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Thursday, April 25, 2019

Fight the real battle, Marvel

Despite its best efforts to anticipate the SJW Narrative, Marvel's Endgame falls well short of the expectations of the SJW thought police:
The Marvel blockbuster is predicted to surpass its predecessor, Avengers: Infinity War, by £200million, which would crown the new superhero film the largest debut in the history of cinema - and possibly the first film to break one billion dollars in less than a week.

Endgame's roster includes at least 30 superheroes, but it seems the real battle is more one between the sexes than against gauntlet-wielding super villains - as major male characters enjoy a combined 381 minutes of screen-time, compared to only 116 for their female counterparts.

Chris Evans' Captain America enjoys one hour and six minutes of screen time - the most of any of the film's stars - followed by Robert Downey Jnr’s Iron Man with one hour and two minutes, and Chris Hemsworth’s Thor with 45 minutes.

British actress Karen Gillan, known for playing Amy Pond in Doctor Who, has the most screen time of all the female stars, and the fourth most of all, appearing for 41 minutes as the cyborg Nebula, but the franchise's latest star Captain Marvel, played by Brie Larson, appears for only 15 minutes, despite her recent blockbuster.
I am shocked, appalled, and offended. I expect, and sincerely hope, that Marvel addresses this terrible sexual screen time imbalance in all its future movies. Do they not know it is 2019 and not 1950? Do better, Marvel. Do better!

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Blogger Desdichado April 25, 2019 10:02 AM  

On the flip side, that is a good sign when it comes to Endgame's actual entertainment value.

Blogger #7139 April 25, 2019 10:09 AM  

I am also shocked, appalled and offended. I hope the 1st Alt Hero movie can do better than this.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 25, 2019 10:11 AM  

but the franchise's latest star Captain Marvel, played by Brie Larson, appears for only 15 minutes, despite her recent blockbuster.

HA!!

Okay, maybe she ends up being the Deus Ex Machina of the movie, but I really hope not.

Blogger szook April 25, 2019 10:24 AM  

The bow tie....she's a spinning and spinning....

Blogger widlast washere April 25, 2019 10:26 AM  

It would seem that someone at Marvel has seen the error of their ways and actually wants to produce a watchable film that makes craploads of money. We'll see if this change of heart lasts.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 25, 2019 10:33 AM  

Isn't Captain America the leader of the Avengers? That couldn't have anything to do with it.

Blogger A bit of truth April 25, 2019 10:36 AM  

@6 Yeah I thought Captain America and Iron Man were the leaders. OMG! Male leaders!

Blogger InformationMerchant April 25, 2019 10:46 AM  

Spoiler free:

Don't worry, you get your wish. The original Avengers all had their contracts up, so they are to be replaced with diversity.

They couldn't keep feminism out of this movie. The male to female ratio sounds better than it is. Despite it being focused on the original avengers squad, they somehow managed to find that much screen time for women even though Black Widow and Nebula are the only women that are part of the main team at the start of the movie. This is compared to Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Rhodey, Ant Man, Hawkeye and Rocket, with Thanos being the only one on the opposite side still standing.

9 men, 2 women.

Blogger Stilicho April 25, 2019 10:59 AM  

Marvel needs a bigger shovel. Give them one. Or several.

Blogger Ransom Smith April 25, 2019 11:00 AM  

The rumor mill was that they did reshoots and mitigated Captain Marvel's screen time.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 25, 2019 11:02 AM  

British actress Karen Gillan, known for playing Amy Pond in Doctor Who...

You will note she is British actress, not Scottish actress.

Blogger matveidaniilovich April 25, 2019 11:15 AM  

Marvel films are so bland. Shazam (the actual Captain Marvel) blows everything they offer out of the water. Arkhaven Films will curb stomp their corpse.

Blogger electricsheeple April 25, 2019 11:18 AM  

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Blogger Nate April 25, 2019 11:25 AM  

brie is only on screen for 15 minutes? makes me think the rumors about reshooting without her are more accurate than we assumed.

Blogger Nate73 April 25, 2019 11:25 AM  

I've wanted to watch Dr. Who in the past but I saw a clip of his female companion nagging and whining a bit and the whole thing gave me a gamma vibe to it. Has anybody else seen a recent Dr. Who?

Blogger Robin April 25, 2019 11:39 AM  

I remember Jeremy Clarkson pointing this out on Top Gear. Anyone successful is dubbed British, anyone unsuccessful remains Scottish, Welsh, etc.

Blogger InformationMerchant April 25, 2019 11:39 AM  

Massive Spoilers to follow:

A lot of Marvel fans didn't love this one. I thought it'd be the last massively popular Marvel movie but the SJWs couldn't let this one go without messing with it. Looking at polls, people still liked it, but there are things that bother hardcore SJW Marvel fans and there are going to be things that bother non SJWs.

If you watch the interview where Chris Hemsworth and Brie Larson clash, that basically sets you up for this movie. Thor gets destroyed by the SJWs. He is made a joke and his ending is awful. Captain Marvel is makes every moment she's on screen terrible. She's insufferable and keeps her Captain Marvel godmode. The moment when marvel surrounds her with a bunch of women to have a feminism moment is one of the least annoying moments of her being on screen, she jars you out of the film.

Captain America's ending is bad. Some people are split on this because he has been pining after a woman that agreed to go on a date with him but didn't actually get around to it for years. She moved on, had a family, had one season of her own tv series, etc. The majority of Marvel fans didn't like this though.

Iron Man's ending is the best of the big 3, but many people weren't crazy about it either. It would've been better to switch his and Captain America's endings. At least Iron Man is the one of the big 3 that doesn't just abandon everyone on a whim.

Hulk is weird. Doesn't fight at all. There is no smashing, which is a point taken from a review I read: https://imgur.com/XYwtlkF From a guy that was the happiest he'd been in 10 years, read the review. That guy has to be a superfan, he's not going to like future Marvel movies.


There's a breakdown of the movie almost scene by scene here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/bgfu90/endgame_leak/


So fat Thor has left Asgard to a black female, Captain America has given his shield to black man, the two people with Iron Man suits are a black man and white woman.

Hulk is done without passing anything on. Hawkeye is back to retirement. Black Widow is dead.

That's the original Avengers lineup. 5 white guys down, 1 white woman down. Black and/or female replacements for everyone that has left any sort of replacement.

That's why this "female vs male screen time" thing is massively underselling the cancer. This movie is basically a compilation episode of flashbacks to previous Marvel movies. TV shows used to do these often, they'd have 5 minutes of new content that just reran old scenes from previous episodes. The movie is better than that, but they couldn't have given women more screen time unless they gave Captain Marvel more screen time and they couldn't do that because she never does anything wrong, loses any fight or runs into any problems.

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Blogger SemiSpook37 April 25, 2019 11:42 AM  

Markus and McFeely (the screenwriters for the entire Cap trilogy, Infinity War, and Endgame) have the best track record of the MCU writers. I haven't really seen any SJW crap coming from them from any of the films. It also helps that Joe and Anthony Russo (directors of Winter Soldier, Civil War, and the last two Avengers films) have been pretty good about keeping the stories together and not injecting any SJW crap, either.

Feige might be starting to toe the company line on the SJW garbage, but after the backlash on Captain Marvel, I've seen he's been relatively quiet in this press tour.

Case in point: the Russos have given quite a few Community cameos in these films. NONE of them have involved Chevy Chase. This is not a coincidence.

Blogger Dangeresque April 25, 2019 11:45 AM  

From measuring skirts to measuring screen time. The Victorian era never ended, it just took a nap.

Blogger peacefulposter April 25, 2019 11:55 AM  

Brie's 15 minutes are up.

Blogger TheMaleRei April 25, 2019 11:57 AM  

@14

I wasn't sure if those rumors were just wishful thinking, but at only 15 minutes, I think I might be able to live with that. But hearing the autistic shrieking of SJW's on there not being enough Brie Larson in the film, that might make it worth it - provided she's not a "press X to win" trope.

But here's hoping that the MCU crashes and burns after Endgame, I can't wait for FemThor, Iron Woman, She Hulk, America Chavez, and more to femsplain and retcon everything - since the head of the MCU said there's going to be a lot more stories set in the past...

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 25, 2019 11:58 AM  

Nate wrote:brie is only on screen for 15 minutes? makes me think the rumors about reshooting without her are more accurate than we assumed.



Brie Larson is the new future Katherine Heigl.

A woman who is simply too unpleasant in real life for the vanity press to successfully hide it for long.

They'll give her a pass for a little bit but they are going to shred her eventually.

Blogger WillBest April 25, 2019 12:04 PM  

brie is only on screen for 15 minutes? makes me think the rumors about reshooting without her are more accurate than we assumed.

This movie was always going to be the last hurrah of the original cast, which is why the original avengers all unprobablistically survived the dusting.


Captain Marvel grossed over 400 million domestic and will likely finish at #5 on the Marvel comic book movie all time list in domestic gross.

It is over a billion worldwide including over 150 million in the all important China market. The Chinese market that gave TFA $125 million and TLJ $42 million demonstrating a level of sophistication the Americans have yet to demonstrate.

Which indicates the character has positive fan support. If there was a reshoot it was likely minor without impacting her screen time all that much. Probably to tone down her deus ex factor since it really is the original casts last hurrah.

Blogger Damelon Brinn April 25, 2019 12:10 PM  

I just saw a 17-second clip that was posted for laughs. It features several different women in costume doing hero poses for the camera and then striding forward as the camera weaves through them so it looks like they just keep coming. I suppose that's a standard shot for these movies; but when you know they put that in there for the Grrl Power Moment and it's not going to satisfy the wolves, it's pretty funny.

We'll see if this change of heart lasts.

It's not a change of heart; Marvel simply didn't have many female superheroes. That's why they had to dig Captain Marvel out of obscurity to lead a film. A film that brought them all together was bound to have a lot of men on screen. They will fix that fast going forward, though.

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 25, 2019 12:18 PM  

I think the really interesting question is, 'did Disney paid Captain Marvel's boxoffice receipts?'

As Vox can attest, the music industry fiddles the charts all the time.

Certainly buying back your way to best seller status is nothing new in the publishing business.

But up until now the view in Hollywood has been, 'why throw good money after bad?'

I am still suspicious about the difference between Captain Marvel's tracking and the delivery at the boxoffice, on opening weekend. Combined with the reports fro BIC that there blocks of seats being bought and "no showed."

Sure the tracking can be wrong but in those cases there is usually a ground swell of support that the polling missed ala '300.' I wasn't getting that vibe from the fanbase at all for Captain Marvel. SJWs liked the idea but they usually make more noise than they deliver.

Now I can certainly understand why Disney did it going into Avengers Endgame. The moderate few million they had to through at Captain Marvel's receipts (assuming they did that of course) will be handsomely offset by the next movie.

In a way, Captain Marvel was just promoting Avengers Endgame. Keeping the fandom at fever pitch. So it makes sense in that regard.

The big question is, will they do it again for Star Wars IX?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 25, 2019 12:24 PM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:British actress Karen Gillan, known for playing Amy Pond in Doctor Who...

You will note she is British actress, not Scottish actress.

As James May pointed out, anything Scottish that's considered negative is called "Scottish". Anything Scottish considered positive is called "British".

Blogger Garuna April 25, 2019 12:27 PM  

I watched it. It's pretty good.

If you're interested in watching it too, I can confirm that the 3.74GB HDCAM copy on Piratebay is good. Decent video, clear audio. It's missing a couple of minutes at the 5 minute mark, but luckily that is just Captain Marvel's introduction.

If you want a summary of the film, here it is:

SPOILERS
>Avengers find Thanos to undo snap
>Thanos has already destroyed the stones to prevent this
>Thor beheads Thanos
>5 year timeskip
>Ant Man returns from quantum realm
>He finds the Avengers and tells them to use quantum realm time travel to retrieve stones from past movies and undo snap
>Avengers reunite and begin the "time heist"
>This adventure doubles as a "Best Of MCU" highlight reel and also allows some characters to get closure with dead loved ones
>Black Widow sacrifices herself so Hawkeye can get the soul stone
>2014 Thanos (first Guardians film) captures good 2023 Nebula and figures out what the Avengers are up to
>He sends evil 2014 Nebula to infiltrate the Avengers
>Thor retrieves his original hammer
>Avengers succeed in collecting the stones
>Iron Man builds iron gauntlet
>Hulk wears it and snaps all the dusted people back to life
>Evil 2014 Nebula is now in 2023
>She opens up a time portal to bring 2014 Thanos and his army to 2023 as well
>Newly revived Dr Strange teleports ALL the MCU heroes to the same place
>Epic battle
>Cap wields Thor's hammer and uses lightning to fight Thanos
>Iron Man puts on iron gauntlet, snaps, and dusts all the villains
>Iron Man dies, final words: "I am Iron Man"
>Funeral
>Thor abdicates the thrones
>Black valkyrie from Thor 3 becomes (YASSS) queen of the Asgardians
>Thor joins the Guardians
>Cap takes all the stones & Thor's hammer back to where they got them from
>He decides to stay in the 1940s and live happily ever after
>Old Man Cap in present day passes on his shield to Falcon (black Captain America confirmed)
>Final scene is Cap in the 1940s finally getting to dance with the girl from the first Captain America film


MISC

>Iron Man has a daughter during the timeskip, too bad she'll grow up without a father
>In 2023, Bruce Banner and the Hulk have fused into one, he is Professor Hulk now with the brains of Banner and the braun of Hulk
>2023 Thor is depressed, drunk and fat with a big beer gut, movie makes many jokes at his expense
>Captain Marvel has almost no screentime
>Movie is heavily focused on just the original six Avengers
>Iron Man & Captain America are clearly the two main characters
>Cap gets the most hero moments, with Iron Man obviously getting the hero sacrifice ending
>Thanos is not as interesting as the last film and doesn't get as much screentime
>A few scattered girl powah moments but not terrible
>Pepper puts on an Iron Woman suit in the final battle
>2014 Thanos gets dusted which should prevent him from making Infinity War happen
>2023 Nebula actually kills 2014 Nebula and just continues to live for some reason
>2014 Gamora is redeemed and is now in 2023 even though she's supposed to die in 2018
>I don't think the movie cares about any of these plotholes
>Movie is very funny
>Thor and Hulk are the funniest characters
>The first 2/3 is not as good as Infinity War
>Final 2/3 is also not as good as Infinity War but carries emotional weight due to Iron Man's death and Cap's old man retirement

Blogger Warunicorn April 25, 2019 12:31 PM  

Slightly OT: I love how the developers of Mortal Kombat 11 gave us the excuse of the women in that game going full burka with, "You wouldn't go into a fight without combat armor."

Yeah? What's the men's excuse since they're still shirtless in a lot of cases? It's bad enough Jax's ending is a BLM/SJW masturbatory fantasy where---get this---Jax ends slavery before it began and blacks rule the world. These people...they're f*cked up in so many ways.

Blogger Garuna April 25, 2019 12:31 PM  

Final 1/3*

Blogger Garuna April 25, 2019 12:37 PM  

Watch Owen's 147 IQ at work

You forgot to type the "lol". If you want Owen's dick so bad, you should just ask him for it. "Gamma" truly is just men behaving like women.

I believe in the moon landing and a spherical earth. I don't care about the flat earth theory so I didn't even bother to watch Owen's discussion with the flat earth guy. You should learn to do the same.

Blogger Lance E April 25, 2019 12:53 PM  

This review almost makes it sound worth watching. Almost. I'm still not going to give Disney any money by paying for the privilege.

Blogger Damelon Brinn April 25, 2019 1:02 PM  

Captain Marvel grossed over 400 million domestic [....] It is over a billion worldwide [....] indicates the character has positive fan support.

No, it indicates that a lot of people were invested in the franchise from watching 20 or so previous movies, and they knew this one would set up some things for the big finale which they were already making plans to see, so they needed to see it. Skipping it would have been like skipping the fourth book of a five-book series because you heard it was the weakest one. You plow through to get the whole story. Most of the people who saw it couldn't have told you a single thing about the character beforehand except that she is currently a she.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams April 25, 2019 1:14 PM  

Now that hot Black Widow is dead, get read for jiggly death-fat Black Widow!

She wheezes along and kills enemies by suffocating them in her fat rolls. Yet she is powerless against her implanted defibrillator and fat shaming. But don't worry, some hot white guy defends death-fat Black Widow against mean, mean words.

Blogger Rhys April 25, 2019 1:15 PM  

Hah! Didn't catch that! Good one.

Blogger Silent Draco April 25, 2019 1:21 PM  

Nate73, I avoided the Dr. Who reboots as much as possible. The original group from '60s - '80s had better writing and acting (first 7 Doctors). The companions were better complements. The stories were ludicrous, effects were awful, and it was socialist. However, it was good popcorn entertainment.

Blogger Rhys April 25, 2019 1:24 PM  

From the comments here, it seems that they're pulling their punches for this finale, to give reprieve...then they'll stick the knife in good and deep...

Blogger Rickaby007 April 25, 2019 1:30 PM  

I absolutely agree, Vox. After all, it is the current year. The fact that the entire cast aren't mixed race transexuals is beyond a travesty!

Blogger Desdichado April 25, 2019 1:49 PM  

Warunicorn wrote:Slightly OT: I love how the developers of Mortal Kombat 11 gave us the excuse of the women in that game going full burka with, "You wouldn't go into a fight without combat armor."
Sure, I would. I've never been in a fight with combat armor.

More to the point, many of my Celtic ancestors who actually fought professionally went into a fight wearing nothing at all but maybe some warpaint, and lime in their hair.

Blogger sammibandit April 25, 2019 2:03 PM  

Her Ellen interview with ScarJo was painful. ScarJo doesn't like doing press and is fairly private but she buckled down her feelings and played the part. She did all the heavy lifting for Larsen at Ellen. Larsen tried to run cover by saying that ScarJo was a working actress at a young age. Okay... Larsen is still boring to look at and listen to.

Blogger Amy April 25, 2019 2:10 PM  

Won’t see cap’n marvel. Will see Endgame when it’s free. I have liked the Avengers/Guardians films.

I’m not terribly sad to find that Stark dies, or that Cap gets his dance with his girl. That particular heartstring has been a pull all along. Thor ceding Asgard to the out of place never-would-be-in-sane-world-a-Valkyrie negress is an affront but what else could we expect given C.Y. I hear she gets down with cap marvel, maybe, in the future retconned MCU. Props, Dis.

Quill-Gamorra never did it for me. Obvious mixing is obvious, but I just don’t like Saldana as an actress, whether she’s black, brown, blue, or green. Everything about her acting seems forced or shoehorned.

Nebula has appeal, I liked her character and Gillan’s portrayal. Guardians 2 played with a little tension between her and Kraglin. Perhaps it will get some mileage in GotG3. She’s not wholly lost, I like a redemption arc.

But then, I wonder. Thanos did nothing wrong, except allowing his ‘snap’ to be random. The Avengers are far more calculated in their moral judgment as gods to snap those that oppose them out of existence. Modern enviro-ecowarriors might do the same. Thanos, at least, let it be up to chance. Targeted destruction of the opposition is, I don’t know if I know the proper term. But it might not be just, or righteous, or any of those things upon which SJWs are prided.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 25, 2019 2:20 PM  

Desdichado wrote:More to the point, many of my Celtic ancestors who actually fought professionally went into a fight wearing nothing at all but maybe some warpaint, and lime in their hair.
...and were slaughtered by the disciplined Roman centuries.

Blogger Brick Hardslab April 25, 2019 2:28 PM  

Blocks of 25 don't consistently get bought. More importantly, they don't consistently no show.

Blogger Desdichado April 25, 2019 2:33 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Desdichado wrote:More to the point, many of my Celtic ancestors who actually fought professionally went into a fight wearing nothing at all but maybe some warpaint, and lime in their hair.

...and were slaughtered by the disciplined Roman centuries.

Yeah, sure, but Mortal Kombat doesn't represent that kind of fighting, now, does it? It's the 1 x 1 kind of fighting that naked Celtic warriors excelled at—by the Romans' own admission.

Blogger Just a Quiet, Homeless Girl Living in a Fallen World April 25, 2019 2:49 PM  

Reading this just makes me glad it's all going to be over in 12 years.

Blogger Constantin April 25, 2019 2:57 PM  

If the spoilers laid out here about Endgame is true, then wow... that sounds like hot garbage. Will still see it once it's "free" to conclude this movie series, but damn.

Blogger Avalanche April 25, 2019 2:59 PM  

@9 "Marvel needs a bigger shovel. Give them one."

To whack them in the back of the heads with? What do they need shovels for?

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey April 25, 2019 3:00 PM  

We should hold them accountable to the syllable. Mere screen time is hardly enough. You can't just throw a pretty girl on-screen and use her like sex-object arm-candy! You've to give her heady, philosophical dialogue of real meaning, too!

Captain America: "Incoming! Hit the dirt!"
Black Widow: "Were it my cue to fight, I should have known it without a prompter!"

Iron Man: "Wow, these guys are dynamite!"
Black Widow: "Scare can I speak, my choler is so great. Oh! I could hew up rocks, and fight with flint!"

Blogger Solon April 25, 2019 3:13 PM  

You Celtic savages... /s

History tends to agree though, there is not much more terrifying than a bunch of screaming naked dudes running at you with swords to try and kill you. Worked for the Celts, worked for the Baresarks (berserkers), I've read that Spartans often fought without body armor (if you got through a phalanx, body armor wouldn't help as much at that point), and so on.

That said, give me combat armor any day of the week.

Blogger Avalanche April 25, 2019 3:15 PM  

@15 "I've wanted to watch Dr. Who in the past but I saw a clip of his female companion nagging and whining a bit and the whole thing gave me a gamma vibe to it. Has anybody else seen a recent Dr. Who?"

Of the "NuWho" -- as the restarted version has been dubbed -- The first season's Doctor, Chris Eccleston, is great. Really brings it back! The next, David Tennant is fantastic: I was a Tom-Baker-is-my-Doctor fan until Tennant; he blew Baker out of the running for me! Then Matt Smith: I didn't love him as much as Tennant - but he was AS good, and amazingly both young and old, as the Doctor. Peter Capaldi was very good, but not quite great at first -- but first, they show the military on Gallifrey as all negroes {gag}; then they got him a slavering-lesbian, snarky-negress companion and I dropped the show. THEN they announced the next Doctor would be a woman, and I finally cut the cable. BUt the frist three Doctors? WELL worth your time!

Blogger Solon April 25, 2019 3:16 PM  

You still think SJWs are "just" or "righteous" in any sense of those terms?

Boy, I've got a bridge to sell you. Bigger than the Golden Gate, and it runs right over my ocean front property in Arizona.

SJWs literally froth at the mouth at the fantasy of targeted destruction of their enemies.

Blogger Solon April 25, 2019 3:21 PM  

The episodes with David Tennant as The Doctor are all pretty good. He's funny, charming in a quacky sort of way. Does his own thing. Less Gamma and more Sigma.

The Doctor after him though has all the charm of a slug. And he likes bowties. I don't trust a man that fetishizes bowties.

The less said about the female Doctor, the better.

Blogger Careless Whisper April 25, 2019 3:30 PM  

The WCB video also pointed out that American Eagle Outfitters were giving out free Captain Marvel tickets to everyone who purchased a certain dollar amount. Those tickets would naturally have to be reserved in advance. There's your mysterious 25 seats post theater right there.

Blogger Matt April 25, 2019 3:37 PM  

She is and she isnt. Really they just shoved her in.

Blogger BassmanCO April 25, 2019 3:59 PM  

Careless Whisper wrote:The WCB video also pointed out that American Eagle Outfitters were giving out free Captain Marvel tickets to everyone who purchased a certain dollar amount. Those tickets would naturally have to be reserved in advance. There's your mysterious 25 seats post theater right there.

Yeah, I'm going to call bullshit. Those 25 seats were scheduled for 25 purchases daily from AEO? That seems reasonable to you?

Blogger Don't Call Me Len April 25, 2019 4:12 PM  

Dr. Who has always been "a few good ideas executed half-arsedly", but that was part of the fun. I stopped watching 'NuWho" with Matt Smith, too, but because of his schtick of talkingreallyfastallthetimeabouteverything. Any interest in trying again was banjaxed with Dottoressa Who.


use quantum realm time travel to retrieve stones from past movies

So this multi-billion dollar franchise has resorted to doing a clip show?

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 25, 2019 4:34 PM  

WillBest wrote:Captain Marvel grossed over 400 million domestic and will likely finish at #5 on the Marvel comic book movie all time list in domestic gross.

It is over a billion worldwide including over 150 million in the all important China market. The Chinese market that gave TFA $125 million and TLJ $42 million demonstrating a level of sophistication the Americans have yet to demonstrate.

Which indicates the character has positive fan support. If there was a reshoot it was likely minor without impacting her screen time all that much. Probably to tone down her deus ex factor since it really is the original casts last hurrah.


Yeah, don't trust the box office numbers. A number of theaters reported empty theaters despite full ticket sales.

Blogger Hammerli 280 April 25, 2019 4:49 PM  

"I am shocked, appalled, and offended. I expect, and sincerely hope, that Marvel addresses this terrible sexual screen time imbalance in all its future movies. Do they not know it is 2019 and not 1950? Do better, Marvel. Do better!"

OK, Vox. What's the first Arkhaven Films release, and when does it come out?

Blogger Lovekraft April 25, 2019 5:39 PM  

re Doctor Who, can I get some recommended seasons, episodes, arcs? I will give the show a try.

Nebula plays a major role in the ending to the IG comic mini-series. The comic also introduced Warlock as the steward of the stones, with Drax, Gamora etc as teammates (Warlock and the Infinity Watch).

Reductio ad absurdum means political messages are being reduced to simple inanities. Slavery? Automatic go-to: whites, and maybe the Spanish. Gay discrimination? Again, whites, usually men.

I could go on, but the story structures have to follow this tight script, but here's where I heard they may have pushed the window to the right:

I heard in Captain Marvel that they made the Skrulls more peaceful, just refugees trying to escape Kree oppression. Is this true? Did Disney alter a substantial portrayal of a villainous race to conform to mass immigration messaging?

Blogger Doug Cranmer April 25, 2019 5:41 PM  

Haven't seen this mentioned before ...

"SPOILER ALERT: 'Avengers: Endgame' makes history with first openly gay Marvel character.
Avengers: Endgame co-director Joe Russo has made history in the new blockbuster by becoming the first openly gay character in a Marvel movie.

The gay moviemaker and actor’s uncredited “average guy” role appears at the beginning of the film among those offering support and help to people coping with the loss of loved ones killed off at the end of the last Avengers film, Infinity War.

He insisted on making his character homosexual so he could make history and offer an inclusive moment for LGBTQ fans of the Marvel franchise."

There's more.

https://torontosun.com/entertainment/movies/spoiler-alert-avengers-endgame-makes-history-with-first-openly-gay-marvel-character/

Blogger Amy April 25, 2019 5:42 PM  

@Solon, you’re retarded, when it comes to the obvious.

I’m so sorry.

Blogger tublecane April 25, 2019 5:42 PM  

All this time-counting to sound objective is nonsense. Look, we know this movie will lean heavily on the male characters because the female characters suck and no one cares about them. It wouldn't matter if Scarlett Johansson was on screen for the entire runtime; she'd still be a minor character.

On the flippity-flop, Beatrice Straight was only in the movie Network for like two scenes and she won an Oscar. Ditto Judy Dench, who appeared in Shakespeare in Love for fewer than ten minutes. So what is screentime, I ask you?

Blogger Cogniblog April 25, 2019 5:42 PM  

Doctor Who is my favorite science fiction show. They correctly realized that the Nazis were a separate personality type (portrayed as the Daleks) from normal people several decades before Bob Altemeyer did.

Blogger tublecane April 25, 2019 5:49 PM  

@23- Except Heigl was beautiful at one point. Larson never.

Blogger tublecane April 25, 2019 5:57 PM  

@40- Larson was acting on network television at age 9. Was that not young enough?

Blogger SonofLonginus April 25, 2019 5:58 PM  

Matt Smith, bowtie guy, had his massive issues, but his era was still blew Peter Capaldi’s time out of the damn water. I couldn’t even get through the first season of his garbage.

I have staunchly refused to watch Doctor Literally Who. I’ve been told I ain’t missed much.

Blogger Noah B. April 25, 2019 6:04 PM  

Disney's market cap has increased by $75 billion, or almost 45%, just since mid-March, which roughly coincides with the release of Captain Marvel and the ramped up hype about the new Avengers movie. Hypothetically if Disney were to buy $1 billion worth of movie tickets during premiere week they would get back 90 cents on the dollar from the movie theaters. I wouldn't be surprised to eventually see this clever promotional strategy disclosed in Disney's Edgar filings.

Blogger Chris Lopes April 25, 2019 6:22 PM  

"To whack them in the back of the heads with? What do they need shovels for?"

To keep digging.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd April 25, 2019 6:26 PM  

Can attest to Chris Eccleston and David Tennant... Not Smith or Capaldi

Blogger Brick Hardslab April 25, 2019 6:32 PM  

Which naturally none were used. The entire block of seats were empty. Good try, do you search for blogs to cover for Disney or marvel?

Blogger MichaelJMaier April 25, 2019 7:10 PM  

The film is three hours and feels like half that. Well-executed... except for the PC AXE TO THE FACE that they insert where only the dimmest of bulbs will be able to endure without groaning out loud. Thankfully, it's only one minute of those 180.

Blogger Sargent.matrim April 25, 2019 7:29 PM  

There was a lot of nods to the progressive agenda in the movie. Yhe next phase of marvel is going to be a nightmare of social justice pandering.

Blogger Sargent.matrim April 25, 2019 7:39 PM  

Their use of Captain Marvel was done right. She was used sparingly. I couldn't imagine a whole movie with that character being worth watching.

Blogger Hammerli 280 April 25, 2019 8:15 PM  

BTW, Vox, I apologize if #58 sounds like a challenge. It's not. I figure that the way things are going, there is a gap in the market. Which I suspect you're moving to exploit.

CGI is dropping in price, and the original Star Trek series proved that good plot and solid characters trump flashy effects. And there's no shortage of plot material out there.

Blogger chronoblip April 25, 2019 9:19 PM  

Garuna wrote:
>Iron Man has a daughter during the timeskip, too bad she'll grow up without a father


Hollywood fathers can die in a heroic sacrifice or live long enough to become the villain in a no-fault divorce proceeding.

And some folks still wonder why men are so demoralized when it comes to the duty and honor of fatherhood.

Blogger Garuna April 25, 2019 9:53 PM  

Been watching these films since junior high. Got a sense of closure with this film. Don't feel the need to watch the next film. It's not even an anti-SJW thing. It just feels complete and the new stuff doesn't interest me. A lot of people share the same sentiment, even people who haven't even seen the film yet. They see this as the last one.

I wonder if Disney will regret giving this film such a feel of finality.

Blogger ReluctantMessiah April 25, 2019 10:43 PM  

@28

Brown Norse Queen? Black Captain America? STEM Iron Girl?

Ding ding ding. Marvel did it! Diversity Avengers are a go!

The cash cows they rode on are all gone. Now comes the plunge.

Enter... ARKHAVEN COMICS

Blogger Sargent.matrim April 26, 2019 1:36 AM  

I kind of feel the same way. This was a good ending to a good franchise. Dont see the need to watch any more of the movies.

Blogger John Rockwell April 26, 2019 2:07 AM  

Da Stronk Wahmen must prevail and subdue the white male under her feet.

Blogger wreckage April 26, 2019 2:38 AM  

I'd just point out that Heigl has the advantage of being pretty, peaking at blisteringly hot; whereas Larsen is pretty unremarkable for the big screen. She will probably age well though.

Blogger ZhukovG April 26, 2019 4:58 AM  

From the comments it sounds like the message of the movie is:

'White people; resistance is futile. Surrender quietly to POC and we might let you die out with some dignity.'

So, no. I don't think I will be watching this trash at any price.

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Caesar Trump!

Blogger Troushers April 26, 2019 6:48 AM  

I have a solution Marvel may wish to consider. After the end credits, and the end teaser scene, they can just show the female members of the cast sitting on a Sofa Of Representative Screen Time and staring at nothing for a further hour.

It may slightly complicate the timing of screenings at smaller multiplexes, but who doesn't want to watch an hour of Brie Larson, feminist superhero, sighing heavily, looking bored, and scratching at her fungal infected toenails for a whole further hour?

Blogger Skyler the Weird April 26, 2019 6:55 AM  

Next: Guardians of the Galaxies Pedos

Blogger Matt April 26, 2019 7:58 AM  

Since I've been watching these movies for about 10 years now I think this will be the final one I watch.

I'm guessing it will be a passing of the torch from the regular heroes to the "woke" SJW, feminist or minority characters.

It's a microcosm for what they did with the comics compressed into a shorter time period. Start out with characters that people love and get people invested and then slowly push leftist garbage into it.

I'm predicting the next 10 years of these movies will stagnate and start a decline, this will probably be its peak.

But like Vox has said, Disney really isn't in the business of making money anymore.

Blogger Fun guy April 26, 2019 11:06 AM  

FYI there is no post credit scene.
Stayed through tbe entire credits - nothing.
Almost like they are acknowledging that they have nothing else you will be interested in after this film.

Blogger OneWingedShark April 26, 2019 1:01 PM  

Noah B. wrote:Disney's market cap has increased by $75 billion, or almost 45%, just since mid-March, which roughly coincides with the release of Captain Marvel and the ramped up hype about the new Avengers movie. Hypothetically if Disney were to buy $1 billion worth of movie tickets during premiere week they would get back 90 cents on the dollar from the movie theaters. I wouldn't be surprised to eventually see this clever promotional strategy disclosed in Disney's Edgar filings.
What are the 9 components of Common Law Fraud?
(1) a representation of fact; e.g. Captain Marvel made $X at the box office.
(2) its falsity; e.g. Disney 'bought' $Y Captain Marvel tickets.
(3) its materiality; e.g. Investors think the $X is indicative of profitability.
(4) the representer’s knowledge of its falsity or ignorance of its truth; e.g. Disney bought the tickets, or otherwise had them given away.
(5) the representer’s intent that it should be acted upon by the person in the manner reasonably contemplated; e.g. "Disney is profitable, just look at how well Captain Marvel did."
(6) the injured party’s ignorance of its falsity; e.g. Buried on page 2408 of the expense report, in 4-point font.
(7) the injured party’s reliance on its truth; e.g. Investors, or potential investors, desiring to profit.
(8) the injured party’s right to rely thereon; e.g. See above. and
(9) the injured party’s consequent and proximate injury. e.g. Someone invests in Disney.

Hmmm… things could get interesting.

Blogger Randomatos April 26, 2019 6:43 PM  

This movie had the skeleton of a good story, but they padded it so dang much that it was painful to watch. 3 hours of self-satisfied smug potshots at the heroes that normal people actually like, with a good 20 minutes devoted to overly emotional pauses and significant glances. If they hadn't turned Thor into a bad joke, a fan could cut an hour of bloat, message, current year pet worship and completely pointless minor characters, and produce something worth watching again. This one made me angry, to the point of debating whether to even bother with the Rifftrax version when it comes out.

Blogger Whackame40k April 26, 2019 10:09 PM  

Endgame is an endgame for w1te men, or Western Civ in 5 years.. why 2023? The

Dead, drunk, or left in the past... like ironman, thotr, or capt

Or forgotten as antman. This movie is an echoe of liberal longings

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