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Thursday, April 11, 2019

Not-American by definition

On his recent stream, Owen directed us to the 1828 Webster's Dictionary online. And if you happen to consult it, one thing you'll notice is the indisputable fact is that if you're not a descendant of the American Indians or the European nations, you are not an American. Literally and by definition.
AMER'ICAN, adjective Pertaining to America.

AMER'ICAN, noun A native of America; originally applied to the aboriginals, or copper-colored races, found here by the Europeans; but now applied to the descendants of Europeans born in America.
Notice there is nothing said about propositions, ideas, citizenship, or Judeo-Christian values. Those ideas are Fake History concocted as 20th-century immigrant propaganda. This is why the falsifiers and revisionists always attack history. This is why liars attack the truth and those who tell it. This is why evil always attempts to claim that whatever year it actually is, today is always Year Zero.

And to those who might be inclined to argue that the definition has simply changed again, I encourage you to think all the way through exactly what that implies.

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Blogger Unknown April 11, 2019 1:03 PM  

Foreigner
FOR'EIGNER, noun for'aner. A person born in a foreign country, or without the country or jurisdiction of which one speaks. A Spaniard is a foreigner in France and England. All men not born in the United States are to them foreigners, and they are aliens till naturalized. A naturalized person is a citizen; but we still call him a foreigner by birth.

Blogger Elijah April 11, 2019 1:08 PM  

it may even be a stretch to include all European nations, but it is better than the globalist definition that includes every third world savage that will vote democrat.

Blogger gwood April 11, 2019 1:10 PM  

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.”

Blogger Unknown April 11, 2019 1:12 PM  

Also fantastic:

Nation
NATION, noun [to be born]

1. A body of people inhabiting the same country, or united under the same sovereign or government; as the English nation; the French nation It often happens that many nations are subject to one government; in which case, the word nation usually denotes a body of people speaking the same language, or a body that has formerly been under a distinct government, but has been conquered, or incorporated with a larger nation Thus the empire of Russia comprehends many nations, as did formerly the Roman and Persian empires. nation as its etymology imports, originally denoted a family or race of men descended from a common progenitor, like tribe, but by emigration, conquest and intermixture of men of different families, this distinction is in most countries lost.

Blogger Mitch Connor April 11, 2019 1:15 PM  

Posterity
POSTER'ITY, noun [Latin posteritas, from posterus, from post, after.]

1. Descendants; children, children's children, etc. indefinitely; the race that proceeds from a progenitor. The whole human race are the posterity of Adam.

2. In a general sense, succeeding generations; opposed to ancestors.

To the unhappy that unjustly bleed,

Heav'n gives posterity t' avenge the deed.

Blogger Beardy Bear April 11, 2019 1:16 PM  

I find it fascinating, playing around with that dictionary, how many of the usual insults hurled at us are missing.

Blogger Beardy Bear April 11, 2019 1:18 PM  

Nationalism isn't even in that dictionary, likely because it is as normal as drinking water.

Blogger Richard Rahl April 11, 2019 1:23 PM  

I'm disappointed I didn't think to look this up.

The cuckservatives, communists, and Jews will scream that this was written by RACISTS before the Civil War was fought to end slavery and bestow citizenship to the blacks (and by extension all the people of earth). Which is, of course, not primarily why the Civil War was fought. This is how the erasure and/or distortion of history works to destroy nations.

Blogger Alexander April 11, 2019 1:25 PM  

The definitions for "woman" and "nation" are worth reading as well. What a trove.

Blogger Just a Quiet, Homeless Girl Living in a Fallen World April 11, 2019 1:26 PM  

Were slaves not considered Americans? Interesting, it never occurred to me before that next generation slaves might not have been considered American by birth.

Blogger Alexander April 11, 2019 1:27 PM  

Mohammedanize

MOHAM'MEDANIZE, verb transitive To render conformable to the modes or principles of the Mohammedans.

Blogger sammibandit April 11, 2019 1:38 PM  

OT no results found for the word feminism.

Blogger Warunicorn April 11, 2019 1:48 PM  

You know, you mention how we can't be a self-governing nation if we can't decide who gets to come in and you get branded a f*cking Nazi, because Magic Dirt and It's Right There in the Constitution or something.

It's basically why I go straight to rhetoric with these people. I can't stand it anymore.

(I say that with a Mom who's 95% English, according to Ancestry.com. Her relatives stretch all the way back to the colonial era.)

Blogger VFM Bear April 11, 2019 1:50 PM  

If you want a bigger laugh, let's look up those Europeans that Americans are descended from:

EUROPE'AN, noun A native of Europe.

EU'ROPE, noun [Bochart supposes this word to be composed of white face, the land of white people, as distinguished from the Ethiopians, black-faced people, or tawny inhabitants of Asia and Africa.]

The great quarter of the earth that lies between the Atlantic ocean and Asia, and between the Mediterranean sea and the North sea.

Oh my!

Blogger Wraithburn April 11, 2019 1:55 PM  

Thanks for pointing this out, I like that the definition for citizen specifically notes there are native or naturalized.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 11, 2019 1:59 PM  

“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.”
The questions is who is to be the master, you or I.

Blogger LZ April 11, 2019 2:03 PM  

SOD'OMY, noun A crime against nature.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim April 11, 2019 2:06 PM  

The above definition is very helpful, succinct and direct. The use of "Europeans" does much to alleviate the problems faced with "Ourselves and our posterity," as one may follow a line to European heritage rather than the specific heritage of the founders.
This dovetails nicely with a recent video by Blackpilled called "The Art of the Schlemiel". It's a collection of the President and his various statements on immigration, the wall, etc. Certainly gives one more than enough ammo to consider just how much pull Kushner has in the WH.
Link to Blackpilled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh6VSCsxUSQ

Blogger EK April 11, 2019 2:08 PM  

Recently Ilhan Omar stated, in her Somali accent nonetheless, that even though she is a refugee and a muslim she is as American as everyone else....she is as American as the descendants of Mayflower! Collapse is imminent.

Blogger BastionHarm April 11, 2019 2:15 PM  

And to those who might be inclined to argue that the definition has simply changed again, I encourage you to think all the way through exactly what that implies.

And there's a big problem right there, because almost every shitlib and their allies are under the delusion that the diminishment, if not eventual destruction, of America's European stock, will lead to some multi-culti utopia of peace, harmony, unicorns and rainbows!

It never, ever, ever occurs to them that all the First World safety, security, prosperity, and comfort they now enjoy will....be....GONE.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim April 11, 2019 2:18 PM  

Slightly OT, "Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act of 2019 - Bill S. 894"
https://twitter.com/zyntrax/status/1115828241229668358
Note: "We need to develop a clearing house for data collection, reporting, and analysis on white nationalism."

Gonna be an eventful next 20 years for sure.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 11, 2019 2:52 PM  

Just a Quiet, Homeless Girl Living in a Fallen World wrote:Were slaves not considered Americans?


Of course Africans were never American, slave or free. Slaves were human, and many Englishmen whose descendants became Americans came here as indentured servants. African slaves, though human, were never us, never could be.

Blogger Matt April 11, 2019 2:57 PM  

Did they consider all whites (people of European descent I assume) "Americans" at that point or was it just ones of British origin?

Blogger CM April 11, 2019 3:12 PM  

LZApril 11, 2019 2:03 PM
SOD'OMY, noun A crime against nature.


I had to look that up... I thought you were joking.

Blogger CM April 11, 2019 3:15 PM  

Did they consider all whites (people of European descent I assume) "Americans" at that point or was it just ones of British origin?

I'd expect it would be all who comprised the 13 original colonies, which would have included the Dutch.

Blogger Unknown April 11, 2019 3:27 PM  

Arm is not in the dictionary. Arms ONLY refers to weaponry and botany. Um... What do you call my limb attached to my hand?

Blogger Unknown April 11, 2019 3:28 PM  

Oh my!!!! Check this out:

Forearm
FORE'ARM, verb transitive To arm or prepare for attack or resistance before the time of need.

Blogger Rhys April 11, 2019 3:31 PM  

Damn...websters is based and redpilled!

Blogger Didas Kalos April 11, 2019 3:32 PM  

I bet transgender wasn't even a word then. Nope. Not in there.

Blogger sammibandit April 11, 2019 3:32 PM  

Pupil
1. A youth or scholar of either sex under the care of an instructor or tutor.

2. A ward; a youth or person under the care of a guardian.

3. In the civil law, a boy or girl under the age of puberty, that is, under 14 if a male, and under 12 if a female.

Student
1. A person engaged in study; one who is devoted to learning, either in a seminary or in private; a scholar; as the students of an academy, of a college or university; a medical student; a law student

2. A man devoted to books; a bookish man; as a hard student; a close student

Keep a gamester from dice, and a good student from his books.

3. One who studies or examines; as a student of natures works.

Blogger Credo in unum Deum April 11, 2019 3:36 PM  

According to the Constitution: "We the People of the United States in Order to form a more perfect Union ... and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

I don't think any of the emigrants presently coming up from the South resemble the "Posterity" of any of the fifty-six signers of the Declaration of Independence.

Blogger Elijah April 11, 2019 3:51 PM  

was giving woman the right to vote the single biggest mistake by the men of the west?

Blogger Laramie Hirsch April 11, 2019 3:52 PM  

If America were recognized as a nation, and the United States as an empire, I think it'd clear up so much. But the Left and the Establishment Right seem dead set on forgetting what sovereignty even is. The bastards are hell-bent on inverting the world.

Blogger Tanjil Bren April 11, 2019 3:52 PM  

"Those ideas are Fake History concocted as 20th-century immigrant propaganda."

We are similarly assaulted, with slogans like 'nation of immigrants' and 'nation of nations' and 'migrant nation' having been drummed into the population for decades now.

My standard response now: my ancestors didn't migrate to Australia; they created it.

Blogger Tanjil Bren April 11, 2019 3:59 PM  

"It never, ever, ever occurs to them that all the First World safety, security, prosperity, and comfort they now enjoy will....be....GONE."

@20, you are absolutely correct.

The stupid ones (which is most) have no idea how it was created or how it is (increasingly not) maintained.
They are the ones you see happily chopping away at the foundations, and they will be the ones you see staring in disbelief from the rubble and the ashes.

The evil (the guiding hand) simply wishes to see it all burn.

Blogger Rhys April 11, 2019 4:03 PM  

Is there any way to copy the information on this thing? Sooner or later an SJW will see it and try to erase it.

Blogger Coyotewise April 11, 2019 4:05 PM  

The people at webstersdictionary1828.com need a Code of Conduct and it's enforcement mechanisms put in place STAT!

Blogger xevious2030 April 11, 2019 4:06 PM  

Natives of American and European is a big net. Seems to imply large population, born in the geography, not of slave status (at the time), by those providing the definition. Even so, I do not have anything which argues for a difference from the point Vox makes. Whatever words or definitions are used, the action is what it is, the result is what it is, and the attempt at replacement of a civilization is what it is, no matter the grunts, clicks, or whistles used to communicate the idea, the lies used to facilitate it, or the time one wants to use as a starting reference. As a side note, the dictionary was written by someone who disapproved of the practice of slavery.

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=american
http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/nation
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=nation

Blogger Matt Robison April 11, 2019 4:23 PM  

The culture war has always been a war over the dictionary.

Blogger Frank Lee April 11, 2019 4:34 PM  

Why couldn't America just stay the way it was in 1828 forever? Franco managed to keep Spain in the 1940's for decades. If I was to pick a time of perfection in American history, I'm not sure it would be 1828, but heck, if they have the right dictionary definitions, why not?

Interesting to see Owen scanning through old dictionaries for truth like Denzel Washington in the Malcolm X movie. That's going to end well.

Blogger Tars Tarkas April 11, 2019 4:43 PM  

I love the example sentence!
The name American must always exalt the pride of patriotism. - Washington

Funny enough.... Judeo-Christian - no results found. Needless to say, it is in the latest dictionary.

Blogger Beardy Bear April 11, 2019 4:45 PM  

Unknown wrote:Arm is not in the dictionary. Arms ONLY refers to weaponry and botany. Um... What do you call my limb attached to my hand?

In limb it mentions the arm, and so it must have been simply omitted.

Blogger Son of Blob April 11, 2019 4:48 PM  

@EK

She also said while addressing other fake Americans, that on 9/11 some "people did some stuff"....yeah, murdering 3000 is doing stuff. American as baseball and apple pie.
Dude, it's a disgrace that this shit burger can even sniff political office.

Blogger DraveckysHumerus April 11, 2019 4:59 PM  

The (((geniuses))) occupying neo-palestine have just crashed their propaganda craft into the earth's moon. Americans can study the dust plume.

Blogger Beardy Bear April 11, 2019 5:15 PM  

Example for Constitution:

"The New Testament is the moral constitution of modern society."

White pills abound. This must be in my library immediately.

Blogger xevious2030 April 11, 2019 5:15 PM  

@32 Could be seen as an attack on the family. By providing the opportunity for a husband and a wife to engage in faction against one another in a difference of opinion that might not otherwise be a consideration. Allowed for an amplification of identity politics along single male/female lines (not getting onto the alphabet soup nonsense), further faction. Anything which brings women and men into competition rather than into compliment, runs the risk of attacking the family, and the vote was a really big one. Made an already difficult situation very dangerous, difficult to survive. In terms of single mistakes, probably one of the biggest, if not the biggest. Paved the way for around 50,000,000 people to be killed before they were born, pretty big.

Blogger tublecane April 11, 2019 5:27 PM  

Hey, I pass the 1828 test!

Of course, not all of my European ancestors were here at that date. Some were, but not others.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia April 11, 2019 5:27 PM  

Well, the definition HAS changed and its implications ARE obvious.

The real questions are (1) what gets done about it and (2) how do we feel about it?

And the answer to (1) is "not much, if anything" and to (2) it doesn't fucking matter.

To put it in military terms, the GE is doind a delaying action and it may work, for a time, but the gig has been up for a long long time. The United States is a polyglot melting-pot goulash of an enterprise and the cat's out of the bag, the genie is out of the bottle, and pandora's box has been opened -- pick a cliche, any cliche.

My father, a WW2 and depression survivor, told me many things I will never forget, but this is one that's top of the list: "Sometimes making the best of a bad situation is STILL bad."

There you go.

Blogger tublecane April 11, 2019 5:29 PM  

@10- See: Dred Scott v. Sanford.

Blogger Chris Mallory April 11, 2019 5:38 PM  

Prior to the 1840's there was very little immigration to the US. We were 80% or more British Protestant. We did add some Frenchmen and Spaniards with the Louisiana Purchase and annexing Florida.

Blogger tublecane April 11, 2019 5:41 PM  

@12- Try: shrew, harlot, spinster, biddy, crone...

Blogger tublecane April 11, 2019 5:43 PM  

@26- Limb, appendage, sleeve?

Blogger JHypers April 11, 2019 5:48 PM  

It would seem just to make a slight revision:

1) Exclude all Europeans not of colonial British (mostly English) heritage. After all, the "Presbyterian Revolt" was against THEIR monarch. Germans were always foreigners, despite the skin color, and their permanent deformation of American culture as their numbers increased is readily apparent. They nearly had the numbers after the Revolution to make their language official. But if anyone doubts this assertion, answer this question: Did you attend Kindergarten?

2) Include the descendants of the freed African slaves. It's interesting to wonder what would have happened if Blacks were given a land base of their own within the federal system, either one or more of the losing confederate states or yet unorganized western territory, to own and govern directly, instead of "40 acres and a mule." Segregation and Jim Crowe laws thereafter seemed to demonstrate that one big segregation (Black-governed states) may have been preferable to a million local and institutional segregations, down to the ridiculous level white-only drinking fountains.

A similar vein of thought can be found in our modern immigration crisis. Instead of one big beautiful border wall, 100 feet high sunk 25 feet underground with seismic monitoring at every mile to detect any attempted undermining operation...we get a million little walls in the form of gated communities, security guards, surveillance cameras, etc.

In short, Americans are:
1) The Posterity of the colonists of Britain who drove out the Crown and established the nation.
2) The natives whose ancestral land was occupied by the Posterity.
3) The descendants of the Posterity's freed slaves.

That's it.

If "American" can mean potentially anything...then in reality it means nothing.

Blogger Yordan Yordanov April 11, 2019 5:58 PM  

This simple definition is more powerful than any argument, essay or debate on the topic.

Blogger Jeroth April 11, 2019 6:03 PM  

Europeans in general? Was the definition already diluted in 1828? Would it be fair to say that the failure of America is the failure of pan-white nationalism?

Blogger DonReynolds April 11, 2019 6:14 PM  

Just a Quiet, Homeless Girl Living in a Fallen World wrote:Were slaves not considered Americans? Interesting, it never occurred to me before that next generation slaves might not have been considered American by birth.

To answer your question, the US Supreme Court ruled (7-2) that slaves were not citizens of the United States in Dred Scott v Sandford in 1857.

This ruling was overturned by the 14th amendment, which made citizens of the freed slaves, but that amendment did not make American Indians into citizens. That was accomplished in 1924 by Act of Congress and not by any court interpretation of the 14th amendment. This was affirmed by the US Supreme Court in the Elk v Wilkins decision of 1884.

Clearly, the 14th amendment was never taken to mean everybody born on US soil, nor should it be taken that way today.

Blogger tublecane April 11, 2019 6:26 PM  

@55- No, because Lincoln weren't no pan-white nationalist.

Blogger DonReynolds April 11, 2019 6:31 PM  

Matt wrote:Did they consider all whites (people of European descent I assume) "Americans" at that point or was it just ones of British origin?

The first labor strike in North America was in Virginia by Polish glass blowers. They went on strike for the right to vote and it was granted by the colonial government of Virginia. There was a keen need for skills of all sorts in colonial America, including Balts to work the pine forests and timber stands. Naval stores being an important part of colonial commerce.

The Swedes had colonies in the Americas, now known as Delaware and parts of Pennsylvania. These were taken over by the Dutch, who had established New Holland, now known as New York, before being captured and re-captured by the British. The French colony at Quebec extended through much of the Ohio and Mississippi river valleys, now known as the Mid-West and Great Lakes states. The Spanish had colonies from Georgia to Texas and when some of these came under French control they were sold to the US as the Louisiana purchase. These areas were not uninhabited. Little Rock was a small city when control was handed over to US troops by French troops. The people of various origins, who remained in the former colonies, have assimilated as Americans.

Blogger Unknown April 11, 2019 7:00 PM  

Compare "white" in a 1829 and 2019. This is a rabbit-hole all its own.

I may have to do an evolution of words through each publication.

Blogger JC April 11, 2019 7:14 PM  

When you start thinking about it, you notice it everywhere.

Recently I was reminded of "An American Tail", an animated movie about Russian Jews arriving in America in the late 19th Century. So authentically American!

Blogger James Dixon April 11, 2019 7:29 PM  

The same definition was in use in the 1913 version: https://www.websters1913.com/words/American

> The evil (the guiding hand) simply wishes to see it all burn.

Of course. They server their master after all.

> ...it's a disgrace that this shit burger can even sniff political office.

It's a disgrace she was ever allowed in.

Blogger Robert What? April 11, 2019 7:31 PM  

The Shitlibs and their corporate globalist masters want to replace Whitey with the Browns and the Blacks. How long before the Shitlibs realize that without Whites, Browns and Blacks can't do shit?

Blogger Meanoldbasterd April 11, 2019 7:41 PM  

Yes

Blogger Meanoldbasterd April 11, 2019 7:45 PM  

If they were Americans, why was there a need to assimilate?

Blogger ash April 11, 2019 7:50 PM  

Owen's latest streams sound like he's lost it, especially with the Jew stuff. He needs to chill. He sounds like he lost his mind.

Blogger Zaklog the Great April 11, 2019 7:58 PM  

@3 Wow. That Humpty Dumpty quote just took on an entirely new meaning for me. I'd always read it as "Who will be master, the man or the words?" But I just realized that it can also be read as "Who will be master and get to impose his definition upon the other?" which is a real question today. Eesh! That's a bit disturbing.

Blogger DraveckysHumerus April 11, 2019 8:00 PM  

Several Armenians were expressly invited to help colonize what later became known as America. Most anglicized their names as part of the deal and so melted into the background even taking english spouses. Martin The Armenian, Jamestown 1607, instituted silk worm farming in Virginia territory and Garabedian worked on the Consitution nearly two hundred years later. There were others who fought in the Revolution and Civil War. What made them acceptable was a willingness to assimilate, technical know-how and devout Christianity. Armenians are part of the earliest non-aboriginal American bloodline although their tiny numbers failed to enroll them in the dictionaries.

Blogger Matamoros April 11, 2019 8:15 PM  

The Untold Story of German Americans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoX4SYHnmi0&t=2s

Blogger Matamoros April 11, 2019 8:19 PM  

@34:
My standard response now: my ancestors didn't migrate to Australia; they created it.

Exactly. The only Native Americans are those who created America in 1776.

Indians are aborigines.

Blogger Kevin April 11, 2019 8:32 PM  

There's an etymology dictionary online I use for looking up words. It's useful for reading anything written over 100 years ago. Also webster dictionary was considered to be the worst dictionary ever printed because he just made up his own definitions.

Blogger Just a Quiet, Homeless Girl Living in a Fallen World April 11, 2019 8:46 PM  

DonReynolds, great information, thank you. I should've taken the time to look that up.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim April 11, 2019 9:44 PM  

ash wrote:Owen's latest streams sound like he's lost it, especially with the Jew stuff. He needs to chill. He sounds like he lost his mind.

He's been called "crazy" since he started streaming from his backyard. Maybe, just maybe, he's too sane for you to make sense of it.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville April 11, 2019 9:58 PM  

I've had that particular dictionary next to my desk the last 25 years, and it is still my favorite. Love the etymologies that you don't often see in the modern dictionaries.

Blogger Rex Little April 11, 2019 10:39 PM  

From that same online dictionary:

America
AMER'ICA, noun [from Amerigo Vespucci, a Florentine, who pretended to have first discovered the western continent.]

One of the great continents, first discovered by Sebastian Cabot, June 11, O.S. 1498, and by Columbus, or Christoval Colon, Aug. 1, the same year. It extends from the eightieth degree of North, to the fifty-fourth degree of South Latitude; and from the thirty-fifth to the one hundred and fifty-sixth degree of Longitude West from Greenwich, being about nine thousand miles in length. Its breadth at Darien is narrowed to about forty-five miles, but at the northern extremity is nearly four thousand miles. From Darien to the North, the continent is called North america and to the South, it is called South america

By this definition, someone born in Mexico is as American as one born in Virginia or Massachusetts. Obviously, that's not how we use the word "American" today, so the definition has changed.

Blogger Welsh Woodsman April 11, 2019 11:09 PM  

"was giving woman the right to vote the single biggest mistake by the men of the west?"

Yes.
Isaiah 3:12

Blogger Welsh Woodsman April 11, 2019 11:11 PM  

@65
No one cares about your concerns. You're just not that important.

Blogger Akulkis April 11, 2019 11:18 PM  

Years ago, pondering how Lincoln made such a hash of our law by some of the outrages for which if set the precedent, i mentioned on a mailing list that g suspected that Lincoln might have been Jewish - the English town of Lincoln was a haven for Jews over a couple centuries. the others in that venue derided that idea.

turns not my hunch was correct.
http://mileswmathis.com/lincoln.pdf

Blogger Solon April 12, 2019 12:43 AM  

One could argue that he has in fact "found it."

The Jews on Jewtube demonetized him, took away one of his money sources, and attacked/defamed him AND his family.

His anger should be understandable. His issue isn't that he's angry, it's that he let his anger become rage, rather than fury. Look up in the dictionary if you don't understand the difference between those two words.

White pill: he's not the first to realize how absolutely evil (((TPTB))) are, and he won't be the last. More and more people every day are shifting toward Owen's viewpoint.

There will be much rage, and fury, and soon. Historical example: 1930's Germany. Owen is simply one of the bigger names out there who finally realized that the country he lives in has become Weimerica.

But I do agree, he needs to chill. The time is not yet ripe to strap on jackboots. Unthinking rage is unbecoming of a man, he should probably subsume his rage until it smolders into cold fury, before he goes off and pulls a Bowers or a Tarrant before the time is appropriate to do so.

Blogger Toris April 12, 2019 2:17 AM  

TRUMP, noun

1. A trumpet; a wind instrument of music; a poetical word used for trumpet. It is seldom used in prose, in common discourse; but is used in Scripture, where it seems peculiarly appropriate to the grandeur of the subject.

At the last trump; for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised. 1 Corinthians 15:52. 1 Thessalonians 4:16.

Blogger Dave Dave April 12, 2019 4:26 AM  

After explaining what 'anti-Semite' actually means, I was met with the response of "but words can change in meaning over time". If we think that through, that means that if you convince everyone to use a word differently, you have changed the meaning of the word. Since a word would no longer have any consistent meaning, words would have ceased to be useful.
Words have a particular meaning. Using a word incorrectly is something most people do without knowing, but intentionally using a word wrong is undermining our common language.

Blogger Duke Norfolk April 12, 2019 5:48 AM  

Solon wrote:before he goes off and pulls a Bowers or a Tarrant before the time is appropriate to do so.

Or, more likely, inspires some youngster to so.

Blogger The Cooler April 12, 2019 7:43 AM  

Citizenship does not confer nationality. What the fuck is so hard about this?

At the point the definition of "American" was "now applied to the descendants of Europeans born in America," Actual Americans were still in charge of not only who gets granted citizenship, but which citizens were admitted into the nation. And yes, people of European but non-British descent were admitted, thus the conveyance of American-ness. This is how nationality works and has always worked and is the organic means by nations evolve from within.

The problem, now, is that actual Americans are no longer in charge of conveying American-ness; it is issued from without by post-1965, technocratic, liberal consensus-spewing dictocrats who are, themselves, Other.

The ship has been commandeered. This is in fact the wellspring from which the Alt-Right/Nationalist Right in the United States flows.

The muddling of nationality and citizenship is a huge problem and even otherwise intelligent people are fucking it all up.



Blogger VD April 12, 2019 8:24 AM  

Owen's latest streams sound like he's lost it, especially with the Jew stuff. He needs to chill. He sounds like he lost his mind.

Concern troll is concerned. Spare us the psy ops, troll, you're not fooling anyone.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 12, 2019 9:07 AM  

"After explaining what 'anti-Semite' actually means, I was met with the response of "but words can change in meaning over time". If we think that through, that means that if you convince everyone to use a word differently, you have changed the meaning of the word. Since a word would no longer have any consistent meaning, words would have ceased to be useful."

DING EFFING DING!

Blogger Matthew April 12, 2019 9:56 AM  

Doesn't this make Mexicans Americans then? They say that being born on one of the American continents makes you an American and nothing else. Maybe the 1828 definition isn't talking about nationality but simply geography. If Africans born in America are not Americans, in terms of nationality, then shouldn't we be able to say that Aztec-Spaniards are not American either?

Blogger Jeroth April 12, 2019 10:53 AM  

ash wrote:Owen's latest streams sound like he's lost it, especially with the Jew stuff. He needs to chill. He sounds like he lost his mind.

Maybe you and the Jews are the ones who need to chill. I hope you realize that if you had this much access to 99% of professional comedians, Owen would seem like a paragon of sanity by comparison.

Blogger Vlad Z. April 12, 2019 11:50 AM  

I came across a new-to-me antique word reading today, and thought I would share it and the Wikipedia article on the topic (I know, I know..). I have only passing acquaintance with the manosphere, who have perhaps already taken up this topic. , Hopefully some of you will enjoy it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coverture

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 12, 2019 12:11 PM  

Matthew wrote:They say that being born on one of the American continents makes you an American and nothing else.

If you're talking about @73, the description of the continent, they're saying no such thing. Don't confuse the nation with the place the nation lives.

Matthew wrote:Maybe the 1828 definition isn't talking about nationality but simply geography.

Of course! Germans live in Germany. Turks born in Germany are Turks, not Germans. Cars live in garages. People born in garages are people, not cars.

Blogger Rex Little April 12, 2019 1:35 PM  

@87
Don't confuse the nation with the place the nation lives.

The definition of "America" that I quoted above is the only one given in that dictionary; there is no reference to America as a nation rather than as a place. Therefore, the definition of "American" quoted in the post is simply geographical, and says nothing about who is, or is not, a part of the American nation.

Blogger Vlad Z. April 12, 2019 2:27 PM  

I'm an American. The Hindus at work are not Americans. They may be current or future United States Citizens. As an American I don't much like the United States anymore. It's antithetical to the interests of Americans. I'm doubtful reform is possible. The Hindus should understand this, but it upsets them when you explain it to them.

After all in 1948 the Hindus did not merely reform the colonial administrative government of Her Majesty, but rather threw it out as being insufficiently useful for the Indian Hindu people, and replaced it with a more nationalist government.

Which has, interestingly become even more nationalist lately and is headed by the BJP, aka "Hindu Nationalist Party".

This what I want for America. A new, non-colonial type government, focused on the needs and flourishing of the American people (old definition), and an American Nationalist party to strongly support that mission.

Blogger Irish Energy April 12, 2019 2:37 PM  

Citizen
CITIZEN, noun

1. The native of a city, or an inhabitant who enjoys the freedom and privileges of the city in which he resides; the freeman of a city, as distinguished from a foreigner, or one not entitled to its franchises.

2. A townsman; a man of trade; not a gentleman.

3. An inhabitant; a dweller in any city, town or place.

4. In general sense, a native or permanent resident in a city or country; as the citizens of London or Philadelphia; the citizens of the United States.

5. In the United States, a person, native or naturalized, who has the privilege of exercising the elective franchise, or the qualifications which enable him to vote for rulers, and to purchase and hold real estate.

If the citizens of the United States should not be free and happy, the fault will be entirely their own.

CITIZEN, adjective Having the qualities of a citizen

Blogger Irish Energy April 12, 2019 2:41 PM  

Gender
GEN'DER, noun [Latin genus, from geno, gigno; Gr.to beget, or to be born; Eng. kind. Gr. a woman, a wife; Sans. gena, a wife, and genaga, a father. We have begin from the same root. See Begin and Can.]

1. Properly, kind; sort.

2. A sex, male or female

Blogger SirHamster April 12, 2019 7:03 PM  

Rex Little wrote:The definition of "America" that I quoted above is the only one given in that dictionary; there is no reference to America as a nation rather than as a place.

You are quoting from the "American Dictionary OF THE English Language".

Therefore, the definition of "American" quoted in the post is simply geographical, and says nothing about who is, or is not, a part of the American nation.

Liar.

Africans and Asians born in America are excluded by definition.

Blogger logosicon April 12, 2019 8:03 PM  

"...a descendant of the American Indians or the European nations..."

I'm two for two. Gloria Patri

Blogger Mitch Connor April 12, 2019 9:00 PM  

This may be the most interesting one I've found yet.

Ethnic
ETH'NIC

ETH'NICAL, adjective [Latin ethnicus; Gr. from nation from the root of G. heide, heath, woods, whence heathen. See Heathen.]

Heathen; pagan; pertaining to the gentiles or nations not converted to christianity; opposed to Jewish and Christian.

ETH'NIC, noun A heathen; a pagan.

Blogger CynicalMan April 12, 2019 11:12 PM  

Well it wasn't America until it was discovered and named by Europeans and so those living here before then we're not Americans. So stuff that in your pipe and smoke it you identalist pigs.

Blogger Rex Little April 13, 2019 12:00 AM  

In 1828, I don't think American nationalism was much of a thing. The States were considered sovereign entities; the federal government's purpose was mainly to present a united front to foreign powers, most notably England. It was considered natural for a man's primary allegiance to be to his State, rather than to the US.

The Pledge of Allegiance, with its "one nation, under God, indivisible", wasn't written until 1892.

Blogger UKWldKts April 13, 2019 2:27 AM  

That definition is wrong. 20% of the US population when the constitution was ratified was African.

Blogger The Cooler April 13, 2019 6:58 AM  

In 1828, I don't think American nationalism was much of a thing.

You are a moron.

The States were considered sovereign entities; the federal government's purpose was mainly to present a united front to foreign powers, most notably England.

The State is not the Nation.

It was considered natural for a man's primary allegiance to be to his State, rather than to the US.

You are muddling state, country and nation. Because you are an ignoramus.

The Pledge of Allegiance, with its "one nation, under God, indivisible", wasn't written until 1892.

Were you born this obtuse or did you train for it?

Go back to 8th grade and start again.

Blogger The Cooler April 13, 2019 7:17 AM  

That definition is wrong. 20% of the US population when the constitution was ratified was African.

Moron. Being born or living in some place does not confer nationality. If you move to Japan, are you magically Japanese? If you have children in Japan, are they ipso facto Japanese? If your children have children in Japan, are they Japanese?


Blogger The Cooler April 13, 2019 7:25 AM  

20% of the US population when the constitution was ratified was African.

One other thing:

The first attestation of "African American" is from -- surprise, surprise -- the 1960's.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 13, 2019 10:07 AM  

UKWldKts wrote:That definition is wrong. 20% of the US population when the constitution was ratified was African.

110% of the US population was equine. Africans aren't Americans, wherever they may be.

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