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Sunday, May 26, 2019

The European elections

Discuss amongst yourselves. The left-wing Greek government has already called for a general election after unexpectedly losing to the center-right party. In the UK, the Brexit party is expected to take 37 percent of the vote, so it will be interesting to see if they underperform or overperform the polls. In that vein, although Brexit is supposed to take most of its votes from UKIP and the Conservatives, one of its first two seats won tonight was taken from Labour.

Salvini and La Lega are projected to have won in Italy, with nearly one-third of the vote, which will tend to confirm their strength vis-a-vis their governing partner M5, which looks like it will finish third, behind the Socialists. Forza Italia, the other right-wing party, is also doing quite well and will finish fourth.

BNL reports the BREXIT party is doing better than expected in rural areas and that Theresa May’s Conservative party is doing far worse than expected. Labour and Liberal Democrats doing what was expected.

UPDATE: Brexit just surpassed UKIP's total in 2014... and there are still 17 seats left. This is the worst election result for the CuckConservative Party in 185 years. I was sorry to see Daniel Hannan lose his seat as an MEP, but then, I did tell him to throw in with Farage the last time we talked.

56/73 seats declared:

BREXIT: 25 MEPs
LDem: 13 MEPs
Lab: 8 MEPs
Greens: 6 MEPs
Con: 3 MEPs

PC: 1 MEP

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44 Comments:

Blogger steb May 26, 2019 5:32 PM  

A good live report on the UK Results: https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive
TL;DR Brexit are winning everywhere except London, including in places that voted Remain.

Blogger Lauri Stark May 26, 2019 5:33 PM  

Unfortunately the True Finns couldn't increase their share of seats in the European parliament (2 seats total). However, I am happy to announce that Finland is the new ice hockey world championsip. Suomi Finland Perkele, Mörkö on kuningas!

Blogger Yordan Yordanov May 26, 2019 5:37 PM  

Greens are winning too much. This is bad.

Blogger peacefulposter May 26, 2019 5:40 PM  

Lauri, congrats to Finland, especially the goalie. Canada outshot them something like 2 to 1 but could only put one by him.

The Rebel currently has a live feed of the election results and is following Tommy.

Blogger Lauri Stark May 26, 2019 5:49 PM  

Thanks. Canada had better players but Finland had the better team. It's so wild man, all I can think is hockey right now. So I better leave this thread before I derail the discussion. Have a good evening folks!

Blogger peacefulposter May 26, 2019 5:50 PM  

Tommy was robbed.

Blogger SemiSpook37 May 26, 2019 5:52 PM  

Are the reports true? Did Le Pen and the nationalists overtake Macron?

Blogger Franz Lyonheart May 26, 2019 6:00 PM  

Damn. UK Conservatives avoid total wipeout : 1 mandate in East Anglia.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1132767693449437184

Blogger Franz Lyonheart May 26, 2019 6:11 PM  

@7, yes:

https://mobile.twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1132770004582191106

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 26, 2019 6:29 PM  

A friend in Italy thinks "the right" - generally - is losing. But the battlefield is a bit chaotic.

Blogger TheMaleRei May 26, 2019 6:36 PM  

London, being more than 50% foreign born, has unsurprisingly voted for the various Remain parties. Who would have thought that a national capital would be overrun by paper-citizens and then vote against the interests of the heritage-citizens...

The UK isn't lost, but it's not as healthy as it could be.

It would have been nice to see Sargon of Akkad and / or Count Dankula in Brussels, if only to see the apparatchiks flip their feces...

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey May 26, 2019 6:41 PM  

Apparently the left-wing Greek government has collapsed, and a new general election is coming. Syriza just got walloped, coming in a distant 2nd.

Blogger S1AL May 26, 2019 7:02 PM  

The win from Labour isn't that surprising - the Brits I know are all fairly left and 100% on board with Brexit.

The question isn't "who supports Brexit", it's "what's after Brexit".

Blogger Lazarus May 26, 2019 7:21 PM  

Yordan Yordanov wrote:Greens are winning too much. This is bad.

Climate Hysteria.

Blogger Vlad Z. May 26, 2019 7:22 PM  

It's being reported that Marine Le Pen has beaten Emmanuel Macron. Viva la France.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/le-pen-beats-macron-in-eu-parliament-vote-as-far-right-gains-ground/

Blogger Lovekraft May 26, 2019 7:38 PM  

I can't see mass deportion of all Pakistani and recent muslim immigrants in the near future. Perhaps an alteration of the immigrant focus will be a strategy to basically make the nation hostile to the jihadis. Of course, a massive work-for-welfare and other measures are necessary.

Blogger Fuzzums Wuzzums May 26, 2019 7:39 PM  

Let's all hope Sargon doesn't join BREXIT.

Blogger Jeremy Daw May 26, 2019 7:39 PM  

Hannan retained his seat. He's the only Tory MEP in the South-East Region. (The same region that Farage will represent.)

A good night for the Brexit Party. Astonishing, really. The Remain Lib Dems did well too, mopping up votes from Labour and probably some pro-EU Tories. I'm heartened by Salvini and LePen doing well in their respective countries, too.

Blogger TheMaleRei May 26, 2019 7:50 PM  

I'm sorry that Daniel Hannan lost. He seems a good solid sort.

Blogger Steve May 26, 2019 8:13 PM  

Vox, DanHan has been reelected, but nearly all of his Conservative colleagues have been thrown out.

Blogger LiveForever May 26, 2019 8:14 PM  

Remainers in Britain are framing it as a Remain win if you add up the vote share of the explicitly anti-Brexit parties: Lib Dem, SNP, Greens, Plaid and CHUK.

Also, Dan Hannan retained his seat. He was in the same region as Nigel.

Blogger ghostfromplanetspook May 26, 2019 8:34 PM  

Maybe he can join Applebee's fulltime instead.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey May 26, 2019 8:44 PM  

In the WaPo magazine today they had an article about the French ex-patriots in DC and their electioneering. Incredibly to me, France has seats in their legislature for expats, so the French nationals living in the USA have their own representative, and this spills over to EU representation as well.

So, these guys who are French in the USA are almost all dual-citizens and they get to do things like vote for Macron and also for Cankles. The article said that there are over 100k of them in the USA, and to a man they all support Macron. The WaPo looked for but could not find any French national in DC who didn't support Macron and the globalists. What shock, no? They even remarked about how this did not track the electorate in France, where Macron is justly perceived as a jackass these days. These people are French-In-Name-Only. FINOs! And they are dedicated to undermining not only their homeland but also their host country.

Dual citizenship is a bad idea whose time never even arrived. It ought to be banned. Of course, the unelected black-robed tyrants in the USA are the ones who forced this upon us against our will. It's yet another notch in their amazing belt of crimes against the American people.

Blogger Mandos May 26, 2019 8:54 PM  

Not surprised but still a bit disappointed by the results so far. With the ongoing madness one might have hoped for slightly better. Virulent climate propaganda is bearing fruit, though the Greens usually perform well during European election cycles. Also I have to wonder about the actual impact of voter suppression, which I know is commonplace in certain left-wing areas across multiple countries (why would we allow rayciss to have a voice anyway). Probably marginal but even 2-3% have a big impact on the troops' morale are they are assessed against the polls.

Blogger InformationMerchant May 26, 2019 9:29 PM  

@11 It would have been funny, yes, but Dankula could not have won. He was 4th in line for Scotland. Brexit Party and UKIP combined would never have got 4 seats in Scotland.

Sargon was only 2nd in line, so he could've got in if UKIP had done well. BP got 3 seats there.

Overall for the UK, it went pretty much as expected. Disappointed Tommy Robinson didn't get his seat, bookies had him 5:6 on to win it. Also disappointed UKIP did so badly, but I expected that so wasn't surprised. The interesting thing is the Conservative party failed to get the most votes in any of the little areas that are combined to make up the big regions. If everyone voted exactly this way in a general election (they wouldn't), the Tory party would have 0 MPs. That's what I was trying and failing to articulate.

As for the rest of Europe, some good news but like the UK, it was mostly a mixed bag. The globalists did well, particularly the hard left. The nationalists did ok, but not as well as they could have.

Denmark's left having a strong immigration policy is interesting. Farage having the biggest MEPs from a single party is also interesting. European greens are getting a bit scary.

Blogger Hammerli 280 May 26, 2019 10:37 PM  

We will have to see. I think many of us have long thought there would come a day when the Right and Left would have it out by force of arms...and the neo-Communists, like the old Commie scum, have revolution as a prime tenet of their lunacy.

Blogger MendoScot May 26, 2019 10:42 PM  

People are fleeing the traditional parties with their defunct policies.
How this will work out in the post-Brexit elections will be interesting to see.

Blogger sammibandit May 26, 2019 11:01 PM  

Zerohedge said Kurtz did well in Austria despite the scandal. Not surprised a Greens spiritual home in Germany was affirmed. Really eager to see how Germany copes with anti immigrant soc dems to the north gaining seats and a robust anti immigrant RW to the South and West.

Blogger scipioafricanus May 27, 2019 12:27 AM  

Italy needs a Kurgan party.

Blogger James Fox Higgins May 27, 2019 2:16 AM  

What do you imagine the response is going to be from the Priests of the Orthodox Synagogue of Globalism and their minions? I suspect there'll be a shift in the rhetoric away from representative democracy because they know if they keep that model they'll lose. Do you think this will slow down the chance of civil (4G) war across Europe, or accelerate it?

Blogger bobby May 27, 2019 2:23 AM  

" . . . I am happy to announce that Finland is the new ice hockey world championship."

And all across Finland, hundreds of thousands of people in dark rooms and basements are sighing and muttering "so what, life will still suck."

(Inside joke. You have to know Fins.)

Blogger bobby May 27, 2019 2:28 AM  

The hard-right and the hard-left both fought hard and openly for their beliefs. The Centrists of either stripe were wishy-washy and mealy-mouthed.

The voters soundly rejected the Center, and went hard one way or the other.

Moral: stand for something. Anything. But honestly stand for it.

Blogger Steb May 27, 2019 3:09 AM  

A good roundup of the UK results: http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=87249

The number of votes show a deadlock, but the important point is that everywhere the nationalists are showing themselves as disciplined and competent, while the globalists are fracturing into absurd parties like CUK and the greens.
That could turn into a national win at the next election. UKIP probably need to call time though. It's hard to see how they can come back from this.

Blogger Redbeard May 27, 2019 4:44 AM  

Sargon of Retard lost deservingly hard as expected

Blogger Franz Lyonheart May 27, 2019 6:13 AM  

@33, A good roundup of the UK results

How is this awkwardly artificial spin doctoring a "good roundup"? It's ignoring all the relevant parts : that Brexit party is just 6 weeks old with hardly any campaigning capabilities. That the 5ish millions combined for Greens and Lib Dems are not even close to 1/3rd of the 17.4 million Leave votes of the referendum. If it's true what Tony Blair's spin doctor Alistair Campbell (dug out from the grave by a panicked BBC!), if it's true what he said that the Labour Remainera voted Lib Dem (like himself), then the 9something %cent that actually still DID vote Labour would count towards the Leave camp - similarly to the surviving Conservative vote (albeit for some sort of "Brexit deal", presumably. If all this is taken into account, you get the very same result as you get at first glance : a resounding victory for Leave!

Blogger Avalanche May 27, 2019 6:36 AM  

@15 "It's being reported that Marine Le Pen has beaten Emmanuel Macron. Viva la France."

Oh good! Now maybe there will NOT be an off-angle LED-lit glass pyramid built over-top of Notre Dame!!

Blogger JonT May 27, 2019 7:55 AM  

The nationalist/globalist paradigm is supported by the increased green vote. If this is truly the new way the population is split, then a party or ideology which promotes a global solution for a global threat is the natural reflection of the move to nationalism from localists. The new lines appear to be being drawn.

JonT

Blogger thechortling May 27, 2019 9:01 AM  

bbbbbbb-ut our agenda... our mandate! (Far Right means... "anyone who doesn't agree with" Brussels' current despots?

Far-right, populist parties “will not be in the majority” in the EU chamber but will win enough seats to “have the power to cause trouble” in Brussels, Mrs Van Renterghem told France’s Europe 1 radio.

“We must understand that for the first time in the history of the European Parliament, nationalist, populist forces could appear in large numbers,” she continued, as she called for the bloc to be “fixed and completed, but not destroyed.”


European elections: Populists to 'cause trouble' and PARALYSE Brussels warns EU expert

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 27, 2019 10:07 AM  

How long until Brussels kicks Britain out?

Blogger wahr01 May 27, 2019 11:23 AM  

"What do you imagine the response is going to be from the Priests of the Orthodox Synagogue of Globalism and their minions?"


One sentence would sum it up:

The splitter strategy worked and prevented brexiteers from getting the MEP majority they required to override their remain parliament.

Blogger Steb May 27, 2019 12:34 PM  

@33 I agree it was a resounding victory, but it came about thanks to the quality, not the quantity of the voters.
Consider that the leave vote could easily have split itself between Brexit, UKIP and one face of the Conservatives, which would have led to a disaster.
In reality, the leave faction was disciplined enough to abandon party loyalties and rally around Farage to get the win.
The same thing had happened in most of Europe because nationalists know what we want so we can pick the party that can best deliver it.
The globalists, meanwhile don't have a clear idea of their own beliefs, so they end up getting torn apart.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 27, 2019 3:46 PM  

One sentence would sum it up:

The splitter strategy worked and prevented brexiteers from getting the MEP majority they required to override their remain parliament.


@40 wahr01
That assumes that none of the Labour or Con MEPs who did get sent back will back the Brexit Party. But given that they're likely to be disproportionately pro-Brexit (e.g., Daniel Hannan), that seems like a tall order to me.

Blogger MEGAMUS Maximus May 27, 2019 11:43 PM  

It's a fight globalists lose automatically. Globalist issues are just code words for fake problems that require solutions that tend to cause actual problems.

It'll only ever appeal to a minority, one that talks loud and doesn't do anything either due to lack of ability or an inability to take risk

Blogger Balam May 28, 2019 11:47 AM  

Despite the conservative party being cucks there is an actual CUK party that failed to win a single seat in this election. It stands for ‘Change UK’ and is the solidly globalist party calling for a second referendum. I laughed for an hour when I saw that the name was real.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1132915/EU-Elections-2019-European-Union-results-Change-UK-fail-win-seats

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