PM  

The Senator were originally appointed by the States rather than by direct election by the people. The idea was that they would then be more likely to represent the interests of the state and somewhat immune to the ever changing opinions of the people. Should probably go back to that as I think it would get rid of a lot of this grand standing / virtue signaling they are doing to try to get re-elected.

Blogger tublecane March 14, 2019 2:44 PM  

@64- When you say executive people think president, but of course the executive branch is mostly Permanent Government. The president doesn't run anything directly, not even the White House.

Congress is generally perfectly happy handing authority to the Managerial State. Certain personalities they don't like pop up, and they will battle them politically. Or, if it's a Nixon, pseudo-legally. However, that has little to do with fear of the executive branch.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 14, 2019 2:45 PM  

tublecane wrote:But what principles are involved here, exactly? I haven't been able to pin them down.

Orange Man Bad

Blogger tublecane March 14, 2019 2:51 PM  

@68- True. But if you do it that way eventually states secede. Then the central government says nuh-uh, kills a bunch of people, and subsequently does whatever it wants.

Blogger Bobo #117 March 14, 2019 2:54 PM  

"Sen. Mike Lee is 100% invested in the Constitution. His dad (Rex E. Lee) was solicitor general of the U.S. under Reagan, law school dean, and President of BYU. Mike Lee is not a pragmatic man when it comes to the Constitution."

Muh Constitution!!

Fuckin' Morms...

Blogger Derrick Bonsell March 14, 2019 3:06 PM  

If Trump is backing a coup in Venezuela why can't be back a self-coup here and depose Confress ;)

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 14, 2019 3:18 PM  

Trump gives a classic one word American answer to these traitors:

VETO!

Blogger Hunsdon March 14, 2019 3:18 PM  

And the Harlem Globetrotters defeat the Washington generals once again! Where is my shocked face? I know I had it around here somewhere.

Blogger Brett baker March 14, 2019 3:19 PM  

If we're going to be the Roman Empire, might as well do it right!

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 14, 2019 3:20 PM  

@21
Noah B The Savage Gardener
Not that it's much consolation but the Democrats reliably stab their voters in the back too. They promote socialism while buying their voters off with crumbs and creating the greatest wealth inequality the world has ever seen by protecting big corporations from competition


Trannies R da REAL proletariat!

@30
Mitt Romney. Why am I not surprised. Why does Trump keep helping this guy in his political career?

Might have something to do with GOP megadonor/ vulture fund manager (((Paul Singer))).

Mitt Romney's Hedge Fund Kingmaker

Pro-Trump super PAC weighs in on midterms

Trump Megadonors

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 14, 2019 3:23 PM  

@46
Could the states where the majority of the population wants a border start to do something about that problem themselves?

That's where the kritarchy comes in. See:

Arizona SB 1070

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey March 14, 2019 3:31 PM  

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Blogger Garuna March 14, 2019 3:37 PM  

LOLbertarians are controlled opposition. Have you ever seen them fight this hard to cut spending?

Reminder: John McCain and Jeff Flake made their name as two of the biggest anti-spending hawks. But the hardest they ever fought in their lives was to subvert MAGA. Including saving Obamacare of all things.

Blogger Johnny March 14, 2019 3:42 PM  

The most favorable possible explanation for this is that they run a bill through so that congress critters can make a symbolic vote that might win points with the voters. In this case it would seem that they want to push the burden of wanting the wall on Trump, which if true doesn't even seem like a smart political move to me. And the usual lack of support for the president from the usual suspects.

Nixon used to treat Congress like it was his enemy and that part of it seemed to work.

It was Woodrow Wilson that helped shift the election of Senators from the state houses to the state voters. I doubt it would make our politics any better to shift back, but it would shift power to the states. On balance a good thing in our current situation.

Blogger Timmy3 March 14, 2019 3:46 PM  

59-41 Against. Trump will veto. Life moves on.
Pelosi will not change the law. So it doesn’t matter anyways. They want to reserve the law for a Democratic President.

Blogger Jeroth March 14, 2019 3:57 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:VETO!

The wording of his follow up was disappointing.

I look forward to VETOING the just passed Democrat inspired Resolution which would OPEN BORDERS while increasing Crime, Drugs, and Trafficking in our Country. I thank all of the Strong Republicans who voted to support Border Security and our desperately needed WALL!

He refuses to call out the GOP elite. If he keeps covering for them like this, they will continue to make a fool of him.

Blogger Sam March 14, 2019 4:10 PM  

@57
"The essence of democracy is rule by the adult majority. You can add bells and whistles all you care to...to guarantee the rights of the minority(s), but in the end, democracy is a way of making decisions based on the will of the majority."

People hate those who have power over them. They attempt to act out to show they aren't under their thumb. Democracy loudly asserts that the voters have power over politicians...

Blogger Mark Stoval March 14, 2019 4:21 PM  

The Rothbardian Ancaps have been saying for a long, long time that Rand Paul is NOT the same as Dr. Ron Paul. He is not even a libertarian.

On the other hand, I never totally trusted Ron Paul since he served in the congress. He was a member of the most evil organization in the country. I respect the Mafia much more.

Rothbard and the rest of the far right ancaps have been saying that the Republicans are sellouts for decades. The first time I read that was at least 40 years ago.

The Republican bastards tubed Patrick J. Buchanan in his run for nomination of the GOP. Pat would have been one of the best presidents ever. But alas, the enemy won that round.

Blogger Elijah March 14, 2019 4:25 PM  

i don't see a way out of the invasion. demoncrats and woman have ruined this country. we should have never given any of them the vote. if you remove the dindus and woman from voting and insure no illegal votes, good things can happen. but we seem to be going in the other direction.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 14, 2019 4:26 PM  

The enemy has been winning for a long ass time.

Blogger Crew March 14, 2019 4:38 PM  

Is this more head fakery or are (((they))) also discovering that Democracy doesn't work the way they want?

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/ilhan-omar-leader-of-the-democratic-party/

Maybe it's another case of them working together.

Blogger robomuff March 14, 2019 4:39 PM  

I honestly don't know what to do with this other then continue my plans to move the family to a rural location, build community, seek truth and continue learning.

Anything else seems doomed to failure.

'If I had but one bullet and were faced by both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it.'

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener March 14, 2019 5:01 PM  

"Rothbard and the rest of the far right ancaps have been saying that the Republicans are sellouts for decades. The first time I read that was at least 40 years ago."

For Whom The Bell Tolls, gushingly celebrating the Spanish Republicans, was made into a movie in 1943. Man, how those (((Hollywood pukes))) have pulled the wool over Americans' eyes.

Blogger tublecane March 14, 2019 5:36 PM  

@85- Plenty of people dabble in Austrian economics and libertarian philosophy. But as regards practical Rothbardian politics, it didn't get much of anywhere. There may have been something to trying to co-opt the New Left for a wide-ranging anti-war movement. No doing with those people, though. They were Boomers, nuff said.

Serious right-wing libertarianism is not allowed in mainstream culture. Koch-itarians are. You could read Liberty magazine (I have; it was okay), if you could find it. A harmless form of this line of thought can be found scattered across pop culture in easily swallowed portions. For instance, the sit-com Parks and Rec, which first appears as if it's going to be a struggle between a centralizing lunatic and an eccentric anarchist. Except the statist always wins. And people like John McCain, Joe Biden, and Michelle Obama make cameo appearances. And it's on NBC.

If the sort of libertarianism they depicted were dangerous, you wouldn't see it. Unless you went looking, as many have.

Blogger Mark Stoval March 14, 2019 5:56 PM  

@91 tublecane

Yes, I have to agree with your assessment. Much like the real "alt-right" can not be honestly talked about and explained in the mainstream, hard right market anarchism can not be either.

Both the alt-right and the Rothbardians have the problem of so damn many fakes calling themselves alt-right or ancap. They were called "fake libertarians" back then and now VD often talks of alt-retard or so forth.

To my mind we are drowning in a sea of enemies and traitors.

Blogger Michael Maier March 14, 2019 6:11 PM  

gunner451 wrote:The Senator were originally appointed by the States rather than by direct election by the people. The idea was that they would then be more likely to represent the interests of the state and somewhat immune to the ever changing opinions of the people. Should probably go back to that as I think it would get rid of a lot of this grand standing / virtue signaling they are doing to try to get re-elected.

Nice idea, but not practical OR historical. Most of the states had gone to Senators appointed by popular elections anyway before required by the amendment.

Blogger van helsing March 14, 2019 6:38 PM  

12 + 47 only = 59. but - et tu, rand?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 14, 2019 7:03 PM  

Conservative Tree house has the most perceptive take on this, pure sop to the Chamber Pot of Commerce and a threat to impeach

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar March 14, 2019 7:12 PM  

Ultimately it has got to be burned down anyway. Trump is a temporary deviation. It is the natural order of things. I hope I am not around when urban dwellers turn on each other. Folk around here will man the barricades. Guaranteed.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 14, 2019 7:34 PM  

Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:One of the few things the federal government is constitutionally mandated to do is defend the states from invasion. This is an invasion.
This.
The really frustrating thing is that there was zero reason to use a national emergency which could have legal challenges: everything that's needed is Art. 4, Sec. 4, which as you say exactly mandates protection of the States from invasion.

I suspect the reason that Trump doesn't go this rout is that he wants to "win" via negotiation, the other possibility is that he is ignorant/misinformed of this possibility; you can see it by the fools who cite "Muh posse comitatus", the full test reads:
Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. (Note the bold portion.)

Billy wrote:At least we still have the constitution!
Except the Constitution's not being used. (See above.)

BassmanCO wrote:It looks like the gun confiscation bill will pass in my state (CO). Not sure what to do.
HB19-1177? Hm, looks like they thought about people calling in, concerned about their political overlords.

swiftfoxmark2 wrote:It is utterly incredible how disconnected the representatives are from the people these days.
This is by design; that they live in echo-chambers and tho voices heard are those of their fellows and the MSM is no accident.

Lance E wrote:Mitt Romney. Why am I not surprised. Why does Trump keep helping this guy in his political career?
My guess: Trump is listening to the worm-tongued swamp-creatures with which he's surrounded himself.

Stilicho wrote:Unanimous support for an Israeli wall. Majority opposition to an American wall. Forget draining the swamp. Burn Congress down. Salt the earth. Then build the damned wall.
Pray.

Blogger FUBARwest March 14, 2019 7:38 PM  

Gonna be real hard for people to continue supporting this type of government in the future. Going against the will of the nation in two seperate countries is going to look terrible historically.

Blogger Lamarck Leland March 14, 2019 9:31 PM  

Wow, Rand Paul... what a disappointment.
I really admired his father back then

Blogger liberranter March 14, 2019 10:06 PM  

LOLbertarians are controlled opposition. Have you ever seen them fight this hard to cut spending?

Although the verbal and intellectual flatulators of the Auburn Ivory Tower would almost certainly disagree, I assert that the very principles undergirding libertarianism preclude it from being any part of electoral politics. Ergo, any politician, especially a career one, claiming to adhere to "libertarian" principles is almost certainly ignorant of what libertarianism really is, at best, or is a lying fraud, at worst.

Blogger tublecane March 15, 2019 12:07 AM  

@100- True. For instance, I remember people making hay of Alan Greenspan's past association with the Rand Cult. Make of it what you will, but to carry over into pretending Greenspan ran his cartel like an Objectivist is silly. Even if Ayn Rand was controlled opposition. Because you simply wouldn't be Fed chairman and be a Randian.

Unless you were a secret agent, I suppose. But I've never known there to exist a Fabian form of libertarianism.

Blogger peter blandings March 15, 2019 6:46 AM  

i strongly suspect that curly hair is a wig. it is always precisely disheveled in exactly the same way. and the whole neighbor tackling him is a cover story if i ever heard one.

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