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Friday, April 19, 2019

Always get it in writing

Babydoc observes that the diversity dumbing-down rot is now infecting medicine:
I was just informed today that it didn't matter that my medical decision on a particular issue was correct, because "the reality is the perception of the nursing staff" who were upset because I made them feel stupid by showing them the correct answer.
Babydoc should be sure to ask for instructions for how to behave in the event of similar future conflicts in writing. A medical institution that is literally on the record stating that the feelings of the nursing staff are to be prioritized over the medical treatment of the patient is a massive malpractice suit in the making.

And if you're not terrified by these developments, you should be. Iatrogenic deaths are going to absolutely skyrocket now that diversity has invaded the medical sector.

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95 Comments:

Blogger papabear April 19, 2019 1:17 PM  

A whole bunch of Indian doctors have been imported in the San Francisco Bay Area -- not sure if it's primarily to cut costs or to "serve a certain demographic" but it is annoying to try to find a non-Indian physician at one of the big HMOs.

Blogger Miguel April 19, 2019 1:21 PM  

UK people can confirm how racial and sexual diversity has been great for them

Blogger Matt April 19, 2019 1:22 PM  

I wouldn't want a doctor who doesnt make his suboordinates feel stupid

Blogger Martin Marprelate April 19, 2019 1:23 PM  

The medical sciences are increasingly worse and worse. Especially I hear in Britain where they hire diversity staff with questionable qualifications. Bad time to get sick I guess.

Blogger Jack Ward April 19, 2019 1:29 PM  

I would like to know which hospital this 'nursing' staff is associated with. Just in case I'm in the area and have an accident, or whatever, you see.

Blogger pyrrhus April 19, 2019 1:33 PM  

Nurses in the emergency room told me to go home when I had a ruptured appendix because they were sure it was a kidney stone..I refused to leave, and survived with a midnight operation...They also nearly inflicted lethal harm on one of our kids, but my wife physically prevented them from injecting the kid with a dangerous substance intended for a dying senior citizen....Don't ever trust them.

Blogger Kraemer April 19, 2019 1:34 PM  

A lot of European countries have two-tier healthcare systems: public/shitty and private/expensive. Id love to see a statistical breakdown in the diversity of private nursing staff versus public

Blogger DraveckysHumerus April 19, 2019 1:35 PM  

This phenomenom killed my dad. He went in to shim an early model artificial joint with a donor bone graft. The black technician insisted the doctor had ordered a four-minute sterilization procedure.

In fact, the written records clearly established fourteen-minutes time were ordered. The technician never recanted of course. The deficient sterilization introduced three major blood infections.

The hospital attempted to cover its error by subjecting dad to a radical overdose of anti-biotics. This among other things nuked his blood platlets. Dad was leaking everywhere including into his lungs which they attempted to drain by punching holes there which in turn also leaked. He was literally a writhing bloody mess.

All because of vibrant diversity, muh feelz and a failed effort to conceal truth. Sometimes even a writing won't save you -- be careful out there.

Blogger Noah B. April 19, 2019 1:42 PM  

When you look at stats concerning iatrogenic deaths keep in mind they usually only include known medical errors. They don't include hospital borne infections, adverse drug reactions, deaths from bedsores, etc. Those all get lumped into the "whoops" category. The overall death toll from modern medicine is horrendous.

Recent figures show that there are about 400 million guns in the US and 1.1 doctors; total gun-related deaths are about 30,000 per year and iatrogenic deaths about 100,000 if you include only the "medical error" category. Meaning that a doctor is at least 1200 times deadlier than the average firearm.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville April 19, 2019 1:45 PM  

Not to worry, the healthcare system in the US will collapse before the feelz kills it.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 19, 2019 1:47 PM  

It's not just human-side medicine that's in ghastly shape, (although human-side med has been attracting morons for some time).

Twenty years ago the Michigan State University's Veterinary program was ranked at number three in the US.

Today it is squatting on number thirteen and it is due entirely to the SJW head of admissions.

She will lift the rope ten feet in the air for a qualified white male and pull it down below the mat for unqualified LGBTQYASDFQWERY POC.

She has been doing this for the aforementioned twenty years. And she will keep on doing it until long after you'd be better off calling up Bing-Bong the Witch Doctor when your cow needs a calf pulled rather than a graduate of MSU's Vet School!!!

Blogger Warunicorn April 19, 2019 1:58 PM  

"the reality is the perception of the nursing staff"

Yeah. You know where they can stick that "reality"---clear up their precious, collective ass. Damn, Babydoc, if you were calm during all this, I applaud you.

Blogger Matt April 19, 2019 2:00 PM  

They should be recruiting only the hottest doctors. I picked my dentist based on her hotness and haven't had any issues.

Blogger Yordan Yordanov April 19, 2019 2:02 PM  

Most people are worried about Medieval 2.0...I'm worried about Bronze Age Collapse Remastered Edition.

Blogger pdwalker April 19, 2019 2:04 PM  

making Witchdoctors great again.

all hail diversity!

Blogger Jacob April 19, 2019 2:06 PM  

It must be hell to be made to feel stupid, and know it's true.

Blogger Kat April 19, 2019 2:09 PM  

Matt wrote:I wouldn't want a doctor who doesnt make his suboordinates feel stupid

You also don't want a doc who can't work with nurses.

Admittedly a lot of my experience is in labor and delivery, but the OB comes around periodically to check on things and occasionally recommend a course of action. It's the nurses who have eyes on you most of the time, and a good nurse gets a feel for when things just need a little more time or when things are starting to look hinky.

Blogger Doktor Jeep April 19, 2019 2:13 PM  

It's not just medical. At a shooting even I noted some people were putting things in the wrong places and three times I had to track down the owners of the equipment - yes guns - and tell them where to put it.
One of them complained about "the way" I was telling them.
And I said "If this is going to be about feelings, then let me know so I can show you how little I care".
These people were cops. But as a range officer, on my range, well even God is not going to violate our safe handling rules.

Blogger Cinco April 19, 2019 2:20 PM  

I had it explained to me by a African American that raicial quotas in the medical profession matter because the level of treatment between any two doctors who pass medical school is roughly equivalent. I asked him if it mattered that doctors conduct studies to determine viability of treatments and that of one medication over another, and that in the aggregate medical adavancments will decline. His reply, “what does aggregate mean?”

And that is what we are dealing with. Idiots will most likely vote for idiocy.

I can think of no better way to guarantee out liberty than to immediately strip stupid people of their voting rights. I am open to suggestions as to how to measure intellect and voting, but in the end I think net worth adjusted for inflation may be the ticket. It’s not perfect, but this can not continue.

Blogger Servant April 19, 2019 2:24 PM  

I'd prefer a doctor who made me feel stupid. Unfortunately that is hard to find.

Blogger Dr. J April 19, 2019 2:28 PM  

The magnitude of this problem is nearly beyond repair. There's a good chance getting good medical care will be near impossible. A few of the factors at play:

1. More women in medicine who subsequently go part-time or quit altogether, which compounds the physician shortage from the...

2. Training bottleneck - the old white guy boomers are retiring, but residency slots haven't been expanded to match the aging populace. Too few physicians that are replaced by 3rd world visa docs, PAs, and Nurse Practitioners, which compounds the...

3. Brain drain. Smart folks don't go into medicine anymore. It's a losing proposition to spend the 8-12 productive years in med school/residency/fellowship, build up $300K+ in debt to hit low to mid six figures salary when you finally finish in your early 30's. Only a handful of physicians earn 1990's money today. The declining intellect of physicians has led to...

4. The employed model. Docs become employees of giant health organizations, rather than run their own practices. These lazy salaried folks aim to work as little as possible. At the same time, the institutions are becoming catastrophically converged (looking at you Mayo). We all know how that impacts their primary functions.

The resulting medical care crisis will probably get so bad that everyone will demand the government step in. Which as usual will come up with a solution that is much, much worse.

Blogger JimR April 19, 2019 2:29 PM  

Took a while to find a white doc when I moved, it was worth it. Sorry Pajeet, I just can't trust you.

Blogger Scott Free April 19, 2019 2:32 PM  

papabear wrote:A whole bunch of Indian doctors have been imported in the San Francisco Bay Area

It's not just the SFBA. I live in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere in the Northeastern USA. More than half the doctors at all of the local hospitals up here are Indian now. They're not just importing them into the US, they're importing them directly into the medical schools, displacing the local candidates and preventing us from training doctors who actually grew up here.

Blogger The Deuce April 19, 2019 2:38 PM  

If he can get it in writing, could he then bring said writing to someone even higher up, and then threaten to inform the patient of said writing unless all the individuals responsible for the writing are fired? Seems like this might be turned into an opportunity to purge some SJWs.

Blogger maniacprovost April 19, 2019 2:39 PM  

Well, an IBM mainframe operated by Medicare will be making all treatment decisions soon anyway.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma April 19, 2019 2:40 PM  

This is merely one tip of the ice cold Goldberg.
Most medicine is a scam, like the rest of modern society, they poison and defraud you while claiming to help.
Diversity is not intended or qualified to do the job effectively. The good ones are there to take money and feel special and equal. The bad ones are there to harm you.
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https://infogalactic.com/info/Iatrogenesis
In the United States estimated deaths per year include: [24][25] [26][27]

12,000 due to unnecessary surgery
7,000 due to medication errors in hospitals
20,000 due to other errors in hospitals
80,000 due to nosocomial infections in hospitals
106,000 due to non-error, negative effects of drugs

Based on these figures, iatrogenesis may cause 225,000 deaths per year in the United States (excluding recognizable error). An earlier Institute of Medicine report estimated 230,000 to 284,000 iatrogenic deaths annually.[24]
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2012
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2167742/GlaxoSmithKline-pay-3b-fine-pleading-guilty-healthcare-fraud.html
GlaxoSmithKline to pay $3billion fine after pleading guilty to healthcare fraud - the biggest in U.S. history
GlaxoSmithKline paid U.S. medics to prescribe potentially dangerous medicines to adults and children.

It handed out cash as well as everything from Madonna concert tickets to pheasant-hunting trips. Authorities branded GSK as ‘cheaters who thought they could make an easy profit at the expense of public safety, taxpayers, and millions of Americans’.

Blogger Daniel April 19, 2019 2:41 PM  

The reality is the perception of the patient's attorney.

Blogger KBuff April 19, 2019 2:47 PM  

I'm still awaiting the day when I'm no longer amazed by stuff like this. We see it every day. Large portions of the population appear to be delusional or moronic. I'd laugh if it weren't all so pathetic.

Blogger BillD April 19, 2019 2:57 PM  

I had a doctor appointment recently. It was interrupted by a call from a nursing home concerning medication changes for a patient. My poor guy was totally exasperated by the stupidity of the calling party, struggling in vain to get a straight answer to a simple question.

I want to die at home, out of the reach of dimwitted drones.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma April 19, 2019 3:10 PM  

Are you unhappy since the fairy tales you were propagandized into all turned out to be false?
Obviously you have a chemical imbalance in your brain. Take this magic potion to fix your mind.

Do you have trouble focusing on boring nonsense and struggle to believe blatant lies?
We have a treatment for that.

Do you find people parroting NPC inanities to be uninteresting or irritating?
I got a pill for you.

Blogger Rickaby007 April 19, 2019 3:12 PM  

Australian here. We now have hundreds of so called 'nursing' colleges that literally give the answers to students. They literally copy paste their work. Then they get to go off and work in hospitals. At the same time, you have 130 IQ university grads competing with them for the same job -- and usually coming off second best because DIEversity matters! It's a race to the bottom, here. Now, I'm just waiting to see what happens in 10 years once the average nurse is some 80 IQ thirdworlder with a faeces covered wiping hand.

It's all an absolute joke. HONK HONK!

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Blogger The Scribe April 19, 2019 3:16 PM  

I was listening to a report the other day on this new candida bacteria that seems invulnerable, and contemplating the horrible idea we could soon be living in a post-antibiotics world.

But now, seeing doctors probably won't be able to practice real medicine without hurting the feelz of [vibrant and diverse] staff members, it doesn't matter if an antibody works or not.

Which kills us first, PC or superbugs?

Blogger Avalanche April 19, 2019 3:27 PM  

I got a huge 'deer-in-the-headlights' response when a neighbor was discussing taking his daughter to a doctor and I suggested he make sure to avoid black doctors. He already knew I am way more open about such things that he was; he rolls his eyes when we grocery shop together and I insist on the checkout line with the white checker. He has also started looking for that on his own too -- they're quicker and more polite!

But, I asked him the old joke -- except it's NOT a joke; it's advice on how to live. What do they call the man who graduates as number 500 in a 500-person med-school graduating class? They call him doctor! I pointed out that the chances of a flamingly, dangerously incompetent negro being held back or failed out of ANY medical school in this country is nil. That's hugely bad for the actual competent blacks who might graduate in the top, say, third of the class? But the majority of those doctors, TOO, vote for the obamination, and march for affirmative action, and complain that too many of their brothers are in jail... I would never willingly go to a black doctor!

And has anyone found a single one of those urgent care clinics that is NOT almost entirely dot-indian staffed? Your best bet it to stay healthy!

Blogger Bobiojimbo April 19, 2019 3:31 PM  

Feels before reals.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len April 19, 2019 3:32 PM  

Iatrogenic deaths are going to absolutely skyrocket now that diversity has invaded the medical sector.

That is terrifying, as medical mistakes are already the 3rd leading cause of death in the US: "According to a recent study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer."

Blogger papabear April 19, 2019 3:34 PM  

@23

"---- it" It's time to start sorting and throwing people out.

Blogger Rickaby007 April 19, 2019 3:43 PM  

>And has anyone found a single one of those urgent care clinics that is NOT almost entirely dot-indian staffed? Your best bet it to stay healthy!

Not to mention that you should learn basic med yourself. Also, most of what doctors do is prescribe pills that are mostly unnecessary and in many cases unhealthy. You don't really need a doctor -- unless you require the emergency or ICU unit.

Blogger BastionHarm April 19, 2019 3:46 PM  

I'm still awaiting the day when I'm no longer amazed by stuff like this. We see it every day.

Seems like we are seeing it everyday now.

Just 10 minutes ago, I (thankfully!) happened to look outside to witness the diversity hire for Amazon deliver the most recent book I ordered.

It was pouring down rain.

The book was just a bit too large to fit into my mailbox.

So...what does she do?!

She puts it on the ground next to the mailbox. In the friggin grass with no overhead cover!!

Of course!!

I mean, she could've done what the mailman always does (and other Amazon delivery personnel - the white ones at least!) and walk 20 feet to put the package on my covered porch.

No, that would probably be too much effort for this particularly stupid and lazy sheeboon.

Thankfully, I was able to retrieve the package before the book got water-damaged, but it would have had I not happened to be looking outside right as she was dropping it off (literally!)

I honestly cannot wait for this whole shit-show of lies, debt, and deception to come tumblin' down in flames.

Blogger weka April 19, 2019 3:47 PM  

Go one payer and you will get that collapse. Good and hard.

Blogger liberranter April 19, 2019 3:53 PM  

A medical institution that is literally on the record stating that the feelings of the nursing staff are to be prioritized over the medical treatment of the patient is a massive malpractice suit in the making.

Only until malpractice suits are outlawed - because they make medical staff "feel bad."

And if you're not terrified by these developments, you should be. Iatrogenic deaths are going to absolutely skyrocket now that diversity has invaded the medical sector.

I hate to be blunt, but anybody who claims that they couldn't see this situation coming YEARS AGO is a fucking moron.

Blogger Just a Quiet, Homeless Girl Living in a Fallen World April 19, 2019 3:58 PM  

Weird. It's usually not other people who make me feel stupid. It's me being stupid that makes me feel stupid.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 19, 2019 4:03 PM  

I was nearly killed by nursing staff after last delivery. Nurse wasn't writing down what she was giving me: overdosed on painkillers. Then she wrote a scrip for an opiate that she wasn't licensed to write for. It was filled by tech not licensed to dispense it. Then it was fulfilled and given by a nurse who wasn't licensed to give it to patients. You may guess the complexions of all the people involved.

I am alive because my four year old daughter was with me. She was excited about watching a charming Nickolodeon tweeny movie, and she wanted to make sure I saw all the good lines. When I kept falling asleep, she'd wake me. Once I figured out what was going on, I called the nurse and the kitchen for as much coffee as possible. The kitchen responded. The nurse did not.

I'd been a tech at a research company. The techs would sit bedside all night with the clients testing opiates for surgery. They would stop breathing. They'd nod off and stop breathing. Someone would nudge them, all night long, until the medicine wore off. Ones who wanted out would ask for coffee.

The worst is that the company rotated out experienced techs, and then continued on with testing. The new techs did not know they had to stay on a vigil with test subjects. I had to tell them. They thought this was a ridiculous over-worrying concern, right up to a guy nodding off, losing oxygen, while on the phone with someone. After that, they stayed parked at the bedside.

The nurse did not respond at all, all night, not even for hourly rounds. For anyone, all parents of newborns, at the most crowded time of the year.

For the rest of the stay at the hospital, husband was careful to keep a child with me at all times- teens. He had to work.

Nurses have asked daughter since then why or how she knew to keep me awake.

They were all fired. But they'd had complaints before me. Why would they keep nurses with complaints?

I threw out all the letters from the hospital: I was so sick and horrified and scared. I heard about the firings from other nurses who knew my kids' teachers at school.

It was so awful and disorienting. I was already so scraped up-brutal pregnancy. I told my husband. He told the head nurse. She interviewed me with him right there. Then she got her supervisor and the supervisor listened. Apparently, it was worse than what I knew about or understood.

Blogger liberranter April 19, 2019 4:04 PM  

The magnitude of this problem is nearly beyond repair. There's a good chance getting good medical care will be near impossible.

Things here in the U.S. are very nearly at that stage now. There is a reason why "medical tourism" abroad is becoming a growing industry. Those of us who live near the southern border will attest that quality medical and dental care is readily available on the other side of it, for a fraction of the cost and with NONE of the hassle you regularly encounter north of the border due to ObamunistCare and the evils of the insurance mafia.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 19, 2019 4:06 PM  

I would think, alongside David the Good's farming books, affordable first aid and then nursing books would be a thought to publish. Some textbook writers work to make books intimidating via high-flown word choices- I've read interviews like that- while more early entry books simplify themselves into uselessness. A clearly written set of medical books might not be a bad idea

I do know that Amazon reviews and some bulletin boards are working as a sort of collective health education for people.

Blogger liberranter April 19, 2019 4:15 PM  

@ #8:

PLEASE tell us that you sued (or are suing) these incompetent, murderous fucktards into ruin.

@ 34:

Yup, EXACTLY. Having been married into the "dark demographic" in a previous, benighted life, I can tell you that the way they treat EACH OTHER is horrifying enough. Trusting your well-being to them as a white person is just foolishly and suicidally reckless. It's not just medical staff either; I avoid dealing with them at all costs for ANYTHING of any importance.

Blogger peacefulposter April 19, 2019 4:20 PM  

In this age of feminism and multiculturalism, good luck finding a white male doctor.

Blogger Silent Draco April 19, 2019 4:25 PM  

Avalanche, I just broke something laughing:

"And has anyone found a single one of those urgent care clinics that is NOT almost entirely dot-indian staffed?"

Urgent []. Dot Indians.

You get urgent [] only when their dot is from your laser sight. The urgent [] will be wrong, but there's some amusement from the scurry.

Blogger Beans April 19, 2019 4:31 PM  

Well, considering how many doctors don't listen when the nurses are right, or the patients are right, this doesn't surprise me.

I got quietly yelled at by my family doc when I openly cussed out and fired the pulmonary doc that tried to kill my wife. My doc admitted I was right but that I did it in the wrong way. Afterwards several of the ICU nurses thanked me for firing the one doc as that saved my wife and two other patients that day. (Doc flounced off in a huff and left, requiring an on-call doc be called in pronto, on-call doc knew her stuff, flouncing doc didn't know squat.)

So... well... what was my point again?

Blogger Hammerli 280 April 19, 2019 4:32 PM  

The terrifying thought is that this cancer might spread to engineering. Medicine has always had a certain amount of Arrogant Doctor Syndrome and PC...ask Dr. Semmelweiss about it (he was the man who pointed out that doctor-spread infections were the leading cause of death in childbirth).

But an engineer? It HAS to be done right, you'll kill a lot of people otherwise.

Blogger James Dixon April 19, 2019 4:34 PM  

> pull it down below the mat for unqualified LGBTQYASDFQWERY POC.

You misspelled POS.

> It’s not perfect, but this can not continue.

It won't. But it's not going to be fun while it lasts.

> There's a good chance getting good medical care will be near impossible.

It already is in many areas.

> ...and contemplating the horrible idea we could soon be living in a post-antibiotics world.

That's an almost certainty. It's only a question of how long we have. However, candida is a fungus, not a bacteria.

> And has anyone found a single one of those urgent care clinics that is NOT almost entirely dot-indian staffed?

Yes, but I'm not going to say where, for purely selfish reasons.

Blogger weka April 19, 2019 4:50 PM  

Doea not work that way. Nurse cwelings can get senior docs moved on and SJW complaints can get you sacked.

Human rights acts only work one way.

There is a reason i work the unpopular jobs in my specialty.. It was not by cboice.

Blogger weka April 19, 2019 4:53 PM  

No. Read the bloody guidelines (disclosure i weote some of them)

Talking theraoy is better than medications. Mesicatio a have aide effects. Docs know that... Nurse practitioners generally do not.

Blogger Mark Stoval April 19, 2019 5:08 PM  

... Iatrogenic deaths are going to absolutely skyrocket now that diversity has invaded the medical sector. - VD

I could not agree more on that statement. It is added to the preexisting problem of government control of medicine and Big Ag plus Big Pharma using billions to push pure myths that are dangerous to our health.

My late father-in-law told me 40 years ago to never believe a doctor just because he is a doctor. They lie and they are often just wrong when they do try to tell the truth.

As the old saying should go ---> patient, heal thyself.

Blogger tublecane April 19, 2019 5:13 PM  

"If you wanna get sick, go to the hospital"

-folk wisdom

Blogger tublecane April 19, 2019 5:16 PM  

I thought Theranos was supposed to take care of all this. Or so glossy magazine covers informed me a few years ago.

Blogger Unknown April 19, 2019 5:29 PM  

the de-civilizing continues unabated...

Blogger KG April 19, 2019 5:32 PM  

When I was put up for a week (American hospital) the head nurse lady (blonde American woman) took on my care individually, despite being very pregnant, because she didn’t trust the young Asian girl nurse assigned to me. The Asian kept giggling and stumbling over words the whole time, really inappropriate response to someone suffering a serious problem. I understood why, yeah a young guy in good shape instead of a fat old homeless man for once, but if a male nurse acted like that around a female patient he would not have been tolerated, and likely fired. Thank the lord for that head nurse, an actual blonde angel Valkyrie if I ever saw one.

Blogger KG April 19, 2019 5:47 PM  

Having known (and “dated”) some of the chicks that work in the pharmaceutical engineering field (or whatever tf it’s called, the people that physically create medicines in a lab), we have been entrusting our health to some absolutely irresponsible idiots. Along with being apparently only Indian or asian, these “scientists” openly don’t care about anything but making their company money, and most of them are alcoholics that drink on the job and instagram it. It’s horrifying (plus they all say “I don’t want a baby, but ours would be gorgeous” because they want it mixed with a tall white with colored eyes. You’re just breeding stock to them)

Blogger chronoblip April 19, 2019 5:53 PM  

Hammerli 280 wrote:The terrifying thought is that this cancer might spread to engineering. Medicine has always had a certain amount of Arrogant Doctor Syndrome and PC...ask Dr. Semmelweiss about it (he was the man who pointed out that doctor-spread infections were the leading cause of death in childbirth).

But an engineer? It HAS to be done right, you'll kill a lot of people otherwise.


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Blogger Hammerli 280 April 19, 2019 6:00 PM  

I'll add that a competent RN is a big help. The problem is that nursing is a field that has major-caliber bipolar disorder. It's a white-collar profession that is run as a blue-collar hourly job.

Blogger MichaelJMaier April 19, 2019 6:15 PM  

Matt wrote:They should be recruiting only the hottest doctors. I picked my dentist based on her hotness and haven't had any issues.

I did that... got one visit and she moved to Chicago. I got stuck with Urkel pulling my tooth instead of a gorgeous angel.

Dumb part was... he barely touched it and it fell out. He said if I'd tried, I could have pulled it out myself by hand.

Blogger One Deplorable DT April 19, 2019 6:26 PM  

In her last year of nursing school my friend's class took a short trip to Panama. The students were told that while they were visiting a local hospital they were not to make any suggestions or comments which would appear to "correct" the staff because it would hurt the staff's feelings and make them feel inferior to American trained nurses.

She then proceeded to tell me about some of the horrors they witnessed.

At the time I thought "well...that's in Panama." Then she started working in America and telling me those stories.

@19 - I am open to suggestions as to how to measure intellect and voting, but in the end I think net worth adjusted for inflation may be the ticket. It’s not perfect, but this can not continue.

That might be worse than what we have now, and will almost certainly exclude the majority of those above 130 SD15.

Looking at voting stats the best quick fix would be to simply repeal the 19th.

@26 - Love & Other Drugs wasn't fiction.

@31 - It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside to know that it's not just IT that's being destroyed by cheaters and DIEversity.

No...wait...I seem to be confusing seething rage with warm and fuzzy. My bad.

@50 - Might spread to engineering? Do the 737 MAX or a pedestrian bridge in Florida ring any bells?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 19, 2019 6:30 PM  

"You also don't want a doc who can't work with nurses."

I'd much rather have a doc who can't work with nurses than one who fails to teach them who's boss when the situation requires it.

"These people were cops. But as a range officer, on my range, well even God is not going to violate our safe handling rules."

Good for you. Our TMs would tell us that they'd kick us off the range during quals for any violation, FFI, or infringement, down to and including them not liking our faces.

I wouldn't have it any other way. Too many morons about.

Anyone complaining like your example would have been instantly told to "get the f*** off my range and have fun explaining to your duty section why you're not qualified for six months".

Blogger sammibandit April 19, 2019 6:53 PM  

Not the best sample source but I notice those hurt tend to be elder men or perinatal women. These are the people I would want to hurt if I wanted to hurt a population through medical means. No one to teach boys to be men and no one to birth boys.

Blogger TMLutas April 19, 2019 7:01 PM  

A little tip, you can ask for your x-ray films on disk and read them yourself. You won't catch the subtle stuff but then there's the other times.

The image format is going to likely be DICOM and you can download free readers for that.

Eventually, We'll be sorting out the competent from the incompetent via open source intelligence methods. It'll be healthgrades on steroids with patient charts forming the datasets the AI works from. Until then, do the best you can and speed the day until we can get a working credentialing system up and running again.

Blogger Aeroschmidt April 19, 2019 7:07 PM  

My grandma died from malpractice on the doctors part. Recommended she take Advil... then died from sepsis.

You should take everything in that industry with a grain of salt, no matter how highly degreed. I only go when I need a drug the drug dealer won't let me buy.

Blogger tublecane April 19, 2019 7:20 PM  

@61- True, in the sense that they're responsible for lives. Which are complex things. Some can slide by working like it's no more complicated than waitressing. In fact, there probably are plenty of girls who have to decide between jobs like waitressing and going to community college for a couple of years to become a nurse.

What is the difference between the two? Two years of tuition? And some who actually have nursing as a calling.

Blogger justaguy April 19, 2019 7:23 PM  

We may not be in the golden age of medicine, but we are still developing more and more cures to various cancers and common "used to kill" problems. The average number of years of life after diagnosis for for different types of cancer keeps going up, heart attacks do not kill nor disable as many, and the average age of living once one has made it to 60 is still quite long, at at least much better than when we were born.

The cultural gap in advanced technology competencies used to be openly discussed and studied-- now it is not allowed. I wish that the society still treated life with the reverence that a Christian society gave it, but alas that is not the case. Yes I agree that the medical/doctor situation should be much better. We have the capability and knowledge to prevent what is discussed above, but the needless deaths are not important . Look to Europe which actively ends life in old age. The priorities of our civilization at this point is not keeping the aging population that is overwhelmingly white alive. It is only how to get more votes for the rulers.

Blogger Kristophr April 19, 2019 7:37 PM  

Cinco: I can think of no better way to guarantee out liberty than to immediately strip stupid people of their voting rights. I am open to suggestions as to how to measure intellect and voting, but in the end I think net worth adjusted for inflation may be the ticket. It’s not perfect, but this can not continue.


Require prospective voters to be a citizen, and to pay $100,000 cash out of their own pocket for their ballot ( and make it lawful for someone who is paid to vote to just keep all the money ).

Blogger tublecane April 19, 2019 7:40 PM  

@21- About the employed model, reading novels and stories about doctors from the mid-20th century (not long ago I finished one about Pennsylvania coal country during the Influenza pandemic), you find docs going from house to house with black bags. Actually knowing their patients. As members of the community, not as customers who have stopped by before.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 19, 2019 7:42 PM  

Beans wrote:I got quietly yelled at by my family doc when I openly cussed out and fired the pulmonary doc that tried to kill my wife.

Docs and cops both protect the incompetent or evil subset that make them all look bad.

We saw one exception to that when we took my son to a doctor's office. The old White doc who ran it wasn't in that day, so we saw a young Chinese MD. He said that the old dude had missed my son's asthma because he was too deaf to use a stethoscope and too proud to admit it. He said it in Chinese to my wife - I doubt he would have said it in English. In-group preference for Chinese out-weighed in-group preference for fellow MDs.

Hammerli 280 wrote:But an engineer? It HAS to be done right, you'll kill a lot of people otherwise.

It's not that the diversity hasn't spread to engineering, it's just that the consequences of diversity are so hard to cover up in our field.

MDs quietly bury their mistakes one at a time. Engineers don't get to bury their mistakes.

Blogger Brick Hardslab April 19, 2019 7:54 PM  

How can I read your blog cataline? I can't find the new one

Blogger Brett baker April 19, 2019 7:56 PM  

Those vets treat kitties and puppies, maybe horsies, not valuable livestock, thank God.

Blogger Pierre April 19, 2019 8:00 PM  

Vox kicked the theory of evolution by natural selection out but the damn thing is creeping back in.

If we want our genes to stay in the pool we better make sure to learn how to assess the competence of doctors by quick visual inspection.

Blogger Jed Mask April 19, 2019 8:10 PM  

Ouch...

Blogger camcleat April 19, 2019 8:42 PM  

@45

"I would think, alongside David the Good's farming books, affordable first aid and then nursing books would be a thought to publish...A clearly written set of medical books might not be a bad idea"

I've found an older US Army Medic Manual to be very useful in this regard, at least for acute / traumatic treatments. Not going to be much good for chronic stuff.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 19, 2019 9:27 PM  

#77. Thank you for this suggestion. I've been hampered by not knowing what to get, or where to look.

Blogger Doug Cranmer April 19, 2019 9:34 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:

MDs quietly bury their mistakes one at a time. Engineers don't get to bury their mistakes.


You're thinking of older traditional engineering where we built things. Like bridges, mines, steel plants, etc. The Canadian Iron Ring and the Kipling ceremony that goes with it is intended to reflect that. Make a mistake and people will die. I worked in one of those industries in days past and you absolutely bet it was taken seriously. Incompetence will get people killed and you will go to prison.

Compare that to today. Some machine learning "engineer" at Amazon or Google. A Chan or Pajeet with absolute no knowledge of Western engineering tradition, and worse, an complete contempt for it. It's just one more Western idea to game and play the people who take it seriously for fools.

These people will run a company into the ground without thought. Without consideration of the impact on employees with families, homes, debts. The West is just a place to loot and plunder for as long as they can and when things go to crap they can just light back to home overseas.

That's engineering today. And you see the consequences in the headlines if you know enough what to look for. We've certainly discussed enough examples on this blog.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 19, 2019 9:53 PM  

The medical industry is insulated from supply, demand, competition, and results. It is therefore able to indulge in this insanity.

Blogger berb2000 April 19, 2019 10:11 PM  

This might be the most depressing thing I have ever read in my life.

Blogger berb2000 April 19, 2019 10:14 PM  

A friend an old good friend and I were having a chat the other day. We came to the conclusion that this insanity might just have to end in punitive street justice. It's not a joke anymore. It is not tolerable. Don't place me in an uncomfortable situation that is making me fear my existence and tell me that everything is ok you POS weirdo's. I am ok with weird, but this institutional weirdness has run its course. It is time for it to end.

Blogger cyrus83 April 20, 2019 12:48 AM  

This reminds me of a recent unplanned hospital visit where the floor nurse was required to get a single tube of blood for testing. Three nurses and 75 minutes later, the required vial was finally obtained through an agonizing draw in the knuckle. I would have been toast had the blood draw been a matter of life and death.

The really scary part isn't just that feelings and diversity are being favored over competence, it's that the mis-educated youth could probably be convinced to go back to shamans, witch doctors, herbal concoctions, and rituals as superior medicine to what we have now without too much effort by attacking modern medicine as white privilege and pharma greed and promoting the practices found in central Africa as natural, organic, green-friendly, ancient African wisdom, or whatever is trending.

Blogger MeneMene April 20, 2019 1:32 AM  

This from Stg58 bears repeating: "The medical industry is insulated from supply, demand, competition, and results. It is therefore able to indulge in this insanity."

Alternatives cost out-of-pocket but are worth it. Had a shoulder issue that kept me from lying down for a month and hurt without ceasing cured in one session with an Upledger Inst. certified cranio-sacral therapist (not a massage therapist who took a 2 hour cranio-sacral course.) The problem never recurred. $100.00. With the serious alternatives, the practitioners have to produce results.

Blogger Troushers April 20, 2019 1:54 AM  

Candida is only a danger because basic standards of hygiene and cleanliness have been discarded in favour of antibiotics, antibiotics, antibiotics, at least in the UK.

Next time you're unfortunate enough to visit, ask yourself - when was the last time THIS was cleaned? Wards themselves are cleaned daily, if you call passing a dirty mop over a surface cleaning, but common areas never are, so dirt and bacteria is tracked back in immediately.

Blogger God Emperor Memes April 20, 2019 3:32 AM  

This.

Blogger kurt9 April 20, 2019 11:00 AM  

I recommend the Longecity (www.longecity.org) Forums for information on DIY approaches to maintaining one's health. As someone who had medical issues in childhood that, in retrospect, turned out to be iatrogenic, I am very leery of the medical system as it was. These "diversity" and lowered standard issues simply make it even worse.

Blogger Jack of All Trads April 20, 2019 11:05 AM  

The only metric corp med cares about is patient satisfaction scores. There are now programs to combine team satisfaction scores with patient satisfaction scores to create:
TOTAL EXPERIENCE SATISFACTION
And....we know how this plays out

Blogger Jack of All Trads April 20, 2019 11:18 AM  

In Iraq, Afghan, and Africa, I was the doc, nurse, radiologist, pharmacist, and small procedure surgeon including dental. No BS regulations, no mental health forms, no interference. Cot side medicine out of a few med chests. No infections, no bad outcomes. This should work in US (home visit docs) but the bureaucratic evil makes it impossible.

Blogger Arap Suslec April 20, 2019 5:13 PM  

Kami is a nurse. She believed in vaccines and vaccinated her children. Her daughter got the mumps at college and came home. Kami had titers drawn for the rest of the family. She (Kami) had three MMR vaccines. Her titers showed she was considered "immune" to mumps. She got the mumps anyway. Four out of five members of her family got the mumps despite being "up to date" on their vaccinations. The department of health in their area had to notify the school that there was a student with the mumps.

Kami requested that they make sure they state he was vaccinated.
They REFUSED because they didn't want to fuel the "antivaxxers."

https://www.facebook.com/kami.schaal/videos/10216062869237562/

Blogger Up from the pond April 21, 2019 5:56 PM  

I worked for a hospital administrator about 15 years ago. The little rat who was the head of accounting was given the green light for his own cherished project: replace the white nursing staff with nurses from the Philippines.

He recruited these nurses himself, brought them to the U.S., put them up in cheap apartments. The hospital obligingly got rid of the white nurses. The white nurses made $50/hour. They had years, sometimes decades, of experience. They worked at multiple hospitals in the same system, including ours, so it was a matter of no longer requiring their services. The flips got paid $9/hour.

Fiscally responsible, right? NINE DOLLARS PER HOUR. For ICU nurses. Some of them couldn't speak English.

You can guess what sort of rat this accountant was. I mean, do you even have to ask?

Anyway, the hospital "suggested" (required) that all of us office employees contribute canned food to the flip nurses and also give money to a fund that helped to pay the rent on their apartments. The valued newcomers were going through a period of "adjustment" to their new country, you know, and all that. I was "requested" to write and blast-email these "suggestions" myself.

So I told the administrator to go to hell and haven't looked back. Don't want to know what became of that hospital in the 15 or so years since.

Just another wreck in the rearview mirror.

Hope the shekels were worth it.

Blogger Uncephalized April 22, 2019 2:14 AM  

@75 Pierre "Vox kicked the theory of evolution by natural selection out but the damn thing is creeping back in."

I don't think he did. He certainly raised some cogent and interesting objections to the modern orthodoxy on the actual mechanisms of mutation. However, when I listened to his Darkstream on the subject I found myself raising several objections to his logic; it seemed to me he wasn't addressing some possibilities. But I am hoping he will write a more detailed thesis on it so that I can examine it more closely and see if the holes are really where I think they are.

If he's already done so, I would very much appreciate someone pointing me to that, by the way. And consider this a humble request, Vox, if you haven't done so--made in the knowledge that you probably don't have the time or inclination to oblige me.

Blogger John Rockwell April 23, 2019 6:12 AM  

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Blogger dc.sunsets April 23, 2019 10:29 AM  

Medicine is a cartel system, obeys the Iron Laws of Monopoly, and has entered the "Black Hole" phase.

Idiocracy is not a comedy. Judge didn't "show us" the hospitals there.

Medical "practice" is essentially a trade, acquired via apprenticeship. Its relation to science is sketchy at best. In fact, residency is about learning medical dogma and never looking back. This is why the average IQ of physicians was 120 (I suspect this is now much lower due to Aff. Action and importation.) This means the typical doctor is a midwit, and non-White is likely of literally lower-than-average intelligence.

Arrogance + monopoly + declining standards. No surprise things spiral the drain. I sold drugs for a long time. I knew a few sharp docs, a bunch of Joe/Jane Blow docs and a substantial number of morons with M.D. behind their names.

Not ONE of them read the Full Prescribing Instructions of any drug they used. Remember that, esp. if you or your family member is on more than one or two chronic medications. These people rarely understand drug interactions.

Blogger John Rockwell April 23, 2019 11:56 AM  


Prevention is better than cure. In the future we need to take care of ourselves much better so that we don't need the doctor.

Because if we don't* our chances of survival dramatically declines.

*=correction

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