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Saturday, March 02, 2019

Why the Left is dead

And why Identity has replaced Ideology:
It seems that there is not much left of the Left and what remains has nothing to do with ‘Left.’

Contemporary ‘Left’ politics is detached from its natural constituency, working people. The so called ‘Left’ is basically a symbolic identifier for ‘Guardian readers’ a critical expression attributed to middle class people who, for some reason, claim to know what is good for the working class. How did this happen to the Left? Why was it derailed and by whom?

The British Labour party is a prime example of this. It is deaf to the cry of the lower classes. It claims to care ‘for the many’ but in practice is only attentive to a few voices within the intrusive Israeli Lobby. As Britain is struggling with the crucial debate over Brexit, British Labour has been focused instead on spurious allegations of ‘antisemitsm.’ It is hard to see how any Left political body in the West even plans to bring more work to the people. The Left offers nothing in the way of a vision of a better society for all. It is impossible to find the Left within the contemporary ‘Left.’

Why has this happened to the Left, why has it become irrelevant? Because by now the Left is a non-hierarchical system. It is an amalgam of uniquely ungifted people who made politics into their ‘career.’ Most Left politicians have never worked at a proper job where money is exchanged for merit, achievements or results. The vast majority of Left politicians have never faced the economic challenges associated with the experience of being adults. Tragically such people can’t lead a country, a city, a borough or even a village.

The Left had a mostly positive run for about 150 years. But its role has come to an end as the condition of being in the world has been radically transformed. The Left failed to adapt. It removed itself from the universal ethos.
In the same way the Left no longer represents the native working class, the "conservatives" of the West no longer conserve. We now live in a post-ideological multinational societies where competing interest groups struggle for the reins of imperial power in order to best benefit their self-perceived interests.

This is nothing new. This is the way that Man has lived for most of his history. The sooner the Right accepts the new/old reality and adapts to it, the more successful it will be. Because there are a lot of people practicing identity politics who are working very hard at trying to steer the Right away from defending national interests.

The Republican Party and I think conservatism in general is also going through a lot of internal debates about what — what it should be, right, what it should be—the sort of position of the party. And I think that’s one that we should be involved in because we, I think, probably want to steer conservatives and Republicans more towards a message of liberty and freedom and away from the more nationalistic incendiary nativist comments and things like that.
—Adam Kovacevic, Head of U.S. public policy, Google

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52 Comments:

Blogger weka March 02, 2019 8:30 PM  

The old right know that thwy havw already been replaced by nationalists.

Which is why they are screeching. T

Blogger Dave Dave March 02, 2019 8:37 PM  

Many countries will collapse before the mainstream right gets the memo. Theyre nkt smart enough to have realised yet.

Blogger Ryan G March 02, 2019 8:41 PM  

The Left: Feverishly hunts down anyone who even looks at a Jew funny so that they can brand them an Anti-Semite and discredit them.

Also the Left: Feverishly imports millions of Muslims who openly hate Jews and regularly inflict violence against them.

This is just another example of why I don't buy into conspiracy theories. Left, Right, and Center - politicians are just going along with the wishes of their paymasters.

Blogger Ostar March 02, 2019 8:46 PM  

The quintessential leftie 50 yrs ago, George McGovern, discovered this by accident when he retired from politics and his attempt to own and run a business (150 room Stratford Inn) went bankrupt after 2 yrs.

He said later: "I also wish that during the years I was in public office, I had had this firsthand experience about the difficulties business people face every day. "

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 02, 2019 8:49 PM  

Ryan G,

Wouldn't a situation where paymasters who are paying politicians on the down low to sell out their own countrymen in exchange for political power, benefits, and money be...a conspiracy?

Blogger Johnny March 02, 2019 8:55 PM  

I've been thinking that maybe the way to sort it out is to understand political parties based on what they pretend to be for. Except I am not always sure what they pretend to be for. The left is looking like it might turn anti-Semitic, and curiously their left wing Jewish supporters don't seem to notice or care or something. And the right is against illegal immigration, except when they are not. And they pretend to be nationalists even when they are globalist, as the lefties are openly at least some of the time. Or whatever. Maybe I should start watching the news again so I can figure out who pretends to be for what.

Blogger pyrrhus March 02, 2019 8:57 PM  

Corbin has betrayed his voters by switching to a second vote on Brexit, so it's clear that Labor is listening to only a tiny cliche, but not its own voters...The left has become only window dressing for the elites...

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 02, 2019 9:03 PM  

When people say they don't see race, ask them if the favor is being returned.

Blogger Johnny March 02, 2019 9:08 PM  

I have often wondered which was better, the parliamentary or presidential system. Watching the way the political parties in Britain manage to avoid giving the public what they want on Brexit makes me think that the British system is a crock. More dominated by party politics than ours, and that is not a good thing.

Blogger John Best March 02, 2019 9:21 PM  

@9 British state, through which the special interest groups gain control of the power of the state, has been an Empire since the Puritans invaded Scotland, Ireland, murdered the king, allowed the Jews back into Britain. Since then there has been a continuing struggle between the institutions of the nation and the institutions of the state. However the British system is far superior to the American system which was destroyed when the Puritan North invaded the Cavalier South.

Blogger Johnny March 02, 2019 9:31 PM  

@10 My take on the politics of the United States following the Civil War is that it looks like an empire being run by the industrial interests in the northeast, the old New England states.

When it comes to Britain, I wonder how much power that city within a city has, thats the City of London.

Blogger Dirtnapninja March 02, 2019 9:35 PM  

The left has been replaced with a post-left. And the post left isnt an ideology. Its a strategy for getting power.

Blogger John Best March 02, 2019 9:38 PM  

It is strange when you realize not only are the nation and state two different things, but they are directly opposed to each other. The state is nothing more than the vessel through which the globalists manipulate, subvert and force nations into empires to be exploited for foreign interest groups. It is very interesting how its the same throughout history and all over the world.

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 02, 2019 9:40 PM  

Interesting that Kovacevic is concerned with nationalist and nativist comments, and not identity in general. The targeting grows more overt.

Blogger maniacprovost March 02, 2019 9:40 PM  

want to steer conservatives and Republicans more towards a message of liberty and freedom and away from the more nationalistic incendiary nativist comments

This false dichotomy is of course the problem. The whole basis of "free markets" is competition and personal preference. Yet, I'm not supposed to compete for resources? I'm not supposed to have any preferences? It makes no sense.

Why is nativism antithetical to liberty? "Liberty" that requires me to conform and sacrifice to bring about the desired societal outcome of the ruling class (educated by cultural Marxists) is not liberty.

Blogger Damn the torpedos March 02, 2019 9:45 PM  

“Liberty” means nothing if you are occupied by other nations

Blogger John Best March 02, 2019 9:48 PM  

@11 The US system post civil war was the state dominating the nation, forcing nations together and then importing millions of Africans and Irish into the North itself for said industrialists. But really to increase the power of the American state. After these there was many wars, expansion and migrations. All comes from the defeat of the Southern domain and nations, by the globalists in the American state.

The city of London has had a great deal of influence, but that is limited outside of the home counties and big cities. Where I live it doesn't matter, and only matters because of the mass private debt in the UK. Its very interesting how the influence of the state disappears when you leave the big cities in Britain.

Blogger Lovekraft March 02, 2019 9:51 PM  

@VD; comment #40 on the Epstein thread puts the matter in a new perspective. Dershowitz wants to unseal, apparently.

Blogger cheddarman March 02, 2019 10:02 PM  

civic nationalists are in denial of reality. There is no benefit for whites to import more black, brown and yellow skinned people. These people see you as the enemy.

Blogger Johnny March 02, 2019 10:04 PM  

Damn the torpedos wrote:“Liberty” means nothing if you are occupied by other nations

I am not down on the core thinking or democracy, but there is a kind of internal nonsense to this. The word liberty as it is actually used does not mean personal freedom. It means your faction is in charge collectively. The apparent underlying assumption is that a group of people will oppress themselves less than outsiders, therefore self governance means freedom.

The core conceptual change that occurred around the time of our revolution and the French Revolution, is that the public at large should be involved in the affairs of state, and that by assumption would make them free. Thus in theory the French were fighting for freedom, even if in the republic they on a daily basis were not any more free than before. And apparently that held up during the empire period. Some how the citizens were supposed to want Napoleon to have one of his relatives run Spain, or something. To the greater glory of France I guess.

Blogger Jim March 02, 2019 10:12 PM  

The Left doesn't have a natural constituency. Ever since it was defined in the French Revolution, the Left has always been about one thing and one thing only: "innovation." It must always go off the rails, because rails are a bourgeois concept. There must always be bigger, better, more impossible plans and grand designs to inflict on the populace. If you aren't digging deeper mass graves than the last regime, you aren't trying hard enough and are probably a dangerous reactionary.

Blogger Johnny March 02, 2019 10:19 PM  

What is really appalling is that we have or had a very favorable situation. A large, powerful nation with secure borders and a reasonably homogeneous population, the true outlier minorities not numerous enough to be all that troublesome. And now we are throwing it away.

Blogger Joe Smith March 02, 2019 10:27 PM  

The mainstream right has fully converged. It no longer performs its functions and instead pushes the Narrative. The left was always an evil force though. It's sole purpose has always been to subvert Western, and therefore Christian, society.

Blogger eclecticme March 02, 2019 10:44 PM  

Many others have quoted Bertolt Brecht to the effect that the people/electorate have to be replaced.

During the last US presidential campaign I recall Trump saying that the GOP was the workers party. I could imagine Bernie's head exploding.

The idea of Trump saying "Workers of the World Unite!" is just too delicious.

Maybe the concept of tariffs should be repackaged as way to help the workers at the expense of the capitalists. Destroying US manufacturing jobs was great because ....?

I used to think that 'conservatives' were realists and liberals followed some stupid model based on communism. Then I realized that conservatives believed in some Ricardo fairy tale and ignored reality as well.

Blogger eclecticme March 02, 2019 11:03 PM  

Disclaimer: I do NOT like unions. But ...

Here is a thought experiment. Trump advocates for unions as long as the members are US citizens. E.g. E-verify.

Thought experiment: The unemployed/underemployed working class say that this whole globalism thing must be great so pay us a minimum living wage out of the benefits to the capitalists and govt employees.

Blogger Jed Mask March 02, 2019 11:04 PM  

Yeah I dunno what the "Left" AKA "Liberals" are really "standing for" these days...

They basically be the "Walking Dead" lol and the "Conservatives" who aren't "Cuckservatives" are the "new light".

(P.S. Other interesting news Mr. Cernovich got his new site: https://www.cernovich.com/. Interesting development.)

Blogger Johnny March 02, 2019 11:54 PM  

>>Yeah I dunno what the "Left" AKA "Liberals" are really "standing for" these days...

I'd say two things are going on. They can't really tell you what they are for because there isn't popular support for what they want. And the other is that they pander to minorities that don't actually like each other, and so they can't get into saying what they do for the individual groups.

Going by current behavior, I think if we see a liberal majority in Washington that is genuinely empowered, it is going to be one hell of a mess. What will follow will be like the progression of events in the French Revolution. After they initially screw things up they won't go gently into the night. They will do what they have to do to stay in power, which will be to become progressively more repressive.

Blogger SciVo March 02, 2019 11:58 PM  

Jed Mask wrote:Yeah I dunno what the "Left" AKA "Liberals" are really "standing for" these days...

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law."

Blogger Lance E March 03, 2019 12:13 AM  

The left was always the high and low vs. the middle. The low used to be the working class, which in the 1940s was approaching parity between whites and blacks.

Now that they've imported a gigantic underclass and "helped" regress most of the black population to its feral default, the white working class isn't "low" anymore, it's the middle.

The left hasn't really changed its principles, just its demographics.

Blogger sammibandit March 03, 2019 12:58 AM  

Does the American system allow for crossing the floor? The Canadian parliamentary system does and because of that you can't trust any party. It's too easy to cross the floor from one party to the next. Sure you personally suffer, but no one questions platforms that are close enough to allow floor crossing.

Blogger Johnny March 03, 2019 1:24 AM  

>>Does the American system allow for crossing the floor?

I don't know what you mean by crossing the floor. When the constitution was written, it was not anticipated that there would even be political parties. That was an after the fact surprise. Other than the self adapted internal rules in the House and Senate, I don't believe there is any recognition of parties at all in actual governance.

Blogger S1AL March 03, 2019 2:58 AM  

"I don't know what you mean by crossing the floor. When the constitution was written, it was not anticipated that there would even be political parties. That was an after the fact surprise."

No. The political parties *already existed*. Voting rights and political parties in the USA didn't just spring up out of the ground with the Constitution.

Blogger wreckage March 03, 2019 3:48 AM  

Anyone else find it funny how "let's all keep to ourselves, raise our families, and stay out of each other's territory" is INCENDIARY? Not like the pacifistic and tolerant philosophy of ruling the entire world and killing everyone who resists!

Blogger wreckage March 03, 2019 3:49 AM  

@30, in effect, yes. In fact it might be both easier and more common in the USA.

Blogger 1st Earl Hardwicke March 03, 2019 4:25 AM  

They're not really dead; They're Undead. As the article says, an amalgam, like Frankenstein or a mutated zombie horde, or NPC.

Blogger Amethyst Dominica March 03, 2019 4:39 AM  

OT, but it looks like the next big "Geekergate" might be coming down the pike. I don't know how many people here care about crazy Japanese cartoons, but a famous dub voice actor (Vic Mignogna) has been accused of acting like a heterosexual man and has been fired from his position at Funimation, thanks to his screeching SJW co-workers. Instead of apologizing, Vic has lawyered up and is now suing the gaggle of harpies for damages done to his career.


You may not care much about the man or his industry, but this will be a wonderful test case for seeing what happens when a Twitter Hugbox gets run over by the Freight Train of Real World litigation. Most of the SJWs involved are shooting their mouths off over Twitter and still can't believe that Vic's threat to drag them into court is real. Details are here:

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/weeb-wars-animegate-kickvic-vickicksback.53670/

Could this mean the end of Mean High School Girl Twitter Justice Mobs? We'll have to see...

Blogger FrankNorman March 03, 2019 5:54 AM  

that I would say is because you are asserting a value that their entire world view is based on rejecting -the idea that people other than themselves have any rights at all.

Blogger Stilicho March 03, 2019 7:28 AM  

@21 Jim, what you describe is a symptom of the left's pursuit of power as its only principle. It is who/whom all the way down for them and always has been. The sophomoric descriptions of "socialist principles" that are part of the narrative (and repeated eagerly even by many who oppose socialism) are nothing more than window dressing to fool or placate the masses. The left "innovates" or "progresses" only as cover for past failures or as cover for further power grabs. The current cycle is particularly ridiculous since much political power is being pursued through virtue signalling within the left, so it's a race to see who can be more outrageously extreme.

Blogger McChuck March 03, 2019 7:38 AM  

Everything I ever needed to know about Google is contained in the fact that they have a "US Public Policy" division.

Blogger Stilicho March 03, 2019 7:53 AM  

@McChuck- the irony is that the US govt likely created/promoted Google to control and direct the Narrative through the Internet and this frankenstein creature is now seeking to control and direct it's creator in service to a metastisizing Narrative.

Blogger ArtH March 03, 2019 10:27 AM  

His WSJ article of repentance for all the repressive legislation he and the Democrats created has been purposely ignored by the Left who previously supported him. The old Left still had some love for the country over the power that now dominates it.

Blogger Tars Tarkusz March 03, 2019 10:30 AM  

We now get to chose between 2 parties hostile to us and our interests. With white liberals being pushed aside in the party that hates us, they will end up as Republicans and steer them even more left than they already are.

Republicans are now the party of releasing black criminals from jail because white racism causes crime or something.

Blogger Damelon Brinn March 03, 2019 10:58 AM  

Did the Left ever really represent the working class, or was that always a pose that kept the votes coming so the academics and freaks could stay in control, similar to the Wall Street Republican pose in favor of small businesses and family values? I can't tell whether they're really changed, or it's just that the mask is coming off because they're getting dumber as they drive white men out of their leadership. They used to be led by savvy political operators like the Kennedys; now they're led by moronic women who don't even have the sense to use code words for things like socialism and man-hating.

Blogger Hammerli280 March 03, 2019 11:15 AM  

What I'm seeing is a major political reorientation, in both parties.

The Democrats, for the last hundred years, were dominated by the Wave 5 (~1890-1925) immigrants and their descendants. They are now being displaced by Wave 6 (~1960-present) immigrants and Blacks. The fight for control of the Democrat Party will be epic.

The GOP has always had a fight between the Plutocrat and Populist wings...but now, the Populist wing has gotten reinforcements from working-class Wave 5 descendants. Especially since we're into third and fourth generations that have outbred into the Old American population.

And I consider nationalism essential to keeping the peace. The United States has serious issues with both diversity and distance. Only maintaining a strong national identity (and showing those who reject it to the border) can forestall civil unrest.

Blogger Hammerli280 March 03, 2019 11:17 AM  

@43: I think the big shift in the Dems came around 1970. Rather like what is happening now, you have a bunch of young radicals who are grabbing control. And they do NOT like the Old Working-Class Folks.

Blogger CynicalMan March 03, 2019 1:09 PM  

@10 the American system was broken with the popular election of the States representatives to the federal government. That decision alone shifted the power of the states to Washington and fundamental broke the Federal system of government set up by the founders.

Blogger Lance E March 03, 2019 1:33 PM  

wreckage wrote:Anyone else find it funny how "let's all keep to ourselves, raise our families, and stay out of each other's territory" is INCENDIARY?

Yes, "leave us alone" is incendiary to a conqueror. Big surprise.

Damelon Brinn wrote:Did the Left ever really represent the working class, or was that always a pose that kept the votes coming so the academics and freaks could stay in control, similar to the Wall Street Republican pose in favor of small businesses and family values?

Both parties lie and have always lied, but lie for different reasons. Since Democrats represent the left, and the left is the group of the incompetent and undeserving clawing their way to power over their natural betters, they lie pathologically and universally about the world itself in a nonstop attempt to invert or subvert the natural order that would normally place them at the bottom. Republicans mainly just lie about themselves; they're cowards who pretend to be the leaders people genuinely desire, but once elected, fail to deliver because of their own greed and cravenness. They don't try to convince us that we live in a world in which their behavior is actually good, they just ask: "Who else you gonna vote for - the Democrat?"

It's true that the left never really represented the working class per se - just like the left doesn't really represent blacks, women, homosexuals or the extremely poor right now, and actually puts into place policies that are highly damaging to them and tends to keep them dependent on government. Revolutionary government in general doesn't have constituents, it has generals and cannon fodder. The "revolutionaries" are always killed or sent to camps after the revolution.

We know how Democrats treat these groups when they're actually a liability to Democrats, and that's not a DR3 argument; it's not about race, it's about utility.

Blogger Jeremius Rapp March 03, 2019 2:19 PM  

"They can't really tell you what they are for because there isn't popular support for what they want."

The Libs dropped their mask with the Green New Deal that would set up an environmental totalitarian state!

They are coming for Americans hamburgers!

Blogger Voracious Reader March 03, 2019 7:46 PM  

@44 A _fascinating_ analysis, Hammerli280. Are these your own distillations, or can you recommend where one could find out more about this demographic analyses?

I think you're on to something, especially with the Wave 5 descendants boosting the GOP Populist wing turnout. It certainly explains the Midwest voting numbers in the last election.

Will it continue into the '20 cycle? Such demographic and family history would certainly lean towards the same voters showing up again for Trump/GOP, and for more than one cycle. I'm curious to find out more about the thinking...

Kindest thanks for posting any answer you may wish. --VR, NoVa

Blogger Hammerli280 March 03, 2019 11:35 PM  

@49: The analysis is my own. It pays to study American history...and to be old enough to remember politics back to the 1970s. But the knowledge of history is more important, nobody lives long enough to note the long-duration cycles themselves.

Blogger dc.sunsets March 04, 2019 8:49 AM  

Why does Google have a head of U.S. Public Policy? Does the Roman Catholic Church have one? Does Johnson & Johnson?

War is here.

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