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Monday, May 27, 2019

The self-destruction of the Conservative Party

I won't be terribly surprised if the Republican Party eventually suffers a similar fate if the pro-immigration establishment retains control of the party. I think it is reasonably safe to assume that the national vote share of the Conservative Party in the UK in general elections is going to go the way of its vote share in the European elections if it does not learn that the voters eventually lose their faith in a party which fails to deliver on its most important promises.


Daniel Hannan gets it, but after listening to the Conservative MP who is currently the Defence Minister speak last night, it is obvious that many in the Conservative establishment don't. They are still declaring No Deal out of bounds even as the people are beating them into extinction due to their refusal to take Britain out of the EU without a terrible deal imposed on them by the EU leaders. The fact that the Tories must listen to the British electorate doesn't mean they will do so, any more than Republicans appear willing to listen to the US electorate about its complete lack of interest in fighting wars on behalf of Israel.

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Blogger Ron Winkleheimer May 27, 2019 7:04 AM  

They were raised in a technocratic ethos. The job of the elite is to inform the masses what the proper course of action is, so that they can vote to ratify it. Thus maintaining the "consent" of the governed.

Blogger TheMaleRei May 27, 2019 7:25 AM  

Yet more and more evidence that it's all controlled opposition, with only a handful of exceptions here and there...

Blogger David Stanley May 27, 2019 8:09 AM  

Rename it the Mercantile party. 're name the Labour party the Lazy party. The Greens as the Utopian party and the lib dems as the Obedient Party.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 27, 2019 8:27 AM  

When the conservatives are smoking the same stash of Cultural Marxism as the globalist left, yeah there is not much choice in the matter, all the parties are out to smash sexism, racism and homophobia, blah, blah, blah.

Blogger Oswald May 27, 2019 9:00 AM  

The republicans lost the house because they did not deliver on what they promised and therefore people did not show up to vote for them.

Sometimes I wonder if there really is a national two party system. The democratic party is surely a real party, but I wonder about the republican party. They claim to espouse certain things, but when it comes time to do the right thing, they never seem to deliver.

Blogger ZhukovG May 27, 2019 9:10 AM  

Be fair. How can one become wealthy by doing what the voters want?

Though, I think a corrupt politician is better than a ideological one.

The corrupt pol will follow the money and is at least somewhat controllable. The ideologue however, will follow their heart, dragging their country along, to whatever hell on earth awaits.

Blogger Brett baker May 27, 2019 9:17 AM  

If they were the Mercantile Party, they'd criticize Trump for inadequate tariffs.

Blogger marco moltisanti May 27, 2019 9:27 AM  

Somewhat on topic:

At mass yesterday, the closing hymn was "America the Beautiful." The Asian couple behind us audibly guffawed and then stood up and left, as did about half the congregation, many if not most of them foreigners/paper Americans.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother May 27, 2019 9:35 AM  

The closing hymn at my BAPTIST church yesterday was God Bless America. No one guffawed, no one left, and everyone stood.

Take that, you bald Venetian mountebank!

Blogger marco moltisanti May 27, 2019 9:45 AM  

@9 I don't know what a mountebank is, and I prefer "balding" not "bald." I'm also not Catholic, the wife is. Now if you're trying to imply that the Catholic church is inherently unamerican in some way then...I'd probably have to agree with you. Spanish mass attendance far greater than English mass attendance, enthusiastic support for mass immigration, priests admonishing us to avoid the "sin of racism," heritage Americans vastly outnumbered by paper Americans, and so on. They still keep up appearances by conducting her church community meetings in English, even though the priests often don't speak it well and over 80% of the attendees would understand fine if they were to switch into Spanish.

Blogger binks webelf May 27, 2019 10:04 AM  

After I watched the related Darkstream last evening, I was not at peace. After all, Brexit '16 & Trump made them mad... this will send the globalists ballistic.

Watch for false flags, war-moves, and big dirty tricks to distract everyone UKistan & the EU from the populist revolution that seems to be taking place in may places in the world. IMHO, they will pretend nothing has changed.. at least for a while.

Perhaps MP Tobias Ellwood is sending that signal, as a pre-emptive move, and a directive to the controlled & converged UK media.

A cornered rat is more dangerous than one roaming about freely.

Blogger David Ray Milton May 27, 2019 10:31 AM  

A very encouraging Darkstream last night. We can only hope in 2020 that our ballots will be full of nationalistic/pro-sovereignty candidates.

Blogger Long Live The West May 27, 2019 10:32 AM  

"Sometimes I wonder if there really is a national two party system. The democratic party is surely a real party, but I wonder about the republican party. They claim to espouse certain things, but when it comes time to do the right thing, they never seem to deliver."

You can't run on an anti abortion platform if abortion is already banned. Remember, the #1 job of government is to ensure that it is always needed.

Blogger Crew May 27, 2019 10:40 AM  

The Labour Party is already claiming the Russians did it!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/05/here-we-go-labour-party-crank-alastair-campbell-accuses-nigel-farage-of-taking-russian-rubles-after-stunning-brexit-win-in-eu-elections/

Blogger Mark Stoval May 27, 2019 10:47 AM  

Someone famous once observed that all governments tend to move to the left over time. He also observed that as a state accumulates power it tends toward totalitarianism.

Blogger basementhomebrewer May 27, 2019 10:48 AM  

You can't run on an anti abortion platform if abortion is already banned. Remember, the #1 job of government is to ensure that it is always needed.

They really don't care about social issues but use them to get support. The true agenda of the GOP is pleasing their major donors. That means cheap foreign labor. Their donors are degenerates and only tolerate the official stance of the party on social issues so long as no progress is made on them. If they thought they didn't need the voters on social issues they would change the party platform in a second.

Blogger Nostromo May 27, 2019 11:14 AM  

Where's my up vote button?!

Blogger Tars Tarkas May 27, 2019 11:22 AM  

I don't know... that chart looks like there has a been a secular decline in the EU elections for the Tories and Tory vote share in the general is completely disconnected from the EU elections.
The "lesson" they are going to "learn" from this election is that they MUST deliver a Brexit, no matter how bad it is. The people they work for want to either overturn the Brexit vote or a bad deal Brexit and that is what they intend to deliver. It would not be in the slightest bit surprising if the public must vote again. The status quo will always be defended.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 May 27, 2019 12:07 PM  

Long Live The West wrote:"Sometimes I wonder if there really is a national two party system. The democratic party is surely a real party, but I wonder about the republican party. They claim to espouse certain things, but when it comes time to do the right thing, they never seem to deliver."

You can't run on an anti abortion platform if abortion is already banned. Remember, the #1 job of government is to ensure that it is always needed.


And Ron Paul proved this was the case every year he was in office by introducing an abortion ban bill in Congress.

He never did get more than two co-sponsors.

Blogger John May 27, 2019 12:08 PM  

"Someone famous once observed that all governments tend to move to the left over time."

I think that's just a reflection of the fact that the elites, intellectuals, and smart people tend to think Christianity is stupid.

When the elites, intellectuals, and smart people support Christianity, governments do not trend left over time.

Blogger Jew613 May 27, 2019 12:24 PM  

I keep waiting for that first war for Israel. Hey, one of these days it might even happen.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 27, 2019 12:26 PM  

"many if not most of them foreigners/paper Americans."

@marco moltisanti
The term "Fake American" triggers them as badly as "sodomite" does the gays, so of course I recommend it.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 12:43 PM  

I'm under the impression that people here think America always does Israel's bidding. If you study history I think you will find it is a little more complicated. For example the USA embargoed arm shipments to Israel during Israel's War of Independence. The post office opened parcel dent to Israel to search for arms. In 1954 Israel raided a fedayeen camp. Eisenhower's people got really annoyed. In 1956 Israrl conquered the Sinai. Eisenhower's people pressured them to give it back. The Israelis asked "What is Nasser makes trouble again. Americans said not to worry, they USA would help out. In 1967 Nasser started up again. Yhe USA told Israel, "you're on your own." In 1973 The IDF had the Rgyptian 2nd army surround. Kissinger pressured the Israelis to allow food and water to be brought to the surrounded Egyotians even before there was any sort of cease fire. He also pressured the Israelis to give up the East Bank of the Suez Canal. He also made them give up the Eastrtn edge of the Golan, even though Isrsrl was winning. In 1982 Israel went into Lebanon to get the PLO after a terror attack. They had the PLO surrounded in a Beirut. Reagan said "Let the PLO go." He sent marines to cover their evacuation. A terrorist bomb the marine barracks and killed over 200 marines protecting the PLO. At that time Christian's killed Moslims in Sabra and Shatilla. The Americans yelled at the Israelis Shaton was forced to resign. During the first Gulf war Scuds were falling on Tek Aviv. The Israelis wanted to take out the SCUD sites. Bush said not to, that he would send Patriots.

Blogger Jonathon Davies May 27, 2019 12:45 PM  

The alleged Conservatives are in full self destruct mode. They are full of globalists, were led by globalist May and will elect another globalist pretend Brexiteer. They just can't help themselves. The Brexit Party swept the board standing on a no deal pledge. They are obsessed with London and virtue signalling to the Labour Party. They have turned against their own voters. They are only going one say, and that is electoral oblivion, regardless of who the leader is.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 12:47 PM  

My father told me has was involved in running guns to the Hagana in 1948. He told me what they did was disassemble the guns, hid each piece in a separate cargo shipment, and reassemble them at the other end.

Blogger VD May 27, 2019 1:17 PM  

I keep waiting for that first war for Israel. Hey, one of these days it might even happen.

Several of them already have. Apparently you haven't been reading the neocon war plans.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 1:22 PM  

VD

When did the shift happen? In 1956 Nasser was friendly with the Soviets. Syria has been a client of the Rusdians for a really long time. Isrsrls relationship with the USA has always been complicated. It took like 70 years to move the embassy to Israel's actual Capital. Even Trump would not allow an Israrli official to accompany him when he went to visit the Wailing Wall. See, its complicated.

Blogger OvergrownHobbit May 27, 2019 1:25 PM  

No one who has been paying attention to any aspect of the U.S. military, supports fighting any foreign wars.

Israel, like Taiwan, or Poland (all of which I admire) are on their own. Mi dispiace.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 1:31 PM  

Heck, whenever the Israelis put up a housing project someone in America yells at the Israelis about undermining the peace process. But when there is a terrorist attack someone I'm the USA yells at the Israeli about not letting this undermine the peace process. Oh, and there's lots of talk about proportional response.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 1:33 PM  

I even recall reading that Obama made Netayahu enter the White hiysr through the side door. He also made him wait while he ate dinner with his daughterd. That could be fake news, but it does fit the pattern.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 1:38 PM  

Oh, so just remembered. When the Israelis took out Saddam nuclear reactor, lots of Americans got really annoyed. Reagan had to reign his people in.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 1:42 PM  

Oh, and before I forget. We've got moslims and moslim sympathizers 8n Congress now. They say nasty things about Israel and its okay. I see a pattern that's been going on for seventy years. Isn't that what smart people do? See patterns?

Blogger Tars Tarkas May 27, 2019 1:57 PM  

natschuster wrote:Even Trump would not allow an Israrli official to accompany him when he went to visit the Wailing Wall. See, its complicated.

So if you don't get every single thing you want in every single detail, then it's "complicated" and we're not REALLY on your side.

Then you wonder why so many people are "antisemetic!"

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 27, 2019 2:04 PM  

@natschuster,
Lebanon, Gulf War 1, Gulf War2, and Syria have all been at the behest of Israel. The US has never had a national interest in these countries.
And, oh no! (((Kissinger))) interfered in Israeli affairs! Guess what, he's one of yours, interfering in OUR affairs.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 2:07 PM  

Tars

I personally dont expect Americans to jump. I addressing the belief that many people seem to ecpress that the USA jumps whenever Israel says to. But things are complicated.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 2:16 PM  

Snidely

Which Lebanon are you referring to? 1983? Reagen sent the marines to protect the PLO. I was always under the impression that Gulf War 1 was for Kuwait. The Israel's actually had to absorb SCUD missiles then. I recall GULF war 2 about 9/11. Then, if my memory serves correctly it was Obama who got us into Syria to help his friends m, the Moslim Brotherhood people. See, Obama liked Islamists, what with all that talk of Arab Spring. That when he talked about lines in the sand. Of course. You may have information that I an nit privy to.

Oh, and Kissinger was acting on behalf of the USA. He was The Sec of State.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 27, 2019 2:37 PM  

natschuster wrote:I was always under the impression that Gulf War 1 was for Kuwait.
When and why did America start caring about the Kuwaiti royal family? I recall very well at the time that despite all the lies being told in the papers (Kuwaiti infants bayonetted in hospital incubators!) not a single person I ever talked to thought we needed to do anything about it. Yet, Israel deterimined that Hussein needed his nose punched, and had the US Army punch it. And then spent a decade whining that we didn't kill him.

natschuster wrote:Then, if my memory serves correctly it was Obama who got us into Syria to help his friends m, the Moslim Brotherhood people.
ISIL, the forces we were ostensibly fighting, were a Mossad founded and funded army, intending to collapse Syria, and take out Bashar Assad, so Israel could install a puppet. And even though we were fighting them, somehow all our weapons kept winding up in their hands, along with several billion taxpayer dollars cash.

There are billions of dollars spent every year buying American support for wars that accomplish the objectives of Israel. John McCain was, and John Bolton is, an agent of the Israeli government.

You are either dishonest, or a moron who has no business at all commenting on these affairs.

Blogger VD May 27, 2019 2:41 PM  

I addressing the belief that many people seem to ecpress that the USA jumps whenever Israel says to.

The USA doesn't jump every time. Obviously, it has yet to attack Iran despite the New Palestinians banging the war drums for the last 15 years. But it jumps often enough to anger many Americans.

Oh, and Kissinger was acting on behalf of the USA. He was The Sec of State.

The fact that he was Secretary of State does not mean he was acting on behalf of Americans or even the U.S. government.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 3:04 PM  

Snidely

So for the longest time we ignored Saddam. He invades Kuwait and we get excited in behalf of Israel. Maybe it was because if oil. Know even thought the US was fighting for Israel they wouldn't let Iststl take out Saddsm SCUD. And remember there was a whole coalition, in ludington Saudi Arabia. Were they fighting for Israrl, too? Funny that.

Now let me get straight what your saying about Syria. The USA is supporting both the moslim brotherhood and ISIL who are fighting each other on behalf of Israel. Well. I suppose that's possible.

Now which wars accomplish Isratks objectives? What are Israeks objectives anyway?

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 3:06 PM  

Vox

Kissinger certainly was mot acting on Israel's behalf.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 3:13 PM  

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Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 3:17 PM  

Snidely

Are you saying that there are deep hidden conspiracies that are so well hidden under multiple layers that no had access to but everyone knows about? We hear that all lot from anti-Semites.

Blogger Valley Forge Patriot May 27, 2019 3:54 PM  

#5 Oswald - "Sometimes I wonder if there really is a national two party system. The democratic party is surely a real party, but I wonder about the republican party. They claim to espouse certain things, but when it comes time to do the right thing, they never seem to deliver."

IMHO, the Republicans are to the Democrats as the Washington Generals are to the Harlem Globetrotters. They are the designated patsy, there to entertain, but never win.

Blogger Valley Forge Patriot May 27, 2019 4:03 PM  

Given that the "Conservative" Republican party is going the way of the Whigs, are there any suggestions for a new/replacement party? How about the Veteran's Party? Constitution Party? Others? https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 27, 2019 4:23 PM  

natschuster wrote:What are Israeks objectives anyway?


Keeping all their neighbors weak and embroiled in civil war, of course. What else?

natschuster wrote:Are you saying that there are deep hidden conspiracies that are so well hidden under multiple layers that no had access to but everyone knows about?
1) They are not hidden. You can't spend that kind of money and keep it hidden. But your compatriots in the news media keep the diversion going, and the constant, career-destroying charges of anti-Semitism deter most people from saying anything about it in public.
natschuster wrote:We hear that all lot from anti-Semites.
Viz.
Go ahead. When it comes to a choice between my people and Jews, I choose my own people.
When it comes to a choice between America and your people, who do you choose?

You have to make aliyah.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 4:34 PM  

Are you sure instability is s good thing for Israel? Fighting had a way of spilling over sometimes.

And these super complex conspiracies are known to everyone but well hidden by the media? That's kinda what I said. And if you follow the media closely you might detect a decided anti-Israel bias. They do things like focus on the Israeli response to violence, perpetrated by arabs, but not the actual violence. Criticizing Isrsrl is perfectly acceptable in many circles.

And I'm fine with you putting your people first. Are your people white people. By all means put white people first.

I keep on reading on this blog that Jews are really genetically white. So I'm your people.




Blogger Z MAlfoy May 27, 2019 4:43 PM  

"I keep on reading on this blog that Jews are really genetically white. So I'm your people."

I've been a faithful reader for about 2 years now, and have never seen the SDL makes such a claim. Nor have I seen any of the regular commenters make such a claim. The closest I can recall is the ongoing irritation with Neo-Palestinians who claim to white at one moment, and then claim to be a jew the next, depending on which virtue signal suits them best in the moment.

Perhaps this is what you saw, but you just didn't get the context of the complaints.

Blogger Brett baker May 27, 2019 4:52 PM  

GW2, and Syria. GW1 was about Bush and Scowcroft covering up their bungled orders to the ambassador to Iraq.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 4:57 PM  

I recall the owner said that he read a genetic study of mitochondria showed Jews are descended from Italians. Other people have said Jews are descended from the Khazars.

If a Swede converts to Judaism he is considered Jewish according to Judaism. So a person can be both White and Jewish.

Now this thing about neoPalestinian is not quite historically accurate. Before 1948 the term Palestinian meant Jewish inhabitants of Palestine. For example the Jerusalem post used to be called the Palestine Post. It wasnt until around 1964 the Arabs started calling themselves Pslestinians. So the real neo-Palestinians re the Arabs.

Blogger Up from the pond May 27, 2019 5:26 PM  

The latest cuckservative move is the attack on "identity politics."

Everybody has an identity. The system is saying you have no moral right to participate in politics if you exist.

Only they should be in charge. They are supposedly without this evil disqualifier of having an identity.

But they do have one. They do have a Tribe.

Only *their* identity should have political participation and power. All other identities should not, because that would be the bugaboo of "identity politics" which must be avoided at all costs.

You are only there to buy things and go out of existence (lose your identity).

Blogger Lovekraft May 27, 2019 5:52 PM  

The left has and will continue to be decimated on the debate level. Which explains the rising censorship. But even here, there's been several advancements - Nike suing Avenatti for a shakedown, Damore etc.

So is this an endurance game? The race to who can control the next generation; to wait out the impending crisis until the old guard dies and fades and the fresh young crop of Maoists take the reins?

side note: I wonder what a comic book would look like that historically looked at various Great Men over the ages in how they react to their era's version of the globalist/Deep State/technocrats etc. I know absolutely nothing, for example, about Andrew Jackson, but if I saw how he had to maneuver the snakes, I'd read it.

Blogger terrapin May 27, 2019 6:16 PM  

The Repulicans can not be trusted. The Democrats can be trusted to destroy Christian values (Old and New Testament) and destroy the USA

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 27, 2019 6:28 PM  

I keep on reading on this blog that Jews are really genetically white. So I'm your people.
Typical Jewish argument. You don't actually believe it, but you're hoping Whites will buy it and do wjat you want. FOAD.

Blogger anorganicbear May 27, 2019 6:31 PM  

#5 Oswald:Sometimes I wonder if there really is a national two party system. The democratic party is surely a real party, but I wonder about the republican party. They claim to espouse certain things, but when it comes time to do the right thing, they never seem to deliver.

The Republicans are the party of "No! You've got it all wrong! We're not racists! The dems are real racists! And we'll pass any left-leaning legislation you want to prove that we're not racists!" Or, as Valley Forge Patriot said, they are the Washington Generals to the left's Globetrotters.

Blogger Tars Tarkas May 27, 2019 6:39 PM  

natschuster wrote:Tars

I personally dont expect Americans to jump. I addressing the belief that many people seem to ecpress that the USA jumps whenever Israel says to. But things are complicated.


You have spun everything here in this thread. You view every situation where you did not get 100% of what you wanted as some sort of loss.

Then you try to pretend you don't know Jews control American media or that the press is somehow "against" Israel and an antisemetic conspiracy theory against Jews.

What do you think drives this insane antisemitism? If the Jews dindu nuffin, why do so many people get mad at Jews?

Blogger Door in the Hill May 27, 2019 6:42 PM  

A little off topic here, but this is the closest place I see right now.

The border wall GoFundMe has gotten a half mile built, with more to come.

https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

A less than complementary article about it: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/may/27/first-ever-private-border-wall-built-new-mexico/

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 6:47 PM  

Snidely

I'm trying to understand your position.


Tars

I don't recall saying anything about a loss. Ir not tetying what I want. In trying to correct historical inaccuracies, that's all. Hate me all you want. It just bothers me that people don't have their facts straight.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 7:04 PM  

Tars

I am aware of the fact that Jews are overepresented in the media. I dont know if that means control. It's just that they tend to be not very Jewish in their lives. They are Jewish by ancestry only. They don't show much if a bias towards Israel in their reporting. Hey, just read a news account and see.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 27, 2019 7:13 PM  

natschuster wrote:I'm trying to understand your position.
No, you're not. You're trying to get us to believe that what we can see with our own eyes is false, and the made-up story that you want us to believe is true. That Jews are an innocent party, and all the US meddling in the Middle East has been for our own purposes, and not for the interest of Israel.
This is so self-evidently false that it causes me to wonder if you're not just lying, but are actually neurotic enough to believe it.

BTW, H-A is both banned, and one of the most egregious anti-Semites here. Your reply to him made me laugh.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 27, 2019 7:14 PM  

natschuster wrote:I dont know if that means control. It's just that they tend to be not very Jewish in their lives. They are Jewish by ancestry only.
Don't forget their hatred of Christ and Christians, and by extentsion, Americans. That marks them as Jewish as well.

Blogger natschuster May 27, 2019 7:25 PM  

Snidely

I meant I was trying to understand your position on my status as white or not. I know you feel that Israel controls everything the USA does through deep multi layers conspiracies that nobody sees but everyone knows about.

I dint recall saying America always acts in Americas interest. Sometimes America does things like move the embassy. I said it is more complicated than the USA jumping whenever Israel says jump.

Blogger VFM #7634 May 27, 2019 7:26 PM  

"What do you think drives this insane antisemitism? If the Jews dindu nuffin, why do so many people get mad at Jews?"

Come to think of it, natschuster sounds like a boomer defending boomers.

Blogger Tars Tarkas May 27, 2019 7:44 PM  

natschuster wrote:Hate me all you want. It just bothers me that people don't have their facts straight.

This a gamma move meant to put me on the defensive. It is a dishonest debate tactic.

All these Jews who are racially Jewish but not religiously Jewish are every bit as Jewish as you are.

Are you dishonest or neurotic?

Blogger sammibandit May 27, 2019 7:46 PM  

Hey nutsucker, my late 1800s Greek to German philological dictionary says Palestine holds Palestinians. There is no entry for Jews or Jewish. Look on the archive of the blog for the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica and you'll find much the same in English. That's 3 language groups that said over 100 years ago that you're full of crap.

FWIW no self respecting jew puts the Khazar hypothesis over the Rhine hypothesis. Go back to your madrassa.

Blogger Crew May 27, 2019 8:55 PM  

@57: As a result President Trump can subcontract them to get the wall built!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 27, 2019 10:51 PM  

I meant I was trying to understand your position on my status as white or not. I know you feel that Israel controls everything the USA does through deep multi layers conspiracies that nobody sees but everyone knows about.
So, it's just garden-variety dishonesty then.

Blogger Richard Martel May 27, 2019 11:49 PM  

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the stupid party to stop being stupid.

Blogger OneWingedShark May 28, 2019 12:13 AM  

Oswald wrote:The republicans lost the house because they did not deliver on what they promised and therefore people did not show up to vote for them.

Sometimes I wonder if there really is a national two party system. The democratic party is surely a real party, but I wonder about the republican party. They claim to espouse certain things, but when it comes time to do the right thing, they never seem to deliver.

You're right — look at just how, when they had control of the Congress, the Republican party pushed for (1) government accountability; (2) fiscal responsibility; (3) ending the Affordable Care Act; (4) ending the National Firearms Act or Gun Control Act; (5) reforming the tax-code; (6) securing the border; (7) cracking down on illegal immigrants; (8) ending the infanticide known as abortion.

VFM #7634 wrote:"many if not most of them foreigners/paper Americans."

@marco moltisanti
The term "Fake American" triggers them as badly as "sodomite" does the gays, so of course I recommend it.

Hm, interesting; I'll keep that in mind.

natschuster wrote:Oh, and Kissinger was acting on behalf of the USA. He was The Sec of State.
Yes, and so was Hillary — but almost no-one here would question me if I asserted that she was at least seditious and quite probably provably Treasonous.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel May 28, 2019 1:03 AM  

@5

Sometimes I wonder if there really is a national two party system.


Absolutely there is-

You have one party in the Democrats that are guaranteed to do the wrong thing (pass Obamacare), and the Republicans,who almost always won't do the right thing (not repeal it in its entirety).

Blogger NO GOOGLES May 28, 2019 2:56 AM  

@63
"deep multi layers conspiracies that nobody sees"

It's called AIPAC. Pretty simple and out in the open. On top of that, a huge chunk of the influential military/intelligence bigwhigs have a massive amount of overlap between the US and Israel. Then there's the fact that a huge part of the ruling class in the USA is composed of Ivy leaguers - about 1/3rd of which are connected Jews and a big chunk of the rest are their useful goys.

Then you have the too big to fail banks that are almost entirely run/owned by Jews. The media and Hollywood are Jewish institutions. But in your world, this is all just a massive coincidence that a group that is less than 2% of the population of the USA just HAPPENS to have their hands on the levers of power in basically every major institution in the USA. You're the one who believes in conspiracy theory levels of coincidence - the rest of us just believe our eyes.

Blogger natschuster May 28, 2019 4:15 AM  

TARS

Racial Jews are Jewish I agree. The Jews I'm talking about aren't motivated by Judaism. Like the white people you call cucks.

One wing shark

K8ndsingrr certainly wSnt acting in Israels interest


SAMMIBANDIT

Does your dictionary say Palestinian means Arabs as the words is used now. Or does it mean people living in Palestine, which included Jews.

Blogger natschuster May 28, 2019 5:04 AM  

There was a Jewish Brigade that served with the British in North Africa in WWII. It was also known as the Palestine Brigade. So this neologism, neoPalestinian is not entirely accurate.

Blogger natschuster May 28, 2019 6:18 AM  

Wow. What a ride this thread had been. I guess I should apologize to the blog owner for hijacking his blog. Sorry, Vox. We started with discussing USA Israel relations, and wound up with nane calling. Anyway, its been fun guys. I've got to get to work now.

Blogger VD May 28, 2019 6:25 AM  

I keep on reading on this blog that Jews are really genetically white. So I'm your people.

No, you're not. Did you forget that you're Chosen by your Father the Devil?

Blogger VD May 28, 2019 6:28 AM  

Before 1948 the term Palestinian meant Jewish inhabitants of Palestine.

You're lying. It meant "inhabitants of Palestine", more than 95 percent of whom were not Jewish.

Blogger natschuster May 28, 2019 6:35 AM  

Vox

I meant genetically. I understand you to believe that the primary consideration when ordering a society is race. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

Using neopalestinian ti refer to Jews specifically is not quite historically accurate. Palestinian meant inhabitants of Palestine both Jews and Arabs but as per the examples cited t
It usually was used to refer to Jews. Palestinian as referring to group of Arabs specifically started un 1964 our thereabouts. So neopalestnian.more accurately reflects arabs.

Blogger VD May 28, 2019 6:45 AM  

I understand you to believe that the primary consideration when ordering a society is race. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

You are completely mistaken. Race is far too broad a category to order a society. Race is a superset of nation.

Palestinian meant inhabitants of Palestine both Jews and Arabs but as per the examples cited It usually was used to refer to Jews

That is totally false. A Palestinian was usually a non-Jew, under both the Ottomans and the British. The very name even refers to the non-Hebrew historical nation of Philistine. Please understand that no one here falls for your fake history, especially not a student of Martin van Creveld.

Blogger VD May 28, 2019 6:57 AM  

You're almost ludicrously off-topic, natschuster. Go lie about your narcissistic self-obsessions someplace else.

Blogger CarpeOro May 28, 2019 9:03 AM  

"I didn't leave the Democratic party, they left me." Ronald Reagan

Same goes for me and the Republicans. Sadly, Democrats haven't turned things around since Reagan went, they have gotten worse. Definitely opportunity for a nationalist party here.

Blogger xevious2030 May 28, 2019 10:26 AM  

No Deal is probably on a list of contingencies, as a matter of intensity they may face. Long term, the goal would be remain while they attempt to destroy the nations of Europe. Which would mean courses of action to bring the UK back into the EU. The path of least resistance would be to put economic pressures, hard times, to try and get the British to beg to be let back in. A higher path of resistance would be to flood the UK until the demographic was changed enough for at least a 51% remain (return) vote. And an even higher path of resistance would be, if the EU were on the verge of a dissolve path, to collapse the EU within so badly that it begs to be brought back in, and then refuse to allow them in, turning the hidden screws so tightly, that everyone else backs off leaving for sheer terror of failure.

Which is why Brexit is first and foremost today, but upon success, shifting to the secondary purpose of a Ukip as primary, removing Islam and the non-British (a good chunk of London), and their enablers, in a very serious manner, becomes fundamental, if there is to be a future for the British.

Staying in is a trap. Getting out is a bigger trap. Better to escape and be prepared so as to obliterate the bigger trap and beat all the resulting dead horses to oblivion. If they let you out, there will be contingencies in place to follow a script. This will require people, planning, communication, money. Things that will be able to be anticipated, monitored, tracked beforehand (burns and connecting burn fuses will already be in place, so after the exit will be too late to begin collections and planning against them). Things that will provide a picture of networks, nodes, paths, things which can be allowed to move and then be outed, crushed, be brought to be counterproductive by careful contaminating of the chemistry or switched/mislabeled substitution. In other words, changing their plans and contingencies from ones of intention and success for the globalists, to those of chains of detriment to the globalists. Good, competent little gremlins wrecking the Wings Over the World, and to interrupt the fanciful narrative of the destruction of The Chief and the lie they sell of a magical future.

Blogger xevious2030 May 28, 2019 12:03 PM  

Correction, "to collapse the UK within so badly that it begs"

Blogger Hieroglyph May 28, 2019 9:39 PM  

Somebody, whose name I temporarily forget, once said something about SJW's always doubling down. It appears this contagion has reached Tory party circles, too. Well, I for one applaud this career-ending bravery. It's almost admirable, standing up for their beliefs, in the full knowledge that they, and the vast majority of their party, will lose their seats at the next GE. I say admirable, but suicidal is the better word.

My guess it that the strategy is now to keep having referenda until the people vote correctly. Then some wiffle waffle about 'will of the people'. Bold strategy, Cotton.

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