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Wednesday, April 17, 2019

Doomed to mediocrity

The USA increasingly embraces the idea that group identity is more important than merit:
Millennials and Generation Z believe representation of all races and religions in the workplace is more important than hiring based on merit, according to a new survey.

Roughly half (51 percent) of Millennials (age 22-39) and Generation Z (age 18-21) said that 'fair representation of race, ethnicity and religion is paramount to creating the ideal workplace,' according to the poll of 2,002 Americans conducted by John Zogby Strategies.

By comparison, 48 percent of Generation X (age 40-54) and 42 percent of Baby Boomers (age 55-74) agreed with that statement. Just 15 percent of Generation Z and 32 percent of Millennials agreed with the statement that 'merit and competition supersede all, even if that results in a workplace that creates minimal diversity.'

Meanwhile, 37 percent of Generation X and 45 percent of Baby Boomers said that merit is more important than diversity.

'There are really two opposing schools, I guess you could say that there's one that's on the side of progressive ideology, whereas the other one is more in line with the way business was always run,' Jeremy Zogby, a partner in Zogby Strategies, told DailyMail.com. 'There is definitely a progressive slant in Millennials and Gen Z.'

Among all Americans, 47 percent prioritized diversity in workplace hiring, while 37 percent said merit should matter most.
Just as identity politics trump ideology politics, mediocrity trumps merit in a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic society. Welcome to life as the Third World has always known it.

This, however, is a trend that you need not accept. Pursue excellence even as you embrace your identity.

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115 Comments:

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 17, 2019 11:10 AM  

Just a poll.

Never trust polls. Ever.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 17, 2019 11:23 AM  

Millenials believe this because they have little experience in how it works out in practice.

Blogger widlast washere April 17, 2019 11:24 AM  

Apparently stupidity is quickly becoming our "strength".

Hire the person who can get the job done. All other considerations are meaningless.

Blogger C April 17, 2019 11:25 AM  

I wonder. Millennials and Z's are the ones primarily reared in a society that pushes diversity over merit as gospel. They're in a society that openly punishes defiance, even if it isn't through society's law. Hazing, deplatforming, having assets frozen, whatever.

So, they see this option on the poll, see that the poll will be published, and fear reprisal for selecting otherwise in that poll. Is a poll whose results are informed by fear rather than objective consideration accurate and useful?

Blogger David The Good April 17, 2019 11:31 AM  

Insane.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 17, 2019 11:32 AM  

Zogby may as well have asked, "are you against racism?" Yes or No?

The diversity mantra is that deep at this point.

Blogger Nobody of Consequence April 17, 2019 11:36 AM  

_At_Our_Wits'_End_ - I've had the pleasure to tell these young folks just how ignorant they are, how even in university grades are inflated one full letter in the past 25 yrs and close to 3 grades since about 1950. I've "lovingly" argued with other parents when they talk about their kids doing Calculus in HS when all they kids do is punch some numbers into a calculator and get and answer. That ain't Calc. Get out you paper and pencil and work it out long hand. Then I might, just might, give some credit. We are fecked. These young people, Occasional Cortex as a prime example, are SOOOO ignorant they can't recognize just how little they know. It's like an old poster I once had. Goat on a mountain, alone, thinking "I'm so far behind I think I'm ahead!" Modernized - "I'm so fecking stupid I think I'm smart!"

Blogger Daniel April 17, 2019 11:37 AM  

How curious that the percentage of people who wish to be judged on something other than merit is the same percentage of people who are below or average in merit.

I'm actually surprised those who favor diversity aren't more abundant, considering the 80/20 Pareto Principle.

Blogger Daniel April 17, 2019 11:38 AM  

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Blogger David Ray Milton April 17, 2019 11:40 AM  

I looked for the actual poll to see who was questioned, but could not find anything. It would be interesting to know.

In my observation, “Diversity is grrreat!” Is how people talk and answer surveys, but when they see diversity in action they rightly become infuriated.

Blogger Nobody of Consequence April 17, 2019 11:46 AM  

Just a little fuel for the fire:

https://www.studyfinds.org/survey-children-dont-know-bananas-strawberries-grow-on-plants/

Similar to around 1980 when dairy farmers were dumping milk over low prices. People responded they didn't care, they got heir milk at the A&P. Also like a "female" told a friend how she hated hunting and said "People should get their meat the grocery store --- where they MAKE it!"

God help us!

Blogger The Cooler April 17, 2019 11:47 AM  

fair representation of race, ethnicity and religion

Fair... as in: Marked by impartiality and honesty; free from self-interest, prejudice, or favoritism? As in, consonant with... merit?

Lord Almighty, save us from the vacuous bafflegarble of the word wizards.

Blogger Colin Flaherty's baby momma April 17, 2019 11:49 AM  

Kucks have been trained to believe in salvation through their own self destruction, lessening guilt and raising righteousness by privileging adversaries and competitors.
You must submit to their rule and subject yourself to their abuse, or you are insane and evil.

The ultimate sin is hatred, which they tell us comes from pathological phobias, toward any counter-White identity or activity.

It's only fair, for the slavery and colonialism and wars and supremacy and going to the moon. (Does anyone believe they wouldn't have sent diversity to the moon by now to be the new hero explorers, scientists, etc. if they had the capability?)

Blogger Joe Smith April 17, 2019 11:50 AM  

I'd be interested to know how they selected their 2002 people to poll, too.

Blogger Pyrex April 17, 2019 11:52 AM  

Non-progressive millenial here. While the progressive push for fair representation at cost of merit is nonsensical to me, I also pause at the phrase "merit and competition supersede all". Mainly because I have yet to work for any employer who's metrics of merit were remotely close to capturing the skills and talents of my most highly skilled, highest-value-adding peers.

Blogger Mr. Naron April 17, 2019 11:53 AM  

It's because they've been taught an easily believed, but completely wrong premise: Lack of an identity group in an occupation or field of study is evidence of discrimination. Yet, as thoroughly ingrained as it is, even they don't believe it with any consistency. Just bring up sports and see how "it's different".

Blogger Brett baker April 17, 2019 11:56 AM  

Define "fair", MENA man.

Blogger PolitiCrump April 17, 2019 11:56 AM  

"But I thought Gen Z was the most conservative generation since the Silent generation"

Lol as if. I don't know who came up with this theory but all I know for sure is that Gen Z is the most diverse and least white generation in American history

Blogger dc.sunsets April 17, 2019 11:57 AM  

Another brick in the wall that the era of Big is dying.

Small (small firms, small markets, small political units, etc.) will inevitably be the weeds that spring up between the flagstones in the foundation of Big Business/Big Government/Big Media/Big Etc.

All roads lead to the collapse of scale. Ideology built it, and ideology will tear it to shreds.

By the way, Big (scale) all obeyed the Iron Laws of Monopoly, one of which is: Eventually, all monopolies become black holes where resources go in and nothing of value emerges. Already in the USA we see the life-expectancies of household appliances now half that of 40 years ago. As the Diversity Monopoly oozes into everything Big, soon nothing of value will emerge (schools are well on their way to this condition.)

Then will necessity become the mother of invention, ideology be damned.

Blogger Watchu talkin bout Willis April 17, 2019 11:57 AM  

Generations of indoctrination under the guise of "public education." Thanks, John Dewey.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel April 17, 2019 11:57 AM  

These cohorts (especially Gen Z) generally haven't been responsible for staffing an organization and producing results with their hires yet. That'll knock the delusions out of them.

Blogger 357Delta April 17, 2019 11:58 AM  

Doesn't Game Theory suggest that once other groups start doing this the only way to win is to do it as well?

Pursuing personal excellence is good, but then also support your own tribe at every opportunity?

Blogger Sweet, Sweet Victory April 17, 2019 12:01 PM  

So when they surveyed Gen Z they surveyed the white Gen Z or the kiked Gen Z?

It makes all the difference.

Blogger pyrrhus April 17, 2019 12:01 PM  

The Hive Mind at work....but I suspect that private opinions are somewhat more traditional regarding merit..If you worked at Google, would you answer this poll honestly?

Blogger FUBARwest April 17, 2019 12:02 PM  

Homeschool your kids. Dont let them be brainwashed. This is how we lose indoor plumbing.

Blogger dc.sunsets April 17, 2019 12:03 PM  

Case in point: The NRA is worried about institutional shareholders using their clout to control, tame and neuter sporting arms manufacturers. "Oh, they'll de-bank us. Oh, they'll drive our share prices down."

So the manufacturing of sporting arms, ammo and such goes private. The same can be said for higher ed and primary schooling. Once the Dinosaur Ideology squeezes hard enough, the balloon animal balloon just bulges somewhere else. If Bloomberg/Soros et. al. succeed well enough, local clubs dedicated to machining their own gun parts could easily spring up.

Big. Is. Over.

Blogger Borsabil April 17, 2019 12:03 PM  

The United States has it worse than any other western nation, with the exceptions of Canada and Australia. On the one hand they have almost no sense of nation based on ethnicity, and on the other the advent of a true multi racial society is so recent there has been no history of imposing a top down civic nationalist identity. All this poll does is confirm that we've now entered the period of escalating resource competition among groups, which will become particularly acute when the economy takes a downturn.

Europe will be fine. It's not just that the invasion is smaller and more manageable but that ethnic identity among the white populations still exists in a meaningful way. Latin America will be fine, in that they'll carry on living in dysfunctional societies dominated by high IQ Europeans ruling over brown retards who've been indoctrinated into accepting their fate. Australia, Canada and the US however are completely screwed. I would happily accept corruption and terrible infrastructure if it meant avoiding a mass die off, alas that's not in my future.

Blogger Barbarossa April 17, 2019 12:05 PM  

Such numbers makes one suspect that virtue signaling is expanding into OPBs (Other People's Businesses) and OPSs (Other People's Services). Hard to square the thought of a millennial leaving a one-star rating on Amazon for getting his solar-powered, Wi-Fi connected, fair trade juicing machine a day late with a tolerance for shoddy manufacture and poor customer service. Abysmal goods and treatment for thee not for xe.

But as we know, eventually one runs out of OPM, OPB, OPS, etc.

Blogger Warunicorn April 17, 2019 12:05 PM  

They are all doomed with that line of thinking. lol

Like swiftfox said, since it's a poll, I'd take it all with a grain of salt. Remember when Trump was supposed to lose to Hillary in a landslide?

Blogger Nate73 April 17, 2019 12:09 PM  

Tucker Carlsen talks about this in his book where an elite might care more about a Guatemalan immigrant who risked everything for a better life. That white Trump union worker meanwhile is probably just a racist. It's fascinating that a poll like that even exists putting merit vs racial diversity, as opposed to merit vs helping the poor of your-own-ethnic-group.

Blogger Starboard April 17, 2019 12:09 PM  

The next question is also interesting.
"They survey also asked each generation whether businesses should prioritize their impact on the environment or focus on growing jobs and satisfying stockholders."

I like how they added "satisfying stockholders" to "job creation" so the respondents knew which answer was higher in the virtue stack.

Delivery of goods and services is the last thing businesses are expected to prioritize.

Blogger Alexander April 17, 2019 12:12 PM  

Millenials and Gen Z also have largest percentages of invader and paper Americans. Of course they support group gibs.

What does Gen Z look like among Heritage America? What do they support.

I too am not in favor of pure merit. Merit, but only from among a preselected ingroup

Blogger Azimus April 17, 2019 12:15 PM  

Bah. Stupid poll. I'm sure if you said "Would you prefer electricity to come out of the receptacle, or would you prefer that the man who tinkers with it uselessly for hours is from East Africa," they would obviously prefer electricity.

It is useful as a weathervane to see whether reality is winning or losing in the minds of the young.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd April 17, 2019 12:19 PM  

A capable saboteur is worse than an incompetent loyalist.

Blogger Kuraudo April 17, 2019 12:20 PM  

There's also this: I'd rather hire a subpar fellow white than mystery meat exemplary employee.

Blogger horsewithnonick April 17, 2019 12:21 PM  

I have to take all these multi-generational surveys with a grain of salt, until one of them follows the respondents around for twenty years or so to observe how their attitudes evolve as a result of exposure to reality. Irrational idealistic optimism during prime childbearing years is arguably essential to the survival of the species.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd April 17, 2019 12:22 PM  

It applies if you control for diversity and only count the little shitlords

Blogger Welsh Woodsman April 17, 2019 12:35 PM  

They’ll believe in the glories of die-versity until their toilets don’t flush and their grocery shelves are bare

Blogger Tars Tarkas April 17, 2019 12:57 PM  

I would like to see more specifics. I would expect anyone who is either still in some school to be way more progressive than someone who graduated 10 years ago or more.

These are young people with little or no work experience whose only frame of reference is what their teachers and professors have drummed into their heads for 12-20 years.
I would expect these numbers to drop pretty steeply as they get more and more experience in the workplace, especially if they are in a US city and interact with a lot of diversity. BART refuses to release the footage of all of their violent muggings and attacks on the BART system because it makes African Americans look bad and might cause people to falsely come to the conclusion that when around blacks, never relax.

I don't see why anyone should be surprised in the least. "Diversity is our greatest strength" has been our mantra for the last 15 years. These kids have heard this shit ad nauseam all of their lives and have not been allowed to hear any other opinion on the subject. What can we say? Propaganda works.

Blogger Irish Energy April 17, 2019 12:57 PM  

They probably didn't know the meaning of the word merit .

Blogger Pinakeli April 17, 2019 1:06 PM  

That is part of why I no longer work in the aerospace industry.

It used to trigger some people when I said "God doesn't bless half assed. Do it right or don't do it".

Blogger Doktor Jeep April 17, 2019 1:08 PM  

Why nothing works right any more.
Ever been to countries where people behind the desks actually do their jobs, and you leave surprised?
Then come back to the USA where it seems like everybody working behind a desk has it out for everybody else.
Yeah. Like that.

Blogger Steve Canyon April 17, 2019 1:09 PM  

Most corporate work is busywork that doesn't add much value ot create anything. Easy credit contributes to this. Small wonder there this mindset prevails today. Yes, there are exceptions. Ask a machinist whether they hire by demographic or talent. It'll be vastly different than the answer from a bureaucrat or corporate drone.

This will not last. All parties must end. And it'll be ugly when this is no longer sustainable.

Blogger The Greay Man April 17, 2019 1:12 PM  

"But I thought Gen Z was the most conservative generation since the Silent generation"

Lol as if. I don't know who came up with this theory but all I know for sure is that Gen Z is the most diverse and least white generation in American history


It's never explained properly.

The white 13 year old gamer nerd boys are the generation Z that we hope are turning out to be conservative in a way we've never seen -- not just conservative, but rabid pro-European anti-feminist anti-diversity.

That is a small subset of Gen Z as a whole, which is non-white and stupid.

Blogger Tars Tarkas April 17, 2019 1:16 PM  

Nobody of Consequence wrote:Just a little fuel for the fire:

https://www.studyfinds.org/survey-children-dont-know-bananas-strawberries-grow-on-plants/



These are knowledge questions. I have seen banana plants on TV and they looked liked trees to me. But it turns out they are not technically trees, but tree-like plants. I've grown my own strawberries, potatoes, lettuce, tomatoes etc. But when I was kid (70s), victory gardening was still a thing. My back yard was like 20ft by maybe 20 to 23 ft. And a good deal of that was paved. There was a section about 10ft by 6ft that was completely filled with various vegetables and such planted by my mother and myself. Victory gardening was still pretty common back then. There were even TV shows about it. There were educational films about it at the library. They have had to remove them to make room for tranny story time though.

Blogger OGRE April 17, 2019 1:22 PM  

Pyrex wrote:I also pause at the phrase "merit and competition supersede all". Mainly because I have yet to work for any employer who's metrics of merit were remotely close to capturing the skills and talents of my most highly skilled, highest-value-adding peers.

This mid-40s X'er agrees with you whole heartedly. Rarely have I seen the most meritorious receive the most reward. But I don't necessarily think that merit is to be solely determined by productivity/profitability either. Humans value things other than just material gain, and those values filter into all their decisions including those that greatly impact their personal material gain. And I fear that the mantra of Merit Above All heavily suggests a moral aspect tied to a material one, that it is morally good to give the greatest reward to the one who offers the most material gain, regardless of other ethical considerations. The common conservative refrain of "the most qualified candidate should be hired/promoted" is an example of this, suggesting the moral rightness of that course of action, even though numerous scenarios could be imagined where that would be very unethical or even downright evil. (e.g. is it morally better to hire the childless playboy who spends his money on women and drink but who would bring in more new clients, or to hire the God-fearing family man who spends his weekends volunteering at soup kitchens and coaching little league?)

Blogger Ransom Smith April 17, 2019 1:29 PM  

Cross referenced for race, that makes perfect sense.

Blogger BastionHarm April 17, 2019 1:31 PM  

Where I work, I am more and more dropping the phrase "_____'s Law" on a daily basis (not filling in the blank with my real last name). When asked what "law" this is, I state that it is the law that demonstrates that there is an inverse relationship between quality and diversity.

I've yet to see any violations of this "law."

Blogger LP916 April 17, 2019 1:42 PM  

Oh Dear, either JP's boredom with his (deceptive mindscrew) low qual man mindset infected millions, the drastic applied IQ reduction explored or even worse the meds won.

This is abject Doom!

Blogger Calvin809 April 17, 2019 2:00 PM  

Performance metrics are perfect for getting employees to take shortcuts and fugde numbers to look better than they are. Nothing beats a good work ethic.

Blogger Yordan Yordanov April 17, 2019 2:04 PM  

On the bright side, this may lead to people reembracing Freedom of Association.

Blogger NO GOOGLES April 17, 2019 2:06 PM  

@38
Then they'll find someone else to demonize or just blame it on "bad luck".
@18
The white portion of it is. You have to remember while the US is maybe 60% white, Gen Z is significantly less so - probably less than half white. Of course the nonwhite Gen Zers want gibs - when has it ever been otherwise?

@19
This is off topic a bit, but the biggest reason that appliances have become cheaper and less reliable is a combination of a) there's a lot of people who can't afford mid-range or top of the line appliances, encouraging more production of cheap stuff and b) energy efficiency regulations.
Yeah, your 50s Frigidaire can last 40 or 50 years but it uses a boatload of power. That doesn't actually matter that much really - power is pretty cheap (until the government makes it more expensive with unnecessary regulation and "green" initiatives).
There were fewer manufacturers back then and fewer models, which made the logistics of stocking and getting parts pretty simple. Plus, it's a mindset thing - I work in a context where I interact with people who mostly repair things and there are vanishingly few paper Americans - mostly just whites. Diversity doesn't fix the dryer or freezer when it goes on the fritz - they just get a new one. A lot of whites do too - but more whites are willing to cultivate the basic skills to at least attempt making repairs. The world has gotten ever more specialized too and that's a big part of it.

Blogger LP916 April 17, 2019 2:06 PM  

40's correct I missed the point in a post literate world, the word wont hold meaning just like a herd mass attraction to a symbol unlike the Cross but the signs of the world and its merit rat race.

Blogger James Dixon April 17, 2019 2:15 PM  

> Millennials and Generation Z believe representation of all races and religions in the workplace is more important than hiring based on merit,

Yet isn't it strange how it's always OK to exclude one gender, one race, and one religion from that diverse group?

> They’ll believe in the glories of die-versity until their toilets don’t flush and their grocery shelves are bare

At which point it will be too late. God is just, even if we aren't.

Blogger Calvin809 April 17, 2019 2:16 PM  

Sure they do...racism

Blogger RCR_Chris April 17, 2019 2:18 PM  

Like most narrative driven polls, this one is more full of crap than a Thanksgiving turkey.

Blogger Nate April 17, 2019 2:18 PM  

How many of them really believe this and how many of them are simply giving the answer they have been taught to give reflexively while suppressing a gag reflex?

Blogger JDC April 17, 2019 2:21 PM  

Must be the same people behind the statement that pops up on AC Odyssey:

...this work of fiction was designed, developed, and produced by a multicultural team of various beliefs, sexual orientations and gender identities.

Apparently this is important for some - when murdering Spartans, Athenians, boars, lions, merchants, priests, priestesses, your sister (brother), your mother, your father, Medusa, a Minotaur, a cyclops that in doing so (which I love BTW, a great game) that a man who believes he is a woman contributed to the development of the story.

Blogger sammibandit April 17, 2019 2:21 PM  

A lot of Gen Z come to my shop because I have 2 campuses near it. If they're chatty they admit apprehension for the job market. You have to remember these kids were heavily indocrintared and if in uni even more so. So surveys are performative rather than informative. Reliability comes from doing a lot of surveys and validity is as good or as bad as the survey design (mostly bad). Sociologists also tend to forget people lie. A lot.

FWIW I was hard left until about age 23. Tars noted above that the numbers will likely change as this cohort ages. I agree.

Regarding merit: one of the lines of indoctrination is that employers hire white males out of preference and not merit. Yes they are attacking white men as lazy and defensive. See the website Ask a Manager for in-real-time cucked conversation in the comments. They literally think that hiring for diversity is hiring for merit. "Well, now that we're starting to hire the best people for the job" is a common refrain on that site. So they have to rank diversity higher than merit because for them merit is a subset of diversity.

The first time I asked my sales manager at another job about diversity in the company he indicated that diversity referred only to business lines and product categories. Boy, was I relieved. All meat and no gristle.

There will always be a hard line between HR and marketing on the one hand and sales managers and outside sales reps on the other. Just another reason to squeeze and push out HR function in your organization. They believe diversity is merit and can't sell so they hire losers if given the power. Marketing is quite similar. They're the public face of HR.

Blogger Pope Cleophus I April 17, 2019 2:24 PM  

Ignorance Is Strength

War Is Peace
Freedom Is Slavery

Blogger Roman Daoist April 17, 2019 2:26 PM  

The progressives refer to equality as if it were true. Turn it around and refer to it as the Theory of Equality and lets calmly ask to see proof.

eg:
"I'm not asserting that different races perform differently. It is you that is asserting that they perform the same. Do you have evidence to support this claim? (And isn't 'race' a myth?) If you fail to do so then equal representation can not and should not be implemented by sensible people."

Blogger will April 17, 2019 2:31 PM  

I take it this isn't just a joke. i mean Zogby?! Lol.

Blogger Roman Daoist April 17, 2019 2:39 PM  

Forgot to mention that I was inspired by articles informing us of the "merit trap" and "merit myth". (Search for these if you're in too good of a mood and want to be brought down a bit.)

Blogger James Dixon April 17, 2019 2:39 PM  

> Performance metrics are perfect for getting employees to take shortcuts and fugde numbers to look better than they are.

Yep. I've worked the help desk before. Employers are big on the number of tickets closed and the time spent on each ticket as performance metrics. So guess what happens if you have a hard problem that might take hours to resolve? The rational tech considering his evaluation hangs up. :(

There ate two important points here: a) You get more of what you pay for, and b) customer service is very hard to measure accurately. Note to the beancounters: No, six sigma doesn't help in that regard.

Blogger LP916 April 17, 2019 2:42 PM  

48 Our precious delicate natural law was marred, spat upon and broken, those wicked pricked boomers., ho, ho heave ho, western civ gotta go, Great, the POTUS can send it to you, enjoy your enrichment doom fashionable style with such colorful diversity! Even Cher shall approve! She'll love it! Every true stifle will want such beauties to each and every sanctuary city.

Blogger Stilicho April 17, 2019 2:44 PM  

Let them eat diversity

Blogger Matamoros April 17, 2019 2:44 PM  

Off topic: It appears that the traitors are planning to rebuild a multicultural Notre Dame.

Ann Barnhardt:
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2019/04/16/notre-dame-will-be-repaired-at-taxpayer-expense-but-as-a-shared-cultural-space-and-that-is-how-it-will-become-a-mosque/

Here is Heartiste:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2019/04/16/macron-the-quisling/

Blogger VFM #7634 April 17, 2019 2:45 PM  

Ruddy hell. Looks like shitlibbery still hasn't peaked. And unfortunately, it may not until civilization collapses. /facepalm

Blogger The Contrarian April 17, 2019 2:56 PM  

Follow up question: "How do you reconcile the NFL and NBA? Those are workspaces as well"

Blogger Avalanche April 17, 2019 3:07 PM  

@67 "Off topic: It appears that the traitors are planning to rebuild a multicultural Notre Dame."


On the other hand, did you expect better with High-Fellatin' Frannie in the wheelhouse?

Blogger Max Boivin April 17, 2019 3:13 PM  

If you have two chooses between two candidates who have similar qualification, you should chose the men over the women and the white over the black, if you can get away with it. It will make things much simpler in the workplace.

Blogger LP916 April 17, 2019 3:13 PM  

54 The kids have no idea the wealth of knowledge gen x along with boomers to retain running water, commodes and trash taken out requires western civ., to do such. I pray genx and boomers seeks to help the younger kids just trying to get by and not be ripped off.

OT: Thank you Vox for mentioning how stressful life can be living in America - it is immense stress in Appalachia. I think it was mentioned over 9 days back in listens. Tis true stressful here. But let us all be of great cheer, ITS EASTER! Evil is a loser!

Blogger David Ray Milton April 17, 2019 3:18 PM  

Correct. Nothing destroys illusions quite so quickly as the responsibility to lead a team that must perform.

Blogger GreenAcres10996 April 17, 2019 3:22 PM  

I, too, thought Gen Z was to be our salvation. As someone else commented, it's a poll so your mileage may vary. Then again, would not surprise me too much if the poll results were near the truth, as the effectiveness and pervasiveness of the propaganda taught and distributed among the various channels is very evident.

What baffles me is that why is it only roughly half? Could it be that because we don't have a secret police enforcing compliance the relative low number exists, considering the fact the amount of effort and money the main street media, schools, universities, etc., spend on this spreading their "message". In the old Soviet Union, Nazi Germany and current day China, compliance with everyday people was and is way higher.....and I am willing to bet they did not spend so much money or effort.

Makes me think the poll could be one of the varied real reasons for the Muller investigation & reports. Not so much as to snuff out any real wrong doing, just to let everyone know the modern FBI really is a secret police organization working on behalf of the globalist and cultural Marxists ("I'm with Her"), not the people of the United States. Sort of a warning shot - get with the program or else the beatings will increase daily until morale improves. They want our submission.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len April 17, 2019 3:49 PM  

The problem with every poll that professes to definitively quantify what "Americans think about X": "the poll of 2,002 Americans". That's 0.000006067 of the country's population. Are we really to believe this is a representative sample? It's hardly enough to accurately reflect the views of a mid-sized town.

@58 - That's been part of the AC credits since the start, the querulous Quebecois' desperate attempt to preempt the snippy SJWs and murderous Muzzies upset about the way brown people were represented in the game.

Blogger James Dixon April 17, 2019 3:53 PM  

> What baffles me is that why is it only roughly half?

What percentage of Gen Z is white?

Blogger Matt April 17, 2019 4:03 PM  

Theyve never been in a workplace. How would they know what makes a good one?

Blogger weka April 17, 2019 4:05 PM  

Truat polls with a wide sampling frame and high response rates. The reliable ones are xalled censuses

Blogger Terrekain April 17, 2019 4:09 PM  

This is simply the "logical" outcome of the peer-pressure running straight into the wall of observable facts, especially based on race.

The truth is that most young Americans can see the differences of race in merit. Yet they're not allowed to act on it, and the cognitive dissonance is truly damaging to the psyche - we've all been through it, I'm sure.

But the bright side is that (A) I seriously doubt5 that poll is "accurate" (aka as 'leftist research fraud') and (B) Most real responders - if any - probably lied to maintain their social status.

The only thing that will happen is that the self-discovery process is likely to be pushed back and forth depending on the amount of gas-lighting there is and the concentration of this pernicious culture. But nobody can be lied to and believe this crap all of the time.

By the time they get married and start having kids and pay taxes, they're smart enough to know it's all a scam and vote in our direction....we can easily push forward this maturation by refusing government subsidized college tuition (otherwise called "extended adolescence"), and decreasing welfare (at least stop its increase and let the inflation chip away at it).

Blogger Iron Spartan April 17, 2019 4:28 PM  

polls are published to create a desired outcome.

If you count not-Americans, I believe it. if you count only Americans, I don't

Blogger Johnny April 17, 2019 4:39 PM  

Well, maybe Islam is the answer. It is brutish enough that all this niceness stuff won't matter even if it survives. And it empowers men like crazy, yet there is so far no general feminine movement against it. Is it the burden of men to defend female empowerment even if most women aren't all that interested?

Blogger Ingemar April 17, 2019 4:42 PM  

Virtue Signal Inc. is basically a codified version of Mafia-backed union labor.

Blogger Tars Tarkas April 17, 2019 4:45 PM  

Matamoros wrote:Off topic: It appears that the traitors are planning to rebuild a multicultural Notre Dame.

Ann Barnhardt:

https://www.barnhardt.biz/2019/04/16/notre-dame-will-be-repaired-at-taxpayer-expense-but-as-a-shared-cultural-space-and-that-is-how-it-will-become-a-mosque/

Here is Heartiste:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2019/04/16/macron-the-quisling/


I knew it. I posted about it the other day when it happened. Some kind of multi-faith thing which eventually makes it a mosque. This is enraging.

The only good thing is that they will never inherit Europe. They will inherit a cold middle east. It will be just as ugly and just as dysfunctional and poor. Just as African Americans did not inherit Detroit. Yes, they have the physical space, but it is merely a cold African city.

What is so hard to understand is that this stuff is just so obvious. Like can they really believe their own bullshit?

Blogger yellowleaf April 17, 2019 4:57 PM  

Mass Immigration Is A Weapon In The White-On-White Amerikan Civil War

Blogger Longtime Lurker April 17, 2019 5:07 PM  

Gen Z expressed the greatest uncertainty - 34 percent unsure - whether merit or diversity should be emphasized in hiring decisions. (Millennials came in a distant second at 18 percent.)

Gen Z, most likely most of the white portion of it, clearly does have doubts about diversity.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 17, 2019 5:22 PM  

What percentage of Gen Z is white?

@76 James Dixon
Barely over 50%. The Millennials are the children of the Boomers for the most part, and Gen Z the children of Gen X. So logically, Gen Z's whites will be considerably less numerous than among Millennials.

Blogger HMS Defiant April 17, 2019 6:10 PM  

I'm just a little curious. Is it a nationwide trend now that black high school students have decided to walk down the middle of the roads leading away from high school even though both sides of the street have perfectly good sidewalks or is this kind of stupid just limited to Ohio?

Blogger OneWingedShark April 17, 2019 6:25 PM  

The Cooler wrote:fair representation of race, ethnicity and religion

Fair... as in: Marked by impartiality and honesty; free from self-interest, prejudice, or favoritism? As in, consonant with... merit?

Lord Almighty, save us from the vacuous bafflegarble of the word wizards.

This is why I prefer to use Just/Unjust vs. Fair/Unfair.

Pyrex wrote:Non-progressive millenial here. While the progressive push for fair representation at cost of merit is nonsensical to me, I also pause at the phrase "merit and competition supersede all". Mainly because I have yet to work for any employer who's metrics of merit were remotely close to capturing the skills and talents of my most highly skilled, highest-value-adding peers.
The other thing that impedes understanding is "merit" in relation to "competition" — a lot of us see the supersedes all associating more heavily with 'competition' — while 'competition' isn't an evil thing in our peer's mindsets, the competition supersedes all-mindset is perfectly encapsulated by the Boomer's saying: He who dies with the most toys, wins. (Obviously false.)

Watchu talkin bout Willis wrote:Generations of indoctrination under the guise of "public education." Thanks, John Dewey.
This too.

Meanoldbasterd wrote:A capable saboteur is worse than an incompetent loyalist.
This is why I hate the Republican party. — If they were merely incompetent then we, the base, would sometimes have political wins… instead we get stabbed in the back and told its acupuncture.

Blogger Johnny April 17, 2019 6:26 PM  

>>The problem with every poll that professes to definitively quantify what "Americans think about X": "the poll of 2,002 Americans". That's 0.000006067 of the country's population.

It is the size of the sample, not the size of the population, that counts. 2K is bigger then necessary. The real issue is if it is a random distribution. With people that is routinely difficult to get. Here's betting that if it was for sure a random distribution, 200 would be better than a suspect 2K.

In practice a lot of polls are garbage. Often deliberately slanted or a non random sample of the population.

Blogger Hammerli 280 April 17, 2019 6:29 PM  

Pursue excellence. When everybody else is virtue-signalling, you win on quality. This goes triple if you are in a field where your work is safety-critical.

Blogger Azimus April 17, 2019 6:44 PM  

4. C April 17, 2019 11:25 AM
I wonder. So, they ...fear reprisal for selecting otherwise in that poll. Is a poll whose results are informed by fear rather than objective consideration accurate and useful?


That is considerably worse, if they've been frightened into supporting something they know is a lie.

Blogger Primus Pilus April 17, 2019 6:54 PM  

PolitiCrump wrote:"But I thought Gen Z was the most conservative generation since the Silent generation"

Lol as if. I don't know who came up with this theory but all I know for sure is that Gen Z is the most diverse and least white generation in American history


1) Conservative is not a synonym for right-wing
2) Gen Z, the white portion, is currently, by far, the most right-wing generation of Americans. Problem is, 50% of the generation is non-white non-Americans, and you can hardly expect them to fight for whites over their own tribes.

When you compare like to like, whites to whites, Boomers are by far the most left-wing generation of Americans. They're 90+% white, compared to 50% white Gen Z, and still 42% of Boomers agreed with diversity over merit, actively cheering the dispossession of their own children and grandchildren.

Blogger Azimus April 17, 2019 7:08 PM  

20. Watchu talkin bout Willis April 17, 2019 11:57 AM
Generations of indoctrination under the guise of "public education." Thanks, John Dewey.


All John Dewey is, is a tail-wind for the progs. Its not John Dewey's fault your neighbor is a Never-Trumper. Its not John Dewey's fault that the Republicans, who were thrust into power by untold millions of hours of work and impassioned grass roots debate by decent God-fearing Americans, never did a damn thing to conserve anything, let alone turn back the red tide. It's not John Dewey's fault the vast majority of American's free time is spent A) watching TV, B) playing electronic games, or C) bleating on facebook (or VP, SDL please forgive me).

John Dewey does not excuse the agency of millions of cowards who choose to believe the sweet lie rather than the hard truth. I only say this, not because you truly lay all the blame at Dewey's feet, but just to say that he is only a tailwind for progs, and a headwind for us. You can walk forward against a headwind. You can even sail against the wind. And the cruise isn't over unless the boat sinks, and she hasn't sunk yet!

Blogger Dirk Manly April 17, 2019 7:36 PM  

@200

"Generations of indoctrination under the guise of "public education." Thanks, John Dewey."

Don't thank him.
Damn him -- as he deserves.

Blogger Robert Pinkerton April 17, 2019 7:43 PM  

Cyril Kornbluth predicted this with his The Marching Morons.

Blogger Sargent.matrim April 17, 2019 7:53 PM  

I dont want to drive over bridges, use elevators, or travel in planes built by diversity hires.

Blogger tublecane April 17, 2019 7:56 PM  

@94- Phooey on John Dewey.

http://www.improve-education.org/id42.html

Blogger anorganicbear April 17, 2019 7:58 PM  

Nepotism is our strength! Anyone who doesn't want more Smith representation is an anti-nepotist and should lose any ability to hold a job, a bank account, or post content to the Internet!

Blogger tublecane April 17, 2019 8:02 PM  

Mediocracy (rule of the mediocre) means culture simultaneously being dumbed down and made increasingly incomprehensible.

The merited are the ones with the requisite Diversity Pokemon Points, or the ones sufficiently conversant in nonsense. Unless it's that rare field with real, definable consequences.

Eventually it will all be like prison, where your skin is your gang. And "gonnegtions," as one vibrant put it in a famous novel.

Blogger James Dixon April 17, 2019 8:45 PM  

> Barely over 50%.

And the percentage given was roughly 50%. Amazing coincidence, isn't it?

> ...if they've been frightened into supporting something they know is a lie.

Giving an approved answer on a survey you expect to be leaked is not the same thing as supporting.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel April 17, 2019 9:17 PM  

Long before Dewey, there was Horace Mann.

Blogger Silent Draco April 17, 2019 9:22 PM  

Robert Pinkerton, "The Marching Morons" remains a favorite short story. We are perhaps two years from implementing this via an island launch site and a cruise ship company. Didn't want to acknowledge fiction getting real this fast.

Blogger Pioneer Spirit April 17, 2019 9:33 PM  

A lesson learned from when I was selling shoes as a youth decades ago. No matter how much you polished the man-handled shoe that was on display it never shined like the mate still stored in the box in the back room.
I learned to polish one up and polish one down until they matched, fooling the customer in the process.
No matter how much you polish up the third-world, it will never match the west. Therefore you must dumb down everyone else fooling people with the idea of equality.

Blogger Jack Amok April 17, 2019 10:14 PM  

Giving an approved answer on a survey you expect to be leaked is not the same thing as supporting.

The majority of Gen-Z spend their days incarcerated in institutions run by the lowest IQ college graduates in the country - many of them women - and generally none of the wardens, I mean Principals, are subject to any sort of intelligent oversight. In that environment, the kids learn what to tell the prison guards so they'll be left alone.

Plus, pretty much every organized activity they're allowed to participate in has forced diversity, including girls. So, they do the obvious thing, find whatever useful, non-critical roles they can for the boat anchors. Robotics competitions, the girls make excellent secretaries. They almost always have far better handwriting than the boys, so they're quite valuable putting together the Engineering Notebooks that make up a decent fraction of the score.

Blogger PG April 17, 2019 10:52 PM  

Perhaps a more interesting survey would have been to ask:
How likely would you be, on a scale of one to five, to fight to the death for your position on that?

1. You're already dead, 5. I'm crying right now at the thought of even scratching my silver sequined cell.

Blogger Uncephalized April 17, 2019 11:39 PM  

@Meanoldbasterd loyalty is part of the calculation of merit.

Blogger pyrrhus April 18, 2019 1:05 AM  

Or maybe just doomed by this...https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/04/stunning-67-of-republican-voters-think-arrival-of-massive-numbers-o-immigrants-and-refugees-is-harmful-only-16-of-gop-leaders-agree/

Blogger Discard what is usless April 18, 2019 3:22 AM  

For those with little experience with Mills and Gen Z...Mills believe this because of drugs, stupid, and brainwashing. Z says this because of spite and retribution. Divide is palpable. You may want to consider the irony of Z agreement here.

-X Father of 4 Gen z, Married to a Mills.

Blogger Alphaeus April 18, 2019 10:30 AM  

"Millennials and Generation Z believe representation of all races and religions in the workplace is more important than hiring based on merit, according to a new survey."

But, I thought Boomers were the worst most stupidests scumbags in the history of the human race?

Well, yes, we were, until the subsequent generations came along.

The truth is that every generation is the result of the mindset of the previous generation, which is what explains our inexorable down hill slide.

Blogger John Rockwell April 18, 2019 11:43 AM  

''This, however, is a trend that you need not accept. Pursue excellence even as you embrace your identity.''

Excellence is inherently elitist and exclusive.

And conducive to group identity.

Compared to being rewarded for simply existing which is what diversity is about.

How many people can be excellent save for a select few?

Blogger liberranter April 18, 2019 12:18 PM  

Apparently stupidity is quickly becoming our "strength".

If it were an exportable commodity, we not only could pay off the entire national debt in very short order, but it would make us the most obscenely wealthy nation humanity has ever known.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 18, 2019 5:04 PM  

liberranter wrote:If it were an exportable commodity, we not only could pay off the entire national debt in very short order, but it would make us the most obscenely wealthy nation humanity has ever known.

If stupidity were valuable, Africa would be so obscenely wealthy that they wouldn't even need their vibranium.


Maybe vibranium is crystallized stupidity? Think how much dumber the Africans would be if all that Wakandan vibranium went back into solution!

Blogger eclecticme April 18, 2019 10:50 PM  

The real question should be this:
Will you buy your next smart phone based on performance and price or on whether the employees where diverse?

Blogger Steve Canyon April 19, 2019 9:27 PM  

Boeing has a different diversity program. They offshore a lot of the components on their jets. Wouldn't surprise me if the MCAS code was written in Mumbai

Blogger Steve Canyon April 20, 2019 2:55 PM  

Finally. Something a boomer can do that's useful.

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