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Sunday, May 26, 2019

The Italian frameup

Neon Revolt is breaking important news out of Italy regarding the connection between Italian intelligence and the illegal Deep State campaign against the Trump campaign:
Members of Italian intelligence were approached by Hillary Clinton, the Obama Administration, and the Deep State in order to frame trump by PLANTING EVIDENCE on American servers to force Trump to step down from office.

In other words, members of Italian intelligence found a target in Occhionero, a Republican-sympathizer who had two servers for his company, Westland Securities, located in America. One was in Washington State, and the other in West Virginia.

The plan was for Italian Intelligence to hack into these servers, plant classified emails from Hillary’s servers inside these servers on American soil, and then alert the FBI.

The FBI would then raid these locations, “discover” these e-mails, investigate, link these servers to Trump…

And then force Trump to resign.

Do you understand the implications of what I’m saying here? This is like a policeman planting evidence to fabricate a crime. And if the Italian Intelligence actually has ACTUAL classified e-mails from Hillary Clinton, that’s another crime in-and-of itself.
Now that a number of those high-ranking Italian intelligence officials have been forced to step down by the new nationalist Italian government, the story is beginning to leak out through the Italian press courtesy of their intended patsy.

Cappotto and Pereno went to US in May 2017 to cooperate with FBI; precisely in the days Comey was fired. One of my servers was in Seattle WA where they got on May 9, and opened it first; exactly the day of Comey’s firing. Then they went to the other one in West Virginia on May 12. I am pretty sure what McCabe defines the “10 Days in May” refers exactly to these events. Polizia Postale had created a big expectation at the FBI that they would find something against Trump. When they opened the servers and got nothing, Rosenstein decided to pull McCabe out of the investigation but, in order to preserve the confidentiality of the CHS, he nominated Mueller. So, it is very likely that the CHS the media says being in Comey’s notes, “is” De Gennaro; and McCabe must obviously be aware of “who” he is. The whole flop turned then game from McCabe to Mueller; still De Gennaro’s buddy, however.

This is serious, hard-core treason on the part of high-ranking US officials being revealed here. And it's all coming out, most likely sooner rather than later.

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47 Comments:

Blogger Crave May 26, 2019 5:14 AM  

It's been a while since we've had good, cleansing fire from teams tasked with piercing truth probes into the tiny, dark places where evil resides.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart May 26, 2019 5:52 AM  

Once this is all proven, then "Lock her up" won't be anywhere near sufficient anymore:

18 U.S. Code § 2381. Treason: Whoever is guilty of treason and shall suffer death.

Blogger stats May 26, 2019 6:00 AM  

The nexus of these claims is a shaddy Italian Quant (didn't know there was such a thing) by the name of Occhionero. He has been convicted of hacking and, from what I can tell, still fighting charges. He claims there was a high-level intelligence operation to frame Trump using Occhionero's servers in the US. The conspiracy is suspiciously convoluted and Occhionero has no real evidence. If this conspiracy turns out to be true I'll celebrate, but I'm not holding my breath.

Blogger VD May 26, 2019 6:08 AM  

The nexus of these claims is a shaddy Italian Quant (didn't know there was such a thing) by the name of Occhionero.

And if that's all there was, I would not pay attention to it. The fact that the Italian government is currently cleaning its intelligence house makes it potentially very significant.

Blogger wreckage May 26, 2019 6:10 AM  

My question is, if this was planted, why was it not found? it should have been much simpler, AND foolproof, unless several key players were not aware of the plan to plant the evidence.... which would make sense if you wanted to keep them "clean", but would it be worth the effort?

Either way, the seismic shift in politics continues.

Blogger wreckage May 26, 2019 6:14 AM  

Given that it was all of: globalist, intelligence, AND Italian, if the incoming government doesn't find dirt on the old intel guard, I'll eat my hat.

But the incoming crew, being Italian as well, is probably going to be.... vigorous, if not outright vengeful. So I expect a much more brutal scouring than you'd get in the USA. I defer to Vox' experience with modern Italy, this is based on the tales and characters of local migrant Italians.

Blogger Miguel May 26, 2019 6:15 AM  

The American high-ground in terms of "rule of law" is being exposed as a Deep State lie. Remember: these are the same traitors who want to "spread democracy" in the world, which is nothing more than a variation of "tikkum olam" (and we all know what a fraud that is).

Blogger VD May 26, 2019 6:18 AM  

My question is, if this was planted, why was it not found?

Read the article. They screwed up. Italians executed with less than perfect efficiency. Imagine that....

Blogger Stilicho May 26, 2019 6:35 AM  

Potus did start using the word "treason" in tweets recently.

If this story is true, then no wonder the rats are pointing fingers at each other. One does hope they'll be subjected to their own favorite tactic of a no-knock raid at 2 am when they are arrested. Among other things.

Blogger Cobrates May 26, 2019 6:37 AM  

Why do we still have intelligence agencies anyway? Have they ever done something useful for the people they're supposed to serve?

Every glimpse the public gets into their doings (which, I suppose, is just the tip of the iceberg) is always beyond evil.

Wouldn't we all be better off without those goons?

Blogger ZhukovG May 26, 2019 6:42 AM  

From the article:

"Now… why those emails never showed up on those servers isn’t immediately apparent to me. Did the CNAIPIC just screw up that badly, or were there White Hats working overtime? It’s hard to say."

I lean toward 'White Hats'. Italians didn't just wake up one morning and decide to turn Nationalist. I imagine more than a few folks in Italian intelligence organizations are sick of their country being a satrap of the American Empire and the 4th Reich.

Blogger Avalanche May 26, 2019 7:10 AM  

@5 "My question is, if this was planted, why was it not found? it should have been much simpler,"

Go read through Neon's article -- yes, the whole long complicated thing -- and your question will be answered... You cannot make a determination of what's going on without actually looking at the whole description of what's going on! Vox put the link at the TOP of his blog entry, yes?

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 26, 2019 7:17 AM  

If this was not an anarcho-tyranny I would expect something to come of this.

Blogger Robert What? May 26, 2019 7:24 AM  

Why Italy?

Blogger Silent Draco May 26, 2019 7:50 AM  

Why Italy? At first look, it's a second or third tier player, and not a Big Name, and an reputation for comic ineptness.

At second look, they're in a very unfriendly area, and they did break Mafia power through similar intel and black ops.

Potential to be very significant, and the potential jumps considerably if one of those named in Neon Revolt's article or removed by the government has a tragic, unexplained 'accident' - too late at that point. A conspiracy has a small number of members, including key nodes and expendable fuse links. Breaking a conspiracy means even quieter work and fast action, to grab intact networks and keep the fuses from dying first.

Blogger Shimshon May 26, 2019 7:56 AM  

Robert What? wrote:Why Italy?

Maybe Obama and Hillary like their lackeys to be pre-collapsed?

Blogger John May 26, 2019 7:59 AM  

"He is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the minister of God who avenges God's wrath on the evildoer."

Destroy them.

Blogger #7139 May 26, 2019 8:02 AM  

The rabbit hole, it keeps getting deeper.

Blogger tuberman May 26, 2019 8:08 AM  

This was an important article by Neon. DS tried every weird back-door possible to get rid of POTUS.

The good news, paper trails everywhere!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 26, 2019 8:12 AM  

Conservative Inc. has for decades told us how intelligent the Left is, sure. On a good day they approach the intelligence and wit of a second year student chicky at an Ivy, on a bad day somewhere approaching the Kardashian's audience level of competence.

All that half wit Hillary had to do was go to a couple of flyover states, lie to the rubes, win this stupid election and no matter how mouthy her conspirators would be in telling the world about all this and they would brag about their conspiracy it would not matter since she would own government and media power, but NO.

Blogger tuberman May 26, 2019 8:37 AM  

"If this was not an anarcho-tyranny I would expect something to come of this."

"Nothin' is habbening, Nothin' is habbening, Nothin' is habbening" says another smart guy. Say it a few more times, and click your ruby slippers.

Guess what? If you were in POTUS's shoes, your head would be on the end of a pike by now.

Blogger ReluctantMessiah May 26, 2019 8:54 AM  

Vox, you have some friends that can translate the Italian documents?

Blogger xevious2030 May 26, 2019 9:00 AM  

The people are way off on Qdrop #97, the silent ones. The entire post is a naritive, it's a key setting a cypher lock. One of those things that is true at face value, knowing the contexts. Anyway, the silent ones ought to be clear from the post, don't understand why people have a hard time with things like that, but they do.

Why Italy? The Illuminati. One of those things where art and reality are not entirely mutually exclusive. The better question is why Occhionero? Answer the answer to that seems obvious (in terms of the results, to uncover the hidden in order to clear his name).

Blogger wreckage May 26, 2019 9:00 AM  

@12 Neon Revolt is long-winded and boring. I find him physically painful to read. I'll go have a look, but I'm here on Vox' blog looking for Vox' opinions, which are invariably short, sharp, and witty.

Blogger tuberman May 26, 2019 9:13 AM  

wreckage wrote:@12 Neon Revolt is long-winded and boring. I find him physically painful to read. I'll go have a look, but I'm here on Vox' blog looking for Vox' opinions, which are invariably short, sharp, and witty.



Short, sharp, and witty is great, yet "long-winded" details are necessary with such articles, as in, people asked on here for those details. If you are happy with quick summaries, well, that's just you.

"Boring" details fight against DS niggling.

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 26, 2019 10:12 AM  

Why Italy?

The coup involved members of the global intelligence community, including individuals from the UK, Australia, Italy, and Israel, that we've heard so far. And the US of course. Probably others.

These people think of themselves as a supra-national ruling class, and Trump was a threat to all of them, so they all pitched in. One way they protect themselves is to make sure they all share culpability, so each nation's group contributed in various ways. If the CIA and Mossad did everything themselves, they would be more vulnerable.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville May 26, 2019 10:37 AM  

Why Italy?

The CIA has worked with the Italian government in the past such as with Operation Gladio.

Blogger VD May 26, 2019 10:48 AM  

Just a reality check for people that's all.

I suggest you stop providing these "reality checks" if you want to continue posting here.

Blogger Jack Ward May 26, 2019 11:23 AM  

Have to read all these comments, this posting. No time just now. But, regardless the thoughts, negative here, there, about Neon Revolt, I find that I'm hitting his blog almost as much as Vox. Really have to give my ultimate approval, for what its worth, and say I Stand with Neon just about as much as with Vox and the GE. And, thats a lot of standing, my friends. My feet may be getting tired.

Blogger Cetera May 26, 2019 11:26 AM  

wreckage wrote:@12 Neon Revolt is long-winded and boring. I find him physically painful to read. I'll go have a look, but I'm here on Vox' blog looking for Vox' opinions, which are invariably short, sharp, and witty.



Neon desperately needs an editor, needs to learn how to use footnotes, and needs to outline/ It would be very helpful it he would provide an executive summary and a separate gallery of who's who. Most of his articles also need to lead up front with why certain things are important, or what he's actually focused on, because by the time you get to the end you discover you were holding the wrong things in memory and have to go back and reread pay attention to different details.

But all that being said, he's doing great work. His writing is meaningful and important. I could not put everything together that he has. I don't have the time, and I'm skeptical I'd have the patience.

We don't get the luxury of having everyone on our side have the skillset VD does regarding communicating/writing/editing. Sometimes you just have to do the work and wade through the other stuff. NeonRevolt is one of the most valuable assets our team has. He puts in the hours on the 8chan boards, does his own research, and writes it all up. I'd give him a pallet of money for his efforts, if I could.

Blogger Sean May 26, 2019 11:52 AM  

All Trump needs to do is Build the Wall and Drain the Swamp. Even if he achieves only 1 objective, I believe it will be Trumpslide 2020.

Blogger Mocheirge May 26, 2019 12:06 PM  

With all these deep state stories surfacing lately, Genesis's "The Knife" has been repeating in my head with increasing frequency; particularly the part about the "palace of old".

Blogger ace May 26, 2019 12:30 PM  

Well it wouldn't be the first time a would-be tyrant was disappointed by the Italians.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl May 26, 2019 1:07 PM  

Is this your oblique way of calling Hitler a "would be tyrant," or are you referring to Mussolini?

I don't get what you're implying.

Blogger DonReynolds May 26, 2019 1:40 PM  

The punishment for Treason is not jail time, so we need to stop talking about locking people up or firing them from government positions.

The punishment for Treason is a last prayer, a blindfold and a cigarette.

If this country is not willing to do that to celebrity politicians, then there is no reason to go down that road....which includes a very public show-trial.

During the Watergate scandal under Nixon, G. Gordon Liddy begged his handlers to tell him which street corner he needed to stand on to be assassinated, so none of his family would be harmed. He correctly understood the situation.

Blogger Hammerli 280 May 26, 2019 2:32 PM  

This will have interesting long-term implications. Covert meddling in another country's internal politics is not a friendly act. And getting foreign intervention to prop up your regime...well, ask Charles I of England and Louis XVI of France how that worked out.

Blogger xevious2030 May 26, 2019 3:03 PM  

Lock her up, means justice served. So, for treason what is for treason. I have no misgivings what these people had in mind, and they repent not. Fair game, let the wheels of justice roll. They had choices, they had assurance, they pissed it away.

Blogger Hammerli 280 May 26, 2019 5:32 PM  

Technically, the Dems have not committed Treason. That crime is defined in the Constitution itself, repeated in 18 USC Section 2381. It requires giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war.

The crimes they have committed are Sedition and Seditious Conspiracy. Maybe Rebellion or Insurrection. Plus a wide variety of other crimes. I doubt we will have the satisfaction of public hangings. But welding the prison doors shut will give some solace.

Blogger justaguy May 26, 2019 7:26 PM  

The Dems have decided that facts do not matter, all that they have to do is yell Trump colluded or now Trump obstructed, regardless of truth. The mainstream media repeat and amplify this without caring if it is true and the majority of people do not know or have the time to dig out the truth.

While I hope that DOJ actually figures out what happened and tells/reports a story-- I have little hope. The IG already covered-up wrong-doing in the Hillary investigation. The foreign intelligence sources are cryptic at best and will minimize damage-- so all that is left is unanswered questions and a bad Fisa warrant that can be blamed on the assertions of the low-level agents (Struck) that assembled the facts. It will be covered as "he believed the dossier and the British". Everything will simply be that-- some low level mistakes and the higher ups just doing their job.

Boy did Sessions screw Trump over. This will be one the worst mistakes ever made by an AG-- he pretty much neutralize Trump for 4 years. All because he is a typical Repub-- coward, no backbone, no fight and no long term thinking about consequences.

Blogger Damelon Brinn May 26, 2019 8:38 PM  

It requires giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war.

That gets interesting in the context of the War on Terror. Depending on definitions, we have a LOT of enemies.

Blogger Mr. Bee May 26, 2019 9:39 PM  

"Neon Revolt" - LOL

Blogger Dire Badger May 26, 2019 9:49 PM  

What are you supposed to do if your Schadenboner lasts more than 4 hours?

Blogger Guy Incognito May 26, 2019 10:24 PM  

Solitary confinement for three months before trial?

Blogger wreckage May 27, 2019 6:35 AM  

@30, I agree on all points. I have read some of Neon Revolt's stuff and found that once digested it was interesting; but he pushes out a lot of fluff content and does so, as you say, with major formatting and readability issues.

Vox seems to parse it fairly well, but I find some of it so disorganized as to be confusing, in that I can't tell if I am reading it correctly or just projecting my own thoughts onto it; and since I find it a hard slog and have absolutely nothing to contribute to the data-sorting and pattern-finding, either pro or con NR's central theses, I prefer to avoid it.

Blogger Oswald May 27, 2019 9:43 AM  

I think this is a red herring. If Clinton and Obama worked with a foreign power to get rid of Trump, then we need look no further then British Intelligence. Why is that Christopher Steele always referred to as a "former" British Agent? This is part of the media coverup.

No, it is my opinion, that Steele was still working for British Intelligence when he built his dossier. That is the real story.

Blogger Cetera May 27, 2019 3:15 PM  

Hammerli 280 wrote:Technically, the Dems have not committed Treason. That crime is defined in the Constitution itself, repeated in 18 USC Section 2381. It requires giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war.

The crimes they have committed are Sedition and Seditious Conspiracy. Maybe Rebellion or Insurrection. Plus a wide variety of other crimes. I doubt we will have the satisfaction of public hangings. But welding the prison doors shut will give some solace.


Here's the law:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

No active war is necessary. No declared war is necessary. Just that someone levies war against the U.S. when they owe allegiance to the U.S.

Levying War:
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Levying+war
LEVYING WAR, crim. law. The assembling of a body of men for the purpose of effecting by force a treasonable object; and all who perform any part however minute, or however remote from the scene of action, and who are leagued in the general conspiracy, are considered as engaged in levying war, within the meaning of the constitution. 4 Cranch R. 473-4; Const. art. 3, s. 3. Vide Treason; Fries' Trial; Pamphl. This is a technical term, borrowed from the English law, and its meaning is the same as it is when used in stat. 25 Ed. III.; 4 Cranch's R. 471; U. S. v. Fries, Pamphl. 167; Hall's Am. Law Jo. 351; Burr's Trial; 1 East, P. C. 62 to 77; Alis. Cr. Law of Scotl. 606; 9 C. & P. 129.

Attempting to overthrow the government with the aid of foreign state powers certainly meets the stated legal definitions. It IS an act of war attempted by force.

It can also be sedition, rebellion, insurrection, but it meets the legal framework of treason in my inexpert opinion.

Blogger OneWingedShark May 27, 2019 11:00 PM  

John wrote:"He is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the minister of God who avenges God's wrath on the evildoer."

Destroy them.

Amen.

Hammerli 280 wrote:Technically, the Dems have not committed Treason. That crime is defined in the Constitution itself, repeated in 18 USC Section 2381. It requires giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war.
You are wrong, there is no "in time of war" qualifier — the text of the Constitution reads:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
Thus, there are two possible treasonous acts: (1) levying war upon the States, and note that it is NOT the federal government there, or (2) adhering to the enemies of the States [by] giving them aid and comfort.

justaguy wrote:The IG already covered-up wrong-doing in the Hillary investigation.
[…]
Boy did Sessions screw Trump over. This will be one the worst mistakes ever made by an AG— he pretty much neutralize Trump for 4 years. All because he is a typical Repub— coward, no backbone, no fight and no long term thinking about consequences.

You're right about the Hillary-investigation coverup; that Trump didn't reverse that BS Comey-speech and order the DOJ to prosecute is… highly disappointing. The political blow-back would have been enormous, and that's not even considering how much the exposure of the Clinton Foundation's influence-peddling, pay-to-play, and other corruption would devastate the political and bureaucratic classes.

Sessions was a bad call, which I knew at the time: he showed his true colors with that "Iran Deal"… speaking of which, isn't it funny how the US just HAD to pay them off a with that deal a few years ago, but NOW, all of a sudden, they're the bad guys and we just have to invade!? — But, no, I guess I'm wrong for remembering this, after all, we've alsways been at war with EastAsia.

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